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Korn

Started by Moz La Punk, Feb 23, 2006, 12:27 AM

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Moz La Punk

Anyone knowing me here probably know I have a pretty OK taste in music, but I just wanted to talk about this band. I don't know, to spice things up here because I know this is a controversial subject.

I put up the first record today, and I must say I totally forgot how awesome that record was. It blows every other record of them out of the water, with the possible exception of Follow the Leader.

What happened? Is their new work really that bad or have I just not given those records enough time to get into? I realise most people think they suck now and I am one of them, but I have to say listening to the first record after, what, 4 or 5 years, made me realise that they once had an awesome quality. Because s.t. is an awesome record.

Discuss.

Azwethinkweiz

I think people are bashing Korn way more than they deserve. Sure, they're not the greatest band in the world but they're still not bad. I hardly listen to them anymore, but i still enjoy self-titled, life is peachy and follow the leader.

To say "Korn sux" is so old now.

There are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

Moz La Punk

Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

Yeah, that's one thing no one can deny.

MyRibItsBroke

Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AM

To say "Korn sux" is so old now.


but dude. they do. it's inevitable.

fightclubche

Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

falloutboy

Azwethinkweiz

Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 23, 2006, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

falloutboy

Oh look, it's Umphrey McFag.

Moz La Punk

Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 23, 2006, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

falloutboy

Hey, no spamming in my thread you cunt.

fightclubche


fightclubche

Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 23, 2006, 01:03 AM
Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 23, 2006, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

falloutboy

Hey, no spamming in my thread you cunt.

Hey, everyone does it in every other thread, I don't see why it's different here.  UP MY KARMA, ONE UP FOR YOU!  LOLOLOL!!!!!1111

Moz La Punk

I was joking faget. If anyone is the master of offtopic, it's me.

Azwethinkweiz

Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 23, 2006, 01:05 AM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 23, 2006, 01:03 AM
Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 23, 2006, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

falloutboy

Hey, no spamming in my thread you cunt.

Hey, everyone does it in every other thread, I don't see why it's different here.  UP MY KARMA, ONE UP FOR YOU!  LOLOLOL!!!!!1111

nice Bon Jovi av. haha.

fightclubche

Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 23, 2006, 01:06 AM
I was joking faget. If anyone is the master of offtopic, it's me.

ONE UP KARMA FOR YOU!!!

fightclubche

Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 01:08 AM
Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 23, 2006, 01:05 AM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Feb 23, 2006, 01:03 AM
Quote from: fightclubche on Feb 23, 2006, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AMThere are a million fucking bands worse than Korn.

falloutboy

Hey, no spamming in my thread you cunt.

Hey, everyone does it in every other thread, I don't see why it's different here.  UP MY KARMA, ONE UP FOR YOU!  LOLOLOL!!!!!1111

nice Bon Jovi av. haha.

falloutboy

Moz La Punk

And I mean, look at that balding head.


Azwethinkweiz

Moz, sorry for going off-topic, but who is that chick in your av? She's smoking.

Moz La Punk

That's Julia Bond, a fairly new pornstar.

TheProzacFairy

I used to be a huge Korn fan but after Follow The Leader it just went downhill after that..in my opinion. Jon's lyrics are just repetitive and uninteresting...every once in awhile though I do listen to some old school stuff but its just not what it used to be.

Moz La Punk

Just to set the record straight: I cant get into the latest... what, 4 albums. But I am surprised that while listening I really still like the older stuff. Sometimes its so easy to forget.

fireflyry

Self Titled is in my all time top 10 man.

When Adrenaline and Korn's self titled release were out just about everyone I knew was into both bands as both albums not only kicked ass but they were something new, a breath of fresh air if you will, in the stale metal community.They were also the same crew and it was almost impossible to be into the Deftones without being into Korn as everyone knew that these guys were tight friends and at the time the music had a communal spirit to it.

I think three things happened to fuck this up for Korn.

1.They sold WAY more albums than the Deftones and had WAY more initial success.

This put huge pressure on them (which has never really relented) into making more material...quickly....Life is Peachy was written it two weeks.Also there always seems to be an undercurrent of "if it's cool/popular it sucks" cockheads around that love dissing Korn as a result of their success.Like it or not they still sell more albums than a shit load of bands and I think their popularity created a backlash from many.

2.Brian "Head" Welch.

I think a truely talented guitarist it's obvious to everyone who actually was a fan of Korn that he lost the plot on fame, booze and drugs.After the success of "Follow The Leader", their most successful album (yes..they really suck now) it's pretty well known Brian started experimenting with drugs, often.It was never hidden that he was the main song-writing force in Korn and it's pretty obvious that the quality of their material suffered heavily and it is rumoured he wanted out of the band well before Untouchables (their most expensive album and also biggest bomb).His sudden and dramatic departure and convinction to his religious beliefs did'nt help things but  considering his history of substance abuse I'm not surprised.

3.The reverse trend scenario e.g Nu-metal.

It's cool to hate Nu-metal now (if there ever was such a thing).In the mid-ninties it was fine to label a band as such.It was relatively unknown for quite a short period and while it was nobody really minded saying they liked the sound.It was new, fresh and completely different from most of the metal releases at the time but it also was'nt long before the nu-metal label and bands involved became popular hence the old addage of "if it's trendy it sucks".I honestly think it's the path of least resistance to hate Korn now, although their past few releases have not helped.They were, at the time, pioneers and the fore-runners of the nu-metal sound and were as well respected as the Deftones and while that was fine in the ninties now it's mearly an excuse to hate them.

I'm not a big fan anymore but the first three albums will always be classics in my opinion.

:)



 
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tarkil

Life Is Peachy is great too... Much better than Follow The Leader IMO...



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