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Title: Psychedelics
Post by: Fireal1222 on Dec 05, 2009, 06:06 PM
well, it's snowing here in Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania, for the first time of the season. i woke up and looked out the window, and i got that snowday feeling inside. i decided to eat some shrooms about an hour ago, since i really enjoy tripping in a snowy environment. i am enjoying a cup of tea right now and the shrooms are def. starting to kick in. i am about to hang out with some friends and enjoy this beautiful snow day.

im just wondering how many of you guys have done psychedelics, and if so, which ones. and do you have any good stories from the time u did it.

i've been doing alot of reading and researching online about DMT. i would never do DMT, since its supposed to be the psychedelic of all psychdelics. but i was wondering if u guys ever tried it, or any other psychedelics.

enjoy your day.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: black coffee on Dec 05, 2009, 06:36 PM
So I was eating Hawaiian mushrooms with a friend. We were hanging out at this river, and suddenly I felt like in an Indiana Jones movie. There were snakes, the ground felt like it was moving ( probably quicksand ) so we decided to go to our bicycles and ride somewhere. We were following the bike path, and there was a tree in our way. We stopped immediately and sat down. We really didn't know what to do, so I called a friend ( don't tell me how I made it., the mobile phone screen was so bright and I couldn't concentrate on this situation at all ). He woke up from the call and I flamed him big time. A few days later he told me he couldn't imagine it was me, because my voice sounded so weird. Well, somehow we made it past that tree, and headed to my place. Obviously we were talking crazy stuff all the time, such as "Are you with me? I'm scared" , "I'm scared too, are you with me as well?" To imagine this correctly, we were laughing as well. Ever told someone you were scared, and laughed at the same time?
We were riding past some guy, and he must've heard us already, making weird sounds and laughing. He joined our conversation, and it was REALLY weird. Some stranger talking to us while we were on shrooms, it was hard to deal with that situation. I couldn't stop laughing, and he told us stuff like "you guys smoked some really good weed", and I commentated on this with even more laughing towards my friend. It was like, I could hear this guy, but not talk to him in person. After we managed this situation, we finally got to my place. We smoked some weed, trying desperately to come down, but it didn't help. Smoking itself was rather disgusting, being on mushrooms it felt like the wrong thing to do. So we were watching some old soccer match, Germany-Italy from the World Championships in 1970. Watching this felt really weird. We were looking past players actions all the time, some players almost seemed lazy, everyone was doing their job, but didn't do more than necessary. Man I was happy when it ended, but it was one hell of a time as well.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 05, 2009, 08:05 PM
i don't really have any full blown out stories...i mean, i just felt incredible.

PCP is flat out the best thing i've ever done. Imagine hearing battle-axe for the first time(on PCP.)

and DMT is otherworldly for the 10 minutes it lasts. If you ever do smoke it, do it in a dark room with lots of lights.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: some random fag on Dec 05, 2009, 09:01 PM
I actually smoked DMT a few weeks ago when I was up in vermont for umphreys.  Damn hippies.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: lostpilot on Dec 05, 2009, 09:38 PM
To be honest I am actually quite a fan of psychedelics, and I don't really give a shit about all the anti-drug people saying "that shit fries your brain". French fries fry your brain. Anyway.

I've been shrooming numerous times, most of them absolutely breathtaking (I always try to combine a perfect set and setting, music included.. Imagine bands like Sigur Ros on shrooms, oh man, absolutely epic). I'm not sure if it is worth mentioning of all the interesting experiences (*laughs a little remembering two things - A) how I was trying to do anything not to get swallowed by the ground; B) getting stuck in various time warps with my friends, those things are crazy. Unbelievable how you can experience two hours worth of time in twenty minutes), but generally I had pretty much no bad experiences with this amazing god given substance.

Then again, I've tried various seeds, and the only two worth mentioning is a morning glory trip (actually, pre trip, when I broke my tooth - yes, we are deuchebags and we were just eating the whole thing up) and my personally devastating yet ecstatic hawaiian baby woodrose trip (I was just lying on my bed for about twelve hours with music, unable to stand up or do anything at all, delirious, falling in and out a waking dream). Not looking forward to trying any more of those.

Then again, haven't tripped for about a year or even more now, quite anxious to get something soon. I'm probably gonna get something like acid, hmhm, been doing a lot of research on that. Also, tonight I had a dream of someone spilling DXM into my drink and I died during tripping. Crazy shit.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: Fireal1222 on Dec 05, 2009, 10:43 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 05, 2009, 08:05 PM
i don't really have any full blown out stories...i mean, i just felt incredible.

PCP is flat out the best thing i've ever done. Imagine hearing battle-axe for the first time(on PCP.)

and DMT is otherworldly for the 10 minutes it lasts. If you ever do smoke it, do it in a dark room with lots of lights.

Quote from: some random fag on Dec 05, 2009, 09:01 PM
I actually smoked DMT a few weeks ago when I was up in vermont for umphreys.  Damn hippies.


try and explain the dmt stories in detail. i know its difficult. but try.

Quote from: black coffee on Dec 05, 2009, 06:36 PM
So I was eating Hawaiian mushrooms with a friend. We were hanging out at this river, and suddenly I felt like in an Indiana Jones movie. There were snakes, the ground felt like it was moving ( probably quicksand ) so we decided to go to our bicycles and ride somewhere. We were following the bike path, and there was a tree in our way. We stopped immediately and sat down. We really didn't know what to do, so I called a friend ( don't tell me how I made it., the mobile phone screen was so bright and I couldn't concentrate on this situation at all ). He woke up from the call and I flamed him big time. A few days later he told me he couldn't imagine it was me, because my voice sounded so weird. Well, somehow we made it past that tree, and headed to my place. Obviously we were talking crazy stuff all the time, such as "Are you with me? I'm scared" , "I'm scared too, are you with me as well?" To imagine this correctly, we were laughing as well. Ever told someone you were scared, and laughed at the same time?
We were riding past some guy, and he must've heard us already, making weird sounds and laughing. He joined our conversation, and it was REALLY weird. Some stranger talking to us while we were on shrooms, it was hard to deal with that situation. I couldn't stop laughing, and he told us stuff like "you guys smoked some really good weed", and I commentated on this with even more laughing towards my friend. It was like, I could hear this guy, but not talk to him in person. After we managed this situation, we finally got to my place. We smoked some weed, trying desperately to come down, but it didn't help. Smoking itself was rather disgusting, being on mushrooms it felt like the wrong thing to do. So we were watching some old soccer match, Germany-Italy from the World Championships in 1970. Watching this felt really weird. We were looking past players actions all the time, some players almost seemed lazy, everyone was doing their job, but didn't do more than necessary. Man I was happy when it ended, but it was one hell of a time as well.


thats how shroom experiences can wind up. you are scared most of the time, but then when you are coming down you realize it was fun all along.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 05, 2009, 11:30 PM
Well...all i can really say about it was we sat in a circle..Passed around the little crack bowl or w/e..it was kinda like, you took a hit...hold it in as long as you can, and then lay back...and it kinda just takes over you immediately.  hazy vision, serious euphoria the typical psychedelic trip. If it's good DMT, the trip is stronger (to me) than acid. kinda more reminiscent of a DXM trip, just shorter and much more intense. It's not like you really hallucinate, it's like you go into your own little world and stay there. It seems alot longer than it really is. It actually seems like an eternity, but after it wears off it's like "did that just happen?"

That's about all i can really say about DMT. It's definitely something you have to try for yourself.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: Nailec on Dec 06, 2009, 01:57 AM
all i can say. dont ever do drugs when youre in a bad mood. its just amplifies it.

probablly that is why you got scared on mushrooms.

people i know had a long trip of happinies when on shrooms. they felt close to nature and wanted to explore everything around them.

Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: stoneFeD on Dec 06, 2009, 04:33 AM
personally i love psycs. they're my fav to do more than drink but i limit my use , i feel its better that way but the last acid trip i had was about 3 or 4 months ago and me and a buddy who got ahold of them wanted to go and be outside to trip it was about 7PM the sun was going down and there wasnt much to do on acid during the night but we felt the urge to be outside in the cool air and what have  you. so we went to the university park and trails. these trails are paved so we both took our longboards and skated the whole trail. needless to say when we got back to my car we were full on tripping i could not drive to save our lives so my buddy pulled the old winston wolf scene out of pulp fiction and acted accordingly . being so he took my keys and started to drive home....a while from where we were at. that was when the real trip started haha. we headed west going toward his house, unknowingly there were three k-9 units heading north on an on-coming intersection we had the protected left signal and as we came to the int. these three units come  blaring with sirens through the intersection while were in mid turn going south. needless to say again that my buddy handled it well and that is an understatement lol. we made it home safely with no injury or carnage left in our wake. and must i say we were driving my car that is a Honda the same make as winston wolfs NSX in pulp fiction thus far us living a small part in pulp fiction...on acid..

p.s at his house we relived the movie on dvd hahaha
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: stoneFeD on Dec 07, 2009, 01:09 AM
watch this doc ellis shit hahaha

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14#)
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: _Fireal_ on Dec 08, 2009, 05:23 AM
lostpilot, it's interesting you bring up morning glory seeds, because I happen to have access to tons of them.  From my garden.

I wouldn't take them, but it intrigued me enough to research it.  I didn't know they contained a cousin to LSD.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: lostpilot on Dec 08, 2009, 10:25 AM
Quote from: _Fireal_ on Dec 08, 2009, 05:23 AM
lostpilot, it's interesting you bring up morning glory seeds, because I happen to have access to tons of them.  From my garden.

I wouldn't take them, but it intrigued me enough to research it.  I didn't know they contained a cousin to LSD.

I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.
The only way to trip safely with these damn seeds are to make an extract. Google it, if you don't want to suffer nausea. And please be sure to make a perfect set and setting (google if you're not sure what that is).
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: Penicks on Dec 08, 2009, 07:15 PM
you have to fucking watch out with psychedelics

not only does it make you a bonafide hippie, it can fuck you the fuck up for good

i met a guy this weekend who had an lsd trip one too many when he was 17 and he kind of stayed in it

wierdest guy i've ever met

we were watching a dire straits concert and suddenly he said "man, the lead singer's face has to transform"

what the fuck

so my friend, playing along, said "yeah man, like transformers!"

to which he replied "nah, more like play-doh"

and he was dead serious.

so yeah.

just sayin'

Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 08:40 PM
if you ever do DXM trips, try not to do it a whole lot cause it definitely fucks your thought process up from long term use.(take me as a perfect example.) i feel like i may be developing schizotypal behavior now-a-days as a result of my extended drug use in general.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: lostpilot on Dec 08, 2009, 10:26 PM
yeah, all drugs and all in all everything fucks with your body, but I am one of those conscious-of-the-damage-and-risks person.
I always measure the risk I'm taking, trying to choose an almost perfect set and setting etc.
Cause you know, I don't want to freak out or damage my body to a certain point where I cannot restore the goods..
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 11:40 PM
i had alot of shitty experiences making my highs/trips kinda almost not worth it.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: Fireal1222 on Dec 09, 2009, 12:07 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 08:40 PM
if you ever do DXM trips, try not to do it a whole lot cause it definitely fucks your thought process up from long term use.(take me as a perfect example.) i feel like i may be developing schizotypal behavior now-a-days as a result of my extended drug use in general.



i highly recommend that nobody use DXM. you are at a higher risk of wrecking your liver when you mess with DXM. miseducated kids think dxm is great, when in fact, people are much more safe when you eat a small dose of mushrooms, rather than downing bottles of robotussin.

if you are thinking about trying dxm, or doing it. dont. their are far too many health risks involved for a dirty trip.

i recommend more people educate themselves before just putting random things into their body, or even worse, over the counter medications.


www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org) is a non-biased website with great information on psychedelics
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 09, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Dec 09, 2009, 12:07 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 08:40 PM
if you ever do DXM trips, try not to do it a whole lot cause it definitely fucks your thought process up from long term use.(take me as a perfect example.) i feel like i may be developing schizotypal behavior now-a-days as a result of my extended drug use in general.



i highly recommend that nobody use DXM. you are at a higher risk of wrecking your liver when you mess with DXM. miseducated kids think dxm is great, when in fact, people are much more safe when you eat a small dose of mushrooms, rather than downing bottles of robotussin.

if you are thinking about trying dxm, or doing it. dont. their are far too many health risks involved for a dirty trip.

i recommend more people educate themselves before just putting random things into their body, or even worse, over the counter medications.


www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org) is a non-biased website with great information on psychedelics

That certainly came off pretty elitish considering you're referring to me as a "Miseducated kid", as if you're better than me or something because you do "safer drugs." I know and always have known full well the risks of anything I have put into my body. However I do not suffer from paranoia about dying or becoming sick/messing up my brain like 99% of people do. I do not let that fear restrain me from having fun, because if i'm having fun than that's the most important thing to me. Being worried about the consequences causes you to take fewer risks, leveling out to many missed out experiences that could have possibly given you insight on life in general, or changed your perception of thinking. The thought of being safe is just a noose around the human neck, and it binds everyone together in a big ball of conformity. And by the way, after doing all the drugs I've done, I actually feel I've come out smarter and more educated in a different form(life), while i've forgotten everything I was taught growing up(formal education, what i 'believed' was right/wrong as a result of other people's opinions becoming my own, and essentially became myself.)

I'm not saying be a fucking drug hound like I was, but jesus christ, live a little. If God worried about the consequences of creating earth and humans, well no one can even fathom what kind of dilemma he'd be in. Drugs will only fuck you up if your a weak minded person, with no will, or personal strength and belief in yourself. Pretty much, if you LET them ruin your mind, it will. If you take it as it comes and just quit complicating things then everything will pan out fine. I do believe in Karma, and the fact that no matter what you believe at the moment, everything comes out even in the end.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: _Fireal_ on Dec 09, 2009, 03:27 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 09, 2009, 12:57 AM
if you LET them ruin your mind, it will.

If that's your reasoning on drugs, and the side effects of them, I think I agree with your earlier statement of:

Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 08:40 PM
fucks your thought process up from long term use.(take me as a perfect example.) i feel like i may be developing schizotypal behavior now-a-days as a result of my extended drug use in general.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: one weak on Dec 09, 2009, 04:09 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 09, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Dec 09, 2009, 12:07 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 08:40 PM
if you ever do DXM trips, try not to do it a whole lot cause it definitely fucks your thought process up from long term use.(take me as a perfect example.) i feel like i may be developing schizotypal behavior now-a-days as a result of my extended drug use in general.



i highly recommend that nobody use DXM. you are at a higher risk of wrecking your liver when you mess with DXM. miseducated kids think dxm is great, when in fact, people are much more safe when you eat a small dose of mushrooms, rather than downing bottles of robotussin.

if you are thinking about trying dxm, or doing it. dont. their are far too many health risks involved for a dirty trip.

i recommend more people educate themselves before just putting random things into their body, or even worse, over the counter medications.


www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org) is a non-biased website with great information on psychedelics

That certainly came off pretty elitish considering you're referring to me as a "Miseducated kid", as if you're better than me or something because you do "safer drugs." I know and always have known full well the risks of anything I have put into my body. However I do not suffer from paranoia about dying or becoming sick/messing up my brain like 99% of people do. I do not let that fear restrain me from having fun, because if i'm having fun than that's the most important thing to me. Being worried about the consequences causes you to take fewer risks, leveling out to many missed out experiences that could have possibly given you insight on life in general, or changed your perception of thinking. The thought of being safe is just a noose around the human neck, and it binds everyone together in a big ball of conformity. And by the way, after doing all the drugs I've done, I actually feel I've come out smarter and more educated in a different form(life), while i've forgotten everything I was taught growing up(formal education, what i 'believed' was right/wrong as a result of other people's opinions becoming my own, and essentially became myself.)

I'm not saying be a fucking drug hound like I was, but jesus christ, live a little. If God worried about the consequences of creating earth and humans, well no one can even fathom what kind of dilemma he'd be in. Drugs will only fuck you up if your a weak minded person, with no will, or personal strength and belief in yourself. Pretty much, if you LET them ruin your mind, it will. If you take it as it comes and just quit complicating things then everything will pan out fine. I do believe in Karma, and the fact that no matter what you believe at the moment, everything comes out even in the end.

what a load of nonsense. this train of thought is precisely why the world is overrun by little retards downing bottles of cough syrup and regurgitating some quasi-spiritual rant instead of people that recreate with some weed or mushrooms on occasion. "don't be a drug hound like me....blah, blah..." aren't you like 18?
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: Nailec on Dec 09, 2009, 12:20 PM
lol. its chemical substances. you can not control them. no matter how strong your mind is.

that is as if you say something only developes depression when he/she is a weak person, which is very insulting and wrong.

i would just say the risks are higher if you are labile.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 09, 2009, 07:41 PM
@Nailec - Okay, you are right..You can't control a chemical substance. However for all the drugs I did, and the many times I did triple c's, I haven't lost my mind. I'm still capable of communication and thought, so in my eyes i'm fine.

@One Weak - What? Yes I'm 18.

@Fireal - Yeah, that is completely my opinion though. I may not remember everything I learned in school(what person really does?) but i learned alot more through drugs about myself and other people...something that actually matters.(in my opinion.)
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Dec 09, 2009, 09:47 PM
Quote from: one weak on Dec 09, 2009, 04:09 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 09, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Dec 09, 2009, 12:07 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 08:40 PM
if you ever do DXM trips, try not to do it a whole lot cause it definitely fucks your thought process up from long term use.(take me as a perfect example.) i feel like i may be developing schizotypal behavior now-a-days as a result of my extended drug use in general.



i highly recommend that nobody use DXM. you are at a higher risk of wrecking your liver when you mess with DXM. miseducated kids think dxm is great, when in fact, people are much more safe when you eat a small dose of mushrooms, rather than downing bottles of robotussin.

if you are thinking about trying dxm, or doing it. dont. their are far too many health risks involved for a dirty trip.

i recommend more people educate themselves before just putting random things into their body, or even worse, over the counter medications.


www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org) is a non-biased website with great information on psychedelics

That certainly came off pretty elitish considering you're referring to me as a "Miseducated kid", as if you're better than me or something because you do "safer drugs." I know and always have known full well the risks of anything I have put into my body. However I do not suffer from paranoia about dying or becoming sick/messing up my brain like 99% of people do. I do not let that fear restrain me from having fun, because if i'm having fun than that's the most important thing to me. Being worried about the consequences causes you to take fewer risks, leveling out to many missed out experiences that could have possibly given you insight on life in general, or changed your perception of thinking. The thought of being safe is just a noose around the human neck, and it binds everyone together in a big ball of conformity. And by the way, after doing all the drugs I've done, I actually feel I've come out smarter and more educated in a different form(life), while i've forgotten everything I was taught growing up(formal education, what i 'believed' was right/wrong as a result of other people's opinions becoming my own, and essentially became myself.)

I'm not saying be a fucking drug hound like I was, but jesus christ, live a little. If God worried about the consequences of creating earth and humans, well no one can even fathom what kind of dilemma he'd be in. Drugs will only fuck you up if your a weak minded person, with no will, or personal strength and belief in yourself. Pretty much, if you LET them ruin your mind, it will. If you take it as it comes and just quit complicating things then everything will pan out fine. I do believe in Karma, and the fact that no matter what you believe at the moment, everything comes out even in the end.

what a load of nonsense. this train of thought is precisely why the world is overrun by little retards downing bottles of cough syrup and regurgitating some quasi-spiritual rant instead of people that recreate with some weed or mushrooms on occasion. "don't be a drug hound like me....blah, blah..." aren't you like 18?

word, man.  i'm personally totally stoked that i never smoked angel dust.  call me crazy.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: tarkil on Dec 10, 2009, 09:24 AM
I'll just say "lolz @ NoMoreSugar"


And actually lolz @  all the 18 years old thinking they know everything about life...

And before you say anything, no I'm not interested at all to learn all you did in your past 18 years which make you such an exception...
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: lostpilot on Dec 10, 2009, 10:40 AM
I'll have to agree with tarkil. Don't think that being 18 makes you know a lot of life. And please do not call yourself a drug hound, unless you're 30, a crack whore without a place to live, no relatives, robbing people to get your fix. If you're just an occasional drug user (say, up to four times of getting high per week or something), you're still a regular person, not really a drug hound.

have you tried heroin? - no - not a drug hound
have you tried anything intravenous - no - not a drug hound
I could go on and on.


And seriously, man, my parents are 45 years old both, and they occasionally tell me how they do not understand half of the shit that is going on in "LIFE". so please, don't feel like you know everything, experienced everything etc. Just saying.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 10, 2009, 07:51 PM
Quote from: lostpilot on Dec 10, 2009, 10:40 AM
I'll have to agree with tarkil. Don't think that being 18 makes you know a lot of life. And please do not call yourself a drug hound, unless you're 30, a crack whore without a place to live, no relatives, robbing people to get your fix. If you're just an occasional drug user (say, up to four times of getting high per week or something), you're still a regular person, not really a drug hound.

have you tried heroin? - no - not a drug hound
have you tried anything intravenous - no - not a drug hound
I could go on and on.


And seriously, man, my parents are 45 years old both, and they occasionally tell me how they do not understand half of the shit that is going on in "LIFE". so please, don't feel like you know everything, experienced everything etc. Just saying.

(FYI, I've done heroin many times...and the other shit you listed off about being a drug hound, I've been there too...so it shows how much you know about me.)
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 10, 2009, 07:57 PM
It's so amazing how all of you suddenly know everything about my life, and believe that I think I know even a sliver about life being 18.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Dec 10, 2009, 08:37 PM
dude you're the one who spouted off a bunch of bullshit to fireal when i thought and i'm pretty sure he thought he was agreeing with you.  And contrary to what you might believe, the more different drugs someone has done doesn't really make them more credible, it's pretty much the opposite.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 10, 2009, 08:41 PM
yeah yeah my bad to fireal i did realize that afterwards, it was just the way he said it, thats all.

and as for you,  what are you talking about? i never mentioned anything remotely close to that. lostpilot said that i've never done heroin or any drug intravenously, which is false because I have done coke and heroin intravenously. he also mentioned that I've never been homeless(also false), and that i've never robbed people to get my fix(which is also false)
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Dec 10, 2009, 09:05 PM
you're just coming off like kind of an attention whore with the whole cliché "i've had a hard life and i've done every drug under the sun and i wouldn't trade a single trip for an actual, contructive life experience."  i'd say 99% of the time one thinks they actually learn something when they're on drugs, it's really just rearranging knowledge they already had in their brain.  like someone speaking to you in a dream.  one day you may realize this, but until then, have fun thinking you learned more by eating a bag of shrooms or a tab of 'cid than you did in a year of school.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: Fireal1222 on Dec 10, 2009, 09:11 PM
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Dec 10, 2009, 09:05 PM
you're just coming off like kind of an attention whore with the whole cliché "i've had a hard life and i've done every drug under the sun and i wouldn't trade a single trip for an actual, contructive life experience."  i'd say 99% of the time one thinks they actually learn something when they're on drugs, it's really just rearranging knowledge they already had in their brain.  like someone speaking to you in a dream.  one day you may realize this, but until then, have fun thinking you learned more by eating a bag of shrooms or a tab of 'cid than you did in a year of school.


well put
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: sing blue silver on Dec 10, 2009, 09:31 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 08, 2009, 08:40 PM
if you ever do DXM trips, try not to do it a whole lot cause it definitely fucks your thought process up from long term use.(take me as a perfect example.) i feel like i may be developing schizotypal behavior now-a-days as a result of my extended drug use in general.

nice elliott smith avatar. anyway i quit using any drugs besides pot and alcohol about 3 years ago. i did a LOT of acid and mushrooms and then went on a cocaine binge. psychadellics will fuck with your head after a while. i thought i was in the clear but it caused me a lot of issues for a while. experimentation is all well and good but nobody should be going overboard on it. acid is not an everyday drug. it's all about moderation people.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 10, 2009, 09:51 PM
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Dec 10, 2009, 09:05 PM
you're just coming off like kind of an attention whore with the whole cliché "i've had a hard life and i've done every drug under the sun and i wouldn't trade a single trip for an actual, contructive life experience."  i'd say 99% of the time one thinks they actually learn something when they're on drugs, it's really just rearranging knowledge they already had in their brain.  like someone speaking to you in a dream.  one day you may realize this, but until then, have fun thinking you learned more by eating a bag of shrooms or a tab of 'cid than you did in a year of school.

Lol well i've been learning that you guys don't take too kindly to sharing life experiences, so I won't be speaking about mine anymore. I'm not trying to be an attention whore...The latter of that paragraph you're probably right about, it's just that i didn't really care about it while i was in school so...i can't really say I care too much about it now. Guess that makes me stupid, blind, whatever you may think about me. It's not that I care, truly. (didn't mean to pun)
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: Fireal1222 on Dec 10, 2009, 09:52 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 10, 2009, 09:31 PM
it's all about moderation people.

that really is the key.. when you begin to let something take control of you. or when you are doing it non consciously, it becomes a very  bad thing.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 10, 2009, 09:57 PM
Something I've always been interested in(and be my major in college one day) is Philosophy. Drugs like DXM and Acid helped me expand on my philosophical thoughts, things normal people wouldn't find important. I probably would have never gained that interest had I never began doing harder drugs...and now that I have nearly ceased my use of drugs besides Pot and Alcohol(and the occasional DXM now...like every few months i'll do it once. it blows me away, and almost always It helps me to figure out answers to problems that are constantly plaguing me when I'm sober.) I feel like I'm regaining my grasp on the world slowly, and I don't feel like I'm so far apart from everyone or anything anymore.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Dec 10, 2009, 10:02 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 10, 2009, 09:51 PM
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Dec 10, 2009, 09:05 PM
you're just coming off like kind of an attention whore with the whole cliché "i've had a hard life and i've done every drug under the sun and i wouldn't trade a single trip for an actual, contructive life experience."  i'd say 99% of the time one thinks they actually learn something when they're on drugs, it's really just rearranging knowledge they already had in their brain.  like someone speaking to you in a dream.  one day you may realize this, but until then, have fun thinking you learned more by eating a bag of shrooms or a tab of 'cid than you did in a year of school.

Lol well i've been learning that you guys don't take too kindly to sharing life experiences, so I won't be speaking about mine anymore. I'm not trying to be an attention whore...The latter of that paragraph you're probably right about, it's just that i didn't really care about it while i was in school so...i can't really say I care too much about it now. Guess that makes me stupid, blind, whatever you may think about me. It's not that I care, truly. (didn't mean to pun)

i have no problem with you sharing life experiences, that's not what i was saying.  i didn't have a problem with anything you said until that bs diatribe, just came off like you were saying you were smarter than the other people who abstained because you acted in the name of some addict behavior under the guise of personal expansion.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 10, 2009, 10:25 PM
never meant it like that at all
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: _Fireal_ on Dec 11, 2009, 12:50 AM
I think more commonly it's "I'm so fucking high, I think I just made an amazing discovery."

I mean, really, name five monumental things you realized while on drugs, solely because of the drugs.  What life problems have been solved by taking a trip?

I'm not saying that in the entire history of altered consciousness actual valuable discoveries haven't been made, but I think many people just use it as an excuse.
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: one weak on Dec 11, 2009, 12:52 AM
yep
Title: Re: Psychedelics
Post by: No More Sugar on Dec 11, 2009, 03:58 PM
no actual life problems have been solved, that's true. it's just mental puzzles. like things that were bothering me at that point in time, and i figured out how to get past them...idk it's more so that i just felt like i was advancing because i was learning how to let people go, which may be the cause of why i tend to refuse human contact, these days.

but yeah i realized that last night, that as i was doing all the drugs, that none of my actual problems(the reasons why i was taking drugs in the first place ie: fucking up in school leading to father kicking me out every week) were not actually going away, but compounding and beginning to stink...(if you get that)