Anyone knowing me here probably know I have a pretty OK taste in music, but I just wanted to talk about this band. I don't know, to spice things up here because I know this is a controversial subject.
I put up the first record today, and I must say I totally forgot how awesome that record was. It blows every other record of them out of the water, with the possible exception of Follow the Leader.
What happened? Is their new work really that bad or have I just not given those records enough time to get into? I realise most people think they suck now and I am one of them, but I have to say listening to the first record after, what, 4 or 5 years, made me realise that they once had an awesome quality. Because s.t. is an awesome record.
Discuss.
I think people are bashing Korn way more than they deserve. Sure, they're not the greatest band in the world but they're still not bad. I hardly listen to them anymore, but i still enjoy self-titled, life is peachy and follow the leader.
To say "Korn sux" is so old now.
There are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 22, 2006, 10:32 PMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.
Yeah, that's one thing no one can deny.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 22, 2006, 10:32 PM
To say "Korn sux" is so old now.
but dude. they do. it's inevitable.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 22, 2006, 10:32 PMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.
falloutboy
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 22, 2006, 11:03 PM
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Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 22, 2006, 10:32 PMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.
falloutboy
Hey, no spamming in my thread you cunt.
Hey, everyone does it in every other thread, I don't see why it's different here. UP MY KARMA, ONE UP FOR YOU! LOLOLOL!!!!!1111
I was joking faget. If anyone is the master of offtopic, it's me.
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Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 22, 2006, 10:51 PM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 22, 2006, 10:32 PMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.
falloutboy
Hey, no spamming in my thread you cunt.
Hey, everyone does it in every other thread, I don't see why it's different here. UP MY KARMA, ONE UP FOR YOU! LOLOLOL!!!!!1111
nice Bon Jovi av. haha.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 22, 2006, 11:06 PM
I was joking faget. If anyone is the master of offtopic, it's me.
ONE UP KARMA FOR YOU!!!
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 22, 2006, 11:08 PM
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Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 22, 2006, 11:03 PM
Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 22, 2006, 10:51 PM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 22, 2006, 10:32 PMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.
falloutboy
Hey, no spamming in my thread you cunt.
Hey, everyone does it in every other thread, I don't see why it's different here. UP MY KARMA, ONE UP FOR YOU! LOLOLOL!!!!!1111
nice Bon Jovi av. haha.
falloutboy
And I mean, look at that balding head.
(http://horde.whutdufuk.com/The_Spaniard/E32k5/Korn.jpg)
Moz, sorry for going off-topic, but who is that chick in your av? She's smoking.
That's Julia Bond, a fairly new pornstar.
I used to be a huge Korn fan but after Follow The Leader it just went downhill after that..in my opinion. Jon's lyrics are just repetitive and uninteresting...every once in awhile though I do listen to some old school stuff but its just not what it used to be.
Just to set the record straight: I cant get into the latest... what, 4 albums. But I am surprised that while listening I really still like the older stuff. Sometimes its so easy to forget.
Self Titled is in my all time top 10 man.
When Adrenaline and Korn's self titled release were out just about everyone I knew was into both bands as both albums not only kicked ass but they were something new, a breath of fresh air if you will, in the stale metal community.They were also the same crew and it was almost impossible to be into the Deftones without being into Korn as everyone knew that these guys were tight friends and at the time the music had a communal spirit to it.
I think three things happened to fuck this up for Korn.
1.They sold WAY more albums than the Deftones and had WAY more initial success.
This put huge pressure on them (which has never really relented) into making more material...quickly....Life is Peachy was written it two weeks.Also there always seems to be an undercurrent of "if it's cool/popular it sucks" cockheads around that love dissing Korn as a result of their success.Like it or not they still sell more albums than a shit load of bands and I think their popularity created a backlash from many.
2.Brian "Head" Welch.
I think a truely talented guitarist it's obvious to everyone who actually was a fan of Korn that he lost the plot on fame, booze and drugs.After the success of "Follow The Leader", their most successful album (yes..they really suck now) it's pretty well known Brian started experimenting with drugs, often.It was never hidden that he was the main song-writing force in Korn and it's pretty obvious that the quality of their material suffered heavily and it is rumoured he wanted out of the band well before Untouchables (their most expensive album and also biggest bomb).His sudden and dramatic departure and convinction to his religious beliefs did'nt help things but considering his history of substance abuse I'm not surprised.
3.The reverse trend scenario e.g Nu-metal.
It's cool to hate Nu-metal now (if there ever was such a thing).In the mid-ninties it was fine to label a band as such.It was relatively unknown for quite a short period and while it was nobody really minded saying they liked the sound.It was new, fresh and completely different from most of the metal releases at the time but it also was'nt long before the nu-metal label and bands involved became popular hence the old addage of "if it's trendy it sucks".I honestly think it's the path of least resistance to hate Korn now, although their past few releases have not helped.They were, at the time, pioneers and the fore-runners of the nu-metal sound and were as well respected as the Deftones and while that was fine in the ninties now it's mearly an excuse to hate them.
I'm not a big fan anymore but the first three albums will always be classics in my opinion.
:)
Life Is Peachy is great too... Much better than Follow The Leader IMO...
good post Ry, super duper bapooper karma kick for you homie haha,
but yeah i must agree the first 3 albums are classics, the 4th one was..eh dissapointing there was a few good songs on there but nothing special. Now all the new stuff they have out is just boring and the music sounds like caca to me.
Great post man. I agree with all the stuff you said.
I dont think Life is peachy is classic material at all...
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 22, 2006, 11:42 PM
Great post man. I agree with all the stuff you said.
I dont think Life is peachy is classic material at all...
I like it for what it is, a roughly thrown together album written in two weeks.There's some great tracks but I feel as a whole it's certainly a weaker album.Follow The Leader was a better example of what they could do when given the luxury of more time to write.
It's just pity they partied so hard for the next 5 years.
To begin with KoRn and Deftones were never really that tight of friends. They sipped a couple brews together. And i think KoRn's so called success used as an excuse in Ry's post was to me the biggest reason they suck. Ever since they had a chance they fuckin Conformed and made music that they knew would get them were they wanted to go which was to the top of the pops and to rock puma socks. and shoes. They are born sellouts. The deftones to me always had more pressure to make a Top of the Pops record. and they never did, becasue there not only a better band but they have this Genious of a band leader named Chino Moreno (dont know if you've heard of him) and hes also in charge of the "creative Direction" which basically means he sees and image of where he wants to take the band and follows through. Every record the deftones make is the next "big" thing, but its funny chino is so defiant of making Radio music it always comes out REAL.
So basically to me KoRn are a bunch of FUCK UPS. They wanted fame and thats what they got. Stuff like Brian Welch leaving goes along with the fame. so enjoy those 3 burnt out KoRn Records and i dont even wanna waste my keyboard on dissing those so called other albums.
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 02:08 AM
To begin with KoRn and Deftones were never really that tight of friends.
Wrong.One of a million such examples from the mouth of Chino.
QuotedrDrew.com: Bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit are releasing new records every year now. Would you like to do that?
CM: Not really. I've been friends with Korn from the beginning and I know they're a great band. I would hope they would spend more time [on their next CD] and get back to what drives them to make music. I mean their first record is one of the best records of the "90s. When you put records out that fast, it's obvious they're not gonna be as pristine as they possibly could. [They're] kind of going through the motions. That's kind of asshole of me just to say, but to put out a record, you have to live life and get the experiences that make these songs. If you're constantly just putting out music, it's not gonna have depth to it.
My favorite thing about [Korn] was the realness of [their music]. After knowing them personally and seeing them [recently], they've lost a little bit of that. As a fan, I would hope they spend more time making music with more of the intensity they had in the beginning. That's just me being honest. I don't think that's me talking shit at all.
Quote from: fireflyry on Feb 23, 2006, 02:24 AM
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 02:08 AM
To begin with KoRn and Deftones were never really that tight of friends.
Wrong.One of a million such examples from the mouth of Chino.
QuotedrDrew.com: Bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit are releasing new records every year now. Would you like to do that?
CM: Not really. I've been friends with Korn from the beginning and I know they're a great band. I would hope they would spend more time [on their next CD] and get back to what drives them to make music. I mean their first record is one of the best records of the "90s. When you put records out that fast, it's obvious they're not gonna be as pristine as they possibly could. [They're] kind of going through the motions. That's kind of asshole of me just to say, but to put out a record, you have to live life and get the experiences that make these songs. If you're constantly just putting out music, it's not gonna have depth to it.
My favorite thing about [Korn] was the realness of [their music]. After knowing them personally and seeing them [recently], they've lost a little bit of that. As a fan, I would hope they spend more time making music with more of the intensity they had in the beginning. That's just me being honest. I don't think that's me talking shit at all.
If your gonna dig that out of my post like that, i could go dig up a bunch of other quotes that would defend your case. For all we know there the tightest friends in the world. or not. but we'll never know. And that shit didnt really prove anything, ive read that many times.
Get real man.
Were you a fan circa 96-98?
They toured together, did regular interviews together and there was hardly an interview where they did'nt give each other props?
You don't do a track like "Wicked" or name a song Chi (Song Meaning:The song was named after Chi Cheng from the Deftones. We named it after him because he used to call it reggae, and he loves reggae music.-Kerang 99) because your a casual aquaintence with someone.
Quote from: fireflyry on Feb 23, 2006, 02:39 AM
Get real man.
Were you a fan circa 96-98?
They toured together, did regular interviews together and there was hardly an interview where they did'nt give each other props?
You don't do a track like "Wicked" or name a song Chi (Song Meaning:The song was named after Chi Cheng from the Deftones. We named it after him because he used to call it reggae, and he loves reggae music.-Kerang 99) because your a casual aquaintence with someone.
Ha your pathetic you think all that shit really means that much? When did they tour together besides being on the same bill as ozzy back in 95? oh yeah i forgot those shows back in 94 at the whiskey. When did they do interviews together? Im on Chino's side, as always. Cause i know he was only talking nicely of them so there wouldnt be beef. read between the lines. As for being a fan in 96-98 i got introduced to them in Christmas 98 i remember that shit, i was only 11, what were you doing when you were 11?
Why do you want them to be friends so badly?
s/t is great. prolly one of my favorite 10 or 15 cd's. extremely raw
life is peachy is cool. a lot of different flavor on it.
follow the leader was cool also. it was the start of their popularity, but had some really good songs.
after that it's like hit or miss. i've given all of their cd's a chance. it seems like there are a couple songs here or there that i like, but for the most part i could do without them
Issues was the start of there demise. I dont think any rock band should release an album less than 2 years from there previous effort. Spend some time on it, make it good. Dont fill it with fillers.
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 02:48 AM
Ha your pathetic you think all that shit really means that much?
Why do you want them to be friends so badly?
What's your deal with getting personal when your proved wrong?
Your obviously mis-informed and I don't want them to be friends, they were tight and still are.
Fact.
Theres no proof in what your saying thats the problem, you depend on bullshit you read which is sad, cause ive read all the same shit you've read. I go to the interview section too. But yes i shouldnt have gotten personal, although i felt you did too.
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 03:04 AM
Theres no proof in what your saying thats the problem, you depend on bullshit you read which is sad, cause ive read all the same shit you've read. I go to the interview section too. But yes i shouldnt have gotten personal, although i felt you did too.
I never made a personal slight man.
The thread is about Korn and you basically said they were'nt friends with the Deftones and then rambled on about how Chino is the shit and Korn suck.
Interviews are proof, they are legally obliged to be accurate and both bands have always admitted to being close friends on a regular basis.
Do you really think Chino would lie about who he is friends with just to avoid conflict?
Anyway....
honestly. i think all of there albums suck
if you wanna hear deftones, showing korn whats up, listen to the song. nosebleed
ive always liked the first 3 albums. always have , always will i suppose. but, Life Is Peachy is my favorite out of all.
The people that think Korn has always sucked, listen to Porno Creep from life is peachy and then think again.
Just to be on the positive side at one point i did like KoRn. Literally when i was like 9 and 10. My brother is 9 years older than me and he was into them from the start, so i always heard there shit and got interested in them when i was real young, i thought it was amazing how heavy it was and liked how crazy Jon was at headbanging. I bought the Who then now video and liked them more cause they had fun and thats what all this shit is about is fun. Drinkin Beer and havin fun. Then i discovered the tones when i was 11, didnt nesesarrly like them when i first heard MOS i just thought it was cool ass star wars shit. later on it Kept growing on me and i realized the reltionship between both bands but never really understood the comparisons in the music besides The heavy guitars. not even that, but whatever.
In the end sure ill give KoRn there first 3 records. Im not a hater. There just a big fuck up. Selling out for fame and shit. Then the coolest member Leaves which is just sad and pathetic. I mean i loved the guy, i dont know why he had to go get hooked on all those drugs and shit and blame it all on the music, that was a fuckin gift to be in that band. Im not trying to judge, its just instead of quiting your fuckin band and leaving them and all the Fans in a bad position, why not quit the HABIT?
Im not saying that it's a bad idea, maybe Korn should've called it quits after Issues. Sometimes it's a bit embarrasing to see them trying to make up new styles for their records but failing completely and making the same music, just a little bit more gay.
But this topic was meant more or less to show my respect to a band so hated these days. They did good things, end of story.
Yeah, they`ve screwed up with the last two albums. They are so.. dead?
I mean Korn tried to invent something new, but they FAILED.. Lets look at 'Take a look in the mirror'. Well, some songs are OK (I guess the only one is Did My Time, just because it was released earlier due to Tomb Raider), but all what`s left is pack of crap.. And lyrics? Sorry, but they suck so much - only because they`re not trying to dig something into lyrics, just writing out some shit like 'OMG I`M SUFFERING PAIN HELP ME'. This is way not cool.
And about 'See you on the other side'.. Well, I must say, I like some songs from it. Some of them are made really great, lyrics fit in (i.e. Tearjerker, Seen It All, Love Song - well this one sometimes seems to suck too). But other songs are SO similar, like made by one format. And what about all those crazy rapped up bagpipes after EACH of songs? This ruins it more.. I`m not talking about lyrics, which are again - only pain and suffering of own Jon.
In conclusion, I hope Korn will wait about 5 more years to burn new cd. Because only bands, who wait so long releases BRAND GOLD albums. Like Deftones. Or they should quit all this.
Korn shows still kick ass
even without brian
cause the shows usual don't change a lot over the years :D
they always play the classics....some new shit...some covers...always fun :)
and Korn as a band isn't what they used to be...if you see those 4 dudes in an interview you see that they don't get a long well together anylonger...they are just there...maybe for their thousands of fans...or for the money
DeftonesATF27, stop arguing, shut the fuck up and go fucking do something positive with your wasteful omni-intelligent life. Figure out the cure for AIDS or something if you know so goddamn much.
i'll admit that i used to like them. i listened to the self titled not that long ago, in the summer maybe, and i didn't suddenly think 'this isn't that bad'. blind is still a cool song but other than that it's just uninspired guitaring, so what if they've got 7 strings, they only play the top one, jon's vocals/lyrics are pathetic and fieldy's bass is annoying. who cares if it was a breath of fresh air at the time, it hasn't stood up to the ten years or whatever since its been out.
not to mention all of the stupid MTV/hip hop shit they do
Quote from: dawg on Feb 23, 2006, 12:49 PM
Korn shows still kick ass
even without brian
cause the shows usual don't change a lot over the years :D
they always play the classics....some new shit...some covers...always fun :)
and Korn as a band isn't what they used to be...if you see those 4 dudes in an interview you see that they don't get a long well together anylonger...they are just there...maybe for their thousands of fans...or for the money
i'd say millions of fans.. record sales reflects that.
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Feb 23, 2006, 06:11 PM
not to mention all of the stupid MTV/hip hop shit they do
Yeah, that is horrible, i'll agree with that.
I agree, they even still put on a good show, but the only reason they haven't broke up is for the fans. Munk said that himself.
New album is good, got some good tunes on there.
Should i go figure out the cure for aids or was that just a fancy line? Shall i fight the HIV fight while your still listening to music from someone who has hiv?
Let me ask it like this cheesedick. Should i agree with everything you motherfuckers are wasting your keyboard batteries on typing every fuckin day and be just like you everyday or should i be the original motherfucker i am make my opionions like i do and spit intellectual intelligence? You see i dont wanna be like you cause if i was like you i wouldnt wanna be like you so im not you and not gonna be like you, being like you would only make me vomit like you, like them, being like you, BOO HOO. shall I go on? Yes. but i dont feel like it. Thanks for wasting your time reading what i had to say.
Thank you for trying oldnewtype. I enjoy making comebacks. Im getting to the point where i dont even have to try anymore. It just flows.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Feb 23, 2006, 07:17 PM
I agree, they even still put on a good show, but the only reason they haven't broke up is for the fans. Munk said that himself.
hell yeah and that's the reason why I'm going to buy tickets for the show on 7th June tomorrow...the atmosphere at KoЯn shows is amazing...all those people coming together to see that band...and mostly these people are the old skool nu metal fans...aww the good old times :'( xD
maybe KoЯn is just in a phase like metallica were while doing load/reload and that stuff...maybe in 5-10years (after a long break off MTV) they will be back at full power...and then maybe even with brian "jesus" welch...let's at least hope so ;D
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 07:37 PM
Should i go figure out the cure for aids or was that just a fancy line? Shall i fight the HIV fight while your still listening to music from someone who has hiv?
Let me ask it like this cheesedick. Should i agree with everything you motherfuckers are wasting your keyboard batteries on typing every fuckin day and be just like you everyday or should i be the original motherfucker i am make my opionions like i do and spit intellectual intelligence? You see i dont wanna be like you cause if i was like you i wouldnt wanna be like you so im not you and not gonna be like you, being like you would only make me vomit like you, like them, being like you, BOO HOO. shall I go on? Yes. but i dont feel like it. Thanks for wasting your time reading what i had to say.
Thank you for trying oldnewtype. I enjoy making comebacks. Im getting to the point where i dont even have to try anymore. It just flows.
I'm with him for a change even if he disagreed with me... I mean, he's just giving his opinion about the band which is why I made the topic.
But lets all get along ok.
Quote from: dawg on Feb 23, 2006, 08:19 PM
maybe KoЯn is just in a phase like metallica were while doing load/reload and that stuff...maybe in 5-10years (after a long break off MTV) they will be back at full power...and then maybe even with brian "jesus" welch...let's at least hope so ;D
st anger was not metallica back at full power.
O RLY
Quote from: dawg on Feb 23, 2006, 08:19 PM
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Feb 23, 2006, 07:17 PM
I agree, they even still put on a good show, but the only reason they haven't broke up is for the fans. Munk said that himself.
hell yeah and that's the reason why I'm going to buy tickets for the show on 7th June tomorrow...the atmosphere at KoЯn shows is amazing...all those people coming together to see that band...and mostly these people are the old skool nu metal fans...aww the good old times :'( xD
maybe KoЯn is just in a phase like metallica were while doing load/reload and that stuff...maybe in 5-10years (after a long break off MTV) they will be back at full power...and then maybe even with brian "jesus" welch...let's at least hope so ;D
hahahahahahaha
first three albums, maybe the 4th...all after that, in my opinion, sucks...
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 07:37 PMShould i agree with everything you motherfuckers are wasting your keyboard batteries on typing every fuckin day and be just like you everyday or should i be the original motherfucker i am make my opionions like i do and spit intellectual intelligence?
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 07:37 PMI enjoy making comebacks. Im getting to the point where i dont even have to try anymore. It just flows.
Whats the difference? And how come when you speak your opinion you're speaking your opinion, but when anyone else does they don't know how to think for themself?
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 07:37 PMYou see i dont wanna be like you cause if i was like you i wouldnt wanna be like you so im not you and not gonna be like you, being like you would only make me vomit like you, like them, being like you, BOO HOO. shall I go on? Yes. but i dont feel like it. Thanks for wasting your time reading what i had to say.
Thanks for wasting your time typing. Some definite motherfuckin "intellectual intelligence" fucking right the fuck there man hahah
Does overusing fuck make me any more intelligent? Cuz my momma always said I'd grow up to be a wasteful piece of fucking shit, sitting at home argueing back and forth with some nerds because I'm too big of a pussy to leave my house and REALLY piss people off. I guess if I prove I'm witty and an asshole I'll have SOME reputation right? Because I can't just respond nicely to someone, not after what my daddy did to me.
Thanks for hearing my opinion
I love what I can create with my topics.
you could write a thread about the taste of donkey balls versus elephant balls and he'd still get pissed at someone.
...that might be a bad example, for that is his specialty.
LOL this is great, ill get back to ya'll in later when i think up some shit. See you when i see you.
Korn has a nice B-side called Camel Song. You all should download it. And the nin remix of freak on a leash is golden.
Quote from: BigDave on Feb 23, 2006, 09:13 PM
Quote from: dawg on Feb 23, 2006, 08:19 PM
maybe KoЯn is just in a phase like metallica were while doing load/reload and that stuff...maybe in 5-10years (after a long break off MTV) they will be back at full power...and then maybe even with brian "jesus" welch...let's at least hope so ;D
st anger was not metallica back at full power.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 23, 2006, 09:17 PM
O RLY
I agree the St. Anger album is not Metallica back at full power. I think its one of those...its time to do something more aggressive albums to keep up with whats out there. Any Metallica material from And Justice For all and prior is Full Power....
Metellica were terrible in my book to begin with. Hell, I even like the first Korn record more. MUAHAHAH!
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Feb 24, 2006, 03:00 PM
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 07:37 PMShould i agree with everything you motherfuckers are wasting your keyboard batteries on typing every fuckin day and be just like you everyday or should i be the original motherfucker i am make my opionions like i do and spit intellectual intelligence?
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 07:37 PMI enjoy making comebacks. Im getting to the point where i dont even have to try anymore. It just flows.
Whats the difference? And how come when you speak your opinion you're speaking your opinion, but when anyone else does they don't know how to think for themself?
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on Feb 23, 2006, 07:37 PMYou see i dont wanna be like you cause if i was like you i wouldnt wanna be like you so im not you and not gonna be like you, being like you would only make me vomit like you, like them, being like you, BOO HOO. shall I go on? Yes. but i dont feel like it. Thanks for wasting your time reading what i had to say.
Thanks for wasting your time typing. Some definite motherfuckin "intellectual intelligence" fucking right the fuck there man hahah
Does overusing fuck make me any more intelligent? Cuz my momma always said I'd grow up to be a wasteful piece of fucking shit, sitting at home argueing back and forth with some nerds because I'm too big of a pussy to leave my house and REALLY piss people off. I guess if I prove I'm witty and an asshole I'll have SOME reputation right? Because I can't just respond nicely to someone, not after what my daddy did to me.
Thanks for hearing my opinion
Nice post, but With my help, you could be the best.
STFU
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 25, 2006, 09:20 AM
STFU
Two faces doesnt keep the post man from forgetting the mail.
I eat childs. Now go.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 25, 2006, 09:14 AM
Metellica were terrible in my book to begin with. Hell, I even like the first Korn record more. MUAHAHAH!
bad moz!!
Metallica was great once. The first 5 albums are fucking brilliant.
Classics.
St. Anger's not bad either I have to say!
lol
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 25, 2006, 09:14 AM
Metellica were terrible in my book to begin with. Hell, I even like the first Korn record more. MUAHAHAH!
i have to say i lost mad respect for you after that comment
I disagree i think its a pretty dumb statement. Just like how Stevie wonder wrote songs in the key of life, Metallica wrote songs in the key of badass 6 string riffage. Lets say there first 4 albums are just fine, especially and justice for all. Theres too many classic riffs to ignore. Im not even a metal guy. But thats greaty rythem guitar playing. Much better than KoRn could fancy in there whole career with or without Brian.
Quote from: Malpractice on Feb 25, 2006, 11:32 PM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 25, 2006, 09:14 AM
Metellica were terrible in my book to begin with. Hell, I even like the first Korn record more. MUAHAHAH!
i have to say i lost mad respect for you after that comment
If you lose respect for someone when he or she has a different taste, you're a cocksucker and should be shot down and fed to some hounds. Get outta here, just because I think Metallica is freaking terrible, you lose respect for me? Fucking elite dumbass.
Edit: love ya.
anyways let's get back to korn guys
brian got offically replaced...rob patterson is on stage with korn now
or at least he was at the bakersfield show
Saying Metallica isn't a bad opinion though, its ignorance. If you really think they've always sucked then you haven't approached the right cd with an open mind, theres got to be at least one out there you like.
Personally I like Kill'Em All and Master of Puppets and thats about it.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 25, 2006, 09:23 AM
I eat childs. Now go.
*children ;)
Whether one likes Korn more than Metallica is a personal opinion but truth is, even though both have seen the bottom after the glory days, Metallica have achieved more. I probably enjoy Ride The Ligthning most.
I can't remember if I've posted in this topic already but Korn were great and I can not deny the fact they were my favorite band once. I was very disappointed with Untouchables and haven't recovered since...nor have they.
I think it's fair to say Metallica have acheived more than Korn. They are probably the biggest metal band ever.
ahem! Black Sabbath..
First of all, saying I like korn better than Metallica is just to prove my point that I really dont like Metallica. I dont care about korn that much but I just never liked Metallica, and yes I've heard pretty much all records. I cant help it. Anyway why am I explaining myself. I dont need to.
Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
Circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
Please, please
Spreading his disease, living by his story
Knees, knees
Falling to your knees, suffer for his glory
You will
Time for lust, time for lie
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And you'll get a better seat
Bow to Leper Messiah
Marvel at his tricks, need your Sunday fix
Blind devotion came, rotting your brain
Chain, chain
Join the endless chain
Fame, Fame
Infection is the game, stinking drunk with power
We see
Time for lust, time for lie
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And you'll get a better seat
Bow to Leper Messiah
Witchery, weakening
Sees the sheep are gathering
Set the trap, hypnotize
Now you follow
Time for lust, time for lie
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And you'll get a better seat
Lie.
I came back
To face what's growing in my head
Please get away from me
Take advantage of what I feel
Yes you do
One day you'll beg for me
So I'm saying nothing
Each day taking that much more
As I'm scheming all my fate
You will be there counting
You just see me as something
As something you throw around
You were there for me
Beating down to the ground
Yes it always seems
You take more from me
So I'm saying nothing
Each day taking that much more
As I'm scheming all my fate
You will be there counting
It's funny how we've just started
They get the money for the things on you
They give ya money, and the girls and the fame
I only do it for the fun and the games
It's funny how we've just started
They get the money for the things on you
They give ya money, and the girls and the fame
I only do it for the fun
That's my game
So I'm saying nothing
Each day taking that much more
As I'm scheming all my fate
You will be there counting
am i the only one who hasn't heard a complete korn album? let alone own one?
and i think it's funny how metallica is mentioned when discussing korn. seems like the suck ass vortex is strong.
Quote from: monk on Feb 26, 2006, 08:24 PM
am i the only one who hasn't heard a complete korn album? let alone own one?
and i think it's funny how metallica is mentioned when discussing korn. seems like the suck ass vortex is strong.
Haha, ouch.
I was listening to self-titled earlier. I forgot how good that is. For head bangin' metal that's a good cd to listen to.
Quote from: defskull on Mar 01, 2006, 04:53 AM
I was listening to self-titled earlier. I forgot how good that is. For head bangin' metal that's a good cd to listen to.
Yeah dude its just like wakin up in the mornin with a stiffie and not having a bitch to put it into, you just gotta fuck shit up, and thats what that record is all about.
a lot of people tell me the new album is great, but i doubt it. i guess you have to get into it, which would be hard coz i never listen to korn anymore.
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Mar 01, 2006, 09:24 AM
a lot of people tell me the new album is great, but i doubt it. i guess you have to get into it, which would be hard coz i never listen to korn anymore.
It's great in comparison to the shitty three albums they made before it, but it's still a five, maybe a low six.
issues was great moz.
i agree! issues is a good record!
but....
korn will never gain that sickness and brutality like they had on first 4 records!
it's just gone! as far as experimenting with metal music goes, new album is good, but like someone here said it's not interesting!
but you got to give them propps for what they did in nu-metal and metal music in general!they were pioneers,and thats the fact!!many bands were influenced by korn, no doubt!
and i don't think that life is peachy is bad! it has that dark wibe on it,and i think that darkness was thing that gave them the freshness, and all!
brutality?
I'm watching "who then now" right now
it kinda makes me sad to see what they have become now
those "kids" making sick music...and now those fags making shity music
just sad...and whos fault is it? ROSS FUCKING ROBINSON!!! :D
Quote from: worship on Mar 01, 2006, 07:44 PM
korn will never gain that sickness and brutality like they had on first 4 records!
they were never brutal
Quote from: worship on Mar 01, 2006, 07:44 PM
you got to give them propps for what they did in nu-metal and metal music in general
A) I fatly agree with dave, they were never brutal, Brutal = has a really harsh edge to it + fast, which korn were blatently neither
B)Of course they did good stuff for Nu-Metal seeing as they pretty much invented the genre.
C)Point B is a bad thing as it released a torrent of crap upon the world
D)The only good thing they did for Metal in general is show it what not to do.
tis all I have to say
I'd call Life Is Peachy, or at least some of it pretty fucking brutal. It all depends on your interpretation of the term, but for me that record really packs a punch.
brutal is the wrong word...they have sick lyrics ... like "kill you" and "daddy" those 2 songs are really sick...but I would never say brutal
Quote from: dawg on Mar 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
brutal is the wrong word...they have sick lyrics ... like "kill you" and "daddy" those 2 songs are really sick...but I would never say brutal
thats mine and big daves point exactly
"Brutal = has a really harsh edge to it + fast, which korn were blatently neither"
think again!! well,it's my opinion! whatever!
***
my english is bad,so when i say brutal i mean-lyrics were brutal!
and brutal was the way they played their guitars at the time,real low!
Quote from: worship on Mar 02, 2006, 07:17 PM
"Brutal = has a really harsh edge to it + fast, which korn were blatently neither"
think again!! well,it's my opinion! whatever!
***
my english is bad,so when i say brutal i mean-lyrics were brutal!
and brutal was the way they played their guitars at the time,real low!
well brutal murders are particuarly harsh/severe murders where everything has been done to the extreme. Down-tuning your guitars dosen't make you brutal, having twisted lyrics dose not make you brutal. Brutal is like playing your guitar in a frenzy of emotions as if you were slicing someone to shreds with a butter knife. Brutal is raw. None of which describes the singing style, drumming or guitar work of korn. Korns guitar just sounds kinda bouncy and slightly tribal, the drums is just not brutal it has no edge that beats you into a frenzy, it doesn't cut right into you, the vocals are calm and controlled no anger no intense rage of emotion comes out, no screaming howl like a rabid beast trying to escape from you. Brutal is death-metal or grindcore, brutal is the reason korn fans won't generally listen to decent metal.
and the lyrics aren't brutal "I did my time" that does not sound brutal to me. if they were brutal they would be like carcass's descriptions of cutting people apart.
KoRn and brutal should never exist in the same sentance.
They where an original band...but sonically, they where never brutal.
As I said, It would depend on your personal interpretation of the word. I'd consider elements of their early sound somewhat brutal. Others obviously may not, but who gives a fuck?
Ahhh Head cares.
He's been talking ro God quite a lot recently and God said that he would only let them in if Jon Dvis didn't look like a fat Benny Hill and only if they could be described as a brutal band.
Head was like "fuck!"
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 02, 2006, 11:29 PM
As I said, It would depend on your personal interpretation of the word. I'd consider elements of their early sound somewhat brutal. Others obviously may not, but who gives a fuck?
I give a fuck. Not really it depends on actually bothering to listen to the sounds being produced by the instruments, the way the band perform i.e. a truly brutal band would fuck shit up, run into the crowd despite any harm that may be caused to hmself the crowd, his instrument.
and then after using your sesnses to observe these things using your intellect take into consideration the actual deffinition of the word your using, and then consider other bands that produce diffrent music that could be considered brutal , then see which fits the description of the word best, and then in terms of the description notice that many bands fatly overshawdow korn in terms of fitting the description. and then realise that any brutalness that korn may or may not have is insignificant compared to other bands. and that by saying a band is brutal you are not saying that it has a degree of brutality coz then all bands could be considered brutal, but that to use the word in this context it would be the highest degrees of the context, and therefore korn are not brutal as they fit the description far less (like a millionth) than bands like Anal Cunt, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, pig destroyer.
Quote from: TheScumfiend on Mar 02, 2006, 11:45 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 02, 2006, 11:29 PM
As I said, It would depend on your personal interpretation of the word. I'd consider elements of their early sound somewhat brutal. Others obviously may not, but who gives a fuck?
I give a fuck. Not really it depends on actually bothering to listen to the sounds being produced by the instruments, the way the band perform i.e. a truly brutal band would fuck shit up, run into the crowd despite any harm that may be caused to hmself the crowd, his instrument.
and then after using your sesnses to observe these things using your intellect take into consideration the actual deffinition of the word your using, and then consider other bands that produce diffrent music that could be considered brutal , then see which fits the description of the word best, and then in terms of the description notice that many bands fatly overshawdow korn in terms of fitting the description. and then realise that any brutalness that korn may or may not have is insignificant compared to other bands. and that by saying a band is brutal you are not saying that it has a degree of brutality coz then all bands could be considered brutal, but that to use the word in this context it would be the highest degrees of the context, and therefore korn are not brutal as they fit the description far less (like a millionth) than bands like Anal Cunt, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, pig destroyer.
Bro, have you heard Cephalic Carnage? Thats brutal. Like Anal Cu*t but with shorter songs :)
Quote from: indychino on Mar 02, 2006, 11:48 PM
Quote from: TheScumfiend on Mar 02, 2006, 11:45 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 02, 2006, 11:29 PM
As I said, It would depend on your personal interpretation of the word. I'd consider elements of their early sound somewhat brutal. Others obviously may not, but who gives a fuck?
I give a fuck. Not really it depends on actually bothering to listen to the sounds being produced by the instruments, the way the band perform i.e. a truly brutal band would fuck shit up, run into the crowd despite any harm that may be caused to hmself the crowd, his instrument.
and then after using your sesnses to observe these things using your intellect take into consideration the actual deffinition of the word your using, and then consider other bands that produce diffrent music that could be considered brutal , then see which fits the description of the word best, and then in terms of the description notice that many bands fatly overshawdow korn in terms of fitting the description. and then realise that any brutalness that korn may or may not have is insignificant compared to other bands. and that by saying a band is brutal you are not saying that it has a degree of brutality coz then all bands could be considered brutal, but that to use the word in this context it would be the highest degrees of the context, and therefore korn are not brutal as they fit the description far less (like a millionth) than bands like Anal Cunt, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, pig destroyer.
Bro, have you heard Cephalic Carnage? Thats brutal. Like Anal Cu*t but with shorter songs :)
Yeah I have, although not much, I'm pretty lazy I've heard of fat loads of bands that I know I like but like 90% of them I haven't heard much more than a couple of tracks and never get round to getting more of them no matter how much I intend to. Cephalic carnage are one of those bands. But I will get round to getting them another time. Deffinatly brutal though.
I'd question the shorter song bit. I mena anal cunt released that vynl which was several thousand songs, I mena thats so many songs that they all have to be less than a second.
ok,man you are talking to me like i'm a newbee,or whatever you called it!
yes i know what brutal means,you know...i listen to grind core as well,i understand what you are trying to say! i meant brutal in -other term-! did you ever heard necro? his shit is brutal,and still, he is not grind core!so your definition doesen't make sense! no hate!
and i never said that i did my time is raw or whatever! i was saying-they were!
it's a past time!
it's stupid to argue around one stupid word! i wish i could say it in my language, so you could understand,but there is language barieres betwin us, and i can't help it...bur still i'm saying:shit WAS raw,sick, fast in some moments, deep, dark and yes, brutal!! hehehe
Quote from: worship on Mar 03, 2006, 12:24 AM
ok,man you are talking to me like i'm a newbee,or whatever you called it!
To be fair I'm talking to you just the same as I would someone who has several thousand posts, if i disagree with them. also to be fair, I signed up only a couple of days ago, so it would be hypocrytical of me to call you a noob, as I technically am once as well. I don't personally use the word noob to describe someone ever unless as a joke, or discusion on the word.
I never once said that you didn't listen to grind. and no grind bands obviously aren't the only brutal bands. I was just using them as examples as I tend to listen to more grind than death metal. Morbid Angel are brutal, Tower of rome are brutal, orchid are brutal, I'd probably even call Slayer Brutal, but never korn.
Ok I accept the way you see the word may be diffrent to the way people brought up with english understand the word. But your not the only person in this thread who described them as brutal. and my posts were meant just as much for them as they were for you.
Quote from: TheScumfiend on Mar 02, 2006, 11:45 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 02, 2006, 11:29 PM
As I said, It would depend on your personal interpretation of the word. I'd consider elements of their early sound somewhat brutal. Others obviously may not, but who gives a fuck?
I give a fuck. Not really it depends on actually bothering to listen to the sounds being produced by the instruments, the way the band perform i.e. a truly brutal band would fuck shit up, run into the crowd despite any harm that may be caused to hmself the crowd, his instrument.
and then after using your sesnses to observe these things using your intellect take into consideration the actual deffinition of the word your using, and then consider other bands that produce diffrent music that could be considered brutal , then see which fits the description of the word best, and then in terms of the description notice that many bands fatly overshawdow korn in terms of fitting the description. and then realise that any brutalness that korn may or may not have is insignificant compared to other bands. and that by saying a band is brutal you are not saying that it has a degree of brutality coz then all bands could be considered brutal, but that to use the word in this context it would be the highest degrees of the context, and therefore korn are not brutal as they fit the description far less (like a millionth) than bands like Anal Cunt, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, pig destroyer.
You trying to sound clever or something? Guess what.. Failure.
I'd like to start off by saying I'm not a particular fan of Korn. I like some of their stuff, yeah. But I'm not some fan boy. Secondly, just because you listen to all that (IMO) gay fucking speed metal grindcore/hardcore/gaycore/whatever the fuck you wanna label it doesn't mean you're educated in all forms of brutality. For example, if I were inclined to do so I could fuck your mother up the ass with a razorblade covered strap-on before setting her hair on fire. You would no doubt consider that reasonably brutal. I on the other hand would consider it fun as I'd obviously be some kind of sicko who enjoys stuff like that. You see how opinions can differ?
bru·tal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (brtl)
adj.
Extremely ruthless or cruel.
Crude or unfeeling in manner or speech.
Harsh; unrelenting: a brutal winter in the Arctic.
Disagreeably precise or penetrating: spoke with brutal honesty
I'm not gonna comment on like every definition there, but I'll say that the last one has some relevance to my point of view.
We'll begin with Jonathans lyrics. I for one would say on the first two albums they are indeed "spoke with brutal honesty". You only have to watch Who Then Now to see how true his words are. I'm not saying I'm into them, I'm simply stating that it's perfectly clear how much his words mean to him. I'd also call them somewhat penetrating. They hit damn hard considering what kind of listener you are. Imagine if you were also some kind of victim of child abuse. I'd imagine they would hit you like a foot to the face. Harder perhaps than even the fastest band you can muster simply because his lyrics would have more emotional relevance that some Viking roaring about raping some horse.
Now consider Korns music as whole (I'm still only reffering to the first two records). Because you listen to all that shitcore stuff then it's understandable you wouldn't think much of Korns sound in the way of brutality. My grandma on the other hand could quite possibly suffer a stroke upon listening to Life Is Peachy. I wouldn't imagine she's heard anything quite like it before and it would certainly be a blow to the senses. If that ain't brutal I don't know what is. Being hospitalised from a CD.
It seems to me, son that you have to accept people have different opinions of what's this and what's that. Just because it doesn't sound brutal to you it does not mean people are going to feel the same. Also, please try and learn that the term brutal does not just refer to the volume, relentlesness or speed of something. It can also be judged on emotional impact and factors of ones musical tastes.
Oh, and Scumfiend.. Consider yourself pwned.
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 03, 2006, 12:10 PM
Quote from: TheScumfiend on Mar 02, 2006, 11:45 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 02, 2006, 11:29 PM
As I said, It would depend on your personal interpretation of the word. I'd consider elements of their early sound somewhat brutal. Others obviously may not, but who gives a fuck?
I give a fuck. Not really it depends on actually bothering to listen to the sounds being produced by the instruments, the way the band perform i.e. a truly brutal band would fuck shit up, run into the crowd despite any harm that may be caused to hmself the crowd, his instrument.
and then after using your sesnses to observe these things using your intellect take into consideration the actual deffinition of the word your using, and then consider other bands that produce diffrent music that could be considered brutal , then see which fits the description of the word best, and then in terms of the description notice that many bands fatly overshawdow korn in terms of fitting the description. and then realise that any brutalness that korn may or may not have is insignificant compared to other bands. and that by saying a band is brutal you are not saying that it has a degree of brutality coz then all bands could be considered brutal, but that to use the word in this context it would be the highest degrees of the context, and therefore korn are not brutal as they fit the description far less (like a millionth) than bands like Anal Cunt, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, pig destroyer.
You trying to sound clever or something? Guess what.. Failure.
I'd like to start off by saying I'm not a particular fan of Korn. I like some of their stuff, yeah. But I'm not some fan boy. Secondly, just because you listen to all that (IMO) gay fucking speed metal grindcore/hardcore/gaycore/whatever the fuck you wanna label it doesn't mean you're educated in all forms of brutality. For example, if I were inclined to do so I could fuck your mother up the ass with a razorblade covered strap-on before setting her hair on fire. You would no doubt consider that reasonably brutal. I on the other hand would consider it fun as I'd obviously be some kind of sicko who enjoys stuff like that. You see how opinions can differ?
bru·tal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (brtl)
adj.
Extremely ruthless or cruel.
Crude or unfeeling in manner or speech.
Harsh; unrelenting: a brutal winter in the Arctic.
Disagreeably precise or penetrating: spoke with brutal honesty
I'm not gonna comment on like every definition there, but I'll say that the last one has some relevance to my point of view.
We'll begin with Jonathans lyrics. I for one would say on the first two albums they are indeed "spoke with brutal honesty". You only have to watch Who Then Now to see how true his words are. I'm not saying I'm into them, I'm simply stating that it's perfectly clear how much his words mean to him. I'd also call them somewhat penetrating. They hit damn hard considering what kind of listener you are. Imagine if you were also some kind of victim of child abuse. I'd imagine they would hit you like a foot to the face. Harder perhaps than even the fastest band you can muster simply because his lyrics would have more emotional relevance that some Viking roaring about raping some horse.
Now consider Korns music as whole (I'm still only reffering to the first two records). Because you listen to all that shitcore stuff then it's understandable you wouldn't think much of Korns sound in the way of brutality. My grandma on the other hand could quite possibly suffer a stroke upon listening to Life Is Peachy. I wouldn't imagine she's heard anything quite like it before and it would certainly be a blow to the senses. If that ain't brutal I don't know what is. Being hospitalised from a CD.
It seems to me, son that you have to accept people have different opinions of what's this and what's that. Just because it doesn't sound brutal to you it does not mean people are going to feel the same. Also, please try and learn that the term brutal does not just refer to the volume, relentlesness or speed of something. It can also be judged on emotional impact and factors of ones musical tastes.
Oh, and Scumfiend.. Consider yourself pwned.
To be fair I wasn't trying to make myself sound clever, thats just the way I talk, if you have a problem with that I could careless.
Yes you do rise good points, but I wont consider myself pwned. But I would still diagree. Can't be arsed to argue this anymore. Sounds like I'm wiging out but if I were to write another hughe post you would, just write another and then I another untill it just gets boaring. Plus My concentration span of an argument is only about a day, that day ended yesterday.
I respect that.
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 03, 2006, 12:10 PMYou trying to sound clever or something? Guess what.. Failure.
I'd like to start off by saying I'm not a particular fan of Korn. I like some of their stuff, yeah. But I'm not some fan boy. Secondly, just because you listen to all that (IMO) gay fucking speed metal grindcore/hardcore/gaycore/whatever the fuck you wanna label it doesn't mean you're educated in all forms of brutality. For example, if I were inclined to do so I could fuck your mother up the ass with a razorblade covered strap-on before setting her hair on fire. You would no doubt consider that reasonably brutal. I on the other hand would consider it fun as I'd obviously be some kind of sicko who enjoys stuff like that. You see how opinions can differ?
bru·tal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (brtl)
adj.
Extremely ruthless or cruel.
Crude or unfeeling in manner or speech.
Harsh; unrelenting: a brutal winter in the Arctic.
Disagreeably precise or penetrating: spoke with brutal honesty
I'm not gonna comment on like every definition there, but I'll say that the last one has some relevance to my point of view.
We'll begin with Jonathans lyrics. I for one would say on the first two albums they are indeed "spoke with brutal honesty". You only have to watch Who Then Now to see how true his words are. I'm not saying I'm into them, I'm simply stating that it's perfectly clear how much his words mean to him. I'd also call them somewhat penetrating. They hit damn hard considering what kind of listener you are. Imagine if you were also some kind of victim of child abuse. I'd imagine they would hit you like a foot to the face. Harder perhaps than even the fastest band you can muster simply because his lyrics would have more emotional relevance that some Viking roaring about raping some horse.
Now consider Korns music as whole (I'm still only reffering to the first two records). Because you listen to all that shitcore stuff then it's understandable you wouldn't think much of Korns sound in the way of brutality. My grandma on the other hand could quite possibly suffer a stroke upon listening to Life Is Peachy. I wouldn't imagine she's heard anything quite like it before and it would certainly be a blow to the senses. If that ain't brutal I don't know what is. Being hospitalised from a CD.
It seems to me, son that you have to accept people have different opinions of what's this and what's that. Just because it doesn't sound brutal to you it does not mean people are going to feel the same. Also, please try and learn that the term brutal does not just refer to the volume, relentlesness or speed of something. It can also be judged on emotional impact and factors of ones musical tastes.
Oh, and Scumfiend.. Consider yourself pwned.
Haha good post 'Trav'. That doesn't happen often... :P
i got into deftones instead of korn, so i never had a phase lol :)
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 03, 2006, 12:10 PM
Quote from: TheScumfiend on Mar 02, 2006, 11:45 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 02, 2006, 11:29 PM
As I said, It would depend on your personal interpretation of the word. I'd consider elements of their early sound somewhat brutal. Others obviously may not, but who gives a fuck?
I give a fuck. Not really it depends on actually bothering to listen to the sounds being produced by the instruments, the way the band perform i.e. a truly brutal band would fuck shit up, run into the crowd despite any harm that may be caused to hmself the crowd, his instrument.
and then after using your sesnses to observe these things using your intellect take into consideration the actual deffinition of the word your using, and then consider other bands that produce diffrent music that could be considered brutal , then see which fits the description of the word best, and then in terms of the description notice that many bands fatly overshawdow korn in terms of fitting the description. and then realise that any brutalness that korn may or may not have is insignificant compared to other bands. and that by saying a band is brutal you are not saying that it has a degree of brutality coz then all bands could be considered brutal, but that to use the word in this context it would be the highest degrees of the context, and therefore korn are not brutal as they fit the description far less (like a millionth) than bands like Anal Cunt, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, pig destroyer.
You trying to sound clever or something? Guess what.. Failure.
I'd like to start off by saying I'm not a particular fan of Korn. I like some of their stuff, yeah. But I'm not some fan boy. Secondly, just because you listen to all that (IMO) gay fucking speed metal grindcore/hardcore/gaycore/whatever the fuck you wanna label it doesn't mean you're educated in all forms of brutality. For example, if I were inclined to do so I could fuck your mother up the ass with a razorblade covered strap-on before setting her hair on fire. You would no doubt consider that reasonably brutal. I on the other hand would consider it fun as I'd obviously be some kind of sicko who enjoys stuff like that. You see how opinions can differ?
bru·tal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (brtl)
adj.
Extremely ruthless or cruel.
Crude or unfeeling in manner or speech.
Harsh; unrelenting: a brutal winter in the Arctic.
Disagreeably precise or penetrating: spoke with brutal honesty
I'm not gonna comment on like every definition there, but I'll say that the last one has some relevance to my point of view.
We'll begin with Jonathans lyrics. I for one would say on the first two albums they are indeed "spoke with brutal honesty". You only have to watch Who Then Now to see how true his words are. I'm not saying I'm into them, I'm simply stating that it's perfectly clear how much his words mean to him. I'd also call them somewhat penetrating. They hit damn hard considering what kind of listener you are. Imagine if you were also some kind of victim of child abuse. I'd imagine they would hit you like a foot to the face. Harder perhaps than even the fastest band you can muster simply because his lyrics would have more emotional relevance that some Viking roaring about raping some horse.
Now consider Korns music as whole (I'm still only reffering to the first two records). Because you listen to all that shitcore stuff then it's understandable you wouldn't think much of Korns sound in the way of brutality. My grandma on the other hand could quite possibly suffer a stroke upon listening to Life Is Peachy. I wouldn't imagine she's heard anything quite like it before and it would certainly be a blow to the senses. If that ain't brutal I don't know what is. Being hospitalised from a CD.
It seems to me, son that you have to accept people have different opinions of what's this and what's that. Just because it doesn't sound brutal to you it does not mean people are going to feel the same. Also, please try and learn that the term brutal does not just refer to the volume, relentlesness or speed of something. It can also be judged on emotional impact and factors of ones musical tastes.
Oh, and Scumfiend.. Consider yourself pwned.
but in terms of all metal or agressive music, regardless of anyones taste, korn are very tame. then again i do listen to gaycore.
I just listened to Life is Peachy.
How can you not like this album?
stfu haters, this album is gritty, nasty, brutal and plain awesome.
It's a shame Korn is dead now.
(life is peachy = by far their best album)
-Jon Davis is so fucking fat
-When Korn came out and kicked ass he was skinny
-Korn sucks now because he's so fucking fat
Well that's my theory, hahaha... if you dont think similar, well, i don't care...
I liked their self-titled album and Life is Peachy. After that they kinda went to shit.
after issues imo even though untouchables had some good songs..
Quote from: ToneDef on Mar 03, 2006, 12:10 PM
Harder perhaps than even the fastest band you can muster simply because his lyrics would have more emotional relevance that some Viking roaring about raping some horse.
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Quote from: lithium royalty on Apr 07, 2006, 06:23 AM
after issues imo even though untouchables had some good songs..
Yeah..I retract my previous statement. Issues was a pretty good album. Don't dig Untouchables though. I tried downloading it last week but...I just couldn't get into it. Delete>Empty Recycle Bin.
Quote from: DefGuy on Apr 07, 2006, 05:27 AM
-Jon Davis is so fucking fat
-When Korn came out and kicked ass he was skinny
-Korn sucks now because he's so fucking fat
Well that's my theory, hahaha... if you dont think similar, well, i don't care...
If we should listen to your theory, Deftones must suck the motherload now.
hahaha
Korn arent bad, they just arent that great either. they have sold so many albums now that they have to keep up to that standard, hence the reasons for their apparent "selling out".
Well I was talking to my friend and was explaining why they suck.
Ok. Back when Korn came out with their debut, self-titled album or what not, they weren't very rich, they probably had their own problems and shit and they had SOMETHING to say, the feeling of the music was raw and real. They expressed this very fucking well because the album kicks major ass. Now, they are huge stars and shit..they got cash, or "bling" in this case. They don't have probs or issues anymore, at least not like before. Now Jon sings about stupid shit, man. The music isn't as heavy and hard as it was back in the day. There just isn't any hatred or emotion in it. Hopefully you understand my point of view.
wow, people still listen to korn
Why do so many people forget about Korn's first album?
It's such an amazing album, I don't think I'll ever forget it. How can you forget a song like Blind?
Korn used to be really good, and they're still not that bad. Their latest album wasn't that great, but they were going through alot of shit with Head leaving the band. Also, Jon Davis isn't on meth anymore so he's alot happier than he was on previous records. Also, Korn was like the first nu metal band to come out, and they didn't want to keep putting out albums that sounded the same. Everyone needs to stop bitching about how Korn sucks now and just learn to enjoy different styles of music.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Apr 07, 2006, 10:38 AM
Quote from: DefGuy on Apr 07, 2006, 05:27 AM
-Jon Davis is so fucking fat
-When Korn came out and kicked ass he was skinny
-Korn sucks now because he's so fucking fat
Well that's my theory, hahaha... if you dont think similar, well, i don't care...
If we should listen to your theory, Deftones must suck the motherload now.
hahaha, that's true man, my mistake...well i just don't like the "industrial touch" in the korn songs now, i liked from the self-titled to issues, i don't know...that's me...
i can in every way
let the fatty contest begin.
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(http://www.deftonesworld.com/pics/chino/chino_pontiacmi.jpg)
Hahaha.
Man, Chino beats the crap out of that fool any day, you just caught him at a bad angle, that's all.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c283/Zazbag/ChinoMoreno.jpg)
Quote from: lithium royalty on Apr 09, 2006, 10:50 PM
i can in every way
distinct the pain i feel inside.
it comes to me, evil thoughts is creepin through my mind.
issues is great
s/t is ok
life is peachy is good when you are depressed
Yeah, Issues probably is my favourite album of theirs, but I just dont have the time for this band anymore, much like many people. I just dont get the same feelings that I get from other music. There's alot more exciting music out there basically! Yeah, there's my bit, goodbye!
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Apr 09, 2006, 10:57 PM
let the fatty contest begin.
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(http://www.deftonesworld.com/pics/chino/chino_pontiacmi.jpg)
that is funny, but JD doesn't look particulary fat there. In comparison to his old days yes but he was damn skinny then, compared a lot of blokes thats nothing major whatsoever.
Chino just looks like a big pie on that one tho.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Apr 09, 2006, 10:57 PM
let the fatty contest begin.
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(http://www.deftonesworld.com/pics/chino/chino_pontiacmi.jpg)
HAHAHAHAHAHA, everytime i see that chino's pic, i can stop laughing...it looks like he's gonna have an asthma attack...or he's gonna fall and faint...
i googled Jonathan Davis and it showed this guy:
(http://www.uga.edu/cits/images/staff_jd.jpg)
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Apr 09, 2006, 10:57 PM
let the fatty contest begin.
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(http://www.deftonesworld.com/pics/chino/chino_pontiacmi.jpg)
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wow look what money, beer, drugs and hoes could do!!! its not healthy!! lol
Quote from: Chrisbo on Apr 11, 2006, 03:26 PM
Yeah, Issues probably is my favourite album of theirs, but I just dont have the time for this band anymore, much like many people. I just dont get the same feelings that I get from other music. There's alot more exciting music out there basically! Yeah, there's my bit, goodbye!
the same here, with the difference that my fav album is follow the leader
every korn album sucks except issues.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/skinny2.jpg)(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/skinny1.jpg)(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/skinny3.jpg)
like i'v said before..ya'll are fucking pathetic
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/skinny2.jpg)(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/skinny1.jpg)(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/skinny3.jpg)(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/skinny4.jpg)
haha my posts are teh awesome!
anyways any of you korn fans with aol
http://music.aol.com/videos/sessions/sessions_flash.adp?defaultCovers=565&defaultID=565&ncid=AOLMUS00050000000023
thats right, korn doing sessions.
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Apr 12, 2006, 05:47 AM
every korn album sucks except issues.
that;s what I've said before and what I repeat.
Quote from: lithium royalty on Apr 29, 2006, 05:31 AM
haha my posts are teh awesome!
anyways any of you korn fans with aol
http://music.aol.com/videos/sessions/sessions_flash.adp?defaultCovers=565&defaultID=565&ncid=AOLMUS00050000000023
thats right, korn doing sessions.
lol
Quote from: lithium royalty on Apr 29, 2006, 05:31 AM
haha my posts are teh awesome!
anyways any of you korn fans with aol
http://music.aol.com/videos/sessions/sessions_flash.adp?defaultCovers=565&defaultID=565&ncid=AOLMUS00050000000023
thats right, korn doing sessions.
I must admit I like it very much. It sounds different, better I mean.
But where the hell is David? Did he also left the band...?
Quote from: yoda on mars on Apr 29, 2006, 12:55 PM
Quote from: lithium royalty on Apr 29, 2006, 05:31 AM
haha my posts are teh awesome!
anyways any of you korn fans with aol
http://music.aol.com/videos/sessions/sessions_flash.adp?defaultCovers=565&defaultID=565&ncid=AOLMUS00050000000023
thats right, korn doing sessions.
I must admit I like it very much. It sounds different, better I mean.
But where the hell is David? Did he also left the band...?
i think he's on the drums to the right with the pig mask.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Apr 29, 2006, 01:03 PM
Quote from: yoda on mars on Apr 29, 2006, 12:55 PM
Quote from: lithium royalty on Apr 29, 2006, 05:31 AM
haha my posts are teh awesome!
anyways any of you korn fans with aol
http://music.aol.com/videos/sessions/sessions_flash.adp?defaultCovers=565&defaultID=565&ncid=AOLMUS00050000000023
thats right, korn doing sessions.
I must admit I like it very much. It sounds different, better I mean.
But where the hell is David? Did he also left the band...?
i think he's on the drums to the right with the pig mask.
he doesn't look like David...
whatever... :)
david isnt there.. the people in the masks are all session players...
and he didnt leave the band either, he's just not there,.. hes probably out doing some calvin klein model shoots.
Quote from: lithium royalty on May 01, 2006, 06:04 PM
and he didnt leave the band either, he's just not there,.. hes probably out doing some calvin klein model shoots.
LOL
Quote from: deftonekid on May 01, 2006, 06:15 PM
Quote from: lithium royalty on May 01, 2006, 06:04 PM
and he didnt leave the band either, he's just not there,.. hes probably out doing some calvin klein model shoots.
LOL
korn suck!
YOU suck!
I remember reading a lot about Korn in various magazines before I even heard any of their music. Around late '95.
(long story short I moved, had no MTV, didn't listen to the radio much, didn't know anyone really where I moved to that had a CD I could borrow, and was actually too broke at the time to even buy their 1st CD! :o)
The 1st song I actually heard by them was "No place to hide" on the radio when "Peachy" came out. To tell you the truth after reading about them for so long I expected more and wasn't too impressed.
It wasn't till like '97 I heard the first two albums all the way thru. The 1st one sounded repititious and "Peachy" I thought was OK.
Personally I think the were the end result of all the bands that were popular/came right right before them- a mix of Alternative, Funk/Rap-Metal, etc.
And really I think a big part of their success was also their image. The hair, shoes, baggy/Hip-Hop clothes, etc. I mean who didn't start wearing Adidias the Puma because of Korn after they got big? (actually I never did- Chucks and Cons for me)
I will say tho that guitar wise they did something kinda new by using downtuned 7 string guitars and lot's of effects for strange noises (tho that still reminded me of the Tom Morello influence). And Fieldys bass was pretty distinctive.
But lyrically I was over all the "oh poor me, my bad childhood" crap by the time they came out and Jon Davis voice, I thought was OK.
Another thing that pissed me off I remember seeing an interview with Davis (late 90's) where he said Korn invented something, but he was refering more to rap meets rock which was already being done.
And also Davis tried to say that Ross Robinson (album producer) produced Korn for the 1st time when in fact The 1st band Ross produced was Fear Factory.
Listening to those Robinson produced F.F. tracks it sounds like Korn heard those F.F. tracks and took cue from F.F. as well.
And I still maintain Fear Factory is a more innovative and influential band than Korn.
there was a time when i liked the first 3 alot, but those days are gone, i even remember buying issues on the day it came out, like November 16th or some, i walked all the way 2 the mall 4 it and bought it and grabbed a slice of bobs pizza on the way out. then walked home and realized they suck.
why korn got labeled rap rock i dont know, jon has never flowed on any song.
if anything is repetitive, its life is peachy, the self titled release was ground breaking.
and issues is their best work to date.
Quote from: lithium royalty on May 02, 2006, 04:47 AM
why korn got labeled rap rock i dont know, jon has never flowed on any song.
if anything is repetitive, its life is peachy, the self titled release was ground breaking.
and issues is their best work to date.
Thats true about Jon not flowing, i thought the same of the tones, besides you know a few tracks from linus, adrenaline, and naw not ATF, he was just really aggro on that.
And life is peachy man, thats gotta be a tie with Self Titled, i like it more actually, its got more passion. either way he breaks down like a baby at the end of both records. so fuck em. and fuck issues, that was the end of KoRn.
Quote from: lithium royalty on May 02, 2006, 04:47 AM
why korn got labeled rap rock i dont know,
Plain and simple it was their image.
for korn aol sessions in mp3 go to kornuneashed.net in the news sections, its there
good lookin out fiend.
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on May 02, 2006, 04:52 AM
issues, that was the end of KoRn.
agreed. i like a lot their 3 first albums.
Quote from: deftonekid on May 02, 2006, 10:26 PM
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on May 02, 2006, 04:52 AM
issues, that was the end of KoRn.
agreed. i like a lot their 3 first albums.
Personally, Issues was their best album, the overall sound on that was the best! Life Is Peachy for me, was crap compared to S/T, Follow The Leader and Issues!
Quote from: greencard on May 02, 2006, 04:16 AMAnd I still maintain Fear Factory is a more innovative and influential band than Korn.
thank god someone finally agrees with me
i don't know how many people actually realize it but the first band to really do the sing/scream thing especially in the metal/death metal/hardcore world was fear factory. faith no more toyed with it too but fear factory got it down to a science
I always thought of Fear Factory as cyber type metal due to their use of industrial samples and methodic rhythms.More industrial than anything else imo.
I agree with them being the first to really do the melodic chorus/scream verse style in the mainstream metal circles but I had friends into harder goth/black metal bands that had a similar vocal style way before Fear Factory.No I can't remember band names names as it was'nt my type of music and was heard in passing or stoned in friends bedrooms but I'm sure someone here can.
How they even came up in this thread baffles me and I'm to lazy to back track.
I just talked to a huge korn fan who didnt knew who David Gilmour, Jeff Buckley and John Frusciante were.
I mean...wow.
You think big-time korn fans are smart?
No, but man.. i was just in shock. if you havent heard of those artists then.. yeah i dunno.
How old was he/she?I was pretty ignorant musically for a while in my youth.Metallica, Sepultura, Deftones and Korn were pretty much the only bands I listened to for ages.
Thank god my horizons have greatly expanded since then.Still I would have known those names, even then.Other than Jeff Buckley that is but I don't think Grace was out back in my bogan days.
I just read that they will release a new unplugged album Feb. 19. I'm really curious to listen to it, cause they covered "In Between Days" (The Cure) with Robert Smith and "Creep" by Radiohead! OMG, they'll probably fuck it up, like they did with "Another Brick InThe Wall"
Yea I read that as well.
Unplugged albums are fucking stupid
I still think they have something amazing left in them... I think they have made some mistakes (Word Up!), but I am a fan of most of their albums. There are stellar songs on each album. I think Issues is good, but too many interlude moments. I actually like Untouchables; it has some great songs at the end of the disc. The talk about how "heavy" they used to be kind of reminds me of how certain Deftones fans talk. Lots of people miss the Adrenaline and Around the Fur era, but bands change. Korn did, maybe just not as well as the Deftones have... Korn are amazing live and I disagree about not putting an album out until 2 years after the last effort, I wish it didn't take bands as long as it does for follow-ups. Usually they are so highly anticipated, you end up feeling let down after 3-5 years of waiting. Just my opinion...
I saw that Munky has a new 8 string guitar NOT like the 8 strings Meshuggah have. Munkys has an extra high string. Plus it has a tremelo.
Does that mean anything for guitar????????? Who knows. But I'm curious to hear what he does with the guitar. Apperently Steve Vai gave it to him and has one as well.
Otherwise......still not much of a korn afficianado.
When my co-worker told me The Cure did a live mashup... my heart skipped a beat. But not in a good way. I wanted to punch someone.
KoRn is nice but I prefer SOAD over them anyday ;D
my fav tracks must b: blind, pretty, need to, somebody someone, alone i break, it's on...etc
Quote from: Racer X on Jan 17, 2007, 03:28 PM
I saw that Munky has a new 8 string guitar NOT like the 8 strings Meshuggah have. Munkys has an extra high string. Plus it has a tremelo.
Does that mean anything for guitar????????? Who knows. But I'm curious to hear what he does with the guitar. Apperently Steve Vai gave it to him and has one as well.
Otherwise......still not much of a korn afficianado.
Yea... but steve vai knows how to play guitar lol.... If munky concentrated more on how to actually play instead of lookin for 8 or 7 string guitars then he'd be better. Cuz hes a shit guitar player in my opinion.
Quote from: Chrisbo on May 03, 2006, 12:09 PM
Quote from: deftonekid on May 02, 2006, 10:26 PM
Quote from: DeftonesATF27 on May 02, 2006, 04:52 AM
issues, that was the end of KoRn.
agreed. i like a lot their 3 first albums.
Personally, Issues was their best album, the overall sound on that was the best! Life Is Peachy for me, was crap compared to S/T, Follow The Leader and Issues!
I agree with Chrisbo. I think ISSUES was their best album. The quality of this shit was amazing at the time.
Quote from: biggdude01 on Jan 19, 2007, 03:19 PM
Quote from: Racer X on Jan 17, 2007, 03:28 PM
I saw that Munky has a new 8 string guitar NOT like the 8 strings Meshuggah have. Munkys has an extra high string. Plus it has a tremelo.
Does that mean anything for guitar????????? Who knows. But I'm curious to hear what he does with the guitar. Apperently Steve Vai gave it to him and has one as well.
Otherwise......still not much of a korn afficianado.
Yea... but steve vai knows how to play guitar lol.... If munky concentrated more on how to actually play instead of lookin for 8 or 7 string guitars then he'd be better. Cuz hes a shit guitar player in my opinion.
Well he might with this guitar. Yea right....
He'll probably use the extra high string for more wierd sounds with FX. I wish more guitarists would try this guiatar out.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on May 07, 2006, 09:33 PM
I just talked to a huge korn fan who didnt knew who David Gilmour, Jeff Buckley and John Frusciante were.
I mean...wow.
So what? That's a stuck up view man.
It depends who you listen to, what you do with your time and what circles you mix in. To you that person seems like a douche because you listen to those particular artists and consider them highly influential (a debatable view).. I bet that same person could name artists or similarly influential musical figures from their chosen genre of music and you wouldn't know who the fuck they were.
I only know those artists because they're namechecked in certain places.. magazines I read.. Bands I listen to.. websites I visit.. forums etc. We all take different directions man. So yeah, I think that comment was stuck up and elitist.
Damn..
Quote from: ToneDef on Jan 20, 2007, 08:08 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on May 07, 2006, 09:33 PM
I just talked to a huge korn fan who didnt knew who David Gilmour, Jeff Buckley and John Frusciante were.
I mean...wow.
So what? That's a stuck up view man.
and you quote a comment that's almost a year old because ?
to stir up shit ?
Nah man, 'cause I'm a dumbass and didn't check the date.
i still respect korn, although their music somewhere got stuck and lost everything that once made it innovative.
what i hate most about korn these days are those stupid guys with their animal masks on the stage, it doesnt only look silly- it just takes away alot of atmosphere and doesnt give you the feeling that you are watching a rock band on the stage.
Everything was OK before Head left, I mean "coming undone" worst song ever made!
i was once a hardcore korn fan as well as other bands too but when head left and i read his reasons y, it made sense. i gave korn's new album (see you on the otherside) a chance, id have to saw it was a record that i couldnt grow on me. im waitin for their new record hopin for some goood.
KoRn is like a joke now. Head leaves, David leaves... no one in the band has passion for what they're doing any more. It's just their business.
they've been a joke for a long time man. the only reason i ever liked them was probably because i was 15 and that's the age group their shit is most appealing to. i listened to some of their older stuff kind of recently, stuff that i loved even when they were putting out bullshit and it's not even something i can listen to anymore even for nostalgic purposes.
yea, he's on a "hiatus" from the band, and wont be the drummer for this new record or tour. He said it's not over, but I doubt he'll go back to the band... you don't just take a break like this.
David sucked since he stuffed his wrist back in the Life is Peachy days anyway.
In ten years Korn will just be Munky....singing folk songs.
haha
Terry Bozzio taking over drums for them is laughable too. I mean the guys a legend but I mean.. wtf...
(http://grm.martin.free.fr/photosgraym/Terry%20Bozzio.jpg)
as a huge zappa fan i love terry but he's lost some credibility here, maybe he's tryin to be down wit the kids?
although maybe this will introduce some angst ridden teens to some zappa, fingers crossed!!
Quote from: ToneDef on Jan 23, 2007, 07:04 AM
Terry Bozzio taking over drums for them is laughable too. I mean the guys a legend but I mean.. wtf...
(http://grm.martin.free.fr/photosgraym/Terry%20Bozzio.jpg)
Jesus thats insane.
Quote from: ToneDef on Jan 23, 2007, 07:04 AM
Terry Bozzio taking over drums for them is laughable too. I mean the guys a legend but I mean.. wtf...
(http://grm.martin.free.fr/photosgraym/Terry%20Bozzio.jpg)
i bet u he'll just be hittin the snare most of the time..
Quote from: fireflyry on Jan 23, 2007, 11:42 AM
Quote from: ToneDef on Jan 23, 2007, 07:04 AM
Terry Bozzio taking over drums for them is laughable too. I mean the guys a legend but I mean.. wtf...
(http://grm.martin.free.fr/photosgraym/Terry%20Bozzio.jpg)
Jesus thats insane.
Pretty crazy, huh?
(http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~chikara/LOVELOG_IMG/200502169524d0e9.jpg)
damn why do korn keep getting my fav drummers as fill in drummers
first mike bordin and now terry bozzio
seems like a waste of talent
FOAL in the mtv Unplugged
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAuy0-5W94g
what do u think?
Korn feat Amy Lee - Freak On A Leash (@ Mtv Unplugged) --> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=390DGIIN (Audio)
yeah i like the performance, but i'd like to see or hear the performance with robert smith.
go! go! go!
they're a fucking joke man. amy lee sucks and is ugly. they sound terrible "unplugged," john can't sing and the fact that they have members wearing masks is purely laughable. they've completely lost it, one of the biggest jokes/gimmicks in our generation of music.
Quote from: cory on Jan 25, 2007, 06:42 PM
go! go! go!
they're a fucking joke man. amy lee sucks and is ugly. they sound terrible "unplugged," john can't sing and the fact that they have members wearing masks is purely laughable. they've completely lost it, one of the biggest jokes/gimmicks in our generation of music.
yeah, i hate that fuckers with mask s too.
Quote from: cory on Jan 25, 2007, 06:42 PM
go! go! go!
they're a fucking joke man. amy lee sucks and is ugly. they sound terrible "unplugged," john can't sing and the fact that they have members wearing masks is purely laughable. they've completely lost it, one of the biggest jokes/gimmicks in our generation of music.
that's right. There are some songs that should never be played unplugged. FOAL is such a song, and i'm sure the rest of the songs suck...
I used to love them and I still like their old stuff, but the new stuff especially the unplugged performance with amy lee has not exactly been my cup of tea.
that unplugged shit is pathetic.
i hate amy lee (and evanescense).
at least amy lee is cute haha not true
Nah, I'd bang her for sure.
i didnt really like see you on the other side.
why are you hating on korn on a deftones website. you people dont know anything about this band. i can see that in what you write. the finger too you.
what no one can deny is that korn is unique and keep progressing with every new record, that they progress in a direction you dont like is too bad, it simply is their intention to make each new record sound different. i'm a longtime big fan of deftones, but they fail to be as creative as korn. in fact, i dont know any band who can experiment that much without losing their signature sound, beside korn. they still have a fan community and respect among other artists most bands can only dream about. korn is not going downhill at all. but hey, you don't have to listen to me.
(p.s. the masks are part of the artwork and liveshow concept of 'see you on the other side'. it's also used to not make it look like korn is suddenly with 8 persons, distinguishing the 4 members from the backingband.
oh and david will rejoin. Terry Bozzio already worked with Jonathan Davis on music for the movie Queen of the Damned."I worked with Jonathan on the Queen Of The Damned soundtrack, and we hit it off. His drummer David feels like he needs to take a break for a while." Bozzio said. He's been at it ten years, so he's gonna kick back and I'm going to play with KoRn, which is really exciting and lots of fun.)
You like Korn and I think that's cool. I agree that they progress with each record but to me progression isn't always a good thing.
Korn is just a joke to me. While Deftones are changing it up for the better every record, Korn are just declining further. I liked them once upon a time and some of their records are still great to me.. But I think they should have called it a day long ago.
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Jan 28, 2007, 08:54 AM
why are you hating on korn on a deftones website. you people dont know anything about this band. i can see that in what you write. the finger too you.
what no one can deny is that korn is unique and keep progressing with every new record, that they progress in a direction you dont like is too bad, it simply is their intention to make each new record sound different. i'm a longtime big fan of deftones, but they fail to be as creative as korn. in fact, i dont know any band who can experiment that much without losing their signature sound, beside korn. they still have a fan community and respect among other artists most bands can only dream about. korn is not going downhill at all. but hey, you don't have to listen to me.
(p.s. the masks are part of the artwork and liveshow concept of 'see you on the other side'. it's also used to not make it look like korn is suddenly with 8 persons, distinguishing the 4 members from the backingband.
oh and david will rejoin. Terry Bozzio already worked with Jonathan Davis on music for the movie Queen of the Damned."I worked with Jonathan on the Queen Of The Damned soundtrack, and we hit it off. His drummer David feels like he needs to take a break for a while." Bozzio said. He's been at it ten years, so he's gonna kick back and I'm going to play with KoRn, which is really exciting and lots of fun.)
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Posted by aenemic:
you're a fucking idiot. there, I said it.
I think Korn's highpoint was Issues/Untouchables, although I really like the sort of poppy/industrial take on the new record. Take a Look...was a big low for me.
I got my mate to have a look at the FOAL unplugged - 'JD needs to chill out on the power grunts in the chorsus!' he says!
For the record Amy Lee is a raven haired beauty. I for one would love to ****** all over her *****.
Korn along with pretty much anything else out today, i just cant listen to it, Nothing stimulates my auditory nerves anymore.
I can't even listen to Saturday Night Wrist to be real, its my favorite record, but its too deep, i cant stomache it right now. Its to apparent in my life.
Quote from: Drakesmoke1 on Feb 01, 2007, 11:34 PM
I think Korn's highpoint was Issues/Untouchables, although I really like the sort of poppy/industrial take on the new record. Take a Look...was a big low for me.
I got my mate to have a look at the FOAL unplugged - 'JD needs to chill out on the power grunts in the chorsus!' he says!
For the record Amy Lee is a raven haired beauty. I for one would love to ****** all over her *****.
are you for real
you can suck my dick and fucking like it
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Jan 27, 2007, 12:13 AM
that unplugged shit is pathetic.
i hate amy lee (and evanescense).
Quote from: cory on Feb 02, 2007, 04:58 AM
Quote from: Drakesmoke1 on Feb 01, 2007, 11:34 PM
I think Korn's highpoint was Issues/Untouchables, although I really like the sort of poppy/industrial take on the new record. Take a Look...was a big low for me.
I got my mate to have a look at the FOAL unplugged - 'JD needs to chill out on the power grunts in the chorsus!' he says!
For the record Amy Lee is a raven haired beauty. I for one would love to ****** all over her *****.
are you for real
No, I'm a phantasm, pretending to be an anonymous forum user.
well at least i'll be able to sleep better
Bozzio is great...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYBhDPt0Zew&mode=related&search=
Korn - MTV Unplugged
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=A6FF165316000429
The thing that truly sucks about korn is their setlists imo
Hmm, I actually really liked Issues. I mean, the lyrics were mostly retreads, but songs like 'Dirty' were just really good. I bought Untouchables when it came out, and was just knew it was over. Haven't been back to the band since, though my sister wanted the last one they released so I got her that. Haven't heard it though.
For a long time Life Is Peachy was my favourite, but now I'd say:
1. Korn
2. Issues
3. Life Is Peachy
4. Follow The Leader
I can appreciate how big Follow The Leader was, and how much of a progression it was, but really it was a movement away from what I liked about Korn, even though a lot of the songs are tight on that album. It was just too commercialised. I mean, 'Got The Life' is catchy and shit, but hardly integral Korn. Plus, 'All In The Family' was an immediate skip. Then again, I tended to remember liking stuff about Follow The Leader that others I knew didn't. Like Cameltosis (mostly the intro really) and My Gift To You.
Whilst I've heard Untouchables, I don't really rate it, and I haven't heard anything since. 'Chi' is probably my favourite song. That or 'Faget'. The breakdowns in both just rock the shit.
That said, I think that period of time - 94 to 98 - was a strong time for metal anyway. 'Korn', 'Life Is Peachy', 'Adrenaline', 'Around The Fur' Sepultura's 'Roots', Manson's 'Antichrist Superstar' - that shit was crazy back then, he was like Satan. Even though Manson's music is watered down rubbish with too much wordplay these days, you have to admit that 'A.S.' was a powerful album, and 'Mechanical Animals' was very well written.
Then in 99, Slipknot came and killed off Nu-Metal, because nobody could keep up with them. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, 'cause I really like 'Slipknot' and especially, 'Iowa'. Deftones were always doing their own thing anyway, and just kept on seperating themselves. Korn had commercialised themselves and went really far off. Bizkit were pretty much the same, but were getting attacked by everybody like Reznor and Slipknot - they were like the Anti-Korn, oddly enough. Manson was no longer public enemy no. 1 after Columbine died down, and he of all bands/artists couldn't keep up with Slipknot, they kinda took the crown.
With 'real' Nu Metal dead, we got lots of crappy bands flogging the dead horse like Papa Roach and such, rock returned with QOTSA and 'Rated R', and everyone involved in that initial period just fizzled out or went elsewhere, and we got 'White Pony'.
In the case of the Deftones, thank fuck.
They upload a new song, called "I Will Protect You", on their myspace page.( http://www.myspace.com/korn). I can't understand why they don't give up!
They keep getting worse.
New song is terrible!
They used to be amazing. Now they suck. Time to quit
how come people give a funk?
It's fuckin' pure shit, They really need to give up or change their name.
They've ruined the history of KoRn by the shit they've written ever since Head left.
Pure sellouts through and through.
I liked them a long time ago when their first couple albums came out (wow i'm old). But after that nu-metal in general began going downhill. It's not so much that the music quality faltered in my opinion, but that tastes "evolved" so-to-speak. I think a lot of people felt dragged down by nu-metal's constant theme: life sucks, I want to die. Bla bla bla. And the mixture of these angst ridden lyrics, low-end guitar playing and the subcultures that grew out of nu-metal (ie. the whole weird slipknot thing online).
People sort of, in my opinion, craved more...thus I think that's why more progressive metal came to stand before nu-metal. It was a short-lived genre, and I'll certainly be nostalgic about it - and KoRn too mind you. But metal just seems to own for me.
I just thought I'd share my theory on why I think KoRn isn't as popular as it once was. I give them points for originality (back in the day) though...these days they just seem to be doing the same old thing.
u guys probably know about neidermeyer's mind, the demo they recorded before they were signed and there's a lossless (flac) version out on the internet. had it but my comp got formatted..does anyone have it?
well i saw yesterday the live stream for the rock am ring show they did, and damn they had the crowd going, i havent seen a Korn show in a long time, and they putted a really good show. Cool/Uncool parts:
Cool:They are playing with Joey from Slipknot, man... it aint as fit yet, but when he puts that dumble bass drumm on some songs, man it sounds heavy.
Uncool:They are using two "percussionists" if you can call them like that, yeah those guys with mask and paited faces you see everywhere, man they are TOTALLY UNNECESARY. The other guy who does keyboards, well o can take it, cause he aint doing much. And the other who plays the 2nd Guitar does his job, although they really need to take good guitarrist, they have the money, and including a good guitarrist would improve things, at list thats my opinion.
Cool: They Sounded Tight, Ok Stage Presence.
Uncool: Dude, Jon takes O2 (Oxigen) from a canister with the help of like a nurse guy in between songs, it looks pathetic.
Uncool: They are coping to much from Slipknot, The Drummer (wich im ok with cause he rocks), Percussionist wich are so unnecesary, and they are doing the "spit it out" thing with the crowd, wich actually works and it looked awsome on tv, but it gets annoying when you realize that is just a copy.
so did i enjoyed the show: yes.
would i pay for one: if joey is on it, and they loose those guys. yes.
i like Korn, really every album for the most part. i liked the last one(however it should have never been made) Munky stepped up & made some cool riffs, & the tone of his guitar on the album is awesome
but...i thought they should have quit once Head left. he was the best part of the band. i know why they didn't though, cause they can make massive amounts of money staying Korn, but Head is long gone, & David is now gone....it's barely Korn anymore. time to throw in the towel
imagine if Stephen & Abe left deftones, & they kept going without them
I feel sorry for people that have to constantly ruin their ear drums buying these records. Seek an audiologist.
i haven't bought one of their albums since FTL in 1998. burned all the others since
Quote from: Black Elvis on Jun 04, 2007, 11:58 PM
I feel sorry for people that have to constantly ruin their ear drums buying these records. Seek an audiologist.
LMAO
They should rename Korn to "The Jon, Munky & Fieldy band".
*yawn*
their new album cover
(http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction-viewImage&friendID=819014&albumID=0&imageID=1662845)
in my opinion korn are almost just as bad as limp bizkit now. they use to be really good.
i use to be a huge fan, that started to decline with everything after follow the leader. i bought issues and take a look in the mirror only because i felt i had to since i use to be such a big fan. i rarely listen to korn anymore, i even find it hard to like the hard stuff that i use to really enjoy.
like someone else said, they should just call it quits now.
when i first saw all these guys with the animal masks on the stage with the band i thought it was a joke. but sadly i was wrong.
the band seems to be the joke now....
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jun 05, 2007, 07:24 AM
i haven't bought one of their albums since FTL in 1998. burned all the others since
now that i think about it, my sister bought FTL for me, i got life is peachy from a columbia house 12 cds for a penny thing. only album i bought was the first korn album, & i bought that for my gf at the time in late 97, then i ended up keeping it after we broke up a year later. so i guess i've never really bought a korn album for myself
Korn is fucking lame
sorry to all the fans but open ur eyes.
what fans?
:)
i just listened to what is suppose to be a new song, it sucked. sorry.
go back to self-titled..thats probably the only album that deserves some respect!
No anything up to Untouchables deserves respect.
That's when they were all about the music THEY wanted to make and Head was still writing genious songs.
Went downhill from Take A Look In The Mirror, Head was obviously ready to leave and the success of producing their own record just wasn't enough for them.
It's all MONEY now, I wish fans would see that but they're still buying into the crap.
their new album cover. :-\
(http://a13.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/5/l_8cd80137862c563946ff2f4abdb1ef94.jpg)
Quote from: theis on Jul 06, 2007, 09:46 AM
their new album cover. :-\
(http://a13.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/5/l_8cd80137862c563946ff2f4abdb1ef94.jpg)
yeah, when I saw it I just asked myself, is it realy worth to continue this crap?
yeah jon confessed himself its all for hte money now..head had pretty good reasons for leavin korn!
Quote from: juvenile on Jul 03, 2007, 10:01 AM
go back to self-titled..thats probably the only album that deserves some respect!
yes! true that! life is peachy began the downhill slide with songs like "ass itch". well atleast the beginning of the end from a lyrical standpoint.
the new single is a piece of shit.
S/T is definitely a classic. Peachy has some decent songs on it. Follow The Leader was really good but definitely showed that they were about to sell out hardcore. Issues was mostly garbage and was when I stopped paying attention to them. Untouchables actually piqued my interest again but I never heard more than the singles which I was actually impressed with. Everything after that was sadly utter crap.
i love popcorn.
the new album: 6/10
Quote from: yoda on mars on Jul 20, 2007, 09:09 PM
the new album: 6/10
it leaked? that's a pretty generous rating, though i haven't heard it yet. but i expect garbage.
Korn-Untitled-2007-MST - http://rapidshare.com/files/44054296/K0rn-Unt1tl3d-2oo7-MS7.rar
well, after listening it dor the second time I rate it 4/10
new record 3/10
I wonder how they don't see how shitty they have become! and how the hell do they want to do those songs live?!
but the new video is cool...has a cool theme!
[youtube=425,350]yk1UE2xb37s[/youtube]
3/10, again.
on the other hand, i was quite impressed by two songs, but they can't raise the level of this horrible shit.
so, i figured i'd give the album fair chance.
now that i have listened to it, i'm amazed that they actually succeeded in making an album worse than 'see you on the other side'.
this is just pure rubbish. all the songs sound the same, jonathan davis sounds like marilyn manson and wtf is up with the electro'ish sound they're trying to make? only decent song is 'evolution' (cool video btw).
guys, just give up.
1/5
video is cool
Here is the album
http://rapidshare.com/files/44051268/KU-2007-MST.rar.html
Enjoy it for the ones that like this band.
honestly, was anyone expecting this album to be good?
I've listened to 3 songs and I erase it because it sounds like pop metal .
Haha what's up with this "korn is pop" "korn is dead because head left" it almost sounds like all the shit i see in blabbermouth
But yeah i agree on some things you are saying, korn just isn't the same korn they used to be.
But why the hell do you guys have to be so childish with your comments? Makes me miserable to see that from deftones fans. I hope the tones fanbase isn't turning to be the new Tool and their elite crap
If you don't like it, then just let it go and listen to the old cd's if that makes you feel better.
By the way, it's kind of hypocritical thing to say that korn isn't metal and are pop now, because to my point of view, that's what happened with deftones. But I don't care, as long as they keep making music that i consider good, both korn and deftones.
this is proof why korn suck now...
In a recent interview, Korn's frontman Jonathan Davis said that there are 18 tracks ready for the next album, all of which were written in a month.
fucking take some time to write the songs and they won't all sound like trash
at least david will be back with the next album. The drumming sucks
hold on & killing are the only songs I like, and i think certain parts ruin the song
Quote from: xkwox on Jul 22, 2007, 04:33 AM
at least david will be back with the next album. The drumming sucks
the whole thing sucks.
Quote from: tommiw on Jul 21, 2007, 07:29 PM
Haha what's up with this "korn is pop" "korn is dead because head left" it almost sounds like all the shit i see in blabbermouth
Because it's obvious Head was the main talent in the band, anyone who was into Korn realizes he was the main song-writer and the quality of their music since his departure reflects as much.
Personally I don't think he was really that motivated on any of their work post Life is Peachy.
Anyway to appreciate that their music has gone slowly backwards is natural as is commenting on the obvious.It's far from being elitest to state as much, it's actually being realistic and to have a thread on ANY band on ANY forum and expect every poster to agree that said band is great is just being ignorant.
I used to be a fan of Korn but their music now is rushed, boring and completely uninspired.Even Chino has commented that Korn rush their albums and have taken the path of quantity releases as opposed to quality.
It's neither rocket science or childish to point out something so blatantly obvious and to make the statement "if you don't like it just listen to their old shit" does nothing but kill discussion.
It's a music forum.....it's exists purely for that reason.
anyone got head's book "Save Me from Myself: How I Found God, Quit Korn, Kicked Drugs, and Lived to Tell My Story"?
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51aNS%2Bx7o0L._AA240_.jpg)
I ordered it looking forward to read it because as you all said korn ain't shit without him!
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Jul 22, 2007, 12:40 AM
this is proof why korn suck now...
In a recent interview, Korn's frontman Jonathan Davis said that there are 18 tracks ready for the next album, all of which were written in a month.
fucking take some time to write the songs and they won't all sound like trash
Someone should really check the facts out before stating something as stupid as that.
And to firefly, i see your points and your opinions, but now you are just talking that if you don't like korn, nobody else isn't allowed to like them. I see that you listen to a band that i find very generic, but it's fine with me and I don't have a urge to start bashing them just to make me feel a better person.
Quote from: xkwox on Jul 22, 2007, 04:33 AM
at least david will be back with the next album. The drumming sucks
And this, you don't like terry bozzio? He is a legend
Only thing that is nice to see in deftones forum is that you don't insult Jonathan Davis about his weight, because to me he is still pretty skinny compared to Chino
Head was the reason why KoRn was so successful and wrote all of their decent songs.
It's been plain as day that Munky obviously can't write to save his life, So now they're relying on electro stuff, Keyboard players, Backing bands and song writers to do all the work.
The day Head left, KoRn died, they should of just disbanded and started as a different band.
David isn't coming back either, In the Kerrang interview Jonathan admitted David said he'd lost all passion for it and they haven't heard from him since.
Starting Over is fuckin' amazing though, quality song.
And how can anyone say this album has been rushed? The last one came out in 2005, Chino's just jealous he can't get off his fat arse and write more.
I love Deftones, I love KoRn, But c'mon, If you actually LISTEN to the new album you'll take note that it's not for a mainstream audience at all, Noone i know who isn't into KoRn will like it.
Quote from: Mr. Self Destruct on Jul 22, 2007, 10:58 AM
Head was the reason why KoRn was so successful and wrote all of their decent songs.
It's been plain as day that Munky obviously can't write to save his life, So now they're relying on electro stuff, Keyboard players, Backing bands and song writers to do all the work.
The day Head left, KoRn died, they should of just disbanded and started as a different band.
David isn't coming back either, In the Kerrang interview Jonathan admitted David said he'd lost all passion for it and they haven't heard from him since.
Starting Over is fuckin' amazing though, quality song.
And how can anyone say this album has been rushed? The last one came out in 2005, Chino's just jealous he can't get off his fat arse and write more.
I love Deftones, I love KoRn, But c'mon, If you actually LISTEN to the new album you'll take note that it's not for a mainstream audience at all, Noone i know who isn't into KoRn will like it.
Finally something that i enjoy agreeing on.
Quote from: tommiw on Jul 22, 2007, 09:49 AM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Jul 22, 2007, 12:40 AM
this is proof why korn suck now...
In a recent interview, Korn's frontman Jonathan Davis said that there are 18 tracks ready for the next album, all of which were written in a month.
fucking take some time to write the songs and they won't all sound like trash
Someone should really check the facts out before stating something as stupid as that.
And to firefly, i see your points and your opinions, but now you are just talking that if you don't like korn, nobody else isn't allowed to like them. I see that you listen to a band that i find very generic, but it's fine with me and I don't have a urge to start bashing them just to make me feel a better person.
well its just my opinion, but personally i think korn suck now. they're not the same band anymore. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. mine just happens to be that i think korn sucks now. your opinion maybe and probably is different, but that doesn't make either of us right or wrong.
to me korn and limp bizkit are in the same boat, both really good bands that went to shit. limp bizkit just went to shit faster than korn.
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Jul 23, 2007, 02:11 AM
your opinion maybe and probably is different, but that doesn't make either of us right or wrong.
I totally agree
Come on guys, don't waste tune talking about korn's present anymore. Let's talk 'bout emm...Camel song!!! yeah, that tune really rocks.
up until follow the leader i still considered korn good, everything after that either started to sound the same or sound like trash.
Issues was good.
not
korn are the most talented band to ever grace this planet. i truly believe that jonathan davis is god himself in human form. they are a band who simply cant go wrong. theyve pushed music to levels that were unimaginable. and they do it so effortlessly. if it werent for korn. thered be no reason to live
korn forever
jonathan davis logged into my account again guys. sorry about that
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 24, 2007, 07:10 AM
korn are the most talented band to ever grace this planet. i truly believe that jonathan davis is god himself in human form. they are a band who simply cant go wrong. theyve pushed music to levels that were unimaginable. and they do it so effortlessly. if it werent for korn. thered be no reason to live
korn forever
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 24, 2007, 07:13 AM
jonathan davis logged into my account again guys. sorry about that
lmao
tell him to stop doing that shit and take some time to write/record good songs.
ha ah ah ah ah ah... Good one Fireal... :)
I dont know,,, I loved all the albums,,, I would say they are going down,,,each album NOT better than the other but till TALO I enjoy all the songs
Issues was VERY underground, not ONE friendly tune anywhere,,, it takes getting used to and I got used to it pretty fast
I dont know why untouchables bombed,,, i love the album, its really raw and heavy
They have to keep experimenting with music, If you want to hear them bring out an album like the old one then dont bother waiting,,,,,just listen to the album you like and stop bitching
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Jul 24, 2007, 08:24 AM
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 24, 2007, 07:10 AM
korn are the most talented band to ever grace this planet. i truly believe that jonathan davis is god himself in human form. they are a band who simply cant go wrong. theyve pushed music to levels that were unimaginable. and they do it so effortlessly. if it werent for korn. thered be no reason to live
korn forever
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 24, 2007, 07:13 AM
jonathan davis logged into my account again guys. sorry about that
lmao
tell him to stop doing that shit and take some time to write/record good songs.
I really think the problem is that they werre used to write records in two or 3 weeks. After you did like 30 songs this way, then it's not that easy. Maybe they didn't understand that on time...ok, they'll never. Keep on releasing 3 albums a year K0RN!!!!!
Quote from: xkwox on Jul 22, 2007, 04:33 AM
at least david will be back with the next album. The drumming sucks
How do YOU KNOW THIS?
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 24, 2007, 07:10 AM
korn are the most talented band to ever grace this planet. i truly believe that jonathan davis is god himself in human form. they are a band who simply cant go wrong. theyve pushed music to levels that were unimaginable. and they do it so effortlessly. if it werent for korn. thered be no reason to live
korn forever
dude, whoever molested you had to be one ugly fuck, you look like a fat lesbian.
Quote from: kalhan on Jul 24, 2007, 07:07 PM
I dont know,,, I loved all the albums,,, I would say they are going down,,,each album NOT better than the other but till TALO I enjoy all the songs
Issues was VERY underground, not ONE friendly tune anywhere,,, it takes getting used to and I got used to it pretty fast
I dont know why untouchables bombed,,, i love the album, its really raw and heavy
They have to keep experimenting with music, If you want to hear them bring out an album like the old one then dont bother waiting,,,,,just listen to the album you like and stop bitching
Are you high? When I was a kid Issues was easily their most accessible record. I thought Korn was good cuz it had a little catchiness, Life Is Peachy was just a dark, mushy mess (I later grew to enjoy it more), Follow The Leader I kinda skipped but Issues had me hooked from the start. At the time I'd say it was easily their most accessible record. I still like it too, although I haven't heard it for a few years. I might stick that shit on later.
In all honesty I don't feel that the new album is half bad at all. I've just listened to it and it impressed me more than SYOTOS did. Yes Korn is esentially pop these days, and yes there have been some pretty poo songs on the last few albums but they still are a little rough around the edges and heavy in places. I'd pick Korn and Korn's new album over a lot of other stuff anyday.
i like the new album, but i like all their albums pretty much. even though Jon's lyrics suck most of the time, i like their tunes, & his voice is unique & he has a nice sense of melody
sounds like Munky is playing the basic korn riffs in this album, the last album he played some different soundin riffs for korn(& the sound of his guitar was sweet), i was impressed
Quote from: kalhan on Jul 24, 2007, 07:07 PM
I dont know,,, I loved all the albums,,, I would say they are going down,,,each album NOT better than the other but till TALO I enjoy all the songs
Issues was VERY underground, not ONE friendly tune anywhere,,, it takes getting used to and I got used to it pretty fast
I dont know why untouchables bombed,,, i love the album, its really raw and heavy
They have to keep experimenting with music, If you want to hear them bring out an album like the old one then dont bother waiting,,,,,just listen to the album you like and stop bitching
is this another 'i am jonathon davis' joke.
Well, I saw some live shit of them with joey Jordison and they just received new energy. I think their old songs sound really fresh. I must admit that I listen some of their old songs (s/t and life is peachy) and they sound great. They do suck now, but back in the days the were great.
When I listen to the new album I have a feeling that they were really inspired by Led Zeppelin music. I don't know why this feeling comes to me but I just feel like that.
Am I the only one to see some gems among crap in their last album?
uhmm...
if Jon could write good lyrics, korn might be in my top 5-8 bands ever. instead they're somewhere around 20-30
Quote from: yoda on mars on Aug 27, 2007, 12:50 PM
When I listen to the new album I have a feeling that they were really inspired by Led Zeppelin music. I don't know why this feeling comes to me but I just feel like that.
Am I the only one to see some gems among crap in their last album?
i like the new album, but i pretty much like all their albums. issues is my least favorite of theirs, it's pretty mediocre
so yeah this band has sucked major balls since spring 1999.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 15, 2008, 10:10 PM
so yeah this band has sucked major balls since spring 1999.
greatness.
S/T = Classic
Life Is Peachy = Great at the time, but in retrospect mediocre
Follow the Leader = Great at the time, now merely good
Issues = Meh
Untouchables = From the pieces I've heard, it actually sounded half decent, may pick it up sometime when I have some disposable income
Everything after Untouchables has sounded atrocious.
back in 2000 was cool you like Korn, now they time gone.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Apr 15, 2008, 11:17 PM
S/T = Classic
Life Is Peachy = Great at the time, but in retrospect mediocre
Follow the Leader = Great at the time, now merely good
Issues = Meh
Untouchables = From the pieces I've heard, it actually sounded half decent, may pick it up sometime when I have some disposable income
Everything after Untouchables has sounded atrocious.
agreed. i have refused to listen to any of there stuff since untouchables.
how many cd's do they have now? seems like every year davis is putting out something new...just too bad it sounds as bad as my chilli farts
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Apr 15, 2008, 11:17 PM
S/T = Classic
Life Is Peachy = Great at the time, but in retrospect mediocre
Follow the Leader = Great at the time, now merely good
Issues = Meh
Untouchables = From the pieces I've heard, it actually sounded half decent, may pick it up sometime when I have some disposable income
Everything after Untouchables has sounded atrocious.
precisely.
My personal favourite is actually Take A Look In The Mirror. It's so aggressive and so fucking hard. But Follow The Leader, S/T and Issues are great pieces too.
Quote from: Softparody on Apr 16, 2008, 09:05 PM
My personal favourite is actually Take A Look In The Mirror. It's so aggressive and so fucking hard. But Follow The Leader, S/T and Issues are great pieces too.
(http://web.tiscali.it/fabioracco2/images/Whois16.gif)
Quote from: Softparody on Apr 16, 2008, 09:05 PM
My personal favourite is actually Take A Look In The Mirror. It's so aggressive and so fucking hard. But Follow The Leader, S/T and Issues are great pieces too.
My personal favorite is Johnatan Davis performing blind acoustic.
Seriously, what's so bad about Take A Look In The Mirror? :O
Anyone have the new Korn song "Haze"? if so can you post a link?
p.s. it's on there myspace page. Thanks
Quote from: ChannelZer0 on Apr 23, 2008, 08:54 PM
Anyone have the new Korn song "Haze"? if so can you post a link?
p.s. it's on there myspace page. Thanks
and it's shitty shit, you'll see.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Apr 24, 2008, 02:09 PM
Quote from: ChannelZer0 on Apr 23, 2008, 08:54 PM
Anyone have the new Korn song "Haze"? if so can you post a link?
p.s. it's on there myspace page. Thanks
and it's shitty shit, you'll see.
HAHAHAHAHA
lolz @ shitty shit. Is there any other kind?
the new song, "Haze"? That is some downright shitty shit. It makes me feel sorry for them. That guitar solo sounded like those Youtube videos with dubbed guitar solos.
Quote from: ChannelZer0 on Apr 23, 2008, 08:54 PM
Anyone have the new Korn song "Haze"? if so can you post a link?
p.s. it's on there myspace page. Thanks
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ggbvuq
dont thank me, thank KFC ;)
As a once OBSESSED Korn-fan, I have to disagree with a lot of the things that I've seen on this page alone.
First off:
S/T > Issues > Follow The Leader > Untouchables > Life Is Peachy > See You On The Other Side > Untitled > Take A Look In The Mirror
I don't listen to Korn much nowadays, but they still do have potential. They have all sorts of tools (new keyboardist & drummer, perhaps new guitarist) and all they need to do is utilize them properly. "Haze" is a perfect example of Korn not taking advantage of what they have. Perhaps they truly have run out of "creative juices," I don't know. I actually don't even know why I'm going through all this effort to defend them, but it is kind of ignorant for people to say Korn's new material is bad just because it's...new. Give it a chance, you never know when these guys could make a comeback.
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 04, 2008, 04:18 PM
As a once OBSESSED Korn-fan, I have to disagree with a lot of the things that I've seen on this page alone.
First off:
S/T > Issues > Follow The Leader > Untouchables > Life Is Peachy > See You On The Other Side > Untitled > Take A Look In The Mirror
I don't listen to Korn much nowadays, but they still do have potential. They have all sorts of tools (new keyboardist & drummer, perhaps new guitarist) and all they need to do is utilize them properly. "Haze" is a perfect example of Korn not taking advantage of what they have. Perhaps they truly have run out of "creative juices," I don't know. I actually don't even know why I'm going through all this effort to defend them, but it is kind of ignorant for people to say Korn's new material is bad just because it's...new. Give it a chance, you never know when these guys could make a comeback.
Is Twisted Transistor a good song?
Quote from: cyppe101 on May 05, 2008, 09:53 PM
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 04, 2008, 04:18 PM
As a once OBSESSED Korn-fan, I have to disagree with a lot of the things that I've seen on this page alone.
First off:
S/T > Issues > Follow The Leader > Untouchables > Life Is Peachy > See You On The Other Side > Untitled > Take A Look In The Mirror
I don't listen to Korn much nowadays, but they still do have potential. They have all sorts of tools (new keyboardist & drummer, perhaps new guitarist) and all they need to do is utilize them properly. "Haze" is a perfect example of Korn not taking advantage of what they have. Perhaps they truly have run out of "creative juices," I don't know. I actually don't even know why I'm going through all this effort to defend them, but it is kind of ignorant for people to say Korn's new material is bad just because it's...new. Give it a chance, you never know when these guys could make a comeback.
Is Twisted Transistor a good song?
Not at all.
Point?
>:( i like Twisted Transistor
Ive not really cared for shit theyve done since Issues, its like they arent even trying anymore. Haze sounds like some crappy basement band doing a crappy Korn cover.
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 05, 2008, 10:34 PM
Quote from: cyppe101 on May 05, 2008, 09:53 PM
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 04, 2008, 04:18 PM
As a once OBSESSED Korn-fan, I have to disagree with a lot of the things that I've seen on this page alone.
First off:
S/T > Issues > Follow The Leader > Untouchables > Life Is Peachy > See You On The Other Side > Untitled > Take A Look In The Mirror
I don't listen to Korn much nowadays, but they still do have potential. They have all sorts of tools (new keyboardist & drummer, perhaps new guitarist) and all they need to do is utilize them properly. "Haze" is a perfect example of Korn not taking advantage of what they have. Perhaps they truly have run out of "creative juices," I don't know. I actually don't even know why I'm going through all this effort to defend them, but it is kind of ignorant for people to say Korn's new material is bad just because it's...new. Give it a chance, you never know when these guys could make a comeback.
Is Twisted Transistor a good song?
Not at all.
Point?
It's their new stuff, that you wanted us to give a chance to.
Korn was good in '99, not anymore.
^ so true.
I was a fan of the band for a long time but then they released MIRROR and this was the last album of theirs I've purchased.
Quote from: cyppe101 on May 07, 2008, 01:43 PM
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 05, 2008, 10:34 PM
Quote from: cyppe101 on May 05, 2008, 09:53 PM
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 04, 2008, 04:18 PM
As a once OBSESSED Korn-fan, I have to disagree with a lot of the things that I've seen on this page alone.
First off:
S/T > Issues > Follow The Leader > Untouchables > Life Is Peachy > See You On The Other Side > Untitled > Take A Look In The Mirror
I don't listen to Korn much nowadays, but they still do have potential. They have all sorts of tools (new keyboardist & drummer, perhaps new guitarist) and all they need to do is utilize them properly. "Haze" is a perfect example of Korn not taking advantage of what they have. Perhaps they truly have run out of "creative juices," I don't know. I actually don't even know why I'm going through all this effort to defend them, but it is kind of ignorant for people to say Korn's new material is bad just because it's...new. Give it a chance, you never know when these guys could make a comeback.
Is Twisted Transistor a good song?
Not at all.
Point?
It's their new stuff, that you wanted us to give a chance to.
Korn was good in '99, not anymore.
I didn't say their new records were good, I agree that they've pretty much gone downhill since Mirror. BUT, that doesn't mean you have to completely count them out (yet). They've had some issues with the last few albums (tried to go back to an old school sound and failed miserably on TALITM, lost Head before SYOTOS, and had THREE drummers plus shitty production/mixing on Untitled). Like I said though, I think they're finally at a place where they can function properly. The next record decides their fate, they either make a big comeback or hammer the last nail in their coffin.
So. There was a chat session held with Jonathan Davis last night where fans could ask questions freely and he revealed some pretty promising information. First off, he said Korn would gladly take back Head if he ever decided to return (we already know this, but its good to hear it reaffirmed). Secondly, he said that he really felt the band had chemistry with Ray Luzier, former Army of Anyone (Richard Patrick's side-project between the last two Filter records) drummer, which is good because he also said David probably isnt coming back.
Now, for the big news.
*drum roll*
Last night, Jonathan Davis revealed who would be producing the next Korn album, and he is...
(http://www.deftonesworld.com/images/rossrobinson.jpg)
ROSS ROBINSON!
To me, this is astounding news. He probably isnt the same producer he was back in '94, but I can see great things coming from him.
It's not a matter of him being the same great producer he was in '94 (he's still a great producer, I mean, just look at his catalog, he's who I'd want to produce my album), it's a matter of Korn being the same great band they were back in the day, which they aren't.
Ross is actually a better producer now, look at all he's got under his belt since Korn's Self-Titled (Glassjaw, At The Drive-in, etc.). Korn isn't the same great band they were back in the day, but I'm hoping Ross can bring out the best of them.
I actually like See You On The Other Side quite abit. I like the direction they took with that album. Untouchables was pretty damn good too. Take A Look In The Mirror was weak though. Untitled, I still haven't listened to much but I like some songs. Hopefully this new album kicks ass. I'd like to see Head come back.
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 18, 2008, 07:09 PM
which is good because he also said David probably isnt coming back.
he has a new band with davis's brother.
Quote from: whodunit? on Jun 18, 2008, 11:26 AM
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 18, 2008, 07:09 PM
which is good because he also said David probably isnt coming back.
he has a new band with davis's brother.
That guy Marky from Adema?
No he doesn't, that was fake.
Quote from: mr.sinester on Jun 18, 2008, 07:25 PM
Quote from: whodunit? on Jun 18, 2008, 11:26 AM
Quote from: moonlapse vertigo on May 18, 2008, 07:09 PM
which is good because he also said David probably isnt coming back.
he has a new band with davis's brother.
That guy Marky from Adema?
Marky Chavez is hawt.
ok so i got a question for any korn fans in this forum. well back in the untouchables days, when korn released "here to stay" as their first single before the album, i was trying to find it online until i downloaded 2 files labeled as "korn-here to stay" but they turned out to be fakes. However, one of the songs is known as "korn-bringing me down" which again is a fake. Who is the original artist?link will be uploaded on demand. thank u
korn is getting annoying. wtf mtv unplugged? lol
Quote from: deafnotes on Jun 25, 2008, 08:16 AM
korn is getting annoying. wtf mtv unplugged? lol
I've seen their performance on Conan (or maybe other talk-show) and it was great!
The last album was quite ok in my opinion. Had some gems among pieces of crap.
korn was good right uptil untouchables... i like all the albums till then...
the rest of them sucked cock
and i'm looking forward to the new album with ross... really am... and i won't be sucking maynard/patton cock by saying the album sucks before giving it a listen like most of you probably do
disclaimer: i like tool/mr bungle... i just don't like maynard and patton
Patton is da man. Maynard I like his music, but I dont really know much about the man.
Quote from: mr.sinester on Jun 27, 2008, 08:31 AM
Patton is da man. Maynard I like his music, but I dont really know much about the man.
Patton is just a piece of overrated shit.
Quote from: whodunit? on Jun 27, 2008, 08:35 PM
Quote from: mr.sinester on Jun 27, 2008, 08:31 AM
Patton is da man. Maynard I like his music, but I dont really know much about the man.
Patton is just a piece of overrated shit.
you sir, are wrong.
certain people have very annoying fanclubs. in turn these fanclubs make me hate the certain people more, certain people being:
a] maynard
b] patton
c] jesus
Quote from: kalhan on Jun 28, 2008, 09:34 AM
certain people have very annoying fanclubs. in turn these fanclubs make me hate the certain people more, certain people being:
a] maynard
b] patton
c] jesus
hahahahahahaha. karma +1.
im not really a big fan of mike patton
well i like the epic song man. and the video of it.
thats how i feel about patton he makes good shit, but wouldnt suck his pen and maynard is a big fake piece of shite, i dug in apc or puscifer but never got tool at all.
i hoped that fake new of silveria and chavez' was true cuz the crappy midnight panic band, hell its nothing compared to adema who had changed vocals like 10 times lawl,
never heard of those songs of untouchables, but hey had some previews around there recall the songs named different like "jesus is mexican" jaja, those previews got some extra sounds (intro/outro) in between tacks but nothing else
if korn don't make a good record now with robinson, i'm going to give up all hope... i had some left after syotos and very little left after untitled... but i feel weird even saying that i like the old korn now... those guys are ruining it for themselves... i mean, you've been in the business for a long time, you should know when the music you've recorded sucks cock or not... if it does, don't put it out...
but yeah, now they're just dragging themselves along with the entire band...
it's funny to think about Korn nowadays.
honestly, they were the band that got me into heavier rock and made me discover bands like Deftones and Incubus. i don't wanna bash them 'cause they've without a doubt released some quality music over the years.
i was recently listening to Take a Look In the Mirror and had forgotten about how solid some of the songs on that album are. it's definitely heavier than i remembered.
on another note, even though i really can't be bothered with their two latest albums, i respect that the three members, who are left, don't just give up, but keep doing what they love...shitty albums or not.
the first 4 albums are the only ones i really like. the rest have a couple good songs but are overall crap.
Korn, and Life is Peachy are pretty raw if you ask me.
Quoteit's funny to think about Korn nowadays.
honestly, they were the band that got me into heavier rock and made me discover bands like Deftones and Incubus. i don't wanna bash them 'cause they've without a doubt released some quality music over the years.
on another note, even though i really can't be bothered with their two latest albums, i respect that the three members, who are left, don't just give up, but keep doing what they love...shitty albums or not.
I feel the same way. if I had a band I wouldn't just give up if we made shitty albums. ok actually maybe 3rd strike and we're out (3 consecutive shitty albums). 3rd time's a charm. XD
lol
were some members of Korn in Lil Wayne's "prom queen" video and song? i swear in the video it looks like Munky on guitar on the stage and Jonathan Davis on drums/background outro yelling...
If that is them...how could they sink so low...LOL
Korn with a K as opposed to a C...Lil Wayne = "Blood" gang member (fake???)...I don't think that's a mere coincidence...
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/rr21476/db10.jpg)
Haha fucking awesome.
Quote from: kalhan on Aug 30, 2008, 03:38 PM
if korn don't make a good record now with robinson, i'm going to give up all hope... i had some left after syotos and very little left after untitled... but i feel weird even saying that i like the old korn now... those guys are ruining it for themselves... i mean, you've been in the business for a long time, you should know when the music you've recorded sucks cock or not... if it does, don't put it out...
but yeah, now they're just dragging themselves along with the entire band...
it's called cashing in and you can't blame them.
korn pretty much rocks
they never really sold out, cause they didnt really change what they were doing to get popular, they just happened to get huge doing what they always did. them & deftones came with a fresh new sound, a different flavor to heavy music
who cares if a band sells out or not? anyone in that position that would have an opportunity would sellout. bands that say they wouldn't just don't ever get the chance to.
I could either go and see Korn or The Killers live Friday night. Not sure yet.
Quote from: black coffee on Jun 03, 2009, 08:55 PM
I could either go and see Korn or The Killers live Friday night. Not sure yet.
The Killers sucks, man.
Sure, Korn sucks now too, but at least youll get to hear some of the classics.
yea, the killers do suck, the man is right
i dont really think korn sucks now though, i like all their albums
new song, it's called My Time
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyyjm3T68jc#)
catch it while it's hot... youtube is deleting this video.
it's good, at least isn't that crap we heard on Untitled. ;)
That was pretty decent, actually. Sounds like their old stuff.
Is that Ross Robinson producing?
yeah.. i think he is
What you think about oildale?
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korn hasn't made a good album in years and anyone who even plays with the notion that they are remotely better than anything mike patton or maynard has ever done is just plain stupid.
nobody said that dumb ass, you better read the whole thread again; oh well, patton is closely a genius and he deserves all respect, hope you understand this, maybe it's my fault, my broken english is not enough for you to get it, sorry
Quote from: emotivelotion on Apr 26, 2010, 03:59 PM
nobody said that dumb ass, you better read the whole thread again; oh well, patton is closely a genius and he deserves all respect, hope you understand this, maybe it's my fault, my broken english is not enough for you to get it, sorry
i did kind of skim over everything. i've been an ass today. apologies. i used to love korn but i kinda just grew out of it. i still listen to some life is peachy once in a while but meh. after see you on the other side i just stopped caring all together.
It's ok, I know they're not the best but I'll support 'em 'til end of times, they were in my top for years just like the deftones, lawl
Now I need to break some italian to be ready for upcoming perro mundo
I heard that song leave me alone and gotta say it has a heavy vibe which is good. Havent listened to something like that from korn in years, the last one I remember is Justin from Follow the leader.
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Apr 27, 2010, 03:08 AM
I heard that song leave me alone and gotta say it has a heavy vibe which is good. Havent listened to something like that from korn in years, the last one I remember is Justin from Follow the leader.
and that was a freaking awesome song!
Quote from: defTHE1s on Apr 29, 2010, 01:35 AM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Apr 27, 2010, 03:08 AM
I heard that song leave me alone and gotta say it has a heavy vibe which is good. Havent listened to something like that from korn in years, the last one I remember is Justin from Follow the leader.
and that was a freaking awesome song!
Along with seed and dead bodies everywhere :D
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Apr 29, 2010, 01:46 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Apr 29, 2010, 01:35 AM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Apr 27, 2010, 03:08 AM
I heard that song leave me alone and gotta say it has a heavy vibe which is good. Havent listened to something like that from korn in years, the last one I remember is Justin from Follow the leader.
and that was a freaking awesome song!
Along with seed and dead bodies everywhere :D
yeahh for sure dude!!
the new single is horrible and rehashes moments they created decades ago, rather than trying to take that energy and vibe to create something new. BORING. his lyrics are as bland and dumb as ever. and the worst part is how the vocals are layered in the mix. i couldnt even tell it was him at first.
theres only one vocal layer really, centered, so whats the problem? i'm a big fan but it's too unimaginitive. the chorus is catchy, but what about a good riff? some odd melodies? and a better groove man.. like really funky.
trying to go back to their roots. it's better than anything they've released post Issues though.
and to think there would be no korn or nu metal if steve vai got his guitar to be built how he originally wanted with a high A string instead.....
Quote from: wax on May 05, 2010, 07:36 PM
and to think there would be no korn or nu metal if steve vai got his guitar to be built how he originally wanted with a high A string instead.....
Deftones made their first 3 records with 6 strings guitar. And I consider them new metal, just they are the good and non-stagnant kind of it.
Still get your point, though. korn dependsway too much on having a low tone.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on May 10, 2010, 01:12 AM
Quote from: wax on May 05, 2010, 07:36 PM
and to think there would be no korn or nu metal if steve vai got his guitar to be built how he originally wanted with a high A string instead.....
Deftones made their first 3 records with 6 strings guitar. And I consider them new metal, just they are the good and non-stagnant kind of it.
Still get your point, though. korn dependsway too much on having a low tone.
i think korn set the blue print for the nu metal sound and lyric content -detuned guitar and john davis' whine bout life lyrics along with the hip hop influenced look i always thought of deftones as alt-metal that took the nu metal influence from korn when it came to the low guitars and maybe a tad of the look otherwise NOT nu metal, imo they just got easily lumped in cos of the time and playing together
its like zeppelin said after led zep 1v 'no one compared us to sabbath after that' mainly because of stairway wp was like zeps 1v, to me
I think that Deftones showed the world that they had so much more to offer and didn't deserve to be lumped in the nu-metal category with Around the Fur.White Pony cemented this.
I have to say I'm dissapointed with Oildale - it's sounds very unimaginitive.Even though I've never loved Korn nearly as much as Deftones I've always run out to buy their albums the day they're released.I don't see myself doing it this time unless the other tracks are better.
Ross RObinson is producing this time but it doesn't mean anything unless they have the songwriting to back it up.
For me Oildale shows just how much Deftones haved progressed while Korn have remained stagnant lately.
It just shows you that you don't need to go messing around with electronica to be experimental and to push the envelope.
Deftones have done it with brilliant songrwriting and unusual song structures.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on May 24, 2010, 03:31 PM
Oildale... stagnant..
how old is john d??! grow a fucking sac son and move the fuck on in life....
some of their music is ok lyrically a lot of crap and he doesnt have the greatest voice
The video came out today and is laughable, around 2:30 you can tell he cant sing anymore. The live version sounded better but it must have been the acoustic on the shows because studio version blows. Bye korn you are done already.
Korn was cool 12 years ago......
I was talking with Vesanic of it like a month ago and yeah they were great back in the day, especially with songs like lost, wicked and my favorite off Life is Peachy CHI !
Rip Korn 1994-1998
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Jun 01, 2010, 04:16 AM
I was talking with Vesanic of it like a month ago and yeah they were great back in the day, especially with songs like lost, wicked and my favorite off Life is Peachy CHI !
Rip Korn 1994-1998
yea man they used to be wicked. but nu-metal is over. thank god.
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Jun 01, 2010, 04:11 AM
The video came out today and is laughable
rocket skates and/or diamond eyes > oildale never considered myself a fan and it wont happen.. 39 years old and still bitching about being a kid... loser that video was shittier then the song korn need to hang it up next
is not that good as the old korn, but i'm glad at least it doesn't sound like their untitled album
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003P976BE/ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003P976BE/)
There you can listen to the samples of that CD
Seriously is that the sound of the first 2 CDs? LOL
Sounds like TALITM to me. Not bad but not great either.
Their new album is excellent. I don't care what anyone says. If Jonathan is still crying about his childhood or whatever, who cares. It's the music I care about.
Just like I'm not really fussed about Chino's obsession with pussies and sex for song lyrics :D
Although Jonathan sings about more than just being unhappy, there's a lot of spiritual references in there and it actually sounds like their energy is back. It helps that their new drummer is fuckin' brilliant.
Im going to check this album out.
New album is really cool.
At first I thought it sounded weak, but it does grow on you seeing as the production is like it used to be on albums - rough and interesting. I love how it brings back the feeling of albums in the 90's with bits of stuff at the start and end of songs.
There was nothing wrong with Nu-Metal as it's all a part of the evolution of metal music. Folks will be complaining of the current Morse-Code/SmartBoy/EarPlug/BoDiddly/Iron Maiden rip off bands in 3 years time as well.
Just check out the dynamics in their new album. More than what most albums have these days.
I d go check em out because they are playing Shoots N Ladders, Helmet In The Bush, Blind (I know), Need To AND Clown...if they came somewhere reasonably close, that is...
Ok, I'll download it, but if it's something similar to Untitled, DELETE!!
I thought it was a swell album,.
Listening to the samples i'm hearing the same familiar reasons why I never got into Korn back in the day
It's brilliant as an album.
The album just gets better and better.
Im actually really enjoying Pop A Pill and Fear is a Place to Live
Quote from: mr.sinister on Jul 17, 2010, 08:00 PM
Im actually really enjoying Pop A Pill and Fear is a Place to Live
Me too man, Fear Is... fuckin killer and Lead The Parade is just classic, fucked up, weird and crazy Korn. It's about time Jonathan did messed up vocals.
Korn is garbage now. I only have respect for them because they have done some great things for Chi. But unfortunately that doesn't make their music any better. And the new album cover flat out sucks.
I'm listening to Thoughtless, if you tell me that the album is much better than this song, I'll download it.
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now, please give me a link!! 8)
The album is just amazing. I keep hearing new stuff everytime I listen to it.
It's not a literal revisit of their early albums, it just has Korn written all over it and the sound/emotion of why I got into them in the first place.
The way it was recorded is brilliant and proves that everything doesn't have to be perfect.
I really enjoyed it. It has a lot of crazy guitar noises and great riffs everywhere. The best KoRn album in a lot of years, although I really liked the untitled LP.
Lead the Parade is some crazzy shitt! Love it.
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 18, 2010, 12:17 AM
I'm listening to Thoughtless
no matter how much I despise Korn, I can't help but find this song pretty awesome. at least they got something right.
Quote from: Jacob on Jul 21, 2010, 10:48 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 18, 2010, 12:17 AM
I'm listening to Thoughtless
no matter how much I despise Korn, I can't help but find this song pretty awesome. at least they got something right.
Yes, is at least one of the best from Untouchables.. this albums is like the worst to me, but nothing beats Untitled haha (being THE WORST)
Quote from: Mothman on Jul 21, 2010, 09:43 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 21, 2010, 04:28 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 18, 2010, 12:17 AM
now, please give me a link!! 8)
Here we go (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1G87N8T2).
thank you dude! I was about to upload that MOS Live you requested, but for sure it's on the Deftones D&R.. But if you can find what you're looking for, tell me and I'll see what can i do!
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 22, 2010, 02:46 AM
Quote from: Mothman on Jul 21, 2010, 09:43 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 21, 2010, 04:28 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 18, 2010, 12:17 AM
now, please give me a link!! 8)
Here we go (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1G87N8T2).
thank you dude! I was about to upload that MOS Live you requested, but for sure it's on the Deftones D&R.. But if you can find what you're looking for, tell me and I'll see what can i do!
I already got it! Thanks to that Downloads Thread and an old/new friend: Soulseek xD
Sad to hear what happend to this band. 90's Korn were good but they really should stop making music now.
They are just selling records now because they used to be good, just milking whatever is left of their trademark.
Bands don't get shit. It's myth.
Your interests just change that's all.
Music ain't good or bad - you just either like it or not.
I still like them and respect them for what they have done in the past, but i rather listen to Head's solo effort than to Korn 2000-->.
Although he's not the best singer out there,I think his songs have the quality i hear in Korn's first four records.
I think Untouchables are one of the worst rock records i own.
I guess you're generally right, Korn haven't released their best music in these last years, but this record, "Remember Who You Are", I do believe it's much better than Untitled and previous albums. It is simple, agressive and it has nice guitar riffs. They have simplified their music and the experiment sounds good.
To me, the most problematic fact is the question: "Did they do that because they needed that change artistically or they're just trying their sales to rise? :(
I like how RWYA is just so raw. The drumming is very impressive I think.
Quote from: nineteen on Jul 22, 2010, 06:32 PM
Bands don't get shit. It's myth.
Music ain't good or bad - you just either like it or not.
That's ridiculous.
Quote from: theis on Jul 23, 2010, 12:09 AM
Quote from: nineteen on Jul 22, 2010, 06:32 PM
Bands don't get shit. It's myth.
Music ain't good or bad - you just either like it or not.
That's ridiculous.
Well, what I'm trying to say is that someone may like the same song/album as much as someone else hating it. Nobody's opinion on it is the highest opinion so you just either like it or not. Like Art.
Probably not many people agree but it's how I try and live by music. Like I said above, even that opinion isn't valid for everyone - you'll either like it or hate it.
hahah that's such a fucking cop-out, I wish things were that simple buddy.
Who knows....but yeah I like their new album anyways. Definitely better than what I was expecting.
Korn arent such a bad band...they are still very active musicians and are touring and promoting in 2010, so it should be a good year for them.
I got re-aquainted with Korn recently through reading Fieldy's auto-biography "Got the life"
i recommend the book to anyone who reads "rock star" bio's..its really good...Fieldy really lived it up through Korn..enjoyed lots of alcohol,drugs,parties,money,fame....he lives the life that only a succesful band can afford a person, proving that they cant suck as much as some people say they do....coz Fieldy's life is fucking great!! : ):)
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Aug 17, 2010, 10:30 AM
Korn arent such a bad band...they are still very active musicians and are touring and promoting in 2010, so it should be a good year for them.
I got re-aquainted with Korn recently through reading Fieldy's auto-biography "Got the life"
i recommend the book to anyone who reads "rock star" bio's..its really good...Fieldy really lived it up through Korn..enjoyed lots of alcohol,drugs,parties,money,fame....he lives the life that only a succesful band can afford a person, proving that they cant suck as much as some people say they do....coz Fieldy's life is fucking great!! : ):)
many people in many bands have had wild and crazy and interesting lives. take everyone in motley crue for example. motley crue still fucking blows. your point makes no sense.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Aug 20, 2010, 04:46 PM
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Aug 17, 2010, 10:30 AM
Korn arent such a bad band...they are still very active musicians and are touring and promoting in 2010, so it should be a good year for them.
I got re-aquainted with Korn recently through reading Fieldy's auto-biography "Got the life"
i recommend the book to anyone who reads "rock star" bio's..its really good...Fieldy really lived it up through Korn..enjoyed lots of alcohol,drugs,parties,money,fame....he lives the life that only a succesful band can afford a person, proving that they cant suck as much as some people say they do....coz Fieldy's life is fucking great!! : ):)
many people in many bands have had wild and crazy and interesting lives. take everyone in motley crue for example. motley crue still fucking blows. your point makes no sense.
Oh well...
Korn - Get Up (Featuring Skrillex) (Full Song) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lqq5QwApjs#)
wat
i really dislike korn but really like skrillex and really like this song
Quotemany people in many bands have had wild and crazy and interesting lives. take everyone in motley crue for example. motley crue still fucking blows. your point makes no sense.
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
what the hell is a skrillex
This is a joke, and the worst joke I've ever had the chance to witness.
i actually saw korn live a couple weeks ago with disturbed. got free tickets. the whole time i was thinking "if i was 14 i'd be losing my shit right now" but i'm 23 so i just hung out in the beer area and drank. still for nostalgia it was a fun show.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 21, 2011, 10:09 AM
This is a joke, and the worst joke I've ever had the chance to witness.
Agreed!!!!!!
This is really one of the worst things I've heard in a long time - Korn should hang their heads in shame! :'(
why is Korn dubstep now?
why is korn still around
The metal and dubstep crowd are very split, some metalheads love dubstep while others despise it. I'm one of those metalheads who loves dubstep, but don't get me wrong, I don't like korn anymore. they helped shape my childhood and introduced me to other bands, but the reason I gave up on them is because Jon Davis doesn't seem to have his life together at all, and not in an interesting way. The band keeps falling apart, losing members, and 'reinventing' themselves as if they're struggling to find a place in the music scene. I get the impression that they don't really care much about music, and have opted to just keep trying new things until one of their albums sells 200k again.
It took 20+ yrs, but Deftones have become larger than korn in many ways.
But instead of chino forcing dubstep on the band, he plays around with side projects. that's something jon davis never did. some things should remain true to style, even shitty music like korn.
I think the new dubstep korn sounds slighly less shitty than the last korn albums.
the two songs I've heard so far I actually can dig. Not calling myself a fan, and it's a little weird listening to them, but I don't hate them. It's the sort of thing I just feel shouldnt be titled a korn record. but whatever.
Their upcoming LA show is gonna be so funny. I bet half the crowd will leave after 12th planet plays.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Nov 11, 2011, 06:23 PM
I think the new dubstep korn sounds slighly less shitty than the last korn albums.
totally agree, actually im quote curious to hear the full album and this is from a guy who hasnt been into korn since Issues came out, kinda felt they went in loop mode foward that, but i havent listened to any of them in full, it bothers me on the fourth/fifth song. I liked the songs with Skrillex, wanna hear the rest.
wonder why Korn is still playing...they were pretty much done after Head left.
Jon Davis is a sold out guy.
any band that has ever made a cent on their music has sold out. so shut the fuck up.
Love,
Jon Hughes
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Nov 14, 2011, 09:58 PM
any band that has ever made a cent on their music has sold out. so shut the fuck up.
Love,
Jon Hughes
don't care about that.
the fact is that Korn sucks and it's embarrasing that they are still around.
Deftones were smart by moving away from that Nu metal scene.
But deftones were never really nu-metal.
Quote from: cesar421 on Nov 15, 2011, 09:03 PM
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Nov 14, 2011, 09:58 PM
any band that has ever made a cent on their music has sold out. so shut the fuck up.
Love,
Jon Hughes
don't care about that.
the fact is that Korn sucks and it's embarrasing that they are still around.
Deftones were smart by moving away from that Nu metal scene.
They suck yet they're so loaded and just keep going ;)
ATTENTION: KORN SUCKS
THAT IS ALL
:)
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Nov 11, 2011, 05:51 PM
I get the impression that they don't really care much about music, and have opted to just keep trying new things until one of their albums sells 200k again.
It took 20+ yrs, but Deftones have become larger than korn in many ways.
But instead of chino forcing dubstep on the band, he plays around with side projects. that's something jon davis never did. some things should remain true to style, even shitty music like korn.
Very true.
Another difference is that Chino and Deftones have class and Korn doesn't.
Deftones don't need to use gimmicks in their music because they know it's timeless.
That's what I've always loved about Deftones - they know their strengths and they play to them.
Deftones have pushed boundaries by way of their songwriting and song structures and haven't needed to introduce gimmicks such as electronics (remember the late 90's when every alternative band seemed to be doing this) or dubstep or anything like that.
Chino is an incredible songwriter, Jon - well he isn't.
Just compare the two's lyrics!
I don't think that korn's music ever had the scope and variety that Deftones did and Deftones are definitely bigger than Korn now, as evident by both bands respective last album sales.
I expect Korn to lose even more of their fanbase as a result of these awful dubstep experiments.
Sad because I still like their older stuff but they just seem to be going through the motions these days, more interested in regaining their lost popularity than with making quality music.
http://www.nme.com/news/korn/60843?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.nme.com/news/korn/60843?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
i didn't think Korn could any more ridiculous or pathetic, but then J. Davis tries to be political
Fuck Revolver.
The green CD is Korn new album
South Park-Tween-Wave sounds like Crap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B7Bo_OVR9c#)
its not that bad... best work since untouchables.
From kornrow.com
QuoteBrian 'Head' Welch will play with Korn as a 'special guest' for next year's Rock am Ring & Rock im Ring in Germany. Rock am Ring will take place on June 7-9, 2013.
Brian's current band Love and Death are preparing to release their anticipated "Between Here & Lost" album which is now slated for a January 22nd release on Tooth & Nail Records.
Korn are also preparing the recording of their 11th studio album in Bakersfield, California. It's currently unknown if Head will contribute material to Korn's album.
This will be the 2nd time Head has played with Korn since departing the band in 2004. He performed "Blind" with Korn at this year's edition of Carolina Rebellion festival.
I haven't been a KoRn fan for quite some time now but I'll check this out. The band desperately needs Head back.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 08, 2012, 04:04 PM
From kornrow.com
QuoteBrian 'Head' Welch will play with Korn as a 'special guest' for next year's Rock am Ring & Rock im Ring in Germany. Rock am Ring will take place on June 7-9, 2013.
Brian's current band Love and Death are preparing to release their anticipated "Between Here & Lost" album which is now slated for a January 22nd release on Tooth & Nail Records.
Korn are also preparing the recording of their 11th studio album in Bakersfield, California. It's currently unknown if Head will contribute material to Korn's album.
This will be the 2nd time Head has played with Korn since departing the band in 2004. He performed "Blind" with Korn at this year's edition of Carolina Rebellion festival.
I haven't been a KoRn fan for quite some time now but I'll check this out. The band desperately needs Head back.
I was a big Korn fan in the late 90's early 2000's. Follow the Leader will always be one of my favorite albums. The guitar and bass were just so unique and powerful at the time. That said, it's kind of sad how badly they have regressed. I think their main problem is Jonathan's desire to be so pop when it's just not cut out for that band. They had it going on with their first 3 or 4 albums but really went down hill fast after that. Their dubstep album isn't bad but it's hard to get into something when you feel the guys have totally sold out. I would like to see Head back with them for some live shows though. Maybe he could help them recapture some of their old magic. I always thought he was the main one that brought the goods for that band.
That brings up a good question of weather or not for the 2 shows they'll be playing with Head if they'll be playing any tunes he didn't appear on.
KoRn started to totally suck after Hed went...and saying that Untouchables was only good for Here To Stay!!!??
I still go back sometimes to ST, LIP, FTL and Issues and think shit man you guys were pretty awesome! What happened?
Quote from: DJR on Nov 08, 2012, 09:46 PM
KoRn started to totally suck after Hed went...and saying that Untouchables was only good for Here To Stay!!!??
I still go back sometimes to ST, LIP, FTL and Issues and think shit man you guys were pretty awesome! What happened?
I know man... everything beyond Untouchables, MAYBE TALITM is just garbage...
Heads back? anyone give a fuck?
Quote from: normsteez on May 04, 2013, 03:28 AM
Heads back? anyone give a fuck?
Lol that's what I thought when they announced it
well... i like what i hear on the trailer
http://youtu.be/W-4K4M_Kdd4 (http://youtu.be/W-4K4M_Kdd4)
uhhhhmm... Head is back together with Korn?
They always get so much shit and I'm not sure why. Loved Korn back in the day and a fan of their later stuff too.
I don't have a problem with Korn at all, i'm just not into that style of music, I could see maybe how they could play the same bill with the deftones between '93-'96, but even then Deftones have always been about R&B and melodies and have grown more and more into that each record. to me deftones has always been about powerful soul melodies and lyrics driven by the best guitar tone of all time.
And oh yes, about fame, do you really care about how well your favorite bands do on the charts or whatever? is that what attracts you to music, or the sound of it, what it says to your soul, how it makes you feel? If anything I like my favorite bands to just touch the mainstream enough to have success to keep they're thing going, that's it.
No matter what you think about them, they had always been progressing artistically until Untouchables -to me that album stands next to their S/T and Issues as a classic. They had had a pretty impressive and interesting carreer til 2002.
Then the joke started in '03 with TALITM. SYOTOS was ok, had some good tracks but overall lacked Head's playing. Untitled (really? couldn't find a better name ?) was the same kind of album only less good. Then came the even lamer-titled Korn III blablablah -which made TALITM seems like a great album- and finally...Skrillex happened.
What happened to these guys seriously. I mean they never really had ethic -the adidas/puma partnerships, sucking MTV's dick with the contests and everything, "Y'all want a single fuck that"...gimme a break- but at least they were making good or even great music.
I'll check out a couple of live videos to see Head out of curiosity but they definitely lost me over the years of bullshit. And I mean, as a fan, I stuck for a while.
if david would join the band and they were whole again, it would be cool to seem them live again
Quote from: normsteez on May 10, 2013, 02:18 AM
if david would join the band and they were whole again, it would be cool to seem them live again
I thought david is dead :(
sometimes I wonder where people take their wrong information from in times of internet and search engines..
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=186050 (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=186050)
Media Mikes: Is there any chance [original KORN] drummer David Silveria will be back as well?
Welch: No. David has really said some crazy things online about personal things and he's not in a place where people would really want him around. That happened before I talked with them, but I guess the things he said were really crazy. Those guys were in a band together for so long, so I don't know, but for now it's just not going to happen.
Quote from: Gee on May 10, 2013, 01:42 AM
No matter what you think about them, they had always been progressing artistically until Untouchables -to me that album stands next to their S/T and Issues as a classic. They had had a pretty impressive and interesting carreer til 2002.
Then the joke started in '03 with TALITM. SYOTOS was ok, had some good tracks but overall lacked Head's playing. Untitled (really? couldn't find a better name ?) was the same kind of album only less good. Then came the even lamer-titled Korn III blablablah -which made TALITM seems like a great album- and finally...Skrillex happened.
What happened to these guys seriously. I mean they never really had ethic -the adidas/puma partnerships, sucking MTV's dick with the contests and everything, "Y'all want a single fuck that"...gimme a break- but at least they were making good or even great music.
I'll check out a couple of live videos to see Head out of curiosity but they definitely lost me over the years of bullshit. And I mean, as a fan, I stuck for a while.
They were in the Van for years before they got to the level of fame that started to arise at the start of Life Is Peachy. Even in their bands before, so they put in their work.
They did lose their path a bit I must admit but at least they tried experimenting with stuff.
Quote from: normsteez on May 10, 2013, 02:18 AM
if david would join the band and they were whole again, it would be cool to seem them live again
Why? Ray Luzier is an overall better drummer.
Quote from: iceache on May 10, 2013, 11:23 PM
Quote from: normsteez on May 10, 2013, 02:18 AM
if david would join the band and they were whole again, it would be cool to seem them live again
Why? Ray Luzier is an overall better drummer.
I dont know who he is, I am just saying Korn was one of the few bands that I really liked in grade school other than deftones. The first album and life is peachy are classics. It was just be cool to see them whole again
Quote from: normsteez on May 11, 2013, 02:26 AM
Quote from: iceache on May 10, 2013, 11:23 PM
Quote from: normsteez on May 10, 2013, 02:18 AM
if david would join the band and they were whole again, it would be cool to seem them live again
Why? Ray Luzier is an overall better drummer.
I dont know who he is, I am just saying Korn was one of the few bands that I really liked in grade school other than deftones. The first album and life is peachy are classics. It was just be cool to see them whole again
he's their new drummer, you can put his name into YouTube search he's got a few videos of him playing.
Quote from: iceache on May 11, 2013, 08:39 AM
Quote from: normsteez on May 11, 2013, 02:26 AM
Quote from: iceache on May 10, 2013, 11:23 PM
Quote from: normsteez on May 10, 2013, 02:18 AM
if david would join the band and they were whole again, it would be cool to seem them live again
Why? Ray Luzier is an overall better drummer.
I dont know who he is, I am just saying Korn was one of the few bands that I really liked in grade school other than deftones. The first album and life is peachy are classics. It was just be cool to see them whole again
he's their new drummer, you can put his name into YouTube search he's got a few videos of him playing.
Ray breathed new life back into the drums with Korn. David's drumming was spot on until his arms got knackered and had to have an operation.
KoRn were awesome Pre Untouchables and got me into ALOT of music i love now....
Quote from: DJR on May 11, 2013, 02:41 PM
KoRn were awesome Pre Untouchables and got me into ALOT of music i love now....
same here.
I loved Korn more then deftones back then, around issues.
take a look in the mirror was also a good album, way better then untouchables.
Quote from: DJR on May 11, 2013, 02:41 PM
KoRn were awesome Pre Untouchables and got me into ALOT of music i love now....
I'm just now getting into Korn but I have to agree with the first part.
Life Is Peachy is their best album in my opinion.
That was metal!
The Path of Totality is shit. It's not even Korn, it's just Jonathan Davis singing over dubstep beats.
KoRn released a new single called "Never, Never". It's been getting overwhelmingly negative feedback from fans and the album has now been pushed back another week to October 8th. Panic mode perhaps?
Personally, I think it's fucking horrible. An electronic pop song that is so nauseatingly radio friendly it makes me embarrassed for them. The biggest story for this band in the last 8 years is that Head is finally back in the band and to kick off the release of new material with him they put out a song that features little to no guitars. Does that make any sense to anyone? They should have started off strong and celebrated their guitar players return by putting out a song that showcases that sound but they've once again shot themselves in the foot. Sadly this seems to be a trend for KoRn now, any time they have any excitement built up they end up putting out the most disappointing and underwhelming material ever.
I gave up on KoRn a long time ago but I was actually starting to get excited about this album. Well maybe excited is the wrong word but I was definitely curious. They used to be one of my favourite bands but after Head left and "See You On The Other Side" came out I walked away in shame. I still root for them to get back on track but every time they put something out I seem to keep saying "No guys! This is even worse than that last lazy crap you put out! Stop shooting yourself in the foot every time an opportunity to do something worthwhile comes around!".
This song is fucking garbage and once again I'll be walking away from the KoRn camp and accept that at this point they're probably beyond saving. The link is below if you wanna poison your ears with this rubbish but if you've heard "The Path of Totality" then you might as well just skip it.
https://soundcloud.com/kornzone-1/never-never-hq (https://soundcloud.com/kornzone-1/never-never-hq)
Yeah it's fucking horrible as much as I want to see a band like Korn do well they just seem so creatively bankrupt, it's really interesting to me though because korn and deftones were always linked and compared to each other in their early days and the paths they've gone is sort of like an example of how a band should age and how one shouldn't I know alot of people don't dig the new Deftones stuff but for every old fan that doesn't like it is a new fan that loves it, Korn isn't losing fans because their doing something new it's because the music itself is bad they've just been reduced to making pop/dubstep songs in an attempt to stay relevant,you can say what you like about Deftones but they never run out of ideas like Korn obviously have, it's getting fucking pathetic I hoped Heads return might spark some life back into the music but it's just declined to a new low.
It's only one song. Might fit in with the album's flow and the other songs may be heavier.
Most people just prematurely freak out and decide that one song = the whole album. I think people lost this thing that people had back in the day: Patience.
Quote from: nineteen on Aug 18, 2013, 05:33 PM
It's only one song. Might fit in with the album's flow and the other songs may be heavier.
Most people just prematurely freak out and decide that one song = the whole album. I think people lost this thing that people had back in the day: Patience.
You're absolutely right. There have been numerous albums over the ages that have shit singles, despite it being a great album. However, this is Korn we're talkin' about. Think about the last couple of albums, especially The Path of Totality. "Get Up!" was garbage, but I gave it a chance, and I found that the album was even worse. "Never Never" is nothing more than your generic, pop-rock radio tune. I have a feeling this is gonna turn out like Megadeth's newest album. Just a shame...
Quote from: x Rx King x on Aug 20, 2013, 02:36 PM
"Never Never" is nothing more than your generic, pop-rock radio tune.
Sadly it is. I am glad they're not doing dubstep for this album, but geez.
What happened, Korn? What the hell happened?
Love and Meth
http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/28835/New-Korn-Track-Leaked (http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/28835/New-Korn-Track-Leaked)
they're problem is the same as any band that finds a lot of success. Drugs, "fame", money and too many girls. they all get soft, stop living reality and make horrible art. then break up and go through the phases while the music absolutely suffers. I haven't really known any really successful band this didn't happen too...I remember hearing some of the newer stuff a few years ago and thought it was cool, but I just don't care, its not what I'm looking for. but it in reality it probably is cool, especially considering most people really don't have any reason to even consider themselves music lovers if alls they want is the same droning guitars, same sound over and over and over and over and over.
I think there's a war within the band that Jonathan Davis loves Electronic Dance Music now and the others want to play heavy metal, so that's why they've been infused. But I find it ironic that Love and Death's debut album (Head's band) is better than any album Korn has done since he left, so it just goes to show who wrote all the good stuff back in the day.
Even the song Love and Meth could easily fit on Issues or Untouchables and blatantly inspired by Head's return. As a musician, I've given all their releases a go and they're all good for what they are, but I'm really expecting good things from this new album now that Head is back.... we shall see.
Kinda dig Love & Meth although it just seem patchy and pasted together.
At least it sounds like Korn; well, the 2nd stage Korn anyway.
I actually enjoy Love and Meth quite a bit...
All I can say is their new album is a return to form, it's fucking excellent. From beginning to end and it's getting better with every listen. And this is all because of Head returning, the guy is a musical genius.
They seriously trolled everyone with Never, Never. That's for sure.
I dig it. It's got some weak moments but it's also got some pretty awesome moments. It's the KoRn album I've been waiting for for 10 years. Not a masterpiece but an excellent return to form.
jonathan is a ron paul republican. I hope he gets back on drugs as a result and realizes his folly.
Quote from: Subliminal on Oct 02, 2013, 07:07 PM
They seriously trolled everyone with Never, Never. That's for sure.
They certainly did. The rest of the album sounds much better.
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on Oct 03, 2013, 01:21 AM
jonathan is a ron paul republican. I hope he gets back on drugs as a result and realizes his folly.
Interesting to see this album's sales, alot less than usual... Week on week KNY sold more in it's first 2 weeks.
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