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Title: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Deftonesaddict on Feb 01, 2008, 01:56 AM
i heard Chino rapping on Back To School and another song ( MX ? ) i wonder what would you guys think of a song with a bit of chino rapping in it thrown in the new album

also why doesn't he use it more often?
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: White Wrist on Feb 01, 2008, 03:12 AM
answer: No.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mikau on Feb 01, 2008, 03:34 AM
a little adrenaline-like rapping wouldn't be bad, i guess.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: There Will Be Blood on Feb 01, 2008, 05:06 AM
7 words rapping was good
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: ignore the fashion on Feb 01, 2008, 05:54 AM
no, i think that deftones era is behind us now.

dont get me wrong chino can do some serious rapping, but i just don't think it'd be right for them now.

i'd love for them to prove me wrong though.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: deftonekid on Feb 01, 2008, 06:38 AM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 01, 2008, 05:54 AM
no, i think that deftones era is behind us now.

yeah no more rapping i guess, it'd be awesome tho...
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: tarkil on Feb 01, 2008, 06:51 AM
Quote from: White Wrist on Feb 01, 2008, 03:12 AM
answer: No.

+1
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: VictorPL on Feb 01, 2008, 09:54 AM
I mainly listen to hip hop and when i hear Chino rap it kinda sucks imo like the lyrics from back to school. It sounds cool on some songs but I think he should stick to moaning and screaming.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Feb 01, 2008, 10:20 AM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 01, 2008, 05:54 AM
no, i think that deftones era is behind us now.

Yes, I agree. Time has passed.  Anyway the man has done some cool raps. For example, that weird "rap?" he did in lotion.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Atomic on Feb 01, 2008, 10:46 AM
Chino's rappin is awesome, i dont think theres gonna be any on eros tho
maybe he'll one day part ways with Deftones and go gangsta, his debut album: Ghetto Moreno
Quote from: VictorPL on Feb 01, 2008, 09:54 AM
I think he should stick to moaning and screaming.
i liked the chino sex tape too :)
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: st3v3n_g on Feb 01, 2008, 01:35 PM
I like almost all their (officially released) stuff, but my opinion, nah... I'm more into songs like 'Hexagram', 'When Girls Telephone Boys,' but I do like his mellow style in songs like 'Digital Bath' and 'Riviere' too
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: cyppe101 on Feb 01, 2008, 03:50 PM
Quote from: st3v3n_g on Feb 01, 2008, 01:35 PM
I like almost all their (officially released) stuff, but my opinion, nah... I'm more into songs like 'Hexagram', 'When Girls Telephone Boys,' but I do like his mellow style in songs like 'Digital Bath' and 'Riviere' too
Yeah, same here
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: theshadeisatool on Feb 01, 2008, 03:58 PM
Mixing hip-hop with metal or rock doesn't seem so demonic as it did back in '99 '00 '01. As long as it's done well, in a tasteful and meaningful way... They had one demo for SNW, mostly beats, and I though 'twas quite good... if they did that I wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Corleone on Feb 01, 2008, 05:06 PM
yeah i want some cali rap


lawl
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Martin on Feb 01, 2008, 05:09 PM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 01, 2008, 05:54 AM
no, i think that deftones era is behind us now.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: goldpony on Feb 01, 2008, 05:52 PM
no no no, possibly a break down rap but not a full song
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: rainier on Feb 01, 2008, 06:06 PM
nonono... no more black moon...
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Jacob on Feb 01, 2008, 07:34 PM
Quote from: goldpony on Feb 01, 2008, 05:52 PM
no no no, possibly a break down rap but not a full song

that'd be the ultimate gay, haha. I'd rather have a song where he does his "rap" over the verses or the chorus. but a song with normal singing and a rap break down would sound like nu-metal silliness.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: goldpony on Feb 01, 2008, 07:45 PM
Quote from: aenemic on Feb 01, 2008, 07:34 PM
Quote from: goldpony on Feb 01, 2008, 05:52 PM
no no no, possibly a break down rap but not a full song

that'd be the ultimate gay, haha. I'd rather have a song where he does his "rap" over the verses or the chorus. but a song with normal singing and a rap break down would sound like nu-metal silliness.

like you wouldnt go gaga over a song like teething
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Jacob on Feb 01, 2008, 08:06 PM
4-5 years ago I would. not now. it'd just feel silly. I like their new aggressive edge better. and the mellow stuff is as good as they get imo.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mr.sinister on Feb 01, 2008, 08:25 PM
yeah i think a song with some rapping would be okay on a new album. the rapping on engine no. 9 kills. they should try and do something like that.

but yeah I also think that those days of the deftones are over. chino hasn't rapped in a song since around the fur, really.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Alvar on Feb 01, 2008, 08:47 PM
it shouldnt be hip-hop-rapping like in BTS.

just some combination of rapping and screaming like in rapture (since chino cant really scream anymore like he did in the past), i'm sure
he can do crazy things with his vioce to make it sound agressive or just weird.
but rapping is not essentially needed anymore, their style changed to much.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Deadradio on Feb 01, 2008, 10:13 PM
No rapping
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: deftonesboy on Feb 01, 2008, 10:19 PM
I think rapping would be great on the new album, if its done right. Chino sounds great when he raps, would love to hear another song or two lke that.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: theshadeisatool on Feb 02, 2008, 12:05 AM
Like I said people into rock and rock bands would not have touched rapped vocals or hip-hop in the post-nu metal era (ie 2001/2002+) because of the connotations it brings - limpbizkit, Linkin Park, Rapcore,etc.. It seems, with the dust settled, more acceptable now, if it's done in a meaningful, perhaps intelligent way. I'm not talking about about Engine #9 or BTS-type rapping but more staccato vocals and hip-hop-esque beats (particularly pre-gangsta) wouldn't seem as bad as before.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: occipudding on Feb 02, 2008, 12:34 AM
i like that live disney cover song.  that was cool.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: ignore the fashion on Feb 02, 2008, 01:58 AM
Quote from: goldpony on Feb 01, 2008, 07:45 PM
like you wouldnt go gaga over a song like teething

teething will always be my favorite deftones song.

i just simply fucking love it. its agressive and raw.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 02, 2008, 03:20 PM
Quote from: White Wrist on Feb 01, 2008, 03:12 AM
answer: No.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: rainnyx4 on Feb 02, 2008, 05:38 PM
I brought this idea up before and I said that for the most part their music just doesn't fit rapping into it very well anymore.  Maybe more trip-hop type stuff (Lucky You, PCP, King Diamond, etc.) but that's it.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 02, 2008, 05:41 PM
I think live is fine, just not on the album...  ;)
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Fireal1222 on Feb 02, 2008, 05:54 PM
lets see if chino can even hit a high note before we worry about if whether or not he can rap
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 02, 2008, 06:00 PM
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Feb 02, 2008, 05:54 PM
lets see if chino can even hit a high note before we worry about if whether or not he can rap

OH. he's gonna get high alright.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mr.sinister on Feb 03, 2008, 06:21 AM
Quote from: Chino on Eros
yo
yo
check it
UH
what?
thats right
yeah
check check it
uh uh what
bring it
yeah yeah nigga
uh what
peace
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: samson simpson on Feb 03, 2008, 06:29 AM
Quote from: mr.sinester on Feb 03, 2008, 06:21 AM
Quote from: Chino on Eros
yo
yo
check it
UH
what?
thats right
yeah
check check it
uh uh what
bring it
yeah yeah nigga
uh what
CROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Atomic on Feb 03, 2008, 11:45 AM
Quote from: samson simpson on Feb 03, 2008, 06:29 AM
Quote from: mr.sinester on Feb 03, 2008, 06:21 AM
Quote from: Chino on Eros
yo
yo
check it
UH
ballsack?
thats right
yeah
check check it
uh uh ballsack
bring ballsacks
yeah yeah nigga
uh ballsack
CROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBALLSACK
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: blondie on Feb 03, 2008, 11:56 AM
chino is fat and only getting fatter.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Shaye on Feb 05, 2008, 02:21 AM
Quote from: blondie on Feb 03, 2008, 11:56 AM
chino is fat and only getting fatter.

LMFAO. I love Chino, but he needs to stop that shit.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mr.sinister on Feb 05, 2008, 02:50 AM
really? i looked like he was slimming down a bit.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 06, 2008, 09:05 PM
Quote from: mr.sinester on Feb 05, 2008, 02:50 AM
really? i looked like he was slimming down a bit.

He totally is...
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: White Pwny on Feb 06, 2008, 09:12 PM
He is.  I stood next to him in June.. and he looks SO much thinner in real life than on TV and such.    He is NOT that big.   Maybe the ppl that constantly call him fat.. are just really fucking tiny.     
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 06, 2008, 09:22 PM
They are haters!
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: White Pwny on Feb 06, 2008, 09:28 PM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 06, 2008, 09:22 PM
They are haters!

Agreed.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mr.sinister on Feb 06, 2008, 11:04 PM
whatever as long as he keep that essence that really makes him Chino, then i don't give a fuck if he was so fat that he was in a wheelchair. i am pretty sure Chino didn't get respect b/c he was thin.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Shaye on Feb 06, 2008, 11:10 PM
Quote from: mr.sinester on Feb 06, 2008, 11:04 PM
whatever as long as he keep that essence that really makes him Chino, then i don't give a fuck if he was so fat that he was in a wheelchair. i am pretty sure Chino didn't get respect b/c he was thin.

QFT. I still think he's one of the sexiest men on earth anyway, and talented none the less.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: White Wrist on Feb 06, 2008, 11:13 PM
he should take care about his voice. no rapping, please
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mr.sinister on Feb 06, 2008, 11:21 PM
someone told me, i don't remember maybe it was like 6 years ago, that when artists scream in their music for example chino (except he used chester from LP) they spray some liquid down their throat or drink something that helps them from messing up their vocals chords. is this really out there, if it is then maybe chino should use it so that he can prolong vocal damage.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Shaye on Feb 06, 2008, 11:22 PM
I do believe there is a drink or something that coats the vocal chords to prevent strain on them. Not sure what the stuff is though.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 06, 2008, 11:24 PM
Quote from: Shaye on Feb 06, 2008, 11:22 PM
I do believe there is a drink or something that coats the vocal chords to prevent strain on them. Not sure what the stuff is though.

Seamen.

That's how Chritina Aquerulera can sing so well.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mikau on Feb 07, 2008, 12:55 AM
how
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 06, 2008, 11:24 PM
Quote from: Shaye on Feb 06, 2008, 11:22 PM
I do believe there is a drink or something that coats the vocal chords to prevent strain on them. Not sure what the stuff is though.

Seamen.

That's how Chritina Aquerulera can sing so well.

how can seamen be drinked?

(http://seamenthemusical.com/db3/00207/seamenthemusical.com/_uimages/SeamenGroupWeb.jpg)
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: White Wrist on Feb 07, 2008, 01:06 AM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 06, 2008, 11:24 PM
Quote from: Shaye on Feb 06, 2008, 11:22 PM
I do believe there is a drink or something that coats the vocal chords to prevent strain on them. Not sure what the stuff is though.

Seamen.

That's how Chritina Aquerulera can sing so well.

LOLZ
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: deftoolsys07 on Feb 08, 2008, 01:23 AM
i wouldn't mind chino rappin' on the next album, something lhabia style would be bad ass. it'd be cool to hear him spit out some flows on their last album here...
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: defTHE1s on Feb 10, 2008, 02:50 AM
i'm hoping to hear some "rapping" in the style of E#9, or lotion, but with metal comming out from new stef's 8-string guitar... that would be.....  :D kind of new deftones style  8)
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: deafnotes on Feb 17, 2008, 09:17 AM
im a slit my penis if he raps in eros
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Atomic on Feb 19, 2008, 05:48 AM
kinky, can i watch?
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: sickened on Feb 19, 2008, 06:14 PM
No rapping, although I have liked every rap stuff Chino has made,  I just  think that it wouldn't suit them anymore... And besides, Chino's whispery vocals beats his rapping anytime.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Grandulon on Apr 22, 2008, 04:02 AM
CHINO SHOULD RAP LIKE LIL WAYNE AND OR JUeLs Santana!! OMFG!!

NO....onto serious dialogue


I think if there should be any rapping...it should be sometype of spoken word (Though I haven't heard CHI's work so I don't know if he might be able to contribute) But in the likes of Saul Williams, Tom Waits, and Cedric Bixler Zavala (when he does a distorted voice in eng. or span. similarly sounding like TomW8sish type cryptic stanzas)  As Stef and Chi pull some distored-drone type sounds, and Abe busts a more downtempo staggered broken almost dub type drums.  Oh and of course Franko spinnin his wax cause he doesn't really cut them up much..but he does a lil sum'n.

Or if working with a rapper...some that Chino should consider are El-P and Aesop Rock, for a more experimental type style.  But he's Chicano and from Cal so call up Soul Asassins get The HIll, hell tell Muggs to grab Sick Jackyn n it'll be a fogged up stoner type joint.....WITH Muggs or someone Producing so it'll come out BETTER THAN Black Moon or whatever the title of the track of b-sides is...BReal can mosdefinately come with better shit than that, and CHINO..I guess he wasn't too fukt up that night..or when he wrote the track....give dude his drinks, spliffs,pills, whatever his poison is to get him in that mindstate to bring a FUKEN BEAST OUT N LEAVE DeFUKENstruction!!

SEEN?

Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: pony_01 on Apr 22, 2008, 08:54 AM
chino should not do rap things on eros.
maybe whispering stuff would be cool (like lhabia and mx).
and one thing,
chino should stop playing guitar on eros!
he should be focused with his voice.
just share my opinions.
i really hate when chino did some high pitch vocal like on "Beware", it's too much!
it would be nice if he sing like on "lotion" chorus.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: cyppe101 on Apr 22, 2008, 02:17 PM
Chino doesn't play guitar on the new album, he said so himself.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: m3dic on Apr 23, 2008, 09:25 AM
Shit fuck bitch! No! Deftones are special because they dont try and harness that bullshit rap that took control in the nu-metal era. In WP upwards they have established a more solid sound and not simply copying some fad. And dont bring in back to school, cause that was commercialization by the suits..
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: wither-I on Apr 23, 2008, 03:27 PM
Quote from: cyppe101 on Apr 22, 2008, 02:17 PM
Chino doesn't play guitar on the new album, he said so himself.

i know he said this, but i believe he will wait for certain  songs after their mostly ritten and add some extra "chunkage" in them. but most of all i think your right
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: i kill for fun on Apr 26, 2008, 02:03 AM
yea, i wouldnt mind some spittin since he hasnt done it in 8 yrs...but as long as its not done in a pop sort of way..like BTS..i mean just look at the vid..cheerleaders and shit...
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: Northcal on Jul 16, 2014, 05:05 AM
I would say go for it as a bonus track,why not fuckk it and lose some weight 2like 20 pounds. So many great rappers in sactown like brotha lynch hung-t-nutty -cbo pick 1 chino.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: mrpelon94 on Aug 06, 2014, 12:14 AM
nope....it sucks not having new Deftones material
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: nicklav on Aug 06, 2014, 03:58 AM
God, no.
Title: Re: Should Chino do a rap song on Eros?
Post by: teethin on Aug 07, 2014, 06:48 PM
no because he would fail big time. his young energy is gone and half of his voice too,he can bearly do engine no. 9 anymore.