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Title: I just need some help
Post by: Frankz0r on Feb 20, 2008, 11:22 PM
Ok here I go,  stupid post:

I'm thinking about learning a new language for me, should I pick French or should I pick German?

I'd like to learn french but I know it's kinda hard and complicated... Besides, I don't know shit about french. The other option is German, I guess it's easier and in some way it can be similar to english.

So guys, what can you say?  :) oh I'm a native spanish speaker.

muah  :-*
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: blondie on Feb 20, 2008, 11:30 PM
french will be easier since it's similar to spanish more than german is with english.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: whodunit? on Feb 20, 2008, 11:40 PM
I study languages so I can tell ya.

For English speaking people German is much more easier than French. they', English and German, are from the same "family" of languages. they have similar structures. however, English language has lot of French vocabulary, but when it comes to grammar, which is crucial when studying the second (or third) language, German will be easier for you.

personally, if I had to choose, I'd pick German. I hate this language but it's much easier to learn.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 21, 2008, 02:09 AM
I say French, much more relation to Italian and Spanish... It teachs you femmine and male phrases, whereas German is difficult as fuck to prononce from an English background... IMHO
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: devilinside on Feb 21, 2008, 02:22 AM
I took 2 years of German in school,and it is NOT easy. It's not a very pretty language either. French...meh... You should do Japanese! haha  But seriously,Ich sage Deutsch.



:)
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Fireal1222 on Feb 21, 2008, 02:33 AM
i took french and i personally didn't think it was that hard


i can only tell you my name and order steak fries after 2 years of french


but it was still easy
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: devilinside on Feb 21, 2008, 02:40 AM
HAH! I'm the same way,I can conjugate nouns,say the alphabet and numbers,and tell you Ich bin auslander und sprechen nicht gut Deutsch.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 21, 2008, 02:46 AM
Je parle francias un peu...

After four years I can't remember shit... I never paid attention in school but got something out of it.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: tarkil on Feb 21, 2008, 04:36 AM
I think french wil be easier if you're spanish...
At least, me learning spanish was very easy because I know french... Both languages are really similar, so I think it's the safest option...

And sorry to say that, but german sucks ass : it's one of the ugliest language to hear....
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 21, 2008, 05:01 AM
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 21, 2008, 04:36 AM
And sorry to say that, but german sucks ass : it's one of the ugliest language to hear....

Yeah, Russian too... Wait, no, southern american is the WORST!!! I can't stand it, sometimes it's sexy for a woman... Sorry, I hope not to offend, just my too sense.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: snw777 on Feb 21, 2008, 05:10 AM
"southern american"

do you mean portuguese?
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Shaye on Feb 21, 2008, 05:21 AM
Quote from: snw777 on Feb 21, 2008, 05:10 AM
"southern american"

do you mean portuguese?

I think he meant the Southern accent of the US, but I could be wrong.

Definitely go with French. If you already speak Spanish french will be fairly easy since their both based from Latin. Plus, (and I could be wrong) but I would assume French is more widely spoken than German.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: devilinside on Feb 21, 2008, 06:01 AM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 21, 2008, 05:01 AM
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 21, 2008, 04:36 AM
And sorry to say that, but german sucks ass : it's one of the ugliest language to hear....

Yeah, Russian too... Wait, no, southern american is the WORST!!! I can't stand it, sometimes it's sexy for a woman... Sorry, I hope not to offend, just my too sense.

Dude...I have a southern accent,and it's FABULOUS! A few here can tell you. But I take no offense...and I think you mean the "redneck" language is ugly...kinda like the "gangsta" language is ugly.  ;D
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Nailec on Feb 21, 2008, 12:45 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages


i would suggest to learn latin or ancient greek which will help you to improve you common knowledge and to understand a lot of scientific words and so on
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: shine down unshy on Feb 21, 2008, 01:55 PM
Learn french so you can mack on tha ladiessss.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: devilinside on Feb 21, 2008, 06:16 PM
spanish>french


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay sexier
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 21, 2008, 06:59 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Feb 21, 2008, 06:01 AM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 21, 2008, 05:01 AM
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 21, 2008, 04:36 AM
And sorry to say that, but german sucks ass : it's one of the ugliest language to hear....

Yeah, Russian too... Wait, no, southern american is the WORST!!! I can't stand it, sometimes it's sexy for a woman... Sorry, I hope not to offend, just my too sense.

Dude...I have a southern accent,and it's FABULOUS! A few here can tell you. But I take no offense...and I think you mean the "redneck" language is ugly...kinda like the "gangsta" language is ugly.  ;D

Yes, that is what I meant, the redneck language... That's what I was looking for last night, but couldn't think of the term...

My dad has a straight up English accent, and he moved to the states when he was 19. Still thick as fuck. Since I was raised listening to him I actually have a slight English accent as well... People always ask where I'm from, it's odd... And my grandma, she speaks Italian all the time - I have no clue what the fuck she is talking about...
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: theshadeisatool on Feb 21, 2008, 07:58 PM
Deutsch mein Kind, Deutsch!

German is easy-ish for a while and then you have to learn the different cases (Nominativ, Dativ, Akkusativ, etc.) and there's rigid sentence order that you've got to stick to make sense.

With regards to what Whodunit? said, I found German grammar really difficult to grasp personally. But your right about there being some similarties.

I have to say that ultimately there are more words from Latin-languages used in English nowadays, so German can be quite difficult as opposed to French or Spanish.

Eg. English: Education, French: Éducation, German: Bildung, Spanish: Educación

German definitely is fun though. Ja. French is more flowing and nice-sounding. Depends on what you're looking for.

Espanol es más fácil y creo que es un idioma excelente. Pero no hablo bien.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Frankz0r on Feb 21, 2008, 11:48 PM
Quote from: theshadeisatool on Feb 21, 2008, 07:58 PM
Espanol es más fácil y creo que es un idioma excelente. Pero no hablo bien.

Español es el idioma más difícil de aprender, incluso más que el japonés o mandarín. <- Spanish is the hardest language to learn. We as native spanish speakers even don't know how to speak in a correct way and even how to write (it's pretty difficult for some people)... I know it happens with every language but believe me it's a pain in the ass with spanish.

And thanks for the suggestions, I really like how french sounds but it would be nice to learn german. I think I'll go for french, struggling I'll learn something, I hope so.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: tarkil on Feb 22, 2008, 05:21 AM
Quote from: Frankz0r on Feb 21, 2008, 11:48 PM
Español es el idioma más difícil de aprender, incluso más que el japonés o mandarín.

No way... Spanish is way easier than mandarin...
Japanese is pretty easy, but spanish is really an esay language to learn... fro sure
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: weakcure on Feb 22, 2008, 06:00 AM
French; I regret not taking it. :(

But I still like Latin... fuck the haters!
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 22, 2008, 06:36 PM
Pig latin? Why the fuck are you learning a dead language... Well, it might be good to know in the after life...
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Frankz0r on Feb 22, 2008, 10:58 PM
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 22, 2008, 05:21 AM
Quote from: Frankz0r on Feb 21, 2008, 11:48 PM
Español es el idioma más difícil de aprender, incluso más que el japonés o mandarín.

No way... Spanish is way easier than mandarin...
Japanese is pretty easy, but spanish is really an esay language to learn... fro sure

Well, at least that's what I've heard. But if you say so!. By the way, are you still living in Hong Kong? How's it goin'?
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Feb 23, 2008, 01:29 AM
Yeah, Spanish and Japanese are easy as hell to learn.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: emotivelotion on Feb 23, 2008, 02:17 AM
English's easier than español, it's funny when people say things that must be different, like that guy said in between "masculin" and "femenine" terms, wich is a feature on français lawl, but it is harder than español, español only has 5 vowels and they sound the same way no matter the consonants around, the little time i studied français i remember they were like 17,  maybe im wrong but as far this native guy who was teaching us, french and spanish were in the top 5 of the most difficult languages, and its a matter of culture, while europeans learn  more languages since early ages then as teenagers they speak an average of 4 languages :(, some people say after the 3rd one everything is a child's play.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: tarkil on Feb 23, 2008, 06:30 AM
Quote from: Frankz0r on Feb 22, 2008, 10:58 PM
Well, at least that's what I've heard. But if you say so!. By the way, are you still living in Hong Kong? How's it goin'?

Yup, I'm still living there, and it's still awesome... :)

Quote from: emotivelotion on Feb 23, 2008, 02:17 AM
English's easier than español, it's funny when people say things that must be different, like that guy said in between "masculin" and "femenine" terms, wich is a feature on français lawl, but it is harder than español, español only has 5 vowels and they sound the same way no matter the consonants around, the little time i studied français i remember they were like 17,  maybe im wrong but as far this native guy who was teaching us, french and spanish were in the top 5 of the most difficult languages, and its a matter of culture, while europeans learn  more languages since early ages then as teenagers they speak an average of 4 languages :(, some people say after the 3rd one everything is a child's play.

Yup, there are indeed lots of different "vowel sounds" in french... I never tried to count them though, but I guess it would be around 10-15 yeah.

And for real, Spanish is a pretty easy language to learn... French is hard though... I guess it's even one of the hardest to speak really correctly because it's so full of grammar exceptions and shit... French people speaking real correct french is really rare, so you can guess how hard it is... :)
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 24, 2008, 05:16 PM
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Feb 23, 2008, 01:29 AM
Yeah, Spanish and Japanese are easy as hell to learn.

Huh?

Sarcasism I assume...
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: NiChe on Feb 24, 2008, 05:31 PM
I studied french for 9 years and i still can't speak it
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 24, 2008, 05:34 PM
Quote from: NiChe on Feb 24, 2008, 05:31 PM
I studied french for 9 years and i still can't speak it

Yeah, you need to use it daily or you lose it, yeah?

BTW, thank you so much for the Fruity Loops bro!

I have a demo track on my myspace page - much more to come. Thanks again!!!!
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: tarkil on Feb 25, 2008, 07:28 AM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 24, 2008, 05:16 PM
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Feb 23, 2008, 01:29 AM
Yeah, Spanish and Japanese are easy as hell to learn.

Huh?

Sarcasism I assume...

Nah it's true...
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Variable on Feb 25, 2008, 08:14 AM
spanish is ridiculously easy.  I have been learning dari for the past few months, also very easy.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 25, 2008, 10:11 AM
I've been learning Canadian eh. Tough language to speak it you don't want to get your teeth knocked out... Kidding, kidding.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Variable on Feb 25, 2008, 10:28 AM
lol, you're so not kidding
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Shaye on Feb 25, 2008, 03:31 PM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 24, 2008, 05:16 PM
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Feb 23, 2008, 01:29 AM
Yeah, Spanish and Japanese are easy as hell to learn.

Huh?

Sarcasism I assume...


Tee hee...sarcasism.

No one's mispellings are as good as yours. Seriously, I'm using that from now on.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Variable on Feb 25, 2008, 08:57 PM
thats like something snoop dog would say

sarcasism for shizzle
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Shaye on Feb 25, 2008, 09:33 PM
Quote from: Variable on Feb 25, 2008, 08:57 PM
thats like something snoop dog would say

sarcasism for shizzle

It reminds me of a stupid joke someone told me a few years ago (which I of course think is hilarious because I love lame jokes).


Here goes:

Why does Snoop Dogg always carry an umbrella?














Fo' Drizzle.













EL-OH-EL     :D
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Variable on Feb 25, 2008, 09:57 PM
..................
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Shaye on Feb 25, 2008, 10:00 PM
Yeah yeah yeah...go ahead and play it off like you're not going to tell that one to everyone you know.
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: snw777 on Feb 25, 2008, 10:02 PM
lol
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Variable on Feb 26, 2008, 03:55 AM
Quote from: Shaye on Feb 25, 2008, 10:00 PM
Yeah yeah yeah...go ahead and play it off like you're not going to tell that one to everyone you know.
you have no idea the level of ridicule I would get if I tried telling that joke to my marines.  I mean we are taling YEARS
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: whodunit? on Feb 26, 2008, 11:58 PM
I would like to study Icelandic. Is anyone here from Iceland?
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: Variable on Feb 28, 2008, 07:24 AM
why would you want to do that?
Title: Re: I just need some help
Post by: occipudding on Feb 28, 2008, 07:26 AM
maybe he REALLY likes the sun.  or bjork.