Poll
Question:
If you only got to hear one more album from deftones,which one would you choose:
Option 1: Eros
Option 2: Gore
(allegedly, there's only vocals on half of the eros songs, half of the material is instrumental cause of chi's accident)
The two full songs heard from Eros (Melanie and Smile) weren't that interesting. The jam that was in those promo videos sounded like it might have been something great but who knows?
KNY is by far the most progressive and clearly the album they put the most creative effort into. Hoping that Gore takes that to the next level.
apparently eros was much of a stef record (according to chino) and and gore is suppose to be a chino/sergio record (according to stef) which makes me more curious of eros. i mean snw,d.e and kny are pretty much chino records so i guess i'm more interested in eros just for a change.
that, and the fact that i love melanie and smile. p/t wasn't that great imo.
Right now I'm more focused on Gore obviously because it's about to drop. But I'm still thinking about Eros getting released someday. I'm pretty sure this album will feel like nothing we'll ever hear again from the band with the direction they have taken since then.
Melanie sounds great, and I absolutely love Smile. But I choose Gore, simply because it'll be a finished album. I'm not much a fan of instrumental music, even if I love it, it doesn't quite catch me as much as a song with great vocals and lyrics. So I feel like I'd rather have Gore, as a whole album, than an album that's only half done, vocally at least.
That said, like everyone else, I do hope we get to hear Eros one day.
I voted Gore but immediately regretted it, I would like to hear some more Chi if it was the last album they ever released.
Eros, as it's the last one on which Chi contributed !
And Smile is fucking awesome, so.........
gore is just nothing.
Some of you would rather have a half-finished collection of six completed songs over an entirely finished and ready-for-release new album?
Quote from: NYRexall on Feb 29, 2016, 05:14 AM
Some of you would rather have a half-finished collection of six completed songs over an entirely finished and ready-for-release new album?
The last music Chi worked on, music that the band were very excited about and were calling weird and experimental. Surely you can understand why people would want to hear that?
Quote from: NYRexall on Feb 29, 2016, 05:14 AM
Some Majority of you would rather have a half-finished collection of six completed songs over an entirely finished and ready-for-release new album?
fixed it for you
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Feb 28, 2016, 08:45 PM
KNY is by far the most progressive and clearly the album they put the most creative effort into. Hoping that Gore takes that to the next level.
yes
Quote from: NYRexall on Feb 29, 2016, 05:14 AM
Some of you would rather have a half-finished collection of six completed songs over an entirely finished and ready-for-release new album?
+1
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 29, 2016, 11:16 AM
Quote from: NYRexall on Feb 29, 2016, 05:14 AM
Some Majority of you would rather have a half-finished collection of six completed songs over an entirely finished and ready-for-release new album?
fixed it for you
lol guess I'll be enjoying that genre-bending new album while the rest are holding their breath for Eros then
Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 29, 2016, 06:12 AM
Quote from: NYRexall on Feb 29, 2016, 05:14 AM
Some of you would rather have a half-finished collection of six completed songs over an entirely finished and ready-for-release new album?
The last music Chi worked on, music that the band were very excited about and were calling weird and experimental. Surely you can understand why people would want to hear that?
Sure I can understand it. I want it just as much as anyone else, really. But I wouldn't let it stop me from enjoying a brand new album that's only weeks from release and is being defined by the band as heady and more technical than past efforts.
Didn't Chino say back around KNY's release that they'd release at least one more record before they'd seriously consider finishing/releasing Eros?
Gore...Eros...christ, they have virtually the same four letters and everything. I think it will happen before the proper follow-up to Gore in the next five years
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 01, 2016, 01:27 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 29, 2016, 06:12 AM
Quote from: NYRexall on Feb 29, 2016, 05:14 AM
Some of you would rather have a half-finished collection of six completed songs over an entirely finished and ready-for-release new album?
The last music Chi worked on, music that the band were very excited about and were calling weird and experimental. Surely you can understand why people would want to hear that?
Sure I can understand it. I want it just as much as anyone else, really. But I wouldn't let it stop me from enjoying a brand new album that's only weeks from release and is being defined by the band as heady and more technical than past efforts.
Didn't Chino say back around KNY's release that they'd release at least one more record before they'd seriously consider finishing/releasing Eros?
Gore...Eros...christ, they have virtually the same four letters and everything. I think it will happen before the proper follow-up to Gore in the next five years
I wouldn't hold my breath that we get to hear it any time soon. Maybe one day, but they don't even all have the same answer to that question, so I wouldn't be surprised if we never even got to hear it. Plus are there any restrictions because of the music label or whatever? Chino released Smile, and it got taken down.
The band has stated several times that it will eventually be released tho. When Chi passed away, Chino said the chances of it being released were greater than ever. I think the label yanked Smile because they're harvesting the album for a proper release, and they know it's something important that fans will come out in droves for. It's fucking blood money on one hand, but if the band and their fans are okay with its release, then I'd say it's fair game.
I would pick Eros even though we've only heard 2 complete songs (Melanie and Smile) and the part of the intro song of the Eros's videos.
I consider Smile to be one of the greatest, if not the single greatest, Deftones song of all time. I love the direction that album seemed like it was going to take. I got this vibe that it was a combination of SNW and ST, which happen to be my two favorite albums of theirs by far. So yeah, I'm definitely going with Eros. Not even a second thought or hesitation of any kind.
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 29, 2016, 03:51 AM
Eros, as it's the last one on which Chi contributed !
And Smile is fucking awesome, so.........
My reasoning too.
I voted for Gore, but believe me I would love to hear Eros. I just think that its a super difficult situation for the band members. I mean that was their best friend, and a huge loss for them. It just seems like they want to move on from the album.
Eros because of Chi for sure. Definitely looking forward to gore tho.
Probably Eros.. We don't know how good Gore is yet.
Quote from: Phantasmagoria on Mar 02, 2016, 06:48 PM
Probably Eros.. We don't know how good Gore is yet.
We don't know how good Eros is, either
I'd have to choose Eros. Prayers/Triangles is the 2nd worst single I've heard from the Deftones & Smile is one of my favorite songs ever, possibly my favorite.
Willing to bet that when Eros is finally released, it won't be half as good as people think it will be
well if you are a gore-enthusiast - maybe gore won't be half as good as you think it will be. just saying
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
Eros simply because of Chi. But I really want both.
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 02, 2016, 09:21 PM
Willing to bet that when Eros is finally released, it won't be half as good as people think it will be
I'm willing to bet it will be quite a bit better than Gore.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 03, 2016, 11:56 AM
well if you are a gore-enthusiast - maybe gore won't be half as good as you think it will be. just saying
Willing to bet it's 100% better than half an album we don't have at all
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Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 02, 2016, 09:21 PM
Willing to bet that when Eros is finally released, it won't be half as good as people think it will be
I'm willing to bet it will be quite a bit better than Gore.
LoL based on that one song you heard from Gore, right?
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 04, 2016, 01:46 AM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
same old, same old...
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 04, 2016, 01:48 AM
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 04, 2016, 01:46 AM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
same old, same old...
I don't remember KNY, DE or even SNW a decade back getting nearly this much disdain in the run-up. I could understand the skepticism if this were a new record by some now-shit band like Smashing Pumpkins or Jane's Addiction, but ffs you'd think this was going to be a fucking dubstep album with a Nikki Minaj duet the way people are acting..
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 04, 2016, 01:46 AM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
Please quote the part where I discredited the album. What I said, quite clearly, is that the songs we've heard from one album are, in my opinion, better than the one we've heard from the other album.
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Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
Please quote the part where I discredited the album. What I said, quite clearly, is that the songs we've heard from one album are, in my opinion, better than the one we've heard from the other album.
I just find it hilarious how you're holding up Eros -- all two songs we've heard that *might* actually be on it one day -- as this lost classic and then riding me for being excited about the album that's coming out next month. I actually laughed out loud when I read that part when you said 'Smile' was their greatest song ever, but hey...that's your opinion and it's just whatever to me.
In the end, I don't give a fuck whether you buy Gore or not. Neither does the band, I'm willing to bet.
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 04, 2016, 07:43 AM
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Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
Please quote the part where I discredited the album. What I said, quite clearly, is that the songs we've heard from one album are, in my opinion, better than the one we've heard from the other album.
I just find it hilarious how you're holding up Eros -- all two songs we've heard that *might* actually be on it one day -- as this lost classic and then riding me for being excited about the album that's coming out next month. I actually laughed out loud when I read that part when you said 'Smile' was their greatest song ever, but hey...that's your opinion and it's just whatever to me.
In the end, I don't give a fuck whether you buy Gore or not. Neither does the band, I'm willing to bet.
Let's keep things in check.
1. Eros was the last record Chi played on and he played guitar on it instead of bass for some tracks (Chino on bass).
2. The Eros clips built a good deal more hype than anything Gore related (and I cannot wait for Gore). The intro music clip that began their videos was darker than anything I've heard them play since.
3. The band members were openly calling it a weird and spacey record. Steph wanted to release it when Diamond Eyes came out so clearly he had a large creative output on it. The clips acasually reminded me of Terry Date era Deftones.
So yeah, Eros is way more hyped.
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Mar 04, 2016, 11:59 AM
1. Eros was the last record Chi played on and he played guitar on it instead of bass for some tracks (Chino on bass).
2. The Eros clips built a good deal more hype than anything Gore related (and I cannot wait for Gore). The intro music clip that began their videos was darker than anything I've heard them play since.
3. The band members were openly calling it a weird and spacey record. Steph wanted to release it when Diamond Eyes came out so clearly he had a large creative output on it. The clips acasually reminded me of Terry Date era Deftones.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/Kermit_3b29b2_117424_zpsy2l0npkx.gif)
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 04, 2016, 01:37 AM
Quote from: Entombed on Mar 03, 2016, 11:18 PM
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 02, 2016, 09:21 PM
Willing to bet that when Eros is finally released, it won't be half as good as people think it will be
I'm willing to bet it will be quite a bit better than Gore.
LoL based on that one song you heard from Gore, right?
Based on what I have heard from Eros, interviews around that time about the direction of the music, Prayers/Triangles sucking a fat one, Carpenter seeming rather uninterested in the album, and that Chi was still in the band back then. That, on top of how shitty the production of Prayers/Triangles is (including the overwhelmingly obvious use of auto-tune on the track), I'd bet Eros is quite a bit better. That, and it's not like they're coming off of the best album either. KNY had some very strong tracks, but it's not seamless either (and the production was pretty meh). I'll also mention that the mixing issues the band had on this album decrease the amount of confidence I have in it turning out as well. Seems like an album surrounded by issues between band mates, producers, mixers, really everyone involved.
But sure, you can just say "LoL based on that one song you heard from Gore, right?"
OK, we're going round in circles here. It doesn't matter. We get to hear Gore in just over a month, hopefully we'll one day hear Eros. It's about what one you'd choose if you can only have one. Eros sounds like an experimental, dark, maybe guitar-driven album based on the interviews, and some people, especially since Steph's recent interview, think that the band's missing something from their last two albums, and think maybe Chino having too much control compared to Steph might be the culprit. So obviously you're going to want to hear Eros more.
In the end, who cares? You're both making the same arguments for your own decisions and then calling out the other for doing the same thing. Chill out, folks.
I can agree with that. Nobody is truly "right" when it comes to which album they want to hear more. I'm personally a bit pessimistic when it comes to the new album for a medley of reasons, but I still hope it's decent. No matter what, I still look forward to it.
Quote from: Entombed on Mar 04, 2016, 09:04 PM
I can agree with that. Nobody is truly "right" when it comes to which album they want to hear more. I'm personally a bit pessimistic when it comes to the new album for a medley of reasons, but I still hope it's decent. No matter what, I still look forward to it.
My thoughts exactly. My only issue is the people who claim that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a fake fan, or has an immature taste in music or some other pretentious bullshit. That shit has to stop.
For me, it has nothing to do with who is real or fake. It's just a difference of opinion/taste. All in all, we love the Deftones, but still have our preferences.
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Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM
Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
Please quote the part where I discredited the album. What I said, quite clearly, is that the songs we've heard from one album are, in my opinion, better than the one we've heard from the other album.
I just find it hilarious how you're holding up Eros -- all two songs we've heard that *might* actually be on it one day -- as this lost classic and then riding me for being excited about the album that's coming out next month. I actually laughed out loud when I read that part when you said 'Smile' was their greatest song ever, but hey...that's your opinion and it's just whatever to me.
In the end, I don't give a fuck whether you buy Gore or not. Neither does the band, I'm willing to bet.
Let's keep things in check.
1. Eros was the last record Chi played on and he played guitar on it instead of bass for some tracks (Chino on bass).
2. The Eros clips built a good deal more hype than anything Gore related (and I cannot wait for Gore). The intro music clip that began their videos was darker than anything I've heard them play since.
3. The band members were openly calling it a weird and spacey record. Steph wanted to release it when Diamond Eyes came out so clearly he had a large creative output on it. The clips acasually reminded me of Terry Date era Deftones.
So yeah, Eros is way more hyped.
Like I've stated many times before, I want Eros too. Fuck yea I'm stoked for that shit, especially since the band says it WILL get released one day.
One day. But, in a few weeks, we'll have an entirely new Deftones album that's going to be spacey and weird of its own accord, so says the band. I'm looking forward to
that; not some half-finished album from eight years ago that will eventually be released when the band is ready.
And I know this might piss a lot of people off, but Chi is hardly a selling point of Eros for me. As cool as he was, Sergio blows him away, live and on record. The bass in their songs since DE has been way more intricate and pronounced than the first five records. That's not a slight on Chi or a discredit to his legacy in any way; I just think Sergio is the better bass player when it comes to this band.
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 04, 2016, 11:52 PM
Like I've stated many times before, I want Eros too. Fuck yea I'm stoked for that shit, especially since the band says it WILL get released one day.
One day. But, in a few weeks, we'll have an entirely new Deftones album that's going to be spacey and weird of its own accord, so says the band. I'm looking forward to that; not some half-finished album from eight years ago that will eventually be released when the band is ready.
And I know this might piss a lot of people off, but Chi is hardly a selling point of Eros for me. As cool as he was, Sergio blows him away, live and on record. The bass in their songs since DE has been way more intricate and pronounced than the first five records. That's not a slight on Chi or a discredit to his legacy in any way; I just think Sergio is the better bass player when it comes to this band.
I think we are all hyped for Eros. Honestly, I think that having this topic at that time is kind of wrong. It only tells us who is optimistic and who is pessimistic about Gore. Of course, since a lot of people have been disappointed with the recent records, while Eros, Eros got all the myth. And I'm bloody excited about listening to Eros, maybe even more than Gore, but I voted Gore, because I feel like right now we should be focused on Gore. Because Eros is not going to come anytime soon. But when the day comes, I'll be fucking thrived to hear some "new Chi-era Deftones".
I think the promotion (or rather, the lack of promotion) for Gore is terrible, we've only had a few teasers and a single for a month to listen to, with a couple of interviews (a lot of other bands get much more). The last days on this forum have been terrible, users bitching about eatch other for almost nothing... It wasn't like this when Prayers/Triangles was just released because we had something serious to discuss, wether we liked the song or not. So all I can think of now, is that the next single cannot come soon enough. At least we won't have to argue over songs that we haven't even listened to yet.
I think the whole reason we're bickering is because there's been virtually no promotion for the album and people are bored waiting for a new single/Apr. 8 to arrive
Do I really care of someone wants Eros > Gore or if people think KNY is a shit album? lol nah..
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Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
Please quote the part where I discredited the album. What I said, quite clearly, is that the songs we've heard from one album are, in my opinion, better than the one we've heard from the other album.
@NYrexall:
"A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.[1]
The so-called typical "attacking a straw man" argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition by covertly replacing it with a different proposition (i.e. "stand up a straw man") and then to refute or defeat that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the original proposition.[2][3]"
34 days until gore, nuff said
Quote from: Yoi Yes Kokan on Mar 05, 2016, 03:12 PM
34 days until gore, nuff said
And I'm fucking dying. I don't know if I can hold out that long!
Also, I hope they announce more tour dates soon. There's a huge gap for all of April. I'm wondering if that's to give the guys the month of release off to prepare for the long tour schedule ahead or if they're going to fit more dates in there.
Because, as it stands, they're not coming anywhere near the mid-atlantic states (I live in Maryland). It's just the south and southeast states in March and May, then Europe in June.
I just hope I get a Deftones show during the summer this year... They always end up coming around me in the fall or winter, but I want a warm Tones concert for once! I haven't been to a Deftones concert in warm weather in like 5 years!
word, you said it. they're missing all the good places to play shows, wheres seattle, denver, portland, pheonix, etc.. I'm a west coast guy so you know. plus I'd love to go to denver and grab some legal herb while I'm there.
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Yes, and I can definitely say that the 2 and a half songs we've heard from Eros are all better than the one we've heard from Gore.
lol It amazes me how some of you can discredit an entire album that's still a month away based on one song, and still call yourself fans of the band.
Please quote the part where I discredited the album. What I said, quite clearly, is that the songs we've heard from one album are, in my opinion, better than the one we've heard from the other album.
@NYrexall:
"A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.[1]
The so-called typical "attacking a straw man" argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition by covertly replacing it with a different proposition (i.e. "stand up a straw man") and then to refute or defeat that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the original proposition.[2][3]"
Didn't you just post this exact same lame response in the Gore thread?
Funny that you don't seem to agree with what I'm saying, and yet you can't post anything to discredit it. I wonder why that is?
Oh, so you've got accusations of straw man arguments in multiple threads? why is that you think?
This is a forum Deftones, granted we're are all interested in anything that deftones have to release- that goes without saying.
the question here though is, based on the little material we have so far - what we've read and heard - which one are we the most interested in.
There's noone here who discredit an entire album because of one song,it's just that what we know about eros and heard from it, eros in terms of sound and production sounds more interesting according to some of us.
Nor has anyone said "they're finished" or "That 30-second Gore clip sounded like fucking ass on my computer speakers" or "saw everyone shitting on P/T for sounding too much like Deftones" - you made that up in your head.all of it.
you make up imaginary members who say made up things - and then you take a stab at try to start debates with those imaginary people with their fictitious opinions.
Anyway,what did you think of doomed user live version? genre bending enough for you? i thought it sounded staright forward and pretty cool. verse riff reminded me of diamond Eyes, but doomed user sounded more cocky and had a lot more attitude i think. can't wait for the studio version of that one
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yet you can't post anything to discredit it
Do you even read
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yet you can't post anything to discredit it
Do you even read
Sharing Lungs when I'm on the toilet
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 06, 2016, 11:09 AM
This is a forum Deftones, granted we're are all interested in anything that deftones have to release- that goes without saying.
the question here though is, based on the little material we have so far - what we've read and heard - which one are we the most interested in.
There's noone here who discredit an entire album because of one song,it's just that what we know about eros and heard from it, eros in terms of sound and production sounds more interesting according to some of us.
There's only that one song though...Smile...that you can base the sound and production off of. Melanie is just a live version floating around. If you want to base the entire Eros album off one leaked song and feel it's going to sound better than the one studio song we've heard off Gore, so be it. It just seems ridiculous to me. But to each their own, I guess
QuoteNor has anyone said "they're finished" or "That 30-second Gore clip sounded like fucking ass on my computer speakers" or "saw everyone shitting on P/T for sounding too much like Deftones" - you made that up in your head.all of it.
Oh jeez
I know nobody said this. I was being hypothetical. Also -- and its a little late to use this now but whatever -- a lot of Deftones fans on ThePRP and other sites were the ones basing their entire opinion of Gore off the trailer clips and P/T. So I think when I made those statements, it was factoring in those comments as well. But it did seem like a lot of people here were saying that the album was going to be shit based on their opinion of P/T
Quoteyou make up imaginary members who say made up things - and then you take a stab at try to start debates with those imaginary people with their fictitious opinions.
See above.
QuoteAnyway,what did you think of doomed user live version? genre bending enough for you? i thought it sounded staright forward and pretty cool. verse riff reminded me of diamond Eyes, but doomed user sounded more cocky and had a lot more attitude i think. can't wait for the studio version of that one
I haven't listened to it. Nor have I listened to P/T, because I want to save all 11 songs for the day the album is released and I can hear everything as a whole. From what I've read here, it's a pretty aggressive song but Chino was having an off-night vocally. So no way I would make a judgement call based on that. I'm sure it will sound much better on the album.
Quote from: NYRexall on Mar 07, 2016, 02:14 AM
There's only that one song though...Smile...that you can base the sound and production off of. Melanie is just a live version floating around. If you want to base the entire Eros album off one leaked song and feel it's going to sound better than the one studio song we've heard off Gore, so be it. It just seems ridiculous to me. But to each their own, I guess
Do even know what you're saying? Do you know where you're saying it? This is literally a thread about picking between two albums we've heard extremely little of. That is exactly what the point of this thread is; to judge the albums based only on the very little we've heard of them.
How is believing Eros might be better based on the one released studio song and one live song any less ridiciulous than believing Gore might be better based on the one released studio song and one live song? Here's a hint, it's not. They're both fucking ridiculous, it's all stupid. Neither answer is "right." We're just bullshitting here waiting for new information. We're all having fun, and you're trying to say how everyone else is wrong because they don't think like you. Stop.
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Oh jeez
I know nobody said this. I was being hypothetical. Also -- and its a little late to use this now but whatever -- a lot of Deftones fans on ThePRP and other sites were the ones basing their entire opinion of Gore off the trailer clips and P/T. So I think when I made those statements, it was factoring in those comments as well. But it did seem like a lot of people here were saying that the album was going to be shit based on their opinion of P/T
No, you weren't being hypothetical. You were making shit up. Nobody here said any of those things.
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I haven't listened to it. Nor have I listened to P/T, because I want to save all 11 songs for the day the album is released and I can hear everything as a whole. From what I've read here, it's a pretty aggressive song but Chino was having an off-night vocally. So no way I would make a judgement call based on that. I'm sure it will sound much better on the album.
Now that we're hopefully done with all the unpleasantries and you're going to stop telling everyone else how they're not as right as you, we can talk about real shit.
The more I think about it, and of course I know this is premature, but I feel like they chose the perfect two songs to release for Gore. I have NO information on any of the other songs, but the song choices are nonetheless very effective. Start out with a safe radio-friendly song like P/T to appease the fans who favor that aspect of the band's sound, and now the more aggressive "old school" Deftones style song to appease that side of the fanbase.
What if you heard Eros and it didn't live up to your expectations? I'm pretty sure Chino said that album would have been the end of Deftones which I can believe because it sounds depressing from what I've heard, but a lot of you would like that probably.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 07, 2016, 04:37 AM
Do even know what you're saying? Do you know where you're saying it? This is literally a thread about picking between two albums we've heard extremely little of. That is exactly what the point of this thread is; to judge the albums based only on the very little we've heard of them.
And sooooo then the point of this thread is...?
QuoteHow is believing Eros might be better based on the one released studio song and one live song any less ridiciulous than believing Gore might be better based on the one released studio song and one live song? Here's a hint, it's not. They're both fucking ridiculous, it's all stupid. Neither answer is "right." We're just bullshitting here waiting for new information. We're all having fun, and you're trying to say how everyone else is wrong because they don't think like you. Stop.
No, YOU fucking stop.
I can play this game, too: where did I EVER SAY others were wrong because they don't share the same opinion as me? Do YOU even know what you're talking about? No, I don't think you do. I said trying to compare two completely different albums based on ONE studio track from each SEEMED pretty ridiculous, but TO EACH THEIR OWN.
To each their own. As in, whatever. Who cares. You have your opinion, I have mine.
Have I simplified this shit for you enough, or would you like to continue the pissing contest while we wait out this next month? I'm good either way.
QuoteNo, you weren't being hypothetical. You were making shit up. Nobody here said any of those things
No, I'm sure I was being hypothetical ;D
Quote from: el perro on Mar 07, 2016, 05:42 AM
What if you heard Eros and it didn't live up to your expectations? I'm pretty sure Chino said that album would have been the end of Deftones which I can believe because it sounds depressing from what I've heard, but a lot of you would like that probably.
Are you sure you're not thinking of Saturday Night Wrist? I don't recall him ever saying something like that about Eros.
yeah, he didn't. people need to get their heads out of their asses
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Quote from: el perro on Mar 07, 2016, 05:42 AM
What if you heard Eros and it didn't live up to your expectations? I'm pretty sure Chino said that album would have been the end of Deftones which I can believe because it sounds depressing from what I've heard, but a lot of you would like that probably.
Are you sure you're not thinking of Saturday Night Wrist? I don't recall him ever saying something like that about Eros.
chino has been very inconsistent with his opinions about eros. sometimes it's great, sometimes it isn't. but it's true...in an interview with chino some years ago, they talked about how snw was a bad time for the band and that the end product wasn't good enough.that if they didn't come up with better material - they couldn't continue the band. chino said that unless the album after snw wasn't a real boost back to form,people would stop caring and that would mean the end of deftones. he said something like "honestly... i don't think eros was that record"
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Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 07, 2016, 06:23 AM
Quote from: el perro on Mar 07, 2016, 05:42 AM
What if you heard Eros and it didn't live up to your expectations? I'm pretty sure Chino said that album would have been the end of Deftones which I can believe because it sounds depressing from what I've heard, but a lot of you would like that probably.
I'm pretty sure it was about Eros because he said it around the release of Diamond Eyes and Chi was in a com
Are you sure you're not thinking of Saturday Night Wrist? I don't recall him ever saying something like that about Eros.
chino has been very inconsistent with his opinions about eros. sometimes it's great, sometimes it isn't. but it's true...in an interview with chino some years ago, they talked about how snw was a bad time for the band and that the end product wasn't good enough.that if they didn't come up with better material - they couldn't continue the band. chino said that unless the album after snw wasn't a real boost back to form,people would stop caring and that would mean the end of deftones. he said something like "honestly... i don't think eros was that record"
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 07, 2016, 09:54 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 07, 2016, 06:23 AM
Quote from: el perro on Mar 07, 2016, 05:42 AM
What if you heard Eros and it didn't live up to your expectations? I'm pretty sure Chino said that album would have been the end of Deftones which I can believe because it sounds depressing from what I've heard, but a lot of you would like that probably.
Are you sure you're not thinking of Saturday Night Wrist? I don't recall him ever saying something like that about Eros.
chino has been very inconsistent with his opinions about eros. sometimes it's great, sometimes it isn't. but it's true...in an interview with chino some years ago, they talked about how snw was a bad time for the band and that the end product wasn't good enough.that if they didn't come up with better material - they couldn't continue the band. chino said that unless the album after snw wasn't a real boost back to form,people would stop caring and that would mean the end of deftones. he said something like "honestly... i don't think eros was that record"
I'm sure it was about Eros because I remember him saying how Diamond Eyes was a more optimistic record and Chi's crash had brought the band closer together.