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Title: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Oct 24, 2008, 01:04 AM
hey, why vote?

why not, not vote?

there are no candidates to your freedom, life, and love.

IT IS YOUR CHOICE.

politicians do not know the meaning of liberty, they pursue to lock it up and drive it mad...

can't you see? STOP PRETENDING,

"YOUR" FREEDOM, IS "NOT" "HAVING" TO "CHOOSE" -does that not make sense.

nothing will change unless you do personally.

so i call for a fucking strike, and let them vote in whomever they please and then we will have an excuse to hate the decisions "they" make,
BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE OUR OWN!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

OR YOU MAY    ???
AND THEN  :(
MADNESS ENSUES once your daily bread arrives stale and rancid  >:(
[fear] THENCE  :-[
ASHAME WILL LEAD TO  :'(
EMPIRICAL SADNESS

should have kept your fucking mouth shut and you would still have your air con. and fucking snickers bar, and digital wealth, and digital health, and stress, pain, LAW, angst, WAR, sucky ass movies, false hope, and THE STRAIGHT FORWARD DENIAL OF "PEACE".
take your slavery somewhere else cause we dont want it...

watch....
:P
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: downtownpony on Oct 24, 2008, 02:00 AM
im not gonna vote. fuck that shit, were keepin them bitches hott.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Oct 24, 2008, 02:12 AM
You can say that you don't have to choose, but either way they will make you Obey.  That's not freedom.  They're candidates who stand for something.  Vote for them and show that you at least stand for genuine politicians and real issues.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Oct 24, 2008, 02:43 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 24, 2008, 02:12 AM
You can say that you don't have to choose, but either way they will make you Obey.  That's not freedom.  They're candidates who stand for something.  Vote for them and show that you at least stand for genuine politicians and real issues.
no.

IM A FREE THINKING HUMAN FUCKING BEING WITH THE LOVE I DESERVE IN "mYSELF" GODDAMMIT AND IM NOT GONNA FUCKING LISTEN TO SOME WAR MONGERING "PROPHETS" OF IMMINENT DISPARITY.

VARIABLE, man.... i know your smart cant you just believe in something else.

why does it always have to be "the lesser of the two evils"

just like i always say,
peace will not be had because;
PEOPLE DO NOT WANT PEACE.

they want the facade, because they are washed into believing it is the "only" way.

whomever can not see i would "like" to say, does not deserve "their" "freedom"

lies, all fucking lies.
wake up! wake up! wake up!

IF YOU DO NOT FEED THE SYSTEM IT "WILL" DIE.

IT WILL DIE AS IT SHOULD, A FLAWED IDEAL, AND CREATION... A HOIRRIBLE THING THAT HAS "DESTROYED"

MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF INNOCENT LIVES THROUGHOUT TIME AND EVEN MORE SO NOW...

HAS ANYONE BEEN THE SUFFERER OR JUST THE WITNESS.

"WE ARE BOTH" GODDAMMIT 

AND IT WILL BE "OURSELVES" TO BLAME AS WE WATCH THE GLOBAL MASSACRE OF A RACE WHOM FAILED TO JUST LOVE AND UNDERSTAND RATHER THAN BE "RIGHT OR WRONG" OR "JUST" OR "CAUSE" OR "REASON AND TRUTH"...

"none which cannot be had will ever be had" -fabrication
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Oct 24, 2008, 01:38 PM
whoa
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 02:47 PM
sounds like hippie talk
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 24, 2008, 02:53 PM
i vote not to vote

The system will devour its prey

Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
sure, we have to right not to vote but why be so fucking stupid.this upcoming election will definetily affect our lives and our history.sure our choices arent really that great, and yes were getting fed lies and you cant belive a fucking word that comes out of these ploiticians mouths.but still the the future of this country lies in one of there hands and we as people have to make a fucking choice.if you choose to just throw that away then......well i dont what to say now ,fuck it its your choice.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
exactly, either way, 50% of this country is going to pissed with whoever is president. one reason to vote is to keep the power out of idiots' hands for the first time in eight years (mccain/palin)
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:18 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
exactly, either way, 50% of this country is going to pissed with whoever is president. one reason to vote is to keep the power out of idiots' hands for the first time in eight years (mccain/palin)
my point exactly
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 24, 2008, 03:26 PM
this is ONE party system

it doesnt matter who wins

Colin (asshole) powell and Joe (buttfuck) Biden have already predicted that not only will obama win but he will have a crisis on his hands very early and will have to make "unpopular" decisions

The "change" will continue to be for the worse

Get out while you still can
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:37 PM
W. had a crisis early on too. Clinton had some economic issues and Bosnia. what's your point? every American president gets tested.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 24, 2008, 03:42 PM
yea but did they blatantly say on national television   

"guaranteed"   "mark my words"   "I Promise"

and how about the ridiculously self opposing

"on January 21st or 22nd there will be a crisis,  that we dont even know about yet"

What the fuck is that!!!

Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 24, 2008, 03:45 PM
and all of those "problems" that W and Clinton had have led directly to us going to war and losing our rights by the truck load

but all of these correlations are coincides right?


Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: goldpony on Oct 24, 2008, 03:58 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 02:47 PM
sounds like hippie talk

lol
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 04:02 PM
yeah i agree we are losing our rights. our bill of rights is slowly becoming obsolete.
i am just saying why would everyone just NOT vote? that's just dumb, people are saying both guys are evil this time around...when was the last presidential election that featured a guy whom everyone believed to be awesome? never.

personally, obama supports what i believe, which is why i concluded long ago he was going to receive my vote. on the other hand, mccain had flip-flopped on issues and beliefs so many times it's not funny. the guy was a war hero. great. but as a senator he's been inconsistent and voted for shit i don't believe in. since running for president, he's acted like a scumbag. so in my opinion, there is one guy for the job.

and for the time being, it is a 2-party system- get over it.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: BloodyKnifePrty on Oct 24, 2008, 10:24 PM
I voted today.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Oct 25, 2008, 03:44 AM
Quote from: goldpony on Oct 24, 2008, 03:58 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 02:47 PM
sounds like hippie talk

lol
ok.

so how is possessing or striving for "peace" in life a bad thing that should be gawked at as you two have just done?

If you can even answer that in an honest way you have my vote...

come on. prove wrong. i know your trying to get something, by calling me a hippie. and what does that even mean to you? -a hippie? just because i talk about "peace" and "love" and "joy" and "good".

...and you find a way to dog on that So blatantly through cryptic, and meaningless trash talk... does it even make sense?

ARE YOU JUST BAD ENOUGH TO ONLY FIGHT AND DEFACE THE "GOOD"??????????? REALLY??!!
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 25, 2008, 04:55 AM
Bah Humbug
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 25, 2008, 10:14 AM
fackin jurkss
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: bright lights, big city on Oct 25, 2008, 03:26 PM
jesus christ dude, calm down. i'm just messing around, maybe i watch too much south park.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Oct 25, 2008, 05:41 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:18 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
exactly, either way, 50% of this country is going to pissed with whoever is president. one reason to vote is to keep the power out of idiots' hands for the first time in eight years (mccain/palin)
my point exactly
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
sure, we have to right not to vote but why be so fucking stupid.this upcoming election will definetily affect our lives and our history.sure our choices arent really that great, and yes were getting fed lies and you cant belive a fucking word that comes out of these ploiticians mouths.but still the the future of this country lies in one of there hands and we as people have to make a fucking choice.if you choose to just throw that away then......well i dont what to say now ,fuck it its your choice.
In my opinion.  This kind of logic has ruined our country.  Saying that you are just voting for these horrible candidates because they are the only real choices or that you are just trying to keep the greater of two evils out of office is just crap.  It has empowered the republicrats to do whatever they want.  Send the biggest lap dogs into office and run this country from behind closed doors with no accountability from the people ( that is the definition of a republic after all ) so by voting for these people, you have actually voted away your rights. 
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: bright lights, big city on Oct 25, 2008, 07:27 PM
is what we have now even considered a real democracy? i feel dumb asking this, but seriously, the ancient greeks had democracy, and i'm sure we don't have the same system as them.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Oct 26, 2008, 12:54 AM
In theory democracy works. but currency ruins it.

and communism is utopia. same same.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Oct 26, 2008, 01:01 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 25, 2008, 05:41 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:18 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
exactly, either way, 50% of this country is going to pissed with whoever is president. one reason to vote is to keep the power out of idiots' hands for the first time in eight years (mccain/palin)
my point exactly
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
sure, we have to right not to vote but why be so fucking stupid.this upcoming election will definetily affect our lives and our history.sure our choices arent really that great, and yes were getting fed lies and you cant belive a fucking word that comes out of these ploiticians mouths.but still the the future of this country lies in one of there hands and we as people have to make a fucking choice.if you choose to just throw that away then......well i dont what to say now ,fuck it its your choice.
In my opinion.  This kind of logic has ruined our country.  Saying that you are just voting for these horrible candidates because they are the only real choices or that you are just trying to keep the greater of two evils out of office is just crap.  It has empowered the republicrats to do whatever they want.  Send the biggest lap dogs into office and run this country from behind closed doors with no accountability from the people ( that is the definition of a republic after all ) so by voting for these people, you have actually voted away your rights. 

exactly man. exactly.

and for some reason no one really gets it. and it only takes half intelligence...

people are just conditioned their entire lives to see the world in a certain manner, within a certain bounds, to a certain degree, against certain odds, and an odd freedom...
if people treated their lives as they would art, they would see the limitlessness in creativity and from, and function, and MEANING all together. there is no bounds or decision to be "scaled" or "deciphered" when proposing/figuring your love, there is just the random act of creating and destroying in the most beautiful ways, all the same.

its the "power of I"/"will to power" over one's self and their life. the choice and the guarantee that true success comes in the clash of our wits against the relentless marriage of time and space, and understanding the beauty but never recognizing it as a specific bird... 
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Oct 26, 2008, 02:32 AM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 25, 2008, 07:27 PM
is what we have now even considered a real democracy? i feel dumb asking this, but seriously, the ancient greeks had democracy, and i'm sure we don't have the same system as them.
There is a really big difference between how our government is supposed to be run, and how it actually does operate.  If you ask if our country is a democracy and a republic according to the constitution, yes.  The way things actually go down? No.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 27, 2008, 08:36 AM
Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich


you make the choice
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Oct 27, 2008, 11:26 PM
the ones who support it are only the ones who reap the benefits.

however menial the comfort may be, they are still the furthest from the Genocides in effect from it.

and until they have trod in the places, the mainstays, of the maimed and oppressed, their statue is slated and clean, and will fail to witness the horrors of capitalism, socialism, fascism, and communism under the inherent direst which comes with the machine.

from the currency which bases it, to the direst of the faces which support the very foundation of its value and function, the ghosts are the ones rarely seen and spoken for when WE: the comfortable, the rich, the full-bellied, the pompous, the beneficiaries, the "cool"; (the popular, prized and honored and respected), the talkers and debaters, the choosers, the deities and martyred, the blind, ignorant and cunningly withdrawn, and consciously enslaved and savvy with morale and justice, and atonement, and greed, and lawful and controlling, and the upstanding-law-abiding soldiers of the bureaucracies, and the critics and judges, and the hammer, and the gun, the power "IN-HAND", the fake and the shrouded, the incurious (the ones who know of "right" and "wrong"), THE PROUD,  piloted, the line-dwellers, the "Unionists", the freedom-dealing powers, and the institutional, the ambitious, and the injurious...

befell them to rule, murder, rape, starvation, disease, and genocide to exploit their very essence of being and life, for the trade value of something which is made out of thin air...

setting quality at birth and staging the constant tragedy WE support in the favor of "nothing better" and accepted as "the way" or the "order of things" which is committed under the "Institution".
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: devilinside on Oct 28, 2008, 03:22 PM
They are closing school next week for the elections. When I was in high school and was voting for the first time (Clinton),they didn't close school......bastids!
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Oct 28, 2008, 03:27 PM
We all know Bob Dole really won that election
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 28, 2008, 06:58 PM
I voted for Ross Perot
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Jedidiah Solomon on Oct 29, 2008, 08:19 PM
Forget democracy's and socialism and communism and any other isms and scisms dragging your minds in mental slavery, if you wanna vote than fine, but like the most high said, "apart from the kingdom of the lord no nation is greater than another but if a strong goverment finds it may with impunity destroy a weak people then the hour strikes for that weak people to appeal to the League of Nations to give its judgment in all freedom. God and history will remember your judgment."

And that is the realest, that is exactly what's happening here, america is doing this to the middle east and even their own right here on the Reservations and the Ghettos and even right in the middle class, even people that found with perseverence to get a college education for an outragous price, even they are being ripped off.

"THE COST OF LIVING GETS SO HIGH, RICH AND POOR THEY START TO CRY, NOW THE WEAK MUST GET STRONG, THEY SAYING OH WHAT A TRIBULATION< THEM BELLY FULL< BUT WE HUNGRY A HUNGRY MOB IS AN ANGRY MOB> THE RAIN A FALL BUT THE DIRT IT TOUGH, A POT IS COOK BUT THE FOOD NOT ENOUGH."
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Oct 30, 2008, 03:42 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 25, 2008, 05:41 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:18 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
exactly, either way, 50% of this country is going to pissed with whoever is president. one reason to vote is to keep the power out of idiots' hands for the first time in eight years (mccain/palin)
my point exactly
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
sure, we have to right not to vote but why be so fucking stupid.this upcoming election will definetily affect our lives and our history.sure our choices arent really that great, and yes were getting fed lies and you cant belive a fucking word that comes out of these ploiticians mouths.but still the the future of this country lies in one of there hands and we as people have to make a fucking choice.if you choose to just throw that away then......well i dont what to say now ,fuck it its your choice.
In my opinion.  This kind of logic has ruined our country.  Saying that you are just voting for these horrible candidates because they are the only real choices or that you are just trying to keep the greater of two evils out of office is just crap.  It has empowered the republicrats to do whatever they want.  Send the biggest lap dogs into office and run this country from behind closed doors with no accountability from the people ( that is the definition of a republic after all ) so by voting for these people, you have actually voted away your rights. 


Let's get married.

Also, I am not voting.

Also also, if you ARE voting (and I don't know if they are using electronic voting machines) do NOT fucking use a voting machine UNLESS it produces a peice of paper that you can look at and see who you voted for. If you do not understand why, watch the movie Uncounted. The past presidential election was FUCKED because of this method. It is OBSCENELY easy to install hidden software that will flip votes. The only way you could actually see that the software is even there is by looking at the source code and how the fuck do you do that before you vote? You can't. DO NOT use a voting machine.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 30, 2008, 03:05 PM
i actually went against my own non voting beliefs and sent in an absentee ballot from singapore today

For president i voted :   exterminate the two party system, no more genocide, and abolish the monetary system


I hope he wins!
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: devilinside on Oct 30, 2008, 03:07 PM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Oct 30, 2008, 03:42 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 25, 2008, 05:41 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:18 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
exactly, either way, 50% of this country is going to pissed with whoever is president. one reason to vote is to keep the power out of idiots' hands for the first time in eight years (mccain/palin)
my point exactly
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
sure, we have to right not to vote but why be so fucking stupid.this upcoming election will definetily affect our lives and our history.sure our choices arent really that great, and yes were getting fed lies and you cant belive a fucking word that comes out of these ploiticians mouths.but still the the future of this country lies in one of there hands and we as people have to make a fucking choice.if you choose to just throw that away then......well i dont what to say now ,fuck it its your choice.
In my opinion.  This kind of logic has ruined our country.  Saying that you are just voting for these horrible candidates because they are the only real choices or that you are just trying to keep the greater of two evils out of office is just crap.  It has empowered the republicrats to do whatever they want.  Send the biggest lap dogs into office and run this country from behind closed doors with no accountability from the people ( that is the definition of a republic after all ) so by voting for these people, you have actually voted away your rights. 


Let's get married.

Also, I am not voting.

Also also, if you ARE voting (and I don't know if they are using electronic voting machines) do NOT fucking use a voting machine UNLESS it produces a peice of paper that you can look at and see who you voted for. If you do not understand why, watch the movie Uncounted. The past presidential election was FUCKED because of this method. It is OBSCENELY easy to install hidden software that will flip votes. The only way you could actually see that the software is even there is by looking at the source code and how the fuck do you do that before you vote? You can't. DO NOT use a voting machine.

I think they're all using the new computer ones.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Oct 30, 2008, 03:27 PM
every non voter should go down to the polls and clog up the whole place so that no one can vote

and when neither candidate gets a single vote the system will crash and can be reborn as a perfect formless energy field with no bias
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: theis on Oct 30, 2008, 06:21 PM
yeah dont vote. that way your friends will think you're cool. a real rebel!

::)
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Oct 30, 2008, 07:20 PM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Oct 30, 2008, 06:21 PM
yeah dont vote. that way your friends will think you're cool. a real rebel!

::)

Sometimes you're a real idiot.

Quote from: devilinside on Oct 30, 2008, 03:07 PM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Oct 30, 2008, 03:42 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 25, 2008, 05:41 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:18 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
exactly, either way, 50% of this country is going to pissed with whoever is president. one reason to vote is to keep the power out of idiots' hands for the first time in eight years (mccain/palin)
my point exactly
Quote from: scatterbrain on Oct 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
sure, we have to right not to vote but why be so fucking stupid.this upcoming election will definetily affect our lives and our history.sure our choices arent really that great, and yes were getting fed lies and you cant belive a fucking word that comes out of these ploiticians mouths.but still the the future of this country lies in one of there hands and we as people have to make a fucking choice.if you choose to just throw that away then......well i dont what to say now ,fuck it its your choice.
In my opinion.  This kind of logic has ruined our country.  Saying that you are just voting for these horrible candidates because they are the only real choices or that you are just trying to keep the greater of two evils out of office is just crap.  It has empowered the republicrats to do whatever they want.  Send the biggest lap dogs into office and run this country from behind closed doors with no accountability from the people ( that is the definition of a republic after all ) so by voting for these people, you have actually voted away your rights. 


Let's get married.

Also, I am not voting.

Also also, if you ARE voting (and I don't know if they are using electronic voting machines) do NOT fucking use a voting machine UNLESS it produces a peice of paper that you can look at and see who you voted for. If you do not understand why, watch the movie Uncounted. The past presidential election was FUCKED because of this method. It is OBSCENELY easy to install hidden software that will flip votes. The only way you could actually see that the software is even there is by looking at the source code and how the fuck do you do that before you vote? You can't. DO NOT use a voting machine.

I think they're all using the new computer ones.

Then don't fucking vote. Those things are pure evil. If there is no paper trail, you could be voting for the wrong person.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: goldpony on Oct 30, 2008, 07:20 PM
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Oct 30, 2008, 06:21 PM
yeah dont vote. that way your friends will think you're cool. a real rebel!

::)

to quote pee-wee "im a loner dottie, a rebel"
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: goldpony on Oct 30, 2008, 07:24 PM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Oct 30, 2008, 07:20 PM

Then don't fucking vote. Those things are pure evil. If there is no paper trail, you could be voting for the wrong person.

in my neck of the woods (ohio) you dont get a piece of paper to take home, but a paper printout does appear under this little plastic window you can review after voting. im seriously leaning to vote 3rd party this year (green or libertarian; i know two wholly different viewpoints) rather than either of the major party candidates, but in the end i probeably will vote mainstream so my vote doesnt end being thrown away
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Oct 30, 2008, 07:40 PM
Quote from: goldpony on Oct 30, 2008, 07:24 PM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Oct 30, 2008, 07:20 PM

Then don't fucking vote. Those things are pure evil. If there is no paper trail, you could be voting for the wrong person.

in my neck of the woods (ohio) you dont get a piece of paper to take home, but a paper printout does appear under this little plastic window you can review after voting. im seriously leaning to vote 3rd party this year (green or libertarian; i know two wholly different viewpoints) rather than either of the major party candidates, but in the end i probeably will vote mainstream so my vote doesnt end being thrown away

There's no such thing as "throwing your vote away". It's not a fucking competition to vote for the guy you think will be elected, it's a fucking competition to get the best person possible for the job elected, and if you think the green or libertarian candidates would be up to the job, then fucking vote for one of them.

The piece of paper is not necessarily for you to take home, it is to leave some sort of physical evidence of who you voted for so when McCain gets voted in somehow, you can hold up that little piece of paper and say "Fuck you, my vote didn't count". While I am not voting, if we have another bullshit election, I am fucking calling for a revolution.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Jedidiah Solomon on Oct 30, 2008, 08:36 PM
What's to say any vote anybody ever counted has ever counted in this country? The last two elections were blatantly stolen, and to be honest there's never been a true president in this country, people will say clinton was, but fuck that, alls he did good was Egonomics, that's not enough. It's only been recent since Africans and minorities have even been able to vote in the long history of this country built off of every sin in the book. And once they were able to Kennedy was elected so they killed him and his brother, hired the one of the worst presidents in history and killed his little brother, then on to some more horrible presidents like reganomics and bush stirring up trouble in the middle east so his little son could come in and put us in the worst situation we've ever been in since the beginning of this Un Just country.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: bright lights, big city on Oct 30, 2008, 10:41 PM
for some reason, i kind of agree with you. especially about politics in the 60s and reaganomics
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Oct 31, 2008, 01:57 AM
Um Clinton was good on economics?  You guys are lame.  Draining social security to pump more money into the economy to hide how fucked we were is not good economics.  Its called securing a legacy so the next president is fucked.  You can also pay attention to the "boom - bust" economic cycle of this country.  Something that is not controled by the president.  Clinton got lucky and just happened to be in office for the boom.  And that is fact my friends, not speculation.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Jedidiah Solomon on Oct 31, 2008, 01:59 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 31, 2008, 01:57 AM
Um Clinton was good on economics?  You guys are lame.  Draining social security to pump more money into the economy to hide how fucked we were is not good economics.  Its called securing a legacy so the next president is fucked.  You can also pay attention to the "boom - bust" economic cycle of this country.  Something that is not controled by the president.  Clinton got lucky and just happened to be in office for the boom.  And that is fact my friends, not speculation.

Speaking of facts and Legacy's, Let's talk about somthing alot more important than egonomics, and that is the WAR, cause by bad economic decisions by BUSH for HIS LEGACY, being the WAR.

that is facts my BRETHREN not speculation.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Oct 31, 2008, 02:02 AM
I didn't realize that me or anyone else was defending Bush or the war?
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 01, 2008, 12:50 AM
You're defending the idea of war in general by being in the military.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: nonesuch on Nov 02, 2008, 09:25 PM
wake up,   clinton and the bushes and prob the last 20 presidents are all on the same team

all of this economics shit has been orchestrated to create worldwide panic and to give the keys to the kingdom to one ruling body that will block by block take away most our basic liberties

they are using the "incremental" method so that the masses dont notice and soon enough the secret will be out but it will be too late


save us o great new order, we dont know what to do!!
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 01:29 AM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 01, 2008, 12:50 AM
You're defending the idea of war in general by being in the military.
I think that is a gross over simplification Josh. 

Just because I am in the military does not mean I support preemptive war.  I'm pretty sure that if China started lobbing missiles over at us you would support war too.  Pretty sure that if a country rolled it's navy up on our shores and started landing their marines and launching aircraft in an assault to take D.C. that you would be calling for me and guys like me to protect the nation.  So don't give me that shit.  There are all kinds of different circumstances for war.  All kinds of different circumstances for military action.  If you can't see any value in a military at all.  Then you are naive.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: shine down unshy on Nov 03, 2008, 02:57 AM
Quote from: nonesuch on Nov 02, 2008, 09:25 PM
wake up,   clinton and the bushes and prob the last 20 presidents are all on the same team

all of this economics shit has been orchestrated to create worldwide panic and to give the keys to the kingdom to one ruling body that will block by block take away most our basic liberties

they are using the "incremental" method so that the masses dont notice and soon enough the secret will be out but it will be too late


save us o great new order, we dont know what to do!!

Here's an idea.  What if  the real truth is that  people are just simply fucking up and making bad financial decisions?
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 03:35 AM
Ill tell you what.  You take one look at how much control the US government had/has over the country before and after this financial crisis then come back and say that.  Secretary Paulson spent 250 million of the bailout to buy private banks and federalize them.  Something that was not mentioned when the bailout was passed I might mention.  Thats just the first dose of the money.  Who knows what he will do with the rest.  That's also just banks.  We already know the rest of the money is at least going to buy private businesses and federalize them.  This entire crisis was created by the federal reserve.  All the leading world economist agree.  Then it gets "fixed" by the federal government, and suddenly the size and power of the government has greatly expanded.  Yeah, total coincidence
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: shine down unshy on Nov 03, 2008, 03:48 AM
You're preaching to the preacher, man.  I'm very well aware of how much our government is very much involved in our current financial crisis.  But, I am right about one thing, they are definitely making terrible decisions.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 03:52 AM
well we can all agree on that.  Terrible for the people anyways
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: shine down unshy on Nov 03, 2008, 03:53 AM
Exactly.  The people.  That's what this is all about, son.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 03, 2008, 05:22 AM
Quote from: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 01:29 AM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 01, 2008, 12:50 AM
You're defending the idea of war in general by being in the military.
I think that is a gross over simplification Josh. 

Just because I am in the military does not mean I support preemptive war.  I'm pretty sure that if China started lobbing missiles over at us you would support war too.  Pretty sure that if a country rolled it's navy up on our shores and started landing their marines and launching aircraft in an assault to take D.C. that you would be calling for me and guys like me to protect the nation.  So don't give me that shit.  There are all kinds of different circumstances for war.  All kinds of different circumstances for military action.  If you can't see any value in a military at all.  Then you are naive.


No shit.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: devilinside on Nov 03, 2008, 05:35 AM
I just got this email...


"Next Tuesday we will elect the next President of the United States. The result will have great consequences for the nation.

This election offers a choice is between two men with dramatically different visions of the future. We have strong feelings about this choice. But we feel even more strongly that all Americans, regardless of political preference, have a stake in the outcome and should vote in this critical election.

This is likely to be a close election. Your vote matters. Please use it and make a difference.

Sincerely,
Trent Reznor"



What a turd.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 02:53 PM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 03, 2008, 05:22 AM
Quote from: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 01:29 AM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 01, 2008, 12:50 AM
You're defending the idea of war in general by being in the military.
I think that is a gross over simplification Josh. 

Just because I am in the military does not mean I support preemptive war.  I'm pretty sure that if China started lobbing missiles over at us you would support war too.  Pretty sure that if a country rolled it's navy up on our shores and started landing their marines and launching aircraft in an assault to take D.C. that you would be calling for me and guys like me to protect the nation.  So don't give me that shit.  There are all kinds of different circumstances for war.  All kinds of different circumstances for military action.  If you can't see any value in a military at all.  Then you are naive.


No shit.
well then what the fuck was your point?
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 02:54 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Nov 03, 2008, 05:35 AM
This election offers a choice is between two men with dramatically different visions of the future.
wrong.  They are almost identical.  Fail for Trent
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: goldpony on Nov 03, 2008, 09:43 PM
i know who im voting for

(http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123054/2180708/2203590/2203593/04_Presidents_Fonzie.jpg)
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 04, 2008, 11:20 AM
Quote from: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 02:53 PM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 03, 2008, 05:22 AM
Quote from: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 01:29 AM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Nov 01, 2008, 12:50 AM
You're defending the idea of war in general by being in the military.
I think that is a gross over simplification Josh. 

Just because I am in the military does not mean I support preemptive war.  I'm pretty sure that if China started lobbing missiles over at us you would support war too.  Pretty sure that if a country rolled it's navy up on our shores and started landing their marines and launching aircraft in an assault to take D.C. that you would be calling for me and guys like me to protect the nation.  So don't give me that shit.  There are all kinds of different circumstances for war.  All kinds of different circumstances for military action.  If you can't see any value in a military at all.  Then you are naive.


No shit.
well then what the fuck was your point?

No idea.
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: Variable on Nov 04, 2008, 08:06 PM
lol
Title: Re: voting strike
Post by: wither-I on Nov 09, 2008, 12:08 AM
Quote from: Variable on Nov 03, 2008, 02:54 PM
Quote from: devilinside on Nov 03, 2008, 05:35 AM
This election offers a choice is between two men with dramatically different visions of the future.
wrong.  They are almost identical.  Fail for Trent
yeah he actually lost all of his cool points.

maybe even in negative digit karma :(