Fucking awesome. I saw them a few years ago on their first tour of the states. Saw them down in Portland. Shit was fucking insane. Then I saw them on their Damnation tour. With Porcupine Tree. Damnation was a shitty album in my opinion, but that show fucking ruled.
I haven't heard anything by Opeth but someone told me they have a rock album which is different from their usual black metal stuff and is awesome. Do you know what the hell they were talking about?
Yes, Damnation. It's a prog-ish album.
The thing about Opeth is, is they are a strange combination of black metal and prog. Alot of people classify them as "prog metal".
Anything Satanic or anti-God on that album?
Couldn't tell ya.
Why not?
i'm seeing them 2morrow. i'm so fuckin excited! their last record is insane!
I haven't listened to Damnation in awhile. But I heard somewhere that they're religious themselves. I haven't looked into it so as I said before, I honestly couldn't tell ya.
@333tone cool dude, have fun!
Quote from: You Fail Me on Mar 26, 2006, 09:40 PM
I haven't listened to Damnation in awhile. But I heard somewhere that they're religious themselves. I haven't looked into it so as I said before, I honestly couldn't tell ya.
They're religious? So why is their musical style black metal? Isn't that typically satanic? Unless by 'religious' you mean religiously satanic.
Dunno, I assume "black metal" is an oxymoron whilst talking about Opeth.
Blackwater Park is one of the best cds ive ever purchased, Great band.
And yeah saying black metal is satanic is a dumb stereotype. And so what if some of it is satanic... Its there belief it shouldnt affect you, its just music.
It affects me because I don't want to listen to someone dissing God. If you have a problem with that then that's your problem. And by the way, I never said black metal is satanic, I asked if it typically is. You're the one who's making dumb and stereotypical comments.
I dont have a problem with it, i apologise it came out wrong. I just hate it when people more or less judge a book by its cover. And i respect your beliefs just as i respect anyone elses. All i meant to say was if the music is good the bands beliefs shouldnt affect your appreciation of the music. But yeah to answer your question these guys arent satanic from what i can tell and either is most black metal.
Once again sorry for going stupid
Apology accepted. I hear what you're saying when it comes to not allowing a band's beliefs to affect your appreciation for their music, but for me if they're dissing something I believe strongly in in their song lyrics then I don't want to listen to it, and I strongly believe that dissing God is wrong. I'm not asking for them to stop doing it, I just choose not to listen. However, if their personal beliefs do not affect their music, i.e. they're not dissing God in song lyrics, then I'll still listen, because their beliefs are irrelevant to the music.
So you're saying that black metal isn't anti-God? That's new to me.
*wonders if Assassin is Christian and thinks about starting a new thread*
She's muslim. And no, Opeth isn't Satanic. They are very fucking relaxing to listen to at times, yet very heavy and brutal.
Download: Patterns in the Ivy II, Bleak, Deliverance...hell the Blackwater Park album is awesome.
Quote from: Assassin on Mar 26, 2006, 11:30 PM
So you're saying that black metal isn't anti-God? That's new to me.
Well im not 100% sure that the whole genre itself isnt cause im not a huge fan of it myself. But from what ive heard some of it tends to be pretty neutral on the matter. I think its just the heavy guitars and the overall brutal sound that paints the whole satanic picture. But its safe to say that Opeth are far from satanic and are definately worth checking out. Like Sam said anything of Blackwater park is great so if your interested check it out.
Quote from: You Fail Me on Mar 26, 2006, 11:33 PM
*wonders if Assassin is Christian and thinks about starting a new thread*
Yes as Sam pointed out, I'm Muslim. Still want to start a new thread You Fail Me?
Quote from: Sam on Mar 26, 2006, 11:36 PM
She's muslim. And no, Opeth isn't Satanic. They are very fucking relaxing to listen to at times, yet very heavy and brutal.
That's interesting to find out. I'll download those songs you recommended.
Quote from: Muempire on Mar 26, 2006, 11:47 PM
Quote from: Assassin on Mar 26, 2006, 11:30 PM
So you're saying that black metal isn't anti-God? That's new to me.
Well im not 100% sure that the whole genre itself isnt cause im not a huge fan of it myself. But from what ive heard some of it tends to be pretty neutral on the matter. I think its just the heavy guitars and the overall brutal sound that paints the whole satanic picture. But its safe to say that Opeth are from satanic and are definately worth checking out. Like Sam said anything of Blackwater park is great so if your interested check it out.
Ok thanks man, I'll check them out.
No problem, enjoy!
And definately check the song out Patterns in the Ivy, that song is beauty beyond words.
Quote from: You Fail Me on Mar 26, 2006, 09:08 PM
The thing about Opeth is, is they are a strange combination of black metal and prog. Alot of people classify them as "prog metal".
Opeth is far from being black metal.
Opeth is melodic death metal with a progressive sound.
Opeth are the shit!!! I saw them last year, they blew me away! And Mikael is one of the funniest guys ever, he reminded me a little bit of Billy Connoly, just his wit and the way he was speaking to the crowd. Blackwater Park is an amazing album, there seriously is not a weak moment, every second counts on that album! And they're not satanic one bit, well apart from 'The Grand Conjuration' hehe, but really that is all! Awesome band!
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Mar 27, 2006, 12:46 PM
Quote from: You Fail Me on Mar 26, 2006, 09:08 PM
The thing about Opeth is, is they are a strange combination of black metal and prog. Alot of people classify them as "prog metal".
Opeth is far from being black metal.
Opeth is melodic death metal with a progressive sound.
word son.
blackwater park, my arms your hearse, damnation - all amazing albums. new one sucks though.
Quote from: Muempire on Mar 26, 2006, 11:47 PM
Quote from: Assassin on Mar 26, 2006, 11:30 PM
So you're saying that black metal isn't anti-God? That's new to me.
Well im not 100% sure that the whole genre itself isnt cause im not a huge fan of it myself. But from what ive heard some of it tends to be pretty neutral on the matter. I think its just the heavy guitars and the overall brutal sound that paints the whole satanic picture. But its safe to say that Opeth are far from satanic and are definately worth checking out. Like Sam said anything of Blackwater park is great so if your interested check it out.
There's differences between black metal bands but most common message is anti-christianity. Misanthropy, satanism and straight satan-worshipping are also common. Musically it's close to death metal but "singing" might be the distinctive factor, in black metal it's almost like shrieking instead of growling. And nowadays, symphonic stuff isn't rare in black metal. I think some black metal is good musically (for example Dimmu Borgir's few albums) but I'm not into their messages and rarely read the lyrics.
As for Opeth, I've gotten quite bored of them but I still listen to them every now and then. "Blackwater Park" is probably my favorite album.
Opeth are a fucking good band.
Quote from: Jizzlobber on Apr 01, 2006, 09:04 AM
Opeth are a fucking good band.
Wisdom to my ears!
I love the way Mikael manages to change from the deep growls to the melodic Porcupine Tree'ish voice.
This is what death metal is about.
Fuck all the sick shit like cannibal corpse, deicide, morbid angel.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Apr 03, 2006, 10:57 AM
Fuck all the sick shit like cannibal corpse, deicide, morbid angel.
True but if anything that's thrash, not death metal.
Opeth are'nt really my cup of tea but Damnation is an amazing album.
Quote from: fireflyry on Apr 03, 2006, 11:02 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Apr 03, 2006, 10:57 AM
Fuck all the sick shit like cannibal corpse, deicide, morbid angel.
True but if anything that's thrash, not death metal.
no man. That isnt thrash. It's defintely death metal.
Slayer, old metallica, megadeth, anthrax, etc. That is thrash metal.
Each to their own and it depends where you are and who you talk to but Deicide,Morbid Angel and Cannibal Corpse have always been considered thrash in New Zealand especially amongst the goth/black metal scene here.
The vocals are'nt what I would consider death metal and the guitar work is'nt anywhere near as technical.
what would you consider death then?
Burzum and Dark Throne.
I'm not really an expert to be honest but base my comments more on listening to my friends conversations as they listen to nothing but Death metal and it's not really my cup of tea.
My friend did play me heaps of stuff recently just to show me the difference which seemed overly technical but I also assumed death metal normally had high pitched vocals as opposed to low growls?
Anyway even when I was at tech all the metal heads called those bands thrash.
Not saying they are right...just saying it appears to change depending on who you talk to.
I also thought true death metal was locational kind of like the grunge scene?
Hmm, weird. Seems like in New Zealand everything's upside down... ::)
I've learned to put Burzum and Dark Throne (even though I haven't much listened to them) in the black metal category, Cannibal Corpse and Morbid Angel in death metal (but death metal is nowadays probably the most broad subgenre in metal) and Slayer etc in thrash metal. The high-pitched voice reminds me more of speed metal (which is kinda less aggressive version of thrash metal) and I would probably put Megadeth etc in that category too. But there is bit of a point that Cannibal Corpse and others sounds like extreme thrash metal judging by their guitars. I don't know...there's so many viewpoints to metal.
And though I'm not a big fan of their music, I want to see Cannibal Corpse live. Those guys know how to put their hair in motion.
Also, to get back on topic, Mikael Åkerfeldt is one of the better vocalists in metal. He's inevitable to Opeth's versatile (Deliverance-Damnation compare) sound.
I just recently got into them. I've only heard Watershed, and I enjoyed it. What other albums are recommended?
they're all really really really really good, but if you started with watershed, i'd say just go back album by album, starting with ghost reveries. you'll love that cd. that cd sums up their general style a lot better than watershed. but yeah, every single album they've put out is golden. they do mellow and heavy equally well. if you just want a couple songs check out demon of the fall, blackwater park (title track) and godhead's lament. those are a few of my favorites from their older stuff.
awesome! thanks man
I think Ghost Reveries is their best album. Fucking amazing.
The Baying of the Hounds is one of the best songs I've ever heard. Absolutely stunning.
I'm seeing them for the third time on sunday :D
Cynic and The Ocean are supporting so it should be a fucking good show!
Also, Blackwater Park came out on my 12th birthday :P Didn't get into em til I was about 13 though but still haha.
If your new to Opeth go and buy this. You will cum.
http://www.amazon.com/Still-Life-Opeth/dp/B0013N4AT0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1227216308&sr=8-3
Quote from: penguin in the desert on Nov 19, 2008, 12:13 AM
I think Ghost Reveries is their best album. Fucking amazing.
The Baying of the Hounds is one of the best songs I've ever heard. Absolutely stunning.
Yes! Second that.
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Nov 20, 2008, 10:19 PM
Quote from: penguin in the desert on Nov 19, 2008, 12:13 AM
I think Ghost Reveries is their best album. Fucking amazing.
The Baying of the Hounds is one of the best songs I've ever heard. Absolutely stunning.
Yes! Second that.
yes, gonna have to agree with you two
Anyone heard Akerfeldt's guest appearance on Ihsahn's new album? Good fucking song.
I agree on the amazingness of Ghost Reveries.
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb84/cyppe101/HPIM1004.jpg)
:D
sweet
So Opeth's coming to India (the flea infested armit of this country, a shit excuse for a city called Chenai) on the 25th of this month.
I'm broke and might not beable to travel to another city, stay, go for the concert and travel back.
But if i do go and they play benighted or harvest or anything from blackwater and ghost...everything in my life is going to go uphill from that moment on :)
*fingers crossed*
god speed then Sleepymaggie, god speed.
yeah totally seeing this guys in april, south america tour baby. epic.