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NEW! Interview w/ Chino regarding Team Sleep.

Started by 13hourstoparadise, Dec 13, 2007, 08:29 PM

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13hourstoparadise

EDIT: This is the first release of the interview, so you guys got it here first, enjoy!

(Letters in bold are quotes from Chino)

Chino Moreno remains one of the most enigmatic frontmen to ever grace a stage. His unmistakable voice has proved an influence for a whole generation of bands, and his entrancing, yet cathartic performances are undeniable. With Deftones, he helped redefine alternative music. Their sound combined his unbridled emotional vocals with precise riffs and swirling, ethereal textures for an intriguing brand of post-grunge rock all its own.

However, a true artist needs more than one canvas. So, in Team Sleep, Chino brings trip-hop and warm guitar rock together in one musical collective. The band's self-titled debut pulled fans into Chino's world completely, and their upcoming series of digital EPs will take them further down the rabbit hole. While on the road with Team Sleep for a special run of winter tour dates, he sits backstage and delves into every facet of his creative process for ARTISTdirect.

I know your influences are pretty diverse. They range from post punk like Morrissey and The Cure to ambient jazz, like Bohren and Der Club of Gore, to distorted rock, like The Smashing Pumpkins. Is Team Sleep your way to channel all of your collective influences into one project?

Yeah, it hasn't been something that's really planned though. It's actually been the rawest way of making music. For one, the different musicians involved in Team Sleep make it a bit whacky on its own. [Drummer] Zach Hill and DJ Crook come from two completely different worlds musically. But when they come together, it's massive. To me, the music is like the most punk, hip hop shit in a way [laughs]. Punk and hip hop are two influences I grew up with. Getting into the new wave stuff, that comes into play with my vocal style. Obviously, like you said, The Smashing Pumpkins are also a big inspiration. I love guitar driven rock. We really took a lot of influences from that stuff and Jane's Addiction as well. Really melodic, dynamic guitars inspire me—not power chords so much—but discord notes. The jazzy Bohren and Der Club of Gore stuff is also big for me. During all of the drone-y, ambient stuff that we do, those influences come into play. Ultimately, Team Sleep is a mixture of everything that I like and have grown up liking.

Team Sleep's music has always been highly visual. Is it your goal to tell stories and evoke emotions with these songs?

It's not so much to tell stories, but it's to set a mood. Live, we actually have visuals that we're using. The music actually sets the mood, and the picture just adds to it. You get to see, and you get to visualize. For me, that's been one of my favorite things to do right now—melding visuals with music—and that's been one of my most fun hobbies. The Team Sleep music is probably one of the best types of music to add visuals to.

I think so. It seems like it's almost easier for you to create with Team Sleep because there are no boundaries. Is that the case?

Well if you had to compare it to Deftones, yeah. I think with Deftones we built a career on this really aggressive rock music. For Deftones, we have been incorporating a lot of different sounds into our songs, but the sound is generally like a hard-edged groove. I guess there are boundaries where we have to add certain elements in our music to make it what it is in Deftones. With Team Sleep, there are no boundaries like that. So it is a little different.

Also, it seems like the Team Sleep music comes really naturally for the five you. Is the new music on the digital EPs an evolution from the material on your debut?

Yeah, these EP songs have been done a little differently too. The debut has more of a "live" feel. We basically recorded all of that stuff together, so it sounded more like a band. Whereas a lot of the EP stuff is more electronic, and it was composed individually. Now the next record, which we plan on releasing in 2010 or after, will be our second full length record that we go in and make like a band. There are actually two ways that I think Team Sleep can work. I wouldn't say either way is better. I just think it's fun to be able to do both.

In addition to creating in two separate ways, it seems you have two mindsets too: that electronic side and that loud guitar side.

I don't think of it as two sides of my brain or anything. It all seems pretty natural for me. I don't know when I click in and out of each one [laughs]. My goal is to mend all of that together and make it cohesive in one piece of music.

Does this new material cover the same vast spectrum of emotions that the Team Sleep debut did? "Blvd Knights" has a lovelorn feel while "Our Ride to the Rectory" has an almost idyllic summer vibe. Is that whole range of emotion represented in the new songs?

Yeah, I definitely think so. Some of the new stuff reminds me of the sounds of nature in a way. There's some material that sounds like machinery to me. If you think about technology and nature, they're worlds apart. I try and represent that wide range and everything in between. It's like to my left, there's the super hi-tech electronic weird shit and to my right, there's the very organic lo-fi stuff.

Is covering that fine line between nature and future tough for you as a writer?

It's a challenge. One of the biggest things I appreciate in music is when people blend organic instrumentation with electronic instrumentation. It has the potential to be really lame, and it's easy to screw up. The mood has to be right. If it works, it really works. So with Team Sleep, we have a lot of stuff that's unused. With Deftones, we pretty much write what we put on our records, and we maybe have one our two tracks left over. However, while writing for Team Sleep, there is a ton of music. So we're picking and choosing to make a cohesive record.

The Team Sleep aesthetic has that '70s washed out vibe, is that a time that's always been really inspiring for you?

Yeah, anything like that is always really nostalgic for me. It really just comes from growing up then. To me, that's what it looked like when I was a kid. All of the pictures that I have of my childhood, they all look like that (laughs). That film is all "Super-8" style. So it's nostalgic for me. I love to find old videos and old footage from that era. With this, I'm trying to incorporate a lot of different elements. That stuff is really organic, and it kind of brings you back to the feeling of being in the 70's and growing up [laughs].

It's cool, because so much great art—both music and movies—came out of the time. There was something in the air.

I think so. It was also kind of creepy. A lot of that stuff really has a creepy vibe for me. That's part of the reason I like it though. I like stuff when it's very vague: any films, photos, music or lyrics in general. I'm really attracted to vague stuff that you really don't know what to think of. For me, that's a good feeling. That stuff has that fascinating seedy element too. It's creeped its way into all of the stuff we do—whether it be via Deftones or Team Sleep. It's in any music or video shoot we work on.

You've always been able to explore emotions on a transcendent level where you convey your feelings, but the lyrics are abstract.

That's one of my favorite things about music and what I try to do. It's taken from my influences, like Morrissey and The Cure, where I drew from that vibe. I remember I'd sit in my room as a kid, and I had all of The Cure tapes. The cassettes I had didn't have the lyrics in them. So I'd play the songs over and over again and write the lyrics out by hand. Then I would just read the lyrics without the music. I remember thinking some of the stuff that Robert Smith was saying was so random, especially on Pornography. It's very vague, but it leaves you with this feeling. He's painting these little pictures, but in no way do you know what's really going on. I honestly think that's what influenced me to start writing that way. I didn't realize I was doing it until I began to look back, because those were some of the lyrics I was really into. I based it on that.

What's the plan for the digital EPs?

We have a lot of tracks ready. The quality is the way that it should be. It's mostly electronic stuff, and I don't think it should be re-recorded, because it sounds really awesome as is. It's all going to be released for free online.

You've told me before how inspired you get from so many different forms of art. Are you going to branch out into other artistic avenues?

I definitely want to do more visual stuff. I also want to continue to make music for as long as I possibly can. Piano is one of my favorite things right now. I really want to try and advance in that. More than anything, I want to try and grow musically. Also I want to do video stuff. Scoring comes to mind as something I want to do. Possibly one day, I'd love to write, direct, score and produce a movie of my own. That's an ultimate goal for me. I don't how good it'd be, but it'd be fun [laughs].

Is it hard to still find inspiration after creating for so long and being in bands since you were a kid?

No, the music really is the inspiration. Any time I pick up a guitar or play a piano that inspires me right there. Two notes that come together will inspire a whole idea. It's nice to be happy when you feel like you're in kind of a bad place in your head. I think some good stuff musically will come out, but mostly you tire yourself living like that. I think over the last couple years, I've had a change in my personal life. It's gotten way better, and I think it's really helped me musically as well. Like with a lot of this new Deftones stuff, the writing we're doing is probably some of the most expedited material. We've been writing, and it's been going so quickly. Everybody's been really open, and it's been an amazing experience making our sixth record. We're having fun doing it now. I think that's the most important thing: to have fun while we're doing it.

That's why you play music and why you started.

The reality of it is that it can't always be like that. There has to be ups and downs. I think the down period was over the last few years with the making of Deftones. That was pretty dark. When we went into making Saturday Night Wrist, I think that's where everything just fell apart. Obviously, then everything came back together. From that point on, our relationships in the band have just been growing into something way more solid than they ever were. It's a really positive thing right now.

Inkblades

Good interview, man. Him being into piano is  very exciting. That means more stuff like AOAUE, FYIHYD, Xerces and Formant *drools*




goldpony

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Corleone

 I guess there are boundaries where we have to add certain elements in our music to make it what it is in Deftones.


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weakcure

Hahaha, I so gave him the "punk, hip hop" quote. He told me not to quote him on that... ;)

Thanks for sharing.

fallon

awesome interview! that is so cool that chino wants to make a movie of his own.  :)

tarkil

Good read indeed.... Thanks for the sharing mate... :)



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Deftones-argentina

good interview, very introspective questions (Y). I'm glod to know that chino's lyrics are kinda inspired in robert's.

13hourstoparadise

When I was chillin' on the tour bus with Todd, Chino, and Crook Elvis was being played on Chino's laptop, I asked to hear XO but he couldn't find it. In reference to the above mention of Chino playing piano.

So, speaking of which, has ANYONE found Deftones - XO for download yet? Jeeeesssuuusss...