Poll
Question:
How do you currently feel about the Tones's upcoming album?
Option 1: Really anxious, I'd do anything in order to hear it fucking NOW
votes: 38
Option 2: Quite optimist, when It hits the net i't'll be in constant rotation for sure
votes: 32
Option 3: No hurry at all.
votes: 25
Option 4: Fuck deftones, bring me some new team sleep shit, chango.
votes: 5
The first deftones album wait for me was the S/t, I was an uninformed kid at that time, I'd check deftones world once in a month or two, but that's it. Then suddenly I went to a record store and saw that the record was actually there since a week oir two. I inmediately bought and went running to my house in order to hear it as quick as I could.
Then, saturday night wrist. Man, that wait was really intense. I think my heart pumped the second I downloaded beware, I was even having some crazy dreams about the new deftones album. Originally I intended to wait until the record release, but I just coulnd't help it and had to download the leak and hear it in its entirety.
Now, for this album, I really think that I won't be all that anxious, at all. I heard the snippets we all heard and some of them are amazing, some not so (Melanie). But I didn't get that feeling, you know? I don't blame the deftones at all, because they have been putting amazing music and they WILL be uptting amazing music, but nonetheless the hurry isn't there anymore. Option 2 for me
Your thoughts?
I'll be excited when we can hear a studio version of a new song, not before.
i dont trust deftones "fans" that wasnt aware of deftones existence til white pony came out... and they got into them through radio friendly songs like change ,digital bath and all that mainstream side of deftones. im really anxious about eros,just as always when it time for a new def disc
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 11, 2009, 11:16 PM
i dont trust deftones "fans" that wasnt aware of deftones existence til white pony came out... and they got into them through radio friendly songs like change ,digital bath and all that mainstream side of deftones. im really anxious about eros,just as always when it time for a new def disc
Actually I got into them through street carp and knife prty, but the "radio friendly" songs you mentioned are great tracks anyway. I don't see how i'd care about who you trust and why, I just asked about how everybody felt about the upcoming tones album, thank you anyway.
I'm stoked
I'll always be excited for new Deftones material. There is nothing quite like hearing one of their songs for the first time.
meh
QuoteI'll always be excited for new Deftones material. There is nothing quite like hearing one of their songs for the first time.
Hell yeah. :D
Its like masturbating for the first time..um...
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 12, 2009, 02:46 AM
I'll always be excited for new Deftones material. There is nothing quite like hearing one of their songs for the first time.
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 12, 2009, 02:46 AM
I'll always be excited for new Deftones material. There is nothing quite like hearing one of their songs for the first time.
i hope the album art is good. Self titled had amazing art.
Quote from: ilovechino69 on Apr 12, 2009, 06:23 AM
i hope the album art is good. Self titled had amazing art.
I agree. I thought the SNW artwork was good too. The publicity photos sucked though. Lifeless. I think the new artwork is gonna be like nothing we expect.
i'll be really stoked if they use chi's bass tracks... or at least alot of them... worst case.. some?? (plz)
all in all... happy for the guys... would love for them to put out a great album... i know they will.. i just want chi included.. wanna hear him on there... you know?
biased? i may be..
one love for chi,
gina
www.oneloveforchi.com (http://www.oneloveforchi.com)
Quote from: oneloveforchi on Apr 12, 2009, 07:17 AM
i'll be really stoked if they use chi's bass tracks... or at least alot of them... worst case.. some?? (plz)
all in all... happy for the guys... would love for them to put out a great album... i know they will.. i just want chi included.. wanna hear him on there... you know?
biased? i may be..
one love for chi,
gina
www.oneloveforchi.com (http://www.oneloveforchi.com)
after all.. this is a deftones page... not everything is about chi, he is 1/5 of the group. he already have his own site and a thread
actually I pretty much don't care.
Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 12, 2009, 09:01 AM
actually I pretty much don't care.
u dont care about the new album? what are u doing here then
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 12, 2009, 09:17 AM
Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 12, 2009, 09:01 AM
actually I pretty much don't care.
u dont care about the new album? what are u doing here then
I mean, it's not like - 'fuck it I don't care', it's more like 'I know it's gonna be good, so I'm not gonna be a drama queen an squeel for six months in a row how much do I want it'.
Yes, I like the Deftones, they're a living classic, but nowadays I have other bands to listen and overhype to.
ok, fine with me :)
Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 12, 2009, 09:22 AM
I'm not gonna be a drama queen an squeel for six months in a row how much do I want it'.
;D
s/t and saturday night wrist have been a let down to me, so i'm not really excited about the new stuff. melanie did it's share to kill off any excitement i had. do not like-y!
s/t was amazing and melanie sounds it will be better than any song on around the fur (in my head anyway ) around the fur song writing was kind of poor, if chino hadent sung on it, it wouldnt be that great. snw sucked ass, made myself aware that deftones releases from that on isnt that secure
Now i'd like to ask you J...
What stuff by the Deftones do you like ?
Even though I consider myself a trained listener of music, it took me a few years to really appreciate S/T for what it is. I guess that is also the advantage of having more records being out after that, so you can listen to the album with some context. Right now, I consider S/T a fantastic record, right under my holy duo White Pony and ATF.
SNW, it's not my favourite, but I am sure I'm going to like it more when the new record comes out. I just started listening to Deftones again this week and it got me really pumped for new material.
As for the quality of the new record, I'd be surprised if it would make everyone happy. I think it's fair to say that White Pony was a undisputed classic that's never going to be overcome by the band. There's only a few bands that really make such a good record once, expecting it to happen twice is ridiculous.
I love Deftones but i've been waiting patiently for Chino to put some good quality time into making a Team Sleep album that would fulfil the potential of the demo leak.
I fucking can't wait.
Self titled took several listens. Saturday night wrist was over produced. Both good albums if you listen to them for what they are, not constantly comparing them to previous works. Im looking forward to this new album. Im excited to see them live again. Deftones are paving the way..
As for me, I've only been into deftones since 2007, ive never seen a album be realsed by them or anything like tht. And im sorta scared tht we might have to wait longer then october, b,c if you remeber from a thread from a while ago it said new deftones winter 2008. in a abe interview he said january, in anoter interview they said spring 2009, and the most recent said october, so i think its gonna be changed again around july or so
i think they need to blog more and keep us fully interested
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 12, 2009, 08:55 AM
Quote from: oneloveforchi on Apr 12, 2009, 07:17 AM
i'll be really stoked if they use chi's bass tracks... or at least alot of them... worst case.. some?? (plz)
all in all... happy for the guys... would love for them to put out a great album... i know they will.. i just want chi included.. wanna hear him on there... you know?
biased? i may be..
one love for chi,
gina
www.oneloveforchi.com (http://www.oneloveforchi.com)
after all.. this is a deftones page... not everything is about chi, he is 1/5 of the group. he already have his own site and a thread
i know not everything is about chi jesus... and the question was "How do YOU currently feel about the Tones's upcoming album?" and i voiced my opinion.. which my answer happened to involve chi...
the other thread for chi is prayers and updates and the site is for fundraising.. was the f'ing question about that? no...
gina
I'm more like 'Anxiously waiting confirmation that it isn't another SNW'. In that regard, the wait is even worse for me.
Its funny how things have changed, no matter how bad other bands fucked up, dithered, dliuted or sold out, I always felt like I at least had the Deftones to lean on. SNW was like breaking my fucking hymen or something. That last pillar fell.
Its basically 'make or break' time for me.
Quote from: Caín on Apr 12, 2009, 09:40 AM
s/t and saturday night wrist have been a let down to me, so i'm not really excited about the new stuff. melanie did it's share to kill off any excitement i had. do not like-y!
s/t was great man
S/t is so underrated...
I know it takes some listenings but once you're really into the songs, you can't do anything else than loving these.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 12, 2009, 06:56 PM
S/t is so underrated...
x2
s/t is my favourite Deftones album. By all means.
Quote from: wither-I on Apr 12, 2009, 04:57 PM
i think they need to blog more and keep us fully interested
word. they are not...giving a shit about this. they were...and stopped. We really don´t know,m how things are. always the same mistakes.
Deftones = shitty fan service
Quote from: Moz on Apr 12, 2009, 11:56 AM
Even though I consider myself a trained listener of music, it took me a few years to really appreciate S/T for what it is. I guess that is also the advantage of having more records being out after that, so you can listen to the album with some context. Right now, I consider S/T a fantastic record, right under my holy duo White Pony and ATF.
SNW, it's not my favourite, but I am sure I'm going to like it more when the new record comes out. I just started listening to Deftones again this week and it got me really pumped for new material.
As for the quality of the new record, I'd be surprised if it would make everyone happy. I think it's fair to say that White Pony was a undisputed classic that's never going to be overcome by the band. There's only a few bands that really make such a good record once, expecting it to happen twice is ridiculous.
I think exactly like you. It took me several months to like S/T and now I love it. And yeah it'd be cool to have another amazing album like WP but yes it's gonna be hard that happens twice, so we'll see, time will tell.
Quote from: deftonekid on Apr 12, 2009, 08:17 PM
It took me several months to like S/T and now I love it.
i really dont get this "it takes months of listenings" crap,.. when i first heard the entire s/t album my jaw dropped to the floor... and at the same time i got worried... i thought "no, this is so fucking good i cant believe it, now there gonna be BIG for REAL and be all over the place" ....but that didnt happen. it got good reviews but then i saw fan sites dissing it and i was like "huh..? its fucking better than white pony ffs!"
Like a girl said while being interviewed:
" Deftones are not music for radios, because people are not ready to like or even understand their music. "
s/t is also my fav Deftones album. I can still jam that album anytime!!!
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 12, 2009, 08:32 PM
i really dont get this "it takes months of listenings" crap,.. when i first heard the entire s/t album my jaw dropped to the floor... and at the same time i got worried... i thought "no, this is so fucking good i cant believe it, now there gonna be BIG for REAL and be all over the place" ....but that didnt happen. it got good reviews but then i saw fan sites dissing it and i was like "huh..? its fucking better than white pony ffs!"
well dude remember they did WP before S/T so after that I expected something similar (I'm not saying I expected a WP 2 or a WP copy) so it was new for some of us to listen a darker side of deftones. So for me it tooks time to get use to that "new" sound, but that's it, we all agree S/T is one of their best made albums.
Yeah I wasn't totally into S/T when it dropped. It did take me a while to get into, to appreciate. I think it's one of their best albums to date, so far.
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
EP OR SINGLE NAO!
no hurry at all. They better not rush it, my expectations are already low.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Apr 13, 2009, 12:36 PM
no hurry at all. They better not rush it, my expectations are already low.
That's pretty much where I stand as well.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 12, 2009, 08:55 AM
after all.. this is a deftones page... not everything is about chi, he is 1/5 of the group. he already have his own site and a thread
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 12, 2009, 09:17 AM
Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 12, 2009, 09:01 AM
actually I pretty much don't care.
u dont care about the new album? what are u doing here then
i begin to like you.....beside deftones you are an angel to me nowadays...
Quote from: Penicks on Apr 12, 2009, 01:04 PM
I fucking can't wait.
i fucking hate waiting
and i fuckin hate deftones
Quote from: Penicks on Apr 12, 2009, 08:09 PM
Deftones = shitty fan service
Real deftones basic.....Thank you man..
i'll be dead when that record relased.. coz :
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3754/deftoneserosxx.jpg)
take a look closer :
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3066/deftoneseros2.jpg)
we r all gonna be dead people...
What the fuck dude. You make no sense. I mean. Jesus fucking ass.
yeah you might have just wasted precious time in your life making that post.
heh "in stores may 2035" ..its funny because its true
Quote from: Penicks on Apr 13, 2009, 03:35 PM
What the fuck dude. You make no sense. I mean. Jesus fucking ass.
no no...he is an angel.....deftones took my 3 years !...fuckin 3 years !...and they want 1 more !...
Quote from: wither-I on Apr 13, 2009, 03:45 PM
yeah you might have just wasted precious time in your life making that post.
dont talk to any photoshop user like that..or ill take your head and god knows where to put..
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 13, 2009, 03:49 PM
heh "in stores may 2035" ..its funny because its true
i love jesus....
You. I. Wow.
hahaha
I think Deftones should give the fans some more info on what they are doing i.e. blog or myspace bulletins. That would get people to really get excited.
I'm always excited for a new Deftones album. In my opinion, they've never put out a bad album (though I was disappointed with S/T, I wouldn't say it was bad). I'm really just aching for them to get really ambitious with their songwriting however. If everything is as straightforward as Melanie, then I might be a little disappointed, but I'm sure the album will still be good.
I don't actually get how some people could say that about ST. IMHO every album released by deftones has been awesome for the exception of a couple of tracks that arent all that; like pink cell phone other then that, great music. am looking forward to the upcoming release.
Quote from: Penicks on Apr 13, 2009, 03:35 PM
What the fuck dude. You make no sense. I mean. Jesus fucking ass.
Im sure that he is E.S.L.
" i need learn english. how much learn english cost money? you fuck my wife?"
Quote from: mr.sinister on Apr 13, 2009, 08:42 PM
I think Deftones should give the fans some more info on what they are doing i.e. blog or myspace bulletins. That would get people to really get excited.
the tones myspace page truly needs some love...it has turned into whore central.. all you see is comments from other people whoring themselves out BS.. "add me" blah blah...
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 12, 2009, 08:32 PM
Quote from: deftonekid on Apr 12, 2009, 08:17 PM
It took me several months to like S/T and now I love it.
i really dont get this "it takes months of listenings" crap,.. when i first heard the entire s/t album my jaw dropped to the floor... and at the same time i got worried... i thought "no, this is so fucking good i cant believe it, now there gonna be BIG for REAL and be all over the place" ....but that didnt happen. it got good reviews but then i saw fan sites dissing it and i was like "huh..? its fucking better than white pony ffs!"
Well after the progression of White Pony, it was a case of 'Holy shit, where are this band going?'. White Pony was the band hitting the stratosphere. and when I heard Deftones, I didn't dislike it, but I didn't know how to feel about it either. I knew on some level I dug the sound of it, without really articulating in my head that it was 'good', because to be honest I didn't KNOW it was good back then. I was a bit estranged from the album at first; White Pony was a hedonistic exploration, future proof and downright NEW, the band were perched to fly off into exciting new areas, and along comes Deftones, and its this fucking dark, fractured record. I kept listening to it, and the more I did, the more I looked into the lyrics and the sounds, it became apparent that Deftones was a derailing from the logical progression (following WP), and that this band had been hit with a sledgehammer sometime after Pony. On some level I sensed disappointment within me that their White Pony direction had ground to a halt, and that this band had maybe lucked out. Still there was something about the record that kept me listening. It was something I was determined to figure out. Was this record great and was I still rightfully listening for a reason, or was I right in thinking that this band's sudden change was a bad sign? Yet, for those who eventually understood, it wasn't disappointing at all. On some dirty, rotten, palm rubbing level, the band's personal issues were fortunate, because they'd laid those issues out on the record and produced arguably the best shit they'd laid down. I came to understand that it was actually the best direction they could've taken. Why? Well, think of it like this.
White Pony is standing in a pristine room, in front of a beautiful glass statuette of the Virgin Mary, viewing it through stoned eyes, and Deftones is the appearance of a crack across her face that you don't remember happening when you wake up the next morning. Its the acknowledgement of a fucking travesty. Its something you didn't see coming, yet you know for a fact you were witness to it at the time. Shit changes, you don't see the signs, and you're left to pick up the pieces, knowing full well that the broken pieces only got there with the added influence of you and your choices.
As exciting as White Pony was, it was kind of soulless - in some ways that's part of its hedonistic charm, but I had this new album, and it was a fucking soul record. Deftones could be played amongst Motown shit and fit right in. Ha ha. When it transpired what the band had gone through in that period, it all makes sense that Deftones was the fallout. There's nothing cerebral to Deftones, in comparison to WP, which is all very intellectual. Deftones was about heart, but it wasn't a record that was easy to get because that sense of soul came out of left field, given what had just gone before it (WP). So in that regard, it took a while to understand Deftones. When you do understand Deftones, its their best album.
I honestly believe that it was easy for fans back then to listen to Deftones and not get it without coming to understand the reasons for it. I also believe that whoever still doesn't rate Deftones, still doesn't appreciate the gravity of the record. I've said this before, but Deftones is their most painful, most heartfelt record. Its the one that the people who really fucking LOVE what this band have done, appreciate the most, because its the one time they really wore their hearts on their sleeves for the sake of the music. Its fucking wonderful that a band could go from the crazy experimental fronts of WP to such a stripped down approach of Deftones, and write better shit.
That's the difference between Deftones and SNW for me. SNW has little heart, and none of the intellectual stimulation of WP either. From the Ezrin shit I was hoping to get a good mix. With stuff like Buffalo, it seemed like the heart of Deftones was going to remain, but we were going to get some fresh soundscapes, and SNW would be the progessive train being put back on to the tracks after the interesting, fulfilling experience of Deftones. Not surprising really, Buffalo is quite frankly, more of a Deftones-era track gone semi-prog, which is exactly what I wanted next.
Shit didn't happen though. It'd better happen with the new one. This band are better when they write in the moment, and the wait for this new one is making me nervious.
Quote from: oneloveforchi on Apr 14, 2009, 12:05 AM
the tones myspace page truly needs some love...it has turned into whore central.. all you see is comments from other people whoring themselves out BS.. "add me" blah blah...
haha so true. lame.
I'm excited.
Quote from: deftonekid on Apr 14, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: oneloveforchi on Apr 14, 2009, 12:05 AM
the tones myspace page truly needs some love...it has turned into whore central.. all you see is comments from other people whoring themselves out BS.. "add me" blah blah...
haha so true. lame.
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 14, 2009, 12:17 AM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 12, 2009, 08:32 PM
Quote from: deftonekid on Apr 12, 2009, 08:17 PM
It took me several months to like S/T and now I love it.
i really dont get this "it takes months of listenings" crap,.. when i first heard the entire s/t album my jaw dropped to the floor... and at the same time i got worried... i thought "no, this is so fucking good i cant believe it, now there gonna be BIG for REAL and be all over the place" ....but that didnt happen. it got good reviews but then i saw fan sites dissing it and i was like "huh..? its fucking better than white pony ffs!"
Well after the progression of White Pony, it was a case of 'Holy shit, where are this band going?'. White Pony was the band hitting the stratosphere. and when I heard Deftones, I didn't dislike it, but I didn't know how to feel about it either. I knew on some level I dug the sound of it, without really articulating in my head that it was 'good', because to be honest I didn't KNOW it was good back then. I was a bit estranged from the album at first; White Pony was a hedonistic exploration, future proof and downright NEW, the band were perched to fly off into exciting new areas, and along comes Deftones, and its this fucking dark, fractured record. I kept listening to it, and the more I did, the more I looked into the lyrics and the sounds, it became apparent that Deftones was a derailing from the logical progression (following WP), and that this band had been hit with a sledgehammer sometime after Pony. On some level I sensed disappointment within me that their White Pony direction had ground to a halt, and that this band had maybe lucked out. Still there was something about the record that kept me listening. It was something I was determined to figure out. Was this record great and was I still rightfully listening for a reason, or was I right in thinking that this band's sudden change was a bad sign? Yet, for those who eventually understood, it wasn't disappointing at all. On some dirty, rotten, palm rubbing level, the band's personal issues were fortunate, because they'd laid those issues out on the record and produced arguably the best shit they'd laid down. I came to understand that it was actually the best direction they could've taken. Why? Well, think of it like this.
White Pony is standing in a pristine room, in front of a beautiful glass statuette of the Virgin Mary, viewing it through stoned eyes, and Deftones is the appearance of a crack across her face that you don't remember happening when you wake up the next morning. Its the acknowledgement of a fucking travesty. Its something you didn't see coming, yet you know for a fact you were witness to it at the time. Shit changes, you don't see the signs, and you're left to pick up the pieces, knowing full well that the broken pieces only got there with the added influence of you and your choices.
As exciting as White Pony was, it was kind of soulless - in some ways that's part of its hedonistic charm, but I had this new album, and it was a fucking soul record. Deftones could be played amongst Motown shit and fit right in. Ha ha. When it transpired what the band had gone through in that period, it all makes sense that Deftones was the fallout. There's nothing cerebral to Deftones, in comparison to WP, which is all very intellectual. Deftones was about heart, but it wasn't a record that was easy to get because that sense of soul came out of left field, given what had just gone before it (WP). So in that regard, it took a while to understand Deftones. When you do understand Deftones, its their best album.
I honestly believe that it was easy for fans back then to listen to Deftones and not get it without coming to understand the reasons for it. I also believe that whoever still doesn't rate Deftones, still doesn't appreciate the gravity of the record. I've said this before, but Deftones is their most painful, most heartfelt record. Its the one that the people who really fucking LOVE what this band have done, appreciate the most, because its the one time they really wore their hearts on their sleeves for the sake of the music. Its fucking wonderful that a band could go from the crazy experimental fronts of WP to such a stripped down approach of Deftones, and write better shit.
That's the difference between Deftones and SNW for me. SNW has little heart, and none of the intellectual stimulation of WP either. From the Ezrin shit I was hoping to get a good mix. With stuff like Buffalo, it seemed like the heart of Deftones was going to remain, but we were going to get some fresh soundscapes, and SNW would be the progessive train being put back on to the tracks after the interesting, fulfilling experience of Deftones. Not surprising really, Buffalo is quite frankly, more of a Deftones-era track gone semi-prog, which is exactly what I wanted next.
Shit didn't happen though. It'd better happen with the new one. This band are better when they write in the moment, and the wait for this new one is making me nervious.
wow really great read, your shit should be in magazines, reviews, ...stuff like that.maybe it is. took so long to read even my screen saver hit :)
i always thought of s/t as the next natural step from white pony... with similarities but better: wgtb=elite, lucky you=teenager and bloody cape with that heavy hard hitting bouncing style to it was the new korea to me. but your right,the record is more stripped down. i dont necessarily think one have to know what they been through as a band during the writing of the record to love it but i guess it helps.the record is more brutal thrashy dark evil and emotional... more raw and honest... listen to it is like beeing sucked into a black hole of misery. white pony was more fancy art,oh la di da. (still good thou. at that time it was great)
i think they (chino) rejected buffalo because it was so depressing and in the same way st were and he was sick of putting dark stuff on records and wanted to do something new..but that something new was something really shitty. it was bad times for the band during snw too and they felt they wanted to do something more cheerful. but that just aint deftones man.
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 14, 2009, 12:17 AM
Deftones is their most painful, most heartfelt record. Its the one that the people who really fucking LOVE what this band have done, appreciate the most, because its the one time they really wore their hearts on their sleeves for the sake of the music. Its fucking wonderful that a band could go from the crazy experimental fronts of WP to such a stripped down approach of Deftones, and write better shit.
word.
Quote from: mr.sinister on Apr 14, 2009, 06:35 AM
Quote from: deftonekid on Apr 14, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: oneloveforchi on Apr 14, 2009, 12:05 AM
the tones myspace page truly needs some love...it has turned into whore central.. all you see is comments from other people whoring themselves out BS.. "add me" blah blah...
haha so true. lame.
yeah...but....its kinda good, i really like to see that chicks who wants absolute sex
Quote
Well after the progression of White Pony, it was a case of 'Holy shit, where are this band going?'. White Pony was the band hitting the stratosphere. and when I heard Deftones, I didn't dislike it, but I didn't know how to feel about it either. I knew on some level I dug the sound of it, without really articulating in my head that it was 'good', because to be honest I didn't KNOW it was good back then. I was a bit estranged from the album at first; White Pony was a hedonistic exploration, future proof and downright NEW, the band were perched to fly off into exciting new areas, and along comes Deftones, and its this fucking dark, fractured record. I kept listening to it, and the more I did, the more I looked into the lyrics and the sounds, it became apparent that Deftones was a derailing from the logical progression (following WP), and that this band had been hit with a sledgehammer sometime after Pony. On some level I sensed disappointment within me that their White Pony direction had ground to a halt, and that this band had maybe lucked out. Still there was something about the record that kept me listening. It was something I was determined to figure out. Was this record great and was I still rightfully listening for a reason, or was I right in thinking that this band's sudden change was a bad sign? Yet, for those who eventually understood, it wasn't disappointing at all. On some dirty, rotten, palm rubbing level, the band's personal issues were fortunate, because they'd laid those issues out on the record and produced arguably the best shit they'd laid down. I came to understand that it was actually the best direction they could've taken. Why? Well, think of it like this.
White Pony is standing in a pristine room, in front of a beautiful glass statuette of the Virgin Mary, viewing it through stoned eyes, and Deftones is the appearance of a crack across her face that you don't remember happening when you wake up the next morning. Its the acknowledgement of a fucking travesty. Its something you didn't see coming, yet you know for a fact you were witness to it at the time. Shit changes, you don't see the signs, and you're left to pick up the pieces, knowing full well that the broken pieces only got there with the added influence of you and your choices.
As exciting as White Pony was, it was kind of soulless - in some ways that's part of its hedonistic charm, but I had this new album, and it was a fucking soul record. Deftones could be played amongst Motown shit and fit right in. Ha ha. When it transpired what the band had gone through in that period, it all makes sense that Deftones was the fallout. There's nothing cerebral to Deftones, in comparison to WP, which is all very intellectual. Deftones was about heart, but it wasn't a record that was easy to get because that sense of soul came out of left field, given what had just gone before it (WP). So in that regard, it took a while to understand Deftones. When you do understand Deftones, its their best album.
I honestly believe that it was easy for fans back then to listen to Deftones and not get it without coming to understand the reasons for it. I also believe that whoever still doesn't rate Deftones, still doesn't appreciate the gravity of the record. I've said this before, but Deftones is their most painful, most heartfelt record. Its the one that the people who really fucking LOVE what this band have done, appreciate the most, because its the one time they really wore their hearts on their sleeves for the sake of the music. Its fucking wonderful that a band could go from the crazy experimental fronts of WP to such a stripped down approach of Deftones, and write better shit.
That's the difference between Deftones and SNW for me. SNW has little heart, and none of the intellectual stimulation of WP either. From the Ezrin shit I was hoping to get a good mix. With stuff like Buffalo, it seemed like the heart of Deftones was going to remain, but we were going to get some fresh soundscapes, and SNW would be the progessive train being put back on to the tracks after the interesting, fulfilling experience of Deftones. Not surprising really, Buffalo is quite frankly, more of a Deftones-era track gone semi-prog, which is exactly what I wanted next.
Shit didn't happen though. It'd better happen with the new one. This band are better when they write in the moment, and the wait for this new one is making me nervious.
Wow I think that was the best, as well as one of the most accurate, reviews of post-y2k Deftones albums/material I ever read.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Apr 14, 2009, 01:39 PM
yeah...but....its kinda good, i really like to see that chicks who wants absolute sex
Wow I think that was the best, as well as one of the most accurate, reviews of deftones sites I ever read.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 14, 2009, 05:18 PM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Apr 14, 2009, 01:39 PM
yeah...but....its kinda good, i really like to see that chicks who wants absolute sex
Wow I think that was the best, as well as one of the most accurate, reviews of deftones sites I ever read.
lmaO ;D
wtf? why a motherfucker done twisted my words on my post? >:( Not cool, fuckhead
no what u typed in your post is still the same
WP beats s/t's ass, period. that's not a knock on s/t, just WP is much better. i'd say the band themselves would agree
Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 14, 2009, 09:33 PM
WP beats s/t's ass, period. that's not a knock on s/t, just WP is much better. i'd say the band themselves would agree
yeah they would, because it made more money
Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 14, 2009, 09:33 PM
WP beats s/t's ass, period. that's not a knock on s/t, just WP is much better. i'd say the band themselves would agree
The band says exactly how I feel about S/T. They were lazy when they were writing it.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Apr 14, 2009, 10:49 PM
The band says exactly how I feel about S/T. They were lazy when they were writing it.
oh man,u just got fooled by the advertising of snw.
"The songs are kind of brainy. They're more Rush than Tool in a way," he continued. "On our last record, we got kind of lazy by writing as few riffs as possible. This one we're writing way more riffs"
thats chino bashing the old stuff (s/t) and promoting the new (snw).. rock stars ALWAYS do that in interviews before a release.
do u think chino consider snw songs brainy now when he is gonna promote eros?
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Apr 14, 2009, 10:49 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 14, 2009, 09:33 PM
WP beats s/t's ass, period. that's not a knock on s/t, just WP is much better. i'd say the band themselves would agree
The band says exactly how I feel about S/T. They were lazy when they were writing it.
To be honest, from the sounds of things, I'm sure SNW was where they were actually lazy. Of Deftones and SNW, Deftones actually sounds like a cohesive album. SNW is just a random mix of whatever they were coming out with, whereas all of the stuff on Deftones belongs together, because it was actually written as an album. I'd say that was more of an effort. It can't possibly be lazy, in comparison, when all the tracks fit together so well. Its just 'stripped down', musically.
I think that album engulfed the band more than even they realise. Perhaps that's the charm in listening to it. Maybe it means more to the listener than the band, like how you notice and appreciate things in the people around you that they are oblivious to themselves.
fuck you
i like snw...
kimdracula
beware
cherry waves
combat
hite
riviere...........is better than moana, annivesvary, good morning, lhabia,rickets and feiticeira
i like snw better than s/t too.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 15, 2009, 08:03 AM
i like snw better than s/t too.
hehe this guy's hilarious, get this man a drink ;D
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 15, 2009, 08:07 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 15, 2009, 08:03 AM
i like snw better than s/t too.
hehe this guy's hilarious, get this man a drink ;D
i love him.........
i love everybody..
only deftones makes me sick !....... fat asses !...
get me a drink..
I prefer S/T over WP, SNW and ATF (and Adrenaline).
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Apr 15, 2009, 07:13 AM
fuck you
i like snw...
kimdracula
beware
cherry waves
combat
hite
riviere...........is better than moana, annivesvary, good morning, lhabia,rickets and feiticeira
kimdracula - ok pop rock song, no more no less.dont reach the normal standard on a deftones album...more of a b-side song.
i dont like that chino sounds like a cow with that mmmoooooouuuu after 2 min
beware - live version was decent, had a sound in the chours that oozed anxiety but they got rid of it on ther album, bad mistake.maybe for that happy feel of the album. chinos voice sound forced and awful.
cherry waves - piece of shit song, the chours YooOoU sounds childish and annoying as hell, cant stand it
combat - best song on the album, why not more of these tunes?
hite - dont feel like deftones,chinos voice not that great.feels like they cover a song from an other artist
riviere - meh. breakdown good though
Opinions are like assholes. Everyones got one and they all stink.
and as for riviere as last track.. i demand more from a closer on a def album. when the final chord is struck on moana,u feel kind of exhausted and sweaty... it grabs u and shake u around.. like flying on a dragon through hell. i love that tune.riviere is more of a nice tune to have in the background
and who are these morons voting for more team sleep stuff when they are working on eros ??? fucking crackheads
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 15, 2009, 03:51 PM
and who are these morons voting for more team sleep stuff when they are working on eros ??? fucking crackheads
actually i am one of them
but it wasnt about team sleep...
i just wanted to vote ''fuck deftones''
- also each deftones album is different (not like another artist but different)
- snw has more soundcapes, different styles, echo voices (on the other albums chino's voice effect was like phone sound)
- cherry waves is a kick ass sound, you cant call it childish if pinky-blue dreams and love are in it...
- my guess, you like only heavy guitar and phone effected voice and you hate echo, all sound effects..
- fuck you too, but i really like you..
- kimdracula is a pop rock song ?!. When did you get out from the cave ?...its one of the songs which has an own style that deftones ever made..
- i agree that chino's voice is completely weak on this album but songs, melodies, guitars, drums and style is good.
- everyone can play any songs of deftones but snw !...even they cant...
- i am not saying snw is the best album but its 2006, everything grown up but you want the music stay the same..
- what i feel about eros is they are gonna be back to old albums...like atf+wp thing..
- fuck you again, but i really think that you are cool nowadays..
- s-t album not a completed album...even i can do/add that songs better parts/ends
- i think snw hasnt pink cellphone people would feel better about it..cuz lucky you is a great song but people like jesus thinks that is childsh...(yeah wtf..you find what am i talkin about)
- i m on the same opinion about riviere, i mean its beautiful..but the end ?...after mein and pin cellshit the album s finished ?...
whatever....read it jesus..i love you
- also each deftones album is different (not like another artist but different) i never said anything else
- snw has more soundcapes, different styles, echo voices (on the other albums chino's voice effect was like phone sound) so what? it sucks anyway no matter how much soundscaping
- my guess, you like only heavy guitar and phone effected voice and you hate echo, all sound effects.. " as long as its good it doesnt matter what effect.
- i agree that chino's voice is completely weak on this album but songs, melodies, guitars, drums and style is good." abes drum is good on snw
- everyone can play any songs of deftones but snw !...even they cant..." still, doesnt matter if its hard to play or not yngwe malmsteen is hard to play, aint good for that sake.
- s-t album not a completed album..." it is.
- i think snw hasnt pink cellphone people would feel better about it..cuz lucky you is a great song but people like jesus thinks that is childsh..
i rather listen to pink cellphone than teenager, i really do. i think lucky u is their best electronic song though.teenager isnt that good song by itself but it makes the white pony record fly when u listen from start to finish
- i m on the same opinion about riviere, i mean its beautiful..but the end ?...after mein and pin cellshit the album s finished ?...
riviere is best as closer if u choose from snw but it isnt good enough as a deftones closer if u know what i mean
You both made some very good points. Now kiss, make up, and shut the fuck up! lol just jokin
Anyways I have hope that "Eros" or whatever it ends up being called is going to be better than SNW. I believe this is more than just an opinion, but a fact.
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 15, 2009, 03:44 PM
Opinions are like assholes. Everyones got one and they all stink.
haha
cringe worthy shit in this thread, apart from Bergerac's posts of course :-*
Quote from: Nebontha on Apr 15, 2009, 09:00 PM
You both made some very good points. Now kiss, make up, and shut the fuck up! lol just jokin
Anyways I have hope that "Eros" or whatever it ends up being called is going to be better than SNW. I believe this is more than just an opinion, but a fact.
maybe it ends up beeing called sEro. as in zero bad songs?
::)
SNW is genius.
Anyway, why analyse things to death? Listen to music without directly listening to it.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 15, 2009, 10:48 PM
Quote from: nineteenpeoplesnames on Apr 15, 2009, 10:42 PM
SNW is genius.
in what way?
youuu-wuuuuu
Quote from: nineteenpeoplesnames on Apr 15, 2009, 10:42 PM
Listen to music without directly listening to it.
i think he says there s not just drum guitar bass and voice on the album....there are so much elements in it..
can i ask you guys something....
where is variable and white pwny ,devlin, miss.. and the others ?!..
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 15, 2009, 03:49 PM
and as for riviere as last track.. i demand more from a closer on a def album. when the final chord is struck on moana,u feel kind of exhausted and sweaty... it grabs u and shake u around.. like flying on a dragon through hell. i love that tune.riviere is more of a nice tune to have in the background
i think maybe you just had the best year of your life in 2003 or something & s/t takes you back, so it feels better than it really is to you. i dunno. there's no way snw is so horrible & s/t is so great, it's the same band, & the stuff isnt that different (& riviere > moana, by miles)
I'd say that if White Pony is the peak of a high at it's most euphoric, then S/T is the comedown from that high the next day. It's the after-effect. And I mean that as a compliment to S/T.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 15, 2009, 10:48 PM
Quote from: nineteenpeoplesnames on Apr 15, 2009, 10:42 PM
SNW is genius.
in what way?
It's just so difficult to get into and sounds like no other band out there. Usually comparisons immediately appear but with that album I don't get any.
The new album should be progressively amazing as always.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 16, 2009, 12:03 AM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 15, 2009, 03:49 PM
and as for riviere as last track.. i demand more from a closer on a def album. when the final chord is struck on moana,u feel kind of exhausted and sweaty... it grabs u and shake u around.. like flying on a dragon through hell. i love that tune.riviere is more of a nice tune to have in the background
i think maybe you just had the best year of your life in 2003 or something & s/t takes you back, so it feels better than it really is to you. i dunno. there's no way snw is so horrible & s/t is so great, it's the same band, & the stuff isnt that different (& riviere > moana, by miles)
Absolutely not. The final chord on Moana leaves you with a sense of completion after a song that kept you on edge for 5 minutes. Riviere is very good, mind you, but it is too under-developed to have the same kind of effect as Moana.
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 16, 2009, 01:24 AM
I'd say that if White Pony is the peak of a high at it's most euphoric, then S/T is the comedown from that high the next day. It's the after-effect. And I mean that as a compliment to S/T.
wow. thats the best explanation i've heard concerning that era and those two albums in relation to one another
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 14, 2009, 09:55 AM
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 14, 2009, 12:17 AM
Deftones is their most painful, most heartfelt record. Its the one that the people who really fucking LOVE what this band have done, appreciate the most, because its the one time they really wore their hearts on their sleeves for the sake of the music. Its fucking wonderful that a band could go from the crazy experimental fronts of WP to such a stripped down approach of Deftones, and write better shit.
word.
WORD
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 15, 2009, 03:49 PM
when the final chord is struck on moana,u feel kind of exhausted and sweaty... it grabs u and shake u around.. like flying on a dragon through hell. i love that tune.riviere is more of a nice tune to have in the background
yes, the final chord makes you press play again to hear the ENTIRE album again, and once agin, end with AMAZING Moana.
In th meanwhile, with Riviere, you only say.. well, good song, let's hear now the songs that i like the most of this album... not the entire album...
but you know, each to his own opinion ;)
yeah but Riviere a good ending song to the album i cudnt bear listening to it at the beggining or in the middle somewhere...and since we are all venting Mein shud be deleted from existance..i mean man, Beware ties in awesomely with CW but mein kinda justs kuts your cartoid...even on WP Pink maggit was i faine ending as well the whole beating heart thing...fist hell yeah even Damone the greatest endtrack on the album about loves, lust and pain sorta sums up the previous 10 songs ya know
honestly the only deftones song i could say i really don't like is back to school.
there's no point in getting excited about eros, wait till it comes out, fanboys.
shut up queer
im excited
Well. Fist, Damone, PINK "AWESOMENESS" MAGGIT, Moana... those are great fucking closers to their albums!!
but Riviere... well, it's just ok..
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 04, 2009, 07:58 PM
Well. Fist, Damone, PINK "AWESOMENESS" MAGGIT, Moana... those are great fucking closers to their albums!!
but Riviere... well, it's just ok..
+1
the eros closer will be off the hook,im sure of it
Quote from: rock_n_frost on May 04, 2009, 07:51 AM
shut up queer
im homosexual
(http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/img/facepalm.jpeg)
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 02:11 AM
honestly the only deftones song i could say i really don't like is back to school.
there's no point in getting excited about eros, wait till it comes out, fanboys.
i dig waht your saying thats usually the only song mainstream listeners know them by that or cahnge..and its disgusting that people think that the awesomeness of the tones is at its peak with those songs hellno man, and me that was the way it was with mein "ohh they collabed with the SOAD guy that songs gotta be awesome" fuck that....b ut one thing fer certain men and ladies
the tones are still the "leaders of it all" twenty years later, EROS is going to blow our heads off some shape way or form.....
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 02:11 AM
honestly the only deftones song i could say i really don't like is back to school.
there's no point in getting excited about eros, wait till it comes out, fanboys.
Shut your face boy. It's a fucking Deftones album. Come to think of it, this is a Deftones forum. We are allowed to hype an unreleased album of the band we love. Come to think of it, suck my nuts.
Quote from: Penicks on May 04, 2009, 10:02 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 02:11 AM
honestly the only deftones song i could say i really don't like is back to school.
there's no point in getting excited about eros, wait till it comes out, fanboys.
Shut your face boy. It's a fucking Deftones album. Come to think of it, this is a Deftones forum. We are allowed to hype an unreleased album of the band we love. Come to think of it, suck my nuts.
fanboy
thats penick for you. pwnd
but he is right
its a fucking tones album, thats like rigth up there with the second coming
no shit....but i can wait. it's not like i'm gonna kill myself over a cd.
whoa whoa you feelin suicidal kid?
bub?
blob?
it aint that bad.
the serious fans, just take offense is all.
(http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/mohfreak/deftones-starwarfighter1.jpg)
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 10:29 PM
it's not like i'm gonna kill myself over a cd.
let us help with you with that
;D
(http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/mohfreak/Untitled-7.jpg)
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 04, 2009, 10:38 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 10:29 PM
it's not like i'm gonna kill myself over a cd.
let us help with you with that
sure if you can find me :)
i guess i must be the only serious fan on this board who doesn't take offense
I really hope they don't put out a single or nothin so when it comes out it's just a huge suprise, seriously. from the first track to the last.
Quote from: Earthman on May 05, 2009, 01:01 AM
I really hope they don't put out a single or nothin so when it comes out it's just a huge suprise, seriously. from the first track to the last.
intelligence detected.
I'm pretty stoked for it! I can't wait to hear this shit. I'm the biggest fan i know lol
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 04, 2009, 07:58 PM
Well. Fist, Damone, PINK "AWESOMENESS" MAGGIT, Moana... those are great fucking closers to their albums!!
but Riviere... well, it's just ok..
Actually, "Moana" is the one closer of theirs that I like the least. I definitely like "Riviere" far better. And for around the fur I actually think of "MX" as the proper closer and "Damone" as just a hidden track way after the album is over.
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 11:06 PM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 04, 2009, 10:38 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 10:29 PM
it's not like i'm gonna kill myself over a cd.
let us help with you with that
sure if you can find me :)
i guess i must be the only serious fan on this board who doesn't take offense
also gay
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 11:06 PM
sure if you can find me :)
no problem - you smell
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 01:07 AM
Quote from: Earthman on May 05, 2009, 01:01 AM
I really hope they don't put out a single or nothin so when it comes out it's just a huge suprise, seriously. from the first track to the last.
intelligence detected.
stupidity detected. ask anyone at a record company, its dumb to not release a single before the actual album.why do record companies release a singles before the actual album? because it makes the album sell better. well duh. .thats why record companies promote records that way - because it works.
as for myself, i dont like a single before the whole album but i would be surprised if the didnt released one
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 05, 2009, 07:11 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 11:06 PM
sure if you can find me :)
no problem - you smell
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 01:07 AM
Quote from: Earthman on May 05, 2009, 01:01 AM
I really hope they don't put out a single or nothin so when it comes out it's just a huge suprise, seriously. from the first track to the last.
intelligence detected.
stupidity detected. ask anyone at a record company, its dumb to not release a single before the actual album.why do record companies release a singles before the actual album? because it makes the album sell better. well duh. .thats why record companies promote records that way - because it works.
as for myself, i dont like a single before the whole album but i would be surprised if the didnt released one
like strawberries.
thanks for telling me something i already know. i would love for the album to be released track 1 to finish with no preview...it's THE DEFTONES. they don't NEED to have a single before the album comes out. do you know how many people are WAITING patiently for this cd to come out?
Those people are faggots. I fap to Chino pics. Wait what.
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 02:31 PM
it's THE DEFTONES. they don't NEED to have a single before the album comes out. do you know how many people are WAITING patiently for this cd to come out?
i am sorry but they absolutely need :)
its not linkin park..its deftones..deftones means ''quality music'' and thats what most of people dont wanna hear..
(why everyone use linkin park as a sample nowadays)
well...i personally think this will be the deftone's last album.
chinos gettin too old to be screamin...and all the good bands eventually die out. he'll still be playing.
i mean...unless he gets it back and thinks he can go another round hahaha
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 02:31 PM
thanks for telling me something i already know. i would love for the album to be released track 1 to finish with no preview...it's THE DEFTONES. they don't NEED to have a single before the album comes out. do you know how many people are WAITING patiently for this cd to come out?
so the record company just gonna kick back,put their feet on the table and settle for those who wait for the new deftones record? of course they are gonna try attract new fans with singles who isnt aware of deftones now. if they dont try that, they are lousy business men and should do something else
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 05, 2009, 04:16 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 02:31 PM
thanks for telling me something i already know. i would love for the album to be released track 1 to finish with no preview...it's THE DEFTONES. they don't NEED to have a single before the album comes out. do you know how many people are WAITING patiently for this cd to come out?
so the record company just gonna kick back,put their feet on the table and settle for those who wait for the new deftones record? of course they are gonna try attract new fans with singles who isnt aware of deftones now. if they dont try that, they are lousy business men and should do something else
i know they need a single, i just said that.
that's just how i personally feel about the deftones...the band, and the entirety of everyone and everything the band has done.
by the way, music speaks loudly in this family
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 02:31 PM
it's THE DEFTONES. they don't NEED to have a single before the album comes out.
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 04:36 PM
i know they need a single
::)
jesusisawolofdirt is a devil, no more sugar....you will understand
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 05, 2009, 04:47 PM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 02:31 PM
it's THE DEFTONES. they don't NEED to have a single before the album comes out.
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 04:36 PM
i know they need a single
::)
That's how great I think the deftones are.
I'm not an idiot, and I know they need a single.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 05, 2009, 07:11 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 11:06 PM
sure if you can find me :)
no problem - you smell
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 01:07 AM
Quote from: Earthman on May 05, 2009, 01:01 AM
I really hope they don't put out a single or nothin so when it comes out it's just a huge suprise, seriously. from the first track to the last.
intelligence detected.
stupidity detected. ask anyone at a record company, its dumb to not release a single before the actual album.why do record companies release a singles before the actual album? because it makes the album sell better. well duh. .thats why record companies promote records that way - because it works.
as for myself, i dont like a single before the whole album but i would be surprised if the didnt released one
Fuck sales man, they've already got their crowd, and their fans are so fuckin loyal they ain't goin' nowhere, and if they were true fans theyd be on my side, and want it a suprise, unless you kool aid drinkin' new generation punkers just gotta have the singles, them always the worst tracks anyway, they're just the easiest to palate for hollywood. wollyhood.
Quote from: Earthman on May 05, 2009, 07:06 PM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 05, 2009, 07:11 AM
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 04, 2009, 11:06 PM
sure if you can find me :)
no problem - you smell
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 05, 2009, 01:07 AM
Quote from: Earthman on May 05, 2009, 01:01 AM
I really hope they don't put out a single or nothin so when it comes out it's just a huge suprise, seriously. from the first track to the last.
intelligence detected.
stupidity detected. ask anyone at a record company, its dumb to not release a single before the actual album.why do record companies release a singles before the actual album? because it makes the album sell better. well duh. .thats why record companies promote records that way - because it works.
as for myself, i dont like a single before the whole album but i would be surprised if the didnt released one
Fuck sales man, they've already got their crowd, and their fans are so fuckin loyal they ain't goin' nowhere, and if they were true fans theyd be on my side, and want it a suprise, unless you kool aid drinkin' new generation punkers just gotta have the singles, them always the worst tracks anyway, they're just the easiest to palate for hollywood. wollyhood.
they want the money...trust me.
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on May 05, 2009, 05:48 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 04, 2009, 07:58 PM
Well. Fist, Damone, PINK "AWESOMENESS" MAGGIT, Moana... those are great fucking closers to their albums!!
but Riviere... well, it's just ok..
Actually, "Moana" is the one closer of theirs that I like the least. I definitely like "Riviere" far better. And for around the fur I actually think of "MX" as the proper closer and "Damone" as just a hidden track way after the album is over.
Yes, actually MX is a great proper closer and Damone like a gift to close such an awesome album.
But Moana... man... Moana is really a masterpiece!
But yes, each to his own, i think.
Yup, to each his own, cause I don't even understand how someone can prefer Moana to Rivière. So yeah, the sentence " to each his own " is really adapted here.
i think riviere is pretty lame. i admire anyone who can listen to it without yawning. moana on the other hand is awesome as hell. heavyness,darkness,dirty,beautfiful,despair,emotion,speed,desperation, its all of that baby
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 10, 2009, 07:12 PM
heavyness,darkness,dirty,beautfiful,despair,emotion,speed,desperation, its all of that baby
That's the whole of the S/T album and that's why I love it so much.
either are a good choice in my opinion.
riviere is heavy too just in the right places to carry the song
mein still sucks
It's like just before SNW came out on here! Same old debates haha
and it's going to remain the same until the deftones put out eros or do something...
at this moment i'm really fucking excited about the album. i really wanna hear it.
Gotta admit, I didn't like Mein. At all. I don't even know what the fuck Serj is doing on the song, what he does on the track could be done by any beginning singer.
He actually helped them get kickin on the album, that's what he did, they weren't writing shit till Serj brought it down... it's science, read that shit in a beer magazine ;)
Quote from: pixElsblUr on May 11, 2009, 04:44 PM
He actually helped them get kickin on the album, that's what he did, they weren't writing shit till Serj brought it down... it's science, read that shit in a beer magazine ;)
if he wouldnt help this song wouldnt be out.....also that shitty video clip.......and also we could have another song in the album
thats a good thing !.
tip of my hat to you man (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z120/emjaym_photos/animated%20gifs/tiphatsmiley.gif?t=1242066979)
and this is for you man....
(http://www.gossipgirlinsider.com/images/gallery/sexy-school-girl.jpg)
hope you can get someone close this chick soon ;)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1034/dsc011561.jpg)
is that chick for me vesanic ?
What d'you think about her physical ?
is that your broad V? shes hot dude
she's ready for children.
she's probably dtf.
Quote from: wither-I on May 11, 2009, 08:34 PM
she's ready for children.
hahahah
Vesanic, when i look that photo i see a BAD RETOUCH with Photoshop.....
the girls is hot...if thats your girl, you are a real lucky bastard..
:D
Someone needs to ease up on the gaussian blur here
Quote from: Vesanic on May 11, 2009, 08:16 PM
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1034/dsc011561.jpg)
hahaha
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 12, 2009, 01:05 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on May 11, 2009, 09:13 PM
:D
Showoff.
smiley face is not a proper answer. and btw, it says on you tube vesanic (Meteoralogist) is 29 and this girl is what,15? so i hope for he's sake he has a girl more of his age
Quote from: Vesanic on May 11, 2009, 04:34 PM
Gotta admit, I didn't like Mein. At all. I don't even know what the fuck Serj is doing on the song, what he does on the track could be done by any beginning singer.
he is on the track so they could release a singel with a more famous name and voice (serj) and sell more records cause of it because soad was really famous. thats how the record company was thinking. before the snw release chino talked about how he thought mein was going to end up as a b-side (meaning he concidered the track not so good) but record companies usually win
Ok, thanks for the info.
I'm not 29, I'm 19, I put a random birthdate on YouTube when I signed up.
And the girl is 18.
do you know the girl indeed??
if so, she's gorgeous!
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 13, 2009, 04:31 AM
do you know the girl indeed??
if so, she's gorgeous!
do you have a girlfriend dude ?
im just askin :)
why the question??
actually no at the moment... :(
For all my praising of the Deftones album, Moana's the one thing I think that is wrong with it. It's a decent closer song (though I think its the weakest of the 5 they've offically released), but its a sudden concept song on an album bereft of any concept. This 'superflybitch on stage' comes out of nowhere and the sudden displacement of context gives the feeling that the song has been tacked on the end. I think a good 'general' song was needed to fit with the rest of the album. That's the great thing about most of the context of Deftones. There's nothing specific about it at all, and the vagueness of Moreno's writing had suddenly shown another dynamic. The album's about mood, and avoids specifics. If you go through all of the tracks one by one, and look at the lyrical content, all of the description is minimal, which gives a feeling of being swept up in the moment, rather than being reflective.
For this reason, I think that Lovers would've been a better closer for Deftones. It also would've been more of an uplifting moment than anything on SNW was, because it'd be like the light at the end of the tunnel, and the album would end on a high note of sorts. Lou Reed's Transformer album did a similar thing, where the whole album documents his heartbreak and halfway through the final song, Goodnight Ladies (misleading even with it's title), you realise that he's in love again and the cycle continues, and it wasn't the continuation of misery you thought it was probably going to be.
I agree that Moana may be a better musical fit after Anniversary's sound. but I think they would've been better off ending with a song that continued the same subdued use of imagery as all the other songs and that was more about feeling, like Lovers was. With Moana, I think it would've been better if she was just a stranger walking down the street or some shit like in the Bloody Cape video. You know, 'doo a diddy diddy dum diddy doo' and all that shit. I think it's the whole idea of her being on stage that I don't like, because you'd think the rest of the album would have been a prelude to that moment, given how important she immediately becomes .
I listen to that track and I'm like 'Who the fuck is this, and why am I supposed to care about her all of a sudden? You're singing about her like you have been the whole time, but you haven't'.
I've said it a million times, S/T was really lazy. There were some really great ideas, but a lot of the songs sound either unfinished or like rehashes of other songs or reuse of ideas. Moana fits the rehash/reused criteria perfectly. I mean, how many times did the band think they could use a two chord strumming intro/verse? Or how many times are they going to play the intro/verse riff as a substitute for a bridge? I don't think the Deftones have really ever written a "bad" song, but they can be incredibly lazy and it showed on S/T. Moana has a great vibe to it, but it's definitely their weakest closer.
QuoteFor all my praising of the Deftones album, Moana's the one thing I think that is wrong with it. It's a decent closer song (though I think its the weakest of the 5 they've offically released), but its a sudden concept song on an album bereft of any concept. This 'superflybitch on stage' comes out of nowhere and the sudden displacement of context gives the feeling that the song has been tacked on the end. I think a good 'general' song was needed to fit with the rest of the album. That's the great thing about most of the context of Deftones. There's nothing specific about it at all, and the vagueness of Moreno's writing had suddenly shown another dynamic. The album's about mood, and avoids specifics. If you go through all of the tracks one by one, and look at the lyrical content, all of the description is minimal, which gives a feeling of being swept up in the moment, rather than being reflective.
For this reason, I think that Lovers would've been a better closer for Deftones. It also would've been more of an uplifting moment than anything on SNW was, because it'd be like the light at the end of the tunnel, and the album would end on a high note of sorts. Lou Reed's Transformer album did a similar thing, where the whole album documents his heartbreak and halfway through the final song, Goodnight Ladies (misleading even with it's title), you realise that he's in love again and the cycle continues, and it wasn't the continuation of misery you thought it was probably going to be.
I agree that Moana may be a better musical fit after Anniversary's sound. but I think they would've been better off ending with a song that continued the same subdued use of imagery as all the other songs and that was more about feeling, like Lovers was. With Moana, I think it would've been better if she was just a stranger walking down the street or some shit like in the Bloody Cape video. You know, 'doo a diddy diddy dum diddy doo' and all that shit. I think it's the whole idea of her being on stage that I don't like, because you'd think the rest of the album would have been a prelude to that moment, given how important she immediately becomes .
I listen to that track and I'm like 'Who the fuck is this, and why am I supposed to care about her all of a sudden? You're singing about her like you have been the whole time, but you haven't'.
I was thinking almost the same thing about Lovers, before I even read the second paragraph of your post.
Damone, for some reason, is my favourite Deftones' album-closing track.
QuoteTopic: How do you currently feel about the Tones's upcoming album?
Still stoked as a bloke. It's no joke.
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 13, 2009, 04:31 AM
do you know the girl indeed??
Yup, I've fucked her last night.
Quote from: Vesanic on May 13, 2009, 08:14 PM
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 13, 2009, 04:31 AM
do you know the girl indeed??
Yup, I've fucked her last night.
real lucky bastard
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 13, 2009, 06:09 PM
actually no at the moment... :(
i see ;D
dont stay alone dude....find someone
Quote from: Nebontha on May 13, 2009, 07:49 PM
Damone, for some reason, is my favourite Deftones' album-closing track.
that and fist..
Pink Maggit and Riviere were two good closing songs, too.
yeah..........so i guess i just dont like moana at all...
thats the result
QuoteDamone, for some reason, is my favourite Deftones' album-closing track.
that and fist..
QuotePink Maggit and Riviere were two good closing songs, too.
yes yes and yes. Damone is just my favorite one, Moana being least favorite obviously... I'm too lazy to order/classify the other ones....not that anyone cares anyway LOL
Quoteyeah..........so i guess i just dont like moana at all...
thats the result
I don't necessarily DISlike it, just need to be in a certain mood to really appreciate it...which is very rare...
Quote from: Nebontha on May 13, 2009, 07:49 PM
I was thinking almost the same thing about Lovers, before I even read the second paragraph of your post.
jaja.. the same for me... i though the same ;)
Quote from: rock_n_frost on May 13, 2009, 08:45 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on May 13, 2009, 08:14 PM
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 13, 2009, 04:31 AM
do you know the girl indeed??
Yup, I've fucked her last night.
real FUCKING LUCKY bastard
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 13, 2009, 06:09 PM
actually no at the moment... :(
i see ;D
dont stay alone dude....find someone
lucky vesanic, but i don't believe you jaja 8)
and never alone, no girlfriend but many good friends (girls, of course ;D)
Quote from: Vesanic on May 13, 2009, 08:47 PM
Pink Maggit and Riviere were two good closing songs, too.
Well, my top of closers are:
including hidden tracks or added/bonus tracks:
1. The Boys Republic
2. Moana
3. Damone
4. Fist
5. Riviere
without hidden tracks:
1. Pink maggit
2. Fireal
2. Mx
2. Moana
3. Riviere
i know that there is a draw at 2nd place, but seriously those 3 songs are REALLY FUCKING AWESOME EACH ONE!!! 8) 8)
Quote1. The Boys Republic
2. Moana
3. Damone
4. Fist
5. Riviere
without hidden tracks:
1. Pink maggit
2. Fireal
2. Mx
2. Moana
3. Riviere
that is one complete list, ese
Quote from: Bergerac on May 13, 2009, 06:20 PM
For all my praising of the Deftones album, Moana's the one thing I think that is wrong with it. It's a decent closer song (though I think its the weakest of the 5 they've offically released), but its a sudden concept song on an album bereft of any concept. This 'superflybitch on stage' comes out of nowhere and the sudden displacement of context gives the feeling that the song has been tacked on the end. I think a good 'general' song was needed to fit with the rest of the album. That's the great thing about most of the context of Deftones. There's nothing specific about it at all, and the vagueness of Moreno's writing had suddenly shown another dynamic. The album's about mood, and avoids specifics. If you go through all of the tracks one by one, and look at the lyrical content, all of the description is minimal, which gives a feeling of being swept up in the moment, rather than being reflective.
For this reason, I think that Lovers would've been a better closer for Deftones. It also would've been more of an uplifting moment than anything on SNW was, because it'd be like the light at the end of the tunnel, and the album would end on a high note of sorts. Lou Reed's Transformer album did a similar thing, where the whole album documents his heartbreak and halfway through the final song, Goodnight Ladies (misleading even with it's title), you realise that he's in love again and the cycle continues, and it wasn't the continuation of misery you thought it was probably going to be.
I agree that Moana may be a better musical fit after Anniversary's sound. but I think they would've been better off ending with a song that continued the same subdued use of imagery as all the other songs and that was more about feeling, like Lovers was. With Moana, I think it would've been better if she was just a stranger walking down the street or some shit like in the Bloody Cape video. You know, 'doo a diddy diddy dum diddy doo' and all that shit. I think it's the whole idea of her being on stage that I don't like, because you'd think the rest of the album would have been a prelude to that moment, given how important she immediately becomes .
I listen to that track and I'm like 'Who the fuck is this, and why am I supposed to care about her all of a sudden? You're singing about her like you have been the whole time, but you haven't'.
tl;dr
i love nebontha :)
also
defthe1s
vesanic
deftonekid
peniks, lithium.....
.......i can keep go
you can't even write my name correctly you saggy cunt
its confusing.......
you know i never want to be friend with a penis..
when i write your name, i am just getting scared
Quote from: rock_n_frost on May 14, 2009, 06:56 AM
i love nebontha :)
also
defthe1s
vesanic
deftonekid
peniks, lithium.....
.......i can keep go
jaja.. too sad you're not a girl .. jajaja
just joking...
if i were a girl i would give my pussy to you all, you worth it !...
- i hope that would change girls mind and they would give us in a good sex party -
....btw, what the hell was that thread about ?
Quotei love nebontha Smiley
also
defthe1s
vesanic
deftonekid
peniks, lithium.....
.......i can keep go
Wow that's funny, just a few weeks ago I thought you hated me or something LOL.
I like you too, in a brotherly way of course. I don't know about the others, I can not and will not speak for them.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on May 14, 2009, 03:20 PM
if i were a girl i would give my pussy to you all, you worth it !...
- i hope that would change girls mind and they would give us in a good sex party -
....btw, what the hell was that thread about ?
your pussy is about to get stretched buddy, i gotta stick it in. it's the only way...
Quote from: Nebontha on May 14, 2009, 04:46 PM
Quotei love nebontha Smiley
also
defthe1s
vesanic
deftonekid
peniks, lithium.....
.......i can keep go
Wow that's funny, just a few weeks ago I thought you hated me or something LOL.
I like you too, in a brotherly way of course.
I'm very very heterosexual :)
of course brotherly...
Okay it's all good then bruh! 8)
Quote from: Nebontha on May 14, 2009, 07:05 PM
Okay it's all good then bruh! 8)
yeah...you are so cute ;D ;D
*Shifts uncomfortable in chair*
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: rock_n_frost on May 13, 2009, 08:45 PM
lucky vesanic, but i don't believe you jaja 8)
You should, dude.
Damn this is the gay thread.
Quote from: Vesanic on May 15, 2009, 04:11 AM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on May 13, 2009, 08:45 PM
lucky vesanic, but i don't believe you jaja 8)
You should, dude.
no what we should - is not to give a shit,this is a deftones board. put that shit in your diaries
Quote from: Vesanic on May 15, 2009, 04:32 AM
Damn this is the gay thread.
+1
i dont mind gay humour.. but this is just plain gay without the humour
well now this is a gay thread lol.
you two come together like fries and ketchup
Quote from: No More Sugar on May 15, 2009, 12:46 PM
well now this is a gay thread lol.
you two come together like fries and ketchup
(http://www.eastcoastsurf.com/surftalk2/image.php?u=16865&dateline=1180318090)
he's such a funny guy haha
Quote from: Nebontha on May 14, 2009, 01:43 AM
Quote1. The Boys Republic
2. Moana
3. Damone
4. Fist
5. Riviere
without hidden tracks:
1. Pink maggit
2. Fireal
2. Mx
2. Moana
3. Riviere
that is one complete list, ese
still knida the last tracks on theose albums buddy
Deftones taking the yr off to finish Eros,New album 2016
not taking year off that rollingstone interview was from last year but was held over with the postponment of the album
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 12, 2009, 02:46 AM
I'll always be excited for new Deftones material. There is nothing quite like hearing one of their songs for the first time.
I agree. I have been listening since Adrenaline and every album that comes out is super special to me
deftones to me is like a drug...so anything new is good for me...the suspense of EROS is intense....i can't fucking wait to hear that fucking album.
Did I miss anything, or has the release of Eros somehow been confirmed? :o Wait, now I'm confused. Would be quite a big thing for me, though. Double album would be even better, haha. 8)
Deftones new album summer 2015 8)
New album on the way for 2015 :
Quote
Deftones have spent the better part of 2014 alternating between the road and taking time to let inspiration strike during a series of writing sessions. Luckily for fans who are craving new Deftones material, the latter has been consuming their time.
In a new post, the band revealed that they're back in the studio writing new music, but during one of their recent sessions, a special guest dropped by. Legendary Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward turned up and the band couldn't pass up the chance for a photo op. You can check out their posting on the matter below:
Post by Deftones.
It's not known if Ward was simply dropping by for a few niceties or if he contributed in any way to the music that Deftones are currently working on.
As stated, Deftones have been alternating between touring and the studio. They returned to the studio earlier this spring before setting aside a two-week writing period in late October. The group is working on the follow-up to 2012′s 'Koi No Yokan' album. It's expected that a new disc will turn up in 2015.
The band is already starting to map out the upcoming year, having already signed on to play the first-ever U.S. edition of the Rock in Rio Festival in Las Vegas. The event will play out over the weekends of May 8-9 and 15-16, with Deftones joining Metallica, Linkin Park, Rise Against, Sepultura, Coheed & Cambria and others. For additional details, click here.
http://loudwire.com/deftones-resume-writing-new-album-bill-ward/ (http://loudwire.com/deftones-resume-writing-new-album-bill-ward/)
I hope they go more experimental. Last two albums sound pretty much the same they usually try to go left of what everyone is thinking.
Quote from: deftones86 on Nov 25, 2014, 12:10 PM
I hope they go more experimental. Last two albums sound pretty much the same they usually try to go left of what everyone is thinking.
I felt like Diamond Eyes had a great string of really heavy tracks followed by that Spacey sound you hear on SNW. KNY had it's moments but mostly it just reminded me of a less electronic, more rock sounding crosses album. They've stated that EROS was dark and depressing (which they also said about self titled) and that makes me excited for it's release. Their new album I'm sure will be good but I don't know if we can really expect much of anything considering how many genres/sound types they tend to cover.