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Title: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Feb 24, 2018, 12:12 AM
Ok, this may go nowhere but over the past couple of weeks, I've started to think a lot about the next record.

I think in some ways, this may be the strangest point in their whole career. Critically and commercially, they're in a good moment. They've reached a point where everyone respects the hell out of them. Bands love them. Rock press loves them. Even the indie critics have to give them some credit. They may not be as big as they were on White Pony but Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan were very significant in refreshing the support that had perhaps dwindled during the 'dark days'. Over here in the the UK for example, they're back playing 10,000+ capacity venues in London (Wembley Arena in 2016, Alexandra Palace in 2017) after they dropped down during SNW. Gore was very much a critical and commercial success and I think they're in pretty good form live right now.

At the same time, Gore was a major dividing point among fans. Some (slightly insane people) hate it. Some had a pretty lukewarm reaction to it. Nowhere near as many people are people are singing its praises in the triumphant manner they were with the previous two records. Perhaps more importantly, Stef's admission about his initial reluctance to Gore is bound to form part of the coverage for the next release. If his work is clearly present, that will get spun in a number of ways. If it isn't, then the same. Except possibly bigger.

As such, I think the build up to the next album will be the most interesting it's been in quite a while. The usual questions about musical direction aside, there will be a more definitive focus on Stef's contribution. Production, at least for fans, may form a bigger part of it too, after the problems with Matt Hyde on Gore.

So:

What would you like to see from the next album?

What do you think we'll get from the next album?

Who would you like to produce it?

What rough release date are you expecting?

I realise there may only be about three people still reading this forum but I'll post it anyway. Also if you're a "KOI NO YOKAN IS THR BEST DEAFTONES ALBUM EVA, GORE SUX" type, there is a special place on the internet for you called the Deftones subreddit. Go post there instead.



EDIT (Vesanic):

Writing sessions pictures 2018 + Chino interview 2018
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLGJ-jNkm24#)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: snw9 on Feb 24, 2018, 02:18 AM
I would like to see Steph input more, since Diamond Eyes I felt this contributions have decreased, though on Gore I feel the stuff he wrote was powerful.

In terms of what to expect, it will just be another organic snapshot of the era, typical Deftones  8)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: ManiacNebula420 on Feb 24, 2018, 07:35 AM
There's an Interview when Chino said: I want Stephens "forefront" to the next album http://www.theprp.com/2017/10/02/news/chino-moreno-wants-stephen-carpenters-riffs-forefront-next-deftones-album/ (http://www.theprp.com/2017/10/02/news/chino-moreno-wants-stephen-carpenters-riffs-forefront-next-deftones-album/)
There is anther one when Stephen talks about ATF and the next album last question scroll down https://www.google.hu/amp/s/www.guitarworld.com/.amp/artists/stephen-carpenter-looks-back-deftones-breakthrough-album-around-fur (https://www.google.hu/amp/s/www.guitarworld.com/.amp/artists/stephen-carpenter-looks-back-deftones-breakthrough-album-around-fur)
So I'm think their next album is going to be heavy
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Feb 24, 2018, 08:49 AM
terry or bust
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: ANattyRat on Feb 24, 2018, 03:28 PM
One of the interviews someone posted earlier in this thread with Stef said that he's been working on some ideas, and that was last year, so it sounds like already it's an improvement from Gore from a Stef-motivation standpoint, which is great. Personally I do hope what Chino said about wanting to put Stef at the forefront becomes a reality, because I know people have been worried that Stef's ideas aren't being welcomed or whatever, so it'd be good to see what an album like that sounds like.

Deftones haven't disappointed me so far, so I don't particularly want or expect anything from them than for them to continue what they've been doing that allows them to make awesome music. Gore is one of my favourite albums, along with White Pony and the self-titled album, and I can't really understand the hate some people have for it. Criticisms or complaints, sure, but I can't see why it's such an utter failure to some people. But ah well.

We haven't had any updates about the progress of the album, so I'm going to play it safe and say we won't see the album released until 2019, but hopefully I'm wrong. And hopefully we'll get some new music this year.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: E-Money on Feb 25, 2018, 04:53 PM
Could u imagine the hype if they brought Terry back for this one??Fuck that would be fun .
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: defsteve on Feb 25, 2018, 05:41 PM
Deftones have only ever released albums in 5 months of the year.

2 x April
2 x May
1 x June release
5 x October
1 x November

Adrenaline - Released: October 1, 1995
Around the Fur - Released: October 24, 1997
White Pony - Released: June 20, 2000
Deftones - Released: May 20, 2003
B-Sides & Rarities - Released: October 4, 2005
Saturday Night Wrist - Released: October 31, 2006
Diamond Eyes - Released: May 4, 2010
Covers - Released: April 16, 2011
The Vinyl Collection 1995Ė2011 Released: October 25, 2011
Koi No Yokan - Released: November 13, 2012
Gore - Released: April 8, 2016

I'm guessing (unless they are not hyping it at all this time) that we won't see a release in April, May or June so that would only leave October and November this year if they keep to the same release pattern.

My gut feeling is a new song in May/June, another in August/September, followed by US headline dates & festivals between August - October (especially Cal Jam '18 and Aftershock festival....both October).

Finish the year with European tour in November....either a co-headline with Alice In Chains in smaller arenas (10,000) or subbing System of a Down in larger arenas (15,000+).

That then leaves a break for Christmas/new year before starting up again in February 2019. US/Canadian/South American dates early in the year, Texas/US headline & festival dates in May (Worlds Loudest Month festivals) followed by European summer festivals in June/July/August (depending on what ones they do).

OR I'm completely wrong, the 2 European festival dates in June are the final Gore album cycle shows and we don't hear anything until 2019  ;D

I imagine album cycle touring plans are planned 12-18 months in advance so they will know now what they are doing. 

Disclaimer. The above is purely guesswork  :P
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Feb 27, 2018, 01:49 AM
One of the interviews someone posted earlier in this thread with Stef said that he's been working on some ideas, and that was last year, so it sounds like already it's an improvement from Gore from a Stef-motivation standpoint, which is great. Personally I do hope what Chino said about wanting to put Stef at the forefront becomes a reality, because I know people have been worried that Stef's ideas aren't being welcomed or whatever, so it'd be good to see what an album like that sounds like.
Broadly agree, although to be honest, I think that's largely down to Stef. It certainly seemed to be the case with Gore that rather than his ideas being shut down, he just wasn't contributing early on in the process. I don't think he'll make that mistake this time.

Could u imagine the hype if they brought Terry back for this one??Fuck that would be fun .

I honestly think they will. Both Chino and Stef have praised his past work with them multiple times in the last year. And Terry seems like he'd work with them any time - indeed, he's supposedly a little disappointed that he didn't make all their records. Given the problems with Gore's production, I think there's a pretty good chance they'll want to go back to him.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: nicklav on Feb 27, 2018, 02:43 AM
terry or bust
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 27, 2018, 02:50 AM
Reading all of this, I get a weird feeling about the upcoming show. They premiered new material out of the blue a couple of times, mostly after a long period of inactivity.

The article with Chino saying he wants Stef's sound back at the forefront of the music dates a few months, and he said something like he wanted to hang out at Stef's on weekends and jam.

It's a safe bet to say they have recorded something together and they're ready to tease. If not this show, maybe in Europe. They only ever premiered new work in the U.S though.

I have high hope to see Terry back. This would make sense with Chino kind of saying he wants a more classic Stef for the new album.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Jesus2Chino on Feb 27, 2018, 01:10 PM
For the love of all that is holy and good, please let Terry produce this next album, haha.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: defTHE1s on Feb 27, 2018, 06:56 PM
1) I'm not that big fan of a collab, even when I love Passenger, Phantom Bride is Ok, but on the other side, think Mein was a little disappointing, since I was expecting a better work or input from Serj. But, I would like to hear, if it's the chance given, a good collaboration vocal wise, but this time, a female collab.
Appart from that, I just expect to Deftones to sound like them, I know Eros is 50-50 expected to hear but I would leave what I want to hear from Eros, on Eros and from new album, on it.

2) If it's well produced, surely a new album that would be on top of Gore, at least.
And since Stef's input on the new Will Haven's song was great, I would really expect to take it to the next level using his 7's or 8's on Deftones.

3) Terry of course, that would be what we all expect, and since the comments saying that Chino wants to be Stef at the front of writing, I think no one ever has understood better what Deftones want, than Terry.

4) I would take it safe too, and not expect anything new 'till late 2019-early 2020. I know it seems a lot of time, but so did Gore next to KNW, almost 3 1/2 years one from the other.
But if they surprise us before that, I would love it.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Feb 27, 2018, 07:28 PM
If I had to take a guess, just a shot in the dark, I'd say that the album will probably come out in about... 2 more hours.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: kurtone on Feb 27, 2018, 07:55 PM
I'd like to see Stef back on a six string. Terry Date producing coupled with the work ethic they band had during Diamond Eyes recording.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: ANattyRat on Feb 27, 2018, 09:03 PM
One of the interviews someone posted earlier in this thread with Stef said that he's been working on some ideas, and that was last year, so it sounds like already it's an improvement from Gore from a Stef-motivation standpoint, which is great. Personally I do hope what Chino said about wanting to put Stef at the forefront becomes a reality, because I know people have been worried that Stef's ideas aren't being welcomed or whatever, so it'd be good to see what an album like that sounds like.
Broadly agree, although to be honest, I think that's largely down to Stef. It certainly seemed to be the case with Gore that rather than his ideas being shut down, he just wasn't contributing early on in the process. I don't think he'll make that mistake this time.

Oh yeah, it seems like Stef just wasn't really inspired or in the right mindset to come up with his own ideas, but hopefully that won't be the case this time. He said he's been working on some ideas so sounds like there's already a difference.

Reading all of this, I get a weird feeling about the upcoming show. They premiered new material out of the blue a couple of times, mostly after a long period of inactivity.

The article with Chino saying he wants Stef's sound back at the forefront of the music dates a few months, and he said something like he wanted to hang out at Stef's on weekends and jam.

It's a safe bet to say they have recorded something together and they're ready to tease. If not this show, maybe in Europe. They only ever premiered new work in the U.S though.

I don't know about this. With Gore they said they didn't want people's first time hearing a song to be live, especially with everyone being able to record it and share it, etc. But they did play Doomed User live before it was released, so who knows? Hopefully they'll give us something new, but I think it's probably a bit too early.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Feb 28, 2018, 08:55 PM
I dunno, I was pretty happy with both Gore and KNY. Both see fairly regular rotation from me today. DE was okay, too. Sure, these albums are not as good as their earlier work, but honestly that's to be expected from most bands that have been at it this long, much less bands with such fantastic earlier work.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Feb 28, 2018, 09:49 PM
Hahaha terry date lol thinking that it will ultimately lead us to a place of happiness, You'll always be disappointed, anyway it feels like every release could be that next classic album but never quite gets there ...

If Terry Date had produced Gore, it would probably be their best album since S/T, IMO. The only thing that really holds the album back, IMO, is weak production. Well, that, and Chino maybe should've have recorded his vocals on a day when his screams were a little more ferocious.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Feb 28, 2018, 10:33 PM
Hahaha terry date lol thinking that it will ultimately lead us to a place of happiness, You'll always be disappointed, anyway it feels like every release could be that next classic album but never quite gets there ...

If Terry Date had produced Gore, it would probably be their best album since S/T, IMO. The only thing that really holds the album back, IMO, is weak production. Well, that, and Chino maybe should've have recorded his vocals on a day when his screams were a little more ferocious.

I agree. From a song standpoint, Gore is at least the strongest album of the Sergio era (for me). The production is what keeps it down.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Mar 03, 2018, 03:46 AM
wat
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Mar 06, 2018, 12:41 PM
Interesting post on here from a guy who went to Botanica Festival on Saturday.

----03-03-18   Botanica Music Festival @ Six Flags, San Antonio TX   

Deftones put on a good show as always!  High energy.  Everyone sounded on point.  Chino said they haven't seen each other for like 4 months, and they were happy to see everyone.  According to their twitter, they got together a day early before the festival opened and rehearsed.  Not much other talk between songs.  Good set list!  Might be the only time I've ever heard them play Lifter live, so it was a nice surprise.  Minerva is always good!

Presuming it's true that they haven't seen each other for four months, it's probably safe to say that they haven't properly started writing yet. Which I think also means that it's very likely that they'll be doing so in/for the next two and a half months. With the South American tour and summer festivals, I don't know when they'll finish up - maybe the back end of the summer/early Autumn.

Which would set them up for a possible late 2018 release or more likely early 2019.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: bebo on Mar 08, 2018, 01:50 AM
New album talk? Always goes the same:


Chino interviews:

"Its really unorthodox, reminds me a lot of White Pony"
"Its super heavy, probably our heaviest record yet"

Steph:

"This latest album is all Chino"
"We nearly broke up"
"Im playing on a ten string now for the one song i get to chug"

Every fan:

"Can't wait, hope it sounds like ATF!!1one"
"TERRI DATEEE PLS LOL"
"Chino looks so much slimmer and healthy, remember the hole in the earth video when he had 12 chins?"

And then about two weeks before it drops ill be here to pop in and drop a fake album leak that actually directs to lemonparty.org

See you guys then!
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: defsteve on Mar 08, 2018, 01:59 AM

Finish the year with European tour in November....either a co-headline with Alice In Chains in smaller arenas (10,000) or subbing System of a Down in larger arenas (15,000+).

Disclaimer. The above is purely guesswork  :P

Glad I threw that disclaimer in!

The Meltdown show in London in June is supposedly their only UK show of 2018.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Freedomsoldier17 on Mar 08, 2018, 03:28 AM
can confirm getting lemonparty'd

wtf is wrong with people
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: kurtone on Mar 08, 2018, 04:11 AM
New album talk? Always goes the same:


Chino interviews:

"Its really unorthodox, reminds me a lot of White Pony"
"Its super heavy, probably our heaviest record yet"

Steph:

"This latest album is all Chino"
"We nearly broke up"
"Im playing on a ten string now for the one song i get to chug"

Every fan:

"Can't wait, hope it sounds like ATF!!1one"
"TERRI DATEEE PLS LOL"
"Chino looks so much slimmer and healthy, remember the hole in the earth video when he had 12 chins?"

And then about two weeks before it drops ill be here to pop in and drop a fake album leak that actually directs to lemonparty.org

See you guys then!

-Album leaks and we have the influx of "long time lurker but decided to join can I get a link?" posts
-Album drops and half the board loves it while half the board hates it.
-"these lyrics are about Chi" posts
-"I wish they'd release Eros" posts
- Tour starts and we bitch about the setlists

Can't wait to take the ride with you all again.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: from_musings on Mar 08, 2018, 07:37 PM
also:

-vesanic gets the leak early

-instead of posting it, or even saying anythng about how it sounds, he posts: "i have it."

-sl goes bat shit crazy and begs for the record or any info about the songs

-vesanic feels important

-vesanic gives sl the silent treatment

-when things are calming down vesanic sends a song or two to a few selected

-sl goes bat shit crazy again, demanding the songs too

-vesanic feels important again

-vesanic says he can't post the record because he promised his source in the know he wouldn't

-2 weeks later vesanic says he doesn't like the new record,miss the old days and chino's old screaming and singing
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 10, 2018, 05:55 PM
As soon as I saw your name, I knew you'd written about me. Not interested, man.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: from_musings on Mar 12, 2018, 10:44 PM
Well gosh darn, there you are -didn't expect you to be here and read it!
just kidding, i knew you would be around. So how are things`? life treating you all right?i hope so.
See you around when the next impenetrable hype bubble takes shape...the thing i'm looking forward to the most to be honest is when LG95 will go above and beyond to protect every new song on the record. I mean every nano second of it. Take care!
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Mar 12, 2018, 11:30 PM
Ooooh feisty :o
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: from_musings on Mar 13, 2018, 08:28 PM
oh no not at all. when someone like yourself is so biased and one sided, 700 posts and not a single bad comment about the band, always defending them into absurdity no matter what- it becomes funny. not only that - it's comedy gold. i'm not calling you a fanboy or anything,what i'm trying to say is that you make me laugh. please never leave the board,k?   :-*
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Mar 13, 2018, 11:53 PM
Not a single criticism? Lol, what a weird little fucker you are.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Freedomsoldier17 on Mar 14, 2018, 11:44 AM
also what comes with a new album:

increased hostility
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Mar 14, 2018, 01:44 PM
also what comes with a new album:

increased hostility

shut up faggot
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Mar 27, 2018, 10:56 PM
are they.... are they writing the next record?

(https://i.imgur.com/2b3ZjPH.jpg)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Mar 27, 2018, 11:28 PM
Two more hours
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: whitefur on Mar 28, 2018, 12:28 PM
I'd like to see Stef back on a six string. Terry Date producing coupled with the work ethic they band had during Diamond Eyes recording.

I was going to mention this as well. ESP just released Stef signature 20th anniversary green 6 string. Would be great if they at least did a few songs on the 6.

Also, Gore is good. But I will not listen anymore since it hurts my ears.

And Poltergeist and Prince bring the brutalz.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: visceralgod on Apr 08, 2018, 11:28 AM
Honestly, I really wouldn't mind if Chino completely abandoned yelling/"screaming" on the new album. If anything, just to preserve whatever he has left of his voice. For the next album, imagine the darkest, most nostalgic sounding stuff they've made. Absolutely evil and vivid lyrics. Crushing AND emotional guitar with deceivingly sweet vocals about things most too strange for most bands. That's what I want.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Apr 09, 2018, 03:01 PM
Honestly, I really wouldn't mind if Chino completely abandoned yelling/"screaming" on the new album. If anything, just to preserve whatever he has left of his voice. For the next album, imagine the darkest, most nostalgic sounding stuff they've made. Absolutely evil and vivid lyrics. Crushing AND emotional guitar with deceivingly sweet vocals about things most too strange for most bands. That's what I want.

I can get with this. Maybe a couple well-placed screams here and there, but mostly cleans. Gore's screams were pretty lack luster... I'd rather him sing than scream like that. Of course, I'd rather rather screams a la Hexagram (or even Royal), but I feel that those days are behind us now.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: pony_01 on May 02, 2018, 03:40 PM
well, interesting time at sharinglungs again. i miss this forum man
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: punkflop01 on May 15, 2018, 10:43 AM
Surprised no one's posted on here about this unless I missed it!

http://www.kerrang.com/the-news/deftones-have-six-or-seven-songs-for-their-new-album/ (http://www.kerrang.com/the-news/deftones-have-six-or-seven-songs-for-their-new-album/)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: punkflop01 on May 16, 2018, 07:45 AM
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.3380.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.3380.html)


I knew it wasn't possible it would get by this board :) Thanks!
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Aug 17, 2018, 07:58 PM

They're writing...

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39388043_10156661049377491_757257516592660480_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=be868a5c1b955cb83571502b4d1f21eb&oe=5C0CB783)

here's the hashtags

#deftones #thespot #sacramento #sacto #writing #fuji #fujifilm #fujifilm_xseries #fujifilmxseries #fujix100f #X100F #fujifilmx100f
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Aug 17, 2018, 08:10 PM
How many strings is Stephen up to now?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 18, 2018, 01:58 AM
Pinned the thread.



For recap, they started writing, Chino said he wants Stef's sound back to the forefront, and Stef has a fucking 9-string.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: kitesvera on Oct 24, 2018, 06:11 PM
Pinned the thread.



For recap, they started writing, Chino said he wants Stef's sound back to the forefront, and Stef has a fucking 9-string.

and stef has a fucking 9 string! haha lost it reading that! On another note they need to hurry the fuck up!
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 26, 2018, 09:59 PM
Pinned the thread.



For recap, they started writing, Chino said he wants Stef's sound back to the forefront, and Stef has a fucking 9-string.

and stef has a fucking 9 string! haha lost it reading that! On another note they need to hurry the fuck up!

I'm going to disagree. Slow the fuck down and do it right! Gore had some solid ass songs that were ruined with fucked up production. I'd rather them delay the album a full year to get it right than just say "fuck it, it's done" again.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: nicklav on Oct 29, 2018, 05:54 PM
Do we know for sure that he's playing a nine? He was just holding it in that photo...
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Oct 29, 2018, 08:48 PM
well it sounded like he was just holding one in the previous albums
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Korea Rounding on Nov 21, 2018, 03:18 PM
It doesn't look like Stephen's riffing out any new ideas there in the picture,It actually looks like he's learning a new instrument.Like a fucking beginner.Goddamn 9-string.

He didn't even learn to master the 8-string properly, and now this? Low expectations from my part.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: E-Money on Nov 21, 2018, 04:53 PM
It doesn't look like Stephen's riffing out any new ideas there in the picture,It actually looks like he's learning a new instrument.Like a fucking beginner.Goddamn 9-string.

He didn't even learn to master the 8-string properly, and now this? Low expectations from my part.

Agreed. He wrote his best stuff on a 6 and with Terry. Would love to see him go back to the 6.. so much for that.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: normsteez on Nov 22, 2018, 01:29 AM
Is that a nine string? I counted 8 strings......
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Hidalgo on Nov 23, 2018, 01:59 AM
It doesn't look like Stephen's riffing out any new ideas there in the picture,It actually looks like he's learning a new instrument.Like a fucking beginner.Goddamn 9-string.

He didn't even learn to master the 8-string properly, and now this? Low expectations from my part.

Agreed. He wrote his best stuff on a 6 and with Terry. Would love to see him go back to the 6.. so much for that.
i'd like to see him go back to 6 string too. it was his best stuff
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: nicklav on Nov 25, 2018, 05:29 AM
well it sounded like he was just holding one in the previous albums

Hahaha
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Nov 29, 2018, 02:08 AM
Two and a half years since Gore. Hope we get some news soon.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 29, 2018, 03:08 AM
Imo his best stuff may have been on a 7 string. There was that perfect balance between melody and heaviness. Hexagram main riff will probably be my favorite until they split, itís fucking beautiful.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Nov 29, 2018, 03:51 PM
Imo his best stuff may have been on a 7 string. There was that perfect balance between melody and heaviness. Hexagram main riff will probably be my favorite, itís fucking beautiful.

I could have sworn I saw yesterday that someone who sounded an awful lot like Red Pill/The Prodigy responded to this with his usual dumb shit. Did that get deleted?

And to remain on topic, I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. The Hexagram riff is probably the best in all of Deftones' discography.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 29, 2018, 04:24 PM
I knew it was him from his first posts in rap sections. I had decided to give him a pass hoping he understood his shit makes no sense in this forum. Should have known better. He's had several dozens of accounts so far.


Back on topic.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Dec 01, 2018, 03:59 AM
New album. 2019.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq0_SK_Bw0h/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=stebt0n8a04z (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq0_SK_Bw0h/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=stebt0n8a04z)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 01, 2018, 04:18 AM
FYI this venue is the Golden 1 Center. You think they're going to check out the Trans Siberian Orchestra?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: patrick on Dec 01, 2018, 04:36 AM
100% with you. Favorite song ever!!!  Monster riffs
Imo his best stuff may have been on a 7 string. There was that perfect balance between melody and heaviness. Hexagram main riff will probably be my favorite until they split, itís fucking beautiful.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Dec 01, 2018, 08:41 PM
Here's another
(https://i.imgur.com/Y8YL3b4.jpg)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Dec 01, 2018, 08:43 PM
Do the birds symbolize the Gore cover? and the garbage is them saying that the album was bad or the new album?
What do you think?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Dec 01, 2018, 08:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Y8YL3b4.jpg)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Dec 01, 2018, 10:58 PM
Where is that last pic? I can't see it on their instagram
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: buddyboy101 on Dec 02, 2018, 05:33 AM
Where is that last pic? I can't see it on their instagram

It was a "story" they posted.  I think it may have expired by now, but doesn't matter since it's above.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Dec 02, 2018, 09:14 AM
Terry. Date. Please.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Dec 02, 2018, 11:53 AM
Deftones and Tool in the same year. Oh and Faith No More are apparently in the early stages of writing new music.

Nice.

Yes to Terry Date, please.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 02, 2018, 08:53 PM
I guess we're supposed to interpret that pic? Like, bunch of birds looking over the old shit?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Hidalgo on Dec 05, 2018, 10:52 AM
Terry. Date. Please.
yes. i don't think he helps their writing whatsoever, and they don't need help with that. but he records it so well. turns out sounding awesome on cd (gore is fine writing, bad production, doesn't sound right loud). bring back Mr. Date
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Dec 05, 2018, 04:10 PM
Terry. Date. Please.
yes. i don't think he helps their writing whatsoever, and they don't need help with that. but he records it so well. turns out sounding awesome on cd (gore is fine writing, bad production, doesn't sound right loud). bring back Mr. Date

For real. Unpopular opinion here, but to be honest I think Gore had better songs than Koi No Yokan and definitely Diamond Eyes. What brought it down was the lackluster production. I hope they remaster it one day like they did the old albums.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: deffur on Dec 06, 2018, 03:13 AM
if any fans live and know about Sacramento, know of where 'the spot' is,  where they are recording?

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Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Dec 06, 2018, 07:37 AM
Only one in California I can find is :


5631 cahuenga blvd
North Hollywood, California 91601
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 06, 2018, 12:36 PM
Recap of this year's pictures + bit of interview of Chino this year

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLGJ-jNkm24#)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: nicklav on Dec 07, 2018, 12:20 AM
I saw that video pop up on my youtube notifications and thought some new info had been released...
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: defsteve on Dec 20, 2018, 05:03 AM
Deftones
1 hr ∑
complete black
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 20, 2018, 07:33 PM
Chino always associates Colors to music.

This thing is going to be brutal.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: nicklav on Dec 21, 2018, 09:46 PM
Deftones
1 hr ∑
complete black

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: defsteve on Dec 22, 2018, 11:43 PM
Deftones
1 hr ∑
complete black

What does this mean?

Hopefully what V said.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: nicklav on Dec 23, 2018, 05:04 AM
Deftones
1 hr ∑
complete black

What does this mean?

Hopefully what V said.

Oh sorry, I meant to ask what that was from. I see now it was a Facebook post. Cool!
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Dec 23, 2018, 12:30 PM
ok chino always associates colors to music. But complete black, doesn't mean brutal.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Lucas_Moreno on Dec 26, 2018, 04:32 AM
Imo his best stuff may have been on a 7 string. There was that perfect balance between melody and heaviness. Hexagram main riff will probably be my favorite until they split, itís fucking beautiful.

this
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Dec 26, 2018, 02:22 PM
Interesting that they're not being announced for any summer festivals right now. Presume this means that they're looking at an autumn release date.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Dec 27, 2018, 02:45 AM
Or they'll announce summer festivals after they announce the new album.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Dec 28, 2018, 12:18 AM
All the major European ones have been announced though. If it was coming out before then they'd be on them now. A late year release date, or at least a post-summer one seems more likely, with them doing the major festivals the next year.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: RavinVsFlud on Feb 09, 2019, 04:59 AM
Not gonna lie, pretty stoked to see the band letting Stephen take the front seat again on this album and see what they do.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Feb 09, 2019, 12:03 PM
chugga chugga chugga
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Eros TBA on Feb 28, 2019, 06:41 PM
high hopes SLAM!
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Mar 07, 2019, 02:53 PM
There's an interview with Chino in this week's Kerrang. They seem to still to be very much in the writing stage from the way he was talking. They are back writing in their Sacramento rehearsal space for the first time in about a decade interestingly.

Purely speculation - I think they record sometime in the next few months for an end of year release.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Mar 07, 2019, 03:44 PM
Yeah, they've been posting pictures on Instragram of them still writing.

Any news on Chino's other bands?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Mar 07, 2019, 04:14 PM
He wasn't asked unfortunately.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Mar 07, 2019, 08:20 PM
There's an interview with Chino in this week's Kerrang. They seem to still to be very much in the writing stage from the way he was talking. They are back writing in their Sacramento rehearsal space for the first time in about a decade interestingly.

Purely speculation - I think they record sometime in the next few months for an end of year release.

That interview could be months old as well.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Apr 13, 2019, 01:17 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwLIKRmhbzu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Apr 13, 2019, 02:07 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/4055f152e19d4b65c45a9881180201db/5D3EF135/t51.2885-15/e35/55940453_796151787421924_5837638544736954575_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com)

deftones
Verified
#NewMusic #Deftones ...
...
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 13, 2019, 02:44 AM
It's gonna be 6 years since Chi passed, wonder if they're gonna do something?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Apr 13, 2019, 05:51 PM
Ok... and Chino says new deftones album will compare to experimentation of White Pony hahaha
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: beansandcornbread on May 03, 2019, 10:42 PM
I'm interested to hear versastyles opinion on the matter.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: bebo on Jun 11, 2019, 04:28 AM
New song snippet posted on their instagram, sounds a lot like white pony:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxlqCnUB3uO/ (https://www.lemonparty.org/lemonparty.jpg)
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Jun 11, 2019, 11:55 AM
looks good, chino seems to have lost weight
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 12, 2019, 06:24 PM
Cool rehearsal. You can feel that oldschool chemistry
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Jun 12, 2019, 10:23 PM
It certainly looks like Chino and Stef are getting on better on this record.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Jun 12, 2019, 10:47 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about, that new snippet sucks dick.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Papa Prune on Jun 13, 2019, 07:04 AM
Not gonna lie. Iím the third guy on this picture and had the chance to share a dick with Chino and Stef. During action, we talked about the new record. But I wonít tell you anything since it was an opened action talk and I didnít ask them if I could share it. All I can Say is it was a simple conversation and I was struck by how ass to mouth they were despite being celebreties...
Ooops, I thought I was on reddit... ;D
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: mono on Jun 13, 2019, 11:01 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/bzr2s6/had_a_beer_and_a_great_conversation_with_chino/
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Jun 14, 2019, 12:32 AM
reddit is such a worthless shithole
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Gaz on Jun 14, 2019, 10:32 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/bzr2s6/had_a_beer_and_a_great_conversation_with_chino/

What a load of shit
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: mono on Jun 14, 2019, 01:48 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/bzr2s6/had_a_beer_and_a_great_conversation_with_chino/

What a load of shit

In fact, there's ZERO info in the whole history yet :(
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Gaz on Jun 14, 2019, 03:27 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/bzr2s6/had_a_beer_and_a_great_conversation_with_chino/

What a load of shit

In fact, there's ZERO info in the whole history yet :(

It reeks of bullshit, if Chino gave him any info it would probably have been really vague anyway
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: nicklav on Jun 14, 2019, 05:21 PM
It's either total bullshit, or an announcement is so close that Chino feels okay giving out a little info.

It's probably bullshit.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 14, 2019, 07:19 PM
- Instruments are probably done
- Vocals aren't done
- They're working on it all afternoon every day
- They're doing it in a famous LA studio
- They're trying to make this one count
- They're using an old approach
- There is a tentative release month

Bet you didn't know that. If I heard from the artist themselves about the release date and other details, I wouldn't want to spit it either.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 14, 2019, 07:23 PM
I asked him directly if Terry was producing it and he stopped answering. Didn't answer to the comments asking the same thing. So maybe?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Jun 14, 2019, 09:23 PM
The reddit poster saying Chino said the studio has really big artists recording there coincides with what this guy is saying:

https://twitter.com/damonheller/status/1136836014599573504
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Jun 14, 2019, 09:26 PM
Also this seems to be a pic from the studio:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BysyomdAu-a/
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: beansandcornbread on Jun 16, 2019, 12:00 AM
Also this seems to be a pic from the studio:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BysyomdAu-a/

I was hoping for more dick sucking.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Jun 16, 2019, 01:15 AM
Vesanic might know who's producing. He also might have ejaculated several times today.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 16, 2019, 01:16 AM
I don't know shit and I'm a virgin.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Jun 16, 2019, 01:21 AM
Liar. We all know you're the third guy in the picture on the previous page.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 16, 2019, 01:30 AM
Your mom was too busy that night.

Primary school jokes aside, I don't know shit.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: mono on Jun 18, 2019, 02:12 PM
- Instruments are probably done
- Vocals aren't done
- They're working on it all afternoon every day
- They're doing it in a famous LA studio
- They're trying to make this one count
- They're using an old approach
- There is a tentative release month

Bet you didn't know that.

Sure, there's new info on the story but nothing can be verified yet, worth the read anyway.

The reddit poster saying Chino said has really big artists recording there coincides with what this guy is saying:

https://twitter.com/damonheller/status/1136836014599573504

There's a photo of Damon and Rem with Terry Date...hope it means something
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: tokyodrifter on Jul 07, 2019, 02:53 PM
Interesting read.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 07, 2019, 04:11 PM
Interesting read.

Anything you could share?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Papa Prune on Jul 08, 2019, 07:55 AM
Tokyodrifter is back. Shit is getting real!!!!😎

2 more hours... Back to 2016 🤓🤣
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Jul 08, 2019, 07:33 PM
Interesting read.

2 more hours confirmed
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Jul 08, 2019, 11:17 PM
i love u chongi marineo
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: mono on Jul 09, 2019, 02:10 PM
Interesting read.

Meanwhile, it's the best thing we can do :D
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Gaz on Jul 10, 2019, 11:46 AM
Interesting read.

Any of it accurate?
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Jul 17, 2019, 02:44 AM
- Instruments are probably done
- Vocals aren't done
- They're working on it all afternoon every day
- They're doing it in a famous LA studio
- They're trying to make this one count
- They're using an old approach
- There is a tentative release month

Bet you didn't know that.

Sure, there's new info on the story but nothing can be verified yet


Yeah so obvious
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Jul 17, 2019, 02:52 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/bzr2s6/had_a_beer_and_a_great_conversation_with_chino/

What a load of shit

In fact, there's ZERO info in the whole history yet :(

Lol reddit
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: God on Jul 17, 2019, 02:57 AM
I asked him directly if Terry was producing it and he stopped answering. Didn't answer to the comments asking the same thing. So maybe?

hahaha

https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/c4sctn/is_there_any_official_statement_on_what_the_song/

"Vesanic

Pretty sure it is about suicide bombers. While Chino's lyrics often stay far from such topics, the self-titled was their first release after 9/11, which inspired most artists in the whole world. I don't see Chino being an exception. They started writing in 2002 if I'm correct, while 9/11 was in 2001.

"Paint the streets in white" = The dust and smoke from a collapsed building recovering the nearby streets.

"Death is the standard breach for a complex prize" = Islamist terrorists are promised to be forgiven for their suicide if it was done to fight the infidels, and will get their supposed heavenly reward.

"I think it's sweet of you, and your parents are proud" = Chino mocks the terrorists and their blind mistaken following of the family tradition.

"But I would expect it from anyone now to protect life's indigenous sound" = Chino admitting the terrorists see the western culture as a threat to the natural law and they are trying to preserve it.

"Worship, play" = Follow and pray to your god, join the religious game.

"How the streets they swell..." = The crowds nearby the attack growing in size and packing up the streets...

"...while the animals make their way through te crowd" = ...and more suicide bombers infiltrate the civilians.

"If you keep listening, you can hear it for miles" = The sound of death and destruction is loud and unmistakable, you can hear it everywhere in the world.

"God I'd trust everyone quicker with every faint smile" = Chino confesses to being naive and can't make the difference between a normal person and a terrorist in disguise.

"And the crowd goes wild" = Reference to crowds at live shows to make the listener think of the panicked people in the streets running and screaming after an attack.

"And the camera makes you seasick" = Footage of TV news investigating terrorist attacks on site is often shaky and makes the audience dizzy.

"God it's so sweet of you, I know you're proud" = Chino here plays the role of a terrorist trying to reassure themselves about what they're doing, by reminding themselves that their god would want this and is on their side.

"And the car bomb quick clicks, clicks, faint smile" = Not sure about the order of thought here. I guess Chino makes a statement about the sneaky side of the bomb placement.

"It's the same sound" = Not sure about this. Chino making a connection between the heaviness of the song and the loudness of the attack?

"And the crowd goes wild, and the camera makes you seasick" = See above.

"God it's so sweet of you, you know I'm proud" = Again, Chino plays the role of the terrorrist who says to their god they feel no remorse, and they are glad to preach this way.

"And the car bomb quick clicks, clicks with the same sound. It's the same sound, with the same sound." = The car bomb exploding is sonically similar to Deftones playing heavy and Chino screaming almost in agony.

"Hexagram, hexagram, hexagram, hexagram" = Probably a reference to the seal of Solomon, a symbolic hexagram that gave Solomon the power to control good and evil and the ability to converse with animals. "


Tell me you believe in this too! lol
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 17, 2019, 11:24 AM
When do you all think we'll get a single or a teaser? I don't think we'll get anything before new Tool drops.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Jul 17, 2019, 03:14 PM
Probably just before/around Dia De Los Deftones, presuming that's an annual thing. If that information about them recording in May/June is correct and Chino does still need to do his vocals then it can't be much earlier. Presumably the single release will go with the album campaign announcement so it'll all have to be ready. And they are usually slow as shit getting it all ready.

My guess: October single release, January/February album release.

And if Chino is quoted with an estimated release date, add five months to it.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Papa Prune on Jul 17, 2019, 03:32 PM

When it comes to a usual band:
Single: late August, early September.
Record: mid November.

When it comes to Deftones:
Single: March 2023.
Record: December 2025.

Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Jul 17, 2019, 06:10 PM
I'm hoping we get a single in late August, but it will probably be around October.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: B0RNtoR0CK on Jul 26, 2019, 11:51 PM
New album to come out MONDAY
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Jul 27, 2019, 12:14 AM
Dia De Los Deftones 2
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Jul 27, 2019, 06:58 PM
Wonder if we'll finally get the Tool tour with them. They're one of the only bands Tool are following on Twitter and given Tool must be touring towards the end of the year, there's a big empty space for Deftones to play with them.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Papa Prune on Jul 29, 2019, 09:21 AM
I follow Chinoís wife Instagram account. No stalker here, Chino and family has its life and I have mine. But her account is interesting cuz she sometimes leaks informations. Weeks ago she posted a picture of Chino and her tasting Belching Beaver beer for Dia de los Deftones 2. And yesterday she announced they were moving closer to Portland for a couple months. Could it be because Chino is recording his voice there. If itís the case, then We īre far away from the new record... makes my Defrones heart bleeding. But I hope itís not for other reasons like health or family members, which would suck for their personal lives.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Jul 29, 2019, 11:11 PM
Chuck Doom's IG posts are often from Portland, maybe that means Chino will be working with him in some capacity.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 30, 2019, 03:15 AM
I heard about a couple weeks ago that Chino was going back to LA to do vocals. Maybe Seattle means tracking/mastering.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: sharinglungs on Jul 30, 2019, 03:50 PM
Are there any prominent mastering engineers in Seattle?

I'd say moving closer to Portland is just putting finishing touches. Since Chino already lives in Bend, i'm sure it's not a stretch for him to be in Portland.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Big Boss on Sep 17, 2019, 04:19 AM
Does it bother anyone else that these guys never post updates? Ever? The only thing we get is a random update from an interview or something. It's been so long since they've directly said anything. Maybe they like waiting until things are at a fever pitch? For me they are. So much so that I created a profile after lurking forever just so I could bitch! But in all seriousness. Would it kill them? No other band I like leaves their fans hanging like this in this day and age. It's brutal.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: LG95 on Sep 19, 2019, 10:45 PM
Does it bother anyone else that these guys never post updates? Ever? The only thing we get is a random update from an interview or something. It's been so long since they've directly said anything. Maybe they like waiting until things are at a fever pitch? For me they are. So much so that I created a profile after lurking forever just so I could bitch! But in all seriousness. Would it kill them? No other band I like leaves their fans hanging like this in this day and age. It's brutal.
I sort of like the old fashioned distance between band and fans that they and some bands of similar generations have. It retains an element of mystique.

But yeah it is pretty brutal. And given it's getting close to the end of the year and they promised new music, it would be nice for them to say something soon. I still think single this year, album early next year. I'd love them to drop it sooner though. A sudden album drop or a quick four week album campaign would be ace. I'm really bored of bands doing three or four months between first single and album release.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Penicks on Sep 20, 2019, 12:21 AM
but we got the ledditor drinking a beer with chongi!!!!
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Papa Prune on Oct 09, 2019, 02:21 PM
October 9 and still no word from Chongi and friends. Letís properly #: #nonewmusic2019...
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: Inkblades on Oct 09, 2019, 08:09 PM
If a single doesn't drop before or on the day of Dia De Los Deftones, it's not happening this year. Obviously.
Title: Re: Album Nine
Post by: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 10, 2019, 05:55 AM
I don't know guys, Chino has been in a lot of interviews lately maybe that's a hint to something? :/ Anyway we are still in limbo.