Suggest me some of their albums to buy.
kid a
Cowboys from Hell
Vulgar Display of Power
Far Beyond Driven
The Great Southern Trendkill
Reinventing the Steel
okay, which 2 of those albums should I start with?
I'd say Vulgar and Far Beyond Driven.
okay thanks man.
buy Vulgar first and then get FBD, and TGST next
you could also get 101 Proof or the Greatest Hits cds first to get a general idea of their songs before jumping into the albums
Quote from: Malpractice on Jul 31, 2006, 12:46 AM
buy Vulgar first and then get FBD, and TGST next
you could also get 101 Proof or the Greatest Hits cds first to get a general idea of their songs before jumping into the albums
nah I dont really like that live show... The quality is... crapy... ppl said that wasnt a live record.
The live version does not have the whole cemetary gates song, so its better if you get Cowboys From Hell.
DA NA NA NA RE DA NA NA NA SPECT DA NA NA NA NA ?????? ARE YOU TALKiNG TO ME AREE YOUUU@@ TALKING TO MEEEE
hahah this band is funny.
Quote from: ben on Jul 31, 2006, 05:05 AM
DA NA NA NA RE DA NA NA NA SPECT DA NA NA NA NA ?????? ARE YOU TALKiNG TO ME AREE YOUUU@@ TALKING TO MEEEE
hahah this band is the shit.
Quote from: ToneDef on Jul 31, 2006, 05:57 AM
Quote from: ben on Jul 31, 2006, 05:05 AM
DA NA NA NA RE DA NA NA NA SPECT DA NA NA NA NA ?????? ARE YOU TALKiNG TO ME AREE YOUUU@@ TALKING TO MEEEE
hahah this band is the shit.
hahaha
Quote from: ToneDef on Jul 31, 2006, 05:57 AM
Quote from: ben on Jul 31, 2006, 05:05 AM
DA NA NA NA RE DA NA NA NA SPECT DA NA NA NA NA ?????? ARE YOU TALKiNG TO ME AREE YOUUU@@ TALKING TO MEEEE
hahah this band is the shit.
true, true...
edit: totally read that wrong.
fav album: Cowboys...
if i were talking to someone just getting into Pantera i'd day buy 101 Proof and Vulgar
today I bought:
Vulgar Display of Power
Cowboys from Hell
Far Beyond Driven
pretty kickass albums.
So far, Vulgar is the best album.
Dude it is a classic album but man Psycho Holiday... what a fuckin tune! and the way Phil screams... badass!
Although Reinventing the Steel get's slated by a lot of people I actually think it's a great album, it took a while to grow on me though.
Great band! Another one of those that brings me and my mates together hehe! Vulgar is just a fucking classic downright! Quite sad I never got to see these guys, but saw the next best thing, Down. Phil's a legend!
!"#¤%&/()=?=)(/&%¤#"!
no love for The Great Southern Trendkill here i see
to me that is their finest moment. that album is just pure fucking hate recorded to tape. people slam it often because it is maybe even a little too dark even for a pantera record and often has somewhat of a white supermacist edge to it but it is still my favorite
Vulgar is definitly my fav, with FBD a close second!
Quote from: Malpractice on Aug 01, 2006, 02:29 AM
no love for The Great Southern Trendkill here i see
to me that is their finest moment. that album is just pure fucking hate recorded to tape. people slam it often because it is maybe even a little too dark even for a pantera record and often has somewhat of a white supermacist edge to it but it is still my favorite
I love that album.
When they played here for the second time they opened with Suicide Note Part 1 on the PA system and then played Part 2 as the opening track.
Awesome.
Far Beyond Driven would be my favourite album for the diversity and the fact it was one of the first really good heavy metal albums to rate on the New Zealand Top 20 charts which was an amazing feat at the time and really opened the door for the availability of good metal music here, as opposed to imports all the time, and also made New Zealand a realistic place for metal bands to tour.
Classic album.
Hmm, is Phil a racist? I watched this interview with him and he really came off that way.
Any thoughts?
I really have no idea to be honest, but he may have said something which has been blown way out of proportion... a lot of stuff he says has been really exagerrated in the past so who knows.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Aug 01, 2006, 10:59 AM
Hmm, is Phil a racist? I watched this interview with him and he really came off that way.
Any thoughts?
Nah man, thats been spread around for years.
I remember reading about lots of skinheads being into Pantera because Phil had a shaved head and he's always said thats bullshit.He used to do a speech about metal fans being united regardless of skin colour at every gig they played for years and when they played Auckland he actually asked security to remove a large group of skinheads who were beating up people in the mosh.
He ain't no racist.
Okay, cool! Thanks for clearing it up ;)
Quote from: fireflyry on Aug 01, 2006, 11:03 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Aug 01, 2006, 10:59 AM
Hmm, is Phil a racist? I watched this interview with him and he really came off that way.
Any thoughts?
Nah man, thats been spread around for years.
I remember reading about lots of skinheads being into Pantera because Phil had a shaved head and he's always said thats bullshit.He used to do a speech about metal fans being united regardless of skin colour at every gig they played for years and when they played Auckland he actually asked security to remove a large group of skinheads who were beating up people in the mosh.
He ain't no racist.
while i truly believe he isn't racist, i think there was a time where he was pretty confused about what he believed. There was a time where it wouldn't be unusual for him to spout out words like 'nigger' during shows and give seig heil salutes (this was going as recently as the superjoint ritual tours in 2004). He was even known to hand out copies of Resistance which is a white supermacist magazine to fans after shows (although i am not sure if this is 100% true) and having somewhat of an open racist Seth Putnam guest appear on The Great Southern Trendkill didn't exactly help him either. His best friend is black and his wife is jewish though so who really knows what was going on in his head during the hazy years we know as the 90's lol
Phil shaved his head to shed the 'heavy metal image'
back in the day, every metaller had long hair so like the great Kerry King he started shaving his head.
I think the racist thing came from an interview he gave. he said:
'if a black man stands on stage and says 'Im black and proud' he's regarded as this great person, but if a white guy stands on stage and says 'Im white and proud' he's a racist.'
You have to remember that Phil (and pantera) broke down a lot of barriers.
I personally love the great southern trendkill. they got a lot of shit for not taking the 'metallica road'. They could have released a Vulgar Display part two, but instead released one of the most brutal albums in Far Beyound... toured their assholes off and they never once sold out.
Quote from: Malpractice on Aug 01, 2006, 08:54 PM
His best friend is black and his wife is jewish though so who really knows what was going on in his head during the hazy years we know as the 90's lol
Drugs and black tooth grins....by the truckloads.
Quote from: fireflyry on Aug 02, 2006, 01:29 AM
Drugs and black tooth grins....by the truckloads.
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That there is the truth. Look at Dimebag (RIP), he got really really really messed up. but he never played a bad gig. never missed a note EVER.
that there is skill
There is nothing like driving through a town with a population of about 1,000 all southern baptists living 40 years in the past while blaring Far Beyond Driven.
This is a whole show, live at London Brixton in 94. It fucking brutal!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5476393816401642329&q=pantera
enjoy!
(A New Level opening is monster!)
Dig some tunes of them. Mostly though, I think the songs go on to long.
But they definatly rocked the house.
Cool find Law.
Never listened to them; I love Sabbth's cover though.
Quote from: Tuck on Aug 02, 2006, 01:35 PM
Dig some tunes of them. Mostly though, I think the songs go on to long.
But they definatly rocked the house.
Cool find Law.
cheers man!
Ah New LEVellll......of CONFiDENce...and poWA!!!
that was fucking awsome. damn they rocked the shit out of everyone.
im glad i watched that coz Pantera sortof got me into metal back in the day to begin with. Vulgar, Driven and Trendkill are heavier than most metal albums to day even!
Quote from: law on Aug 02, 2006, 10:56 AM
This is a whole show, live at London Brixton in 94. It fucking brutal!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5476393816401642329&q=pantera
enjoy!
(A New Level opening is monster!)
That brings back a lot of memories.
my dad got me into Pantera. he owns Far Beyond Driven.
That's pretty awesome !!!
And :
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/tarkil/PanteraHelicopter.gif)
Oh yeah!!! Am I right when I say that used to be your old AV tarkil? It rocks for sure! :)
it used to be indeed... too bad this board doesn't allow it anymore... :-\
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Jul 30, 2006, 09:04 PM
Suggest me some of their albums to buy.
Far Beyond Driven
Vulgar display of power
pantera fucking ruuuuuuuuuule
IM BACK!
They're best songs are definately 'im broken' and '5 mins alone', CLASSICS.
;D ;D
Quote from: Jinja Bizkit on Sep 12, 2006, 11:05 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Jul 30, 2006, 09:04 PM
Suggest me some of their albums to buy.
Far Beyond Driven
Vulgar display of power
pantera fucking ruuuuuuuuuule
IM BACK!
and a little late.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Sep 12, 2006, 11:11 AM
Quote from: Jinja Bizkit on Sep 12, 2006, 11:05 AM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Jul 30, 2006, 09:04 PM
Suggest me some of their albums to buy.
Far Beyond Driven
Vulgar display of power
pantera fucking ruuuuuuuuuule
IM BACK!
and a little late.
It has indeed been awhile sir.
Definetly start with Cowboys dude then go in Chronological order (Vulgar, FBD ext.)
anselmo's a fuckin racist
People argue over that a lot. I personally couldn't give a fuck if he is. He still = badass.
Quote from: ToneDef on Oct 26, 2006, 01:26 PM
People argue over that a lot. I personally couldn't give a fuck if he is. He still = badass.
Word... And so is Pantera !
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh fucking hostiiiile..
Dun du-du-dun duuuu-du-duuuun
Dun du-du-dun duuuu-du-duuuun
Dun du-du-dun duuuu-du-duuuun
Dun du-du-dun duuuu-du-duuuun
Quote from: tarkil on Oct 26, 2006, 01:28 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Oct 26, 2006, 01:26 PM
People argue over that a lot. I personally couldn't give a fuck if he is. He still = badass.
Word... And so is Pantera !
Double word..also there's a project called 'Rebel meets Rebel' consisting of the recording Dimebag Darrell made with Vinnie, rex and David Allen coe.
it's like country meets booze meets metal all in one. have only heard 1 song but its good.
Dime's final musical legacy so to speak
Quote from: tarkil on Oct 26, 2006, 01:28 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Oct 26, 2006, 01:26 PM
People argue over that a lot. I personally couldn't give a fuck if he is. He still = badass.
Word... And so is Pantera !
totally. they seemed like the ultimate metal band live from what I've seen... Seeing Down and Damageplan is pretty close but still I would have loved to see them.
<<---------------- Phil kicks major fuckin ass. Could quite possibly be the most influential frontman in metal history? Although he is fucked up on drugs now. :-\
I don't think Phil is a racist. First off, he loves boxing and I've heard him name george foreman as a "phenom" and one of the greatest fighters ever. Now, if he really was racist why the hell would he name a black man as one of his favorites? Also, on the Live at CBGB DVD he stops the show towards the end and singles out one guy for being an example of how intense everybody should get in the pit....a black guy. I know these are small examples, but nonetheless they are still examples. Furthermore, some might say that he was just doing this in order to dispell rumors. To that I would say no. Come on, does Phil really come off as caring what other people think?
I'm ambivalent on the topic. I think he has been somewhat in the past.
The essentials are GSTK and VDOP.
R.I.P. Dimebag - August 20, 1966 - December 8, 2004
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Dec 08, 2006, 03:53 PM
R.I.P. Dimebag - August 20, 1966 - December 8, 2004
2 years already ? Wow... RIP
Quote from: tarkil on Dec 08, 2006, 04:31 PM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Dec 08, 2006, 03:53 PM
R.I.P. Dimebag - August 20, 1966 - December 8, 2004
2 years already ? Wow... RIP
Owns every other metal guitarist known. And above all came across as a top guy. RIP.
The best riffs ever in metal belong to this guy imo.
And now Mastodon is getting in line, but they still can't beat the Dime...
Yeah Mastodon are doing fucking well. I mean they are very highly respected now, especially after the tour with Tool... but fuck me, Pantera owned in all ways!
Oh yeah, Pantera owns...
And yeah, I'd gladly fuck you my man... :)
Pantera always kicked everybodys ass.
It's fucking lamentable that this band is not still around and that dimebag is not with us. Shameful beyond shame.
i watch the Pantera: Behind the Music every time it's on
I love them...about racism...here is something i saw some time ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQZEBBg7hE
Quote from: tarkil on Dec 08, 2006, 04:37 PM
The best riffs ever in metal belong to this guy imo.
And now Mastodon is getting in line, but they still can't beat the Dime...
amen. what a GREAT metal band...
anyone dig damageplan at all? they were lucky to have dime for a short time.
people will give him more props then he deserves because hes dead. but they do to everyone so oh well.
Quote from: tarkil on Dec 08, 2006, 04:37 PM
The best riffs ever in metal belong to this guy imo.
And now Mastodon is getting in line, but they still can't beat the Dime...
Thing is Mastodon aren't metal, They're more Progressive Metal (they're amazing though) I really don't see the comparison to Pantera when it comes to them.
The band closest to Pantera is Lamb of God, They have that power groove and speed style to them, Plus they have mind blowing riffs, Just like Dimebag had fuckin crazy shit.
Dimebag was underrated for sure though, He was fuckin' killer at guitar, I never knew how much he was loved untill he was dead though, Which is always the way i spose.
Yeah Pantera/Lamb Of God both have more of a thrash strain to them than Mastodon. Mastodon are a an odd one, I love their sound - they've got a hardcore-ish sound as in Blood and Thunder yet can also be quite sludgy like on some of the tracks on Blood Mountain, definitely more prog than Pantera, etc.
Quote from: Black Elvis on Jun 03, 2007, 12:56 AM
people will give him more props then he deserves because hes dead. but they do to everyone so oh well.
thats not fucking true at all, he has always been considered one of the best guitarists ever, the only difference is many people never heard of how great he was until his death made the headlines
listen to the solo on floods and honestly tell me that shit isnt absolutely unbelievable, his technical abilities were second to none.....not to mention just about every "heavy" guitarist has borrowed a riff from him at some point in time
like pantera or not, no one can deny that he is right up there with clapton, hendrix, SRV, and eddie van halen as the best to ever live
Quote from: White Wrist on May 04, 2007, 08:05 PM
I love them...about racism...here is something i saw some time ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQZEBBg7hE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDDnyzkHsqs
they shot the wrong guy in the face. then again, maybe not.
Quote from: Subliminal on Jun 03, 2007, 01:16 AM
Thing is Mastodon aren't metal, They're more Progressive Metal (they're amazing though) I really don't see the comparison to Pantera when it comes to them.
The band closest to Pantera is Lamb of God, They have that power groove and speed style to them, Plus they have mind blowing riffs, Just like Dimebag had fuckin crazy shit.
Dimebag was underrated for sure though, He was fuckin' killer at guitar, I never knew how much he was loved untill he was dead though, Which is always the way i spose.
TO me the link between Pantera and Mastodon is that both are just plain, in your face "riff-metal". Even though you say Mastodon is not metal, but "progressive metal" (which I could agree with), I'm not fond of over distinguishing genres, so I'll stick with metal for them.
But I can see where you or theshadeisatool ar going with the prg metal and enven hxc sludgy stuff cause it's quite true...
And what you guys said about Lamb of God beeing more eqaul too Pantera is also true, at least in my eyes it is.
But there's one slight difference, LoG vocallist has a more deeper and rawer voice than the sanger of Pantera had.
Quote from: BLUMPKIN on Jun 05, 2007, 11:27 PM
Quote from: Black Elvis on Jun 03, 2007, 12:56 AM
people will give him more props then he deserves because hes dead. but they do to everyone so oh well.
thats not fucking true at all, he has always been considered one of the best guitarists ever, the only difference is many people never heard of how great he was until his death made the headlines
listen to the solo on floods and honestly tell me that shit isnt absolutely unbelievable, his technical abilities were second to none.....not to mention just about every "heavy" guitarist has borrowed a riff from him at some point in time
like pantera or not, no one can deny that he is right up there with clapton, hendrix, SRV, and eddie van halen as the best to ever live
shut up.
i know how good he is and pantera and damageplan and oh yeah ever checked out rebel meets rebel? that was gonna be his truest mending of country and metal. Cowboys do more dope.
and he definitley gets more props because hes dead, and fuck srv and eddie van halen, bunch of racists, srv doesnt do shit for me, and saying dimebag is as good as them, sure why not, he made riffs and solos and sold records so why not right?
all you can see is all you can say.
\m/
hahaha, anyone seen this? Madonna playing the intro to A New Level.
Wtf!?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EHy_2qx1suo
this band sucked balls. the only good thing they did was BLACK SABBATH's "Planet Caravan" cover.
you sir, are wrong.
Quote from: whodunit? on May 15, 2008, 07:11 AM
this band sucked balls. the only good thing they did was BLACK SABBATH's "Planet Caravan" cover.
nop!
Now that's some huge bullshit talking... Come on Yoda, you can do better...
Has anyone noticed how a lot of new stuff in the last few months has started to sound very groove-driven like Pantera? I mean it always was an influence since they were big, but recently I've noticed it seems to be the sound of the moment - Every Time I Die - The Big Dirty for instance, the new 36 Crazyfists album sounds very Pantera-esque/groovesome...
Want some groove? DevilDriver.
Quote from: theshadeisatool on May 15, 2008, 03:54 PM
Has anyone noticed how a lot of new stuff in the last few months has started to sound very groove-driven like Pantera? I mean it always was an influence since they were big, but recently I've noticed it seems to be the sound of the moment - Every Time I Die - The Big Dirty for instance, the new 36 Crazyfists album sounds very Pantera-esque/groovesome...
you should check out throwdown. their last record sounds just like pantera.
*drinks a black tooth grin*
salute Dimebag!
holy shit dude, how can i forget today is the 8th?!?!? wtf is wrong with me....
definitely is a sad date for music in general
i live in the same town it happend in and have seen shows at the venue. i choose to pretend dimebag retired
yeah. salut dimebag.
Quote from: whodunit? on May 15, 2008, 07:11 AM
this band sucked balls. the only good thing they did was BLACK SABBATH's "Planet Caravan" cover.
Oh come on...tell the millions of fans that same thing , and you'll realise that you entirely missed the reason why they changed Heavy metal forever...try deny that, and you cant. they were one of the innovaters in the genre, and Dimebag Darrell prehaps the most innovative metal guitarist in the last 20 years
Hmmm, I forgot about that... Now I know which album I will put in my stereo tonight...
Salute Dimebag !