Listen to "from yesterday", the drums sound the same as RX Queen. I know drum patterns are pretty much generic most of the time and thus used by a lot people, but I'd say that beat on RX Queen is very disctintive
hah good find... no question that is exactly the same
yup, it's definitely the same. the fills are different, but the drum pattern is the same.
30 seconds to mars is overrated crap if you ask me.
I <3 30STM
I hate these guys for that
>:(
Quote from: Jacob on Dec 14, 2009, 12:32 AM
yup, it's definitely the same. the fills are different, but the drum pattern is the same.
30 seconds to mars is overrated crap if you ask me.
+1,000
Quote from: kameron632 on Dec 14, 2009, 12:46 AM
I hate these guys for that
>:(
+1
that's a fairly rudimentary drum pattern and nothing special. I'm sure you'd find it in quite a few songs outside of hard rock music.
Quote from: mikau on Dec 14, 2009, 12:25 AM
Listen to "from yesterday", the drums sound the same as RX Queen.
Good catch!
Quote from: feedthegod on Dec 14, 2009, 01:39 AM
that's a fairly rudimentary drum pattern and nothing special. I'm sure you'd find it in quite a few songs outside of hard rock music.
+100000000000000000000000
Damn its really similar. Never caught that.
Quote from: feedthegod on Dec 14, 2009, 01:39 AM
that's a fairly rudimentary drum pattern and nothing special. I'm sure you'd find it in quite a few songs outside of hard rock music.
Exactly... Like they really copied Deftones. Come on guys.
Another lousy piece of shit band that tries to be deftonic ;D
FROMMMM YESSSSTERRRRDAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
they could have at least tried to disguise it
Quote from: feedthegod on Dec 14, 2009, 01:39 AM
that's a fairly rudimentary drum pattern and nothing special. I'm sure you'd find it in quite a few songs outside of hard rock music.
it's not fairly rudimentary. maybe the bass and snare are, but placing the hi-hat on an off beat pattern over that makes it pretty different.
but I dare you, find at least 2 other songs with the same drum pattern and I'll stand corrected.
If anything this topic got me to listen to "Rx Queen" again. Absolutely great song.
beautiful song rx queen
jared leto is GAY!
the fuck i did not know he was in a band
30 seconds to mars have always been unoriginal and all around terrible. this comes as no suprise to me.
Wow, a lot of 30STM hate and for what reason?
Their selftitled album is great. Have you haters actually listened to it? A Beautiful Lie is highly enjoyable too.
The new album is pretty awful though, but don't dismiss the first two albums.
Quote from: theis on Dec 14, 2009, 06:35 PM
Wow, a lot of 30STM hate and for what reason?
I think 30STM might be regarded as a "chick" band - mainly b/c Jared Leto is the lead singer. Kinda like Sugar Ray with eyeliner and bite. I personally don't mind 30STM and think people bash them just to be "hard"
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Dec 14, 2009, 06:46 PM
I think 30STM might be regarded as a "chick" band
ok, but I think 30STM should be regarded as a "suck" band
I really enjoyed their first two albums...and still do to this day. But their new stuff was a huge letdown for me.
Quote from: theis on Dec 14, 2009, 06:35 PM
Wow, a lot of 30STM hate and for what reason?
Their selftitled album is great. Have you haters actually listened to it? A Beautiful Lie is highly enjoyable too.
The new album is pretty awful though, but don't dismiss the first two albums.
^5!!!!!!!!!
And yes,Jared AND Shannon Leto are teh secks.
I've been a fan of them for a few years, so I'm used to hearing all the shit talking. Capricorn is a great song though.
Quote from: devilinside on Dec 14, 2009, 07:47 PM
Quote from: theis on Dec 14, 2009, 06:35 PM
Wow, a lot of 30STM hate and for what reason?
Their selftitled album is great. Have you haters actually listened to it? A Beautiful Lie is highly enjoyable too.
The new album is pretty awful though, but don't dismiss the first two albums.
^5!!!!!!!!!
And yes,Jared AND Shannon Leto are teh secks.
I've been a fan of them for a few years
sounds like a boy band fan talking
Quote from: Penicks on Dec 14, 2009, 05:20 PM
the fuck i did not know he was in a band
yeah the only movie I like him in was recrium for a dream that movie was badass ;)
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Dec 14, 2009, 08:11 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Dec 14, 2009, 07:47 PM
Quote from: theis on Dec 14, 2009, 06:35 PM
Wow, a lot of 30STM hate and for what reason?
Their selftitled album is great. Have you haters actually listened to it? A Beautiful Lie is highly enjoyable too.
The new album is pretty awful though, but don't dismiss the first two albums.
^5!!!!!!!!!
And yes,Jared AND Shannon Leto are teh secks.
I've been a fan of them for a few years
sounds like a boy band fan talking
Well...most bands do consist of boys,so I guess I am.
"boy band:
a group(usually 4 or 5) sissy boys who do NOT play instruments. sing crappy pop music; stupid gay love songs that they didn't even write themselves. only pre-teens and teenie boopers like them"
so how about them n'sync boys, cute as hell,no?
Well I'm way past my teens so that part doesn't apply to me...all bands I like play their own instruments,I hate love songs and I adore pop music. So what....
*edit*
And Justin Timberlake rocks my world.
i didnt say u like music from boy bands, i said u sounded like a boy band fan talking when u talk about how hot they look
Ok...
he just wants to see your titties
that's it...
I saw 30stm a couple years ago and they put on a pretty cool show. But Im kinda over them, especially with the new garbage that was just released.
someone's awful insecure
Quote from: No More Sugar on Dec 14, 2009, 09:41 PM
someone's awful insecure
youre thinking of jared leto,right?
Quote from: Jacob on Dec 14, 2009, 08:59 AM
Quote from: feedthegod on Dec 14, 2009, 01:39 AM
that's a fairly rudimentary drum pattern and nothing special. I'm sure you'd find it in quite a few songs outside of hard rock music.
it's not fairly rudimentary. maybe the bass and snare are, but placing the hi-hat on an off beat pattern over that makes it pretty different.
but I dare you, find at least 2 other songs with the same drum pattern and I'll stand corrected.
+12,662; you're right the high hat is the same as rx queen even. it's not as technical as how abe plays it (the high hat), this song sounds exactly like how i play rx queen on the drums
yes
That 30 Seconds song had me really appreciate the drumming of Rx Queen. It's great. I love that song.
And while we're on the subject of 30STM their first cd was actually pretty good but I didn't bother with them after that.
i was never really interested in them to be honest. when i found out of their existence, i thought they were one of those 'corporate screamo bands' like the red jumpsuit apparatus...of course this was back when i was into better bands of that spectrum. however i have recently come to appreciate their debut...it's not half-bad i suppose, aside from the fact that i hate jared leto's voice when he sings those long croony notes and i don't condone his lyrics at ALL. I compare them evenly to Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. The music and the 'feel' on the first album is pretty nice for a mainstream band of their caliber. i think the same goes for "A Beautiful Lie" however, they're definitely not a band I'd think about listening to on the regular.
This is plagerism at its finest..
another case of a generic , good looking pop artist simply dipping into the vast amount of great songs that exist to shade their own "songwriting" template as having a, similiar type of recipe for success and appeal as those same artist they look too for musical tools, to represent a certain type of tender emotional songwriting sense, that the artist must so clearly possess...
Jared Leto is fat now too...so he can die
http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg (http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg)
btw, didn't Rosie who used to hang around here date one of the members of 30STM?
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 15, 2009, 08:10 AM
Jared Leto is fat now too...so he can die
http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg (http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg)
Haha, idiot. He gained that weight for a movie he did some years ago. This is what he looks like now:
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/38681323/30+Seconds+to+Mars+New+Pic.jpg)
Quote from: Jacob on Dec 15, 2009, 09:20 AM
btw, didn't Rosie who used to hang around here date one of the members of 30STM?
Really? I just thought she was a major fan.
Quote from: theis on Dec 15, 2009, 09:44 AM
Really? I just thought she was a major fan.
I'm pretty sure she at least hooked up with someone from the band at some point. not sure how serious it was. it was a long time ago.
anyways, I like their new single. the chorus is catchy. but like I said, I find them really overrated and I think they receive a lot of unnecessary hype only because it's Jared Leto. he has a good voice, but he's way too theatrical - on the verge of sounding really cheesy. and the music is really uninspired and nothing that hasn't been done to death before.
Quote from: theis on Dec 14, 2009, 06:35 PM
Their selftitled album is great. Have you haters actually listened to it? A Beautiful Lie is highly enjoyable too.
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/jesusinabowlofdirt/linkcopy.jpg)
30stm -> 8==D
:D
Quote from: theis on Dec 15, 2009, 09:44 AM
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 15, 2009, 08:10 AM
Jared Leto is fat now too...so he can die
http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg (http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg)
Haha, idiot. He gained that weight for a movie he did some years ago. This is what he looks like now:
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/38681323/30+Seconds+to+Mars+New+Pic.jpg)
LOL!
He's totally hot. ;)
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Dec 15, 2009, 03:34 PM
Quote from: theis on Dec 14, 2009, 06:35 PM
Their selftitled album is great. Have you haters actually listened to it? A Beautiful Lie is highly enjoyable too.
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/jesusinabowlofdirt/linkcopy.jpg)
what will it take to get it through to you precious
I made a thread about this awhile ago and got ripped on
Quote from: godin on Dec 16, 2009, 04:53 AM
I made a thread about this awhile ago and got ripped on
amazing how SL works
I wish jared letos face looked like it did after he got his ass kicked by edward norton then i might listen to them just because he looked like sloth.
in legal terms, does drum patterns plagiarism exist or is music plagiarism limited to the musical notes?
Quote from: theis on Dec 15, 2009, 09:44 AM
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 15, 2009, 08:10 AM
Jared Leto is fat now too...so he can die
http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg (http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/jared-lero-9-29-2006.jpg)
Haha, idiot. He gained that weight for a movie he did some years ago. This is what he looks like now:
jeez , is it really needed to call me an idiot?
unfortunatley i dont pay attention to the celebrity tabloid world...i have better things to concern my mind with...but if you feel superioir over me for knowing this...then keep up your fanaticism for jared leto...yes, keep it up...im sure you are more important for that fact...obviously you feel i am an idiot for not knowing this...yes...to not know that a skinny actor went from fat to thin makes one an idiot...well done.
stop being such a loser
this was discussed when that shitty song came on.... I realized at first without hearing any comment. I'ts the same.
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Dec 16, 2009, 07:41 PM
unfortunatley i dont pay attention to the celebrity tabloid world...i have better things to concern my mind with...
but.. didnt u like post a link to a fat jared? doesnt that mean u do pay a little attention to the celebrity tabloid?
(as for me, i dont care if the singer of fucking 30 sec to mars is fat or skinny, i mean why should i)
Quote from: deftones86 on Dec 16, 2009, 06:18 AM
I wish jared letos face looked like it did after he got his ass kicked by edward norton then i might listen to them just because he looked like sloth.
Soo......you don't listen to them because he's a total cutie? Funny. You guys know he's good looking,in fact,that's probably why ya'll are hatin on the band...like a bunch of girls hatin on someone cause they are good looking. ;D
Quote from: devilinside on Dec 14, 2009, 07:47 PM
,Jared AND Shannon Leto are teh secks.
I've been a fan of them for a few years, so I'm used to hearing all the shit talking
you seem to like 30STM because of how they look, i dont see why u dont think its ok for others to dislike like them cause of how they look.
personally i dont care of musicians faces or bodies, its music for the ears ffs.
this should go without saying but 30stm suck because they make sucky music
No...I personally like their music, them bein lookers is an added bonus. :)
I love how people hate on Jared because of his looks.
I'm a straight dude and even I can acknowledge that he's a good looking dude.
I have a great amount of respect for him. He's a fantastic actor and an accomplished musician. Jealousy is an ugly thing.
Mega ^5 to you Theis!! I think it's cool when guy's can admit that another guy is attractive....homo or no-homo. lol I give people credit where credit is due,and if I don't like their voice I'm not gonna listen just because they're good looking. Kinda like Zooey Deschanel, I think she's ADORABLE,but her singing voice makes me wanna cover my ears and scream. But I guess if people genuinely don't like the band because of their sound...that's cool. No biggie. But don't hate cause of the looks.
Quote from: mikau on Dec 16, 2009, 03:20 PM
in legal terms, does drum patterns plagiarism exist or is music plagiarism limited to the musical notes?
Technically, a drum recording can be plagiarized and prosecuted under copyright infringement - just like the guitar part of any song being replicated without permission (see: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081205/1146593034.shtml (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081205/1146593034.shtml)).
The problem is many drum beats are very common and considered "scenes a faire". This means they cannot be copyrighted, and their replication is permissible under copyright law. You would have a better case for infringement if it involved a very unique drum beat played in a very unique way. I think the programmed drums (that sound like steel drums) of Rx Queen would fall under this situation, as opposed to the live drumming.
Quote from: devilinside on Dec 16, 2009, 11:43 PM
Mega ^5 to you Theis!! I think it's cool when guy's can admit that another guy is attractive
*cough* *gueer* *cough* ;D
singer got a powerful voice.
dont see anything special with the drums. pretty standart stuff to mye ears
Not really related BUT Ryan Williams talks in this thread about how he produced and mixed the latest 30 STM album. Ryan Williams also mixed Saturday Night Wrist. Pretty cool read for all you music gear freaks out there...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/447765-30-seconds-mars-war.html (http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/447765-30-seconds-mars-war.html)
fuck that leto hollywood piece of shit
Quote from: theis on Dec 16, 2009, 11:29 PM
I love how people hate on Jared because of his looks.
I'm a straight dude and even I can acknowledge that he's a good looking dude.
I have a great amount of respect for him. He's a fantastic actor and an accomplished musician. Jealousy is an ugly thing.
You sound gay. :)
Jared Leto gets killed or fucked up in every movie he's in.
hilarious.
h8ters
same beat, so distinctive, they just chucked a few fills in.