With the disappearance of topics in this part of the board, the Dredg thread also dissapeared.
So, let's start a new one to talk about/dicuss/praise this band and share online pictures/videos/music.
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_5fc550a1cc554ae9abc2605d002808ea.jpg)
This band is awesome. Wish they'd tour Canada. I'd see them in a heartbeat. ;D
I really like The Pariah..., at first I wasn't too keen on it, but after a few listens, it's beautiful.
Can't we just call the thread "dredg"? We have waaaaaaaay too many "The >insert band name< Thread" threads.
Quote from: theis on Dec 13, 2009, 12:36 AM
Can't we just call the thread "dredg"? We have waaaaaaaay too many "The >insert band name< Thread" threads.
Naaaaah ;D It's a clear and sure way to find everything about Dredg (or any other band) in such a topic. Kinda dig it, plus always thought of it as an unwritten standard to compile all specific band info in one topic.
Haha, I think you misunderstood me. I think it's cool witth a dredg thread. I just wanted to rename it to just "dredg".
Not like it's super important or anything. No worries :D
Quote from: theis on Dec 14, 2009, 04:06 PM
Haha, I think you misunderstood me. I think it's cool witth a dredg thread. I just wanted to rename it to just "dredg".
Not like it's super important or anything. No worries :D
No I I didn't misunderstand. Everything I said above is about the 'the' bandname 'thread' :)
I think we should have a The The The Thread.
Quote from: defskull on Dec 14, 2009, 09:51 PM
I think we should have a The The The Thread.
hah! good one ;D
After listening through the pariah, the parrot, the delusion a few times today, i've concluded that it is a work of genius. Their best album so far.
I rarely listen to it now.
El Cielo for me, foreveeeeeer
i was just paging through a copy of the new high times that my friend let me borrow, and so far there were some great stories. but anyway. i get about 15 pages in, and there you have it, an article on dredg
the article was mostly about drews love for pot, and how he smokes just about everyday, he said that the other band members only puff sometimes.. decent little article, but really cool they are even getting noticed by high times
also, they start the article by saying.. radiohead isnt the only creative band left nowadays..
pretty awesome stuff
Could you maybe scan the article and upload it?
Quote from: theis on Jan 21, 2010, 07:05 PM
Could you maybe scan the article and upload it?
yea that sounds like a great article.
haha badass!
Quote from: theis on Jan 21, 2010, 07:05 PM
Could you maybe scan the article and upload it?
i dont have a scanner.. the photo used on the high times page is the one of the band in the backseat of a taxi.. anyway. id scan it if i could, but i dont have a scanner.. its inside this copy of high times
http://hightimes.com/userdata/24/images/24_01_covermar10.jpg (http://hightimes.com/userdata/24/images/24_01_covermar10.jpg)
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jan 21, 2010, 06:38 PM
the article was mostly about drews love for pot, and how he smokes just about everyday, he said that the other band members only puff sometimes.. decent little article, but really cool they are even getting noticed by high times
dude, you have got to scan it for us :)
Damn that is one sexy bubbler on the cover, surrounded by dankness.
found this today and thought I'd share this with the few cool people left over here
here is a video of Dredg playing The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion and some other songs.
video is proshot from last year in Germany 11/1/09
http://iload.to/title/158232-Dredg---Live-At-Visions-Festival-Dortmund--11-01-2009-/ (http://iload.to/title/158232-Dredg---Live-At-Visions-Festival-Dortmund--11-01-2009-/)
so i looked at that article again in the high times that i was talking about in my earlier posts.. and i didnt notice that in the bottom of the picture, towards teh front of the taxi that they are sitting in, is an ash tray with a lit joint, and next to it is a prescription bottle filled with weed, with broken up weed laying next to the bottle. thought it was pretty cool
From their European tour. Filmed by Drew.
mollycoddle, a prank and a cackle..m4v (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tK78XEejY0#ws)
I listened to Pariah.. stoned the other night. It's a really, really solid album. The production is amazing. So layered and three dimensional. I enjoyed it when it came out, but I think later on, listening to it randomly, i appreciated it more. It's great.
Drew made a Chi Cheng mini replica.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/theisbj17/73235949.jpg)
Quote from: theis on Feb 27, 2010, 12:42 PM
From their European tour. Filmed by Drew.
mollycoddle, a prank and a cackle..m4v (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tK78XEejY0#ws)
i love the practical joke
Such an amazing live band.
Tonedef you are spot on.
I posted this in the last thread, beautiful stuff:
dredg - lightswitch (live multicam) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CyWi_LScaA&feature=related#)
Quote from: ToneDef on Feb 27, 2010, 01:11 PM
I listened to Pariah.. stoned the other night. It's a really, really solid album. The production is amazing. So layered and three dimensional. I enjoyed it when it came out, but I think later on, listening to it randomly, i appreciated it more. It's great.
i must be honest, i enjoyed the album the most the first time i heard it.
i still really like the record. but it sounded the best when i heard it for the first time, and thats strange because its usually the opposite for me, usually i hear something for the first time and think its okay, then go on to listen again and absolutely love it.
but with pariah i loved it on first listen, much like el cielo.. i do like pariah, alot... but its not my favorite dredg record by any means
from theprp:
dredg will be celebrating the 11 year anniversary of their "Leitmotif" outing with a vinyl re-release next month. In addition, the band will be embarking on a May Californian tour which will find the band performing the aforementioned album in its entirety.
SOMEHOW I need to get the vinyl of Leitmotif.
I wish this band would come to Canada... :(
Funny interview with Drew: http://www.nolivelost.com/?p=613 (http://www.nolivelost.com/?p=613)
Check out Drew's shirt:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/theisbj17/drewchi.jpg)
:)
nice :)
Can't we make a petition for them to release songs like 'Holding On A Remedy Potion'?
Just heard that snippet again...it's wonderfull.
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Apr 05, 2010, 03:28 PM
Quote from: ToneDef on Feb 27, 2010, 01:11 PM
I listened to Pariah.. stoned the other night. It's a really, really solid album. The production is amazing. So layered and three dimensional. I enjoyed it when it came out, but I think later on, listening to it randomly, i appreciated it more. It's great.
i must be honest, i enjoyed the album the most the first time i heard it.
i still really like the record. but it sounded the best when i heard it for the first time, and thats strange because its usually the opposite for me, usually i hear something for the first time and think its okay, then go on to listen again and absolutely love it.
but with pariah i loved it on first listen, much like el cielo.. i do like pariah, alot... but its not my favorite dredg record by any means
It is my favourite, it sounds just more thought out to me if you get what I'm saying? Maybe the production helps on that avenue too, as TD is right, it is phenomenal.
I am wondering if dredg will release something new in 2010/2011
Quote from: lostpilot on May 11, 2010, 03:33 PM
I am wondering if dredg will release something new in 2010/2011
They're rehearsing something, so that could be a good sign.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/theisbj17/98709787.jpg)
hope your right, theis. it would definitely be a pleasant surprise if they released something this year.
I would love an instrumental album from them with songs in the same vein as Down to the Cellar.
But really, anything new from these guys would make me happy.
Quote from: theis on May 12, 2010, 11:03 AM
I would love an instrumental album from them with songs in the same vein as Down to the Cellar.
But really, anything new from these guys would make me happy.
check out that waterscore ep or whatever it was called.. they have bunch of demo tracks kicking around that are mainly instrumentals. like "fucking smile", and so on
Quote from: Fireal1222 on May 12, 2010, 03:07 PM
Quote from: theis on May 12, 2010, 11:03 AM
I would love an instrumental album from them with songs in the same vein as Down to the Cellar.
But really, anything new from these guys would make me happy.
check out that waterscore ep or whatever it was called.. they have bunch of demo tracks kicking around that are mainly instrumentals. like "fucking smile", and so on
well I wouldn't say they're as enjoyable as 'Down to the Cellar' - mostly because they're a lot more experimental, while 'Cellar' is more of a "general instrumental song type". And yes, I miss the El Cielish dredg with LOTS of instrumental parts, and when the actual focus was on sound. Yes, I may be judgmental, but I've never seen Pariah as a "instrumentally polished" album. There are nice sounds and all, but I just don't feel it the way I did with other albums.
edit: double pooooooooooooooost
Eh, the Waterborne album is pretty boring.
dredg Live @ The Troubadour 5/14 - 5/15 (Leitmotif shows)
Lightswitch
The Canyon Behind Her
Bug Eyes
Stationary Transient
The Ornament
Ode to the Sun
Same ol' Road
Pariah
Down to the Cellar
Horizon
-5 Minute Break-
Symbol Song
Movement I
Lechium
Movement II
Traversing Through the Arctic Cold...
Movement III
Penguins in the Desert
Movement IV
Yatahaze
Movement V
Whole show on mp3: http://el1011.com/dredg/Live20100514TroubV0dredg.zip (http://el1011.com/dredg/Live20100514TroubV0dredg.zip)
Some videos from the concert:
dredg - Movement IV: RR @ The Troubadour 5/15/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a342WKs3dqI#)
dredg - Movement III : Lyndon @ The Troubadour 5/14/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfHQyl_WVOk#)
dredg - Yatahaze/90 Hr. sleep @ The Troubadour 5/15/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8vuq--bKJE#)
dredg - Penguins in the Desert @ The Troubadour 5.15.2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsXbb_ofCgU#)
dredg - Stationary Transient @ The Troubadour 5/14/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNFXsp8ylo#)
dredg - Traversing @ The Troubadour 5/14/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxBg-1thslA#)
Dredg live @ Senator Theatre (pro shot video):
01. Pessimistic
02. Same Ol' Road
03. New Heart Shadow
04. Ode to the Sun
05. Catch Without Arms
06. Pariah
07. RUOK?
08. Ireland
09. Jamais Vu*
10. Lightswitch*
11. Triangle*
12. Long Days and Vague Clues*
13. Savior
14. Sangreal
15. Bug Eyes
16. The Canyon Behind Her
17. Down to the Cellar > Horizon
*Featuring Anton Patzner on Violin and Lewis Patzner on Cello
Download: http://www.hungoverproductions.com/shows/dredg2009-05-16.zip (http://www.hungoverproductions.com/shows/dredg2009-05-16.zip) (right click, save as)
Courtesy of "hungover" from the Traversing boards.
Enjoy!
thanks, Theis :)
ive been on a small dredg kick again.. and i must admit. although they are still a great band... they were def. at their best during the release of el cielo... they had such a dark vibe to them.. i really miss the old visions concerts, and viva overdrive show.. when gavin was still fat and drew still had the long beard
how come did I never notice how awesome Dino is live?
From dredg's Twitter:
"Day one. Record #5". http://yfrog.com/5e9xcfj (http://yfrog.com/5e9xcfj)
Yessssssss!!!
I'm very excited about #5
Quote from: lostpilot on Jun 24, 2010, 04:25 PM
how come did I never notice how awesome Dino is live?
I know the answer :D
it hurts my eyes to watch him, looks like a caveman bashing away on the drums. I like his playing, but he should relax.
Quote from: theis on Jun 24, 2010, 04:33 PM
From dredg's Twitter:
"Day one. Record #5". http://yfrog.com/5e9xcfj (http://yfrog.com/5e9xcfj)
Yessssssss!!!
It gets me wet.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Jun 24, 2010, 10:17 PM
it hurts my eyes to watch him, looks like a caveman bashing away on the drums. I like his playing, but he should relax.
yeah, at moments he is _TOO_ excited, like that drummer from the country something band in a youtube video.
Glad to hear they're picking up the pace for the latest album. Can't wait.
Apparently dredg is aiming for a new album release in FEBRUARY!!!
Fucking crazy!
great news! but that puts the release under 2 years after The Pariah... doesn't this band normally take forever between releases?
so yeah, February, i'll believe it when i see it.
really been getting into El Cielo again and it only makes me like their last album less. don't get me wrong, it's still great. but just as I said back when it was released, I think they're evolving in the wrong direction and I don't like how they're sounding more and more mainstream. I'm not expecting anything different from them this time around, but I'm sure it'll be an enjoyable album nonetheless.
The Pariah, the Parrot, the Delusion was also supposed to come out in 2008...
That's awesome ! Can't wait !
QuoteAugust/September - We will be entering the studio to record our fifth record.
October/November - We will be touring the US.
More details to follow...
-dredg
i just watched a video of the canyon behind her, i hadnt heard the song in a long time and it brought back alot of memories. what a great band.
Quote from: theis on Jul 29, 2010, 11:44 PM
QuoteAugust/September - We will be entering the studio to record our fifth record.
October/November - We will be touring the US.
More details to follow...
-dredg
wow, if that schedule actually holds up we could get some new material early next year!
This band sound quite a lot like Dredg
California Stories Uncovered - XNA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nem4HRJvIg#)
Sounds more like The Cure.
the vocals are kinda annoying really
Very.
"dredg are aiming for a tentative April 2011 release date for their new album which they recently began recording with with musician/producer Dan the Automator at the helm."
http://www.theprp.com/2010/09/06/news/spring-2011-release-date-planned-for-new-dredg-album/ (http://www.theprp.com/2010/09/06/news/spring-2011-release-date-planned-for-new-dredg-album/)
:)
http://www.makeshiftcollective.com/blog/?p=514 (http://www.makeshiftcollective.com/blog/?p=514)
Dan the automator producing new dredg?? This is going to be interesting. cant wait!
would anyone like to buy my signed live at the fillmore lithograph?
Quote from: theis on Sep 07, 2010, 08:33 PM
http://www.makeshiftcollective.com/blog/?p=514 (http://www.makeshiftcollective.com/blog/?p=514)
that video is dope, dredg are so fucking filthy live and that really captures the atmosphere well.
also, seeing them live with circa survive and codeseven in November. fucking STOKED.
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Oct 10, 2010, 07:40 PM
Quote from: theis on Sep 07, 2010, 08:33 PM
http://www.makeshiftcollective.com/blog/?p=514 (http://www.makeshiftcollective.com/blog/?p=514)
that video is dope, dredg are so fucking filthy live and that really captures the atmosphere well.
also, seeing them live with circa survive and codeseven in November. fucking STOKED.
Yea, I think I might check them out when they come to Houston. It all depends on how long their setlist is, since Circa Survive is headlining.
Theis thanks dude for sharing that vid! Shit was so sick. I'd give anything to be able to play the piano and drums at the same time like that. I forget their drummers name but he's absolutely fantastic. They all are really!
Is that video like part of something bigger that'll be released? I would absolutely buy it
Quote from: theprpdredg look to have signed with Superball Music for the release of their as-yet untitled new album. A recent press release has revealed that the band have finished work on the effort with producer Dan The Automator and are aiming for a spring 2011 release date.
Dredg - new song at Cat's Cradle 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmSKRMgeL1A#ws)
Hmm, not sure if I'm feeling it.
doesn't sound bad at all, it's got a kind of Zeppelin-like sound to it.
Dredg have signed to Superball Records
:)!
http://yfrog.com/5spfpkj (http://yfrog.com/5spfpkj)
Hahaha.
Quote from: theis on Oct 21, 2010, 12:03 AM
Dredg - new song at Cat's Cradle 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmSKRMgeL1A#ws)
Hmm, not sure if I'm feeling it.
yeah they played this song when i saw them open for circa survive last week...
theyre sounding quite poppy/dancy. it kinda blows
Album is finished. http://plixi.com/p/55157115 (http://plixi.com/p/55157115)
So excited.
Quote from: wither-I on Nov 01, 2010, 03:13 PM
Quote from: theis on Oct 21, 2010, 12:03 AM
Dredg - new song at Cat's Cradle 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmSKRMgeL1A#ws)
Hmm, not sure if I'm feeling it.
yeah they played this song when i saw them open for circa survive last week...
theyre sounding quite poppy/dancy. it kinda blows
Yeah but that's what i thought when i heard savior for the first time
and saviour still sucks
I love Saviour.
Anyways, I'm not entirely hooked on the new song (love the Zeppelin'ish riff though), but I'm sure I'll like it more once I hear a proper studio recording.
I, for one, am fucking pumped for this new album.
It'll take some take to drag me back into the dredg-zone, but it's only a matter of time - It should all be good when the new album is out.
Quote from: wither-I on Nov 08, 2010, 02:24 PM
and saviour still sucks
Yeah it's probably still my least favorite song on the album, but that's pretty much my point. The rest of that cd turned out to be great.
Christ, hate a little more, plz. You sound mad cool.
my hate is very cool im glad you noticed
Quote from: black coffee on Nov 08, 2010, 02:41 PM
It'll take some take to drag me back into the dredg-zone, but it's only a matter of time - It should all be good when the new album is out.
most definitely. seems like they really cranked this one out.
Quote from: wither-I on Nov 08, 2010, 11:38 PM
my hate is very cool im glad you noticed
Indeed. Keep it up, you shining maverick of internet trolls, you.
haha
Don't judge the new song via that video. Saw the song live on Saturday and it's phenomenal. You will all love the new material. Jazzy...
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Nov 09, 2010, 07:11 PM
You will all love the new material. Jazzy...
Are you saying that you've already heard the new album?
I plead the 13th step
(sorry, APC on my mind)
Hmm, I have no idea about what you mean, but I take that as a "yes".
Ya lucky bastard.
shaaaaaarrrrrreeee pleeeeeeeeaaaassse
I can't think of a better or more loyal group of dredg fans to share it with *bats eyelashes*
Or they simply played a couple new songs at the show he attended?
Quote from: black coffee on Nov 10, 2010, 09:41 AM
Or they simply played a couple new songs at the show he attended?
Maybe. But I know that Jon works at the same label that dredg just signed to. That's why I was making the assumption that he'd already heard it.
I agree with the Saviour point, all the rest is ricokoulously good.
Nice video, I like a lot.
EDIT
Dredg - New Song "Upon Returning" (live) - Oct 19th : Carrboro, NC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze9fhxX5oRE&NR=1#ws)
HD; bit bassy.
Woah, they're coming out with a new album!? Sweet, loved their last one.
New Dredg Interview about their new album and their new record label.
http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/11/09/vince-neilstein-interviews-dredgs-gavin-hayes/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/11/09/vince-neilstein-interviews-dredgs-gavin-hayes/)
Wait a second they're touring with Codeseven? Dammit not fair!
Codeseven + Circa Survive + Animals As Leaders + dredg = Probably the best tour EVER
I sold my ticket for that show that i bought four months ago because my professor is batshit fucking insane with his assignments and tests. Couldn't be more distraught.
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Nov 12, 2010, 11:15 PM
I sold my ticket for that show that i bought four months ago because my professor is batshit fucking insane with his assignments and tests. Couldn't be more distraught.
Oh, man. That's horrible.
http://ymarksthespot.org/2010/11/07/y-spy-dredg-strips-down/ (http://ymarksthespot.org/2010/11/07/y-spy-dredg-strips-down/)
Great interview. So excited to hear this album.
Another interview.
http://idobi.com/news/2010/11/interview-gavin-hayes-of-dredg/ (http://idobi.com/news/2010/11/interview-gavin-hayes-of-dredg/)
Reading about the new album does not really make me happy.. 'dark pop'.. fuck dark pop. I want desert-ish light progressive rock, why did they depart from 'El Cielo' SO far?
People will never get over it that dredg play the music they want to play, not the music anyone is expecting from them. I remember a show where people shouted song titles towards the band in-between songs, in hope they would play these songs, and you could see they were not happy about that... What were people expecting them to do? Play a special show where they play everyones favorite songs? That's just ridiculous.
Okay then, I am slightly disappointed that their personal artistic view-point is changing towards shitty dark pop.
Let's not judge the album before we hear it, k? ;)
Sure, sure. Still, they've lost me years ago..
A new album? Didnt really expect it happen this soon. Oh well, considering that I heard about it just 2 minutes ago, I can say that I am at least excited to hear it. Havent really listened to dredg in months, maybe even half a year, just some random songs here and there popping up from my random playlist.
Interview with Drew and Gavin: http://www.themusiciantimes.com/interviews.html (http://www.themusiciantimes.com/interviews.html)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs798.ash1/168807_1699943012588_1058297902_1881494_6931502_n.jpg)
april? yeah right, i'll believe it when i see it leak.
It's from Gavin's twitter...hmm.
so there's hope haha
NYC - Mindrelic Timelapse (http://vimeo.com/18554749)
Sick, thanks for posting!
the guy who shot this video is from my hometown, Rochester, NY. the other videos he has done in Rochester are also amazing. nice and refreshing videos with pretty good music.
that's pretty tight.
the dillinger escape plan wrote this on facebook:
"so who here likes Dredg?"
any chance dredg will join the deftones/dillinger escape plan tour? if yes, then HOLY SHIT. i'm buying a ticket to the us then.
Yeah I know. I was looking at flights to LA or San Francisco from UK and shits expensive. I might just buy a ticket and see if I can afford the flights a bit later...
that tour would be sick. first time deftones and dredg did a tour together since 2003...yikes!!
if there is a god, he will put dredg on this tour.
Quote from: saltinut1 on Feb 02, 2011, 04:41 AM
that tour would be sick. first time deftones and dredg did a tour together since 2003...yikes!!
04 you mean? i saw deftones/dredg in oct 04. i think i was the only one in the crowd who enjoyed dredg
I'm going to buy ticket for the Los Angeles Deftones show and just hope that Dredg will be on it. Now I've got to look for Hotels and flights to LA from London.
saw dredg and deftones july03 :(
Quote from: theis on Jan 07, 2011, 01:24 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs798.ash1/168807_1699943012588_1058297902_1881494_6931502_n.jpg)
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/135/l_a097e39a290d4c0593badfe4fe8fa941.jpg)
It might say something different next month, too, but I'm quite optimistic about it being released around the middle of the year or so. Sweet.
QuoteOur 5th studio album "Chuckles & Mr. Squeezy" to be released May 3rd in the US. April 29 in all other territories.
(http://a.yfrog.com/img640/9017/244to.jpg)
:D
well that's an original title and album art
What the fuck...
I suspect even a farther departure from the mystical and magical El Cielo..
Disappointment.
are they going to sound like slipknot?
Haha!
I don't really know what to expect this time around. The album title and cover art is a complete 180 compared to their other albums. I kinda like that they're fucking with our minds like this. No one has any clue as to how this album will sound like.
But they do their own thing, and I've enjoyed everything they put out, so I haven't exactly lost faith or anything. They've earned my trust.
I can't wait to hear this album. Ever since I heard Dan the Automator was producing I knew it would be way different from the rest of their stuff.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Feb 19, 2011, 06:56 PM
I can't wait to hear this album. Ever since I heard Dan the Automator was producing I knew it would be way different from the rest of their stuff.
The guy did the Deltron 3030 album, Peeping Tom, the first Gorillaz. Enough reasons for me to think this new dredg will still be pretty damn good.
I'll be looking forward to checking this album out. It's going to sound more raw and direct, than overproduced like their previous albums, which is awesome also. That chick has some nice legs. Too bad that mask ruins the look. lol
turns out im friends with the girl on the cover. small world.
Honestly, I think that album cover is better than the ugly Catch Without Arms cover.
What is up with dredg lately? I thought their last album was trash, save a few moments. The title of this album and the cover isn't giving me much hope either. I adored El Cielo and liked Catch Without Arms, but this might e the last chance I am willing to give dredg before I write them off.
Wah wah waaahh.
Quote from: theis on Feb 20, 2011, 10:57 PM
Wah wah waaahh.
They've simplified their songwriting and that's what separated them from the rest of the pack, in my opinion. I hope DTM helps them revisit this, but I'm skeptical. Nonetheless, I hope they surprise me.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Feb 19, 2011, 06:56 PM
I can't wait to hear this album. Ever since I heard Dan the Automator was producing I knew it would be way different from the rest of their stuff.
same here. This is going to be the most experimental, unorthodox album by them. I hope they never make el cielo pt. 2 even though it is my favorite album by them. All dredg albums are great and have their own unique style. Cant wait for this to drop.
Their single "The Thought Of Losing You" is hitting stores two weeks prior to the album, on April 15th.
April 25th. YEAAAHH!
More details have emerged on dredg's forthcoming new album "Chuckles And Mr. Squeezy" (due out May 03rd through Superball Music.) In addition to confirming that this will be the cover art for the release, a number of track titles and more were revealed in the following press release:
"The alternative rock band dredg from San Francisco can note a constantly growing number of followers and lovers since they decided to play music together more than 15 years ago, in 1995.
As there have been several rumors on the Internet recently about the successor of THE PARIAH, THE PARROT, THE DELUSION we are now happy to announce that dredg are finally going to release their fifth studio album CHUCKLES AND MR. SQUEEZY in late April/early May in Europe (outside of G/S/A) and on May 3, 2011 the U.S. Those who are expecting the record to be a consistent continuance of THE PARIAH, THE PARROT, THE DELUSION will no doubt be surprised: this album is completely different from everything dredg have ever done before.
It took the band members almost eight months of exchanging song-material via e-mail to finish the album–a process producer Dan The Automator (Gorillaz, Kasabian, etc.) was also involved in right from the early beginnings. His influence becomes most apparent in the songs "The Tent," "Sun Goes Down" and "Before it Began" where he also took an active part in the songwriting.
Even though there is a lot of variation in tones and tempo, singer Gavin sums up the general sound of CHUCKLES AND MR. SQUEEZY as "Dark Pop": a dark undertone is giving the songs some kind of a contemplative self-analysis – but in the end the album is still characterized by its optimism. "There is a certain darkness to it," Gavin agrees. "A lot of our music is ultimately positive but can be conceived as sad as well. It has these two sides that oppose each other, but manage to reconcile in the music."
With CHUCKLES AND MR. SQUEEZY dredg is breaking new grounds in their career – in a new, yet unexplored direction. The influence Dan The Automator had on this record is obvious. His status as a producer and co-worker lead him to an additional role as a guide, giving the band the impulse to work harder, to take a closer look at themselves and finally take this as an inspiration for creating their music and lyrics.
The last 15 years of development brought dredg to an unexpected, yet welcomed point in their career. "For me this is a renewal kind of record," Gavin says. "It feels different and in some ways it feels like a new band. That was my goal when working with the band and with Dan–to make something we'd never done. Hopefully people can see the band in a new light. We can mold to different things and there is a future for the band when it comes to creating."
Tour dates for 2011 will be announced soon."
http://www.theprp.com/2011/02/22/news/more-details-revealed-for-dredgs-chuckles-and-mr-squeezy/ (http://www.theprp.com/2011/02/22/news/more-details-revealed-for-dredgs-chuckles-and-mr-squeezy/)
Awesome.that just made me 100% more excited for this.
I still think it's going to sound like PARIAH just a bit more darker but i hope i'm wrongggg
I just wanna hear new music from my favorite band. That's all. And I'm sure it'll be pleasing to my ears.
They're using the term Dark pop, yet say the album won't sound like The Pariah...
WEIRD.
haha thats exactly what I was thinking.
Whatever, it'll be good.
SCENE DISCOGRAPHY UPDATE
Dredg-10_New_Songs-Live_Sampler-2004-FjC
Dredg-Brushtrokes-(Demo)-2001-SNX_iNT
Dredg-Bug_Eyes-(7inch)-2005-MTD
Dredg-Bug_Eyes-(Promo_CDM)-2005-MTD
Dredg-Campbell_CA_1013_(Acoustic)-2002-SGE_iNT
Dredg-Catch_Without_Arms-(Advance)-2005-RNS
Dredg-Catch_Without_Arms-(European_Retail)-2005-PtE_iNT
Dredg-Catch_Without_Arms-(German_Retail)-2005-MTD
Dredg-Catch_Without_Arms-(Promo)-Read_NFO-2005-EdN
Dredg-Connect_Sets-Acoustic_EP-2005-PTE
Dredg-Conscious-(EP)-1996-NG
Dredg-Conscious-Demo-1996-NGR
Dredg-El_Cielo-2002-DNR
Dredg-El_Cielo_(Advance)-2002-PMS
Dredg-El_Cielo_Retail-2002-aPC
Dredg-El_Cielo-Limited_Edition-2002-TBR
Dredg-Extended_Play_For_The_Eastern_Hemisphere-2002-KSi
Dredg-Industry_Demos-2001-KSi_iNT
Dredg-Information-(CDS)-2009-WRE
Dredg-Leitmotif-1998-EOS
Dredg-Leitmotif_Re-Release-2001-PMS _iNT
Dredg-Live_At_The_Fillmore-2006-ESC
Dredg-Live_At_The_Henry_Fonda_Theatre-(Promo_DVD)-2005-MTD
Dredg-Live_At_Visions_Festival_Dortmund_(Germany)-SAT-11-01-2009-gF
Dredg-Live_In_Stuttgart_Germany_1126-(Bootleg)-2005-PMS
Dredg-Omaha_NE_0505-2005-EOS
Dredg-Orph_(EP)-1997-PMS
Dredg-The_Pariah_The_Parrot_The_Delusion-2009-FNT
Dredg-Vancouver_BC_0227-2003-EOS
PART I (http://www.fileserve.com/file/fzKFRAN/Dredg-Collection.part1.rar)
PART II (http://www.fileserve.com/file/mgyGJaE/Dredg-Collection.part2.rar)
PART III (http://www.fileserve.com/file/xA2YEzX/Dredg-Collection.part3.rar)
PART IV (http://www.fileserve.com/file/X9gxAZz/Dredg-Collection.part4.rar)
you know you love me.
Wow
Some of that stuff I didnt know existed
Thanks
"You need to wait 1200 seconds to start another download."
Arrgghhhharghhhh urrghhhhh,
Quote from: theis on Mar 01, 2011, 07:32 PM
"You need to wait 1200 seconds to start another download."
Arrgghhhharghhhh urrghhhhh,
for some reason here in chile (southamerica) we dont need to wait anything inbetween downloads...wich is pretty cool. plus the download speed is fairly decent.
http://whereischuckles.tumblr.com/ (http://whereischuckles.tumblr.com/)
epic
Drew is such a weirdo, haha.
Haha awesome.
Looks like I'll be seeing them live again in Houston.
dredg will kick off a headlining tour with The Dear Hunter, Balance And Composure and Trophy Fire in early May. The official press release for the tour, which also provides more insight into the bands new album "Chuckles And Mr. Squeezy" (due May 03rd through Superball Music, can be found below:
"May 3 is going to be a special day for dredg, with the launch of the first round of headlining tour dates (along with The Dear Hunter, Balance and Composure, and Trophy Fire) and the release of their Dan The Automator-produced CHUCKLES AND MR. SQUEEZY on Superball Music.
The songs on CHUCKLES AND MR. SQUEEZY are largely based in rhythm, some of them heavy on loops, an influence clearly drawn from Dan, clearly evident on tracks such as "Upon Returning," "The Thought of Losing You," and "The Ornament." Although the tones and pacing shift as the album progresses, the songs all fall under the category of what singer Gavin Hayes calls "dark pop."
"The Thought of Losing You," driven by a surging guitar riff, achieves emotional depth through simplicity rather than over-complication while "Upon Returning" pairs rough-edged guitars with Gavin's ambient vocals that soar in juxtaposition with the grinding instrumentals. A shadowed mood hovers under the music, lending a sense of pensive introspection to the songs, but in the end the album emerges as a beacon of optimism.
For nearly eight months, beginning last winter, the band members—-Gavin Hayes (vocals, guitars), Drew Roulette (bass, samples), Mark Engles (guitars) and Dino Campanella (drums, keyboards)–sent songs back and forth over e-mail, allowing the tracks to slowly build and layer under individual microscopes.
Producer Dan the Automator was brought into the process early, imbuing the entire development with a distinct sense of collaboration that married dredg's signature style with Dan's visionary approach. "I had a deal with them," Dan says.
"I said, 'I'm going to make a bunch of tracks for you guys and whatever you do has to be better than these tracks or they're going to be the album.' I felt like setting a bar for them. dredg has been a band that's been around for a long time and they're comfortable with each. I wanted to shake them out of familiar habits and patterns."
Part of this fresh approach arrived during the recording process, a relatively short period of time that forced the band to feel the sensations of their music rather than spend too much time perfecting them. The group spent two days at Studio Trilogy in San Francisco and one day at David Chloe's art studio in Los Angeles.
recording in September and did the rest of the work at Dan's home studio in the Bernal Heights neighborhood of San Francisco. The sessions were casual, focused on urging emotion from the music, with both spontaneity and rawness in the recorded takes. The band even used sounds from the demoing process on the actual album tracks, an extraordinary new method for them.
"For me this a renewal kind of record," Gavin says. "It feels different and in some ways it feels like a new band. That was my goal when working with the band and with Dan was to make something we'd never done. Hopefully people can see the band in a new light. We can mold to different things and there is a future for the band when it comes to creating.""
Dates for the bands aforementioned headlining run can be found below:
05/03 Los Angeles, CA – Roxy
05/04 Los Angeles, CA – Roxy
05/05 San Francisco, CA – Great American Music Hall
05/06 San Francisco, CA – Great American Music Hall
05/07 Sacramento, CA – Ace of Spades
05/10 Salt Lake City, UT – Avalon Theatre
05/11 Denver, CO – Marquis Theatre
05/13 St. Louis, MO – The Firebird
05/14 Chicago, IL – The Bottom Lounge
05/15 Pontiac, MI – The Eagle Theatre
05/16 Cleveland Heights, OH – Grog Shop
05/18 Boston, MA – Paradise Rock Club
05/19 New York, NY – Highline Ballroom
05/20 Philadelphia, PA – The Trocadero
05/21 Baltimore, MD – Bourbon Street
05/23 Atlanta, GA – The Masquerade
05/25 New Orleans, LA – House of Blues
05/26 Houston, TX – The Studio @ Warehouse Live
05/27 Austin, TX – Emo's
05/28 Dallas, TX – Granada Theatre
source: http://www.theprp.com/2011/03/07/news/dredg-reveal-may-headlining-run-with-the-dear-hunter-balance-and-composure-etc/ (http://www.theprp.com/2011/03/07/news/dredg-reveal-may-headlining-run-with-the-dear-hunter-balance-and-composure-etc/)
A+
So they might be here for the Summer festivals and a few off-dates!
[/Optimism]
Track-listing:
1. Another Tribe
2. Upon Returning
4. The Tent
5. Somebody is Laughing
6. Down Without a Fight
7. The Ornament
8. The Thought of Losing You
9. Kalathat
10. Sun Goes Down
11. Where I'll End Up
12. Before it Began
No Canadian dates. Do not like :(
New dredg Song Available For Streaming
A new dredg song by the name of "The Thought Of Losing You" has been making the rounds online lately and can be heard below. The track is expected to appear on the bands new album "Chuckles And Mr. Squeezy", which is scheduled for a May 05th release date.
http://www.theprp.com/2011/03/13/news/new-dredg-song-available-for-streaming/ (http://www.theprp.com/2011/03/13/news/new-dredg-song-available-for-streaming/)
It's ok.. Not groundbreaking, or anything like that, but I'll jam to it for now, until the new album comes out. Hopefully it's just a filler song.
DL Links:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ncfmco (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ncfmco) 320 kbps
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9N8RQPO6 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9N8RQPO6) 128kps
(http://www.ohfancy.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Dredg.jpg)
Really bland song. It's not awful, but it's completely underwhelming.
Yeah, let's hope it's a filler/typical radio single.
Edit: 320kbps link - http://www.sendspace.com/file/ncfmco (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ncfmco)
Edit 2: Okay this song is already growing on me. It's simple, yes, but there's something "pretty" about it. Really dig the chorus.
That was probably the worst song they have ever written, damn...
Dredg is amazing.....this song is not.
Now I'm getting a bad feeling about this collab with Dan the Automator..
Sounds like dredg to me.
Badass bassline.
Shit. About a minute into this song and I'm thinking; "Just press El Cielo to vinyl and maybe call it a day or at least try to be better than this." Last album was disappointing. CWA was a little lackluster. Steadily getting less good. Its sad. I really loved these guys for a while. There's evolution and then there's devolution. This feels like the latter. I hate to say it and I'm drunk right now so who knows how things will look tomorrow but this is not dredg quality. That was the fastest three and a half minutes of my life and it was not very good.
This song is 10 times better than Saviour. Remember when that song came out? Everyone was bitching about it and saying how much TPTPTD would suck and that ended up being an amazing album.
here are two new promotion pictures in high quality
http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgCorp4072.jpg (http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgCorp4072.jpg)
http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgRodentPicnic.jpg (http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgRodentPicnic.jpg)
btw did anyone think about that the song "The Ornament" could be the same from the CWA time?
Quote from: theis on Mar 14, 2011, 09:51 AM
This song is 10 times better than Saviour. Remember when that song came out? Everyone was bitching about it and saying how much TPTPTD would suck and that ended up being an amazing album.
I actually like "Saviour" better than this song even with the shitty synth bass. Pariah was a disappointment for me as well. Couldn't get into it. Maybe 5 solid tracks on it. CWA was the beginning of the downfall for this band. When I heard pretty much the entire album (CWA) in live pre-release bootleg renditions, it sounded like it was the perfect follow up to El Cielo but once I got the record and heard how over-polished it was, I started getting a bad feeling about their direction. Pariah wasn't so much over-polished as it was just bland in general. I'm sure a lot of people could refer to El Cielo as bland too but there is just something outstanding in its sense of melody and presentation. "I'm Sorry But Its Over" is kind of a throw away track in the grand scheme of things but still I'd rather listen that than this or Pariah.
Quote from: dawg on Mar 14, 2011, 03:40 PM
here are two new promotion pictures in high quality
http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgCorp4072.jpg (http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgCorp4072.jpg)
http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgRodentPicnic.jpg (http://www.mlk.com/presse/dredg/1271-live_2011/DredgRodentPicnic.jpg)
btw did anyone think about that the song "The Ornament" could be the same from the CWA time?
Yea, they've performed that song live a couple of times. I wonder how the studio version is going to sound.
Dredg - The Ornament (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ8iCQ5wibU#ws)
I like it. Typical radio lead single song. Its good but not great but I think that one time dredg said "when choosing a single, pick the song the band likes the least".
Catchy though.
I actually really like the new song. It definitely sounds like Dan had his hand in it too. Those expecting El Cielo pt. 2 should just stop and accept that they are headed in a very different direction.
New directions are fine. Shitty directions are not.
Of course I'll have to hear the whole thing to judge but I hope the rest is much better than this awful single.
Haha I love how they say that its not gonna sound like the last album and then this new song could be directly from it ;D
Though I did love the last album, but I too, as many others here, have been waiting for something that we're not gonna get.
Anyways, the new song is alright, the album will be good overall, Im sure I will at some point say that I love it, as I love pretty much all the stuff dredg has put out out over the course of all these years, though the feeling is just not the same as it used to be.
A random fact about me and El Cielo: I listened to it for the first six months or so without a second speaker, I think the right one, as I thought that if one of the speakers is out, Im gonna get the whole mix from the other speker. Turned out that wasnt the case and I was not hearing maybe 1/4 or 1/5 of the whole soundscape of the album, like some of the guitars on eg New Heart Shadow were completely disappeared :D But guess what, I adored it even then. You can just imagine how I felt when I got the whole thing with all the sounds into my ears for the first time when I got some new speakers 8)
Share something cool about you an El Cielo, lets reminisce.
i was the first kid in high school to play el cielo for my friends (got it from here) and weeks later there were copies everywhere. same with mars volta.
Quote from: black coffee on Mar 08, 2011, 06:42 PM
So they might be here for the Summer festivals and a few off-dates!
[/Optimism]
06/03 Dortmund - FZW ( + Milhaven and Amplifier )
06/07 Hamburg - Uebel & Gefaehrlich
06/08 Bielefeld - Ringlokschuppen
- june 11/12/13: Nova Rock Festival, Nickelsdorf, Austria
- june 15: Wuhlheide, Berlin, Germany (with System Of A Down)
I'm liking the new song more and more each time I hear it.
It also appears they'll play Rock am Ring / Rock im Park on June 1st and 2nd.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1852613710939&oid=73793389332#w400-h266&comments (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1852613710939&oid=73793389332#w400-h266&comments)
The Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy acid test.
You can hear a little bit of the new album in the background.
Quote from: Menos el Oso on Mar 14, 2011, 12:22 AM
New dredg Song Available For Streaming
dredg.. the band that went from good rock to bad pop :/
^ Yeah, pretty much.
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Mar 15, 2011, 04:29 AM
New directions are fine. Shitty directions are not.
Of course I'll have to hear the whole thing to judge but I hope the rest is much better than this awful single.
Saviour was the first song off of the last album and it sucked.
1. "Another Tribe" 3:46
2. "Upon Returning" 3:55
3. "The Tent" 4:47
4. "Somebody is Laughing" 3:46
5. "Down Without a Fight" 3:53
6. "The Ornament" 3:04
7. "The Thought of Losing You" 3:33
8. "Kalathat" 3:25
9. "Sun Goes Down" 3:48
10. "Where I'll End Up" 3:44
11. "Before it Began" 2:58
Short album...
i heard that the album leaked already but in bad quality?
i don't think the new song is that bad. i mean, i'd rather listen to that than like 95% of the other rock music coming out these days.
Quote from: occipudding on Mar 25, 2011, 04:09 AM
i don't think the new song is that bad. i mean, i'd rather listen to that than like 95% of the The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion
Agreed.
there's certainly those who like the song for song,i get that,but I also believe that there's those who like it / try to like it just because it's dredg.it's like dredg live on past achievements. if the killers would have released this I don't think many would give a damn about it
Quote from: occipudding on Mar 25, 2011, 04:09 AM
i don't think the new song is that bad. i mean, i'd rather listen to that than like 95% of the other rock music coming out these days.
You're crazy.
Quote from: Starz on Mar 25, 2011, 10:08 AM
Quote from: occipudding on Mar 25, 2011, 04:09 AM
i don't think the new song is that bad. i mean, i'd rather listen to that than like 95% of the The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion
Agreed.
THIS is crazy.
Sorry man I just really don't like that album haha but I think the new song is kinda cool
i wish it would just leak, id rather praise/trash the whole album rather than one song.
apparently there is a stream of the new album somwhere because a lot of reviews showed up in the last few days.
Quote from: cesar421 on Apr 06, 2011, 04:05 PM
apparently there is a stream of the new album somwhere because a lot of reviews showed up in the last few days.
Quite a few people over at the Traversing board have the new album, but they wont share it.
Every time dredg releases an album, people over there say they got the album, but won't share it. I couldn't care less for that. Those who REALLY have the album, won't talk about it anyways.
It'll leak soon enough.
Let's hope so.
Until then, heres a new teaser:
Dredg - New HD Video, New Song (2011) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzLAGOlpna0&feature=player_embedded#ws)
Quote from: theis on Apr 06, 2011, 04:29 PM
Quote from: cesar421 on Apr 06, 2011, 04:05 PM
apparently there is a stream of the new album somwhere because a lot of reviews showed up in the last few days.
Quite a few people over at the Traversing board have the new album, but they wont share it.
pompous bastards
How's it any different than going to an advanced screening of a movie a few months before release date? Don't hate on us cause we got axx ;)
its cool, one of you will leak it soon enough.
So, how's the album, Jon?
It's not what you're expecting, I'll tell you what
yeah I heard its nothing like they've done before, and not necessarily in a positive or negative way.
I am actually quite curious
I still don't get this band...
Listen to "Bug Eyes," "The Information" and "18 People Living in Harmony"
Bug eyes was pretty good, can't find the others.
Quote from: Corleone on Apr 06, 2011, 07:09 PM
I still don't get this band...
you should check out the album, leitmotif..
here is one of my favorite tracks from leitmotif.
Dredg - Movement II: Crosswind Minuet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUWf8ZVuU5E#)
just so you are aware. the album leitmotif is pretty rare, and most of the tracktitles on youtube are incorrect, for example, the song in the link i posted is incorrectly labled as "Movement II: Crosswind Minuet". but the song in the link is actually "Traversing Through The Arctic Cold, We Search For The Spirit Of Yuta."
if someone has the stream leak link, send me a pm please..
much respect
matt
ok for realsies, this has to leak today!
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 07, 2011, 01:49 PM
for realsies
sorry man, I had a nice laugh from this particular word.
FOR REALSIES YO
Upon Returning stream: http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/exclusive_stream_dredgs_upon_returning/ (http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/exclusive_stream_dredgs_upon_returning/)
Edit: 30 second streams of the whole album: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chuckles-And-Mr-Squeezy/dp/B004V6FSTC (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chuckles-And-Mr-Squeezy/dp/B004V6FSTC)
I'm...actually digging what I'm hearing. Sounds like a "night" album.
The Tent and Kalathat stood out the most. The Tent sounds a little bit like Radiohead.
Agreed i'm officially down with the new sound its different but its dredg.
I read somewhere that they have material for another album due in about a year, which is supposed to be another different sound from Chuckles.
Upon Returning is catchy, I like it. Same with the 30 seconds of Kalathat. However, Sun Goes Down isn't doing anything for me at all, and I don't know what to think about The Ornament. That's a COMPLETELY new sound from dredg. Whatever, though, I just really want to hear the whole album from start to finish now.
I think Upon Returning is the song they played when my g/f saw them live. nice song.
Yup nice song indeed. I just pre-ordered this right now, and I am seeing them on May 3rd when this comes out in the states.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 07, 2011, 05:53 PM
I read somewhere that they have material for another album due in about a year, which is supposed to be another different sound from Chuckles.
That would be tits, I hope this is true.
this album is good
wow i just listened to the clips on amazon and I have to say regardless of what I read I think I'm really going to like this album. Every track sounds awesome to me.
not yet, ive just heard these 2 songs and the all 30 second previews
I'm going insane. Why won't this just fucking leeeaaaak?
Wanna hear it so bad.
I know, this is getting ri-goddamn-diculous. Part of me feels like shit for begging for an album leak a month in advance, but then there are the insiders that've had it for awhile that are just dangling it in front of us, saying "Oh it'll leak soon, don't worry". I know expectations are kind of low going in, but now there's this anticipation which is going to kill the album for me. I can see it happening.
/end rant
Completely agree with the 'dangling' part. They should have never said anything to begin with. Makes them look like pompous douchebags.
I think its awesome. I know its weird but leaks have become like events for me, its always interesting to see how the more popular ones play out. like this one.
oldnewtype empty ur inbox...
Quote from: rehostia on Apr 08, 2011, 02:25 AM
oldnewtype empty ur inbox...
Please tell me you're sending him a link to dl the disc....
leaked...
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYQR-1imFra79LyZMNPVl_YxGca2GN5Rl41iZ2W-GSynMd-Ae5&t=1)
Gonna listen to the album in a bit.
Will post thoughts later.
I called them out for turning into a pop band with the last album. this one only proves my point further.
Woah, Jacob. Where have you been?
Quote from: rehostia on Apr 08, 2011, 02:25 AM
oldnewtype empty ur inbox...
wow i didnt realize we could only have 10 messages....
Listening now and so far im pretty satisfied.
haha, the verse on the last song is almost exactly like that Leonard Cohen song from Natural Born Killers
It's definitely better than The Pariah but jeez the new record is boringgggggg ::)
yeah some of the tracks get boring and I likely will just keep skipping over them. worst thing they've done, but I can find some stuff to like about it. The Tent, Somebody Is Laughing, Kalathat are all good songs.
but you probably can't take my opinion seriously since overall i believe Pariah was a waaay better album.
Quote from: Starz on Apr 08, 2011, 02:46 PM
It's definitely better than The Pariah
that's just crazy talk!
its not that bad..
the boring things must be the electronic sounds, beats
actually i think another tribe sounds very good
EDIT : You guys can anybody write the lyrics of ''Another Tribe''..i deeply need it
So i see this leaked...
Debating in my mind if I should just wait or download it. Damn.
Listen to it! I wanna hear your thoughts ;)
Listened to the album a few times now.
Another Tribe - pretty good song. the beat reminds me of Coolio's Gangsta's Paradise. Chorus is a little weak.
Upon Returning - ok song. don't care a lot for it.
The Tent - really dig this one. has a very sensual feel to it.
Somebody Is Laughing - also a pretty sweet song. one of the stronger ones on this album.
Down Without a Fight - the most "non-dredg" song. very 80's, very catchy. just...weird. i guess i kinda like it.
The Ornament - beautiful. one of my favorites.
The Thought of Losing You - typical single. not bad, not amazing. ok song.
Kalathat - probably my favorite song on the album...tied with The Ornament.
Sun Goes Down - another decent song. nothing special.
Where I'll End Up - worst song. maybe the worst dredg song ever.
Before It Began - again, good song...not much more.
Consensus: Easily the worst dredg album. I don't hate it, but I sincerely hope that this is just a phase for them. I could imagine it being a pretty good bonfire/chillout album.
To compare:
Leitmotif - 9/10
El Cielo - 10/10
Catch Without Arms - 8/10
The Pariah, the Parrot, the Delusion - 9/10
Chuckles and Mr- Squeezy - 6/10
mmmm maybe ill check
My top 3
1 - The Ornament : Nothing wrong with this song, everything is perfect..
2 - Another trip : Very good, i hope wont get bored of it
3 - The tent : THIS SONG could be the best song of the 2011 for me, but CHORUS part is the stupiest chorus that dredg made ever..god damn i wish someone do the chorus better
The album is slow, electronic, rhythmic, simple, catchy and NOT so special...But good, i like it.
I love electronic rock music and little guitar touches but i would like to hear some classic dredg guitars too..
Gotta say I'm pretty disappointed...
hahahhaahahah i dont see why any of you would waste your time comparing it to anything when its so much better to just listen to it for what it is.
I'm actually really glad you all hate it, makes me feel just a little bit closer to the guys. I love the new dredg and CANNOT WAIT to see them live next month.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Apr 09, 2011, 04:27 AM
hahahhaahahah i dont see why any of you would waste your time comparing it to anything when its so much better to just listen to it for what it is.
I'm actually really glad you all hate it, makes me feel just a little bit closer to the guys. I love the new dredg and CANNOT WAIT to see them live next month.
Cause of this man... I feel horrible... I mean it's good but not as it should be... But the dredg essence is out there... Hiding somewhere...
this album is one of the most cheapass record in sl. yeah you can imagine.
agreed about what a couple of you said about The Tent. definitely one of the few highlights for me, along with Somebody Is Laughing.
but goddamn
Quote from: theis on Apr 09, 2011, 12:11 AM
Where I'll End Up - worst song. maybe the worst dredg song ever.
it's so true. it's almost painful to listen to!
Just pretend it's a covers album of songs you've never heard before. That's what I'm doing. It makes it easier to enjoy the music, without wondering why in the fuck the band would want to move in this direction. I love Dredg, but was Dino cool with being traded-in for a beat-maker? This album sounds more like it could be Gavin's Team Sleep to me.
(http://i.imgur.com/9ciAl.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/vDLG4.jpg)
If only dredg would have done something like this:
Dredg - Holding A Remedy Potion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f629ZGu-A2w#)
That song has potential to be fucking amazing.
The new album is seriously beautiful. Surpassed my mortal expectations.
The new record sounds boring and lazy. To me, sitting at home writing music and then e-mailing the files to other band members so they can work on the part is just a complete NO. They should be all in a room together jamming out ideas. Also, the production sounds so weak, could have been mixed a lot better but I'll wait until I have the physical CD.
Quote from: Starz on Apr 10, 2011, 12:37 AM
The new record sounds boring and lazy. To me, sitting at home writing music and then e-mailing the files to other band members so they can work on the part is just a complete NO. They should be all in a room together jamming out ideas. Also, the production sounds so weak, could have been mixed a lot better but I'll wait until I have the physical CD.
Def agree that the production is off. The vocals are mixed waaaaay to high in the mix, and substituting human interaction for cyber writing is lame as hell so I'm with you on that also, Starz. I can't help but dig the album though... It's their weakest release but enjoyable to my ears nonetheless.
Meshuggah do cyber writing, yet still put out amazing records. Then again that could be a moot point since you guys probably don't like them.
Quote from: Starz on Apr 10, 2011, 12:37 AM
To me, sitting at home writing music and then e-mailing the files to other band members so they can work on the part is just a complete NO.
Thats what Mike Patton and all of the other artists did with Peeping Tom and that came out amazing.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 10, 2011, 03:50 PM
Meshuggah do cyber writing, yet still put out amazing records. Then again that could be a moot point since you guys probably don't like them.
Meshuggah is one of my all time favorite bands, bright.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 10, 2011, 03:50 PM
Meshuggah do cyber writing, yet still put out amazing records. Then again that could be a moot point since you guys probably don't like them.
and yet they never managed to write a record as great as destroy, erase, improve again.
hmm.. I had a bad feeling about the record before it was leaked but it was actually worse than I had Imagined. But dredg will probably always be regarded as great because of the two first records regardless of how much non-good music they release so no immediate danger for them. It's just a shame that they abandoned the guitars for electronic beats and i think the song material is disappointing too. 2:40 to 3:03 in another tribe's is great i think, but other than that i can't find myself reacting in a positive way any other time during listening to it.
And why do they release the ornament once again? didn't they put words on the outro to Matroshka when they toured cwa years ago? it would be more appropriate on a b-side back in 2005-2006, not on a new dredg album.a bit unimaginative for a band like dredg- for the old dredg anyway :) sorry i will go moan somewhere else
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Apr 10, 2011, 04:50 PM
Quote from: Starz on Apr 10, 2011, 12:37 AM
To me, sitting at home writing music and then e-mailing the files to other band members so they can work on the part is just a complete NO.
Thats what Mike Patton and all of the other artists did with Peeping Tom and that came out amazing.
Peeping Tom was ok. Deftones did the same with Saturday Night Wrist and most of that album is shit (imo). I just think a band like Dredg should embrace their musical talents and be in a room together feeding off of each other, much like with the scenario behind Diamond Eyes. They're obviously influenced by a lot of electronica music now days, maybe that's why they chose Dan to help produce it. But the new record comes across sounding like a bunch of guys were sitting at home fucking about with a bunch of toys and e-mailing each other the results. Dredg are better than that. Just sayin'...
they should've just disbanded after el cielo and they would be legendary.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Apr 10, 2011, 08:02 PM
they should've just disbanded after el cielo and they would be legendary.
yep. just like deftones, if they disbanded after white pony.
Quote from: Caín on Apr 10, 2011, 05:44 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 10, 2011, 03:50 PM
Meshuggah do cyber writing, yet still put out amazing records. Then again that could be a moot point since you guys probably don't like them.
and yet they never managed to write a record as great as destroy, erase, improve again.
well you sure are a downer.
New album sucks. I agree, I don't like the production and the album is incredibly boring to me. It was literally a chore to get through it.
Quote from: Caín on Apr 10, 2011, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Crazylegs on Apr 10, 2011, 08:02 PM
they should've just disbanded after el cielo and they would be legendary.
yep. just like deftones, if they disbanded after white pony.
awesome
Quote from: Starz on Apr 08, 2011, 02:46 PM
It's definitely better than The Pariah but jeez the new record is boringgggggg ::)
HA! The last album COMPLETELY DESTROYS the new album and is their best album. Chuckles is a boring piece of garbage.
I don't know what Jacob is talking about with them turning into a pop band with Pariah. Catch Without Arms was more poppy than Pariah.
Quote from: theis on Apr 09, 2011, 12:11 AM
Where I'll End Up - worst song. maybe the worst dredg song ever.
Hahaha, that's hilarious because out of this whole boring album that is the most enjoyable song for me. Honestly. It was one of the very few songs I didn't mind.
Apparently the leak is from a webstream...hence to dodgy production.
Yeah I was going to listen to it, but the file size was way too small, so I didn't even bother. I'll just wait until the release date or until a better quality leak surfaces. This album has been getting a lot of shit, but I think it sounds pretty sweet and fresh from what I heard on Amazon. I agree that it will probably be their worst album,, but nevertheless I do seem to like every record they put out. Each album has its own distinctive sound and I like that. I think Chuckles is just an album they wanted to experiment and have fun with regardless of critic reception.
Cool new interview with Mark. Talks about the past, present and future of dredg.
http://www.examiner.com/local-music-in-los-angeles/dredg-s-mark-engles-talks-new-album-memories-of-sepultura-and-wall-of-guitar (http://www.examiner.com/local-music-in-los-angeles/dredg-s-mark-engles-talks-new-album-memories-of-sepultura-and-wall-of-guitar)
I'm all for experimentation if that leads to something interesting but I just found myself bored out of my mind while listening to this.
Maybe a better leak will help but it can't save this.
This sounds to me like a dance band on a cruise ship between Finland and Sweden, after the bingo and the evening show for the whole family. Now its time for the elderly couples to dance after having some drinks. Some small children are also dancing in front of the stage, holding each others' hands, with glow sticks in their hands. The dance band is happy, they're all smiling, theyre indeed playing the best covers to fit the evening, so that everyone can dance. Some might even dare to ask for a stranger to dance, but just to go on to separate ways after the song is over.
Am I just having a bad day or are others also as disappointed with what theyre hearing right now?
The only songs that I can listen to from the new album is: Another Tribe, Upon Returning, Somebody is Laughing, The Ornament, The Thought of Losing You, and the Sun Goes Down.
The rest I just end up skipping.
I ducking love "Sun Goes Down" and "The Ornament"!!
After the initial disappointed Ive calmed down and will wait for the album to come out, giving it a proper chance. My common theory in pretty much all things in life has been: "If it feels good from day one, it probably wont stay that way for a very long time. If it feels a bit bad from the day one, it might become something awesome in the long run".
Though with music this theory is proven totally correct ever more rarely. Hence for music the theory has been transformed to: "If you love it from day one, you will love it for a long time. If you enjoy it from day one, it might not last for a very long time. If it feels awkward from day one, it might end up being awesome in the long run. If it brings up no emotions from the day one, it will not be something that stays for a long time".
Regarding this odd theory, Im hoping that the new album falls into the third part, as it really felt awkward, and certainly brough up feelings, even if somewhat negative.
We'll see.
Quote from: mr.sinister on Apr 11, 2011, 05:33 PM
Yeah I was going to listen to it, but the file size was way too small, so I didn't even bother. I'll just wait until the release date or until a better quality leak surfaces. This album has been getting a lot of shit, but I think it sounds pretty sweet and fresh from what I heard on Amazon. I agree that it will probably be their worst album,, but nevertheless I do seem to like every record they put out. Each album has its own distinctive sound and I like that. I think Chuckles is just an album they wanted to experiment and have fun with regardless of critic reception.
i hear what you say, but to release a great album that people will buy would still have to be primary to that fact that it's cool to release crap and don't care about what people think. i prefer good music over people who are awesome as persons, in a case like this
Quote from: An bád dubh on Apr 12, 2011, 02:43 PM
Am I just having a bad day or are others also as disappointed with what theyre hearing right now?
um, did you even read the reactions? look around.. your questions will be answered ;)
So seeing all the posts on this thread. You guys have gotten me interested in this band. Never heard them before and I'm willing to give them a shotr just to see what all the love/hate they've been getting. Which album should I start off first with?
Quote from: Sushi-X on Apr 14, 2011, 03:08 AM
So seeing all the posts on this thread. You guys have gotten me interested in this band. Never heard them before and I'm willing to give them a shotr just to see what all the love/hate they've been getting. Which album should I start off first with?
el cielo..
Dredg has about 10 songs that I think are amazing. The rest is just ok.... New album is by far their worst.
i revisited el cielo yesterday and was all "wow, I forgot how incredible this album is"
dredg is starting to remind me of king crimson in the way that all of my friends say they love the band but only listen to one album.
I fucking love catch without arms and parrot, too :)
I hate it when some of their fans only talk about Leitmotif as if it's so above and beyond the rest and can't be touched. I think that album is way overrated amongst Dredg fans and El Cielo and Pariah are clearly better albums.
leitmotif = el cielo = catch without arms = pariah = chuckles.
Thats my opinion.
I don't think even you know what that means.
I agree that Leitmotif is over-rated. Sounds to me like a band who are only just discovering the music they are trully capable of. El Cielo yes is their best album and I'm sure the band themselves agree. But fuck making the same album twice, it's just a shame the new record is such bullshit.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Apr 15, 2011, 07:17 PM
leitmotif = el cielo = catch without arms = pariah = chuckles.
Thats my opinion.
i agree with that order.which means they're just getting worse. I don't think chuckles is a record that gets poorly received in the beginning but then grows over time. I don't think it will get that much worse with time either. how is that even possible ; )
infinite regress
Leitmotif has that horrible song when the guy screams like he's constipated. That's all I need to know. El Cielo for the victory.
Quote from: ben on Apr 16, 2011, 03:59 PM
Leitmotif has that horrible song when the guy screams like he's constipated. That's all I need to know. El Cielo for the victory.
THIS
yes we're all upset that the new record sucks, but we don't need to use those negative angry feelings that comes with it to fight each other
over the old leitmotif vs el cielo quarrel. we need to stick together in tough times like this and comfort each other.please no fighting
listened to el cielo, gotta say they have a good sound/ The vocals just don't do it for me though
Are you crazy?
Probably. Idk, perhaps they will grow on me. Just gotta give it time I guess
The vox on that album are fucking angelic.
Quote from: Sushi-X on Apr 18, 2011, 04:21 AM
Probably. Idk, perhaps they will grow on me. Just gotta give it time I guess
just so you know.. it's not like you HAVE TO love dredg. that would be stupid
well... I really like this band... and all of their previous albums and so... but to be honest.. at first... it was really hard for me to even listen to this album... but now I really dig it... but my girlfriend fell in love with it from first sight... I guess she does believe in love... :)
i feel a loss. this album is terrible. even for a straight pop record its really bad.
finis
Interview with Gavin
http://reviewrinserepeat.com/interview/dredg/2011-04-27 (http://reviewrinserepeat.com/interview/dredg/2011-04-27)
Lara@RRR: Dredg have a pretty intense fanbase. There are some people across Facebook and YouTube saying that since Catch Without Arms, the band has progressively "gotten worse". Why do you think they hold that opinion and what do you say to these fans who seem to just want El Cielo repeated 3 times over?
Gavin Hayes: It makes me laugh because to me our earlier records are very immature and poorly written. They have a great feeling and innocence to them but we will never recreate those records. They are what they are--a moment in time and in our lives that we decided to document musically. Let's face it....people claim they're progressive but they aren't. Nobody likes change. It scares them. It rattles their boring little comfort zone. I don't get why people want to hear the same thing over and over. I thought being "progressive" meant you actually progress? We don't enjoy listening to prog and never really considered ourselves to fall into that category so it only makes sense we are trying to avoid it.
Hey, Menos el Oso; are you also on the Traversing Board? Someone posted that interview there as well.
I listened to the album again yesterday and I will say that I enjoy it for what it is: a collaboration.
Gavin even mentioned in an interview that this was a collab with Dan and not a 100% dredg album. That's why it sounds like it does.
The fact that he's already said that he wants the next album to be guitar-driven is more than enough to make me calm.
i believe if the album had turned out good,then dredg would've gotten all the credit for it no doubt.not much talk by fans that it was a collab.
but when it turned bad then it's a collab and someone else's fault.excuses get made up because dredg is always awesome ^^
Quote from: theis on Apr 29, 2011, 07:32 PM
Hey, Menos el Oso; are you also on the Traversing Board? Someone posted that interview there as well.
I listened to the album again yesterday and I will say that I enjoy it for what it is: a collaboration.
Gavin even mentioned in an interview that this was a collab with Dan and not a 100% dredg album. That's why it sounds like it does.
The fact that he's already said that he wants the next album to be guitar-driven is more than enough to make me calm.
Nah, I'm just a lurker on the board, but yea, I got that link from that site.
Hahaha.
Gavin Hayes: It has nothing to do with change or comfort zone. It has to do with the fact that the new album is boring as shit. It's not interesting in the least. Boring little comfort zone? Your new album is what's boring.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Apr 30, 2011, 02:54 AM
Hahaha.
Gavin Hayes: It has nothing to do with change or comfort zone. It has to do with the fact that the new album is boring as shit. It's not interesting in the least. Boring little comfort zone? Your new album is what's boring.
haha, exactly. Gavin is full of himself. this sounds like poor excuses. there's no hiding the fact that the old material is trying to be progressive and "artsy". immature or not, they've proven over and over that they can't write music nearly as good anymore. or they just don't want to. so if he wants to stick to pop, fine. but making fans of the old material sound like idiots and trying to say they're wrong is pathetic.
I think you hit the nail on the head on that one
Review in RockSound magazine:
"On past form Dredg were never going to be the band that delivered an easy and obvious album but it's a shame to hear a band over-reach from artful and creative landing squarely in terrain occupied by the indulgent and boring. From moments of synthy gloop to pedestrian folk via weird ambient pop, this album creates potentially great moments before cruelly destroying them right in front of the listener. Fans of the band will probably overlook the poor sections and instead focus on the decent lyrics and occasionally strong melodies, but for everyone else out there this is just a disappointment. Plain and simple. [5/10]"
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2011, 11:07 AM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Apr 30, 2011, 02:54 AM
Hahaha.
Gavin Hayes: It has nothing to do with change or comfort zone. It has to do with the fact that the new album is boring as shit. It's not interesting in the least. Boring little comfort zone? Your new album is what's boring.
haha, exactly. Gavin is full of himself. this sounds like poor excuses. there's no hiding the fact that the old material is trying to be progressive and "artsy". immature or not, they've proven over and over that they can't write music nearly as good anymore. or they just don't want to. so if he wants to stick to pop, fine. but making fans of the old material sound like idiots and trying to say they're wrong is pathetic.
There's a difference between being full of yourself and defending your artform. 'Progressively worse' is harsh from the interviewer and I'm a big fan of all their material, not just some. I think some people have a hard time accepting new sounds from bands, which is what he's trying to convey.
To reiterate, Gavin is not full of himself :)
I have met Gavin before and he did not seem self-absorbed or conceited at all. Very nice dude actually.
iTunes free track download of "The Thought of Losing You"
http://bit.ly/jHXCfp
I seriously cannot express how excited I am for dredg tonight and the new album being out today. Seriously.
anyone going to the roxy shows?
Nope. I'll most likely see them when they come to Houston on the 26th. Try go get a pic of the setlist, or remember the songs they played.
Quote from: skinnypuppy on May 02, 2011, 05:07 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2011, 11:07 AM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Apr 30, 2011, 02:54 AM
Hahaha.
Gavin Hayes: It has nothing to do with change or comfort zone. It has to do with the fact that the new album is boring as shit. It's not interesting in the least. Boring little comfort zone? Your new album is what's boring.
haha, exactly. Gavin is full of himself. this sounds like poor excuses. there's no hiding the fact that the old material is trying to be progressive and "artsy". immature or not, they've proven over and over that they can't write music nearly as good anymore. or they just don't want to. so if he wants to stick to pop, fine. but making fans of the old material sound like idiots and trying to say they're wrong is pathetic.
I think some people have a hard time accepting new sounds from bands.
To reiterate, Gavin is not full of himself :)
I don't think he's necessarily full of himself but I don't have a hard time accepting new sounds at all. That's what I'm saying. I don't know about other people but I don't think that's the problem for a lot of other fans either. If the new sounds intrigued me in the least, regardless of how different they were, I'd have no problem saying it. These new songs though are just boring. Plain and simple.
I bought the cd yesterday... And no booklet was included... A real pain... Anybody else with the same problem?... Just asking
Quote from: bewareofrats on May 04, 2011, 03:48 AM
Quote from: skinnypuppy on May 02, 2011, 05:07 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2011, 11:07 AM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Apr 30, 2011, 02:54 AM
Hahaha.
Gavin Hayes: It has nothing to do with change or comfort zone. It has to do with the fact that the new album is boring as shit. It's not interesting in the least. Boring little comfort zone? Your new album is what's boring.
haha, exactly. Gavin is full of himself. this sounds like poor excuses. there's no hiding the fact that the old material is trying to be progressive and "artsy". immature or not, they've proven over and over that they can't write music nearly as good anymore. or they just don't want to. so if he wants to stick to pop, fine. but making fans of the old material sound like idiots and trying to say they're wrong is pathetic.
I think some people have a hard time accepting new sounds from bands.
To reiterate, Gavin is not full of himself :)
I don't think he's necessarily full of himself but I don't have a hard time accepting new sounds at all. That's what I'm saying. I don't know about other people but I don't think that's the problem for a lot of other fans either. If the new sounds intrigued me in the least, regardless of how different they were, I'd have no problem saying it. These new songs though are just boring. Plain and simple.
that's cool brah, just would suggest not hating on a band for an album you don't connect with. They're still the same band, they're still dredg, it's just a new album ya don't like. I had the same issue with Radiohead.
Quote from: chuckles on May 04, 2011, 04:10 AM
I bought the cd yesterday... And no booklet was included... A real pain... Anybody else with the same problem?... Just asking
the UV effect on the album is so cool though! I too like lyrics and all that jazz but whatev
Why is this thread stickied? and the radiohead isn't?
I'm very confused. Did I just pick up the same album today that everyone else has been listening to? I've been reading on here for the past month or so just piles of shit being tossed on the new album. So when I listen to it today and think "this is very fucking good" I get confused.
What did everyone expect? It's dredg and Dan the Automator. You know what it sounds like? It sounds like Dan the Automator produced a dredg record. Which, as weird as it may sound, is exactly what I expected.
Quote from: Corleone on May 05, 2011, 12:39 AM
Why is this thread stickied? and the radiohead isn't?
Quote from: defskull on May 05, 2011, 04:22 AM
It's dredg and Dan the Automator. You know what it sounds like? It sounds like Dan the Automator produced a Giant turd. Which, as weird as it may sound, is exactly what I expected.
i agree
Quote from: E-Money on May 05, 2011, 05:04 AM
Quote from: Corleone on May 05, 2011, 12:39 AM
Why is this thread stickied? and the radiohead isn't?
because long ago, dredg were good and radiohead weren't. but things have changed and so should sl
Quote from: from_musings on May 05, 2011, 12:44 PM
Quote from: E-Money on May 05, 2011, 05:04 AM
Quote from: Corleone on May 05, 2011, 12:39 AM
Why is this thread stickied? and the radiohead isn't?
because long ago, dredg were good and radiohead weren't. but things have changed and so should sl
Hmm. I must admit i didn't like the first two radiohead albums much, but I don't remember radiohead ever not being good, at least not as long as this board has existed.
Quote from: Crazylegs on May 05, 2011, 12:54 PM
Quote from: from_musings on May 05, 2011, 12:44 PM
Quote from: E-Money on May 05, 2011, 05:04 AM
Quote from: Corleone on May 05, 2011, 12:39 AM
Why is this thread stickied? and the radiohead isn't?
because long ago, dredg were good and radiohead weren't. but things have changed and so should sl
Hmm. I must admit i didn't like the first two radiohead albums much, but I don't remember radiohead ever not being good, at least not as long as this board has existed.
I might ruffle some feathers here, but I'm gonna go out and say that if Radiohead did El Cielo, that would only be like their 5th or 6th best album.
/don't know why we started a dredg vs radiohead battle
Chuckles is very good, im not sure what all the hate was about? I listened to it when my download card arrived in my e-mail and I liked all the way through. My favorites right now are Another Tribe, Sun Goes Down, Kalathat. I think its a refreshing sound for them and in no ways awful as some are perceiving it to be.
I saw them a couple of nights ago on their CD release party and they played amazing. The new songs sound very good live especially Another Tribe and Down Without a Fight. They played such a kick ass set list and after the show I got to meet and talk with Gavin and Drew. They also signed my copy of Leitmotiff.
Here is the setlist;
Down Without a Fight
Upon Returing
Not That Simple
Lechium
Lightswitch
Planting Seeds
Whoa is Me
It Only Took a Day
Canyon Behind Her
Bug Eyes
Information
90 Hour Sleep
Another Tribe
The Though of Losing You
The Tent
Of the Room
It was funny there was dude that kept screaming out "Zebraskin!" And Gavin was like "What? Zebraskin? We didn't write that... thats wayy too poppy. Fucking sellouts.."
Lechium, 90 Hour Sleep, Whoa is Me. It Only Took a Day, Canyon Behind Her AND Of the Room? Damn. Awesome setlist.
I agree with you. Chuckles has grown on me a lot.
Lol @ the Zebraskin comment.
Right? I was expecting their typical El Cielo songs like Same Ol Road, Sanzen and Triangle but playing the later half of that album was so refreshing. I've seen them live twice and this is my favorite performance.
Here are 2 vids of them performing their new material live.
Another Tribe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6iBuOsoVuk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6iBuOsoVuk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
The Tent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umaZ4nfBL58&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umaZ4nfBL58&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
and here's a vid where he says that Zebraskin is too poppy. lol
It Only Took a Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3kBv8x8Ous&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3kBv8x8Ous&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
Quote from: An bád dubh on Apr 12, 2011, 02:43 PM
This sounds to me like a dance band on a cruise ship between Finland and Sweden, after the bingo and the evening show for the whole family. Now its time for the elderly couples to dance after having some drinks. Some small children are also dancing in front of the stage, holding each others' hands, with glow sticks in their hands. The dance band is happy, they're all smiling, theyre indeed playing the best covers to fit the evening, so that everyone can dance. Some might even dare to ask for a stranger to dance, but just to go on to separate ways after the song is over.
Am I just having a bad day or are others also as disappointed with what theyre hearing right now?
I keep this definition, its spot on, but I take out the last sentence of being disappointed. Because..
..how can I be disappointed as I just love the album! I felt like I even hated the album after my second listen, but already on the third listen I was just loving it.
does anybody here have the dvd of dredg performing el cielo? i've been looking that for a quiet while now and i just don't have good luck on finding. i found a website but a part of the dvd is not working.
any info would be grateful, thanks:)
saw them last night, show was fucking awesome. pretty much same songs as the above setlist just in a slightly different order. I lol'd when he couldn't do the screams in lechium. And the new material sounds so good live, Gavin was way more animated than I've seen him in previous show. He was all over the stage and Dino was playing like a fuckin beast.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on May 26, 2011, 04:15 PM
saw them last night, show was fucking awesome. pretty much same songs as the above setlist just in a slightly different order. I lol'd when he couldn't do the screams in lechium. And the new material sounds so good live, Gavin was way more animated than I've seen him in previous show. He was all over the stage and Dino was playing like a fuckin beast.
Aww man really? Gavin pulled off those screams pretty good when I saw them. He might till be in some pain from that throat infection he got a couple of weeks ago.
he looked like he was screaming but i heard nothing, maybe b/c i was right in front the stage. Everyone else said they could hear the vocals better from the back.
Dredg - "Lightswitch" - May 25, 2011 - New Orleans, LA - House of Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fEQ2VGJWOU#ws)
ive been seeing people bash the new album like crazy on here, so i figured it was my turn to listen.
i think the album is incredible. it still very pop-ish, but i really enjoy it from beginning to end.
the album doesnt have the awesomeness of leitmotif and el cielo, but after dredg released Catch Without Arms, i just kind of knew that they would never be the same again.. i must admit though, i am very happy with the new record and will be listening to it like crazy.
Quote from: Fireal1222 on May 31, 2011, 05:06 PM
ive been seeing people bash the new album like crazy on here, so i figured it was my turn to listen.
i think the album is incredible. it still very pop-ish, but i really enjoy it from beginning to end.
the album doesnt have the awesomeness of leitmotif and el cielo, but after dredg released Catch Without Arms, i just kind of knew that they would never be the same again.. i must admit though, i am very happy with the new record and will be listening to it like crazy.
Damn, fireal is the last person I'd expect to love this album.
It's far from "incredible", but the hate it gets is definitely ridiculous. Hyperbole much?
Easily their weakest release, but I still enjoy most of it.
True. people have been giving it such bad reviews but I can't really understand why. Great album through And through.
Quote from: mr.sinister on Jun 01, 2011, 06:47 AMGreat album through And through.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!
add 3 no's and i'll +1 it
there probably are those who are guilty of exaggerating how bad the record is,but just as much as there are those who are guilty of exaggerating how good it is just because it's dredg."it's not that bad!" please. if I get an ugly sweater from someone I don't like and don't meet very often, I'll probably throw that fucking sweater away. but if I get an ugly sweater from someone I like, i want to like the sweater: "maybe to these pants?" you dig in your mind for things to be enjoyable about it. same with dredg's latest album and their fans 8)
Well I am not hailing it as a masterpiece or anything I just think its a good album from an amazing band, but I don't like how people are dismissing it just because its not as over-indulgent as some of their earlier stuff. Early stuff rules hard, but this stuff is good too.
After seeing them live the new stuff sounds so much better with dino on drums, wish the album had more real drums.
is it just me, or does "where ill end up" sound like an elvis presley type song
Nice little acoustic performance of The Thought of Losing You: http://akustik.mtv.de/videos/4332-dredg/10012-dredg (http://akustik.mtv.de/videos/4332-dredg/10012-dredg)
Man, Gavin looks fucking pissed in that video. Good performance nonetheless.
haha, yeah i noticed that too.
nice acoustic version, makes me wanna hear that album in a natural dredg environment
dredg - Upon Returning (New Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ9S3ZiiQqY#ws)
...don't do drugs.
Quote from: theis on Jun 09, 2011, 10:03 PM
dredg - Upon Returning (New Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ9S3ZiiQqY#ws)
...don't do drugs.
that video was plain rediculous.
i like when they begin to enjoy the pee in the pool
Best dredg video ever.
Albums are a lot worse when it's not what you expected or wanted. This is for all intensive purposes, a good album. It's just that Dredg fans don't feel that it is a 'dredg album' - which makes it a 'horrible album' - see what I mean? All of my friends who are non-dredg-fans love this album (because they had no expectations going into it or had never even heard of the band before)
no it's a bad album no matter who made it, but i agree.. if it would've been made by a shitty band i wouldn't mind at all because that's what shitty bands do - they make shitty music.it becomes frsutrating when it's from dredg, knowing what they're caple of. but golden days are over
lol
Drew's other band.
Dark Heavens - "Heavy Drinkin" Music Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcUjdOs-oh4#ws)
Awesome song, even more awesome video.
The vid is pretty bad ass, the music is also really good, but can't say I am a fan of the vocals. Seeing dredg again with Fair to Midland next week. Its going to be epic.
Quote from: mr.sinister on Jul 21, 2011, 04:33 PM
The vid is pretty bad ass, the music is also really good, but can't say I am a fan of the vocals. Seeing dredg again with Fair to Midland next week. Its going to be epic.
I just saw 'em on Sunday night. Great show. I got high quality video (full 1080p) and audio (24 bit/96khz WAV) from that show. Here is a Fair to Midland song (the song they opened the show with) followed by the entire dredg set in order:
Fair To Midland - "Whiskey and Ritalin" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oruKgKWxfLs&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Another Tribe" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lh_7X3SKRM&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Upon Returning" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kBZjG9cbs&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Not That Simple" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB-_XO855ag&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Bug Eyes" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgcjGvexdw&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Information" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh4bD_7HgvI&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Whoa is Me" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri5PcCTmUxg&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "90 Hour Sleep" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTP_4s6k2Io&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Light Switch" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZ0C3XNJGY&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Planting Seeds" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY43xnBfvDw&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Down Without a Fight" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKbqoTxd8bE&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Pariah" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUe2HRLgqvI&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "Of The Room" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wxeR6wKzok&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "The Thought of Losing You" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgn33HFleMU&hd=1#ws)
dredg - "The Canyon Behind Her" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uE1eYV_L8M&hd=1#ws)
Enjoy!
-Evan
Quote from: Tryptonique on Jul 26, 2011, 05:29 PM
Oh yeah, not to sound like total newbsauce, but how to hell do you embed vids here? The embed code YouTube provides doesn't seem to work unless I'm just being dumb or something. Protips, anyone?
-Evan
dont copy the short url, use the full url
example:
short: http://youtu.be/9Lh_7X3SKRM (http://youtu.be/9Lh_7X3SKRM)
long (after clicking share, then options and click on full link)
Another Tribe (High-Def 1080p) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lh_7X3SKRM#ws)
Quote from: Tryptonique on Jul 26, 2011, 05:29 PM
Quote from: mr.sinister on Jul 21, 2011, 04:33 PM
The vid is pretty bad ass, the music is also really good, but can't say I am a fan of the vocals. Seeing dredg again with Fair to Midland next week. Its going to be epic.
I just saw 'em on Sunday night. Great show. I got high quality video (full 1080p) and audio (24 bit/96khz WAV) from that show. Check it out a couple of vids from the show if you're interested and keep your eyes peeled to my YouTube channel for the rest of their set to go up. I'm going to extract the audio too for personal use. Lemme know if you guys are interested:
Fair To Midland - "Whiskey and Ritalin" (http://youtu.be/oruKgKWxfLs?hd=1)
dredg - "Another Tribe" (http://youtu.be/9Lh_7X3SKRM?hd=1)
dredg - "Upon Returning" (http://youtu.be/E-kBZjG9cbs?hd=1)
More vids will be going up periodically throughout the next day or two - it takes a while to get 6 gigs of full HD show uploaded, trust me! :)
Enjoy!
Oh yeah, not to sound like total newbsauce, but how to hell do you embed vids here? The embed code YouTube provides doesn't seem to work unless I'm just being dumb or something. Protips, anyone?
-Evan
Thanks dude. Cheers for the great quality on these videos. Do you remember the set list that dredg played by any chance?
Quote from: mr.sinister on Jul 26, 2011, 10:03 PM
Quote from: Tryptonique on Jul 26, 2011, 05:29 PM
Quote from: mr.sinister on Jul 21, 2011, 04:33 PM
The vid is pretty bad ass, the music is also really good, but can't say I am a fan of the vocals. Seeing dredg again with Fair to Midland next week. Its going to be epic.
I just saw 'em on Sunday night. Great show. I got high quality video (full 1080p) and audio (24 bit/96khz WAV) from that show. Check it out a couple of vids from the show if you're interested and keep your eyes peeled to my YouTube channel for the rest of their set to go up. I'm going to extract the audio too for personal use. Lemme know if you guys are interested:
Fair To Midland - "Whiskey and Ritalin" (http://youtu.be/oruKgKWxfLs?hd=1)
dredg - "Another Tribe" (http://youtu.be/9Lh_7X3SKRM?hd=1)
dredg - "Upon Returning" (http://youtu.be/E-kBZjG9cbs?hd=1)
More vids will be going up periodically throughout the next day or two - it takes a while to get 6 gigs of full HD show uploaded, trust me! :)
Enjoy!
Oh yeah, not to sound like total newbsauce, but how to hell do you embed vids here? The embed code YouTube provides doesn't seem to work unless I'm just being dumb or something. Protips, anyone?
-Evan
Thanks dude. Cheers for the great quality on these videos. Do you remember the set list that dredg played by any chance?
1) Thanks Nuno for the upload tip. You rock.
2) Thanks Mr. Sinister (probably my favorite X-Men villian! :-p). As for the set list, of course. I've received set lists after both dredg shows I've attended and had the band sign them. Funny enough, I got everyone but Mark to sign my first set list because Mark bounced before I could get to him. After this show, Mark headed outside for a cigarette and some people were having him sign stuff, so I asked him to sign this last set list. Nobody else was around, so I thought it apropo to let his signature be the only one on this last set list. :)
Anyway, the set list for the Boise show (July 24, 2011) is as follows:
Another Tribe
Upon Returning
Not That Simple
Bug Eyes
Information
Whoa is Me
90 Hour Sleep
Light Switch
Planting Seeds
Down Without a Fight
Pariah
Of The Room
The Thought of Losing You
Hungover on a Tuesday*
The Canyon Behind Her
Down to the Cellar*
*The show started fairly late and Gavin's voice was strained, so they did not play Hungover and Down to the Cellar. They were on the set list, though.
Regards,
-Evan
All vids have been posted from that dredg set. Enjoy! :)
you didn't happen to film more of Fair To Midland? awesome vids anyway.
Quote from: Jacob on Jul 28, 2011, 02:59 AM
you didn't happen to film more of Fair To Midland? awesome vids anyway.
Naw, I really wish I *had* though or gotten some video of The Trophy Fire. I'm kinda kicking myself about that, actually. Trust me, I go to shows a lot in various states. I've seen shows in California (L.A and Sacramento), Washington (Seattle and Sacramento), Nevada (Reno), and Idaho (Boise). I'll see both Fair to Midland and The Trophy Fire again at some point and get some good video. :)
Glad you enjoyed these vids, though. :)
I saw In This Moment live the other day and i swear to god their intro music was EXACTLY THE SAME as the intro to "Information", just a tad bit slower. I was kinda pissed.
So I've been listening to Dredg, and liking it, been listening to El Cielo only though. What else is a good album by them?
I really liked The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion
My friend Denise did an interview. Audios a little fuzzy but it's cool :)
http://punkworldviews.com/dredg-interview/ (http://punkworldviews.com/dredg-interview/)
Did anyone else see Dredg live at the Key Club in Hollywood. Awesome show!
I actually missed it, but normally always go to dredg shows. Saw them twice not too long ago.
I wanted to see them the last time they were in LA with Circa Survive but I missed it. No offense to Tryptonique, the vids he posted are great but dredg had way more intensity during the key club show.
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Aug 28, 2011, 04:41 AM
My friend Denise did an interview. Audios a little fuzzy but it's cool :)
http://punkworldviews.com/dredg-interview/ (http://punkworldviews.com/dredg-interview/)
Damn, she's cute!
She's a really rad girl. We actually were dating for a few weeks, but then all of a sudden out of nowhere we both sort of lost interest. Still keep in touch with her though and really enjoy hanging with her.
The Circa Survive show I saw Dredg at was kind of mediocre due to the fans in attendance. I actually LOVE Circa Survive but they didn't react that well to Dredg. It wasn't that they hated dredg or even disliked dredg, but the passion of a dredg fan is what makes the show, so the atmosphere was lacking.
I was just going to make a thread about trip hop..
I made a triphoppish song... it's not trip hop the way portis head is.. closer to house of blow stuff I guess
Life Itself - Hearts for sale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MVS9nhZXtg#)
I'd like feedback
that was supposed to go in the triphop thread, not sure how that happened
you fucked up thats what happened
im just kidding, its aight brah
they are coming to istanbul
godspeed
So far 4 confirmed dates, two in Russia and one in each Estonia and Turkey.
Now that I think of it, a friend of mine is in Tallinn / Estonia for an away semester, it could be fun to visit him and go to the concert.
Dredg: "The Thought of Losing You" Directed by Stephen Reedy / Produced by Alex Pardee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6yavVzfs58#ws)
lame. I'm still waiting for them to admit this is all a big horrible joke.
I thought the video was pretty cool.
Weren't they talking about releasing another album in early 2012? Whatever happened to that?
Yeah a new album would be awesome, maybe next time they'll let their drummer be on it.
cool video. next album might be all instrumental album.
Per dredg's facebook, they are considering releasing a bsides album next year.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Nov 14, 2011, 10:14 AM
Yeah a new album would be awesome, maybe next time they'll let their drummer be on it.
lol
They are playing catch without arms in its entirety in two weeks and some b sides too.
Hope they do the same with El Cielo. El Cielo is definitely the best dredg album and one of the best albums out there.
Yup will be at the show in LA
Quote from: mr.sinister on Dec 28, 2011, 08:57 PM
Per dredg's facebook, they are considering releasing a bsides album next year.
That would be a great idea...perhaps we will finally hear the full 'Holding A Remedy Potion'...
leitmotif and el cielo were such amazing albums. i still enjoy dredg's music, but i really miss there old stuff. they had such an awesome vibe when they played live too.
Spotify now has Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy; finally listened to it. Quite enjoy it, although it is quite different from what I´m used to by them.
Chuckles is TERRIBLE. Absolutely boring with a capital BORING.
i agree, it is terrible
Haha, yeah, that seems to be the general consensus. Still dig it though. Although I do definitely prefer El Cielo and The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion.
They are going to play El cielo in its entirety in Santa Cruz CA in December!
Quote from: bewareofrats on Sep 04, 2012, 10:55 PM
Chuckles is TERRIBLE. Absolutely boring with a capital BORING.
I've already shared my opinion, but I feel the need to point out that no band has ever disappointed me as much as Dredg. several bands have gotten boring over the years, and there are a few where I love only an album or two. but with these bands I can still enjoy most of their other work, or at least disregard the rest as experimentation gone wrong or inevitable selling out (which of course can be disappointing). but Dredg once created El Cielo, one of my all-time favorite albums (it still is), and ended up putting out something as boring and plain as Chuckles. hell, I stuck it out when they started writing pop songs - it wasn't what I expected, but it turned out they were good at it and still had their own twist on it. but Chuckles isn't even good poppy Dredg. it just isn't good, period. hell, I don't even mind them experimenting with electronic sounds, but they could have at least tried to make it interesting.
I've said it before and I say it again. Chuckles has more in common with anything Justin Timberlake has put out that it has with El Cielo. or any of their other albums, for that matter.
Well The Pariah isn't much more poppy than El Cielo I don't think. Those are definitely their two best albums and Chuckles is like a bad joke.
some of the songs are very poppy, much more so than El Cielo. it started on Catch Without Arms already. but like I said, they showed they could do that as well. especially on Pariah, where they showed they could mix the atmospheric and experimental side of El Cielo with their poppier side and it sounded great. but they threw that out the window on Chuckles.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Sep 09, 2012, 09:18 PM
Well The Pariah isn't much more poppy than El Cielo I don't think. Those are definitely their two best albums and Chuckles is like a bad joke.
Hey we agree on something! I put Pariah in high regard, up there with El Cielo for me.
lostpilot described it in another topic fittingly
Quote from: lostpilot on Aug 31, 2012, 10:37 AM
I am becoming old and stupid since I bitch about every single new decision any of old bands that I used to listen to makes.
OFTEN over the years I felt like that. It took me forever to take Frames by Oceansize for the album it is. After their first two albums, I imagined Oceansize could have done so much better, but who am I to say that? They took a direction they thought was the right one.
And if I cannot enjoy it, its too bad for me and not for them.
And about dredg, they always pointed out that they make music for themselves, and don't consider in the writing process what fans of Leitmotif or El Cielo want.
While I respect that attitude, I also know I can just "leave" whenever I want. And thats why I don't understand why people take it so personal that dredg didn't release the albums they thought dredg were capable of.
But I was no different. In the Summer holidays 2004 I was in Greece and I listened to all the live tracks from their upcoming album, like Jamais Vu, Bug Eyes or Not That Simple at the beach, and it all was so raw and fresh and exciting!! The album could never keep up with that, it felt too polished. Today I am pretty sure it had a lot to do with the great holiday I had, not just the music.
Dude, it's strange how I actually see 'Frames' as a natural and very mature progression.. everything that came afterwards sucked a lot more.
hmmmmm I didn't mean to get too much into Oceansize or Frames as I only took it as an example for a band that I am slowly losing interest in as it doesn't give me as much as their previous albums.
A lot of former favorite bands of mine released an album at some point that I didn't like, and then its a question how to deal with that. Accept the new path they have taken, or say fuck it ( like I do it with Minus The Bear and anything they release in the future. just another example )
and this keeps happening.
old bands, bad new decisions
I'm flying from Portland, OR to NYC to see the El Cielo show. Going to be awesome!
leitmotif and el cielo are two albums that will forever be etched into my favorite albums of all time list.
but i do i agree with most of you guys. their music simply watered down over the years. and even though i still enjoy their music, they don't excite me like they used to.
Their music was only watered down with Chuckles and a little with Catch Without Arms. Leitmotif is easily their worst, after Chuckles.
Quote from: black coffee on Sep 10, 2012, 12:00 PM
But I was no different. In the Summer holidays 2004 I was in Greece and I listened to all the live tracks from their upcoming album, like Jamais Vu, Bug Eyes or Not That Simple at the beach, and it all was so raw and fresh and exciting!! The album could never keep up with that, it felt too polished. Today I am pretty sure it had a lot to do with the great holiday I had, not just the music.
it wasnt the holiday. those songs were absolutely amazing when they were touring on them before they released catch without arms. i remember hearing the songs and being blown away. i went to see them live a few months before catch without arms came out, and i got to meet the band. they played a ton of new stuff and it sounded absolutely amazing.. then the album came out and i was let down because it didnt have the same energy the live show had
although i didnt like CWA at first. it grew on me over time and now i love that album..
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 16, 2012, 08:26 PM
Their music was only watered down with Chuckles and a little with Catch Without Arms. Leitmotif is easily their worst, after Chuckles.
you are crazy, leitmotif is amazing. i cant choose between el cielo and leitmotif for a favorite album
i understand that everyone has their own opinion, but how can you not love this song?
dredg - Traversing Through the Arctic Cold We Search for the Spirit of Yuta (+ Intermission) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypUDKCLR1E#)
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Oct 17, 2012, 05:17 AM
Quote from: black coffee on Sep 10, 2012, 12:00 PM
But I was no different. In the Summer holidays 2004 I was in Greece and I listened to all the live tracks from their upcoming album, like Jamais Vu, Bug Eyes or Not That Simple at the beach, and it all was so raw and fresh and exciting!! The album could never keep up with that, it felt too polished. Today I am pretty sure it had a lot to do with the great holiday I had, not just the music.
it wasnt the holiday. those songs were absolutely amazing when they were touring on them before they released catch without arms. i remember hearing the songs and being blown away. i went to see them live a few months before catch without arms came out, and i got to meet the band. they played a ton of new stuff and it sounded absolutely amazing.. then the album came out and i was let down because it didnt have the same energy the live show had
although i didnt like CWA at first. it grew on me over time and now i love that album..
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 16, 2012, 08:26 PM
Their music was only watered down with Chuckles and a little with Catch Without Arms. Leitmotif is easily their worst, after Chuckles.
you are crazy, leitmotif is amazing. i cant choose between el cielo and leitmotif for a favorite album
i understand that everyone has their own opinion, but how can you not love this song?
dredg - Traversing Through the Arctic Cold We Search for the Spirit of Yuta (+ Intermission) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypUDKCLR1E#)
Thanks for posting that song - that album is great. I had only heard the album Catch Without Arms before tonight, and it always left me wanting more. This is more like it. I'm definitely going to check out El Cielo after this.
Nice work everybody, keep it up.
Didnt dredg say somewhere that Chuckles is meant to be poppy and that it was an experiment by them? They worked with Dan the Automater to try something new and they put it out there that it was going to be very different. In that case, you can hate all you want...but I give them credit for just going out there and trying someone new, so see what they are capable of. So what it wasnt the best cd ever, that happens. Btw I enjoy 1-2 songs from that album.
I disagree about the whole watered down idea. Leitmotif was definitely more raw and I love that cd for what it is, but I think they were just naturally progressing with each album. El Cielo is when I found Dredg, so I love that cd with a passion. I think CWA is also amazing but I feel like it took a bit of a softer turn with them writing songs that were more accessible. The pariah is there best, thats my opinion. I think they have put all the pieces together and have really found something there. I never skip a single track on Pariah, its a little poppy but has a groove to a lot of the songs, sometimes a dark groove...now that Im talkin about it I will be listening to that in my car today.
El Cielo
Pariah-honestly, Information is a baaad song
CWA
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Chuckles
I never gave Leitmotif a proper listen so I wouldnt be able to rate that album.
That's like talking about Iron Maiden and not having listened to their first album. Treason!!
In other words, Leitmotif needs to be in there or you give us no chance to take your nice little ranking serious.
The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion
El Cielo
Catch Without Arms
Leitmotif
Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy
For those who care, and actually buy/listen to vinyl:
http://merchnow.com/products/150261/el-cielo-10th-anniversary-double-45-lp (http://merchnow.com/products/150261/el-cielo-10th-anniversary-double-45-lp)
Cannot believe this finally happened. I thought it NEVER would....
EDIT: And I guess I'll to this too
El Cielo/Leitmotif (the former is superior by a hair)
Catch Without Arms (Decline begins)
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CAMS
I don't get how The Pariah can be shitheaps below El Cielo when it's the closest thing they've done to that album but whatever.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 19, 2012, 12:53 AM
I don't get how The Pariah can be shitheaps below El Cielo when it's the closest thing they've done to that album but whatever.
that doesn't automatically make it nearly as good as El Cielo.
Well it doesn't make much sense to me that it would be shitheaps below is what I'm saying.
wow,
El Cielo
10 years already
If the t-shirt wasn't so boring, I would buy the vinyl + t-shirt package
Lots of good discussion. Count me in on "most disappointing band ever," when considering their entire career trajectory. It is hard to fathom that the same group who sharted out Chuckles, and even some of the bad tracks on Pariah, ever had it in them to do El Cielo... and less than ten years earlier, at that!
I laughed when I read your thoughts, black coffee, because they mirror mine on CWOA to a tee. I also downloaded all the demos and live performances of songs like Bug Eyes, Jamais Vu, Sang Real and Tanbark during the summer of 2004. To me, the songwriting for that record was just as strong as for El Cielo, just a poppier direction. But when they entered the studio, it all came off the rails. I don't understand how they (really the producer) butchered a killer collection of material so badly. It makes it worse how we had so long, a year really, to get attached to those amazing demos. I've never been more disappointed in a record whose songs I already knew, aside from the final production. That entire fall and winter, I was expecting CWOA to easily make my top 10 records of all time. To this day, I can't even listen to it because I spend the whole time thinking, "I should just put those demo MP3s on instead, I actually like those versions."
Anyway, it's clear El Cielo and Leitmotif are their best products (in that order, to me). The rankings for CWOA and Pariah are more difficult, because I think the former had better songs but horrible production and execution, while the latter had weaker songs (on average) but great production.
Quote from: ominousnimbus on Oct 21, 2012, 07:27 AM
I laughed when I read your thoughts, black coffee, because they mirror mine on CWOA to a tee. I also downloaded all the demos and live performances of songs like Bug Eyes, Jamais Vu, Sang Real and Tanbark during the summer of 2004. To me, the songwriting for that record was just as strong as for El Cielo, just a poppier direction. But when they entered the studio, it all came off the rails. I don't understand how they (really the producer) butchered a killer collection of material so badly. It makes it worse how we had so long, a year really, to get attached to those amazing demos. I've never been more disappointed in a record whose songs I already knew, aside from the final production. That entire fall and winter, I was expecting CWOA to easily make my top 10 records of all time. To this day, I can't even listen to it because I spend the whole time thinking, "I should just put those demo MP3s on instead, I actually like those versions."
yup, pretty much the same for me. I had live versions and demos of Spitshine, Jamais Vu, Planting Seed amongst others on repeat and was stoked for the albums. when the album dropped, I felt all those songs had lost something important. they weren't nearly as atmospheric and soulful. couple that with all the poppy songs and it was pretty much a major letdown. with time I got used to the album and I eventually ended up loving it. it's no El Cielo though.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 19, 2012, 01:17 AM
Well it doesn't make much sense to me that it would be shitheaps below is what I'm saying.
My rating is purely subjective. Just because you can say TPTPTD is the closest thing to El Cielo they've done since it came out doesn't mean its even in its ballpark and its not. But that's just my subjective opinion.
El Cielo is so beautiful and mysterious and Pariah holds next to no beauty and mystery to me. Its all about the feel of the record and the images it conjures and in that sense El Cielo is rich where songs like "Ireland" and "Information" completely deter Pariah from ever having the capability to shine in the glorious way that EC does.
Bottom line: its all a matter of taste and personal association. I see and hear something totally unique to my experience when I listen to any record and any record will reflect what I hold up to it when I listen to it. No one else's opinion can truly color what I get from experiencing any music.
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Oct 23, 2012, 05:31 AM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 19, 2012, 01:17 AM
Well it doesn't make much sense to me that it would be shitheaps below is what I'm saying.
My rating is purely subjective. Just because you can say TPTPTD is the closest thing to El Cielo they've done since it came out doesn't mean its even in its ballpark and its not. But that's just my subjective opinion.
El Cielo is so beautiful and mysterious and Pariah holds next to no beauty and mystery to me. Its all about the feel of the record and the images it conjures and in that sense El Cielo is rich where songs like "Ireland" and "Information" completely deter Pariah from ever having the capability to shine in the glorious way that EC does.
I'm totally with you on this. I can see the similarities between the two in a theoretical sense, but Pariah fails miserably to create that surreal atmosphere where El Cielo succeeds as well as any record I know of since 2000.
I hate to admit it to myself, but Pariah is one of those records I anticipated so much for so long that I simply *had* to like it at release -- and so it was. But in hindsight, if I'm brutally honest, it feels something like a parody of themselves circa El Cielo. Even the more interesting cuts like Gathering Pebbles and I Don't Know aren't stuff I feel compelled to go back and listen to much three years later.
This all wraps into why I described them as the most disappointing band I've ever followed (a moniker I think they've widely earned among their older fanbase). I only discovered them in 2003, about a year after El Cielo dropped. From that point on until around Pariah, I adored them and tried to force both CWOA and TPTPTD on myself. Only now, after Chuckles forced me to rip the blinders off for good, do I realize they haven't put out a truly good album since the day I found them as a teenager... and that I largely wasted my time following them all those years. Pretty depressing stuff, and I can't really think of any other band to whom this applies for me.
i have to agree with a lot of you guys who are talking about dredg's downfall. they had such an aura about them in the early years. their albums and live shows were deep, dark, and mysterious. and then over time, they just became boring. i dont know how else to put it.
^ Lost their expressive and unique creativity in their music we all really enjoyed on the earlier works.. That's pretty much it. I think they may have chance for a come back.
a friend has recently gotten really into El Cielo, and last night I played some of the last album for him. after the first song he said its sounds like a Romanian pop group who came a few years late to the Eurovision Song Contest. I think that sums it up pretty fantastic.
Quote from: Jacob on Nov 10, 2012, 02:47 PM
a friend has recently gotten really into El Cielo, and last night I played some of the last album for him. after the first song he said its sounds like a Romanian pop group who came a few years late to the Eurovision Song Contest. I think that sums it up pretty fantastic.
haha he nalied it
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Oct 28, 2012, 02:57 PM
i have to agree with a lot of you guys who are talking about dredg's downfall. they had such an aura about them in the early years. their albums and live shows were deep, dark, and mysterious. and then over time, they just became boring. i dont know how else to put it.
Yea exactly. I used to love this band. Completely fell off. I haven't even listened to their latest record.
Next Week, i'll be seeing them playing Catch Without arms and El Cielo!
Can't wait!
It's going to be an awesome way to close the year or probably end the world haha.
El Cielo and Turn on the Bright Lights came out ten years ago. And both bands through three more albums became shitty and shittier. Still love those oldies though.
just saw this on fb
"A 40 minute black & white film documenting the making of the record Catch Without Arms."
http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms (http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms)
If someone is going to pay for this, please upload it and share it with your SL buddies!!
Quote from: ben on Dec 13, 2012, 09:46 PM
El Cielo and Turn on the Bright Lights came out ten years ago. And both bands through three more albums became shitty and shittier. Still love those oldies though.
hey old buddy. thank you for getting me into tychos music!! and afta-1
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jan 03, 2013, 09:06 PM
Quote from: ben on Dec 13, 2012, 09:46 PM
El Cielo and Turn on the Bright Lights came out ten years ago. And both bands through three more albums became shitty and shittier. Still love those oldies though.
hey old buddy. thank you for getting me into tychos music!! and afta-1
I have never checked anything from Interpol. 10 years of waiting for a cool album/band I hope, shall grab the album with me to the gym righttttt now.
Checked the Interpol album from 2002 and it was very lovely. Sounds like a band which sounds like a band which many people can say to sound like a certain band that they listen to. To rephrase that, this band sounds like many other bands, either separately or combined. As well as, many other bands sound like this band. Though it doesnt really matter here, its a cool album which I will surely listen to in the future. Maybe I'll even check some other stuff by them.
Was Interpol popular back in 2002 by the way? Many songs on the album sound like they could've been "hits" in one time or another.
http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms (http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms)
Only $5.
I'm a sucker for "making of" album docs, so I'm downloading this asap.
Quote from: black coffee on Dec 27, 2012, 08:34 PM
just saw this on fb
"A 40 minute black & white film documenting the making of the record Catch Without Arms."
http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms (http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms)
If someone is going to pay for this, please upload it and share it with your SL buddies!!
Quote from: black coffee on Feb 28, 2013, 06:37 PM
Quote from: black coffee on Dec 27, 2012, 08:34 PM
just saw this on fb
"A 40 minute black & white film documenting the making of the record Catch Without Arms."
http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms (http://dredg.com/store/product/making-of-catch-without-arms)
If someone is going to pay for this, please upload it and share it with your SL buddies!!
2x
Just watched it. Pretty disappointed.
I was hoping for some interviews regarding the album, but it's pretty much just Dredg diddling around the studio, recording different parts of songs and just being weird...dredg-style.
I'll upload it. Dunno how long it'll take.
much appreciated!!
It's up on 63% now.
In the meantime, here's a new interview with Drew:
The Afterthought w/ Drew Roulette ( Directed by Billy Barnes ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw8NVlfW5ig#ws)
3 Hour Banana: Making of Catch Without Arms.
http://uploaded.net/file/6f0drn4o (http://uploaded.net/file/6f0drn4o)
thanks!!!
Thank you.
I agree, it is rather disappointing. No interviews, most of the time Catch Without Arms studio tracks playing in the background instead of actual jamming or rehearsing, useless video editing.
What I am hoping for is that dredg come here to do one of those Leitmotif / El Cielo / CWA in its entirety shows... that would be something. Either that or an awesome new album, not sure what is more likely though.
ATTENTION DRUMMERS IN CALI : just seen this on facebook
" Drum Lessons by Dino! Email dinocampanella@hotmail.com for details. Lessons will take place in Fremont, CA. Other arrangements can be made. Limited spots available. Beginning ASAP".
So awesome..
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http://img.ly/v3KO (http://img.ly/v3KO)
I wonder if they will ever make a (good) album again.
highly unlikely. el ceilo and leitmotif are two of my favs of all time. el ceilo specifically is in my top 5. i love that album
El Cielo will always have a special place in my heart.
I love Leitmotif, CWOA and Pariah too.
Chuckles, on the other hand...
Quote from: theis on May 28, 2013, 10:31 PM
I love Leitmotif, CWOA and Pariah too.
Chuckles, on the other hand...
So basically you love all of them but the last one. Same here. Let's wait for the next one to say if we can bury the band or not.
Yeah, Chuckles really was beyond awful. Too bad since El Cielo, CWA and Pariah are so great.
Quote from: theis on May 28, 2013, 10:31 PM
El Cielo will always have a special place in my heart.
I love Leitmotif, CWOA and Pariah too.
Chuckles, on the other hand...
Heh, I was under the impression you liked Chuckles.
poster of the first dredg concert I went to, its been 10 years!!
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/34841087/dredg+2003.jpg)
look at the price, 8€ at the box office ^_^
Quote from: Jacob on May 29, 2013, 09:37 AM
Quote from: theis on May 28, 2013, 10:31 PM
El Cielo will always have a special place in my heart.
I love Leitmotif, CWOA and Pariah too.
Chuckles, on the other hand...
Heh, I was under the impression you liked Chuckles.
I deluded myself into thinking the album was good. I don't think I wanted to admit that one of my favorite bands had made a bad album.
But yeah, it sucks.
Quote from: theis on May 28, 2013, 09:50 PM
I wonder if they will ever make a (good) album again.
Indeed.
Haven't heard anything about them for awhile, except that new tour date.
Didn't they have plans for some kind of b-sides record?
If they release a B-sides album with songs that weren't qualified to end up on Chuckles, I might just kill myself.
We can only speculate, but seeing the developement from CWA to Chuckles I think it's safe to say they won't ever be going back to their early sound. Say what you will of those records, but they have definitely moved more and more into the mainstream rock realm. Already on CWA this was hinted on, and Pariah is very mixed. Parts of it are glimpses of El Cielo, but with a thick layer of pop/rock on top. And Chuckles was the final plunge into the depths. I'd be glad to be proven wrong, but I highly doubt it. They may do something more experimental, seeing as how Chuckles wasn't very successful. But the pop/rock tendencies are here to stay.
Personally I love Pariah, maybe even my favorite. It was also the first I heard, so that plays a part. Despite the middle three albums being really good (leitmotif also being good), I somehow have really low hopes for another album. If they make a new album, I really wont have any expectations at all. If it ends up being great, then awesome. I somehow doubt it though.
Quote from: Zantera on May 29, 2013, 04:57 PM
If they release a B-sides album with songs that weren't qualified to end up on Chuckles, I might just kill myself.
Hahaha, nice one xD
Though, it depends on the criteria...maybe the wrong pile became an album? xD
Besides...there's plenty of good b-sides or unreleased stuff out there...for me, I'd really like to hear the full 'Holding A Redemy Potion' song.
Love Leitmotif, El Cielo and The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion.
Seem to listen to the other less and less.
The Papal Insignia is their best b-side/demo in my opinion. In fact, it's one of my favorites songs by them.
Love that track (too).
Their playing this weekend. Wonder if they'll play new stuff...
Quote from: black coffee on Mar 04, 2013, 01:55 PM
What I am hoping for is that dredg come here to do one of those Leitmotif / El Cielo / CWA in its entirety shows... that would be something. Either that or an awesome new album, not sure what is more likely though.
my apologies for quoting myself, but they're really doing it outside the US!!
04/23 London, UK – Scala (performing "Catch Without Arms" in full)
04/24 Vienna, AUT – Flex (performing "El Cielo" in full)
Theaterfabrik - Munich
4.29.2014
Catch Without Arms in completion...
St. Peter - Frankfurt
4.30.2014
El Cielo in completion..
Gloria - Cologne
5.01.2014
*double performance
El Cielo early show
Catch Without Arms late show
Kesselhaus - Berlin
5.02.2014
*double performance
El Cielo early show
Catch Without Arms late show
Gruenspan - Hamburg
5.03.2014
*double performance
El Cielo early show
Catch Without Arms late show
Wow...
I'm listening to El Cielo for the first time in like 4 years.
It's still a magical album and nothing else sounds like it. Ugh, I hope we'll get to hear some new tunes from them at some point.
Yeah, I come back to El Cielo from to time too. It's a timeless progressive rock album in my eyes, it's a shame that they never really went out to reach a HUGE audience that they deserved at some point.
What happened in the last couple of albums no one knows, we should not talk about it.
Yeah. I like Pariah though.
Overall, it's a shame that bands like Dredg, Oceansize and Fair to Midland got so overlooked that they were basically forced to quit the bizz. I miss all those bands.
Quote from: theis on Jul 22, 2016, 08:29 PM
Yeah. I like Pariah though.
Overall, it's a shame that bands like Dredg, Oceansize and Fair to Midland got so overlooked that they were basically forced to quit the bizz. I miss all those bands.
Oceansize were so special - one of those bands where the members differences created a unique sound but tore 'em apart in the end. Left on an amazingly high note though. Never heard Fair to Midland - best check 'em out!
Definitely do! Start with their album "Fables from a Mayfly" :)
Haven't listened to Dredg in awhile, but am now totally obsessed again.
If anyone has stories, pictures, interviews, outtakes, videos...basically anything...please share. Thanks :)
Totally into this live show for example...the setlist, the sound, the odd outtakes and snippets of music between tracks, the sound-effects (the kittyyyyy) and the typewriter...so, so, so cool. *geeks out*
https://youtu.be/DDW1pGg-kVo
That's always cool, having a music reneaissance like that.
Seeing that video gave me a reminder that I have a problem with the drummer, man. Seeing him play makes me tense up.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 06, 2016, 08:10 PM
That's always cool, having a music reneaissance like that.
Totally. I'm glad I saved a lot of b-sides and EP's.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 06, 2016, 08:10 PMSeeing that video gave me a reminder that I have a problem with the drummer, man. Seeing him play makes me tense up.
Really? In what way?
To be honest, I always really enjoyed watching him go off like that. Like it's an improvised attempt to murder his drumkit.
let's just say that the word effortless does NOT come to mind. I don't mind drummers playing hard, but it looks like this guy is tightening every muscle in his body. I'm surprised he doesn't cramp up after the first song.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 07, 2016, 08:39 AM
let's just say that the word effortless does NOT come to mind. I don't mind drummers playing hard, but it looks like this guy is tightening every muscle in his body. I'm surprised he doesn't cramp up after the first song.
Haha I see your point. Love it though, looks like a pretty good overal workout :D
Does anyone have a download of this Dredg show at the Troubadour on June 10th 2006? I used to be able to rip YouTube videos, but the site no-longer works.
https://youtu.be/DDW1pGg-kVo
Thank you!
Quote from: theis on Jul 22, 2016, 08:29 PM
Overall, it's a shame that bands like Dredg, Oceansize and Fair to Midland got so overlooked that they were basically forced to quit the bizz. I miss all those bands.
God. All three of them are in my top 10 favorite bands of the post-2000 era, and Oceansize is probably #1. And all three of them basically burned out after barely managing to sustain a starving wage through their music. It's disgusting.
Good proggish rock bands that didn't establish themselves before 2000 or so were all doomed from the start, as that style of music was completely cast out of the mainstream/radio, and the older generation that has sustained Deftones/Tool/et al. largely never bothered looking for interesting new music in their adulthood. That's my take, anyway.
Although, you do have a few like Coheed or Porcupine Tree who fared better. I feel like they only survived by pandering to the classic prog-nerd audience who worship Floyd, Rush, King Crimson, etc., whereas bands like Oceansize and FTM were strictly forward-looking and didn't pay homage to that tradition. I love Coheed and appreciate PT, but it's kind of annoying how that nostalgic prog indulgence tended to be rewarded commercially moreso than really inventive stuff. Oceansize basically did everything PT/SW do well, but threw in a shitload of innovation and diverse experimentation on top of it, so I'll never grasp why their audience stayed so much smaller.
I think Oceansize's influences were more obscure maybe, and so those points of familiarity didn't touch a lot of people? I dunno, I hear a lot of Cardiacs in them, and some of their titles are even direct references: Part Cardiac, Music for Nurses etc. Plus they did a Spratley's Japs cover! But yeah, they definitely didn't pander, and there weren't really any theatrics involved, or attention-seeking. Sometimes beautiful music just ain't enough by itself sadly.
Is there any other dredg freak besides me out there ? I've been stalking dredg members through their social media - it seems like all of them (maybe except guitarist) left music business and now all of them have their regular jobs in IT. There were some rumors that they are up to something (new record plans for 2019/2020) but most probably COVID-19 situation is not helping them at all.
I'm wondering what is Dino doing right now. I remember he was supporting Crosses as a second drummer - would be cool to hear some new stuff from Crosses with Dino on-board.
Wonder about Dredg too. I remember plans of B-sides album, a scrapbook and stuff like that. And last year there was talk about new music. After that I haven't heard much.
I do know the live album got a vinyl treatment, and it's being send out now. I love that live album.
Quote from: Martin on Feb 19, 2021, 10:59 AM
Wonder about Dredg too. I remember plans of B-sides album, a scrapbook and stuff like that. And last year there was talk about new music. After that I haven't heard much.
I do know the live album got a vinyl treatment, and it's being send out now. I love that live album.
Almost two years since I posted this, and I'm going through the immense package that is 'The Vault'. Love the scrapbook, there's so much to see and read.
Anyone else got this?