Definitely in my top 3 favorite drama shows.
Brilliant writing, brilliant characters.
I just had a SoA marathon (season 1 and 2) with my friend. STOKED about season 3.
Favorite characters: Opie, Jax, Bobby and Tig.
sux
As always, your posts are well written and thoughtful.
Fuck off.
yeah seriously do you really need to comment on EVERY SINGLE THING you hate. oh no! wax hates SoA, therefore i cannot watch season 3!
anyways, great great show theis! i have the first on dvd, and can't wait for season 2's dvds to come out in august. that last season solidified it as my second show on tv right now (behind Breaking Bad). I hope we haven't seen the last of Adam Arkin's character. and did you begin to feel for Henry Rollins by the finale? he was such a badass throughout the season, but i felt bad for him by the penultimate episode, when that huge brawl was going to happen.
u guys provide me with so much so easily believe everything u read? lol......
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Jun 03, 2010, 08:52 PM
I hope we haven't seen the last of Adam Arkin's character.
I hope not. I wanna see that scumbag suffer.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Jun 03, 2010, 08:52 PM
and did you begin to feel for Henry Rollins by the finale? he was such a badass throughout the season, but i felt bad for him by the penultimate episode, when that huge brawl was going to happen.
Can't say I was feeling sorry for him. He definitely had it coming. He annoyed the shit out of me, but that just proves that he played his role to perfection.
The season finale was such a fucking cliffhanger. It's torture that we're gonna have to wait till September to get Season 3.
Also, Half Sack's fate really saddened me. He was such a cool dude. I was hoping to see him getting enrolled as a member.
Oh, and I totally just ordered a SAMCRO t-shirt :D
wait did Half Sack actually die? i can't remember if we actually saw him croak.
Yeah, he died.
I read an interview with Kurt Sutter where he said that Johnny wasn't happy on the set and therefore he was killed off.
fuuuuuuck i can't wait to rewatch the second season. dvd's are out august 31!
Quote from: theis on Jun 04, 2010, 11:05 AM
Yeah, he died.
I read an interview with Kurt Sutter where he said that Johnny wasn't happy on the set and therefore he was killed off.
Yeah, I think I heard he wanted more money..
I read Kurt Sutters blog pretty regularly at http://sutterink.blogspot.com/ (http://sutterink.blogspot.com/) He's a pretty interesting guy.
the Sunny/philly thread reminded of that this show is coming back soon too on SEPTEMBER 7!
Great beginning.
fuck yeah! this series really knows how to end an episode. I wonder who was behind the shit hitting the fan there?
Probably the russians or chinese....
What? Season 3 has begun?
*Heads to Isohunt*
DL that shit dude!
Gonna watch it tonight! Exciiiited.
Edit: Just saw it.
What an epic way to kick off Season 3. The ending of the episode was intense. Can't wait to see Jax kick all kinds of ass in this season.
anyone else still watching this show? the new season so far is not as powerful as season 2, but damn it is really starting to pick up. can't wait to see what happens once the gang gets to Belfast.
oh, and seeing 4 Deadwood alums almost every week on this show FTW.
Definitely a slow start to the season but, as you said, it's really beginning to pick up.
bumpin' this beast. to quote martin lawrence, "shit just got real".
anyone else that watches this think that there's a sort of creepy, awkward vibe between Trinity and Jax that seems to be leading to incest? even though they still don't know they're related?
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Nov 09, 2010, 12:17 AM
anyone else that watches this think that there's a sort of creepy, awkward vibe between Trinity and Jax that seems to be leading to incest? even though they still don't know they're related?
Ha, I was thinking the same thing. It would be rather lame, though. Gemma should just tell 'em. They're both adults. "Yo, Jax, don't be bangin' that chick. She's your sister, k?".
I must say that this is my least favorite season yet. I think they're dragging the Abel story a bit too much. I hope it gets crazy in the next episode.
i think it should be because now we've got Tera to worry about, and the Unser/Hale situation is getting good. plus there's the whole Jimmy working with the Belfast Sons deal, which has to blow up in someone's face soon. real soon.
you know this is a great show when you can get a pic of Peg Bundy holding a gun to a baby's head.
(http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/SOA-baby-hostage.jpg)
Haha, that was awesome.
So glad the Abel story is wrapped up. Time to get back to Charming and kick some Salvarez ass!
shit yeah! i admit this season has been weaker than the last one, but it has continuously gotten better with every episode. hopefully tonight Jax saves Tara's sweet ass.
it's a shame only 2 of us on here actually watch this show.
but either way, what a satisfying season finale! NEVER saw that twist coming, and it was soooo good.
Fuck yeah, the season finale was amazing. One of the best SOA episodes.
Opie and Stahl in the car...I got chills! Intense scene.
My buddy seems to think that Dayton Callie (chief unser) is leaving the show. I've seen nothing to confirm this but I can see that happening after the finale. I hope it's untrue because he's a great character and I can see him doing a lot more for samcro in the future. And he's another Deadwood alum that should be getting more work.
Danny Trejo is in the next season. Hopefully he can be as badass as Henry Rollins was. Also another Deadwood alum joins the show this season, the awesome Ray McKinnon.
I'm going to join this lovely twosome and make it a threesome. Amazing show, and formulated off of my favorite Shakespeare play, Hamlet. All of these characters scare the living shit out of me, but all in the right ways. Oh, and I am in LOVE with Opie. God, he's amazingly sexy.
Really looking forward to the new season in September. Danny Trejo sounds like a perfect addition to the cast.
I'm jealous of Opie's beard-growing skills. Good reference though with Hamlet. It's something I've never really given much thought to, but is spot on.
If I were a man, I'd love to have Opie's beard. It's an awe-inspiring beard.
I'm shocked Sons of Anarchy wasn't nominated for any Emmys this year. I thought Katey Sagal would have at least gotten something. I hear Kurt Sutter isn't very happy about it. At all.
10 minutes, nuckas.
fuckin russians, man
Awesome season opener!
God I can't wait to see more of the Reverend Smith from Deadwood as Lincoln Potter. Could be a really good story arc.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Dec 01, 2010, 07:31 PM
it's a shame only 2 of us on here actually watch this show.
but either way, what a satisfying season finale! NEVER saw that twist coming, and it was soooo good.
Started watching it over the summer. I just finished season 3 Monday , after buying it last week. I didn't quite like the Ireland story, but overall I really like the show.
Yeah, the Ireland story didn't really tickle my fancy either. But it really does propel the rest of the plot along.
I just got caught up with the first two episodes of the season and so far I'm really loving it. Danny Trejo is fitting into the cast beautifully.
Trejo takes every show/movie to another level.
This season is shaping up to be great.
Last episode was fantastic.
Needs more Trejo
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 22, 2011, 05:51 PM
Needs more Trejo
Agreed. You can never have too much Trejo. I hope he'll have more screen time as the season progresses. Otherwise the season really is turning out to be fantastic.
Juice, you're a fuckin' idiot.
seriously, he's been one of my favorite characters, but last night's episode was almost painful to watch during his part. I like how basically we're being reminded everyone is bad in this show, aside from Tara and maybe Jax and PIney to a degree. Even Unser is snooping Tara's office and hiding crucial info from people.
But again... I love the prosecutor Lincoln Potter character and actor. The scheming and plotting is so perfect, way better and cooler than Agent Stahl.
I'm really hoping this Juice business ends up being an amazing plot twist so he doesn't look like a bastard because he's one of my favorite characters on the show, too. On the brightside he's getting more airtime on the show.
This John Teller business is also getting kind of juicy. Can't wait to see it bubble over.
Holy shit!
This season is about get really fucking crazy. And that porn bitch had it coming.
Man, that last episode pulled out ALL the stops! I'm all excited for the next episode.
Does anyone else here like Lyla? I've never really liked her so I'm kind of hoping this is the end of the road between her and Opie.
Now that I think about it, I guess I don't really care about Lyla. I can see them writing her off soon.
Juice ain't dead.
Juice ain't dead, but... shiiiiiit.
What the hell is going on this season? Everything is getting CRAZY!
Clay...simply rotten to the core.
I just REALLY hope Tara isn't next.
That would be too much, almost.
I hope it's Opie who gets to "take care" of Clay. I mean, first his wife...now his father.
I can go with that. He sure didn't let us down when he took care of Agent Stahl.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 27, 2011, 02:12 AM
I just REALLY hope Tara isn't next.
Meh, I think she's a terrible actress. She's sad all the fucking time.
Tara started off as a good character, but it seems like her character has taken a back seat this season. Every time I review this season in my head I forget she's there which is horrible since she has a big plot line.
I feel as if Jax is the one who really needs to take Clay out. After all the show is based off Hamlet. However the writers are giving Opie more of a reason to do it, which is something I'm not totally against. Means he gets more screen time. :)
Last episode was fucking amazing.
I have a feeling next week we're really gonna feel bad for Opie.
This season might be better than the glorious season 2 with Adam Arkin and Henry Rollins. And to make it even better, I just read that FX added a 14th episode this season.
Goddamnit, this season is incredible.
Rip Kozik :(
That last scene with Opie and Unser had me on the edge. Ryan Hurst rocked that scene.
what the fuck is with juice walking across the field like that? I know he is going through some shit, but it's still fucked up. I got quite angry and turned the tv off after he did that. I can't believe the producers didn't step in.
Quote from: downtownpony on Nov 16, 2011, 10:45 PM
I got quite angry and turned the tv off after he did that. I can't believe the producers didn't step in.
Are you serious? That's just idiotic.
Juice is still torn up inside. At this point, he doesn't care if he lives or dies. Dude tried to hang himself for fucks sake.
I have to download it now. Fucking amber alert on my tv right when opie gets to the cabin.
Fantastic. Does anyone see how Clay can possibly live on past this season? I mean, there is literally no one left who has his back.
Quote from: theis on Nov 16, 2011, 11:28 PM
Quote from: downtownpony on Nov 16, 2011, 10:45 PM
I got quite angry and turned the tv off after he did that. I can't believe the producers didn't step in.
Are you serious? That's just idiotic.
Juice is still torn up inside. At this point, he doesn't care if he lives or dies. Dude tried to hang himself for fucks sake.
You're an ignorant man filled with hate, and I can't help you.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Nov 17, 2011, 02:31 AM
Fantastic. Does anyone see how Clay can possibly live on past this season? I mean, there is literally no one left who has his back.
Maybe join the cartel?
Quote from: downtownpony on Nov 17, 2011, 03:47 PM
Quote from: theis on Nov 16, 2011, 11:28 PM
Quote from: downtownpony on Nov 16, 2011, 10:45 PM
I got quite angry and turned the tv off after he did that. I can't believe the producers didn't step in.
Are you serious? That's just idiotic.
Juice is still torn up inside. At this point, he doesn't care if he lives or dies. Dude tried to hang himself for fucks sake.
You're an ignorant man filled with hate, and I can't help you.
Haha, what? Loosen the tampon, son.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
^ what he said.
dayum.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Nov 10, 2011, 12:53 AM
I have a feeling next week we're really gonna feel bad for Opie.
This season might be better than the glorious season 2 with Adam Arkin and Henry Rollins. And to make it even better, I just read that FX added a 14th episode this season.
Yep, 2 part season finale... fuck.. its going to be crazy.
I have a question for you guys since you're obviously up on all the most recent episodes. I just finished season 3 and I'm debating whether or not to bother with season 4. I just started the first episode and I'm ready to turn it off. I could give a fuck about this whole Roosevelt bullshit. It's just stahl all over again, and that was more than an entire season of complete fucking irritation before Opie finally blows her head off. So I guess I just wan't to know, without having anything completely given away: Do characters who deserve it get their comeuppance? Do we finally start to blow the lid off this John Teller shit? I love this show but the storylines can become rather tedious and drawn out more than they need to be. Btw I love this show, not trying to annoy any of you SOA people.
Season 4 will blow your face off. Just watch it.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Nov 10, 2011, 12:53 AM
This season might be better than the glorious season 2 with Adam Arkin and Henry Rollins.
I stand by this statement. And I agree about the 3rd season. It took forever to develop and I thought they spent way too many episodes dealing with the Irish bullshit. But I thought they made up for everything with that finale, when the story finally progressed.
But just watch this season. There's a lot of internal SOA drama, there's Danny Trejo, there's more Big Otto, there's great performances by the new sheriff and prosecutor, lots of tense moments. Shit hits the fan. Hard.
Quote from: theis on Nov 28, 2011, 06:03 PM
Season 4 will blow your face off. Just watch it.
I think it literally might have blown my face off a couple of times, especially the past few episodes.
Third season did drag quite a bit, but this season totally makes up for it.
Fuck. Yes.
This whole racism bullshit is making it really hard to make it through season 4. After the long masturbatorial session that was season 3, I'm reaching the end of my rope here.
season finale tonight...
like a freaky messenger haha
After that build-up during the entire season, to be honest, that finale was kind of a letdown.
At least I was surprised with that twist (*cough*Dexter*cough*cough*).
I thought it was a great and very melancholic ending.
I kinda admire how low-key it was. Everything got set up perfectly for the next season.
Can't wait to see what happens once Clay gets out from the hospital.
One thing that bothered me; Jax should have told Opie about what was going down.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Dec 07, 2011, 06:10 PM
After that build-up during the entire season, to be honest, that finale was kind of a letdown.
At least I was surprised with that twist (*cough*Dexter*cough*cough*).
Haha, no shit right? I know Warmingglow had a field day with the season finale. Granted, not the greatest finale in the world but it did what it was supposed to do.
Quote from: theis on Dec 07, 2011, 08:42 PM
I thought it was a great and very melancholic ending.
I kinda admire how low-key it was. Everything got set up perfectly for the next season.
I agree. I think that's what a lot of people forget about the show--the audience needs to be left with something to hold on to for the next nine months. If Jax ended up killing Clay it would have been way too obvious. I'm glad Sutter didn't take us down that road.
Yeah, it would have been too easy to kill Clay that way.
He will die, no doubt about, but when he does it will be a real showdown between him and Jax. At least I hope so!
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Dec 07, 2011, 09:23 PM
the audience needs to be left with something to hold on to for the next nine months.
ugh. nine months. i love these shows on cable, but my god, i really get pissed off having to wait nine months (sometimes 12) for new episodes.
Quote from: theis on Dec 07, 2011, 08:42 PM
One thing that bothered me; Jax should have told Opie about what was going down.
Your are fast with the new sig man, but yeah I thought that was odd too that Jax didn't tell Opie, bummed me out. I loved the final shot of the episode with Tara behind Jax. Tara's becoming diabolical, and now that she can't do surgery, she's fucking losing it. I can't wait to see what clay is going to do next, he's got nothing to lose now, and I believe that he is insane. Ron perlman recently gave an interview about his thoughts on clay's journey that is pretty interesting, I think it's on ET's website.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Dec 07, 2011, 09:59 PM
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Dec 07, 2011, 09:23 PM
the audience needs to be left with something to hold on to for the next nine months.
ugh. nine months. i love these shows on cable, but my god, i really get pissed off having to wait nine months (sometimes 12) for new episodes.
Same here. My roommates noticed how sad I looked after I finished watching the episode and it was just because I'm going to have to go through a long process of waiting. Hopefully Sutter makes another great season.
Do we know how many more seasons SoA is getting? I know Mad Men and Breaking Bad have gone public with end dates, but I've heard nothing about this.
I read an interview with Sutter where he said that there's definitely gonna be two more seasons.
Sons of anarchy season 4 episode 13- What is the song that is playing towards the end of the episode?
there sitting by the boxing ring while jack's is reading the letters his dad wrote while the song is playing.
Ryan Horne "Terrible Tommy"
Ryan Horne - Terrible Tommy (Sons of Anarchy) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4P5URTv9aU#ws)
the show just got officially picked up for another 2 seasons, putting it awfully close to Dexter-territory.
New episode tonight!- Any bets on how many episodes clay lasts? i say three or four
26
well admitted to to killin piney so i dont think its to far off
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Feb 07, 2012, 02:38 AM
the show just got officially picked up for another 2 seasons, putting it awfully close to Dexter-territory.
I'm worried about this as well
Fantastic season opener!
Yep, that was pretty awesome. Loved the Tig scenes. What're the odds on Unser being dead?
I don't think he's dead. That'd be pretty odd. But hey, who knows.
The scene with Pope and Tig was pretty damn fucked up. I can't wait to see him completely lose it and go bat-shit this season. Sadly, I think it will end in his demise.
I would love it if Tig died. He's always been such a piece of shit. Then again so is basically every person on this show. I've become so conflicted about this show and it's characters.
Tig's crying sounded fake, to me at least.
Personally I thought the scene with Tig and Pope was highly enjoyable. FINALLY Tig gets to rip some of what he's sown. His comment afterwards about taking Pope's head off show's that he still hasn't learned anything and doesn't feel bad about what he did. He needs to die. But in my opinion he needed to die long ago. He killed Donna, almost killed Jax, is a necrophiliac, and likes to bang little slave mexican girls. There's just never been a redeeming quality to his character. He needs to die. Whatever he gets is too good for him. Also, I didn't like how they have Tara's hair and clothing now. It's probably the point, but she looks like every other white trash biker skank at this point. And that's unfortunate because Maggie Siff is a BEAUTIFUL woman.
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Sep 12, 2012, 11:01 PM
Maggie Siff is a BEAUTIFUL woman.
that's what I'm talkin' bout.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 13, 2012, 12:32 AM
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Sep 12, 2012, 11:01 PM
Maggie Siff is a BEAUTIFUL woman.
that's what I'm talkin' bout.
agrred, i just dont like shes become such a dark character but at the same time i cant wait to she how she does as the new Queen
Great episode.
Opie, once again, confirmed why he's my favorite character. Goddamnit, that scene was awesome!
yeah i was wondering why he drove up at the last min, then it hit me he jus said goodbye to lyla, HES GOING INSIDE TOO!
annnnd he gets beaten to death inside.
fuck dude
Someone else spoiled the new ep earlier. I has a sad now.
I teared up a bit when Opie was being beaten. My favorite character on the show is now dead. How will I cope now? :'(
I'm the one that's always for shows killing off characters. Makes things more interesting (come on Lori!). But this... this kinda blows.
yes. yes it does.
Rarely have I've been this upset while watching a show.
I don't know what to say...
I'm still trying to comprehend what happened... can't really wrap my head around it. Even though I was fearing it would happen it still hit me like ten ton of bricks.
This show won't be the same again.
I won't be able to get this image out of my head for a long time. (SPOILER).
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tumblr_may6tdsKkt1r58omeo2_500.gif (http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tumblr_may6tdsKkt1r58omeo2_500.gif)
yea lyla and the kids are gunna be fuctup next episode
As Warming Glow pointed though, the show is so intriguing right now. Sure he was everyone's favorite character, but you just want to watch the Sons sort this mess out and exact sweet sweet revenge on Pope and company.
Now his kids are orphans
'Sons Of Anarchy's' Half Sack Dies In Real Life (http://"http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/09/johnny-lewis-half-sack-dead/#more-152543")
What. The. Fuck.
That's so bizarre.
WTF!!!!!!
Fuck him for being a murderer. Of an old lady.
Yeah. The whole thing is just fucking weird.
Holy shit
And the story just keeps getting weirder...
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/09/johnny-lewis-update-may-have-been-on-drugs-may-have-also-killed-a-cat-plus-kurt-sutter-chimes-in/ (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/09/johnny-lewis-update-may-have-been-on-drugs-may-have-also-killed-a-cat-plus-kurt-sutter-chimes-in/)
so I found out today that he's a murderer, a cat killer, and once dated Katy Perry. fuck dude. really can't get much worse than that trifecta.
i ke how sutter had a spoiler on his twitter what a guy.
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Michael has become a really bad guy ever since making it off the island?
I think the REAL question you should be asking is where's Walt?
http://youtu.be/Qmg6gEq33hk (http://youtu.be/Qmg6gEq33hk)
Haha I know right. Man they really let that storyline just kind of peter out in Lost. Anyway, the episode was great but I hate what happened to Opie. He's given fucking everything to the club, and no one really seems to give a shit. Jax claims to but I don't think any of the characters have truly grasped what the club has done to Opie.
Because no one but clay and jacks knows!
Opie did put so much into the club and got nothing in return, which is what makes his death not only sad but also a bitter one. The club was Opie's life and he died for the club. What did the club ever do to him? All it did was ruin his life.
I want Henry Rollins back on the show. Somehow.
no.
I'm fine with Henry Rollins being right where he is; Floundering in obscurity performing oral on jello biafra
Did anyone else cry like a blubbering baby during Opie's wake? Or was that just me?
i didnt move for the entire episode, i hope the revene is long and sweet
Last nights Episode was the worst one i've seen in these 5 seasons. i hope its not a sign of things to come.
what you dont like trannies?
Was the guy who played the transvestite the same guy who plays Boyd on Justified? If so that's pretty unexpected.
Yeah it was. That was completely out of nowhere. I thought the episode was pretty good, it progressed all the storylines. It was actually nice seeing that asshole mayor again as well.
It was a hilarious episode (well except for the part with Eli's wife) and a welcome relief from all the current heaviness.
ye that sheriff is PISSED!
Quote from: theis on Oct 11, 2012, 01:11 PM
It was a hilarious episode (well except for the part with Eli's wife) and a welcome relief from all the current heaviness.
I agree. I really needed something lighter after the whole Opie ordeal. I forgot how funny Tig could be. Too bad about his ass...
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ell last night was ridiculus. homicide, suicide and murder almost.
I know! Everyone and their mother got their head blown off or beaten in. Definitely a different pace from last week's episode, but I like that Kurt Sutter is keeping us on our toes.
I'm still trying to figure out what Clay's motives are. We know he is involved with the home invasions, but what's with pretending his health is failing? He's got something up his sleeve.
And sexy, SEXY Joel McHale! Mmmmm! This will keep me sane until Community comes back. I'm crossing my fingers for a shirtless scene with him!
Clays going to try rip the club apart from the inside - which in turn is going to cause even more trouble for jax. jax and taras lies are going to start eating at each other too, with her not tellin what went down at the prison hel,l all them niggas lies are guna get mo people killed.
Clay's probably fucking with shit to regain control of the club.
Tara has only 2 options with the Otto thing- kill him or blow him.
They really need to start moving the story forward in a bigger way. Each episode we just get a little tiny bit of info and a whole bunch of filler and I'm growing tired of it.
Thought it was an awesome episode.
Death by snowglobe! Intense scene.
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Oct 17, 2012, 09:46 PM
They really need to start moving the story forward in a bigger way. Each episode we just get a little tiny bit of info and a whole bunch of filler and I'm growing tired of it.
I agree. While it is entertaining to watch, the bigger picture is getting lost. Hopefully the next episode will trudge forward plot-wise.
Opie...erm...I mean Ryan Hurst shaved his glorious beard!
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mby29xhfuP1qafbq4o1_500.jpg)
RIP beard.
I miss his beard, but he still looks sexy.
I hope he does well now that he's off this show. I really think he's a great actor. Let's hope he doesn't go the johnny lewis route. 25I-NBOMe is a hell of a drug
Did anyone see last night's episode? Holy Fucking Shit.
the cliffhangers they throw at us every week... fuuuuck.
one of the boys is dead
Goddamn you, Gemma!
So, is anyone else convinced that Jax is turning into Clay?
He is getting pretty ruthless with his killing. I just don't like how they're going right back to the same endgame as last season with Clay needing to die. He needs to fucking die. Don't be a pussy, Jax (or Kurt Sutter).
I have a feeling they're stringing us along until the season finale. They have to make Clay fight for the gavel again, but if Clay doesn't die this season that's going to be very disappointing.
Anyone else feel uncomfortable when Jax blackmailed his own mother to go back to Clay after he beat the living shit out of her? Jax is turning into an awful person. Opie was his rock, and now that he's dead Jax is going off the rails.
Honestly, I don't blame Jax.
He's been through so much shit and now he's just handling it. No bullshit. FUCK Gemma.
I agree, Fuck Gemma. But I don't like the way Jax is going. That doesn't mean I don't understand it, I just don't like it. They've taken away almost every redeeming aspect of every character. I think that's the point of this season, but it's really starting to bother me. Can't believe Jax would be so slimy to push gemma back to clay, even if it's for a technically 'good' reason. I'm most disappointed with tara though. They've turned a beautiful, intelligent, surgeon into a fucking trashy biker whore. To me that's not good storytelling or good writing. It's just lazy and irritating. The longer I watch this show, the less I think that kurt sutter is actually that good at what he does.
Yeah, I'm definitely not fond of path Tara is going down either. I don't know if Sutter is trying to point out how the club can turn any one to the dark side or if he's making his characters evil so that way they can find redemption later on in the series. I think he enjoys fucking shit up way too much. He gets himself in a corner and sometimes it works, and other times it falls flat. I'm just crossing my fingers the season finale this year gives us something to yearn for.
Oh, and I still miss Opie. :(
This show is probably 1 of the most unpredictable ones Ive sat down and tried to keep track of. You never know who is gonna go.
Opie was awesome . fool had 2 silvers, long hair and just looked and acted like a nut ever since his old lady and Pops got their issue ...it was sad but awesome in a brutal way to see him go out .
never thought I would dig this show since I heard it was on basic cable here in the states ..but like Breaking Bad , It seems to prove the exception when it comes to pay channels having all the clout.. especially when it comes to violence, foul language and a great dirty gritty storyline.
and Clay is the fucking devil.
nobody but Perlman could pull his role off
Stephen King's Desperation - Ron Perlman2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URvm_VXO5zk#ws)
TAK!
Dude, props for the Desperation clip. Have you ever read the book? So fucking good. And Ron Perlman was incredible in the movie version. One of the few movies based on a book that actually lives up to what it was based on.
TAK!
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Nov 06, 2012, 04:58 PM
Dude, props for the Desperation clip. Have you ever read the book? So fucking good. And Ron Perlman was incredible in the movie version. One of the few movies based on a book that actually lives up to what it was based on.
TAK!
yea man
Ive probably read more King books than my mind should have allowed / handled . My fav. of course being It ( really hope production on that gets started soon and stays true to the book since its got the green light and a great screenplay writer at the helm) and all his others have always got to me...i could go on about his writing ..might start a thread ..Ive read most his work and Desperation is up there in my top 10..although I have to say it could of been alot better on film ( only thing that saved it to me was that they cast Perlman ala like they did Curry for IT)
great shit regardless..
Id love to see 2 stories from him made in to some type of cinema before I die man...and its from " Everything's Eventual"
"The Man in the Black Suit" and "Riding the Bullet"
awesome shit
I agree it could have been better. But seeing as it's such a long and complex book, I was actually pretty fucking impressed with how they managed to keep it pretty true to the story. Speaking of other books of his I'd like to see in cinema, a movie version of The Gunslinger would kick fucking ass.
Just saw last night's episode. I'll give Sutter this--he's open to doing anything on his shows. Sometimes it's brilliant and sometimes it's weird or awful, but he definitely doesn't follow a formula that's for sure.
I don't know how I feel about the Otto/Tara scene, but I definitely felt uncomfortable. I read Warming Glow's review and it was pretty harsh. The review stated that it was the Otto/Tara scene when SOA jumped the shark. Did anyone else think it jumped the shark at that moment? Because I sure as hell didn't. Maybe I'm biased because I like this show too much.
I read that too, and I'm starting to agree with some of what he writes about the show. Rowles on WG honestly kinda pisses me off sometimes in his posts, and his SoA reviews really bitch about EVERYTHING, which is annoying. I still love watching this show, and I'll admit it really is soap-opera-y. But Rowles wrote something at the end of his last review that made a lot of sense:
QuoteWe Need Tangible Evidence — Those were the words of Bobby again, reiterating that they can't take out Clay until they have "tangible evidence" that he was behind the home invasions. I hate to beat a dead horse, but no matter how many times Bobby or Jax say that, it doesn't make it any more true. They have plenty to indict Clay. If this was a court of law, there'd enough evidence to convict four times over. But more importantly, JAX PLANS TO KILL JUICE WITH NO "TANGIBLE EVIDENCE." Jax had a HUNCH that Juice was the informant, and that's all it takes to seal the fate of Juice? But with Clay? Apparently, they have to catch him in the act of shooting someone with videotaped evidence. There's a clear double standard here. Only Jax knows that Juice is the informant, but every member of SAMCRO except for Happy and Filthy Phil know that Clay was responsible for the home invasions. And yet, it's Juice's life that is in immediate danger. THIS SHOW MAKES NO F**KING SENSE.
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I read that too, and I'm starting to agree with some of what he writes about the show. Rowles on WG honestly kinda pisses me off sometimes in his posts, and his SoA reviews really bitch about EVERYTHING, which is annoying. I still love watching this show, and I'll admit it really is soap-opera-y. But Rowles wrote something at the end of his last review that made a lot of sense:
QuoteWe Need Tangible Evidence — Those were the words of Bobby again, reiterating that they can't take out Clay until they have "tangible evidence" that he was behind the home invasions. I hate to beat a dead horse, but no matter how many times Bobby or Jax say that, it doesn't make it any more true. They have plenty to indict Clay. If this was a court of law, there'd enough evidence to convict four times over. But more importantly, JAX PLANS TO KILL JUICE WITH NO "TANGIBLE EVIDENCE." Jax had a HUNCH that Juice was the informant, and that's all it takes to seal the fate of Juice? But with Clay? Apparently, they have to catch him in the act of shooting someone with videotaped evidence. There's a clear double standard here. Only Jax knows that Juice is the informant, but every member of SAMCRO except for Happy and Filthy Phil know that Clay was responsible for the home invasions. And yet, it's Juice's life that is in immediate danger. THIS SHOW MAKES NO F**KING SENSE.
Yeah, Dustin is a bitch. Bring Matt back! He did Corgi Friday right--no offense to Danger. I love him and he's one of my favorites at WG, but Corgis should be appreciated using AT LEAST 20 Corgi pictures.
Rowles' quote on the "tangible evidence" bit Sutter is using on this show hits it right on the nose. The Sons have always been impulsive and have never used evidence to decide who lives and who dies (Donna, anyone?) I think Sutter is running into difficulty trying to keep Clay alive for as long as possible and it's becoming illogical in the show's universe. Clay should have been dead by now by the Sons standard and the fact that he's still alive is just implausible at this point. If Clay doesn't die by the season finale, then the show is doing something absolutely wrong.
If Jax ends up killing Juice without any evidence, then it proves there is a double standard on the show and Sutter is doing things willy nilly to keep the audience interested. It would be show suicide if Sutter killed another universally loved character on the show. You seriously cannot kill Opie and Juice in the same season and still expect an audience to show up next season. If Juice dies, then what other lovable characters are left on the show?
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 08, 2012, 07:43 AM
Just saw last night's episode. I'll give Sutter this--he's open to doing anything on his shows. Sometimes it's brilliant and sometimes it's weird or awful, but he definitely doesn't follow a formula that's for sure.
I don't know how I feel about the Otto/Tara scene, but I definitely felt uncomfortable. I read Warming Glow's review and it was pretty harsh. The review stated that it was the Otto/Tara scene when SOA jumped the shark. Did anyone else think it jumped the shark at that moment? Because I sure as hell didn't. Maybe I'm biased because I like this show too much.
I agree that it definitely was uncomfortable and just unnecessary. I don't think this show has jumped the shark necessarily but I think it's starting to lose its greatness. A lot of just generally fucked up shit happening, seemingly just for the sake of seeing how fucked up things can get. I'm personally just getting really tired of almost every aspect of this show.
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 08, 2012, 08:06 PM
Yeah, Dustin is a bitch. Bring Matt back! He did Corgi Friday right--no offense to Danger. I love him and he's one of my favorites at WG, but Corgis should be appreciated using AT LEAST 20 Corgi pictures.
glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Nov 08, 2012, 08:52 PM
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 08, 2012, 07:43 AM
Just saw last night's episode. I'll give Sutter this--he's open to doing anything on his shows. Sometimes it's brilliant and sometimes it's weird or awful, but he definitely doesn't follow a formula that's for sure.
I don't know how I feel about the Otto/Tara scene, but I definitely felt uncomfortable. I read Warming Glow's review and it was pretty harsh. The review stated that it was the Otto/Tara scene when SOA jumped the shark. Did anyone else think it jumped the shark at that moment? Because I sure as hell didn't. Maybe I'm biased because I like this show too much.
I agree that it definitely was uncomfortable and just unnecessary. I don't think this show has jumped the shark necessarily but I think it's starting to lose its greatness. A lot of just generally fucked up shit happening, seemingly just for the sake of seeing how fucked up things can get. I'm personally just getting really tired of almost every aspect of this show.
The show has been very frustrating for me this past season, but I would rather a show runner just try to make the show interesting for both the writers and viewers and fail than to make it easy on himself and follow a generic formula to guarantee ratings. I just wish Sutter was more consistent in the logic of the show. I think that's where a lot of my frustration comes from. Who knows? Maybe the season finale will kick so much ass we'll just forget about what has happened with the show this season.
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Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 08, 2012, 08:06 PM
Yeah, Dustin is a bitch. Bring Matt back! He did Corgi Friday right--no offense to Danger. I love him and he's one of my favorites at WG, but Corgis should be appreciated using AT LEAST 20 Corgi pictures.
glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.
+1
Say what you want about Dustin Rowles. His reviews and analyses of this show are fucking spot on. I was going to post a long diatribe about the last episode but then I read his review on uproxx so I'm just going to post a link to that. He said everything I was thinking. I hope you guys read it and realize that he is right whether you like him or not. http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/11/10-things-we-learned-from-last-nights-maddening-sons-of-anarchy/ (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/11/10-things-we-learned-from-last-nights-maddening-sons-of-anarchy/)
His review for the past episode was pretty on the mark, but I still think he over-dramatizes shit a little too much.
I think this quote from Rowles encapsulates what I think about the show at this point:
QuoteHe makes up sh*t as he goes along, and then retroactively attempts to fit it in. It does, however, make for compelling television. As frustrating as Sons of Anarchy can get, and as much as Sutter has destroyed his characters, every episode is entertaining.
I may not enjoy Sutter's logic, but I do appreciate he manages to keep me interested. I'd rather Sutter try shit out and fail at it, then not try anything at all.
Also: Is Tara an idiot? No, seriously. I saw what Otto was going to do with that crucifix the minute he asked for it. How in fucking hell did she manage to make it though med school and become a great surgeon?!
I actually read most of uproxx's tv reviews, and still not a big fan of his. But yeah I'll admit he is spot on right now with SoA. The first half the season I thought Dustin was completely nuts, but I guess I was slow in realizing Sutter's writing strategy, and the current state of the show.
Still entertaining television, but it does get frustrating - the random Grim Bastards appearance and that they're important allies. And the whole Opie revenge plot is aggravating. Does Jax forget that Pope put the whole plot into play?
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Nov 17, 2012, 08:28 AM
Opie revenge plot is aggravating. Does Jax forget that Pope put the whole plot into play?
I don't get where Sutter is going with that, either. Jax keeps kissing Pope's ass and that makes no logical sense whatsoever. If my best friend was killed in front of me, I'd kill the guy behind the murder, not the guy paid to do the murdering. That's just fucking stupid.
The Clay plot is also annoying. Why do we need physical proof that Clay was behind the murders and the break-ins? Since when did the Sons become a court of law? The season finale better have a damn good pay off and make some sort of logical sense.
Exactly, you guys have said exactly what I thought. All of a sudden Jax is all buddy buddy with Pope, almost seeking his approval like a fucking puppy. Then the whole grim bastards thing. Shitting on a 20 year alliance basically cuz he didn't like the look on the face of the hired thug but now he's homies with the guy who ultimately set his killing in motion. Then the Clay bullshit like Chick said. All of a sudden the SOA are a fucking court of law now? And the crucifix thing. I mean, who DIDN'T see some shit like that coming? You had to know he was going to hurt SOMEONE with it. Plus I thought his little quote of ''Sons Live, Redwood Bleeds'' was fucking convuluted and stupid. I realize that otto has done a lot of shit for the club and lost ALOT, but he's never really portrayed as so vindictive and hateful. Same with Jax and Tara. Both just becoming straight hateful. I can't believe she woke up the fucking baby because she was ''bored'' I guess. At the end of last season and beginning of this one, I felt kind of bad for Tara, now I'm losing pretty much all feeling for her other than hating the bitch. Also, in line with something else Chick said, are we supposed to believe that Tara made it through fucking medical school and is now a surgeon? I mean she fucking saves the lives of infants. She was always meant to be perceived as intelligent but also caring and thoughtful about her own actions as well as the actions of those around her. Now they've raped that version, and replaced it with a weed smoking, criminal loving, ass beating just overall hateful and stupid white trash bitch. And they act like we're supposed to be dumb enough at this point with all the character changes, not just Tara, to watch and be like ''Oh man that's great, deep writing derp''. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This show is no longer really an example or good writing/storytelling. It's some asshole named Kurt Sutter making shit up as he goes, forgetting about or almost totally discounting the events of previous seasons as well as the previous perceptions of several well loved characters, and just seeing how far he can push his audience until we completely suspend disbelief and just shovel it down like he obviously wants us to. I'm really starting to agree that this piece of shit show has jumped the shark. And I HATE saying that because this USED to be one of the best shows on TV, up there with Breaking Bad for me at least in terms of enjoyment/anticipation. As chick said above me, the finale better have a really fucking good pay off and make some serious fucking logical sense. Otherwise I am done being treated like an idiot by Kurt Sutter for another very hyped but ultimately lame/ridiculous season. And Clay better fucking die.
Sons live, redwoods bleed - so the RICO case will be gone, but now new problems will rise that could kill the club (or Jax/Tara).
So I guess this means more Otto? Or Tara is seriously fucked when it comes time to accept that job offer or she gets her license taken away.
Tara was never really a favorite character of mine, but I did have respect for her and didn't think she was a character that deserved so much hate. Now, though...yeah, I'm not very fond of her. She and Jax have let the power get to their heads and neither one is thinking properly. It's annoying.
I wonder if Sutter is bringing the plot all over the place because he has now realized he will never win awards and be adored by critics like Mad Men? I know he has complained about this in the past and even talked shit about Matthew Weiner because of it. I'm curious if there is a direct correlation.
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 17, 2012, 07:51 PM
Tara was never really a favorite character of mine, but I did have respect for her melons.
fixed. i've let my attraction for her get in the way for years, but now i'm realizing her character is pretty crappy. nowhere near as bad as Lori was though.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Nov 17, 2012, 08:11 PM
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 17, 2012, 07:51 PM
Tara was never really a favorite character of mine, but I did have respect for her melons.
fixed. i've let my attraction for her get in the way for years, but now i'm realizing her character is pretty crappy. nowhere near as bad as Lori was though.
Aren't you funny?
I seriously never notice another woman's boobs unless they are abnormally gigantic. My brother is always pointing out other women's boobs to me and I always say something along the lines of "I didn't notice. I wasn't looking at her chest". Ah, men. They're interesting creatures!
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 08, 2012, 07:43 AM
I don't know how I feel about the Otto/Tara scene, but I definitely felt uncomfortable. I read Warming Glow's review and it was pretty harsh. The review stated that it was the Otto/Tara scene when SOA jumped the shark. Did anyone else think it jumped the shark at that moment? Because I sure as hell didn't. Maybe I'm biased because I like this show too much.
Personally, I never took to Tara's character. Maybe I just have a problem with Maggie Siff... She's so bland and I don't find her to be all that attractive. With that being said, these scenes with Otto are pretty intriguing to me so I wouldn't say that they've jumped the shark necessarily. If anything I find myself more interested in Tara now because of them. But yes, uncomfortable, to say the least.
This is getting so dumb. Why does Jax need all this fucking evidence against Clay? This episode was all over the place and just generally ridiculous in a lot of parts.
Yeah, I'm really getting sick of the "We need evidence" plot line. It makes no sense in the logic of the show. I guess they just need another reason to keep Clay's life in the balance and pick on Juice.
As silly as the show is getting, it's still got its entertainment factor.
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 25, 2012, 08:45 AM
it's still got its entertainment factor.
definitely, despite its obvious flaws I still have to tune in and enjoy watching. we'll see how the last couple episodes play out.
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/11/the-saddest-moment-of-this-season-of-sons-of-anarchy-happened-off-screen/ (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/11/the-saddest-moment-of-this-season-of-sons-of-anarchy-happened-off-screen/)
This made me cry. RIP Opie--I'll always love you!!!
That was great.
Very tense episode.
I really hope the season finale will deliver the goods. Very excited to see what's gonna happen.
At least they made a decent excuse to keep Clay alive. And I'm really looking forward to seeing where this Donal Logue US Marshal character is going.
We definitely needed this episode to keep us watching. Some of it is actually starting to make logical sense within the show's universe. Hopefully the season finale will rock our socks off.
Side note: Was everyone PMSing in this episode? A lot more tears than I'm used to and Jax nostril flares.
saw on uproxx that Donal Logue pretty much confirmed he's on SoA for the long haul.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Nov 29, 2012, 07:07 PM
saw on uproxx that Donal Logue pretty much confirmed he's on SoA for the long haul.
I'm sure he's gonna be a part of the cliffhanger that will finish this season.
Quinn FTW!
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Satisfying final with a bunch of loose ends to build on further.
The scene with Otto was messed up. What a crazy fuck.
Dog fight scene made my heart bleed. Loved that Tig saved the wounded one.
And the showdown with Pope had my heart racing. For a minute I was actually in doubt whether or not Jax was serious about giving up Tig.
And fuck Gemma. I wanna see her die. Also, even though Clay deserved what happened, that scene was fucking rough!
loved this seasons ending
Otto fooling , Jax doing some GTA mission type shit to save Tig and the actor who plays that cop( his acting was awesome) who came to get Clay and then Tara .
cant wait for the next season
and Nero is awesome ..a good guy
For an up and down season, Sutter managed to keep me interested for another year. The season finale was suspenseful, shocking and left a lot of loose ends to tie up for the coming season.
The dog fighting scene was rough, but Tig keeping the wounded dog was sweet and made me happy Jax had another plan concerning Pope, which I was hoping for. Glad to see Pope got what he deserved. Two deaths avenged.
Oh, and Gemma is just a fucking horrible person. I feel awful for Tara.
I was satisfied with that. Definitely didn't think that was possible about a month ago.
Coulda used more Donal Logue, but I'm guessing he's a big villain next season so it was a pretty cool ploy to introduce him this season and then have him carry over. Unless they kill him off 10 minutes into the 6th season, which wouldn't surprise me.
Finally caught up on the DVR. the season ending was pretty good, cant say i didnt see Tara going to jail before hand. I think she underestimated just how evil Gemma is. I have a feeling Clay will find a way to survive. I really cant wait to see how this Marshall character is going to develop. Seems as though hes got nothing to lose and he'll die to hurt the club. This season wasnt my favorite but the finale was probably my favorite. I thought Tig was dead for sure. thought Jax was going to get revenge for Opie.
all i can say is wow and that i wish i had a time machine to go next september
That's it. I'm done with this piece of shit excuse for a tv show. Fuck Kurt Sutter for causing me to waste my time for 5 fucking seasons. I will keep up with the online highlights next season just to see if Gemma finally fucking dies, but I won't continue to actually watch. He;s ruined Jax and Tara as characters. And he thinks that us viewers are so stupid that we should actually buy his lame convoluted storylines as to why Clay is alive and why Gemma is still alive as well, or at least why she isn't alone and broken without her family like she deserves. I always thought that the scene in the early seasons when Gemma gets raped was one of the most heartwrenching moments and I actually felt bad for her. Now I realize that she deserved it for being the piece of garbage she's always been. Hopefully something similar or worse will happen to her next season over and over.
Kim Dickens as Collette. I'm in.
Anyway, I was kind of uninterested in this episode suprisingly. Action happened, stories progressed, Donal Logue was cool, but maybe just every show feels like a letdown while Breaking Bad is still on the air.
I actually enjoyed the premiere. Breaking Bad has really spoiled viewers as far as great television goes. At this point everything is better than Dexter, and the fact that SOA writers actually give a shit about their show makes me happy.
Looks like we both just can't get over how horrendous Dexter has gotten.
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THE. FUCKING. WORST.
Oh Jesus, just terrible.
On topic, if Happy was babysitting, that probably never would've happened.
That's because Happy isn't an idiot like Hannah McKay and every other character on Dexter.
I really do like Happy's character. I hope he gets more screen time this season.
Fucking hell...
What a great comeback year. That death was brutal. And poor Juicy, he's fucked for next season.
And they keep showing that homeless woman with the cart! What's the deal?
Juice needs to die.
Gemma REALLY needs to die.
Homeless woman...Angel of Death?
I'm still confused as to why Juice killed Roosevelt. Last night's episode made me cry and I haven't cried since Opie died. What a brutal way to go.
I wonder if CCH Pounder will be around for next season? I loved her character and my God was she fucking brilliant in last night's episode. She gave me goosebumps during her scene with Jax.
One of my favorite feminist bloggers actually wrote a piece on the Nation about how she was disgusted with Tara's death and how it relates to women in TV and their impending deaths. While I do think she makes valid points, I have to disagree with her regarding Sons of Anarchy. It's based off Hamlet and the last time I read the play, everyone in Hamlet pretty much dies which is what the show is based off. Sometimes social justice is irritating just because it disregards artistic freedom. The cons of being a liberal. It sucks that Tara died, but it was necessary to move the story forward. Here's the article if anyone is interested in reading it: http://www.thenation.com/blog/177568/manic-pixie-dead-girl-why-im-done-tv-shows# (http://www.thenation.com/blog/177568/manic-pixie-dead-girl-why-im-done-tv-shows#)
CCH Pounder has to be around next year, I would think. No way this ending just wraps things up for her character. Also, I'm with you on Juice. I guess it's good that I'm anticipating next season, but good god, I need some incite into Juice's motivation. Is he basically saying "Fuck it" as far as being a member of SAMCRO is concerned?
Dead Pixie Manic Girl? Interesting nickname. Her points are valid, but yeah... a little irritating. Goddamn liberals (*I'm a liberal*). She should watch Game of Thrones where some female characters are total bosses.
And the angel of death? That's right, bad shit always does happen whenever we get a glimpse of her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boeAMyeQa1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boeAMyeQa1o)
cant wait for this..
Sutter better pull out all the stops this season or I'm going to be very pissed. I don't want another Dexter here.
Thoughts on the finale?
I didnt hate it. it ended the way it should
Yeah, I thought it was a solid, entertaining final season and final episode. Not sure why Sutter decided to end it with a Jesus pose, but I liked how everything got tied up. No loose ends.
I agree. Sutter was heavy handed with the finale, but when does he skimp out on symbolism?
the" FX" were horrible at the end of the episode
I literally laughed out loud
Yea those crows looked pretty shitty.
ruined the entire 7 seasons