"Lotion" is like one of my all time favorite Deftones songs, I mean all their songs effing rock, but this one of my true favs. I love listening to Chino's lyrics and trying to interpret the meaning Chino has behind them, some very deep, some not so deep. Chino is brilliant, and always keeps me guessing. But I have tried to make sense out of what he is trying to say in this song, and I just can't get it, even though its like my fav Deftones song! I'm leaning towards, its a person that thinks, he or she is like the shit and better than everyone else, but is really just an asshole, and like the person is so fake, it makes him just sick? like his stomach churn? I hate fake people, hence me user name..lol! I don't know, lol anyone else have any better interpretations? Maybe a style of music he thinks certain sucky musicians ruined? not sure:)
Thanks:)
"LYRICS" TO LOTION by the Deftones:)
I meant to come back to put out bliss
But the style is crumbling, covered canned
It was sick and no you don't even know how it comes
Shifts then gets ruined by you fucking slobs
But it's classical anyways
I can't help it makes me so sick over and over
It sits stiff bound with no heart
Fine cause this is where the separation starts arising
I can see it coming over your cloud
It's classical anyways
How cool are you?
I remember...
I feel sick (4x)
Just a bad call, it's so funny how you think
It's classical anyways
How cool are you?
I remember...
I feel sick (4x)
I'm so serious but that's not it
The thing is I don't give enough to actually give a fuck
You're plain boring and you bore me asleep
And I feel sickened
And who the fuck are you anyway you suck
It's making sick sense
Seeing how you're sticking out hardly and hoping money
Please arise up off the fucking knees
And hop off the train for a second
And try to find your own fucking heart
It's classical anyways
How cool are you?
I remember
I feel sick (4x)
Feel sick God (8x)
I feel sick right here (7x)
I feel sick!
Song is about a guy called Judd... Everyone knows that !
HAH!
I always thought it was all about bands who straight off ripped off their style (hop off the train, try to find your own fucking heart)
and there were many bands who did, an entire genre of nu-metal was born. "you're plain boring and you bore me asleep" no shit :)
It's about a guy not a girl. That's all I know
Yea i agree with from_musings thats what i always thought too and i love that song even more for it.
It's classical anyways-how cool are you now-i remember-and i feel sick
Makes me think he's saying
Its always been like this, there's always imitators, ripoff artists. Then now, oh look how cool everyone thinks you are, please i remember doing what you are doing now years ago, it makes me feel sick. be original.
Quote from: tarkil on Mar 18, 2011, 02:27 PM
Song is about a guy called Judd... Everyone knows that !
Ok, I'm sorry, I did not know. I bow down to the old skool deftones fans who know everything. I guess I am a new deftones fan, since I have only been into them for like 2 years now and I can't get enough. That is how bands get their fan base isn't it? It doesn't matter "when" in their career a person becomes a fan of a band, the important thing is that they are a "fan." I don't think Chino would like deftones fans being rude to other new deftones fans. Neither would Chi. So excuse me for asking :( and I am not some stupid kid, I am a 36 year old educated woman thank you very much.
"seeing how you're sticking out hardly and hoping money":
it's hard to stand out as a band when they all try to sound the same and yet those bands want to make money. but everything is as usual, someone comes up with something new and brilliant, and bam, everyone is there to steal the idea and milk something out of it. that's probably why he feels sick
Quote from: people_r_fake529 on Mar 19, 2011, 02:02 AM
Quote from: tarkil on Mar 18, 2011, 02:27 PM
Song is about a guy called Judd... Everyone knows that !
Ok, I'm sorry, I did not know. I bow down to the old skool deftones fans who know everything. I guess I am a new deftones fan, since I have only been into them for like 2 years now and I can't get enough. That is how bands get their fan base isn't it? It doesn't matter "when" in their career a person becomes a fan of a band, the important thing is that they are a "fan." I don't think Chino would like deftones fans being rude to other new deftones fans. Neither would Chi. So excuse me for asking :( and I am not some stupid kid, I am a 36 year old educated woman thank you very much.
Wow! Let me let you in on an internal joke. Many years ago there was a guy on this board named Judd who was sure that chino screamed "Feel sick JUUUUUUUUUDD" in this song, so you see Tarkil wasn't trying to be an ass, he's just hella funny. Congratulations on your education.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Mar 19, 2011, 11:51 AM
Congratulations on your education.
Hey! >:( enough with the sarcasm,ok? What would Chino and Chi think of your behaviour
Quote from: people_r_fake529 on Mar 19, 2011, 02:02 AM
Quote from: tarkil on Mar 18, 2011, 02:27 PM
Song is about a guy called Judd... Everyone knows that !
Ok, I'm sorry, I did not know.
Sorry but...
;D
peoplerfake, I'm in your boat - I am an old ass 33 year old who just discovered Deftones too!!
And, what makes me better than some of the meanies on this board is that, not only have I created life (3x - go me), I have converted said life forms into Deftones fans - my 9 year old asked me to download "that one song where he kinda sings, but then he screams too" to his Ipod. So, yes, even though we are a bit late to jump on the boat, we are still fans nonetheless.
And no meanies bashing me, I am totally joking about my superiority - trying to make you hard, uptight asses crack a smile.
On a side note, peoplerfake, there is another forum type thingy (although it doesn't seem to be recently updated, it still has lots of good info) http://www.deftonesworld.com/deftones.htm (http://www.deftonesworld.com/deftones.htm)
you're not a better person automatically just because you squeeze out babies here and there like a laying hen.what if all three of these people you gave birth to becomes real douches and actually make the world a more unbearable place? then i would say you're even worse, creating an army of assholes.I'm not saying it is like this in your case, just saying that the argument does not hold water ;)
Musings, laying hens don't get epidurals - poor bitches. And my childbearing superiority was all in fun. Your concern is my biggest fear as a mother. No matter how hard I try to raise my children to be competent, functioning, decent adults, there is always the factor of the unknown. There is no promise - no magical formula - to guarantee success. I do my best and hope that it'll be good enough. Raising kids is scary shit.
I always check the package when I buy eggs, making sure the hens haven't been caged but got to move freely. but they can of course still feel pain when they pop out eggs :( haven't really thought about it. will I ever buy an egg again :-\
The meaning that was mentioned about about the bands ripping of their style... I've heard that and it makes sense... I've heard someone say it was directed towards limp bizket.. Dont know if thats true but thought i'd just throw it out there..
fuck its like this aint even a deftones board anymore, just seems the 'originals' talk wotever they want about any old shit as long as they feel superior and infertile.
Its actually just sad unless ur deftones undercover in which case its fuckin hilarious.
Anyway my missus has produced my three beautiful kids and i have nothing but respect for her especially with unfortunately no pain relief so less of the dumbassedness about moms.
U guys must have fuckin huge dicks or sumthin cuz ur cockiness is insane.
To the new fans - just ignore the rat bastards on here who supposedly like deftones, its always been this way here just with less decent people here each yr. It used to be well busy but now just the same old boring fuckers being sarcastic all day and pretty much stopping anybody looking for a fellow deftones fan or general info on the band in their tracks before they even get a second post.
Quote from: deftoner664 on Mar 19, 2011, 06:54 PM
The meaning that was mentioned about about the bands ripping of their style... I've heard that and it makes sense... I've heard someone say it was directed towards limp bizket.. Dont know if thats true but thought i'd just throw it out there..
um.. okay? but what does that have to do with hens laying eggs?
EDIT: oh yeah,sorry, forgot about the original topic,carry on.
defmkjahreturns, does your moaning mean you're gonna delete your account today and start another tomorrow?
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 19, 2011, 07:43 PM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Mar 19, 2011, 06:54 PM
The meaning that was mentioned about about the bands ripping of their style... I've heard that and it makes sense... I've heard someone say it was directed towards limp bizket.. Dont know if thats true but thought i'd just throw it out there..
um.. okay? but what does that have to do with hens laying eggs?
EDIT: oh yeah,sorry, forgot about the original topic,carry on.
That's all I intend on doing when I come to this board.. Is post what the topic is about man.. I mean Isnt that the point? heh XD But anyways Lotion is one bad ass monster of a song and chino's lyrics hit just as hard as stephen's riffs.
nah not this time, maybe a few weeks :P
Alot of you guys/gals/mothers or whatever talking shit on sharing lungs or the state of it are missing all the positive things about this board. Sure alot of us are snarky and sarcastic as hell sometimes, but most of the time it's just harmless ribbing. Of course there's the random actual disagreement here or there, but that's mostly because after all these years, alot of us are just as passionate as ever about Deftones, although sure, alot of us are pretty set in our ways and views on the subject.
Personally, i welcome new blood to this site, i really think it's great, but yea if you new guys are in that early Deftones mania, that's great! When you've just discovered the greatest band in the world, that's a great feeling, trust me, i remember how that feels, totally engrossed in Deftones mentally. Just understand that most of the people on this board went through all that years ago if not a decade so cut US some slack.
I, for one, am not interested in starting a thread like "I really like Chino because he could have his own sit-com or be in pepsi commercials, or be a multimillion record selling pop artist, but he just CHOOSES not to, because all that stuff is beneath him." My point is platinum selling commercial throwaway candy pop artists aren't knocking down Chino's door to work with him any more than tribes in Africa are knocking down his door rallying for him as their tribal leader. Is Chino so cool because he just doesn't CHOOSE to be a tribal leader for the liberian nationalists? NO, THEY'RE NOT ASKING, SO HOW COULD IT BE A CHOICE ON HIS PART NOT TO DO SOMETHING HE IS NOT BEING ASKED TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE. I don't care who you are, or if you've been on this board for ten years or stared sharing lungs, THAT'S A STUPID TOPIC.
Also, defmajyfrkuyf, please stay out of it or delete your account again, stop bashing this whole board and all of us because you're not above any of this. Take a chill pill, i come on here all the time, calm down, it's not that serious. Grow some thicker skin, there's WAY more LOVE on this board than HATE, unless you're blind.
it impossible to actually get a straight answer and when people are talkin personal shit about child birth and such, thats not harmless ribbing. i shouldnt nor should anybody else be offended just for asking a question on the tones.
Plus if that is somebodies opinion on something to talk shit on childbirth then surely its mine to be offended and angrily remark on it. I got three kids, my girl gave birth 4 times, go figure.
I don't like people talkin shit on women givin birth even if its a joke no matter where they say it.
Here's the excerpt from the "secrets" tab on http://www.deftonesworld.com/ (http://www.deftonesworld.com/)
Lotion
. Till the White Pony's release, Lotion's riff was Stef's favorite...
Stef: "Well, I like'em all, but if I have to pick one, then 'Lotion'. I love playing it. It's just totally heavy and so simple."
. Here's what Chino had to say when he was asked if there was any particular person he was referring to in "Lotion":
Chino: "Yes, there is... there's a certain person that I can't really tell... a person who fucked with me. It's not about a girl though... it can be about anyone." (loudside.com)
. I was watching a video of Deftones playing at the Bizarre Festival in 1998. And when they played "Lotion" the weirdness began. First of all it was raining cats and dogs, Chino was wet from head to feet. Then during the song Chino jumped to the bars near to the crowd, but right on the 1st second some guy pulled Chino's mic and started to scream "ahhhahh", then a bodyguard punched the drunken guy on the head and Chino was able to sing again. But it was not over, cause Chino climbed the bars and started the chorus "I feel sick..." but another crazy guy started to tear up Chino's shirt as if it was a souvenir or something, he was wearing a shirt like this |here|...but Chino didn't like it at all, cause after the souvenirs man tore up his shirt, Chino almost punched him, but he didn't reach his face. But that guy was such a pain in the ass, cause after Chino's advice he started to pull another piece of Chino's shirt. Chino was furious... it was "It's classical anyways..." time and after Chino sing that, he bended over this annoying guy and screamed "WHAT THE FUCK!!" And after that the stupid fan stopped to make shit like that. Before the end of "Lotion", Chino stood still on the pit looking at his wrecked shirt and singing "I feel sick right here, I feel sick right here..." Then on the end of "Lotion" Chino climbed to the stage again and tore up the rest of his shirt and sang "Bored".
Quote from: defmkjahreturns on Mar 19, 2011, 09:32 PM
it impossible to actually get a straight answer and when people are talkin personal shit about child birth and such, thats not harmless ribbing. i shouldnt nor should anybody else be offended just for asking a question on the tones.
Plus if that is somebodies opinion on something to talk shit on childbirth then surely its mine to be offended and angrily remark on it. I got three kids, my girl gave birth 4 times, go figure.
I don't like people talkin shit on women givin birth even if its a joke no matter where they say it.
Everyone's responsible only for themselves. From_musings was only voicing his own opinion, if he was even serious. Don't take everything to heart, he is a stranger to you, what do you care what he thinks anyway, lots of people say lots of insensitive things, is that new to you? I'm just saying don't demonize everyone for your disagreement with one or two people, that's unfair as well. But to be honset i agree with him only in the sense that being a mother doesn't give you any kind of special pass, don't play cards if you don't want to get involved in a poker game.
I think the title of the song is an allusion to Silence of The Lambs when Buffalo Bill says "it puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again"
After all, violence and sex are the most common themes to their music.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 19, 2011, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Crazylegs on Mar 19, 2011, 11:51 AM
Congratulations on your education.
Hey! >:( enough with the sarcasm,ok? What would Chino and Chi think of your behaviour
Ok from_musings, this comment was so funny, seriously, I was laughing so hard I almost fell out of my chair and peed my pants..LOL ;D
@defmjk - it's quite obvious that these newcomers don't need your heroic efforts.and why would they, they're adult women.they can take care of themselves and understand that it's all in good stupid fun. there's no drama except the one you're creating by running around from topic to topic - yellin,crying - whipping up the mood. and why? because YOU are a sensitive boy who sees the world through some kind of emo-glasses.nothing wrong about being sensitive though, but you don't have to act out 100%of the feelings you have all at once because of some dumb posts on the internet. try listening to some dolphine and whale sounds on the stereo and drink some calming St. John's Wort herbal tea. THEN post. ;)
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 21, 2011, 08:08 PM
@defmjk - it's quite obvious that these newcomers don't need your heroic efforts.and why would they, they're adult women.they can take care of themselves and understand that it's all in good stupid fun. there's no drama except the one you're creating by running around from topic to topic - yellin,crying - whipping up the mood. and why? because YOU are a sensitive boy who sees the world through some kind of emo-glasses.nothing wrong about being sensitive though, but you don't have to act out 100%of the feelings you have all at once because of some dumb posts on the internet. try listening to some dolphine and whale sounds on the stereo and drink some calming St. John's Wort herbal tea. THEN post. ;)
hahaha