Korn

[TheProzacFairy]

good post Ry, super duper bapooper karma kick for you homie haha,
but yeah i must agree the first 3 albums are classics, the 4th one was..eh dissapointing there was a few good songs on there but nothing special. Now all the new stuff they have out is just boring and the music sounds like caca to me. 

[Moz La Punk]

Great post man. I agree with all the stuff you said.

I dont think Life is peachy is classic material at all...

[fireflyry]

Great post man. I agree with all the stuff you said.

I dont think Life is peachy is classic material at all...

I like it for what it is, a roughly thrown together album written in two weeks.There's some great tracks but I feel as a whole it's certainly a weaker album.Follow The Leader was a better example of what they could do when given the luxury of more time to write.

It's just pity they partied so hard for the next 5 years.

[DeftonesATF27]

To begin with KoRn and Deftones were never really that tight of friends. They sipped a couple brews together. And i think KoRn's so called success used as an excuse in Ry's post was to me the biggest reason they suck. Ever since they had a chance they fuckin Conformed and made music that they knew would get them were they wanted to go which was to the top of the pops and to rock puma socks. and shoes. They are born sellouts. The deftones to me always had more pressure to make a Top of the Pops record. and they never did, becasue there not only a better band but they have this Genious of a band leader named Chino Moreno (dont know if you've heard of him) and hes also in charge of the "creative Direction" which basically means he sees and image of where he wants to take the band and follows through. Every record the deftones make is the next "big" thing, but its funny chino is so defiant of making Radio music it always comes out REAL.

So basically to me KoRn are a bunch of FUCK UPS. They wanted fame and thats what they got. Stuff like Brian Welch leaving goes along with the fame. so enjoy those 3 burnt out KoRn Records and i dont even wanna waste my keyboard on dissing those so called other albums.

[fireflyry]

To begin with KoRn and Deftones were never really that tight of friends.

Wrong.One of a million such examples from the mouth of Chino.

drDrew.com: Bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit are releasing new records every year now. Would you like to do that?

CM: Not really. I've been friends with Korn from the beginning and I know they're a great band. I would hope they would spend more time [on their next CD] and get back to what drives them to make music. I mean their first record is one of the best records of the "90s. When you put records out that fast, it's obvious they're not gonna be as pristine as they possibly could. [They're] kind of going through the motions. That's kind of asshole of me just to say, but to put out a record, you have to live life and get the experiences that make these songs. If you're constantly just putting out music, it's not gonna have depth to it.

My favorite thing about [Korn] was the realness of [their music]. After knowing them personally and seeing them [recently], they've lost a little bit of that. As a fan, I would hope they spend more time making music with more of the intensity they had in the beginning. That's just me being honest. I don't think that's me talking shit at all.

[DeftonesATF27]

To begin with KoRn and Deftones were never really that tight of friends.

Wrong.One of a million such examples from the mouth of Chino.

drDrew.com: Bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit are releasing new records every year now. Would you like to do that?

CM: Not really. I've been friends with Korn from the beginning and I know they're a great band. I would hope they would spend more time [on their next CD] and get back to what drives them to make music. I mean their first record is one of the best records of the "90s. When you put records out that fast, it's obvious they're not gonna be as pristine as they possibly could. [They're] kind of going through the motions. That's kind of asshole of me just to say, but to put out a record, you have to live life and get the experiences that make these songs. If you're constantly just putting out music, it's not gonna have depth to it.

My favorite thing about [Korn] was the realness of [their music]. After knowing them personally and seeing them [recently], they've lost a little bit of that. As a fan, I would hope they spend more time making music with more of the intensity they had in the beginning. That's just me being honest. I don't think that's me talking shit at all.

If your gonna dig that out of my post like that, i could go dig up a bunch of other quotes that would defend your case. For all we know there the tightest friends in the world. or not. but we'll never know. And that shit didnt really prove anything, ive read that many times.

[fireflyry]

Get real man.

Were you a fan circa 96-98?

They toured together, did regular interviews together and there was hardly an interview where they did'nt give each other props?

You don't do a track like "Wicked" or name a song Chi (Song Meaning:The song was named after Chi Cheng from the Deftones. We named it after him because he used to call it reggae, and he loves reggae music.-Kerang 99) because your a casual aquaintence with someone.

[DeftonesATF27]

Get real man.

Were you a fan circa 96-98?

They toured together, did regular interviews together and there was hardly an interview where they did'nt give each other props?

You don't do a track like "Wicked" or name a song Chi (Song Meaning:The song was named after Chi Cheng from the Deftones. We named it after him because he used to call it reggae, and he loves reggae music.-Kerang 99) because your a casual aquaintence with someone.

Ha your pathetic you think all that shit really means that much? When did they tour together besides being on the same bill as ozzy back in 95? oh yeah i forgot those shows back in 94 at the whiskey. When did they do interviews together? Im on Chino's side, as always. Cause i know he was only talking nicely of them so there wouldnt be beef. read between the lines. As for being a fan in 96-98 i got introduced to them in Christmas 98 i remember that shit, i was only 11, what were you doing when you were 11?

Why do you want them to be friends so badly?

[Breach Unborn]

s/t is great. prolly one of my favorite 10 or 15 cd's. extremely raw
life is peachy is cool. a lot of different flavor on it.
follow the leader was cool also. it was the start of their popularity, but had some really good songs.
after that it's like hit or miss. i've given all of their cd's a chance. it seems like there are a couple songs here or there that i like, but for the most part i could do without them

[DeftonesATF27]

Issues was the start of there demise. I dont think any rock band should release an album less than 2 years from there previous effort. Spend some time on it, make it good. Dont fill it with fillers.

[fireflyry]

Ha your pathetic you think all that shit really means that much?

Why do you want them to be friends so badly?

What's your deal with getting personal when your proved wrong?

Your obviously mis-informed and I don't want them to be friends, they were tight and still are.

Fact.

[DeftonesATF27]

Theres no proof in what your saying thats the problem, you depend on bullshit you read which is sad, cause ive read all the same shit you've read. I go to the interview section too. But yes i shouldnt have gotten personal, although i felt you did too.

[fireflyry]

Theres no proof in what your saying thats the problem, you depend on bullshit you read which is sad, cause ive read all the same shit you've read. I go to the interview section too. But yes i shouldnt have gotten personal, although i felt you did too.

I never made a personal slight man.

The thread is about Korn and you basically said they were'nt friends with the Deftones and then rambled on about how Chino is the shit and Korn suck.

Interviews are proof, they are legally obliged to be accurate and both bands have always admitted to being close friends on a regular basis.

Do you really think Chino would lie about who he is friends with just to avoid conflict?

Anyway....

[Fireal1222]

honestly. i think all of there albums suck


if you wanna hear deftones, showing korn whats up, listen to the song. nosebleed

[lifter]

ive always liked the first 3 albums. always have , always will i suppose. but, Life Is Peachy is my favorite out of all.

[comfortably_numb]

The people that think Korn has always sucked, listen to Porno Creep from life is peachy and then think again.

[DeftonesATF27]

Just to be on the positive side at one point i did like KoRn. Literally when i was like 9 and 10. My brother is 9 years older than me and he was into them from the start, so i always heard there shit and got interested in them when i was real young, i thought it was amazing how heavy it was and liked how crazy Jon was at headbanging. I bought the Who then now video and liked them more cause they had fun and thats what all this shit is about is fun. Drinkin Beer and havin fun. Then i discovered the tones when i was 11, didnt nesesarrly like them when i first heard MOS i just thought it was cool ass star wars shit. later on it Kept growing on me and i realized the reltionship between both bands but never really understood the comparisons in the music besides The heavy guitars. not even that, but whatever.

In the end sure ill give KoRn there first 3 records. Im not a hater. There just a big fuck up. Selling out for fame and shit. Then the coolest member Leaves which is just sad and pathetic. I mean i loved the guy, i dont know why he had to go get hooked on all those drugs and shit and blame it all on the music, that was a fuckin gift to be in that band. Im not trying to judge, its just instead of quiting your fuckin band and leaving them and all the Fans in a bad position, why not quit the HABIT?

[Moz La Punk]

Im not saying that it's a bad idea, maybe Korn should've called it quits after Issues. Sometimes it's a bit embarrasing to see them trying to make up new styles for their records but failing completely and making the same music, just a little bit more gay.

But this topic was meant more or less to show my respect to a band so hated these days. They did good things, end of story.

[lostpilot]

Yeah, they`ve screwed up with the last two albums. They are so.. dead?
I mean Korn tried to invent something new, but they FAILED.. Lets look at 'Take a look in the mirror'. Well, some songs are OK (I guess the only one is Did My Time, just because it was released earlier due to Tomb Raider), but all what`s left is pack of crap.. And lyrics? Sorry, but they suck so much - only because they`re not trying to dig something into lyrics, just writing out some shit like 'OMG I`M SUFFERING PAIN HELP ME'. This is way not cool.
And about 'See you on the other side'.. Well, I must say, I like some songs from it. Some of them are made really great, lyrics fit in (i.e. Tearjerker, Seen It All, Love Song - well this one sometimes seems to suck too). But other songs are SO similar, like made by one format. And what about all those crazy rapped up bagpipes after EACH of songs? This ruins it more.. I`m not talking about lyrics, which are again - only pain and suffering of own Jon.
In conclusion, I hope Korn will wait about 5 more years to burn new cd. Because only bands, who wait so long releases BRAND GOLD albums. Like Deftones. Or they should quit all this.

[dawg]

Korn shows still kick ass
even without brian
cause the shows usual don't change a lot over the years
they always play the classics....some new shit...some covers...always fun

and Korn as a band isn't what they used to be...if you see those 4 dudes in an interview you see that they don't get a long well together anylonger...they are just there...maybe for their thousands of fans...or for the money