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Title: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: wither-I on Feb 02, 2008, 12:06 AM
Epigram exerted from "beyond good and evil" by Nietzsche.

-"Christianity gave Eros poison to drink: -he did not die from it, but degenerated into a vice."  8)
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: theshadeisatool on Feb 02, 2008, 12:11 AM
Interesting...
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: deftonesboy on Feb 02, 2008, 12:20 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Feb 02, 2008, 12:06 AM
Epigram exerted from "beyond good and evil" by Nietzsche.

-"Christianity gave Eros poison to drink: -he did not die from it, but degenerated into a vice."  8)

I cant help but feel guys that we are reading into the "EROS" title a bit too much.....

You know when Chino is asked why Eros? His response will be something along the lines of -

"Well i was wasted one night and I heard someone say Eros and thought it sounded cool..... thats it"
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: Frankz0r on Feb 02, 2008, 12:22 AM
Quote from: deftonesboy on Feb 02, 2008, 12:20 AM
I cant help but feel guys that we are reading into the "EROS" title a bit too much.....

You know when Chino is asked why Eros? His response will be something along the lines of -

"Well i was wasted one night and I heard someone say Eros and thought it sounded cool..... thats it"

Best Eros-related post ever.
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: wither-I on Feb 02, 2008, 04:39 AM
Quote from: deftonesboy on Feb 02, 2008, 12:20 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Feb 02, 2008, 12:06 AM
Epigram exerted from "beyond good and evil" by Nietzsche.

-"Christianity gave Eros poison to drink: -he did not die from it, but degenerated into a vice."  8)

I cant help but feel guys that we are reading into the "EROS" title a bit too much.....

You know when Chino is asked why Eros? His response will be something along the lines of -

"Well i was wasted one night and I heard someone say Eros and thought it sounded cool..... thats it"
maybe the = signs threw you off. im not hinting to any superstious lineage between the three...i just think nietzsche is a wonderful writer and philosopher, and in such close present accordance with the new deftones record coming out- being as it is "Eros", i desired to share with you all a similar topic... just thought it was cool.
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: White Wrist on Feb 02, 2008, 05:24 AM
Eros is..................everything!

Deftones!
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: mikau on Feb 02, 2008, 07:24 AM
what does vice mean?
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: Hidalgo on Feb 02, 2008, 10:28 AM
Quote from: deftonesboy on Feb 02, 2008, 12:20 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Feb 02, 2008, 12:06 AM
Epigram exerted from "beyond good and evil" by Nietzsche.

-"Christianity gave Eros poison to drink: -he did not die from it, but degenerated into a vice."  8)

"Well i was wasted one night and I heard someone say Eros and thought it sounded cool..... thats it"
yea, hah, that is exactly what he's gonna say. you know your Chino
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: theshadeisatool on Feb 02, 2008, 03:16 PM
Quote from: mikau on Feb 02, 2008, 07:24 AM
what does vice mean?

In that sense it means like immorality or a bad life style - drugs, prostitution, etc. Opposite to a virtue,
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: theshadeisatool on Feb 02, 2008, 03:18 PM
I am actually coming round the the title now, it's simple and stands out. I think it's better than 'Saturday Night Wrist ' as a title now. That really doesn't seem that catchy anymore...
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 02, 2008, 03:18 PM
I believe the idea, or the term Eros with the band is regarding 433 Eros. The 13 mile astriod, the meaning behind it must be all there own... Or, as rumors says, sexual.
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: neurotic on Feb 02, 2008, 05:20 PM
quit thinking deftones are tool.
you guys think waaaay too much about this title (which will probably change eventually)
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: mikau on Feb 02, 2008, 05:27 PM
no it won't, they even have a website for it.

and deftones album names can have some ammounts of meaning: "there's a lot of different references for White Pony. One of them is a cocaine reference and there's a lot of stuff...have you ever heard stuff like in dream books that if you dream about a white pony then you're having a sexual dream? There's a lot stuff that kinda goes around it. And there's an old song [that goes] "ride the white horse." That's obviously a drug reference song. I just kinda dug it."

Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 02, 2008, 05:32 PM
Quote from: neurotic on Feb 02, 2008, 05:20 PM
quit thinking deftones are tool.

Deftones aren't tool?
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: bloody_liver on Feb 03, 2008, 08:20 AM
Quote from: deftonesboy on Feb 02, 2008, 12:20 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Feb 02, 2008, 12:06 AM
Epigram exerted from "beyond good and evil" by Nietzsche.

-"Christianity gave Eros poison to drink: -he did not die from it, but degenerated into a vice."  8)

I cant help but feel guys that we are reading into the "EROS" title a bit too much.....

You know when Chino is asked why Eros? His response will be something along the lines of -

"Well i was wasted one night and I heard someone say Eros and thought it sounded cool..... thats it"

chino's actually very intilegent, even more so than u would think through interviews
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: 13hourstoparadise on Feb 04, 2008, 05:43 AM
I dont' think anyone was impling that he wasn't...
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: weakcure on Feb 06, 2008, 06:02 AM
Quote from: bloody_liver on Feb 03, 2008, 08:20 AM
Quote from: deftonesboy on Feb 02, 2008, 12:20 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Feb 02, 2008, 12:06 AM
Epigram exerted from "beyond good and evil" by Nietzsche.

-"Christianity gave Eros poison to drink: -he did not die from it, but degenerated into a vice."  8)

I cant help but feel guys that we are reading into the "EROS" title a bit too much.....

You know when Chino is asked why Eros? His response will be something along the lines of -

"Well i was wasted one night and I heard someone say Eros and thought it sounded cool..... thats it"

chino's actually very intilegent, even more so than u would think through interviews

Yeah, I think Chino deserves more credit when it comes to intellect and creativity. He has a very original way of approaching things, but beyond that, a lot of his lyrics are pure gold; they're so complex and metaphorical. And not to discredit Deftones fans in any way, but I feel like if Chino did come with the title for whatever reason (say from Nietzsche), he wouldn't get much of a reaction. I don't know if he'd actually say something like, "Yeah, well, I was reading Nietzsche one day after finishing Heidegger and thought Eros would make a pretty good name and shit." The real meaning or intention behind the title may not be made obvious... but then again, it might just be the product of a random thought.

Either way, it's totally badass that you made a connection with a Deftones' album name and Nietzsche. Kudos.
Title: Re: Nietzsche=Eros=Deftones
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Feb 06, 2008, 10:20 AM
Quote from: Frankz0r on Feb 02, 2008, 12:22 AM
Quote from: deftonesboy on Feb 02, 2008, 12:20 AM
I cant help but feel guys that we are reading into the "EROS" title a bit too much.....

You know when Chino is asked why Eros? His response will be something along the lines of -

"Well i was wasted one night and I heard someone say Eros and thought it sounded cool..... thats it"

Best Eros-related post ever.

oh yeah.



Anyway, good research Wither-I.