I thought we had talked about this before... but I couldn't find it. So...
Anyone else watch this? I love this show! How exciting. And quite a cliffhanger this last episode was!
Discuss.
i love this show. i'm a little pissed with this season it started really slow. it just started to pick up a couple episodes ago. and now theres only like 2 left and it feels rushed.
Yeah. I was a little disappointed that he let the DA become so close like that. But... now that bit him in the ass. *sigh* wonder how in the hell he's gonna get outta this predicament.
i think he's got to take him out. he has killed an innocent, so he fits dexters code. and he knows the truth about dexter. he's got to make him disapear willingly (not looking likely) or by killing him.
Uhm.. did you see the last episode?
yeah...your right i forgot about the end there. but i know dexter is going to get away from that guy. that or debbie will find dexter too. and then he will definitly kill miguel.
God, I hope so.
Miguel has to die. And so does the skinner!! Double murder perhaps?! wooOoOT!
It would be awesome to see Dexter go straight sociopath and start laughing while the skinner begins skinning him.
Miguel must die. I have been saying that since like episode 4 of the season.
Also, I thought this was shaping up to be the worst season of the three but it has gotten really good that last few episodes.
I watched the last episode a couple of days ago. I love Dexter but at a whole I was kinda disappointed with the third season. it was predictable, never got remotely thrilling and full of filler moments that had nothing to do with anything really. still great 'cause it's Dexter though.
I watched quite a bit of the first series but missed most of the second. I really liked it though, I might try and download it.
I've missed a bit,but I loved the show. Six feet under was my fav show,so I like watching this.
I was disappointed this season too. I am still wondering what the significance of his blood dripping on her wedding dress will play... What an odd story line with the whole Miguel Prado thing. *sigh*
Quote from: White Pwny on Dec 18, 2008, 01:51 PM
I was disappointed this season too. I am still wondering what the significance of his blood dripping on her wedding dress will play... What an odd story line with the whole Miguel Prado thing. *sigh*
yeah, I kinda felt like they trivialized the whole thing with Dexter's lifestyle and behavior with the Miguel Prado storyline. they went from Dexter being one of the most horrible and coldblooded murderers around to just anyone being able to murder without hesitation. and with all the people dying around Dexter it's really getting hard to keep accepting that no one is ever one bit suspicious towards him. I mean, he
is the perfect killer with all his knowledge and experience from the job. plus he behaves really strange in social situations. it's strange that no one ever thinks about that.
as for the blood thing, I'm guessing they're going to question why he's bleeding when he onlt broke his arm falling down the stairs. they might figure out he had a confrontation with the skinner. oh, and that leads me to another thing: the should be lots of traces left behind from Dexter at the spot where he killed the skinner. his blood should be there, his fingerprints, probably hair etc. and I'm gonna be really pissed off if no one realizes the skinners neck was broken before he hit the car.
Be prepared to be pissed off. haha. Of course it will play out that way. No one ever figures it out. I know the show is about him... so it wouldn't be very productive if he ended up busted and in jail. However, you are right. Ppl can't just die continually around you and no one ever question how! Yes, there had to be Dexters blood from falling and breaking his hand. But he was casted.. did he NOT go to the hospital to get that? Or does he know how to perfectly cast himself ONE handed?! It just really makes no sense. BTW.. did you notice the birthdate of Rita on her Marriage License that he looked up online?! It says she was 4 months old when married! Born in 89. It was really fucked up.
My girlfriend bought the first season earlier today and we watched the first two episodes today. Very interesting so far. I'm really liking it.
Quote from: White Pwny on Dec 03, 2008, 02:19 PM
I thought we had talked about this before... but I couldn't find it. So...
Anyone else watch this? I love this show! How exciting. And quite a cliffhanger this last episode was!
Discuss.
I was like, this must be crap. Then, I watched one episode and went completely crazy about this!
In Poland we had only the first season, yet :-\
great show.
The show is amazing... I really hope when they finally end the show Dexter gets caught. It would be awesome seeing him confess to all the crimes.. Deb and Rita's reaction...
HAHHAA. So I just saw the episode where the ice truck killer (I still don't know who he is yet) brought the woman that Dexter killed back to where he killed her, essentially "framing" him. The part where he erases his alias from the list of people who are getting that drug was AMAZING. His alias was Patrick Bateman. Did anyone else pick up on this? Sooooo fucking awesome. So motherfucking awesome. I loved that.
haha, no I missed that. that's pretty damn cool.
Quote from: defskull on Feb 05, 2009, 03:08 AM
HAHHAA. So I just saw the episode where the ice truck killer (I still don't know who he is yet) brought the woman that Dexter killed back to where he killed her, essentially "framing" him. The part where he erases his alias from the list of people who are getting that drug was AMAZING. His alias was Patrick Bateman. Did anyone else pick up on this? Sooooo fucking awesome. So motherfucking awesome. I loved that.
Sidenote: Do you know that Dexter and his sister on the show.... are married in real life?! They just got married NOT long ago.
EDIT: Didn't know you were actually sitting and watching the last season episodes.
why would you want to spoil it for him like that?! edit your post before he sees it, silly!
Why in the hell can't ppl be on the same Episode schedule as ME! The Ice truck killer was 2 seasons ago... now Miguel Prado was in this past years season. Now, I'm anxiously awaiting the NEXT one.
hahaha. maybe some people actually have a life, you know!
says the guy who's watching every episode of Chuck for the second time in a row...
cmon now. I know ppl have lives.. But they can't be busy 24/7 and there are DVR's!!!!!!
so i watched half of season 1 of dexter and i think it SUCKS..its done so badly and hardly realistic...just wanted to know
does it get better or is it going to be this slow and fake throughout? its as bad as gossipgirl for me at the moment.
Ok so I've finished the first two seasons. I really like this show. I wasn't happy with how the second season was going in the beginning but damn, it got really good with the Doakes plot lin. I do feel that Lyla didn't truly get what she deserves though. I absolutely hate that bitch.
I loved her at first, then I just wanted to fuck her, then I hated her. but I'd still fuck her.
Finally finally up to speed. The third season came out on DVD recently and I just finished it tonight. Going into the third season I had heard a lot of people being disappointed but for the most part I think I enjoyed it. It's as if each season has a major theme that Dexter is going through in life and this season that theme was friendship. I think the major point of this third season is that Dexter cannot have a close friend like that and maintain his murdering lifestyle.
every season is epic
episode one of season 4 leaked on isohunt (torrent) somehow months ahead of schedule, check it out
Great as per usual and John Lithgow is a sick fuck
Quote from: Jacob on Feb 25, 2009, 09:22 AM
I loved her at first, then I just wanted to fuck her, then I hated her. but I'd still fuck her.
ditto...minus the wanting to fuck her parts.
Anyone else see Dexter tonight?
I tried to watch this show but couldn't get into it....
I watched last night....it was ok. I do wonder how the whole wreck thing is gonna play out.
I thought the episode was good in the sense that it set up the rest of the season. We have all these storylines set up, and now they're going to play out.
new episode tonight!. this season is for sure an improvement on the third season which i found a bit of a let down after the second seasons awesomeness.
I'm starting to feel like things get a bit predictable on this show. too early to tell yet if you theories are true, I'll just have to wait and see.
it's still good and so far I like it more than the 3rd season.
Yeah I have a feeling a lot of it is going to make more sense by the end. Seemingly pointless stuff might be rather significant.
dexter knows what he's doing
he always knows
Quote from: nonesuch on Nov 11, 2009, 11:37 PM
dexter knows what he's doing
he always knows
apparantly not.
I'm just waiting for him to really screw up, it would be interesting. killing an innocent person is a pretty fucking big screw-up, but as long as he can hide that he'll be fine. I want someone to find out who he is, like in the second season.
My prediction for the end of the series is that he comes to a point in his life where he no longer needs his Dark Passenger. It would be pretty interesting character development.
yeah, that's probably how they're gonna end it. it would be too "dark" and sad for people to handle if they ended it with him being executed for all his crimes. people would rage if they didn't get a happy ending.
I actually hope they do end it soon. either this season or the next.
Yeah I agree. And yeah it might be the more "sappy" ending, but it'll also be the ending that shows how much Dexter has changed. In a way, kind of shown how he really didn't need Harry. Harry sort of created this monster that probably wouldn't have been a monster if he didn't teach him how to kill.
im sure john lithgow's crazy ass will figure it out, if he already hasn't
I'm just not liking this season that much. I think it's all too predictable now...they need to spice it up a bit. Make Cody start killing stuff or something so Dexter would have someone to coach. I dunno....
if dex kills lithgow it would way to hypocritical
they should become a tag team in the WWE and kill wrestling fans all over the country
okay this weeks episode was ephed up. trinity's family is crazy and that reporter chick is his daughter. i say unto you...SNAP!
Ya, that was quite a turn of events! I was like..>> WHOA.
i love this show. i've seen all of season 1 & 2. gonna rent season 3 & 4 on netflix
just download
I loved the part where Dexter took trinity down in the kitchen and the family freaked over the knife...hahaha!!!
Yeah that episode was great, tho it was stupid of Dexter to lose control like that. Tonights episode sets up the most exciting finale of the series I think. Shit has officially hit the fan.
Quote from: defskull on Nov 12, 2009, 09:10 PM
Yeah I agree. And yeah it might be the more "sappy" ending, but it'll also be the ending that shows how much Dexter has changed. In a way, kind of shown how he really didn't need Harry. Harry sort of created this monster that probably wouldn't have been a monster if he didn't teach him how to kill.
I agree. My brother just recently bought me the first season of
Dexter on DVD, so I've been re-watching it, and I never really noticed how much Harry did turn Dexter into a monster. It makes me wonder if whether or not Dexter would have turned into what he is. We know that Dexter had been killing animals when he was younger, but would have still continued to murder after Harry had influence on him?
This season is definitely 10x better than last season. John Lithgow is a creepy mother fucker and I love it!
WOW!!!! I soo didn't expect that ending. :(
Lets just say WHAT THE FUCK?
Seriously I thought I had a pretty good idea of where this show was going. Fort he longest time I thought the show would end with Dexter finally being able to give up his Dark Passenger.
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But now that Rita is dead. Now that Harrison was left in almost the exact situation as Dexter. I do not know what will happen. How does he explain this to the police? Will he become a seriously cold serial killer now? I really wanted the show to end happily with him being able to give up his killing but it really doesn't seem like it now. It really seems like the only way this show is ending is with Dexter dying or going to jail. Wow wow wow. I'm going to have to re-watch this season again.
Well...I have a friend reading the books, and according to him Harrison or Cody has a dark passenger too. He told me that in the book Harry is gone out of Dexters life but then returns, and either Harrison or Cody says something like Your friend is back...Meaning he's been seeing Harry the whole time. But I'm gonna gt the books and see what's goin on.
Apparently Cody is like Dexter in the books. See I don't really like the idea of this. Why must Dexter have a protege? I'd rather see him make substantial growth. Also apparently in the books Debra knows that Dexter kills. It seems as though they're slowly leading to that happening in the show. I could see that possibly being the season 5 twist. But I'd rather it happen sooner. The relationship between Deb and Dexter is amazing. I think it's my favorite part of the show. They (and we) learn more and more about each other every time they talk. When they were at Arthur's house I really thought Dexter was going to tell her that he kills.
all i can say is holy fucking shit fuck! i was honestly shocked and i've never experienced that from a show before. i'm a long time dexter fan and this season they finally managed to top the end of the second season. i'm still blown away and can not wait for the next season. they sure know how to keep me watching.
that was fucking great. what a fucking twist. i was expecting a happy ending. not for the show to be over, but they usually wrap up the seasons with a smile.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 14, 2009, 05:42 AM
Apparently Cody is like Dexter in the books. See I don't really like the idea of this. Why must Dexter have a protege? I'd rather see him make substantial growth. Also apparently in the books Debra knows that Dexter kills. It seems as though they're slowly leading to that happening in the show. I could see that possibly being the season 5 twist. But I'd rather it happen sooner. The relationship between Deb and Dexter is amazing. I think it's my favorite part of the show. They (and we) learn more and more about each other every time they talk. When they were at Arthur's house I really thought Dexter was going to tell her that he kills.
i hope they don't go with cody being his protege. i really don't like that idea at all either. and harrison is much to young to be fucked up from this. i could see dexter becoming colder like you suggested though. and deb finding out would make for a good twist/main plot for the next season.
I just kept yelling at the screen. Seriously, Rita? I was not expecting that whatsoever. The shitty part is that we're going to have to wait another year to see how this all unfolded.
I was surprised that they filmed Dexter in Long Beach. I recognized all the places I used to hang out around.
This is my favorite season. It made up for last season, definitely.
just watched the finale and I'll have to agree with the lot of you - what a shocker that was!
I expected something to happen when he walked into his house, just a little twist to keep us hanging for next season. and when the phone rang and up until we saw Rita in the bathtub I kept thinking that she would be home and that she had seen/heard something. I did not expect her to be dead.
huge question though - how the hell did she die? are we supposed to think Trinity did it? if so, when and how did he manage that?
Yes, of course we are to believe Trinity did it... bathtub killings are his deal! Not only that.. he found out how Dexter was found..... in his mothers blood... and that's how he had Dexter find HIS son..... trippy as hell.. it was effed up.
Quote from: Jacob on Dec 15, 2009, 09:32 PM
just watched the finale and I'll have to agree with the lot of you - what a shocker that was!
I expected something to happen when he walked into his house, just a little twist to keep us hanging for next season. and when the phone rang and up until we saw Rita in the bathtub I kept thinking that she would be home and that she had seen/heard something. I did not expect her to be dead.
huge question though - how the hell did she die? are we supposed to think Trinity did it? if so, when and how did he manage that?
it was indeed trinity and i suppose it was when dexter was at trinity's house when the whole swat deal went down. the second time i watched it i felt i understood the smile on trinity's face when he was driving away. kinda like "i killed that fucks wife".
maybe I need to rewatch it and pay more attention to the timeline. I just couldn't figure out when Trinity would have the opportunity to kill her.
there's something else I was wondering about regarding the bathtub murders btw - why does he kill middle-aged women in the bathtub if they're supposed to represent his sister? I can only imagine she was in her teens as he was 10 when she died.
Quote from: Jacob on Dec 16, 2009, 06:40 AM
maybe I need to rewatch it and pay more attention to the timeline. I just couldn't figure out when Trinity would have the opportunity to kill her.
there's something else I was wondering about regarding the bathtub murders btw - why does he kill middle-aged women in the bathtub if they're supposed to represent his sister? I can only imagine she was in her teens as he was 10 when she died.
yeah that always kinda messed with me too but i just figure he had his reasons. there was still a bit of mystery to the character and hopefully more things about him resurface in the next season.
Dexter Season 5 Trailer (Comic Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUbCMbW-BRE&feature=player_embedded#ws)
The premiere is just around the corner! I have been anticipating this since the finale. It's been a long nine months.
I WANT THE NEW SEASON
They usually "leak" the first episode. Wonder where it is...
I just got finished watching the season premiere. I had my concerns about this season being a bit lackluster from last season, just because last season was so amazing. After watching the first episode, I have a lot of confidence in where this road is leading to. I also think this season is going to give Deb's character a lot more dimension, which has been long overdue. Although I wasn't really all that fond of Rita, the episode was still depressing because she has been on the show since the beginning. I can't wait to see how the rest of the season pans out.
Yeah it was probably the best premiere episode yet. I mean it didn't really bring any surprises but it set up the season and wisely spent the time focusing on how Dexter truly felt about Rita. The previews for this season suggest that Dexter has become much more human while still having the desire to kill. It should be interesting to see how that works out.
And the relationship between Deb and Dexter has long been the most interesting. A lot of people don't like her but I really do and it's about time she finds out what Dexter really is.
It was ok.
I think one of the interesting things about the premiere was where we actually got to see Rita and Dexter from the beginning. I do think he loved Rita, but I don't think he was ever in love with her or could ever be in love for that matter of fact. The contrast between his relationship with Rita, and the relationship he has with his kills are very different. He puts more care and time, and in an odd way, love into his hunt and the final kill. He never spent that much time with his relationship with Rita. However, Rita was the only woman who wasn't frightened by Dexter even though she never knew who he really was.
I do believe Dexter is more human than he thinks he is, and that's mostly Harry's fault for making him feel otherwise. Is he completely "human"? That's debatable. He still has a hard time grieving or pretending to grieve in previous seasons. It was apparent in the episode Astor could see right past Dexter, which might play a part later on down the line. "I'm sorry for you loss"? That definitely shows a disconnect. It was apparent Dexter was grieving, but was he grieving over the fact that Rita was murdered, or was he grieving over the fact that he should have killed Trinity the second he got the chance and can never avenge Rita's death?
He's only known his entire life to not have these emotions. I think he truly was grieving. He would have not randomly killed that dude if he was grieving over the fact he should have killed Trinity when he had the chance. For most of the episode he was being the only thing he knew: a cold killer, however, that's not how he actually felt. The flashbacks with their first meeting suggest that Rita was always appreciative of Dexter and cared for and loved him but he was always distracted. He took her for granted as just a cover but he never realized how much he actually cared for her.
Dexter is one of the most interesting characters ever to be on TV. I absolutely love him and what I have enjoyed throughout the seasons is seeing him become more and more human. It was hinted at the end of the last season that Dexter was going to be finished with his killing after Trinity and was finally happy with his life. Obviously it's not the case but I think we will see more human, flawed parts of him. He's going to stop being as cool and calculated. It started last season being distracted with a family.
that fact that he realised he really loved her was really powerfull. great season opener
this show is so awesome it's ridiculous. all other shows bow down
not as good as I wanted it to be
i had such high expectations that i assumed i would be disappointed (much as i was with the third season) but i really loved the premiere. i'm thinking it's going to be another good one.
Quote from: defskull on Sep 29, 2010, 04:46 AM
He's only known his entire life to not have these emotions. I think he truly was grieving. He would have not randomly killed that dude if he was grieving over the fact he should have killed Trinity when he had the chance. For most of the episode he was being the only thing he knew: a cold killer, however, that's not how he actually felt. The flashbacks with their first meeting suggest that Rita was always appreciative of Dexter and cared for and loved him but he was always distracted. He took her for granted as just a cover but he never realized how much he actually cared for her.
I'm not completely convinced he killed that man out of his grief for Rita-- I still believe a lot of what Dexter is feeling is because of Trinity and how he one-up'd Dexter. He did love Rita, and I'm sure a small part of his grief stems from Rita's death, but I think a bigger chunk of it has to do with Trinity. The reason Dexter kills is to help the innocent who were killed get justice out of their murders. Dexter was able to get justice for all but one of the victims of Trinity, the most important victim -- Rita. The man he murdered was his way of getting control back from Trinity (obviously, it didn't really do much), and the breakdown he had afterward is guilt from not being able to protect Rita, but I don't really see Dexter grieving over the murder of Rita at that point. His "outburst" was mainly about the cause, not the effect. Dexter is still a calculating murderer, as well as a perfectionist. For the rest of his life, Trinity is going to be the one that got away and I think that's what's mainly eating Dexter at this point.
In a weird way, I like him as a calculating, cold, logical killer. It's interesting to see Dexter become a little more in touch with his emotions and impulsive like the rest of the human race, but at the same time it's odd. Dexter being naturally calculating and logical is a big turn on for me.
I think you mentioned how Dexter and Deb's relationship is one of the more interesting things about the show, and I have to agree with you. I think the reason why people aren't too fond of Deb is because her character has been flat in past seasons. We definitely see her grow a little bit when Lundy is murdered, but it becomes flat again up to the season's end. It's a shame too, because Jennifer Carpenter is a great actress and could handle a multi dimensional character. One of the things I love about Deb is what Dexter said in the very first episode: she has a big heart, but is just afraid to show it. Deb and Dexter are a lot alike and one of the similarities they have is they are both out of touch with their true emotions. Deb is more in touch with how she feels than Dexter but not by much. It's not a shock, either since both were raised by Harry. This season is going to definitely open Deb up more, which I've been waiting for since the first season. Up to this point, she's had a wall built around her. With Deb taking over as mom, we'll get to see more of her sensitive side.
This show is finally picking up. I don't know if anyone else has been keeping up with it but after being slow for half the season it is finally going somewhere. And where it is going looks very promising. Side note: I love Julia Stiles.
I have to admit, I think I love Julia Stiles, too. I think she's great as Lumen. At times I feel like slapping her because she just keeps getting Dexter into some sticky situations, but then you're reminded why she is the way she is, and you're okay with it. I think her relationship with Dexter is sweet, and this season is definitely picking up steam. I'm very intrigued with where it's going.
Unfortunately there are only 5 episodes left. I'm a little annoyed it took this long to get things started. Too much time was spent on Santa Muerta murders and Batista and La Guerta. It seems like the Santa Muerta plot line is only there to keep the rest of the police officers busy right now. It's rather unfortunate. I think last season suffered from the same mistake of having too much filler with a really good main story line.
I really don't like that one rookie cop. There's something off about her, and I do feel as if she is a big part of the filler you mentioned. I'm hoping there will be something more to the Santa Muerta case other than what's already been explained, because it's just not nearly as interesting as Lumen and Dexter's relationship. I'm also not feeling this plot line with Batista and LaGuerta. Yeah, getting married was interesting but now we're delving into their marriage? I find myself rolling my eyes whenever their marriage is mentioned.
Besides Lumen and Dexter's arc, the plot line with Quinn is beginning to get juicier. I find myself going back and forth between hating him, and slightly liking him. I'm just wondering what's going to happen to him at the end of the season. Maybe another Doakes situation?
I hate Quinn and his sausage fingers, but getting RoboCop to do his dirty work for him is great. And LaGuerta and Batista have been useless for two seasons now. I miss the days when Batista was the down-on-his-luck, likable cop and LaGuerta was the bitchy boss. So much simpler then. Attempting to give them more than that is just zzzzzz
I hated this episode.
a) Lumen - what the fuck. I am so disappointed in the actress and the character. And it's like what the fuck - she's either completely bonkers, or she's just "badly written", because I cannot see any kind of character (logically and realistically) going through a trauma and then smiling after half an hour because Dexter says "we" and then the whole hug scene. I thought I'd kick the screen, seriously. The character is making me lose complete interest in the show. Complete interest.
b) Batista and the latin bitch is just annoying. I don't want to see them on the show anymore - completely pointless.
c) I am getting tired or all-strong latin feeling on the show. They have to change something about it.
d) the show lost any kind of realistic logic.
At least Dexter's sister is one of the best characters and it is fairly enjoyable to see her.
Quote from: lostpilot on Nov 13, 2010, 08:36 PM
I hated this episode.
a) Lumen - what the fuck. I am so disappointed in the actress and the character. And it's like what the fuck - she's either completely bonkers, or she's just "badly written", because I cannot see any kind of character (logically and realistically) going through a trauma and then smiling after half an hour because Dexter says "we" and then the whole hug scene. I thought I'd kick the screen, seriously. The character is making me lose complete interest in the show. Complete interest.
b) Batista and the latin bitch is just annoying. I don't want to see them on the show anymore - completely pointless.
c) I am getting tired or all-strong latin feeling on the show. They have to change something about it.
d) the show lost any kind of realistic logic.
At least Dexter's sister is one of the best characters and it is fairly enjoyable to see her.
this
dexter is my favorite show but god... i fucking HATE lumen more than any other character ever on this show. yes, more than lila, and more than miguel.
It's beginning to look lonely for me over here on Team Lumen.
Lumen is Dexter's foil, which I think blends perfectly well this season after Rita's death. Dexter is a cold blooded killer, but he's beginning to show a human side to him, and Lumen is definitely bringing it out. Don't get me wrong, I love rational, logical Dexter Morgan, but it's even more interesting when he shows his human side. There are times when Lumen goes bat shit and you're trying to figure out what is going on in that brain of hers, but she's so busted and broken down that it makes sense why she goes bat shit. I do think Julia Stiles is doing a great job portraying Lumen, and for me, is making her a rather likable character. She's in a lot of pain, and is beyond damaged, which makes her sympathetic. Her interactions with Dexter is where her character really shines--she's not so much of an ingenue, as much as a companion for Dexter. I'll be gravely disappointed if the relationship goes romantic. They have a certain understanding with one another, and it works. It shouldn't evolve more than that.
Whatever I like Lumen. If it goes romantic I'll be okay. If it goes anywhere I'm happy.
but she's just such a poorly written, incompetent character who does NOTHING but screw up and cause more problems for dexter. i don't know why he likes her so much. also julia styles is a god awful actress and her voice is just beyond unbearable. sorry but i've never hated a character so much.
The way I see it, Dexter would have turned out to be Lumen had he not gotten his special training from Harry, which is what I find intriguing. Her screw ups kind of turn Dexter into this big brother figure, and luckily Dexter is pretty cunning to get himself out of the situations Lumen puts him in. If Lumen got the right training, and if Dexter were willing to train her, she could do well on her own. According to Dexter, she already has the killer instinct. She just needs to fine tune herself, and think more logically than impulsively.
Whatever I like Lumen. I like Julia Stiles too. Maybe that gives me some bias. I'd be disappointed if she goes crazy in a way similar to Miguel where she starts wanting to kill random people but they don't seem to be suggesting that at all.
I really hope that Lumen does become Dexter's partner in crime and it stays that way. I'm curious as to what Dexter will think of being able to be completely open with someone. The conversation Deb had with Dexter about not feeling anything after killing that man was very very interesting. With this season coming to an end soon, I would not mind this season ending on a cliffhanger and having next season be the last season. It doesn't seem like there is enough time to wrap up everything that is happening this season and I feel like they are just teasing the eventual moment when Deb finds out about Dexter's life.
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 14, 2010, 02:53 AM
I'll be gravely disappointed if the relationship goes romantic. They have a certain understanding with one another, and it works. It shouldn't evolve more than that.
=/ Such a bummer, too since last night's episode was great right up to the end.
Well come on. It HAD to go romantic. The inner monologue of Dexter after they had sex is the reason why it went romantic. "But with Lumen I'm something different. In her eyes, I'm not a monster at all." Isn't this what we all want from someone? We want someone where we can reveal all of ourselves and the other person still doesn't see the monster. With Dexter though, that monster happens to be his need to kill.
I am surprised with the timing of their first sexual encounter though. I mean yeah after her first kill seems right, but this is right after the episode Astor and Deb accuse Dexter of having a new girlfriend so soon. So last episode Dexter denies it like crazy but now has sex with that same person? Odd choice.
julia styles is a completely incomeptant actress. she must have never learned how to convincingly deliver dialogue. dexter is my all time favorite show and i'm extremely passionate about it but if her character doesn't die or somehow conclude within the show by the end of the season,i will no longer be watching. this season is a HUGE letdown and only because of her. i just can't get past it. john lithgow was an amazing guest star and this is what i'm treated to this season? no thanks show time. hell, i'll even take jimmy smits back, and we all know how god awful that was. i'm into the story and everything but she is just unbearable, and her wretched man voice makes me cringe. she kills any line written for her. and also, what the fuck dexter? your wife has been dead for what? 6 months tops? i mean, the fuck man? i never, ever, EVER thought i'd say this but... i miss rita. everyone i know who watches this show agrees with me that she is just awful. i wish they would have murdered her. why couldn't dexter just leave boyd fowler alone and keep this talentless piece of shit "actress" (though it sounds like she just read her lines right before they started rolling, so i don't know if i'd call whatever she does acting) off my tv.
I'm definitely biased because I kind of have a Julia Stiles crush, but I agree. Her acting has been pretty bad at times. I try my best to look the other way and pretend it isn't happening. And I'm kind of tired of the 3rd season being shat on so much. It really isn't that bad.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 01, 2010, 06:29 AM
I'm definitely biased because I kind of have a Julia Stiles crush, but I agree. Her acting has been pretty bad at times. I try my best to look the other way and pretend it isn't happening. And I'm kind of tired of the 3rd season being shat on so much. It really isn't that bad.
the third season was just so anticlimactic compared to the other seasons. i still enjoy it but i'm going to watch 1, 2 or 4 over it any day because they're all so epic. it's sad because this seasons story has been really not that bad (especially since the revelations about the group and the revelations that are on the horizon for the next couple episodes) but she is just killing it for me. if they had a different actress (preferably a relative unknown) i'd be all over this season. she's just so corny sometimes and makes it more laughable than dramatic. dexter can do so much better.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 01, 2010, 02:35 AM
Well come on. It HAD to go romantic. The inner monologue of Dexter after they had sex is the reason why it went romantic. "But with Lumen I'm something different. In her eyes, I'm not a monster at all." Isn't this what we all want from someone? We want someone where we can reveal all of ourselves and the other person still doesn't see the monster. With Dexter though, that monster happens to be his need to kill.
I am surprised with the timing of their first sexual encounter though. I mean yeah after her first kill seems right, but this is right after the episode Astor and Deb accuse Dexter of having a new girlfriend so soon. So last episode Dexter denies it like crazy but now has sex with that same person? Odd choice.
Just because they bang doesn't mean they are dating.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 01, 2010, 02:35 AM
Well come on. It HAD to go romantic. The inner monologue of Dexter after they had sex is the reason why it went romantic. "But with Lumen I'm something different. In her eyes, I'm not a monster at all." Isn't this what we all want from someone? We want someone where we can reveal all of ourselves and the other person still doesn't see the monster. With Dexter though, that monster happens to be his need to kill.
I am surprised with the timing of their first sexual encounter though. I mean yeah after her first kill seems right, but this is right after the episode Astor and Deb accuse Dexter of having a new girlfriend so soon. So last episode Dexter denies it like crazy but now has sex with that same person? Odd choice.
I must be horrible at reading signs, because for a while it felt like a brother/sister or mentor type of relationship with a deeper connection. Then this past episode it just gets randomly romantic. I enjoy having Lumen on the show, but this romance between her and Dexter just feels really wrong. You can still have a deep connection without banging one another. I wish writers wouldn't rely on sex so much to get a point like that across. It's easy to make characters connected with one another once they have sex. It's harder to display a deeper connection when sex isn't apart of the relationship, and I think they could have been more creative.
I agree with sing blue silver about Rita. She hasn't been dead that long, and I'm not sure where in the time line the Dexter universe is, but either way it's kind of tacky of Dexter. If this were a one time bang, then it would be somewhat understandable. It's apparent that Lumen means a lot more to him than just a one-night stand. If anything, I was hoping Dexter would do something with the nanny. =/ Then again, I'm being biased because I love Maria Kennedy Doyle from
The Tudors.
Quote from: your sister gets me hard on Dec 01, 2010, 10:28 PM
Just because they bang doesn't mean they are dating.
You bring up a good point. Granted, I didn't want their relationship to get romantic but the show may be scraping on another theme--sex ruins everything. Lumen has been raped and tortured. Yes, she had sex with Dexter but is she emotionally and mentally ready for a relationship? Has sex with Dexter changed her in a different way? Is Dexter ready for something so soon after Rita's death? Sex doesn't automatically equal a relationship, which is a mistake a lot of people, especially women, make. I'm curious to find out what's going to happen next..
Dexter and Deb have the brother/sister relationship already. And that one is finally picking up steam. I love how they're slowly showing that Deb has a vigilante mindset suggesting that if/when she finds out about Dexter she'll be okay with it.
what a letdown of a finale. i'm seriously bummed at how unimpressive it was.
i agree there, i think they should have let deb find out about dexter at least. if not have lumen knocked off.
It seems like for the most part people are pretty split on the matter. I loved it and it brings up some interesting venues for next season which I think MUST be the last, other wise it's going to be strung out bullshit.
I didn't really expect the finale to be as great as last year's, but for a finale it did what it was supposed to do--tie up lose ends. I felt as if the ending was a little too sugary for me--Dexter's last conversation with Lumen, Dexter's conversation with Astor, Dexter helping Quinn out. All of this seemed a little out of character for Dexter, especially the boat scene with Lumen. Dexter was glowing, and it's because of another woman. He didn't even have that expression with Rita!
Hopefully next season is the last, otherwise we'll have another Weeds on our hands. I know the Golden Globes don't mean shit, but is anyone just a little insulted that Julia Stiles got a nomination? Don't get me wrong, I liked Julia as Lumen but was it award worthy?
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Dec 16, 2010, 04:42 AM
I didn't really expect the finale to be as great as last year's, but for a finale it did what it was supposed to do--tie up lose ends. I felt as if the ending was a little too sugary for me--Dexter's last conversation with Lumen, Dexter's conversation with Astor, Dexter helping Quinn out. All of this seemed a little out of character for Dexter, especially the boat scene with Lumen. Dexter was glowing, and it's because of another woman. He didn't even have that expression with Rita!
Hopefully next season is the last, otherwise we'll have another Weeds on our hands. I know the Golden Globes don't mean shit, but is anyone just a little insulted that Julia Stiles got a nomination? Don't get me wrong, I liked Julia as Lumen but was it award worthy?
jesus fucking christ.... just.... what the fuck. she is hands down the worst "actress" i've ever seen. no exageration.
It seemed as these nominations were either done at the last minute or they really had a hard time finding award worthy performances. Then again, Golden Globe nominations are always rather sucky, they just seemed to suck even more than usual this year.
Red got nominated for best musica/comedy. I saw that movie and it was incredibly bland. It had a great cast and nothing to do with it. When a mediocre Bruce Willis action vehicle gets nominated for best musical/comedy of the year, that's when you stop giving a shit about the Golden Globes.
Haha, no shit! My brother and I were trying to remember some great comedies that came out this year and there were none. I guess the Golden Globes had to settle on Red. =/
Scott Pilgrim was such a better movie and had more laughs. Just saying.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 22, 2010, 04:29 AM
Scott Pilgrim was such a better movie and had more laughs. Just saying.
i gave scott pilgrim a serious chance and i thought i'd enjoy it being the comic book nerd i am. while the cinematography was really beautiful, unique and interesting in a lot of parts i just couldn't hang with it. the writing and plot were overall VERY weak and it just relied on it's kookiness and interesting look to pander to the hipster crowd. also the acting in some spots was just terrible with the music being even worse. it's a contender with juno in my books for worst original music in a film. i'd really like to see michael cera either play a new character or just stop making movies. i haven't read the books because it's not my kind of thing to begin with but overall the writing was just awful in the film. most times i found the characters more irritating than endearing and it really took away from it for me. maybe i just don't relate to my generation at all anymore. it's definitely far and above red but i wouldn't give either a second watch.
anyway that was a way off topic post. new season of dexter sucked, really hard for me to say but it did. shitty underdeveloped villain and a horrible actress in a leading role mixed with a whole lot of abandoning story lines and a messy finale filled with just sweeping shit under the rug made for one of the worst seasons yet.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 23, 2010, 02:59 PM
Quote from: defskull on Dec 22, 2010, 04:29 AM
Scott Pilgrim was such a better movie and had more laughs. Just saying.
i gave scott pilgrim a serious chance and i thought i'd enjoy it being the comic book nerd i am. while the cinematography was really beautiful, unique and interesting in a lot of parts i just couldn't hang with it. the writing and plot were overall VERY weak and it just relied on it's kookiness and interesting look to pander to the hipster crowd. also the acting in some spots was just terrible with the music being even worse. it's a contender with juno in my books for worst original music in a film. i'd really like to see michael cera either play a new character or just stop making movies. i haven't read the books because it's not my kind of thing to begin with but overall the writing was just awful in the film. most times i found the characters more irritating than endearing and it really took away from it for me. maybe i just don't relate to my generation at all anymore. it's definitely far and above red but i wouldn't give either a second watch.
anyway that was a way off topic post. new season of dexter sucked, really hard for me to say but it did. shitty underdeveloped villain and a horrible actress in a leading role mixed with a whole lot of abandoning story lines and a messy finale filled with just sweeping shit under the rug made for one of the worst seasons yet.
I haven't seen
Scott Pilgrim but some of the reasons you stated were reasons why I had no interest in watching it, and my opinion has not changed. Michael Cera can play the socially awkward and nerdy guy well. It worked in his favor when he was in
Arrested Development and
Superbad. However, he's a one trick pony. I hope his presence doesn't taint the AD film.
I think this season of
Dexter was rather bland, but the third season still ranks as the worst season on my list. I actually liked Julia Stiles, but I absolutely cannot stand Jimmy Smits. He is just horrid.
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Dec 23, 2010, 10:07 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 23, 2010, 02:59 PM
Quote from: defskull on Dec 22, 2010, 04:29 AM
Scott Pilgrim was such a better movie and had more laughs. Just saying.
i gave scott pilgrim a serious chance and i thought i'd enjoy it being the comic book nerd i am. while the cinematography was really beautiful, unique and interesting in a lot of parts i just couldn't hang with it. the writing and plot were overall VERY weak and it just relied on it's kookiness and interesting look to pander to the hipster crowd. also the acting in some spots was just terrible with the music being even worse. it's a contender with juno in my books for worst original music in a film. i'd really like to see michael cera either play a new character or just stop making movies. i haven't read the books because it's not my kind of thing to begin with but overall the writing was just awful in the film. most times i found the characters more irritating than endearing and it really took away from it for me. maybe i just don't relate to my generation at all anymore. it's definitely far and above red but i wouldn't give either a second watch.
anyway that was a way off topic post. new season of dexter sucked, really hard for me to say but it did. shitty underdeveloped villain and a horrible actress in a leading role mixed with a whole lot of abandoning story lines and a messy finale filled with just sweeping shit under the rug made for one of the worst seasons yet.
I haven't seen Scott Pilgrim but some of the reasons you stated were reasons why I had no interest in watching it, and my opinion has not changed. Michael Cera can play the socially awkward and nerdy guy well. It worked in his favor when he was in Arrested Development and Superbad. However, he's a one trick pony. I hope his presence doesn't taint the AD film.
I think this season of Dexter was rather bland, but the third season still ranks as the worst season on my list. I actually liked Julia Stiles, but I absolutely cannot stand Jimmy Smits. He is just horrid.
yeah third season takes the shit cake for sure.
i loved all the seasons. none are even close to being shitty. but the 4th season is the best IMO. trinity
surprised this hasn't been posted....
http://youtu.be/RsvGslI_KcM (http://youtu.be/RsvGslI_KcM)
soooooo.... when's he finally getting caught?
s06ep01 leaked.
I watched it, however the link has since been taken down.
I feel like this season is going into an interesting direction, however I'm a little concerned. It's a strong start but last season also had a strong start and look where that left off. It could be great or it could be mediocre on the verge of bad. I feel like the show is starting to lose some steam. Hopefully I'm proved wrong.
The first episode didn't really do anything for me. But it's crazy how much Colin Hanks reminds me of his dad!
I thought the first episode was great. maybe it's just because last season was such a huge disappointment but i'm optimistic. episode one of season 5 was also good and we know how that turned out. fingers crossed!
I could care less about Colin Hanks, but I want more Edward James Almost.
Was anyone else quietly hoping Dexter's sister and/or Quinn would get offed?
I pray every time I see Deb that someone will successfully kill that bitch. Tortured,shot and I think shot again Sunday and bitch is still alive. Uugh....
Deb is awesome, so I don't know what you guys are talking about. Quinn is the major douchebag that should be killed.
I thought season 5 started slow and became really good. So I guess I'm in the minority on that.
I thought season 6 opener was cheesy. It just seemed all too typical.
Intro of new main baddy (including a terrible performance by Collin Hanks)? Check
Intro to theme of season that Dexter must deal with? Check
Dexter wanting to kill someone that will consume a great deal of the episode but mean nothing at all? Check
Time spent on subplots and characters that I think literally no fan cares about? Check.
I usually like the humorous parts of Dexter but this first episode seemed forced. I'm still optimistic but it's not off to the best start.
Plus there is Mos Def to look forward to.
forgot about Mos Def, that'll be good.
Quote from: defskull on Oct 07, 2011, 03:22 AM
Time spent on subplots and characters that I think literally no fan cares about? Check.
This has been my complaint for awhile. It's why it can never be a top tier show for me. It's also the reason I wish Deb and Quinn would GTFO. I really don't give a shit about any of the side characters on Dexter.
Structurally speaking, without character subplots the show would be boring. Following Dexter the whole time? Eh, I love his character but I really don't want to see him on the screen the whole time. I'm okay with side character subplots just so as long as they're interesting characters. I hear that in the novels LaGuerta was killed in the first book and I wish the show stayed true to the book in that regard. I seriously cannot stand her. She's not sympathetic and she sure as hell is not likable. Deb HAS to stay, though. Dexter's biggest fear is having Deb find out who he truly is and if you take Deb out of the equation then what is Dexter's true motivations besides remaining normal? The show would definitely go down the tubes and I think right now Dexter fans are just waiting for the day Deb finds out his dirty secret.
The big problem is there aren't enough likable characters on this show which makes any character subplot annoying and tedious. Besides Dexter and Deb, the only likable people on there are Batiste and Masuka and they barely get any screen time.
I must concur. Ive thoroughly enjoyed Dexter, but if theres any any sense then this season will be the last. It was a good idea to have someone get in on the secret, but overall it didnt even get close to the heady heights of seasons 2 and 4. They made a big mistake taking out (at least on the surface) of Dexter getting discovered at the end of season 5. There should have been a heavy leaning towards someone (preferably Deb) having a serious reason to take on the baton carried throughout the season by Quinn, if not he himself. As an avid fan of Breaking Bad, theres a lot to be said about a feeling of a series recognising a natural end rather than eeking it out until the broadcasting channel deciding enoughs enough. Michael C Hall is a guy I definitely want to see in other guises anyway - time for something fresh.
Nothing wrong with having subplots/characters, it's just that lot of them are boring. Their stories take multiple episodes and don't add anything to the characters or the main story. It's basically filler. More interesting cast would help the show.
This show has just gotten interesting again.
Definitely. First time since season 4 I'm actually anticipating seeing what's going to happen next.
Um, anyone else think that the show is starting to become a lost cause? Especially after that horrible atrocity in the last episode? I can't believe they're making another two seasons of this show. I can't believe I'm saying this, but this show needs to be put of its misery. Like yesterday.
Nope, I still love it and have been enjoying season 6 a lot.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the Internet I doubt I would've seen the Travis/Gellar twist coming. I'm just glad it was the season finale twist.
I think something big is going to happen. Something's definitely brewing..Louis, the intern. Him having the ITK's hand in his apartment was interesting. He also seems weirdly fascinated with Dexter.
season six is certainly making up for the awfulness of season five as far as i'm concerned. loving every minute.
To call any season of Dexter "awful" is a hyperbole.
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 30, 2011, 10:01 PM
Um, anyone else think that the show is starting to become a lost cause? Especially after that horrible atrocity in the last episode? I can't believe they're making another two seasons of this show. I can't believe I'm saying this, but this show needs to be put of its misery. Like yesterday.
I've been saying this for awhile, so I'm with ya. This twist was an interesting ploy, I'm not going to say I knew it the whole time, but since the first episode I've been suspicious of Geller's appearances. It's still pretty much a rip-off of Fight Club and Sixth Sense, though. Theis better be right.... there better be something big at stake soon for Dex or Deb.
Either way the series shouldn't be going 8 seasons. We all know the series peaked at season 4. Why continue it for so long when it started to get stale immediately after the 4th season? It's just getting to be common sense shit now. How does a serial killer who sabotages homicide investigations not get caught yet? Deb is supposed to be a great detective, but how is she not suspicious of all of Dexter's actions?
The end of season 5 was so awesome with Deb almost finding out. I feel like they pissed away a perfect opportunity to have this season focus on her maybe investigating more into who killed those guys.
Anyway, season 6 has been fucking terrible. The episode where Brian comes back and Dexter goes to Nebraska was incredibly bad. I seriously expected the end of the episode to be Dexter waking up from a dream. DERRRRRRP lets pick my dad up on the side of the road. It's metaphors guyssss. Stupid.
Also, I def did not see the twist coming but it's forced. Terribly forced. I'm pretty sure earlier in the episode Dexter mentions seeing Gellar go into the college. Maybe I'm wrong. But the twist seems very lame.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 01, 2011, 03:53 AM
I'm pretty sure earlier in the episode Dexter mentions seeing Gellar go into the college.
That's Travis who says that...when he's sitting in the car, outside the campus, with Dexter.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Dec 01, 2011, 01:53 AM
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Nov 30, 2011, 10:01 PM
Um, anyone else think that the show is starting to become a lost cause? Especially after that horrible atrocity in the last episode? I can't believe they're making another two seasons of this show. I can't believe I'm saying this, but this show needs to be put of its misery. Like yesterday.
I've been saying this for awhile, so I'm with ya. This twist was an interesting ploy, I'm not going to say I knew it the whole time, but since the first episode I've been suspicious of Geller's appearances. It's still pretty much a rip-off of Fight Club and Sixth Sense, though. Theis better be right.... there better be something big at stake soon for Dex or Deb.
Either way the series shouldn't be going 8 seasons. We all know the series peaked at season 4. Why continue it for so long when it started to get stale immediately after the 4th season? It's just getting to be common sense shit now. How does a serial killer who sabotages homicide investigations not get caught yet? Deb is supposed to be a great detective, but how is she not suspicious of all of Dexter's actions?
It feels like Deb gets so close to finding out, then she takes two steps back. It feels like the writers are putting her through this awkward dance that is just going to be spaced out for another two years. It's aggravating and very stupid.
The "twist" seemed like something the writers pulled out of their ass in the last minute, a grasping for straws type of moment. I saw an interview with one of the show runners, and it felt like he was bullshitting the explanation as to why Gellar was actually Travis' dark passenger. I wasn't buying it, and I'm still not buying it.
I'm still going to continue to watch this show though. I've devoted six seasons to this show, I need to see how it ends. I'd rather see it end sooner rather than later.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 01, 2011, 03:53 AM
The end of season 5 was so awesome with Deb almost finding out. I feel like they pissed away a perfect opportunity to have this season focus on her maybe investigating more into who killed those guys.
Anyway, season 6 has been fucking terrible. The episode where Brian comes back and Dexter goes to Nebraska was incredibly bad. I seriously expected the end of the episode to be Dexter waking up from a dream. DERRRRRRP lets pick my dad up on the side of the road. It's metaphors guyssss. Stupid.
You bring up a good point. Especially since Deb is now Lieutenant, it would have been a great subplot creating more tension between Dex and Deb had she continued investigating those murders.
I was expecting so much more from Brian coming back. Another great opportunity pissed away. It wasn't gratifying, and seemed pointless, but I guess we're going to have to wait and see if his appearance affects the season finale. I just think it was the writer's attempt to breathe life back into the show.
Quote from: theis on Dec 01, 2011, 09:10 AM
Quote from: defskull on Dec 01, 2011, 03:53 AM
I'm pretty sure earlier in the episode Dexter mentions seeing Gellar go into the college.
That's Travis who says that...when he's sitting in the car, outside the campus, with Dexter.
Still, Dexter looked and saw someone as well. Dexter also knew what Gellar looked like. So....did he randomly fuck up?
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Dec 01, 2011, 10:51 PM
I'm still going to continue to watch this show though. I've devoted six seasons to this show, I need to see how it ends. I'd rather see it end sooner rather than later.
Exactly. Now I know how those people who grew to dislike Lost felt.
Lame season and then a cliffhanger like that? So gay.
I dug it, but goddamn, I wanna know what happens next...NOW!
Quote from: poofing acid on Dec 19, 2011, 05:24 AM
Lame season and then a cliffhanger like that? So gay.
Agreed.
I thought the writers were joking about making a Deb/Dex romantic plot line. I guess I was wrong. The last minute was the show's saving grace. Now that Deb knows, how are the next two seasons going to play out?
Yeah I'm thankful they had her finally find out about him. Obviously she'll cover it up, but still, at least the storyline has been advanced.
Of course the worst season of the show would have Deb find out the worst way possible. Fucking stupid. Having Deb randomly want Dexter's dick as the reason for her not turning him in is fucking stupid. It was much more natural last season where they showed her figuring out someone was taking out the rapists.
DURP DURP. I'm Lieutenant Deborah Morgan and my brother just mentioned that he randomly fell off his boat in the middle of sea so when I see that that the Big Bad set ablaze a ring of fire in a body of water with someone in the middle, I of course don't think at all that it was my brother. Nooope. Instead I think about how much I want to fuck him.
Pathetic.And yet, because they finally moved the plot forward I'll watch next season.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 20, 2011, 06:08 AM
Pathetic.And yet, because they finally moved the plot forward I'll watch next season.
And that is the really aggravating part about all of this. It was one of the worst seasons, if not the worst season yet I'll be tuning in next September.
I think the Deb/Dex romance plot line made this show officially jump the shark. I still can't believe the writers even thought that was a remotely good idea.
http://youtu.be/2NzpnjVmuCA (http://youtu.be/2NzpnjVmuCA)
To anyone who still watches this show. I think this could be an interesting season, but it could also go bad. Bright spot: They use Deftones' "Change (In The House of Flies)".
I think it looks awesome.
Kind of intriguing, definitely gonna still give it a DL. Hopefully La Guerta will finally get it this season...
By the way it starts up the same night as Homeland, my favorite new show from 2011.
There's also a short clip from the season premiere floating around the internets. It looks fucking terrible.
I think they're going to handle Deb knowing the same way they've handled the last few seasons. Very messy at first and then slowly stumble to a halfway decent ending.
If you're talking about the moment right after Deb sees Dexter stab Travis, then yeah. That was all kinds of terrible. I think it is really going to depend on how the writers want to work this season. I think I'm trying to be optimistic about this season because it's a story line the fans have been waiting for since day one. It's a great story line, very juicy but if the writers decide to throw it away (Which judging from the last two seasons is a strong possibility) I'm going to be angry and disappointed. They have quite a mess to fix from last season.
2 Minute Sneak Peek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzzwNUBc2Z0#ws)
The trailer suggests that this is going to be drawn the fuck out. I'm guessing Deb finally figures out at the end of the season that she finds out he is the Bay Harbor Butcher.
Deb should have found out it was Dexter killing the rapists in season 5 and have season 6 be the finale. It made perfect sense. That entire fucking season she goes on and on about how she likes these vigilantes.
If she found out it was Dexter, she probably wouldn't be too upset. I could go on forever about how much opportunity they've squandered.
Alright that was a pretty well done first episode that has me absolutely hooked for this season. I haven't felt this way about Dexter for awhile so bravo to them.
Yeah, that two minute sneak peek of the season didn't really grasp the structure of the first episode at all. I was pleasantly surprised to actually get a good episode of Dexter. My only complaint is that La Guerta didn't get shot. She's long overdue in that department.
Goddamnit now you guys are getting my hopes up. I gotta go DL it.
I want Deb offed...so tired of her.
I will admit I found Deb's incessant question asking after she found out Dexter killed Travis was very annoying, but I have a soft spot for Deb. I like her and her potty mouth.
I've been noticing a trend lately of people hating female characters so much they just want them dead, and I'm sure as hell guilty of this as well (i.e Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Dexter, etc.) Is it because the writers are just making female characters annoying and unlikable or is it something else? I feel like I could write an essay about this.
Female characters are just horribly written, unlikeable morons in many drama series these days. It's really only a trend of the last 5 years or so but yes, I've noticed this myself and it's rather annoying.
Surprisingly great episode.
Didn't think Deb would find all of Dexter's shit so soon. That definitely caught me off guard.
Quote from: theis on Oct 01, 2012, 09:25 PM
Didn't think Deb would find all of Dexter's shit so soon. That definitely caught me off guard.
Season 7 is "so soon"? :-D
SERIOUSLY? :-D
Haha, I meant so soon in the season. I thought they'd drag it out.
I thought they would, too. I'm glad they didn't.
Quote from: devilinside on Oct 01, 2012, 06:47 PM
I want Deb offed...so tired of her.
Her and dexter need to get it on first
Gross.
Any predictions for the last season coming up?
Damn good season so far.
Yes it is pretty good.
The serial killer whisperer is awesome
Anyone else starting to feel bad for Quinn always being a fuck-up?
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Jul 17, 2013, 01:08 PM
Anyone else starting to feel bad for Quinn always being a fuck-up?
Quinn is a very poorly written character = I don't care
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Jul 17, 2013, 01:08 PM
Anyone else starting to feel bad for Quinn always being a fuck-up?
He's become a more sympathetic character for me, but there's also a part of me that agrees with lostpilot. The writers didn't seem to care about him so why should we?
Personally this season has been slow and tedious. I hope it picks up steam soon because I'm bored.
Just finished watching the series finale. I think the ending was satisfying with how much of a disappointment the series has been for the past 4 seasons. The last minute was probably my favorite moment in the past four seasons, which isn't saying a whole lot but I do appreciate how haunting that last minute was. If the show still employed half decent writers, this could have definitely been a knock out of the park.
I'm satisfied that Dexter reaped what he sowed, but there could have been other ways to accomplish this in less amount of time.
I can't say I am satisfied. Sad panda is sad
Yeah, it really wasn't too bad of a finale, even though there were some horrible, bone-headed moments (most recent in my memory is Dex walking out of the hospital with a corpse on a stretcher, and oh hey there's the dock with my boat!). Really kind of wished more people found out about who he really was, like Batista and Quinn.
And if they were going to keep him alive at the end, just give him the happy goddamn ending in Argentina that were leading us to. Fuck this random potential mountain man Dexter spinoff.
It's been a day since I watched it, and after reading many comments and letting it all sink in I realized the reason why I wasn't so disappointed by the finale was because I was expecting the absolute worst. By having that expectation I think I set myself up to be okay with whatever ending they pulled out.
I really don't know what the writers were thinking as far as logic goes. As a writer myself, I'm shocked that these people have jobs in the industry and I don't because if getting in the industry is just pulling out shit like this then I should have been hired while I was doing undergrad! As a writer, you have to be aware of all logical plot holes and it seems as if no one bothered to say "Hey, maybe Dexter carrying out a dead body out of the hospital would raise a few eyebrows even if there was a hurricane happening". It's really shameful.
It was a horrible season so any ending that came of it would be unsatisfying, but I think this is the most satisfying ending we were going to get considering the circumstances. I still love the way the last minute was shot. It was very Ingmar Bergman how silent and haunting it was. And if you ignore the pubes on Dexter's face, it was a pretty revelatory moment. Former show runner Clyde Phillps had a much better ending planned out:
QuoteIn the very last scene of the series. Dexter wakes up. And everybody is going to think, 'Oh, it was a dream.' And then the camera pulls back and back and back and then we realize, 'No, it's not a dream.' Dexter's opening his eyes and he's on the execution table at the Florida Penitentiary. They're just starting to administer the drugs and he looks out through the window to the observation gallery.
And in the gallery are all the people that Dexter killed—including the Trinity Killer and the Ice Truck Killer (his brother Rudy), LaGuerta who he was responsible killing, Doakes who he's arguably responsible for, Rita, who he's arguably responsible for, Lila. All the big deaths, and also whoever the weekly episodic kills were. They are all there.
I would have been totally on board with this ending.
Yeah I would have enjoyed the gallery version too.
I don't know if this is just me but it seems that some of the tv shows these days don't apply the true effect of transformation and cause-and-effect cycles. (I was watching new episode of Breaking Bad before Dexter, and the comparison is crazy, Br Ba is absolutely genius while Dexter is amateur-level writing) I don't feel like Dexter changed enough and got either a satisfying or dissatisfying finale (or CONSEQUENCES) - on one hand Harrison and Hannah (she's evil but I love her) are free to go as his legacy, but he's not there. So one would assume that if Dexter does not get to enjoy the slice of life with them, somewhat logically he should be on the other extreme - caught and put down by the police. But that hasn't happened either - instead he's just.. somewhere in the mountains being a lumberjack. Way to go, writers!
There was absolutely no confrontation between his serial killer persona and the police in the last episode, and I really, really wanted him to be found out or stuck in the typical "loose ends" situation of previous seasons, it's entertaining to watch. It was the ultimate fear of the show to be found out and the writers just completely wasted the script here. Anyway, whole last season was not too good, meh. I don't think this episode really fulfilled it's role as a "closer" for the series. There were some fantastic moments just as Deb died and Dexter remembered how his son was born. But overall not really a good ending, lots of loopholes and wasted potential.
Clyde Phillips did a Reddit AMA and when he was asked what happened to the show after he left, he mentioned how it seemed as if the set-up of Dexter not acting like a human being was thrown out the window and all of a sudden he started to fall in love and have emotions. Phillips said that the writers abandoning the story line that took years to develop was being changed, and with it so did the audience. I think Phillips definitely has a point there. Season 5, when Dexter fell in love with Lumen, it seemed obvious we were not dealing with the same Dexter from season 1. I have been talking about this with Defskull lately and what keeps popping up in conversations is this show used to be about character study. The show became less about the mind of a serial killer and more about a guy living his day to day life and killing was something he did on the side.
With the reign of a new showrunner came the stupid, illogical story lines. Reading the writers' interviews after the show ended is aggravating. It sounds like they're just pulling shit out of their ass in an attempt to cover up their shoddy writing. Looking at Breaking Bad, you can see the writers love the show just as much as the fans. They deliver each week with a better episode. It seems as if the writers on Dexter got cocky and deemed themselves superior and just checked out for the past four years and by the time they got to the final season they just gave up.
The writing on the show just goes to show throwing in stereotypical story lines does not reel in more ratings. If anything, it just annoys the loyal fans and does a disservice to everyone involved with the show. I really wish I wasn't left with a bad taste in my mouth regarding this show. Many people were right; the show should have ended with season 4.
*reads on iPad that Dexter is dead* "Hey Harrison, lets get some ice cream." *fade to black*
Within the last month or so I binge watched Breaking Bad from beginning to catch up. One thing that I initially noticed and enjoyed about the show is how everything has consequences. If he wants to kill someone in that show, he can't just do it. He has to consider how he will get away it. Every single thing he does either needs to be well thought out so nothing bad happens or else there are repercussions.
Juxtaposing that show with Dexter this season has been quite entertaining. You should say that now Dexter is in exile and this is his punishment. But seriously? I thought him going in to stab Saxon was his way of getting his revenge and allowing himself to be caught. It was interesting and I kind of liked the idea. Instead, everyone is like "whoa dexter, obvious self defense bro, but calm down". Really? Dexter got away with everything. He even got away with boating into a hurricane and living.
I will say though that this season had some of the best unintentional comedy I had seen in awhile.
A disappointing finale to a disappointing series. Dexter used to be awesome, many seasons ago. It's had its moments lately, but I started losing more and more interest as the show went on, mainly because of two things: Dexter stopped being a cold-blooded killer and started becoming a normal guy, which pretty much went against the entire point of the show; and the writers became increasingly lazy and used cheap cop-outs and left enormous plot holes all over the place. The scenes where Dex pulls the plug on Deb and then carries her out to the boat, without no one noticing were just the last drop in what had become an ocean. Two other examples from this episode alone: no one got suspicious about Dex leaving a backpack on the airport, even though there's lots of people everywhere; everyone on the bus is both deaf and blind when Hannah poisons Elway. Lame things like this happened all the time over the last few seasons, and it almost got worse towards the end even.
Towards the end where it looked like Dex would kill himself I thought to myself "well, at least they didn't go for a happy-ever-after ending". But what do you know, the last thing we see is Dex still alive and well. I was so hoping this series would end with people finding out who Dex was, and the investigations and legal processes that would ensue. They could still have made him a hero and/or martyr, with the people who knew him sort of understanding and respecting him even if they had to put him in jail. It would have been so much more interesting, realistic and even emotional. This was such a cheap and unimaginative way to end the show. But I'm hardly surprised. I don't think I've ever seen a show go from such awesomeness to such suckiness. Except for maybe That 70's Show.
I thought this was the worst series finale I've ever watched. For Dexter to sit there and say he has to keep Hannah and Harrison safe by staying away...hello Dexter,Hannah is a killer too. I don't know if it's because of all the people he loved dying,but if you're moving on and moving forward,there would be no reason for any harm to come to them. How anyone can abandon their child is beyond me. (thats the mom talking) And I was laughing the whole time Dexter took Deb out of the hospital and just hopped on his boat. I understand there was chaos going on with the storm,but the valet dockside corpse pick-up was retarded. Oh well.
Quote from: Jacob on Sep 24, 2013, 05:49 PM
I was so hoping this series would end with people finding out who Dex was, and the investigations and legal processes that would ensue. They could still have made him a hero and/or martyr, with the people who knew him sort of understanding and respecting him even if they had to put him in jail. It would have been so much more interesting, realistic and even emotional.
I had read on on spoiler site a few weeks back, a lot of the things they mentioned were true to the episode,some were not. The ones that were not were ones I was stoked about possibly being true. One was that Quinn told Dexter he knew all along that he was a killer,but because he loved Deb he left it alone. Another was he helped Dexter,Hannah and Harrison escape and ended up killing Saxon "Dexter" style,and they ended it leading you to believe that Quinn had gotten an itch for killing. And then after the storm,a lot of the bodies washed up that Dexter had dumped,and Batista mentions the Bay Harbor Butcher being back and Quinn tells him that the BHB has left town permanently and it dawns on Batista who Quinn is referring to. Hell,even that ending would have been better.
Playing Devil's Advocate here, I think the ending proved that Dexter couldn't have it all and that if he was going to live a serial killer lifestyle he was going to end up alone. Yeah, he did get away with murder but at the cost of losing everything he loves. Being in exile isn't necessarily getting off with anything, either. He's in his own personal hell now.
But it seemed so obvious he was a killer when he was taped murdering Saxon. I would have been much more satisfied if they found out about Dexter at that point in time and arrested him. That would have been the most satisfying ending in the shittiest season of the series. Alas, we're here. At the end of the day, I'm just glad this series has been put out of its misery.
Absolutely horrible ending. The season sucked too :-\
Not a great ending indeed, with all the loopholes described above...
I really wish they didn't add the last minute, where we see a surviving lumberjack Dexter... Would at least have been less bad if it just ended with him riding out his boat in the hurricane...
Oh well.....
Quote from: devilinside on Sep 24, 2013, 06:59 PM
I had read on on spoiler site a few weeks back, a lot of the things they mentioned were true to the episode,some were not. The ones that were not were ones I was stoked about possibly being true. One was that Quinn told Dexter he knew all along that he was a killer,but because he loved Deb he left it alone. Another was he helped Dexter,Hannah and Harrison escape and ended up killing Saxon "Dexter" style,and they ended it leading you to believe that Quinn had gotten an itch for killing. And then after the storm,a lot of the bodies washed up that Dexter had dumped,and Batista mentions the Bay Harbor Butcher being back and Quinn tells him that the BHB has left town permanently and it dawns on Batista who Quinn is referring to. Hell,even that ending would have been better.
I would have loved some of this to happen.
Also one minor thing about whole series - really, really shitty props. I would always notice a really badly made badge, hat, hospital equipment or something. That's just sloppy because I do believe they had the funds to make it a little more believable.
And all of you are right - the show changed when the writers switched the cold authentic serial killer with just "some regular guy". Remember the first season - the awesome monologues, "tonight's the night", there was magic and mystery.
While no one gives a shit about Dexter anymore, this article explains a little on why the finale sucked so much:
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/10/showtime-wouldnt-let-writers-kill-dexter/ (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/10/showtime-wouldnt-let-writers-kill-dexter/)
tl;dr Showtime didn't want the writers to kill Dexter because of the loyal fan base. I call this bullshit!
After about what seems like 23 years , I finally got done watching all 5 seasons of Six Feet Under ( Michael Hall aka Dexter is in it) .
Wow. It just blew me away.
Everything about that show was just so "real" and just so well acted. I really disliked alot of the main characters and the way they went on about life and how they dealt with certain situations....but I caught myself towards the end accepting them all and seeing the best parts every one of them had to offer.
Must watch series for anyone who hasn't experienced this wonderful show. The writing is awesome (even though it has it's flaws at times) and ends as one of the few shows that makes you feel part of the cast you are watching.
Six Feet Under is just WONDERS. Loved it.
Six Feet Under had the ability to make me cry like a baby. The series finale fucking killed me.
I decided to finally give this show a go instead of rewatching Sopranos or The Wire for the n-th time. A few episodes in, I really like it.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Nov 03, 2013, 02:33 PM
I decided to finally give this show a go instead of rewatching Sopranos or The Wire for the n-th time. A few episodes in, I really like it.
The first four seasons are great. Do yourself a favor and stop watching after season 4.
I'll take that into consideration, thanks.
Six Feet Under was one of my most favoritest shows. When I started watching Dexter I kept waiting for him to come out as gay. And Theis is right,after season 4 it went to crap. Trinity was the best season of the whole series.