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Title: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jizzlobber on Dec 09, 2008, 01:42 PM
From time to time everyone hears about "UFO"'s and "Extra terrestrial beings...its something no one can avoid, even just hearing or reading stories about them.

I , for one am just curious to find out one way or the other what this answer is...is it Yes, they exist , or No they dont. Whitch is why i sometimes from time to time get caught by an article that just seems to spark too much debate, too many claims of hoax or whatever..

This , is one of thoses cases...in 3 weeks i went from believing it might be true..then i thought it might be a hoax due to reading the internet ...now im back to reserved belief that this might have actually been a real occurance...its just too ... i wont say believable..but its too...i dunno, take a look.

DR REED ALIEN ENCOUNTER/CAPTURE. OCT 15, 1996.

WWW.ODISEALINK.COM


PART 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWFDm6Ij8dQ

PART 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFnEc2pCR8U

PART 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRQhUrERmY

PART 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4xqYTaFeo

PART 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWFDm6Ij8dQ

PART 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYpNuPnY-0I

PART 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aM8zHdJZrc

PART 8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8iLI1ofMeM&feature=user

PART 9:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNg1V2_WFhc

PART 10:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxlPKlfxnbk

PART11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j31_j2op_mc...feature=related

PART 12( A ) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ7b0C235ts...feature=related

PART 12( B ) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsN0X_7dsng...feature=related

PART 14:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1liFTcpFKBM...feature=related

PART 15:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5p2kWmaABg...feature=related

PART 16:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glmf5wIk_Hs...feature=related

PART 17:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f387GhDXw3o...feature=related

PART 18:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY_YtbbPvZc...feature=related

PART 19:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpeYnyJPpfE


PART 20: FROM CONTACTOCTOBER1996
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=96puBVOrBEk


PART 21: FROM CONTACTOCTOBER1996
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=gP-0WnczDKI
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NANOTECHNOLOGIC ANALYSIS OF THE LINK ARTIFACT

Authors in which this study was based on: Herb Goronkin, Paul Von Allmen, Raymond K. Tsui, and Theodore X. Zhu, NASA, AMES Institute.

1. INTRODUCTION

The recent introduction of the Link artifact to all venues of information has demanded an analysis and a scientific explanation of its properties and capabilities, such as tele-transportation. Due to the fact that this artifact possesses technological functions that go way beyond our scientific advances, its analysis should be focused towards the most advanced technology in the world: Nanotechnology. Before I begin this analysis, I will first exhibit the physical properties of the Link artifact.

2. PHYSICAL PROPERTIES

Measurements

Length 4 Inches
Wide 3 ? Inches
Thickness 3/16 Inches

Material

Silicon Polymer
Beryllium
Aluminum
Magnesium
Copper
Zinc
Bismuth
Gold
Other unknown materials

Components

One-piece, silver-colored metal cuff composed of similar thin membranes in the form of layers individually separated from each other. Some measuring as thin as 3 microns in thickness, with a total of 18 layers forming the metallic thickness of the Link. It has three needles of different lengths; each is anchored on three emerald spherically shaped bases. A membrane of extremely small carbon tubes (nanotubes) dresses the inside of the link.

This data was provided by the University of Osaka, Japan (year 2000)

3. NANOTECHNOLOGICAL ANALYSIS

3.1 Exterior Aspects:
Black membrane, axial outlined that is united by knots when crossing each other. Uniform surface, axial finish on the inferior metallic borders, exposing connection terminals to induce semiconductors. The bulk of the membrane is less than 4 microns, making this the best measurement for this type of manufacturing developed under the ?Chemical Steam? technique at the Science Academy in China in 1996.

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" You all will google this and find a couple of sites yelling 'Hoax'. Do not be fooled by their attempts to misdirect and convince you of the solid foundations concerning this mans story. Ufowatchdog is also known as ufowatchFRAUD - it is their goal to debunk any, and every, ufo encounter or alien encounter backed with solid factual evidence and reason. When you have multiple witnesses testifying in favor of one man whos credentials have been wiped clean, you have to ask yourself why is this man going through so much resistance if this is supposedly all fake.
The answer to this question is simple.
Its not fake. ITS REAL. Thats is why. "
-Odisealinker, October 18th, 2008-
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jacob on Dec 09, 2008, 02:52 PM
wow, I have something to do when I get home...
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: bright lights, big city on Dec 09, 2008, 02:53 PM
I BELIEVE!
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: lostpilot on Dec 09, 2008, 07:13 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Dec 09, 2008, 02:53 PM
I BELIEVE!
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: deftonekid on Dec 09, 2008, 08:16 PM
For me "UFO"'s and "Extra terrestrial shit are like god in the way that I'm gonna believe in that just when I can see them with my own eyes, in front of me, that's the only way, so yeah I don't believe in god, chupacabras, "UFO"'s or any Extra terrestrial being.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: devlin on Dec 09, 2008, 08:28 PM
Quote from: deftonekid on Dec 09, 2008, 08:16 PM
For me "UFO"'s and "Extra terrestrial shit are like god in the way that I'm gonna believe in that just when I can see them with my own eyes, in front of me, that's the only way, so yeah I don't believe in god, chupacabras, "UFO"'s or any Extra terrestrial being.

you took the words right out of my mouth...musta been when you were kissing me. sorry about that last part i randomly break into meatloaf songs from time to time.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: deftonekid on Dec 09, 2008, 08:50 PM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 09, 2008, 08:28 PM
you took the words right out of my mouth...musta been when you were kissing me. sorry about that last part i randomly break into meatloaf songs from time to time.
haha ok
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: defTHE1s on Dec 09, 2008, 10:18 PM
I believe in chupacabras... once one of these horrible creatures ate my goat!!!!










LOL..... i really wanted to say that.... i'm like "stressed" this couple of hours.. you know... many time wasted here.... loneliness is soooooo boring.....
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jizzlobber on Dec 10, 2008, 09:47 AM
Quote from: deftonekid on Dec 09, 2008, 08:16 PM
For me "UFO"'s and "Extra terrestrial shit are like god in the way that I'm gonna believe in that just when I can see them with my own eyes, in front of me, that's the only way, so yeah I don't believe in god, chupacabras, "UFO"'s or any Extra terrestrial being.

The Vatican released a statement in feb 2008 saying to "Accept Extra terrestrial life as a PART of Gods creation"

this seems like a very convinient statement to ensure peoples beliefs arent challenged. i also think they released this statement for a purpose. something is going on lately. with EVERYTHING...
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jacob on Dec 10, 2008, 10:26 AM
of course they exist, how can you be dense as to say we are completely alone in the universe? they might not have made contact with us yet, but they wlll.... they will...
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 12:25 PM
i think that it is a very good possiblity that there is more life out in the universe. but its also possible that earth and the life created on it was a one in a billion random chain of events. and it might make us the only life in the universe. i'm just saying that until there is undeniable proof that i can see/touch/hear i wont really believe that it does exist. hardly a dense opinion...in my opinion :)
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jacob on Dec 10, 2008, 12:38 PM
well, it's much more likely that there is life on other planets than there not being anything at all. sure, we might be the only species who has evolved this far. maybe the only life out there are bacteria. but considering we found water on mars chances are pretty big there is water on many other planets. and at least a few of those will probably have the right atmosphere and climate to support some kind of lifeform.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jizzlobber on Dec 10, 2008, 12:52 PM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 12:25 PM
i think that it is a very good possiblity that there is more life out in the universe. but its also possible that earth and the life created on it was a one in a billion random chain of events. and it might make us the only life in the universe. i'm just saying that until there is undeniable proof that i can see/touch/hear i wont really believe that it does exist. hardly a dense opinion...in my opinion :)

well..im sure it CAN be proved, im sure cold hard proof exists, its just hasnt been presented to you in a way that makes you adjust your lifestyle to fit this proof into it..probably because, right now we dont NEED to know if ET life is fact yet..

if anything , i think that life , can have differing circumstances to sustain..just like a fish can't survive on land, but can in water..humans cant survive in water, but can on land..ET's can probably survive in vastly different atmospheres, regardless of the air and water content.

arguing that earths properties are the only life sustaining properties in the universe, does not convince me that life cant exist on other planets.

take a look at this video ..its called "The Hubble Deep Field: The Most Important Image Ever Taken"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-cXVWFw

and it demonstarates the furthest mankind has EVER seen into space...they zoomed into space through the hubble for 11 days...it won a prize for "Image of the century"

after you watch it, you will have no doubt, theres is TONS of life out there...millions and millions of civilizations...there HAS to be.

question is...are they engaging earth? are they inhabiting earth?
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 01:11 PM
i don't deny thats there is life out there. but your defense of its so vast there MUST BE. is not convincing at all. i have seen those photos before the universe is mindblowingly huge and the possibilty of other life forms of f of earth is very real. i am more or less waiting for proof to show whether or not its out there. which may not happen for 50 years after i die.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jacob on Dec 10, 2008, 01:14 PM
yeah, I'm not even saying the conditions have to be exactly like on earth to support life. but knowing that there most likely are planets pretty similar to ours is a first step to realizing there is life out there, that's my point.

I will check out that video now.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: deftonekid on Dec 10, 2008, 11:07 PM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 12:25 PM
i'm just saying that until there is undeniable proof that i can see/touch/hear i wont really believe that it does exist. hardly a dense opinion...in my opinion :)
+1
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: sharingbuns on Dec 21, 2008, 10:38 PM
the universe is an infinite space, with infinite planets and stars. i'm no math professor here, but to me that says infinite possibilities for planets capable of supporting life. i think it's pretty stupid to think that earth is the only planet in the entire universe capable of supporting life. we're not that special.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Dec 22, 2008, 12:43 AM
PROJECT BLUEBEAM

look it up
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Dec 22, 2008, 07:08 AM
Quote from: sharingbuns on Dec 21, 2008, 10:38 PM
the universe is an infinite space, with infinite planets and stars. i'm no math professor here, but to me that says infinite possibilities for planets capable of supporting life. i think it's pretty stupid to think that earth is the only planet in the entire universe capable of supporting life. we're not that special.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jizzlobber on Dec 22, 2008, 08:19 AM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 01:11 PM
i am more or less waiting for proof to show whether or not its out there. which may not happen for 50 years after i die.

My theory, is that the people who possess actual hard proof...will only divulge it on an absolute "need to know" basis.

If we dont really need to know..it stays covered..if they possess information that could help us when we NEED to know..they will probably reveal a lot
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: devlin on Dec 22, 2008, 12:07 PM
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 22, 2008, 08:19 AM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 01:11 PM
i am more or less waiting for proof to show whether or not its out there. which may not happen for 50 years after i die.

My theory, is that the people who possess actual hard proof...will only divulge it on an absolute "need to know" basis.

If we dont really need to know..it stays covered..if they possess information that could help us when we NEED to know..they will probably reveal a lot

that doesn't make sense. why would "they" be covering up what would probably go down as the greatest scientific discovery of all time? i can't think of any motive for a cover up. and short of "mars attacks" coming true what would qualify as need to know?
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Dec 22, 2008, 04:02 PM
agreed
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Variable on Dec 23, 2008, 07:11 AM
Wana know how I know this is fake?  On the materials listed for the link artifact. " Bismuth" Thats pepto Bismol you suckas.

(http://www.nmafaculty.org/files/images/Products/pepto_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jizzlobber on Dec 23, 2008, 08:14 AM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 22, 2008, 12:07 PM
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 22, 2008, 08:19 AM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 01:11 PM
i am more or less waiting for proof to show whether or not its out there. which may not happen for 50 years after i die.

My theory, is that the people who possess actual hard proof...will only divulge it on an absolute "need to know" basis.

If we dont really need to know..it stays covered..if they possess information that could help us when we NEED to know..they will probably reveal a lot

that doesn't make sense. why would "they" be covering up what would probably go down as the greatest scientific discovery of all time? i can't think of any motive for a cover up. and short of "mars attacks" coming true what would qualify as need to know?

Well there isnt any one single motive...its collective motives...the reason why i say that is because of all the religious debaucle that might go down, and then there's re-evaluating the education system , like how do you include the greatest scientific discovery of all time into educational syllabus' in a way that doesnt contradict the current  theories and explanations. How do you expalin what type of life exists outside earths atmosphere..you cant really coz we dont know what anything that exists off earth is called..

Sometimes, things are just better kept to yourself until you know exactly how to present what you know without confusing religious systems and scientific communities and such. its just my opinion man.

IF there is absolute hard proof in a file cabinet somewhere, i think the higher powers dont think we need to know about it, if THEY know about it, its fine, but any type of revelation about alien life will have major consequences..just consider the chain of events from that point on...things will become fucked up
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: devlin on Dec 23, 2008, 12:12 PM
i don't see it having any negative effects on the education system. its just one more thing to teach "we used to think this, and know we know that". and i would have agreed with the religious aspect a while ago but don't worry the church has already begun their back peddling just in case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-566580/Heavens-God-created-life-planets-says-Vatican.html
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: lostpilot on Dec 23, 2008, 12:19 PM
I hate Vatican.
I hate Christianity.
I hate every religion that frames belief into a form of money, control and food for masses.

All they tell you is a lie.
Make up your own beliefs.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Dec 25, 2008, 05:13 AM
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/

The ultimate UFO forum. Huge thread on the Reed case in there.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: sharingbuns on Dec 31, 2008, 02:04 AM
fucking stargazers
why don't you focus on something in the real world
like getting a job at wendys and saving for seven months for the new world of war expansion
or eating my asshole with mustard and relish
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: bright lights, big city on Dec 31, 2008, 05:12 AM
you mean the world of warcraft expansion?
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Jizzlobber on Dec 31, 2008, 07:20 AM
Quote from: sharingbuns on Dec 31, 2008, 02:04 AM
fucking stargazers
why don't you focus on something in the real world
like getting a job at wendys and saving for seven months for the new world of war expansion
or eating my asshole with mustard and relish

if you're gonna try make a point of mocking people, do it correctly.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: downtownpony on Dec 31, 2008, 05:46 PM
Dr. Steven Greer made me believe. I listened to one of his radio interviews than read his book. Its really good. I think u can pay like a thousand dollars to take a trip with him and a group of people, and go to the a desert in Arizona and experience some first hand e.t. sightings, or even communication.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: devlin on Dec 31, 2008, 07:46 PM
give me a thousand bucks and i can take you out into the desert and "say sorry folks i guess they were feeling a bit shy today. you can give me more money and come out tomorrow, maybe they'll be more talkative then"
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: tarkil on Jan 01, 2009, 05:13 AM
Quote from: downtownpony on Dec 31, 2008, 05:46 PM
u can pay like a thousand dollars to take a trip with him and a group of people, and go to the a desert in Arizona and experience some first hand e.t. sightings, or even communication.

lolz
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Nebontha on Jan 01, 2009, 04:17 PM
Maybe the only reason we're still alive and relatively sane is because some higher ups are withholding information that could potentially bring about destructive chaos.  Think about it.  Why else would Area 51 workers be so sketchy about the alien ship/bodies they found?  To this day they still deny what happened.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: downtownpony on Jan 02, 2009, 05:12 AM
Iv been to Roswell before. That place is seriously lame.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Variable on Jan 02, 2009, 06:05 PM
Quote from: tarkil on Jan 01, 2009, 05:13 AM
Quote from: downtownpony on Dec 31, 2008, 05:46 PM
u can pay like a thousand dollars to take a trip with him and a group of people, and go to the a desert in Arizona and experience some first hand e.t. sightings, or even communication.

lolz
yeah exactly I was almost thinking about taking some of this serious until I saw that.

Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 23, 2008, 08:14 AM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 22, 2008, 12:07 PM
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 22, 2008, 08:19 AM
Quote from: devlin on Dec 10, 2008, 01:11 PM
i am more or less waiting for proof to show whether or not its out there. which may not happen for 50 years after i die.

My theory, is that the people who possess actual hard proof...will only divulge it on an absolute "need to know" basis.

If we dont really need to know..it stays covered..if they possess information that could help us when we NEED to know..they will probably reveal a lot

that doesn't make sense. why would "they" be covering up what would probably go down as the greatest scientific discovery of all time? i can't think of any motive for a cover up. and short of "mars attacks" coming true what would qualify as need to know?

Well there isnt any one single motive...its collective motives...the reason why i say that is because of all the religious debaucle that might go down, and then there's re-evaluating the education system , like how do you include the greatest scientific discovery of all time into educational syllabus' in a way that doesnt contradict the current  theories and explanations. How do you expalin what type of life exists outside earths atmosphere..you cant really coz we dont know what anything that exists off earth is called..

Sometimes, things are just better kept to yourself until you know exactly how to present what you know without confusing religious systems and scientific communities and such. its just my opinion man.

IF there is absolute hard proof in a file cabinet somewhere, i think the higher powers dont think we need to know about it, if THEY know about it, its fine, but any type of revelation about alien life will have major consequences..just consider the chain of events from that point on...things will become fucked up
I'm sorry but I totally disagree with you here.  I don't think any of those are good motives.  Humans have made a told of scientific discoveries that totally changed the way we think about liife.  It never caused mass chaos before.  The world being flat, the sun circulating around the earth, spontaneous generation ect ect.  All old beliefs that were proven wrong.  I don't think it ruined any civilizations or anything. 

and as far as the religious aspects go?  Not even.  It is just one more thing to spin.  One of the things about most of the major world religions today is that they are all faith based. If something can't be explained, you just have to have faith.  If you start to doubt, your faith is being tested.  Will you pass the test?  It is a very powerful circle of thinking that they bring you into.  UFOs would not rock it.
Quote from: downtownpony on Jan 02, 2009, 05:12 AM
Iv been to Roswell before. That place is seriously lame.
I lived in Roswell for a year when I went to New Mexico Military Institute.  Roswell if for sure lame as fuck.  The UFO museum was pretty dam disappointing too.  But If for some reason any of you make it that way and stop buy the UFO museum.  It is A LOT cooler if you actually pull some of the people who work there aside and ask questions.  These people are die hards, and they have a ton of knowledge.  It's pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: downtownpony on Jan 03, 2009, 03:45 PM
good advice. I never plan on willingly going there again though. Those kinds of places are really depressing to me. The whole city reminded me of a Goodwill store.
Title: Re: Stiring the pot of 'Extra Terrestrial' debate.
Post by: Variable on Jan 03, 2009, 05:18 PM


Yeah Roswell, NM is no place to purposely go to.  I lived in Albuquerque, NM and got bored and sent myself to military school.  Thats the only reason I was there.