*I searched for this really quick but didn't come up with anything so I apologize if there's another thread about this show.
Anyway, I'm addicted to this show (haha addicted get it?) no really I am though. I think it's one of the most interesting shows on TV whether you know someone with an serious addiction or not.
this is the most depressing show on the face of the earth
Quote from: goldpony on Dec 21, 2007, 07:05 PM
this is the most depressing show on the face of the earth
Depressing, yeah that's true. But interesting as well.
i'v neva seen it
lucky me ;D
I like this show alot. Some of the people are really fucked in the head...
as sad as the show is, it caught my attention. addiction is crazy! i feel sorry for those people. luckily, some actually make it out okay.
It's not reality TV, it's real TV. Real life shit... Sad yes, but as said, always great to see when people work towards doing what's best...
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 17, 2008, 07:03 PM
It's not reality TV, it's real TV. Real life shit... Sad yes, but as said, always great to see when people work towards doing what's best...
True. True.
I think that's why I like this show and even "reality" TV in general (even though most if it is fake) - I just like observing people and learning about the human condition. I probably should have been a psychologist or a philosopher.
or a detective
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Quote from: Shaye on Jan 17, 2008, 07:52 PM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 17, 2008, 07:03 PM
It's not reality TV, it's real TV. Real life shit... Sad yes, but as said, always great to see when people work towards doing what's best...
I probably should have been a psychologist or a philosopher.
I wouldn't be able to work with people like that. I can handle when people come to me having a heart attack or bleeding out their ass, because yeah, thats legit. But some weakling crying because of a mess they got into all on their own, but are too weak to get out of. No, I would slap some people.
Until you see first hand people like on the show you can't relate... I would agree, not knowning what it's like I would slap them too...
I have seen plenty of addicts. Probably more than there are episodes of "intervention" Problem is that people want to hug them and tell them its not their fault. When it is, and they need to be strong and fix the mess they got into all on their own. A strange society we live in, strength and accountability for actions are less admirable than weakness and passing the buck.
Quote from: Variable on Jan 19, 2008, 06:16 AMA strange society we live in, strength and accountability for actions are less admirable than weakness and passing the buck.
QFT.
Sadly, it seems to be human nature to find an excuse or justification to negative actions, sort of a defense mechanism if you will. People's stories always seem to change with the situation. If someone works hard to overcome obstacles within their life and succeeds they are rewarded with beliefs like "you can do anything if you put your mind to it". As soon as someone's actions result in a negative outcome it's, "I couldn't do something or had to do something because a certain person or institution left me no choice".
This is slightly off topic from drug addiction but...
Perfect example is the Columbine shooting. My take on it is that the two kids were twisted and had no conscience. But the kids themselves blamed it on bullying and the media took it even further by slanting the story to fit their agenda against so called violent video games and music.
Chris rock said it best "What ever happened to 'Crazy' "?: (Skip to about 1 minute, 10 seconds in)
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yeah. Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny. However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point.
I just hate when people say that forms of addiciton are diseases, because they are not. Fucking HIV is a disease, I can look at it under a fucking microscope. Show me the gambling bug, and tell me why hand washing didnt help me from contracting it.
Or
Tell someone they are fucking weak and they should probably go slap their parents for not slapping them more as kids. Either way, we are all accountable for our actions. Next people will try to spinn of Rape as a disease. "god it wasn't my fault. I must have caught the rape bug off the toilet seat at subway!"
Fucking losers.
Quote from: Variable on Jan 20, 2008, 06:32 PM
yeah. Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny. However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point.
I wasn't sure if you were saying that I missed the point, but if so I didn't. I just wanted to elaborate more because my thoughts tend to wander from one thing to another. Maybe I should stop drinking coffee... :D
If that's not what you meant, then forget I said anything. :-X
Quote from: Shaye on Jan 21, 2008, 10:03 PM
Quote from: Variable on Jan 20, 2008, 06:32 PM
yeah. Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny. However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point.
I wasn't sure if you were saying that I missed the point, but if so I didn't. I just wanted to elaborate more because my thoughts tend to wander from one thing to another. Maybe I should stop drinking coffee... :D
If that's not what you meant, then forget I said anything. :-X
no its not what I meant. You seem like a smart girl. I just think most americans hear the message, then laugh off the guilt and dont give it a second thought.
and dear, you should never, ever stop drinking coffee.
Fuck coffee, smoke crack.
i fucked coffee, the burns still havnt healed :(
Quote from: Atomic on Jan 24, 2008, 07:22 AM
i fucked coffee, the burns still havnt healed :(
;D
Quote from: Variable on Jan 20, 2008, 06:32 PM
yeah. Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny. However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point.
I just hate when people say that forms of addiciton are diseases, because they are not. Fucking HIV is a disease, I can look at it under a fucking microscope. Show me the gambling bug, and tell me why hand washing didnt help me from contracting it.
Or
Tell someone they are fucking weak and they should probably go slap their parents for not slapping them more as kids. Either way, we are all accountable for our actions. Next people will try to spinn of Rape as a disease. "god it wasn't my fault. I must have caught the rape bug off the toilet seat at subway!"
Fucking losers.
Disease can be a term to describe more than one thing Trey. to me,if something is controlling your body,life,makes you sick when and when not sued,its a disease. I get what you're saying,but I think alcoholism and drug addiction is a disease.
"A disease is an abnormal condition of an organism that impairs bodily functions all over.[citation needed] In human beings, "disease" is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes discomfort, dysfunction, distress, social problems, and/or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person. In this broader sense, it sometimes includes injuries, disabilities, disorders, syndromes, infections, isolated symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts and for other purposes these may be considered distinguishable categories.[citation needed]
While many diseases are biological processes with observable alterations of organ function or structure, others primarily involve alterations of behavior.
Classifying a condition as a disease is a social act of valuation, and may change the social status of the person with the condition (the patient). Some conditions (known as culture-bound syndromes) are only recognized as diseases within a particular culture. Sometimes the categorization of a condition as a disease is controversial within the culture."
yeah its called americans are weak. So instead of blaming ourselves for being weak idiots we blame it on a "disease." that way its not our fault and we can still think we are better than the niggers in africa with aids.
Are there any countries out there today that are not full of pussies?
Wow Trey...harsh words there.
That how I honestly feel. America is full of a bunch of fuching cry babies. We have it better than anyone else in the world and all we fucking do is dope ourselves up because we cant handle how hard life is. What ever happened to suck it the fuck up? There are people out there with real problems (hints the africa comment) real diseases. And what do we cry about? "wah wah wah I have all this money that I keep giving away to casinos for entertainment, wah wah wah" "wah wah wah, I wasted HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS on alcohol because im a weak pussy and no one is society will slap my ass back on the straight and narrow, instead they hug me and tell me its not my fault , so I will waste more THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS on my addiction until it kills me, thanks!" Seriously, people need to learn to be tough again. And get a little fucking pride while they are at it.
Ever seen the southpark episode on AA? Its great, I would watch it if you have not.
I don't know, let me say something - As a clean and recovering addict of opiates, when it comes to the "disease theory" I see two sides of the coin - One of it is a mental illness or defect that may have been implemented in the person's brain before they were even born (addictive personality, alcholism - genetic inheritence, etc.) Another is what Variable is talking about - weak minded people giving into potentially dangerous and addictive behavior; changing their brain chemistry when they knew from the get-go that that they were playing with fire, then when the shit hits the fan they try to convince themselves and others that it's not really "their" fault. I've seen it first hand in rehab, addicts in there and people I've known where I live. I however had recognized my problem, blamed nobody at all but myself, stepped up to the plate and endured and dealt with what I had to do to avoid slipping further into another waste of life, a "weak minded pussy" as Variable puts it. For some people though, it's not that easy. There are many types of "addictions" out there - "gambling addiction" - "addiction to sex" - these may be problems of the mind but they are not true chemical and physiological changes that chemical substance dependences cause. But alas, this is a story that is far too long to talk about and everyone will always have their own opinions, so I guess I'll quit while I'm ahead.
Anyway, as for the show "Intervention", I actually do enjoy catching it from time to time. Alot of the 'normies' out there (people who don't do drugs or live destructive lifestyles) can be pretty freaked out by the things on it, I would imagine. I've seen just about every drug there is and all the different methods of ingesting them. Needles don't scare me. However, there was one episode where there was this young woman was addicted to cutting herself - bad - long, deep cuts - And there was one part where she pulled her pants and panties down a little bit and she began cutting herself deeply around her genitals (her private parts were censored) - That sent chills down my spine... and remember, this is coming from a guy who's shot up H a few times in his life (not bragging, just stating personal facts).
Inheriting addictions (alcoholism for example) is widley accepted a being something that actually happens. I however just dont buy it. I truly dont believe that people are born with something wrong in their head that makes them prone to be addicted to alcohol. I am not saying that it is not possible. Just at this point in my life, I have not seen anything to make me believe it. There a plenty of doctors and scientist out there who had shit bag parents who were addicted to alcohol or sex or whatever, and so they had a pet theory that they "proved" in order to prove to themselves that their parents were not truly shit bags. Like I said, not saying my mind could not be changed. I just have not seen it yet.
oh and props to you if you really did kick your habit. I dont think people are weak for trying, even if that trial is for a long time. I just lose respet when it starts to control you and you dont do anything about it.
Quote from: Variable on Jan 27, 2008, 05:28 PM
Inheriting addictions (alcoholism for example) is widley accepted a being something that actually happens. I however just dont buy it. I truly dont believe that people are born with something wrong in their head that makes them prone to be addicted to alcohol. I am not saying that it is not possible. Just at this point in my life, I have not seen anything to make me believe it. There a plenty of doctors and scientist out there who had shit bag parents who were addicted to alcohol or sex or whatever, and so they had a pet theory that they "proved" in order to prove to themselves that their parents were not truly shit bags. Like I said, not saying my mind could not be changed. I just have not seen it yet.
oh and props to you if you really did kick your habit. I dont think people are weak for trying, even if that trial is for a long time. I just lose respet when it starts to control you and you dont do anything about it.
Well X (I hope you don't mind if you call that, as 'x' represents 'any Variable'..), I'm not exactly going to argue with your beliefs as I think this will both get us nowhere, but I would like to share some information I have read and known about for sometime. Personally I do believe that the alcholic gene does exist within a certain group of people, but I also think that it doesn't necessarily mean that those with the gene will become alcoholics.
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Researchers at Washington University and 5 other centers have combined forces to identify a gene that is associated with alcoholism in some families. The scientists focused on a region of chromosome 15 that contains several genes involved in the movement of a brain chemical called GABA between neurons. One version of the gene, GABRG3, was found statistically linked (associated) with alcoholism in the affected families.
Source (http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=26119)
However, on that source link, there is an additional scientific 'Comments' section that says:
There is a difference between identifying an attitude that runs in a family and discovering a gene that contributes to alcoholism. ... There is no evidence whatsoever that attitudes toward drinking are hereditary. (Which I can tell you believe in and I would also have to agree) There are familial, societal, and cultural attitudes toward alcohol consumption but this does not mean that they have a genetic basis. (Which you did state earlier) Genes clearly do contribute to alcoholism. However, even when a gene like GABRG3 is found, that does not mean we understand the genetic basis of alcoholism. The researchers do not yet know how changes in the GABA gene increase a person's risk of alcoholism.
So, like I said before, I personally
do believe that there is a proness to becoming alcoholic if the gene for alcoholism runs within the family gene line. But, as the article also said, (and something that can be quite obvious to any body with common logic) many factors
do play a signifcant part if a person (with or without the gene) is exposed to environment(s) where alcoholism is tolerated and/or accepted. The point of my rambling?... Well, I'm not really sure if there is one since I am not an alcoholic nor have I ever been, I do not believe I possess the alcoholic gene. I guess what I'm trying to do is
not change your opinions/beliefs, but maybe share some information that I think is potentially true. I'm not sure if there's any more cause for debate, I simply wanted to give you another view on why some people might be the way they are through scientific research [As in if you do not know that they have a predisposition to a serious problem, they can unknowingly cause it become a serious problem].
see now thats good shit. Because it opens the door for soooo much else.
I am a firm believer that you can't have a ying without a yang. If we can sit here and say that behavior such as alcoholism is genetic. Then we have to say that all behavior is genetic. After all why should just alcoholism be genetic and not....hard work? Intelligence, a drive to succeed, lazyness, stupidity, crazy, any traits at all. Why cant we say that they are all genetic? Because then we would have to take a hard look at ourselves, our families, our races and say that certain bad traits are genetic towards certain groups of people. Pre destoned to thrive, or be the lower class. Sure no one has a problem saying that Asians are good at math, Indians are natural healers, and Africans are naturally athletic. But what happens if we start to say that certain races have inherant bad genetic traits? Even a list of good and bad traits that would say that certain races are better than the other? Hmmmm, sounds dangerous. Good luck with all that ground breaking research that will allow people to believe their own actions are not their fault. It might lead to more than those "scientist" bargained for.
I dont think alcoholism is genetic. My father is an alcoholic (somewhat recovering) and I nor my brother are alcoholics.
I do think people in general are weak as far as drugs and alcohol go,NOT just Americans.
its nature and nuture. its true that children of alcoholics dont always become alcoholics (or whatever addiction), BUT SEEING IT IN THEIR ENVIROMENT AND bEING EXPOSED TO IT (sory bout caplock there) makes them more prone to those behaviors than children whose parents had no addictions. it makes sense if you think about it. lil johnny sees dad get blotto everynight, lil johnny tries dads alcohol, lil johnny ends up like dad. is it always the case, no. but growing up with it probably made the decision easier.
Quote from: devilinside on Jan 28, 2008, 11:57 PM
I do think people in general are weak as far as drugs and alcohol go,NOT just Americans.
Right, that is true. It is not just americans. But that is where american culture is headed. We are turning into very lazy and very weak minded people. Other countries are too, but I would venture to say that american culture is pretty influential in the world right now.
Quote from: goldpony on Jan 29, 2008, 12:21 AM
its nature and nuture. its true that children of alcoholics dont always become alcoholics (or whatever addiction), BUT SEEING IT IN THEIR ENVIROMENT AND bEING EXPOSED TO IT (sory bout caplock there) makes them more prone to those behaviors than children whose parents had no addictions. it makes sense if you think about it. lil johnny sees dad get blotto everynight, lil johnny tries dads alcohol, lil johnny ends up like dad. is it always the case, no. but growing up with it probably made the decision easier.
I also agree with this. Bad parents fucking up their kids. It happens. Now eventually the kid has to grow up and shake that. But it is also the parents fault. But no partent likes to admit they are a bad parent. Thats why we have a ridiculous % of kids of behavior drugs. Because parents want to believe that its not their fault their kid is out of control, its a disease. See a trend here?
Quote from: Variable on Jan 28, 2008, 07:17 AM
But what happens if we start to say that certain races have inherant bad genetic traits? Even a list of good and bad traits that would say that certain races are better than the other? Hmmmm, sounds dangerous.
I just want to quote you on that, as I find funny that you're the one saying that... Even though I know that you're usually joking...
you are just scarred that it would be discovered that French people have a genetic trait that makes them more prone to wanting to suck my cock. Its ok, ill still respect you in the morning.
ha ha.... That's a good one...
I notice that you still talk about sucking cock though...
it's all he thinks about, he's such a slut
Quote from: tarkil on Jan 29, 2008, 11:23 AM
ha ha.... That's a good one...
I notice that you still talk about sucking cock though...
is there really anything better to talk about?
I wouldn't go so far as to always blame the parents. Ive known kids that had super straight edge parents,father an accountant and mom a stay at home "mrs.cleaver" type. And he turned into the biggest junkie I know. I think you can blame things more on friends than you can parents. Friends are more of an influence on kids in some families than parents are.
only if they are shitty parents. You can put a ruse all you want as to how good of a mom and dad you are. But your kids behavior tells all. Plus if you are a good parent you will be able to control ( I understand to a point) who your kids spend their time with. Plus, a good parent knows that there is such thing as being too strict.
Dr.Trey...you should get your own show. You'd totally knock Dr Phill of his spot.
Quote from: devilinside on Jan 30, 2008, 05:26 PM
Dr.Trey...you should get your own show. You'd totally knock Dr Phill of his spot.
but the question is, would he suck oprahs dick?
oooh...haha grody!!
Quote from: devilinside on Jan 30, 2008, 05:26 PM
Dr.Trey...you should get your own show. You'd totally knock Dr Phill of his spot.
this is true. Not only because im not fat like Dr. Phill. But because Dr. Trey sounds a lot like Dr. Dre so I could get the african american community behind me too.
Quote from: goldpony on Jan 30, 2008, 06:39 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Jan 30, 2008, 05:26 PM
Dr.Trey...you should get your own show. You'd totally knock Dr Phill of his spot.
but the question is, would he suck oprahs dick?
are we talking pre or post diets?
Quote from: Variable on Jan 31, 2008, 01:19 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Jan 30, 2008, 05:26 PM
Dr.Trey...you should get your own show. You'd totally knock Dr Phill of his spot.
this is true. Not only because im not fat like Dr. Phill. But because Dr. Trey sounds a lot like Dr. Dre so I could get the african american community behind me too
LMAO!
;)
I'm an addict yet I'm sober...
I have to agree with Varible, the blame game of a diease is lame. My mom has Lupus and MS, she is the strongest women I've ever met. I love that Italian lady. Those are dieseases, not someone like myself who enjoys altering a state of mind...
Quote from: Variable on Jan 31, 2008, 01:19 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Jan 30, 2008, 05:26 PM
Dr.Trey...you should get your own show. You'd totally knock Dr Phill of his spot.
this is true. Not only because im not fat like Dr. Phill. But because Dr. Trey sounds a lot like Dr. Dre so I could get the african american community behind me too.Quote from: goldpony on Jan 30, 2008, 06:39 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Jan 30, 2008, 05:26 PM
Dr.Trey...you should get your own show. You'd totally knock Dr Phill of his spot.
but the question is, would he suck oprahs dick?
are we talking pre or post diets?
when the lady is handing out the cash, do you really care if shes fat or not? you could always wear a paper bag if its that bad :D
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 31, 2008, 07:20 PM
I'm an addict yet I'm sober...
I have to agree with Varible, the blame game of a diease is lame. My mom has Lupus and MS, she is the strongest women I've ever met. I love that Italian lady. Those are dieseases, not someone like myself who enjoys altering a state of mind...
exactly. If you say someone who lost their house because of a few thrills in vegas has a disease you might as well just piss all over someone with Lou Gehrig's disease. If you just like to relieve stress by getting high or throwing some dice, its a lot more respectable to just admit it.
Quote from: Variable
exactly. If you say someone who lost their house because of a few thrills in vegas has a disease you might as well just piss all over someone with Lou Gehrig's disease. If you just like to relieve stress by getting high or throwing some dice, its a lot more respectable to just admit it.
I do agree with this. And like others have said, as a child I was not exposed to much more than rare occasions of my mother consuming alcohol or both my parents smoking cigarettes when I was very young after my stepdad's mother died of breast cancer. I don't know what it was about me but I just had a weird yet natural feeling of curiosity about altering my state of consciousness. I got stoned (weed) way before I ever got buzzed off a few beers or what have you. And I also screwed around with some other dangerous shit, got stupid, stayed stupid for a little while then realized myself that I had a problem. No one in my family even knew anything was wrong when I willingly checked myself into rehab. I know I have an addictive personality. Never had problems with alcohol actually, and I don't gamble. But every once in a while I have to remind myself to resist the temptation's of fucking myself up again. And no, I didn't go Born Again to do it either. As for the mental disease involving addiction, well, everyone has their own opinion and I think I'll just say maybe we do have it, maybe we don't. Too soon to tell I think. The human mind only uses what, 10% of it's capacity? Read some Timothy Leary and Terrence McKenna and then try to tell me that they were "just getting fucked up"... I honestly believe there's doors and realms within our minds that are unopened but can be opened... such as the concept of "the Third Eye"... anyway I don't know where I'm going with this, I guess I'll just conclude that I agree with Mr. X that if you have a problem and know it, grow some balls and some brains and admit it, and do something about it. And if you don't care about your problems, then you obviously have no self-respect... And no self-respect means no respect from anyone else.
Edit: I don't know what happened but somehow a double-post was made... Anyway...
werd
Quote from: Variable on Feb 01, 2008, 01:01 PM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 31, 2008, 07:20 PM
I'm an addict yet I'm sober...
I have to agree with Varible, the blame game of a diease is lame. My mom has Lupus and MS, she is the strongest women I've ever met. I love that Italian lady. Those are dieseases, not someone like myself who enjoys altering a state of mind...
exactly. If you say someone who lost their house because of a few thrills in vegas has a disease you might as well just piss all over someone with Lou Gehrig's disease. If you just like to relieve stress by getting high or throwing some dice, its a lot more respectable to just admit it.
Thumb up!
st3v3n_g - sorry to hear about your loss. On the other hand, glad to hear you're sober.
I have a gripe with people like Tom Cruise, "Ritalin is a gateway drug". Blah, people are pre-disposed to habitual tendcies... Fact, one who wishes to try smoking weed already has the desire to expand beyound a normal state of mind... I hope you all agree.
(Fuck my spelling and grammer, I wish this froum had a spell check.)
I can't disclose my previous addictions, but, I over came them on my own.
you could type all your post on a word processor that has spell check then cut and paste.
I think it is in ALL humans nautre to want to alter their state of mind. This is why kids spin in circles till they turn dizzy and laugh about it. But I dont know. There is just something I dont agree about with what you just said. I cant put my finger on it right now though. Maybe its because you used the word expand. I am not so sure that drugs are a way of mind expansion so much as just a way to alter your state of mind. Does that make sense?
Let's see, expand, ummm. "Alter", that might've been a better choice in words.
I just think expand sounds like you are bettering yourself. I am just not so sure that is true.
Ummm, I see what you mean... I like to escape, that's better....
I can agree with that.
.........so did Trey win the argument or what
as usual
There was an argument? I must've missed it.
i wasnt paying attention to it but i'm glad it ended, it was a lame argument
and it didnt look like anyone won it actually, just like that thread "ok, let's be serious for a minute" or woteva its called
no no, that thread was waaaaaayyyy more lame.
and the "argument" was not so much with you 13. More of a discussion on wether or not addicts are losers or not.
Word.
I liket he episode of Intervention with the girl who was addicted to meth. She threw cup noodles at her sister while she was naked. That was comedy.
yea, then she feels sorry and they both get naked and eat the noodles off of each other, weve all seen that episode of intercourse
Noodles, Naked, Meth? Can't go wrong with that combo.
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Mar 13, 2008, 12:25 AM
I liket he episode of Intervention with the girl who was addicted to meth. She threw cup noodles at her sister while she was naked. That was comedy.
Wahaha. That's one of my favorite episodes because it's just insane. I only saw it once and I've been hoping for a repeat because my jaw was on the floor for the entire thing, but every time a repeat is on..it's not that one. Do you remember the place she lived in? It was just a busted mess of a place....but yes, that was very entertaining.
hmmmm. A show that exploits scum for entertainment. I need to get rich of some ridiculous idea like that. Maybe I should watch.
Exploit 911, everyone's doing it!
yeah no shit
what about the belemic girl who chews her food up and then spits it out in a cup when she's hungry....for the love of christ
I actually have a bit of empathy for people like that.
yea..i guess instead of spitting their food out they could be doing worse things like smoking meth
but why is always about substance abuse..what about chonic depression or something else?..i mean..people with depression cannot help it beyond therapy or drug classes..it aint no addiction
probably because most cases of depression are total BS. They are real chemical imbalances that people have. But these days people are so fucking delicate that if someone looks at them wrong they start to cry and instead of admitting that they are weak and need to DBAP they just blame it on depression.
Plus it would be kind of hard to have an intervention about something you literally cant control.
yea...that is true..but at the same time sad..just because we cant physically "see" the casue or triggers of the illness we are lead to believe that its not actually recognizable
being bi polar is recognizable, its just really hard to diagnose
Quote from: i kill for fun on Apr 26, 2008, 04:32 AM
but why is always about substance abuse..what about chonic depression or something else?..i mean..people with depression cannot help it beyond therapy or drug classes..it aint no addiction
It's not always about substance abuse. I saw an episode once about a woman who had an addiction to shopping.
I mean someone who has depression, or any other naturally occurring mental illness, doesn't really need an intervention. They need some therapy and possibly some medication. It's not the same as people who go out and get themselves addicted to drugs and then lose control of their life. Those people need and "intervention". Most people who are depressed, seek help on their own if they can. They need a group of family and friends to get together and say "we've personally diagnosed you with depression, and we would love for you to see a psychiatrist and take some zoloft".
yeah way to say what I already did shaye ;)
I wana be on this show and get an intervention for using steroids. then when I get the intervention go all fucking crazy and murder everyone by ripping one guys head off and beating everyone else to death with his skull. That would be some good TV.
Quote from: Variable on May 01, 2008, 12:11 PM
yeah way to say what I already did shaye ;)
Quick Trey! I need an intervention for my addiction to repetition and over-explaining...
Well I would slap you if I could.....But I cant. So consider yourself e-slapped. And dont ever do it again, or else I will start e-breaking fingers.
Quote from: Variable on May 07, 2008, 10:40 AM
Well I would slap you if I could.....But I cant. So consider yourself e-slapped. And dont ever do it again, or else I will start e-breaking fingers.
Oooh sounds kinky. I think I just got turned on...
Haha I love this thread. Variable, you are a man of utter wisdom. I wish I knew you personally b/c a lot of what you say is something that I would say. Some people that live over here (yeahh L.A., worst fucking place on Earth) are exactly how you described them. Weak little pussies or fake ass clones that do whatever to fit in and they are raised to believe "its not their fault. Totally agree about your arguments about addiction. As soon as I get a lot of money I am moving from this fucking place.
"Learn to swim.."
Oh, yeah and as for the topic. I have seen this show a couple times. I think the other day I was watching this episode and it was about this lesbian meth addict and how she fucked up her life b/c she used to be a superstar athlete and betrayed her father. Honestly, she didn't look like a bad meth addict from what I have seen. Her teeth were getting yellow but I think she had it in her to kick the habit herself. Just my opinion.
Quote from: mr.sinester on May 09, 2008, 06:31 AM
Variable, you are a man of utter wisdom.
;)
Quote from: Shaye on May 09, 2008, 03:56 AM
Quote from: Variable on May 07, 2008, 10:40 AM
Well I would slap you if I could.....But I cant. So consider yourself e-slapped. And dont ever do it again, or else I will start e-breaking fingers.
Oooh sounds kinky. I think I just got turned on...
grrrr baby. Good thing I didnt threaten you with the e-cock slap or else you might have had a circuit over load