Quote from: Breaking Bad WikiBreaking Bad is an American television drama series created and produced by Vince Gilligan. The series is produced by Sony Pictures Television and broadcast in the United States and Canada on the cable network AMC. It premiered on January 20, 2008, and completed its first seven-episode season on March 9, 2008. The show's 13-episode second season ran from March 8 to May 31, 2009. The third season began on March 21, 2010.
Set and produced in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Breaking Bad is the story of Walter White (Bryan Cranston), a struggling high school chemistry teacher who is diagnosed with terminal lung cancer at the beginning of the series. He breaks down and turns to a life of crime, producing and selling methamphetamine with his former student Jesse Pinkman (Aaron Paul) in a desire to secure his family's financial future.
Breaking Bad has received widespread critical acclaim, particularly for its writing as well as Bryan Cranston's and Aaron Paul's performances, and has won four Emmy Awards in addition to numerous other awards and nominations.
anyone else watch this show? Third season is in full swing and amazing. Highly recommend it to fans of the wire, and the sopranos.
YEAH DUDE!!! Best show on tv after Lost, in my opinion. Is this the beginning of the great downfall of Walt? he's seems to have gone completely off the reservation with last night's episode.
I'm also digging the 2 mexican brothers. I get an awesome No Country For Old Men vibe from them.
I loved The Sopranos and The Wire was just the absolute greatest. Also, I saw The Daily Show earlier and Hal was on there plugging this shit. I'm gonna check it out.
Walt is definitely losing it. Skyler is such a B for screwing Ted. The two brothers are awesome, I get what you mean about the no country vibe. Did you catch that bit on the radio about jesse's ex-girlfriend's dad attempting suicide?
Tonedef check it out man it's pretty good once you stop thinking malcom is gonna be walking inthe next scene
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 13, 2010, 02:34 AM
YEAH DUDE!!! Best show on tv
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia?
Honestly, Sunny has been getting weak. It's still good though. Right now, Breaking Bad is untouchable. Cranston is an amazing actor.
Quote from: your sister gets me hard on Apr 13, 2010, 08:46 PM
Honestly, Sunny has been getting weak.
You thought season 5 was weak?
Probably my favorite season so far.
goddamnit now theis put me in the mood for a list. for some reason with movies i rarely choose comedies for oscar contention, so i just do the same with tv shows.
Best comedies on the air:
Sunny In Philly
30 Rock
The Office
Community
Parks/Rec
Venture Bros.
Archer
South Park
Best of every other genre:
Lost
Breaking Bad
Sons of Anarchy
Mad Men
Fringe
The Pacific
Quote from: lithium on Apr 13, 2010, 01:41 PM
Did you catch that bit on the radio about jesse's ex-girlfriend's dad attempting suicide?
yeah that whole ending of the episode with him driving was incredible. so tense.
Quote from: lithium on Apr 13, 2010, 01:41 PM
Walt is definitely losing it. Skyler is such a B for screwing Ted. The two brothers are awesome, I get what you mean about the no country vibe. Did you catch that bit on the radio about jesse's ex-girlfriend's dad attempting suicide?
Tonedef check it out man it's pretty good once you stop thinking malcom is gonna be walking inthe next scene
I'm really gonna get into this shit man. The Americans do serials like no one else. TV in the UK is fucking wank. All my favourite shows, The Wire in particular, are from the US.
I watch the inbetweeners and top gear along with kitchen nightmares on BBC America. So don't feel too bad.
Edit: best comedies
modern family
big bang theory
the office
30 rock
the inbetweeners
glee
and the only two other shows I'm watching are lost and breaking bad.
glee lolz
The Inbetweeners is great. Fucking love it. Top Gear is ok.. entertaining but that show annoys me. It used to be a very different programme. It ran for years and was actually about cars. I used to love watching it when I was a kid. Then they axed it and it relaunched as the show it is today. It's very entertaining but it got too big for itself and became less about the cars. What really, really bugs me about it is how they act like it's all spur of the moment, on the fly and shit.. But it's so, so scripted. Taking its audience for mugs.
Kitchen Nightmares is good. I love Ramsay. I met him once. I will say that if there's one thing us Brits do better, it's reality shows. We get a lot of the US versions of shit like The Apprentice, Kitchen Nightmares USA (I realise The Apprentice was originally US) and fuck me.. How much is that shit dramatised, staged and over dramatic? It ruins it. It's so, so fake. We do it way better. However, our shit is getting more like that all the time which sucks. The UK apprentice is really, really good.
I'm in the US right now.. and how many fucking commercial breaks do you have?!?! It's insane!!! They're great adverts though.. Really well done.
The UK has titties and swearing though, so that's another win.
commercials here are insane. because of the commercials, our normal hour-long shows are like 40-45 mins. swearing is finally being accepted on basic cable, which is sweet. but we'll never get b00bs on the air.
wow tonight's episode was one of most tense hours of television in quite some time. Hank is about to murder someone. and I really can't trust this new lab assistant from The Wire. his character is just too good to be true.
seems like all other fuckers on this board with any decent taste in television need to watch this show. from the beginning.
the last 2 episodes have possibly been 2 of the best hours of television in years. i've said it before and i'll say it again, i can't wait for Lost to end so I can officially declare this the greatest show currently on the air.
last week's episode had so much shit hit the fan, and its title was "Half Measures".
so that could only mean that even bigger shit will happen in tonight's finale titled "Full Measure".
and apparently i'm the only one watching this, the best show on tv.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 15, 2010, 03:33 AM
but we'll never get b00bs on the air.
what? True Blood? Californication? Dexter? all pretty mainstream shows that aren't afraid to show boobs.
Can't wait for tonights episode!! How many left in the series?
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Jun 13, 2010, 02:12 PM
and apparently i'm the only one watching this, the best show on tv.
i'm watching the first season at the moment. So you're not alone. I wouldn't say that this is the best show on tv, but it is pretty good.
tonight is the last of the season, until probably next March.
Quote from: Jacob on Jun 13, 2010, 06:45 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 15, 2010, 03:33 AM
but we'll never get b00bs on the air.
what? True Blood? Californication? Dexter? all pretty mainstream shows that aren't afraid to show boobs.
yeah i know those, but i talking about some material that we will never see on basic cable tv in america. those programs are on premium channels that we have to pay so much extra. whereas, when i was went to europe several years ago, there was like softcore porn on after the news at night.
the cursing and violence is mainstream nowadays, even on the big networks like nbc and fox.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Jun 13, 2010, 07:21 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Jun 13, 2010, 02:12 PM
and apparently i'm the only one watching this, the best show on tv.
i'm watching the first season at the moment. So you're not alone. I wouldn't say that this is the best show on tv, but it is pretty good.
oh trust me, each season manages to top the previous one. and when you get into season 2 you'll be wondering how that's possible, but sure enough, season 3 has not let up.
ah, I see what you mean. and yes, it's hilarious how so much violence and shit is ok in the US but a naked female body is like the worst possible thing you can show on TV.
i know dude. shit's weak.
tits > violence
Breaking Bad is now on ABC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtZpo89mmJo#ws)
don't know why i waited so long to start watching this. i'm only on episode three and it's great. only problem is why do series feel it necessary to have such one dimensional bitch characters. i want to punch walt's wife in the face and double goes for her cunt sister.
haha, Skyler sadly pretty much stays bitchy even now. But damn dude, if you're only 3 episodes in and already love it, you got some awesome shit ahead of you. I've loved every season so far, but I honestly would probably put season 1 as my least favorite, even though it was some VERY memorable moments.
I think season 4 is only like 3 weeks away or something. I can't wait!
well i just finished episode one of season two and i am loving it. totally addicted. i imagine i'll be caught up by the time season 4 starts.
oh my god this show still has it! the premiere was fucking badass as usual. also, I'm surprised they got away with the violence they showed tonight, since basic cable is usually kind of tame.
Fuck yes - amazing start to season 4. To all non-us residents that cant be arsed to wait the 200 years or whatever for it to reach your shores, the greatest stream site in the world has all the seasons ready for your perusal:
http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/breaking_bad/index.html (http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/breaking_bad/index.html)
How fast do you get to watch the new ones? Tonight's (3rd episode) was another good one. I'm just continuously amazed as to how most of the time it is fairly slow-moving, yet they maintain the intensity in nearly every scene, with the exception of the hilarious ones with Saul Goodman.
But anway this might be the most fucked up Jesse has been the whole series. He seems to be so far out of it now, there's some random guy following him, the cops are investigating the homicide... this could be a big downfall.
Also, best cinematography on television (Game of Thrones probably in 2nd).
Pretty much as soon as they've shown it I guess - episode three was up last night and I just watched it this morning. That guy sitting outside Jesses house....aint he the new collect guy? Im kinda surprised that in spite of all thats gone on before, Walt aint on to the fact Jesse is a man on the edge...kinda thought it a given he'd know to keep an eye on him after what he did. Far from mr perfect I guess.
yeah walt is completely blind to jesse right now. luckily we get amc up here in canada. only problem is it's on at the same time as curb your enthusiasm so each week it's a dilemma of which show to watch first.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Aug 01, 2011, 01:54 PM
yeah walt is completely blind to jesse right now. luckily we get amc up here in canada. only problem is it's on at the same time as curb your enthusiasm so each week it's a dilemma of which show to watch first.
I have this same exact problem haha.
I finally started watching this show today and man, I've been missing out.
That pilot simply sucked you right in from the beginning. I'm 4 episodes into the first season and I'm completely hooked. The character development is already amazing.
Great stuff.
Fuck yeah buddy! I thought it would just be a matter of time till you got into this. Great mixture of intense drama and dark comedy. Perfect example from the last episode- the random, hilarious karaoke video of a character, but in the context of where it's being watched is heart-wrenching to watch. (the song's been stuck in my head all week)
Spoiler-free, unless you read the youtube description and comments.
Gale whole song from Breaking Bad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugY6HNLOCo#ws)
Holy shit, that scene where Walter goes to Tuco's place.
BADASS!
Only 1 eps. left of Season 1 and then off to Season 2. Can't wait to see more.
Quote from: theis on Aug 11, 2011, 05:51 PM
Holy shit, that scene where Walter goes to Tuco's place.
BADASS!
Only 1 eps. left of Season 1 and then off to Season 2. Can't wait to see more.
just wait until season 3. walt has a badass moment i doubt can ever be topped.
so if I remember season 1 correctly, Theis has seen the bathtub episode? That maybe wasn't very badass, but definitely one of most memorable moments.
Can I add a bigger "holy shit" to my last post?
Just watched eps. 2, s.2. The showdown with Tuco.
What a fucking intense build-up. "ding ding ding!" Damn.
This is already the best tv-drama I've ever seen.
And yeah, haha that bathtub scene was insane!
Better than The Wire?????
I've...never seen that.
Breaking Bad is still on. You can't compare the two yet. As of now, The Wire crushes all others.
Quote from: poofing acid on Aug 12, 2011, 01:01 AM
Breaking Bad is still on. You can't compare the two yet. As of now, The Wire crushes all others.
you got my back on The Wire, brah.
oz>=breaking bad>the wire
i honestly never liked the wire. breaking bad is pretty much tied with oz for my all time favorite tv drama. too bad dexter sucks now.
You only ranked Oz that high because of the wangs.
respect to Oz, since it's in kind of related/off-shoot of David Simon's Homicide. You got Dexter right though. It gets so much hype and love from everyone, but I love taking jabs at it.
Last season was kinda weak but you can't say Lithgow wasn't awesome. That season was fantastico.
Yeah he was great, but I don't know, other than that season I was never really impressed by the show.
Great fucking show.
http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2011/08/breaking-bad-renewed-for-final-season (http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2011/08/breaking-bad-renewed-for-final-season)
the 5th season will be the last. and it's 16 episodes, so that's good. so basically, we're guaranteed a proper conclusion to a spectacular show.
Just finished Season 3.
Daaaamnnn, what a finale!
Gonna watch the first 5 episodes of Season 4 tomorrow so I can be up to date with everyone else!
holy shit that was fast
I guess I'll have to check this out then......
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 16, 2011, 05:52 AM
holy shit that was fast
Haha, yeah, i've been doing nothing else these last days than watching BB. :D
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 16, 2011, 06:39 AM
I guess I'll have to check this out then......
YES DO IT
Quote from: theis on Aug 16, 2011, 10:25 AM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 16, 2011, 05:52 AM
holy shit that was fast
Haha, yeah, i've been doing nothing else these last days than watching BB. :D
you are living the dream, my friend.
Two eps. into season 4.
Walt's got some balls!
"Just get me in a room with him and I'll do the rest"
Quote from: theis on Aug 16, 2011, 01:50 PM
Two eps. into season 4.
Walt's got some balls!
"Just get me in a room with him and I'll do the rest"
Yeah, Walt is really starting to toughen up, but he's also becoming rather arrogant and reckless, while jessie is sort of beginning to become the opposite. You'll see more of both in the upcoming episodes, I won't spoil it too much though. I just watched Ep. 5, "Shotgun", and it's really interesting where they're moving Walt's character. Not to give anything away, but there are a couple scenes in episodes 4 and 5 between Walt and Hank that are quite mind blowing. To quote theis, "Walt's got some balls", however after seeing these two episodes I think you'll agree with me that it's a bit of an understatement.
Yeah, just got done with ep. 5.
Walt should really be more careful around Hank and think more about what he's saying.
I wonder what Gus' plan is with Jessie? Making him a "hero"? What would that benefit?
It's really impossible to predict what will happen this season. Gus's motives are completely up in the air. Jesse seems to care if he lives or dies now. And then Walt. Those last 5 minutes of Shotgun had me on the edge of my seat. When you saw his just sitting there pounding the wine, you just knew he was gonna come out and say something stupid.
i have no idea what anyone is thinking in this show anymore. walt is getting sloppy, jesse just doesn't give a fuck, and gus is impossible to read. i love it.
I think that gus is trying to build jesse's confidence as well as his arrogance. I think he's trying to create a split between him and walt. He's changing the dynamic of their relationship. Walt was generally the dominant personality, and almost treated jesse like a child a lot of the time. But now that's changing, notice Jesse telling Walt to "Get to work". I think Gus is trying to make it so that Walt and Jesse split on their own, and then he'll only have to deal with one of them. Maybe he wants to continue working with Walt, however he might be getting sick of Walt's unpredictability, I mean he's tried to kill Gus on like 3 separate occasions. Maybe he's grooming Jesse to take over for Walt. Remember season 3? "Your meth is good Jesse. As good as mine". I think that's a fair possibility too. Oh, and what does everyone think of this new stuff coming out about Gale? I've read some interesting theories about him and Victor. Love this fucking show. I am obsessed
Indulge on those theories, man. Victor was kind of a fringe character that I never really gave much thought. I'd to know if there were some connections between him and Gale.
Alright, so I read this interesting theory regarding Gale's 'Major Tom' music video. Anyone notice the foreign subtitles? Apparently the language of the subtitles was Thai. Also, Victor seemed rather uncomfortable and angry with the situation after Gale's murder. So here's the theory: Gale was a child sex tourist in Thailand and Victor was his child lover who he brought back with him. Victor seemed really upset about Gale's death, maybe for more reasons than we think. Also, it's been pointed out that Victor's appearance seemed more asian than hispanic. Who knows what's true? I think it's an interesting theory though.
Yep, I never really thought anything of those Thai subtitles. Very interesting.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 16, 2011, 01:35 PM
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 16, 2011, 06:39 AM
I guess I'll have to check this out then......
YES DO IT
Just downloaded the 1st season yesterday, will have a watching session some time this week...
Get yourself like a quarter of some nice green and just marathon that shit!
Got the green already, but got the lady too, so 24 hours series marathons while smoking weed times are over for me.... :)
Plus it will last longer like this, will make me wait until all the other shows I'm watching finally start again !!!
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 19, 2011, 04:08 AM
Got the green already, but got the lady too, so 24 hours series marathons while smoking weed times are over for me.... :)
Plus it will last longer like this, will make me wait until all the other shows I'm watching finally start again !!!
Haha I feel you man. I actually started with the marathon's by accidentally catching them on AMC. I happened to turn it on about 10 minutes into the first episode of season 1 and was hooked within another 15. Good luck making it last though, it's so hard not to go online and spoil it, but the result is so much more satisfying.
"I am not in danger, Skyler. I'M the danger! A guy opens his door and gets shot, and you think that of me? No. I am the one who knocks!"
Fuck yeah.
I hate Skyler
Finished season 1 already, on to season 2!! It's awesome indeed.... Now I'm hooked, and really want to marathon the shit out of it... Damnit
So do it. Who sleeps anyway?
Am an old man now guys, I need my 8 hours of sleep every day you know... :)
Jessie was fucking bad ass in the last episode, making that dude dig his own grave.
Methhead: "What are you doing?"
Jessie: "Digging".
Methhead: "Why?"
Jessie: "You know why"
What makes me love this show is you never no whats going to happen next. Which really is how the meth world is. . it sucks that its going to end but with all the craziness going on how could it last 6 seasons?
I'm really happy it's ending soon. We know it'll get a solid conclusion that the creator will be satisfied with. For it to last longer, the pacing would have to be waaay slower, and it would also get stale. 5 seasons is perfect. All the great drama shows out there don't really stretch out past 5 or 6 years.
Yup, I completely agree.
Fantastic episode tonight. Glad to see more of Hank, and him doing some work again. In seasons past, he's been my favorite character.
Damn, latest episode was SUCH a tease.
I just wanna see more, more, more!!!
A tease, perhaps, and also I think it might've been the best hour so far of the season. Sets everything up nicely, and Jesse was amazing this episode.
Yeah, Aaron Paul is fucking great actor.
I just re-watched the remake of The Last House on the Left because of him.
He's great in that flick too. Fun to see him play a complete psycho.
wait, wait he was in that?! he was one of the bad guys with Garret Dillahunt? Now I have to go check that out again.
Yeah, he's Krug's (Dillahunt) brother in it.
The last scene in the last episode was fucking awesome.
that provided some much appreciated Gus backstory and about his motivation.
Tony Montana's buddy was the mexican boss I think.
Don Eladio
You're not in Chile anymore
best episode of the season so far. loved the insight into Gus' past and can't wait to find out who he was before he started his new life. things are coming together very nicely.
I REALLY hate when the credits roll on this show. Such a tense episode again, what the fuck is going on with Jesse?
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 12, 2011, 03:45 AM
I REALLY hate when the credits roll on this show.
Ha, me too.
Shit's getting ugly.
"it's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight... rising up ..ahh...blah blah ... my life"
Haha, love Hank!
Hell man, don't you have enough cancer already?
Bravo, Breaking Bad, bravo.
Gus for the motherfucking WIN!
Also, loved how Jesse put that dude, in the lab, in his place. That was badass.
it seems as though walt and hank are about to team up against Jesse and Gus. I think hank will soon find out what walts been up to. and wont report him. But i have had theorys before only to have them smashed.
Honestly, I would've taken last night as the season finale. So what they're building up to for the 3 remaining episodes is just icing on the cake.
been catching up on this show over the last couple of weeks and finally saw the latest episode just now. man, this shit is tense. I don't get what the fuck Jesse's up to. he might not care about his own safety, but he sure as hell should help Walt out after all they've been through. I have a feeling he will in the end though, it would be too much of a kick in the face if he ended up fucking him over. and I guess the best way he can protect Walt and himself for the moment is simply going with it and making himself useful. I really wanted to see him put Gus down, though.
this is seriously one of the most intense and enjoyable shows I've seen. kind of miss the humor that was more present in the first couple of seasons though. and Walt's sort of become a whiny little bitch lately, not the badass he used to be. still, great stuff. the acting is really superb and most characters are really intriguing, even those with little screen time. only thing that really irks me are the constant stupid choices and illogical behaviour in some of the characters. but then again, if everyone always made the right choice it probably wouldn't be a very interesting show to watch.
Love this show, but they are pushing the boundaries of realism. I was watching the last part of the last episode and was waiting for something to happen and then everyone begins dropping dead, It was just like "What the fuck?". Still pretty fucking badass though
Netflix now has Breaking Bad Streaming if anyone has it.
jesus christ I thought this season's episodes have gotten better and better, but tonight's was one of the best of the entire series. Once again, the whole goddamn future is completely up in the air.
That ending! Fucking intense.
how bout this fucking guy...
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Getting to be spoiler territory.... but what's the deal with Beneke?
Beneke is probably dead. That's why Walt went all crazy at the end.
Or do you guys have any other idea?
But Walt has no idea of Beneke's status, just that Skylar gave him a lot of dough. And Saul never comes out and says dead or alive. We just see a twitch of Beneke's fingers. Honestly I hope it is the last of him, fuck that guy.
something tells me Beneke isn't dead and will have a large role to play in the Whites future. Skyler isn't gonna get away with sending those brutes at him, that's for sure.
awesome episode, can't fucking wait for the next one.
oh, and...
(http://i.imgur.com/7XSdp.jpg)
I can't shake the last episode off. SO fucking good.
Breaking Bad S04E11 "Crawl Space" Ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgZS0l5XGyQ#ws)
Seriously, this is some of the best 3 minutes and 29 seconds of TV I've ever seen. The acting, ominous soundtrack, editing, lighting...everything just makes this intense beyond belief.
I'm getting serious goosebumps watching this.
I had the same reaction. I seriously was jumping around my living room after it aired. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
:D
How the hell does Gus know everything?
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 03, 2011, 03:35 PM
How the hell does Gus know everything?
He's just that badass.
Fuck, can't wait to see the season finale!!!
Glad to see Walt and Jesse teaming up again.
I'm not anticipating the inevitable huge cliffhanger they're going to hold over our heads for a year.
well, that was kind of disappointing. Gus somehow realizing there was a bomb in his car was over the top. and why did Walt take him walking back as immediate failure? for all he knows, Gus could've just forgot something and would return to the car later.
that, and the whole thing with the kid made this episode feel like it was filled with lazy solutions.
fucking loved this scene with the music.
Apollo Sunshine featured on Breaking Bad 412 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rzjS4hzR8E#ws)
Old man Hector will definitely have a say in the seemingly inevitable offing if Gus. Shit has been rubbed in his face way too blatantly for him not to have.
I goddamn knew that scene I posted above was more important than i initially thought.
And the climax of the episode. Wow. Well done, Vince Gilligan, well done.
Very satisfying season finale. Glad it didn't end on a cliffhanger.
I must admit that I'd hoped for a showdown between Gus and Walt, face to face. But I guess that would've been hard to pull off since Gus is always surrounded by others.
I also hoped that Mike would've been a part of the climax.
Terminator Gus FTW!
I pretty sure the last season will end with Jesse killing Walt after finding out the whole Jane and Brock thing.
I'm looking to seeing Mike's reaction. And more Saul of course.
fan-fucking-tastic season finale.
For a second before he falls I thought Gus was still alive, and I was like "What the fuck?!!!! I thought they were about to introduce a new plot line that Gus is actually the living dead haha. I was surprised with how they ended it though, it almost seemed like a series finale rather than a season finale. Still several loose ends to tie up though, so I'm sure season 5 will still be good.
http://www.madrigalelectromotive.com (http://www.madrigalelectromotive.com)
So awesome!
Quote from: theis on Oct 11, 2011, 10:24 PM
http://www.madrigalelectromotive.com (http://www.madrigalelectromotive.com)
So awesome!
Badass man! Nice find
I read an interview online with Vince Gilligan saying that a year ago they weren't sure if the 4th season would be the last or not. So seeing it as a potential finale makes sense. But they also have enough lingering questions for the last season like what's Mike's future, did Huell take Jesse's ricin, what really happened to Beneke, does Hank and the rest of the family really buy Walt working the car wash while this thing blows up, and does Walt quit now or is he going full-villain making Heisenberg the new meth kingpin?
Also in the interview it said that they actually got help from a couple people from make-up working on The Walking Dead for that Gus scene. Most memorable moment on tv in the last year at least. Had a little Terminator thing going on too.
(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2011/10/Breaking-Bad-Hector-Faces-1318226431.jpg)
And then of course:
SEE YOU IN HELL, FUCKER!
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Before the SEE YOU IN HELL FUCKER face, did he actually have an I'M SORRY face? I remember him looking almost remorseful when he finally made eye contact and before ringing the bell.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Just hard to think that a man like Hector would feel any kind of remorse.
Maybe it was more a "oh, how i pity the fool" face? Haha.
Finally caught with all 4 season. Definitely definitely an AMAZING show. and the SE4 ending was phenomenal!! Do you guys think that Walt would go as far as poisoning a child or did Gus have his guys plant the flowers to get Jesse to suspect Walt?
No, it was definitely Walt. Without a doubt.
Yeah it's gotta be Walt. And as of now I think Jesse is clueless as to how Brock got poisoned.
I don;t think would be capable of doing that to a kid though. you guys think he's gonna take over Gus' business now?
not necessarily. there is no equipment to produce meth at the moment. but we have witnessed the transformation from science teacher Walt to a murdering, child-poisoning villain.
So, I finished the 4th season... Incredible ending indeed ! I can't believe that Walt went that far as to poison a child... Incredible !
Funny thing is that the scene you posted above is a big hint (impossible to guess in advance of course) towards Walt's decision.
This was such a great tv show, I really really loved it ! I'm so happy it didn't end with a big cliffhanger, that would have been terrible ! And I can't wait for next season, for sure...
I was just thinking, that for some one who seems to deeply care about Jesse. Walt doesn't mind screwing him over where it really hurts. By letting Jane die. (supposedly) poisoning Brock.
can somebody tell me, what car Jesse drives in the first seasons? I mean the american one, not the toyota
Quote from: Sushi-X on Nov 07, 2011, 12:15 AM
I was just thinking, that for some one who seems to deeply care about Jesse. Walt doesn't mind screwing him over where it really hurts. By letting Jane die. (supposedly) poisoning Brock.
he does care about jesse but walt can be pretty selfish and cares much more about his family. he'll sacrifice jesse's happiness whenever necessary to keep his own family secure.
Quote from: McFly on Nov 18, 2011, 10:01 AM
can somebody tell me, what car Jesse drives in the first seasons? I mean the american one, not the toyota
nobody know?
Quote from: McFly on Nov 22, 2011, 10:24 AM
Quote from: McFly on Nov 18, 2011, 10:01 AM
can somebody tell me, what car Jesse drives in the first seasons? I mean the american one, not the toyota
nobody know?
I think it's an older monte carlo or something similar, vato'd out with hydraulics and shit. And the 'Captain Cook' vanity plate haha
Quote from: McFly on Nov 22, 2011, 10:24 AM
Quote from: McFly on Nov 18, 2011, 10:01 AM
can somebody tell me, what car Jesse drives in the first seasons? I mean the american one, not the toyota
nobody know?
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Like jbmp said its a monte carlo
Eeeeeeeaaaaarrrtth beeeloooww uuuuus
I spent the past week catching up on Breaking Bad and I'm in love with this show. I think other shows need to take notes on how a show is supposed to run. There are a few predictable moments that have happened during the course of the series, but I can count those on one hand. For the most part, the audience is continually shocked as to what these characters do or decide to do.
From time to time, these characters do get annoying or make super stupid choices that irritate me but that's the beauty of it. These characters aren't one notes and are real because they have attributes that make them likable half the time, and irritating the other half. Sometimes we feel sympathy for them, and other times we think they're deserving of any consequences they have to endure. My main beef is I hate the women on this show, which is terrible for me to say especially since I'm a woman. I guess there needs to be tension made, but I just really can't stand a bitchy woman who thinks she can control her husband/boyfriend. It's annoying and I wish there were better female characters on this show.
One thing I've learned from watching this is that it appears to be pride as the ultimate downfall for these men. Many of the decisions these men on Breaking Bad make are usually based off their pride and huge egos, which for me is annoying but it's also true. This whole series could be summed up as a game of who has the bigger cock, which I think is one of the underlying themes of this show. Either way, no one really wins the competition because at the end of the day their lives are in still in danger and will continue to be in danger until someone is dead. I think we're also seeing a shift in Walt. A man who said he was nothing like Gus is slowly starting to become Gus, especially with the whole poisoning of Brock. I think Walt is slowly understanding how this business works and maybe by next season we might see him as even more cold and heartless, becoming the ultimate Meth kingpin.
Gus scared the living crap out of me. It was almost as if he were dead half the time. I will say that his death was pretty gnarly. Very Two Face from The Dark Knight.
http://laughingsquid.com/breaking-bad-rpg-hit-television-show-gets-a-retro-8-bit-makeover/ (http://laughingsquid.com/breaking-bad-rpg-hit-television-show-gets-a-retro-8-bit-makeover/)
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lol awesome
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My panties are getting wet just thinking about the upcoming season.
Mine are just absolutely drenched.
Holy fuck I can't wait for this season. Easily the best TV drama since OZ.
Anyone catch the premiere?
Yep. Loved it, of course. Really liked the magnet stuff, and seeing the junkyard owner again.
Hopefully the flash forward part before the title screen is a recurring theme.
I was telling my friend last night, that little flash forward is the ending beginning to unfold. What do you think?
Jesse Pinkman was the man of the hour obviously with the magnet idea. They grow up so fast!
Great premiere episode. Can't wait to see how the rest of the season turns out. Oh, and does Denny's really give you a free meal if it's your birthday?
The opening is one of the reasons why this show is so great.
That scene caught me completely off guard and made my mind wander like crazy. Can't wait to see what is up with all that.
Anyways, great season opener.
"Yeah, bitch! Magnets!" Hahaha...Jesse FTW!
I thought it was a great opener. Loved the opening scenes, now it's crazy theory time again just like with the bear. And damn you theis you beat me to the best quote of the episode. Magnets lol
Favourite quote is "We're done when I say we're done!!"...
This show just keeps proving itself as the absolute best series on TV since OZ. brilliant first episode. Can't wait for more and speculating about the openings.
So what did everyone think about the last scene of the last episode when walt is talking to jesse? A lot of people seem to think that he was threatening jesse, which I think is bullshit. I think it was pretty obvious that he was talking about mike. We know how walt feels about people fucking with his money lol
Walt's attitude definitely reminds me of Marlo in The Wire (I apologize in advance for making my 50th reference to this show). Walt at this point has no heart. He feels that now that he's taken the kingpin down, he's the king and has the power to do anything he wishes, kind of like Joffrey in Game of Thrones. He keeps overstepping his bounds, and while Mike was never Gus, Mike still is a worthy opponent for Walt. Walt has barely been in this drug game. He still has a lot to learn before he can play with the big boys and by stepping on Mike's toes he's definitely setting himself up for another disaster.
I personally wouldn't get on Mike's bad side. He's a smart and scary as hell dude. Walt definitely underestimates his power, which is very dangerous.
I thought it was definitely directed towards Mike, but it's possible it was somewhat of a warning to Jesse to not side with Mike. What I liked, which was also in that scene, Jesse was like the little kid compared to Walt and Mike, trying to keep the peace between arguing parents and offering to use all his money to pay off all the hazard pay.
I think the dedective guy is gonna catch him this season. But he wont arrest Walt cuz he will need money or someone is gonna treat him to kill his wife..
still a great show, but I gotta say - I was a bit disappointed in how they kept the business running. Walt only wanted to protect his family at first, but he then got greedy which only led to trouble. shouldn't he have realized by now that cooking meth isn't worth it? he has no money left, anyway. yet he's still a greedy fuck who thinks it's ok to pollute the streets and put himself and everyone close to him in danger. I think they took the character a bit far, to be honest.
I thought that was the point- he's all in, he's got this complex where he thinks he's invincible and the king of meth, then his dumb wife blows all the money. What's he gonna do? Teach again?
On a side note, here's an awesome article that has some interesting tidbits on the show http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/08/breaking-bad-allusions/ (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/08/breaking-bad-allusions/)
yeah, it's probably the point, but that doesn't mean I have to like it :P I guess I was hoping for Walt not to turn fully evil. but as the story unfolds, I'm sure I will get used to it.
I'm all for the morally ambiguous, I love when it's well written. but when I'm forced to like a person that is completely unlikable (based on morals and ethics, coolness aside) it's no longer moral ambiguity. there are no moral excuses for him starting up a new business, based on "the streets are full of gold waiting for someone to scoop it up".
guess that's why I never liked The Shield.
that's an awesome list, btw.
may be they are trying not to end the show, you know.
people love it and they are expanding story
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 03, 2012, 02:07 PM
I thought that was the point- he's all in, he's got this complex where he thinks he's invincible and the king of meth, then his dumb wife blows all the money. What's he gonna do? Teach again?
On a side note, here's an awesome article that has some interesting tidbits on the show http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/08/breaking-bad-allusions/ (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/08/breaking-bad-allusions/)
awesome. the last one, with the elevator ding foreshadowing gus's death is awesome. never picked up on that.
mike, walt, jesse and saul all in one car in day time was fucking stupid. After mike talking to hank, he never mentions it to walt. maybe he's getting tailed or wire tap, anything.
walt would freak anytime meeting with jesse. and i know walts been through it all now, but shouldn't mean his character doesn't wanna be cautious still. If anyone spotted them - it's just really dumb and easy way to write out getting caught.
still waiting for them to find gus's car in the hospitals parking garage. hope hank finds out, they look at tapes. see walt putting and taking off bomb under his car. they see jesse was there tending to a kid he said might be poisoned to ricine. maybe since walt never tossed the ricine he uses it later to frame jesse to protect his own ass for whatever they come up with. jesse goes to prison and tells walt im gonna hunt you down when I'm out. then we end up at the start of the first ep of season 5 of jesse about to get out and go after walt.
Skyler just needs to die at this point
Haha, shit's gonna get so fucking ugly. Love it!
Anybody else thinking that there may be more to that watch Jessie gave Walt? A bug perhaps? Jessie and Mike are pretty close, and Jessie definately read through the lines when Walt was talking about the guy who Gus killed in the lab, at the end of last week's episode. I'm thinking Jessie warned Mike, and now Mike is keeping tabs on Walt, and gave Jessie the watch to bug him.
I'm completely clueless as to what happens next. That ending with the watch, what the hell. How can they hold that over our heads for a whole week?
Quote from: theis on Aug 06, 2012, 09:27 PM
Haha, shit's gonna get so fucking ugly. Love it!
Anybody else thinking that there may be more to that watch Jessie gave Walt? A bug perhaps? Jessie and Mike are pretty close, and Jessie definately read through the lines when Walt was talking about the guy who Gus killed in the lab, at the end of last week's episode. I'm thinking Jessie warned Mike, and now Mike is keeping tabs on Walt, and gave Jessie the watch to bug him.
I don't think Jessie would do Walt like that. He trusts Mike because he knows the business, but I think he trusts Walt a lot more. At the same time, he's a little scared by Walt as well, and I think for that reason after Walt's little speech he would actually not be very likely to go and tattle to Mike. I don't think there is anything more to the watch. I think it was just a symbol of the strengthening of Walt and Jessie's relationship to contrast the complete deterioration of Walt and Skyler's relationship. Walt is beginning to realize that Jessie is pretty much the only person that cares about him and that he can pretty much trust completely. I think the watch was a symbol of that. I'm so tired of Skyler, one day she's in, then she's out. She knew what she signed up for. She decides to go along with the fact that her husband is basically a meth dealer, but then she acts surprised when bad shit starts happening and people start getting hurt. I'm so tired of the character. I'm hoping that Walt will find someway to get rid of her, maybe not by killing her, but I don't feel she adds ANYTHING to the show anymore. She needs to get on board or get the fuck out.
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Aug 07, 2012, 02:40 AM
Quote from: theis on Aug 06, 2012, 09:27 PM
Haha, shit's gonna get so fucking ugly. Love it!
Anybody else thinking that there may be more to that watch Jessie gave Walt? A bug perhaps? Jessie and Mike are pretty close, and Jessie definately read through the lines when Walt was talking about the guy who Gus killed in the lab, at the end of last week's episode. I'm thinking Jessie warned Mike, and now Mike is keeping tabs on Walt, and gave Jessie the watch to bug him.
I don't think Jessie would do Walt like that. He trusts Mike because he knows the business, but I think he trusts Walt a lot more. At the same time, he's a little scared by Walt as well, and I think for that reason after Walt's little speech he would actually not be very likely to go and tattle to Mike. I don't think there is anything more to the watch. I think it was just a symbol of the strengthening of Walt and Jessie's relationship to contrast the complete deterioration of Walt and Skyler's relationship. Walt is beginning to realize that Jessie is pretty much the only person that cares about him and that he can pretty much trust completely. I think the watch was a symbol of that. I'm so tired of Skyler, one day she's in, then she's out. She knew what she signed up for. She decides to go along with the fact that her husband is basically a meth dealer, but then she acts surprised when bad shit starts happening and people start getting hurt. I'm so tired of the character. I'm hoping that Walt will find someway to get rid of her, maybe not by killing her, but I don't feel she adds ANYTHING to the show anymore. She needs to get on board or get the fuck out.
I think killing her is what probably happens. Right now, she's probably the biggest threat to his business. Anyone who's been in his way has ended up dead. Don't forget she's smoking like a chimney now and Walt conveniently held on to the ricin cig.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 07, 2012, 03:09 AM
Don't forget she's smoking like a chimney now and Walt conveniently held on to the ricin cig.
Oh, daaaaamn. Hadn't thought about that.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 07, 2012, 03:09 AM
I think killing her is what probably happens. Right now, she's probably the biggest threat to his business. Anyone who's been in his way has ended up dead. Don't forget she's smoking like a chimney now and Walt conveniently held on to the ricin cig.
I'm so glad someone else thought of that! That was almost the first thing I thought when during that last scene with her chain smoking. Then again it could be vince gilligan trying to make us THINK that is what will happen. Either way, shit is about to get real. Like real real son lol.
I dont think there is any doubt Hank is going to catch on to Walt this season. and Skylar dies she has to. I think its going to be by accident. she'll be looking for a cig and find the ricin cig and dies. a toxicology report comes out and Hank finds out it was by Ricin poisoning. He then takes a closer look at Walt then blows up the whole operation Mike dies in a shoot out with the Feds Walt has a face off with Hank and some how Hank dies and Walt gets away
Skylar is not gonna die.
Cuz the story s getting a little bit pussy.
Writers are not that serious.
But i really want Walt kill Skylar.
Cuz i hate that cheater, money lover, fake mommy type woman.
I just wanna share something. I think its interesting.
Just look at the episode writers here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes)
* The first and last episodes are always belong to ''Vince Gilligan''
So that means he has the story (the real story but short).
And the other episodes between first and last are just expandion.
He just come in to the room and throw the story to the other writers and says ''hey people loved that serie. Make it longer, bye''
It's really more complicated than that. Sure, each season is like a movie where there is one slow main storyline, but it's not like Gilligan just says "Alright Fring's gotta die this year, I'll write the first episode where I kill of Victor, but fuck it you guys come up with the next 12 episodes". (Good) Shows normally have a crew of writers that's guided by the creator/executive producer. Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showrunner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showrunner)
The best example of this is David Milch. I saw short documentary on the Deadwood DVDs about the writing process of that show. Milch was the showrunner/creator and according to the credits he only wrote the first episode of every season. But in what I watched you see him meticulously re-writing every line of dialog his staff came up with (what a dick). Seemed like the writing staff's purpose was to just suggest storylines and some dialog to him. Yet, he only got writing credits for about 1/6 of the total episodes. /end nerd rant.
So... yeah Skyler needs to stop being a sad sack and die.
I understand the point.
But I think thats a little bit lame.
Why do they scare about being creative or coming up with new things?
If Skylar dies, im gonna change everything about this serie in my mind.
But to me, i think Mike is gonna be the surprise dead guy of the season.
I really wish that cunt would die already yeah... I can't stand her anymore... I already hated her character for few seasons, but fuck, she brought this to a whole new level of hate with these 1st few episodes....
Well at least she's not THE worst. Lori from Walking Dead is a bitch that definitely has to get merked.
And Mike is coolest grandpa ever.
I just think someone close to Walt has to die. This is pretty much a story of a man morality eroding from the path in life he's choosing. So i think it will take either Skylar's accidental death or maybe one of his kids dying to finally turn him into a complete monster. In a "You don't change the world, the world changes you" kind of way.
Usually I'm on the "Please Skylar die already!" bandwagon, but I have to say I actually feel sympathy towards her. Granted, she got into bed with Walt in the Meth business fully understanding what that entailed for her and their marriage. However, I think with Gus' death and Benneke's injury it's starting to hit her that this was a bad decision on her part. I think she feels guilt now for bringing the whole family into this game. It's not like she can leave now, either. Walt is deep in the business and she has her family to think about. Any move she makes could put her and her family's life in jeopardy. She may be a bitch, but she's still a mother and at this point she's doing anything she can to make sure the kids are safe.
"I'm waiting for the cancer to come back". Such a chilling line. So horrible, too. Especially on Walt's birthday but I think it totally encompasses how much she hates Walt and how frightened she is of him.
I also loved the whole "I'm a sexist" conversation Mike had with Jesse, too. It tickled my funny bone in such an intense episode.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 09, 2012, 03:17 AM
Lori from Walking Dead is a bitch that definitely has to get merked.
I've stopped watching TWD after ep 3 or 4 of the 2nd season cause it was so fucking slow and boring...
I can't put myself to get back into it...
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Aug 09, 2012, 07:16 AM
Any move she makes could put her and her family's life in jeopardy. She may be a bitch, but she's still a mother and at this point she's doing anything she can to make sure the kids are safe.
"I'm waiting for the cancer to come back". Such a chilling line. So horrible, too. Especially on Walt's birthday but I think it totally encompasses how much she hates Walt and how frightened she is of him.
You make a good point, but this birthday business reminded me of something that slipped my mind. Didn't the very first episode have Walt turning 50 and have the bacon on his plate? Now he turned 51. And the 5th season premiere's flash forward had him turning 52, while putting bacon pieces on his plate. Just thought it was an interesting and subtle way to tell us the timeline.
a german newspaper is reporting that they are shooting a few final scences in Hannover, Germany. the whole cast is supposedly to take place in it! I wonder where that is going to fit in..
the amount of german in the next episodes is also supposed to be more than the spanish parts in the other seasons
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 09, 2012, 09:32 AM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 09, 2012, 03:17 AM
Lori from Walking Dead is a bitch that definitely has to get merked.
I've stopped watching TWD after ep 3 or 4 of the 2nd season cause it was so fucking slow and boring...
I can't put myself to get back into it...
Stick with it.
I almost gave up on it myself, but the last 6 episodes of the season are pretty damn great.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 09, 2012, 02:38 PM
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Aug 09, 2012, 07:16 AM
Any move she makes could put her and her family's life in jeopardy. She may be a bitch, but she's still a mother and at this point she's doing anything she can to make sure the kids are safe.
"I'm waiting for the cancer to come back". Such a chilling line. So horrible, too. Especially on Walt's birthday but I think it totally encompasses how much she hates Walt and how frightened she is of him.
You make a good point, but this birthday business reminded me of something that slipped my mind. Didn't the very first episode have Walt turning 50 and have the bacon on his plate? Now he turned 51. And the 5th season premiere's flash forward had him turning 52, while putting bacon pieces on his plate. Just thought it was an interesting and subtle way to tell us the timeline.
I was thinking the same thing while watching the episode, which is making me more curious. I can't believe the past four seasons have equated to just one year in the
Breaking Bad world.
Pilot episode with veggie bacon
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Season 5, 1st episode at the Denny's
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Season 5, 4th episode
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but he uses a fake name, i.d, in first ep of season 5. if he got one made does he use the same birthday then I guess?
He could be a few years older still. may just have wanted to say 52 because he felt that was the order it should have been when it was simple. when he's really 56 or something because of how crazy things have gotten and forgot his other bdays.
that first ep is really fuckin' with me
Quote from: schlueter on Aug 10, 2012, 04:27 PM
He could be a few years older still. may just have wanted to say 52 because he felt that was the order it should have been when it was simple. when he's really 56 or something because of how crazy things have gotten and forgot his other bdays.
That would just be dumb.
It makes perfect sense that he's 52 in that scene.
50-51: Walt's rise to the top.
51-52: Walt's downward spiral.
I agree with theis. It's most likely that the opening scenes are from walt's downfall, most likely about a year later, in Breaking Bad time. He's getting serious in terms of his grandiose thinking. Not that Walt isn't a smart guy, but he really knows nothing about the game, as they say in The Wire. Cooking meth does not give him knowledge of truly running a drug dealing operation. It's most likely that he will just continue with his crazy thinking until it gets him killed. Or at least someone in the family.
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Aug 12, 2012, 09:27 PM
I agree with theis. It's most likely that the opening scenes are from walt's downfall, most likely about a year later, in Breaking Bad time. He's getting serious in terms of his grandiose thinking. Not that Walt isn't a smart guy, but he really knows nothing about the game, as they say in The Wire. Cooking meth does not give him knowledge of truly running a drug dealing operation. It's most likely that he will just continue with his crazy thinking until it gets him killed. Or at least someone in the family.
Exactly what I think. Walt is book smart, but not street smart. He keeps thinking the two are one in the same. I'm really surprised he hasn't been killed from that mentality, either. He really needs to stick with what he knows and let Mike deal with the business side of things. Like Marlo in
The Wire, he's overstepping his boundaries.
What an episode. I wonder where they're going with this Todd character...
made it more creepy re watching the opening and hearing the train whistle in the distance
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 13, 2012, 03:31 AM
What an episode. I wonder where they're going with this Todd character...
I was sure he would be an undercover cop or something. Well, my mind quickly changed on that, haha.
Amazing episode! Tension was off the roof.
Man, I have never been that nervous watching a television show before! Great scene, however the ending broke my heart. I'm assuming Todd will be more prominent in the show after this...?
Jesus Christ, all I can say.
So the Reservoir Dogs allusions on BB have been around for awhile, but now this season we've had actual mentions of Scarface, where "everyone dies", and of Heat, in an episode featuring a heist. Is Gilligan trying to tell us something?
Last episode was fantastic. I too was thinking this Todd character might be an undercover cop or something but... definitely not. He's certainly fucked shit up though. Can't wait for next week. Walt is letting his ego get out of control. He's changed a lot in a year.
I agree, his ego will probably end up being the death of him. I do kind of appreciate that they are trying to take the character that way though. One thing we should all have been able to glean from the very first season of this show is that their is not going to be a happy ending. Doesn't mean things might not work out, in a way, but it doesn't mean everything will end with smiles and sunshine. The show is not just a character study, but also a study of the meth game. Regardless of how walt is becoming more ruthless and egocentric, it's understandable because to be in that type of work you kind of need to be those things. Walt has now realized what Skyler is to stupid to see, that he cannot be half in half out with this game. He has to be all in and he understands that now. How HIS perception of that will affect him in the future remains to be completely seen. That's what is the most irritating about the character of Skyler. She never really wanted to be in, she just wanted to benefit from the end result of the business. That's nice but unfortunately that is not the way the drug game works. With any drug, even pot. That's why it's irritating that she has become such a crazy, judgemental bitch. She was happy to count the money, but she didn't consider the fact that shit will eventually get real. She should have considered that long before she agreed to become a serious part of what Walt does. Now that's she's in as deep as she is she needs to either deal with that and get on board, or basically die. Or at least leave. And I don't mean her leaving with the kids, I mean her leaving by herself. She put the kids in just as much danger as Walt by agreeing to be a part of what Walt does without even remotely considering all the aspects that go into that line of work. At least Walt is, mostly, aware of what kind of shit he is getting into.
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...Bitch!
Haha I had no idea he was in commercial for that cereal. I'm grown now and I still eat that shit.
He was also in an episode of The X-Files called Lord of the Flies
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bitch
holy shit I remember that episode! the daredevil one! I think it was from the shitty last season of the show.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Aug 14, 2012, 03:17 PM
Last episode was fantastic. I too was thinking this Todd character might be an undercover cop or something but... definitely not. He's certainly fucked shit up though. Can't wait for next week. Walt is letting his ego get out of control. He's changed a lot in a year.
I thought Todd was a Cop the whole time. i wonder how they are going to cover this up?
That dinner scene...hahahaha.
Aaron paul's acting in that scene was so good, funny shit.
about the watch,i don't know but the reason they zoomed it in and made it look important in that episode could be that later on walt drops it at a crime scene/meth lab and then hank finds it .. and hank commented on the clock shortly after walt received it so it could be the object that reveals walt in a future episode
or maybe the watch symbolizes that the clock is ticking on Walt, so to speak.
that intro scene to the new episode was incredible, though. awesome music, the 4 guys working in silence, i got chills when we saw the kid's hand sticking out of the dirt.
The first three minutes of the episode was really haunting. I get the feeling that Todd will come back again. It was awful when he was trying to defend himself when he killed that boy. You can't defend that and the fact that he tried to was sickening. I will admit I got a little happy when Jesse punched him. Todd is a despicable character. He truly is a whack job.
I thought Jesse shined through this episode. That dinner scene was awkward and priceless. This season proves just how big of a heart Jesse has and he's just not cut out for this business.
I'm curious on how the rest of the season is going to play out between Skyler and Walt. It's a bomb waiting to explode. I'm also feeling more and more sympathetic towards Skyler. It feels as if Walt is just rubbing the business in her face as maybe a way of asserting power over her and their marriage. The dinner scene is a perfect example of that. Walt insists Jesse stay for dinner even though you can tell Skyler isn't having any of it. She's on a path for self-destruction at this point. I get the feeling things are not going to end well for her.
The last minute of the episode was awesome. I'm stoked for next week's episode.
skylars going to kill walt.
Quote from: deftones86 on Aug 22, 2012, 05:44 AM
skylars going to kill walt.
Haha, never in a million years. It's gonna be the other way around.
you're both wrong.obviously, walter jr is going to kill them both.didn't you see how he's becoming darker and darker and turning into this new character "emo mcgee" ? once he's 100% this new persona,that's about the same time he finds out about all the things going on behind his back.mad as hell,now using his father's meth,shit's gonna hit the fan.he will be like a retarded tuco. i'm also interested in what they're going to do with the baby character holly. my guess is that the're gonna start the series again in the future, just like dallas, but then she's grown up, wearing the heisenberg hat, continuing her father's plan
That's why you don't take away Walt Jr.'s/Flynn's breakfast.
Shit. Will. Hit. The. Fan.
Breaking Bad - Mentos Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQG5_rR4hog#ws)
Quote from: deftones86 on Aug 22, 2012, 05:44 AM
skylars going to kill walt.
All Skylar do is being a bitch.
She is gonna cheat him again.
Fuckin bitch.
Walt is becoming...devil..
Btw i love Walter Junior character.
I belive he is gonna break the bad, too.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Aug 23, 2012, 12:32 AM
Quote from: deftones86 on Aug 22, 2012, 05:44 AM
skylars going to kill walt.
All Skylar do is being a bitch.
She is gonna cheat him again.
Fuckin bitch.
Walt is becoming...devil..
Btw i love Walter Junior character.
I belive he is gonna break the bad, too.
Skylar does act like a bitch, I mean damn she could just sit back and let the money roll in. really she lets her morality override everything. being the only character in the know with any sense of moral obligation, she seems like the one who will bring it all down. which is why either she kills walt or she dies. there is no way this story can continue with both of them alive. She not going to wake up one day and think "oh well this is ok Walt cooks meth and makes me money". If some how that does happen the whole series is a farce and i wont watch it. walt may have at one point been a good man but he changed in to this monster whos greed has out shined his morality. maybe because he stared death in the face and figured if he can beat cancer nothing can touch him. walt is the kind of person who thinks he is smarter than everyone else and that will be his undoing.
I almost positive that Skylar will get killed within the next two episodes. That will probably be the cliffhanger before the season break.
Negative.
The detective guy is gonna find the part Walt inserted to his computer and he is gonna start to think about Walt.
Somehow he is gonna help them too..
Thats my opinion because their story development is a little bit pussy.
Sky can turn back to the guy to make Walt even more angry.
That sounds like a pussy cliffhanger. Theis' idea of a cliffhanger sounds more like a cliffhanger. It's plausible because we'll have to wait a whole fucking year before we find out what happens and make the fans even more anxious to watch the next season.
I think someone will die in episode 8. Skyler's the obvious choice, but what about Mike?
I think if it is Mike it'll be a fluke. Walt is smart, but I don't think he's that smart to take on Mike. Mike is a pretty astute, aware and cautious guy. The only way I could see Walt killing Mike is if it is by accident. Either that, or Lydia comes after Mike....again. Mike would definitely be a hard target to kill.
Skyler could die as well, but it might be too obvious of a choice. What happens if it was one of the kids? I think that's a choice that's least likely to happen, but it would be shocking nonetheless.
Good episode I suppose. I was irritated by it more than anything. I'm so tired of Skyler. I understand that we're not supposed to like her but at this point she is negatively affecting the show. She's adding nothing and bringing it to a halt whenever she is on screen. If she's not dead within the next 2 episodes, I am going to seriously reconsider continuing to watch this season. She has not right to be such a cunt. They need to either have something happen that makes her check her entire bitchy, retarded attitude and straighten up and fly right or kill her. Or have her sent to a mental institution or something. If they don't get rid of her soon, I might be done with this show. I realize it's just a TV show, but at this point I literally feel insulted by the writers. How long do they expect us to sit through all her bullshit and keep watching? As soon as she got rid of the kids and said she wanted walt's cancer to come back she became useless to have on the show. She's served her purpose.
I'm going to GREATLY disagree with you on this one. If this were the fourth season, I would have probably agreed with you. For me, Skyler has actually become a likable and sympathetic character and it's a little unfair to call her a bitch at this point. In the past, yes, she has done some annoying things but how can you not feel sympathy for her? Her husband makes meth! Walt entered this business without her consent. She didn't have a say in this. At all. She was left with a choice and she chose the best decision in a series of horrible decisions--stay with him and launder his money. Just because she made that decision doesn't mean she has to be happy about it and it's obvious his career path hasn't sat well with her, which it shouldn't.
Now with people getting hurt and killed in this business, it's hitting her that this business her husband dragged her into is dangerous. He's no longer just the cook, he's the kingpin. She has seen a change in Walt for the complete worse. She has to think about the children now. Walt insists the children are in no danger, but considering the fact Gus threatened to kill his newborn, the audience knows its complete bullshit. Walt obviously doesn't have anything in control anymore. I don't blame Skyler for having a mental breakdown. Her life has been turned completely upside down and she has just realized she is married to a monster. None of this was her doing. It fell into her lap. That doesn't make her a bitch--it makes her human.
If she were to be completely normal while in this business with Walt, that would have been bad writing on the writers' part.
^ Femminist
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Aug 24, 2012, 07:04 AM
I'm going to GREATLY disagree with you on this one. If this were the fourth season, I would have probably agreed with you. For me, Skyler has actually become a likable and sympathetic character and it's a little unfair to call her a bitch at this point. In the past, yes, she has done some annoying things but how can you not feel sympathy for her? Her husband makes meth! Walt entered this business without her consent. She didn't have a say in this. At all. She was left with a choice and she chose the best decision in a series of horrible decisions--stay with him and launder his money. Just because she made that decision doesn't mean she has to be happy about it and it's obvious his career path hasn't sat well with her, which it shouldn't.
Now with people getting hurt and killed in this business, it's hitting her that this business her husband dragged her into is dangerous. He's no longer just the cook, he's the kingpin. She has seen a change in Walt for the complete worse. She has to think about the children now. Walt insists the children are in no danger, but considering the fact Gus threatened to kill his newborn, the audience knows its complete bullshit. Walt obviously doesn't have anything in control anymore. I don't blame Skyler for having a mental breakdown. Her life has been turned completely upside down and she has just realized she is married to a monster. None of this was her doing. It fell into her lap. That doesn't make her a bitch--it makes her human.
If she were to be completely normal while in this business with Walt, that would have been bad writing on the writers' part.
You are basically right. I still don't have any sympathy for her though. I did at a point, but not after some of the things she has said. Yes, Walt is the one who started everything without her knowledge. But what she has no ability to understand is that he did it all for her. And the reason he got back in was because he had to save her ass after she STOLE HIS MONEY and gave it to some guy that she used to fuck. The money is, or was initially, for her and the children but she doesn't give a shit. I don't believe she even really gives a shit about the kids. Everything is about her. Oh Walt I'm your prisoner wah wah wah. She had ample opportunity to act like a woman who gave a shit and leave when she first learned what was happening. She made her choice. Not only did she choose to stay, she chose to get INTO the business. Almost happily at first. Because all she cared about was the money. Not once did she ever think REALLY think about what Walt was going through to get it. And now she's getting freaked out because bad things are happening. Well no shit bad things will happen. It's the fucking meth business. She should have thought about what she was getting into. She could have given up Walt and left with the kids long ago. But she couldn't resist the money because that's all she cares about. And not for her family. Just what it could do for her. Walt is selfish, but so is she. I just think it's really stupid to knowingly get into that kind of business, and then be surprised when negative things start happening. I understand her being conflicted, but she signed up so she can feel free to get over it. Walt may have made the choice to do it in the first place, but she ultimately chose to make herself a serious part of it. She wants to take no responsibility for anything she has done, or hasn't done, and blame everything on Walt. There is nothing I hate more than people who refuse to examine their own actions. I could go on and on but you get my drift. She's in now, that was her choice, and not only does she now have to live with it. She has to be all in. I don't really give a fuck what's going on. You're husband starts this to take care of you and the kids, you find out and rather than be rational and leave, you go right along with it and make yourself an integral part of it. Then when things stop working completely to YOUR advantage and only then do you start having moral issues. Then you have the balls to tell him you want him to die from the very thing that pushed him into this life in the first place. And he didn't do it for him he did it for you. Give me a break. It's like she wants to live in some fantasy world where Walt just makes shitloads of disposable money that she can give away to old fuck buddies, and he cooks meth, but nothing bad ever comes from it. I will say that it speaks to the writing of this show that they can make a character like her so incredibly unsympathetic. As you stated, it's pretty relevant for her to feel the way she does. At least it WAS in the past, but not anymore. I'm just waiting for her to get bodied. Ok enough ranting lol
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Aug 24, 2012, 08:36 AM
^ Femminist
And fucking proud of it! 8)
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Quote from: chick de la lynch on Aug 24, 2012, 07:04 AM
I'm going to GREATLY disagree with you on this one. If this were the fourth season, I would have probably agreed with you. For me, Skyler has actually become a likable and sympathetic character and it's a little unfair to call her a bitch at this point. In the past, yes, she has done some annoying things but how can you not feel sympathy for her? Her husband makes meth! Walt entered this business without her consent. She didn't have a say in this. At all. She was left with a choice and she chose the best decision in a series of horrible decisions--stay with him and launder his money. Just because she made that decision doesn't mean she has to be happy about it and it's obvious his career path hasn't sat well with her, which it shouldn't.
Now with people getting hurt and killed in this business, it's hitting her that this business her husband dragged her into is dangerous. He's no longer just the cook, he's the kingpin. She has seen a change in Walt for the complete worse. She has to think about the children now. Walt insists the children are in no danger, but considering the fact Gus threatened to kill his newborn, the audience knows its complete bullshit. Walt obviously doesn't have anything in control anymore. I don't blame Skyler for having a mental breakdown. Her life has been turned completely upside down and she has just realized she is married to a monster. None of this was her doing. It fell into her lap. That doesn't make her a bitch--it makes her human.
If she were to be completely normal while in this business with Walt, that would have been bad writing on the writers' part.
You are basically right. I still don't have any sympathy for her though. I did at a point, but not after some of the things she has said. Yes, Walt is the one who started everything without her knowledge. But what she has no ability to understand is that he did it all for her. And the reason he got back in was because he had to save her ass after she STOLE HIS MONEY and gave it to some guy that she used to fuck. The money is, or was initially, for her and the children but she doesn't give a shit. I don't believe she even really gives a shit about the kids. Everything is about her. Oh Walt I'm your prisoner wah wah wah. She had ample opportunity to act like a woman who gave a shit and leave when she first learned what was happening. She made her choice. Not only did she choose to stay, she chose to get INTO the business. Almost happily at first. Because all she cared about was the money. Not once did she ever think REALLY think about what Walt was going through to get it. And now she's getting freaked out because bad things are happening. Well no shit bad things will happen. It's the fucking meth business. She should have thought about what she was getting into. She could have given up Walt and left with the kids long ago. But she couldn't resist the money because that's all she cares about. And not for her family. Just what it could do for her. Walt is selfish, but so is she. I just think it's really stupid to knowingly get into that kind of business, and then be surprised when negative things start happening. I understand her being conflicted, but she signed up so she can feel free to get over it. Walt may have made the choice to do it in the first place, but she ultimately chose to make herself a serious part of it. She wants to take no responsibility for anything she has done, or hasn't done, and blame everything on Walt. There is nothing I hate more than people who refuse to examine their own actions. I could go on and on but you get my drift. She's in now, that was her choice, and not only does she now have to live with it. She has to be all in. I don't really give a fuck what's going on. You're husband starts this to take care of you and the kids, you find out and rather than be rational and leave, you go right along with it and make yourself an integral part of it. Then when things stop working completely to YOUR advantage and only then do you start having moral issues. Then you have the balls to tell him you want him to die from the very thing that pushed him into this life in the first place. And he didn't do it for him he did it for you. Give me a break. It's like she wants to live in some fantasy world where Walt just makes shitloads of disposable money that she can give away to old fuck buddies, and he cooks meth, but nothing bad ever comes from it. I will say that it speaks to the writing of this show that they can make a character like her so incredibly unsympathetic. As you stated, it's pretty relevant for her to feel the way she does. At least it WAS in the past, but not anymore. I'm just waiting for her to get bodied. Ok enough ranting lol
I do agree with you that part of the reason she made the decision to stay was out of greed, but that's only part of the reason why she stayed. Skyler cheating on Walt is child's play compared to the people that have died because of Walt. And Skyler giving Benneke money wasn't completely fucked up. She was making use and putting the drug money up for good. That being said, it may have come from a good place but in the end it was obviously a stupid decision since that fucker couldn't even save a penny. My brother put this in perspective for me a few days ago and NOTHING Skyler has done compares to what Walt as done. It made me realize that Skyler had nothing coming to her. I do think she has been an annoying character but looking back, she's been rational and logical up to season 5. At the time when she decided to stay with Walt, there was still a part of her that loved him, thought well of him. Walt originally got into the meth business for the family. Now he's in it to feed his ego.
Skyler was concerned about the image for both her and and the family. She wanted to protect Walt when she first found out about his shenanigans because like I said previously, she still cared for him. It was when she realized how deep in the business he got when she started getting frightened. She realized she could easily be snuffed out if she ever got in Walt's way. I don't know about you, but the idea of my spouse having the means and opportunity to kill me whenever they wanted is a frightening prospect. At this point, she's deep into the business, too. She has no other option. Should she have left Walt the minute she found out about his business? Yes, but Walt is the father of her children. That would mean having to open that can of worms to her children, who she has been fighting to protect since she found out. And having said father of her children land himself into jail, and having her brother-in-law arrest him and ultimately splitting up her family and essentially making her life a living hell. Leaving Walt wasn't the best plan in the world. And I'm sure if Skyler left, Walt would have found her and killed her. To say Skyler has any responsibility in this is a stretch. Walt chose to go down this path and put Skyler in this predicament without her consent. Skyler chose a route that would keep everyone safe. She made a decision based on the fact that there was a gun to her head. She made this decision based on the fact that Walt was just a cook, not a drug lord. Skyler thought she was making a good decision in a sea of bad decisions. At this point, she didn't realize what Walt had turned in to.
Walt is a monster now. A very unlikable character. A man who obviously has problems with his own masculinity. A man who is just pure evil now. I don't blame Skyler for acting the way she is. I commend her for attempting to keep it together and Walt is still dragging her into shit she doesn't want to be apart of. At least I can say Skyler is a human being who cares about the people who get hurt or die around her. Walt is a fucking lost cause.
I ultimately agree with your points. She has always been a bit annoying, but it's not until pretty recently that she's become a bitch. And fairly rightfully so. The melodramatics are what bothers me. She's had plenty of opportunity to leave, and she still could figure out a way to do so if she REALLY wanted to. Also she's so worried about the kids, which is relevant. I just don't think it's as relevant as she makes it out to be. Nothing she could do about Flynn, but she didn't have to have the baby. Probably would have been a good idea seeing as how they had no idea how to pay for it. I have no respect for people who do things like that. You are right though that nothing she has done compares to Walt's deeds. I still will never think that it is okay to wish cancer on anyone though. I just feel like from the beginning of the show when he was diagnosed, she manages to ultimately make everything about her, sometimes rightfully so, but it's annoying regardless. Walt is a bad guy at this point, no question. But that is kind of the point of the show. I mean, it is called Breaking Bad. My feeling is just that if a character is not moving the show forward, any character, I don't care to see them in the show. I feel like that is what is starting to happen with the character of Skyler. She reminds me of Winona from Justified in the sense that, NOW, anytime she is on screen it pretty much brings the momentum of the episode to a halt.
I haven't seen Justified (Hopefully soon!), but my brother and I were talking about it and we both agreed that Betsy Brandt (Marie) would have made a much better Skyler than Anna Gunn. I think part of the fact that people don't like her is because it's a mismatch of character and actress. It's not that she's bad it's just not a good combo. She's also just a legitimately annoying character. She was reasonable in the first few seasons, she just did it in an annoying way. It's probably why it feels like everything comes to a screeching halt when she comes on to screen, but I'm waiting to see if she really does kick the bucket before season's end. I heard there was a "I hate Skyler White" Facebook page.
I definitely agree with you that she was really awful when she wished the cancer would come back to Walt. ESPECIALLY on his birthday. Yeah, he's horrible but I don't think anyone deserves that comment.
o m g
Quote from: lithium on Aug 27, 2012, 03:03 AM
o m g
indeed. loved how they let that final scene sink in with the viewer by seemingly taking forever to show the end credits screen.
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Aug 24, 2012, 12:05 AM
I think if it is Mike it'll be a fluke. Walt is smart, but I don't think he's that smart to take on Mike. Mike is a pretty astute, aware and cautious guy. The only way I could see Walt killing Mike is if it is by accident. Either that, or Lydia comes after Mike....again. Mike would definitely be a hard target to kill.
Could you count it as an accident, technically? I don't know. Either way the minute I saw the gun in the bag I knew Walt was going to get Mike. I'm a little sad. Mike was such an awesome character.
"Just shut the fuck up and let me die in peace"
what is Jesse going to do now? His fondness of mike was pretty obvious. I think that got to Walt too. Walt's going to kill everyone. he doesn't mind a body count, hes already going to hell.
Did anyone else have Destiny's Child "Say My Name" stuck in their head for the first five minutes of the episode?
God I hated that line.
Quote from: lithium on Aug 28, 2012, 03:13 AM
God I hated that line.
What?
It was beyond awesome.
One of the best openings in Breaking Bad.
I wish they hadn't shown Mike's gun in the bag before Walt met with him. I saw it coming the instant I saw that gun.
Sad to see such a great character go... :(
Someone should die alive in on HCI (acid) for the season finale.
Why Walt act like an asshole?
At least he could say he will take care of grandchild or something..
I enjoyed this. A LOT. My dreams came true. I want there to be a video now.
http://engaged19times.tumblr.com/post/30347477440/say-my-name-destinys-child-ft-walter-white (http://engaged19times.tumblr.com/post/30347477440/say-my-name-destinys-child-ft-walter-white)
It's all gonna come back to the opening scene this season. Walt and that PKM. Someone close to him is gonna die, either Slyker or Jesse, and he's either gonna have to take down Declan and his crew. OR he's on the run from the DEA, and he's gonna go down all Tony Montana.
Which also ties into the Jesse James references this season. Jesse James and Tony Montana were both shot and killed from behind.........
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Quote from: lithium on Aug 28, 2012, 03:13 AM
God I hated that line.
What?
It was beyond awesome.
One of the best openings in Breaking Bad.
I wish they hadn't shown Mike's gun in the bag before Walt met with him. I saw it coming the instant I saw that gun.
Sad to see such a great character go... :(
The scene was badass, just that particular line "say my name" was, IMO, silly.
Such a great episode, and great finale. There wasn't a weak scene at all. And that montage set to "Crystal Blue Persuasion"... just beautiful.
"You got me"
My jaw dropped.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Aug 23, 2012, 01:33 PM
The detective guy is gonna find the part Walt inserted to his computer and he is gonna start to think about Walt.
Somehow he is gonna help them too..
Thats my opinion because their story development is a little bit pussy.
Sky can turn back to the guy to make Walt even more angry.
i totally forgot about the other evidences of Walts clues. But if he start from the begining (like that missing test tubes, a chemist, Walts money etc) he can understand that Heisenberg is Walt.
My toughts, he is gonna find out..but a little bit longer.
Then somehow he is gonna have to hide Walt and help him. Just like Sky did.
Fuck you AMC for letting me wait almost a year for the next episode.
Leaving us with an episode ending like that is just pure torture!
Goddamnit, everything in those last 2 minutes just WORKED! With the flashbacks and all...chills, motherfucker!
THE SHIT HAS HIT THE FAN.
wait that was the end of the season?
damn...
Anyone want to remind how Hank had the note to WW as evidence last season from Gail? Was it in Gail's chemistry/meth notebook?
Who knew Hank would start putting it all together on the shitter? Now that's how you end a season!
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Sep 04, 2012, 12:09 AM
Who knew Hank would start putting it all together on the shitter? Now that's how you end a season!
I do my best thinking on the throne.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 04, 2012, 12:06 AM
Was it in Gail's chemistry/meth notebook?
Yes, i remember. Walt family was guest to Hank's. Hank was checking that note with Walt then saw WW
Breaking Bad fan tribute - The Journey of Walter White (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djaLf6bgFuU#ws)
pretty sweet video. give this show every Emmy out there.
pretty sweet indeed.
how would you rate this with shows like, the wire, the sopranos, lost, oz?
maybe not so much lost, but, would you rank it among the best shows ever?
If I were to rank Breaking Bad, it would definitely be up there with The Wire as one of the greatest shows ever made. It wouldn't surpass The Wire because c'mon! It's the fucking Wire!
There aren't too many shows out there where the protagonist becomes the antagonist over the progression of the series. Many shows want to keep their main characters sympathetic, however Breaking Bad just throws that out the window. It's refreshing. It's a show that doesn't follow typical conventions. I can't predict the next thing that will happen. Sometimes I can, but most of the time Breaking Bad surprises me.
i'd put breaking bad over the wire, but not the sopranos.
then again, i'd put the simpsons over everything.
I was talking to my friend the other day on how if you ever wanted to learn anything about anything, you could just pop in an episode of The Simpsons. They've covered/joked about every other topic you can think of. I'm always referencing back to it or quoting it. Classic television right there.
Breakin Bad is absolutely not the best show ever made.
It may hit top10.
''There aren't too many shows out there where the protagonist becomes the antagonist over the progression of the series''
Even The Oz is way better on that one. And your point is totally false.
Because after the 1st episode of Breaking Bad every charachter is the same.
Walt is bad, walt j is good, sky is bitch, Hank is good, his wife is drama queen, Jess is good etc.. And none of them changed or died.
I always like to separate comedy from dramas. Simpsons and Seinfeld are 2 of my favorite shows, but I gotta put The Wire as number 1 overall. Breaking Bad is probably in 2nd for dramas. Such a tough question though. I hold some shows in high regard from the 90s and 00s but some I never really want to see again. So is might downgrade some. Some awesome shows get canceled early on (especially comedies) so it's hard to judge them compared to shows that got to conclude their stories.
I think a few shows on the air currently have shots at being in the top 10 all time. Great, now the nerd in me wants to go find and list all my favorite shows ever.
a poll would be cool..
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Sep 08, 2012, 09:48 AM
Breakin Bad is absolutely not the best show ever made.
It may hit top10.
''There aren't too many shows out there where the protagonist becomes the antagonist over the progression of the series''
Even The Oz is way better on that one. And your point is totally false.
Because after the 1st episode of Breaking Bad every charachter is the same.
Walt is bad, walt j is good, sky is bitch, Hank is good, his wife is drama queen, Jess is good etc.. And none of them changed or died.
Huh? I seriously wonder if you're watching the same things the rest of us are.
I think calling "Walt good, Walt bad" is called CHANGE. These characters are constantly changing! Jesse has changed quite a bit and to say he hasn't is being neglectful. The Jesse from the first season was way more self-centered than the Jesse we're with now. Jesse has let himself soften up more. He's even gotten smarter. People are going to disagree with me on this one, but Skyler has managed to become sympathetic as the seasons have gone on.
If anything, your point is false.
I know my taste is way different than yours.
You may call it ''my best show ever'' but you cant say ''rest of us thinks that way''
I've watched every episode of this serie but like i said ''nothing really changed''
We all know Jesse cant kill a boy and if he kill a man still feel bad about it. So he is still the same guy.
Just like other charz.
Like i said, you want ''changes'', watch The Oz.
Here's a few series that i love (some of them are absolutely better than BB) :
Game of thrones
prison break
six feet under
Mad Man
Heroes season 1
Dexter
Spartacus
Lost 1
Kyle XY
True Blood
The Oc 1
battlestar galactica
house,
dr who
grey's anatomy
magic city
nip tuck
My favorite comedy show would be:
1- Coupling
1,5- KRAMER
2- Friends 1-2-3
3- Simpsons
4- South Park
5- Two and a half man
6- How i met your mother
7- The big bang theory
wow some of those shows are terrible dude!!
Reading rock_n_frost's posts makes my brain hurt.
Ugh...
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wheres this from?
Quote from: lithium on Sep 09, 2012, 12:01 AM
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wheres this from?
I don't know, actually.
Just found it randomly.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Sep 09, 2012, 08:29 AM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 08, 2012, 11:38 PM
Quote from: lithium on Sep 08, 2012, 11:07 PM
wow some of those shows are terrible dude!!
which ones?
it's your opinion man, so that's cool. Millions of people agree with calling Two and a Half Men a spectacular show. I just don't find that and The Big Bang Theory funny at all. And I love the O.C. as must as the next bro (Autumn Reeser!!!), but I hope we're not having a conversation about how great it is compared to Breaking Bad.
Nope breaking bad is way better than it clearly.
i just listed some of my favorite shows.
some of them may be better than BB for you.
but cause most of those shows ended or get old doesnt mean breaking bad is better than everything else out there.
Breaking Bad has high points and being loved because its still on and its one of the best on TV right now.
2 years later i say we are gonna say the same thing with BB, like we did with ''lost, prison break etc..''
My point is Breaking Bad is one of the best show right now, but its DEFINETELY not the best show ever.
EDIT: I donno if i add animes to those series but ''death note'' and ''elfen lied'' would be in my top5 series.
saw this on r/breakingbad
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pretty much sums it up.
We need to stop comparing many of these shows TO EACH OTHER. Many of the mentioned shows are great, but especially with shows like BB and The Wire I don't really think they should be COMPLETELY compared to each other. I feel like many shows are on a similar level of greatness, just in different ways. BTW I know it's in another thread but is anyone gonna watch new Sons of Anarchy soon. I've been rewatching and can't decide if I want to continue into the new season or not. I know it's the point, but all the characters are just really bad people. Each episode I watch makes it harder for me to be 'okay' with the show and the characters. Oddly enough that doesn't happen to me with BB or the Wire. Maybe it's a credit to SOA's writers but I would call more of a bad thing.
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Sep 10, 2012, 01:51 PM
BTW I know it's in another thread but is anyone gonna watch new Sons of Anarchy soon. I've been rewatching and can't decide if I want to continue into the new season or not. I know it's the point, but all the characters are just really bad people. Each episode I watch makes it harder for me to be 'okay' with the show and the characters. Oddly enough that doesn't happen to me with BB or the Wire. Maybe it's a credit to SOA's writers but I would call more of a bad thing.
I'm committed to staying with it. I like the characters, but my problem is with Clay still being alive. But now I know there's still another couple seasons left, so I'm sticking with it. I like the show too much to leave. And the actors added to the cast this season are pretty great.
I can't wait for SOA to start.
Thought season 4 was fan-fucking-tastic.
Quote from: lithium on Sep 09, 2012, 12:01 AM
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wheres this from?
I have also wondered that for a long time haha
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Sep 10, 2012, 07:04 PM
Quote from: lithium on Sep 09, 2012, 12:01 AM
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wheres this from?
I have also wondered that for a long time haha
I believe it's from a wrap party they supposedly have every year when they're done filming. Here's a couple from other seasons.
(http://www.oneheadlightink.com/sindication/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/br-ba-wrap-1.jpg)
(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/cranston-paul2.jpg)
Looks like a pretty bitchin party!!
so yeah, I'm excited about Hank finally picking up the trail on Walt. but the way he did it was pretty lame...
check this out
edit: super big, heres the link
http://imgur.com/apV0Q (http://imgur.com/apV0Q)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m928rp9Z561r4y2uho1_500.gif)
Been a fan since the first episode. It has passed Six Feet Under for my favorite tv show of all time. AMC sucks for splitting it up.
I finally got caught up on this last night since I can't watch it without my gf and we have very conflicting schedules and HO,LEE,SHIT!! Reaffirming why it's surpassed OZ as my all time favourite drama. Can't wait for it to come back. My mind is blown by awesomeness. Every preconception about everything is being tested. Hank picking up on Walt while on the shitter was an odd choice though.
hank will obviously play it cool and slowly piece together a case then get the news that his cancer is back and second guess himself. that's my guess anyway.
(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Aaron+Paul+64th+Annual+Primetime+Emmy+Awards+_Lxm3Kyu7Hjl.jpg)
Yeah, bitch! Emmy!
Magnets!
So i just now started this show... shieeeet
Plan for this evening: Watching the last three episodes of season 4 while enjoying a couple of beers. Gotta love weekends!
S04E11. Holy shit.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Oct 05, 2012, 06:00 PM
S04E11. Holy shit.
That last scene...one of the best moments in any show ever. Just chilling stuff.
I've seen all the way through the 8 episodes of season 5 and I bought the first 4 seasons for my grandma and we are watching it along with Dexter. Awesome shit.
Finally started watching season 5 yesterday. The series is so sad sometimes. The tensions between the White family really drag me down. Probably because I get reminded of that whole mess in my own family...
do yourself a favor and skip forward to season 7.
hehe, sure.
I can totally see amc pulling something like that. Splitting the remaining episodes across ANOTHER 2 years.
Knowing that we'll get the second half of season 5 only in 2013 is pretty nasty. I seriously can't wait
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 17, 2012, 10:59 PM
do yourself a favor and skip forward to season 7.
oh by the way the idiot that I am said this because I thought this thread said Dexter. I'm a mess. I need sleep.
Those idiots! Just finished episode 8. This has to be one of the most severe cliffhangers I have ever seen. :o
From S01E01 to S05E08 in less than a week. Best, most addictive series I've ever seen.
Quite impressive, sir. Nice work!
I am way fucking behind on this bandwagon. Started watching for the first time last night and I'm already on episode 7 of the first season. Only complaint is the continuity sometimes.
Coincidentally I just started over this series with a few friends last Sunday. Love it obviously, but I forgot how different season 1 feels from the rest of the show. Kind of cheesy in a way, especially with some of the music selections.
I guess I'll notice that in a couple of days
This thread is filled with discussion on Skyler White's character, so I found this article a very interesting read:
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/05/vince-gilligan-skyler-white/#more-252230 (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/05/vince-gilligan-skyler-white/#more-252230)
While I do sense misogyny when people say "Skyler White is a bitch", I think there reporter of this article makes another great point: Up to season five, we were all rooting for Walter. Up until that point, Walter's intentions for making meth was for the good of the family. He was our favorite anti-hero. I also think up until season five, Skyler's character was kind of flat and one dimensional. It wasn't until further in the series when I started understanding Skyler as a character and she finally started to take shape after she got involved with Walter's business.
Either way, both sides make good, valid points.
A lot of people seem to think that the show would be better without Skyler and Walt Jr, but I don't agree with that at all. There needs to be a balance and characters that makes you mad are good characters, because they get you more invested in the show. If Skyler and Walt Jr disappeared, then the show would have no purpose. The driving core of the show is how Walt handles being a druglord and at the same time being a family-man.
Skyler annoys the hell out of me for the most part, but if she disappeared, the show would loose an important character.
I don't like Skyler but unfortunately you are exactly right
Quote from: chick de la lynch on May 14, 2013, 07:41 PM
This thread is filled with discussion on Skyler White's character, so I found this article a very interesting read:
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/05/vince-gilligan-skyler-white/#more-252230 (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/05/vince-gilligan-skyler-white/#more-252230)
While I do sense misogyny when people say "Skyler White is a bitch", I think there reporter of this article makes another great point: Up to season five, we were all rooting for Walter. Up until that point, Walter's intentions for making meth was for the good of the family. He was our favorite anti-hero. I also think up until season five, Skyler's character was kind of flat and one dimensional. It wasn't until further in the series when I started understanding Skyler as a character and she finally started to take shape after she got involved with Walter's business.
Either way, both sides make good, valid points.
Man that really makes gilligan come off like kind of a dick about a lot of his fans. Thanks for posting this chick. Very interesting article and there was a lot of good discussion and points made in the comments. I feel like these two comments really hit the nail on the head about why people have legitimate reasons for disliking Skyler, at least in earlier seasons, and why people are not misogynists for feeling that way.
1. ''I think the writers of Breaking Bad have themselves to blame for the hate on Skylar. The problem is she was a broken record, and any time a character in the show becomes a broken record, people just want them to shut the hell up already. Now that she is more active, she is a more compelling character and I certainly am not as annoyed with her anymore.''
2. ''Actually I think it is more than that. She is an obstacle true. However, Gilligan's attempt to make her the "morality" of the show fail and results in me hating the character.
Why? Because her morality is shi+. She is full of pathetic moral compromises. She knowingly accepts the fruits of criminal enterprises while campaigning passive aggressively against Walter.
And given her knowledge of Walter's income and acceptance of it, her continuous stupid questions and "horror" are a slap in the face to most people. (Ex. Gus getting blown up and her asking Walter if it was him... Dammit Skylar!!! Of course don't ask me about my business. Walter really needs to learn to quit trying to convince his wife he is Billy bad ass too.)
In short, if Skylar is supposed to be the voice of morality, then she should have tried to expose or stop Walter instead of becoming his passive aggressive co-conspirator. Who isn't going to get sick of that. She is like Fredo, but with hotter tits.
And yeah, also because she fu*ked that douche-canoe Ted.''
Yeah, Skyler being seen as a moral compass really got lost on me. You could say that in the first two seasons because she was oblivious to Walter's secret life. Yeah, she confronted Walter on how dangerous and horrible the drug business was but she never went out of her way to stop it. She threatened to leave and take the children, but never acted on it. If she were the moral compass then she would have called the cops and left with the children in order to protect them. Instead, she is staying and laundering Walt's money.
She isn't a great character on a moral scale, but her characterization has gotten a lot better as the series progressed which makes for interesting television. I still think Betsy Brandt and Anna Gunn should have switched roles. Brandt would have made a much more compelling Skyler.
https://mobile.twitter.com/lifeisRUFF20/status/347882906993188864/photo/1
Walt will not die, nor get caught. Just end up alone with his cancer, secluded.
Tread lightly.
Hello Carol.
What a great ending to that episode. Also enjoyed Badger's Star Trek script.
I'm really glad they didn't drag out Walt/Hank's confrontation. They just got right down to business and I appreciate the writers a little more for that. Dexter could really take a lesson from this.
It caught me pretty off guard that the confrontation came so soon. Another reason why this show is amazing. They pull no punches.
The last five minutes of the episode terrified me, but in a good way. I can't wait to see what's in store for the last seven episodes!
It's gonna get ugly...that's for sure.
Great episode, as usual. Not sure I liked Walt's reaction in the last scene though. It'd be more convincing if he just tried laughing it off, and try to explain what a ridiculous idea it was. I dunno, it felt like he gave himself away quite easily.
So why the hell did we have to wait this long for new episodes anyway?
There's a little less than 6hrs left with these final 8. Just one big movie to go out on. Im glad they split it. Had walts rise and take over last 8. Now for the slope.
And season 1 only had 8 eps. Seems they're trying to complete the full 5 seasons with 16 eps for the last part . And works great this way.
This show is not good for my health...jesus fuckin' christ!
Motherfuckr, Jesse, what are you doing? ajsvdiasudhiaoiso
SHIT IS GOING DOWN!
This episode is a reminder that Walter still has his Heisenberg mentality even though he is out of the business. The manipulation of Walt Jr. was cold.
Maybe he's not out of the bizness. What with Todd leaving him a nice and polite voicemail and all.
I love this show so much. These 3 episodes have been fucking outstanding. The last 5, the emotions will be so intense I can only imagine.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 27, 2013, 03:08 AM
Maybe he's not out of the bizness. What with Todd leaving him a nice and polite voicemail and all.
Yeah, I'm very curious about that. At least the writers on this show are nothing like the writers on
Dexter. We should know more about Todd and Walter fairly soon.
I have a feeling that Walt's big ass fully automatic is gonna be used against Todd and his uncle. They're gonna fuck shit up.
Yeah we need to figure out who the machine gun's for, and also who's receiving the ricin. Jesse?
Fucking awesome last episodes.... This show is ending crazily !!! Amazing amazing piece of writing........
Can't wait for the next ones; shit's gonna go down, for sure !
Most unbearable cliffhanger in TV history?
Goddamn, my heart nearly flew out of my chest.
Again... what an incredible tv show.
But yeah I despise cliffhangers.
In the flash forward at the beginning of last season showed Hank questioning Walt, so is it safe to assume Hank will make it out alive of that shoot out?
Oh, and another terrific episode!
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Sep 09, 2013, 10:18 PM
In the flash forward at the beginning of last season showed Hank questioning Walt, so is it safe to assume Hank will make it out alive of that shoot out?
Wait they did? I thought it was just Walt at a Denny's with his birthday bacon and getting his monster gun.
I think he and Gomie might be gone next episode. Hank had the classic call-his-wife-to-let-her-he-loves-her-and-won't-be-home-for-awhile move. Death, right?
I could have sworn they showed Walt being questioned by Hank and Gomie. It's been a year since I saw that episode, so I could be wrong.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 09, 2013, 11:04 PM
Hank had the classic call-his-wife-to-let-her-he-loves-her-and-won't-be-home-for-awhile move. Death, right?
I thought exactly the same when I watched that episode!
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 09, 2013, 11:04 PM
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Sep 09, 2013, 10:18 PM
In the flash forward at the beginning of last season showed Hank questioning Walt, so is it safe to assume Hank will make it out alive of that shoot out?
Wait they did? I thought it was just Walt at a Denny's with his birthday bacon and getting his monster gun.
I think he and Gomie might be gone next episode. Hank had the classic call-his-wife-to-let-her-he-loves-her-and-won't-be-home-for-awhile move. Death, right?
Indeed
Don't drink and drive.
But if you do... call me.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 10, 2013, 03:40 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 09, 2013, 11:04 PM
Hank had the classic call-his-wife-to-let-her-he-loves-her-and-won't-be-home-for-awhile move. Death, right?
I thought exactly the same when I watched that episode!
Yeah, it all felt pretty obvious. I would be very very surprised if Hank didn't get killed in the next episode. The whole build-up, the panic in Walt when they arrived and the call Hank made to his wife. Not to mention, it would be pretty typical of Breaking Bad if Walt got away with it one more time.
I bet the machine gun is for Todd's uncle and his crew.
looks like the spin-off is official
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/09/11/better_call_saul_breaking_bad_spinoff_with_saul_goodman_is_probably_happening.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/09/11/better_call_saul_breaking_bad_spinoff_with_saul_goodman_is_probably_happening.html)
A part of me is excited for the spin off, but also extremely nervous. Following up to Breaking Bad is not going to be easy, but I think Saul Goodman is a character I wish had more screen time throughout the series. We shall see.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 09, 2013, 11:04 PM
Quote from: chick de la lynch on Sep 09, 2013, 10:18 PM
In the flash forward at the beginning of last season showed Hank questioning Walt, so is it safe to assume Hank will make it out alive of that shoot out?
Wait they did? I thought it was just Walt at a Denny's with his birthday bacon and getting his monster gun.
This was bugging me so I went back and checked. I was referring to the wrong episode--it was the last episode of the first half of season 5. It was the last minute of the episode to be precise when Hank's on the toilet. There is a scene where Hank tells Walter about the book he found in the bathroom that opened the door on his investigation. I don't know if this was just a scene to show Hank putting everything together or if it will be revisited later on. I'm just glad I wasn't going nuts.
Also, wouldn't it be kind of a cop-out to use the "I-love-you-too-Marie" line right before Hank dies? It just feels too expected coming from the writers of
Breaking Bad.
Thanks to Shawn (Defskull), I now vaguely remember that was not a flash forward, but a flash back.
As far as tonight's episode: OH. MY. GOD. Did anyone cry during this episode? Because I did a few times, but more than likely PMS probably had a lot to do with it.
I don't even...FUCK.
Most intense Breaking Bad episode ever. I was fucking shaking when it was over.
Whole season's had me on the edge of my seat, literally, but yeah I had a couple tears during this one. Loved everything about the episode. Holly, the phone scene, and that beginning sequence was great.
3 years worth of plot development in 1 hour.
Everyone gets an Emmy for this episode because DEAR GOD! Everything about this episode was perfect. And I never realized how cinematic this show really was until this season. The writers have seriously thought about the smallest of details, which makes me appreciate it even more.
Also, the phone call. It wasn't until I read the Warming Glow re-cap that I realized that Walt might have actually been saving Skyler from arrest. It would make sense since Walt was crying as he was yelling at her. For once throughout this series, was Walt actually thinking about someone else besides himself?
I'm sad this show is ending, but I'm even sadder that the series finale of Dexter is next week and absolutely nothing has happened throughout the whole season. The fact that Breaking Bad has shown us how a show should end, it really makes me sad that the writers of Dexter completely gave up. (I apologize for bringing this up in this thread, but I feel this is relevant.)
Told ya :)
And yes, my intial thought after the phone call was that he knew there would be police listening and this was his way of distancing himself and his crimes from her.
I stand by my theory that the glimpses of the finale we've seen are Walt going after Todd's uncle for revenge.
Yeah that's gotta be the end game now, I think.
Loved the focus of the knives in the opening scene with Skyler on the phone with Walt. I thought that was odd, and sure enough they show up again later.
Another thing I noticed was when Walt notices the gas leak in his car, and then the bullet hole on the side of the car. The way it was shot, the bullet hole was right in Walt's reflection, in his forehead.
Walt seeking revenge against Todd's uncle definitely seems like a plausible outcome. Maybe the bullet hole/Walt's reflection is telling us he won't survive the showdown? The writers have stated things are not going to end well for Walt, and they shouldn't.
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Sep 16, 2013, 07:05 PM
Loved the focus of the knives in the opening scene with Skyler on the phone with Walt. I thought that was odd, and sure enough they show up again later.
This is why I love this show. Everything is done purposefully and has been well thought out to the tiniest of details. How many shows do that?
Anyone see walts pants from pilot ep in desert. They flew off the rv. When he's rolling the money barrel from his car. It looked like a dirt rock or log. But can see the belt when paused
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EEDNA4M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1379351637&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EEDNA4M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1379351637&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165)
Wow this is the best show in the history of tv. These last episodes seem so short because I'm very literally on the edge of my seat. But really there's no other way this could end but in a train wreck of broken lives. And that flashback just put it all in perspective just how far he's gone.
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2013/09/grief.png)
To add to that photo. From Wikipedia:
QuoteThe fourteenth episode of the fifth and final season of the American television series Breaking Bad, titled "Ozymandias", features the main character, Walter White, collapsing sideways into the sand similarly to how the statue of Ozymandias is said to have done, his fortune and empire rapidly decaying.
so deep
so so so good! by far my favorite show ever. Ozymandias was every bit as good as advertized + one thousand.
I think Granite State will be sort of a set-up episode (of the two flash forwards we've seen) with walt in new hamsphire with his new identity. someone from his family gets killed, most likely skyler and/or marie, and he goes back to avenge their deaths....and hanks. also rescuing jesse in the process, only to kill jesse himself.
also killing todd and his uncles crew with the m60 and poisoning Lydias tea with the ricin. and the cancer finally gets him, with more than enough money to support walter jr and holly in the end.
According to Aaron Paul, the last two episodes will get much messier than Ozymandias.
Christ...
I have my oxygen tank ready.
And they're extended episodes, too! I'm not sure I'll be able to take it.
Quote from: only pieces remain on Sep 21, 2013, 09:34 AM
I think Granite State will be sort of a set-up episode (of the two flash forwards we've seen) with walt in new hamsphire with his new identity. someone from his family gets killed, most likely skyler and/or marie, and he goes back to avenge their deaths....and hanks. also rescuing jesse in the process, only to kill jesse himself.
also killing todd and his uncles crew with the m60 and poisoning Lydias tea with the ricin. and the cancer finally gets him, with more than enough money to support walter jr and holly in the end.
I actually can see this happening. I've been trying to think of who gets the ricin, and I don't think it can be a family member, especially after that phone scene last episode.
And the episode titles have been truthful so far. And considering New Hampshire is the Granite State, I think tonight's gotta be the flash forwards where's he now Mr. Lambert from NH.
didn't think they could stay as depressing as last week's, but damn that was another sad, depressing hour. Yet still so spectacular.
Yeah.
I'm afraid to watch the finale.
Btw, Breaking Bad FINALLY won Best Drama Series at the Emmys.
Fucking A!
That's awesome. Just too bad Jeff Daniels somehow miraculously won best actor.
Jeff Daniels is a great actor, but I refuse to believe he did the best job last year.
Okay, so Breaking Bad needs to stop making my cry. I'm not used to this!
Felina.
Fe = Blood
Li = Meth
Na = Tears
Gilligan = Genius.
El Paso (Full-Length Version) - Marty Robbins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY#)
The consensus seems to be that this is about Walt leaving New Mexico and coming back for either Jesse (doesn't make sense anymore), his family or his money (which doesn't make much sense either if he's dying and his family doesn't want it).
Might be about Todd dying for Lydia.
Quote from: theis on Sep 25, 2013, 11:29 AM
Felina.
Fe = Blood
Li = Meth
Na = Tears
Gilligan = Genius.
It's also an anagramm for "finale"
THERE'S SO MUCH FUCKING DEPTH TO THIS SHOW.
Anyone else catch that Todd killing Andrea was eerily similar to Jesse killing Gail after knocking on his door?
Just watched 13, 14, 15 (was a little bit late). My goodness, what a shock ! My jaw is still dropped from the awesomeness of this show...
Really amazing !!! As Chick de la Lynch said, it really does put things in perspective when you compare it to Dexter final season.....
This may take my #1 spot from The Wire !
EDIT :
Just rewatched the intro of 1st episode of this season (the flash forward).
It's called "Live free or die", and the waitress is explaining that Walt should have a free meal, that free is very important, and that even a rich man should not refuse a free meal. But he still pays for it at the end.
So yeah, I guess my money is on Walt's dying in the finale.
Cannot wait to see the episode............
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 26, 2013, 05:22 PM
This may take my #1 spot from The Wire !
EDIT :
Just rewatched the intro of 1st episode of this season (the flash forward).
It's called "Live free or die", and the waitress is explaining that Walt should have a free meal, that free is very important, and that even a rich man should not refuse a free meal. But he still pays for it at the end.
Live Free or Die is also New Hampshire's state motto, I think that was where the title came from. Just like episode 15 was titled Granite State which is the state nickname.
And on the subject of The Wire. That's been my #1 all time, but I think I'm ready to say Breaking Bad has taken over. This whole final season has just been incredible.
With tonight's finale, I guess the meth was Walt's Felina from the El Paso song. So glad they actually played it in the beginning.
Definitely satisfied with that ending though. Especially since there was left no stone unturned, and gave everyone an ending to their story. Refreshing to not have any lingering questions, haha.
It was goddamn perfect.
Man, I feel all empty inside. Will miss this show so much.
Greatest show ever.
In whole, a decent finale. Pretty much everything was tied up and no loose ends. However, there were some pretty glaring plot holes and some sloppy writing in my opinion
SPOILERS BELOW!
[spoiler]First and foremost, Walt is a pretty wanted man. With no sort of disguise, he managed to move around pretty freely, even visiting his wife who should logically be under surveillance 24/7. Secondly, how did he manage to get all those parts for his little machine gun contraption, not to mention the machine gun itself? Which leads to my next point; how did he know the layout of Todd's uncle's hideout, and how did he know they would all be gathered in that exact room? What was his plan had he not been able to park his car that perfectly? What if they had been smart and searched the trunk of the car? Things just fell into place a little too conveniently, which is something I kinda hate.
There's more, but it's mostly minor stuff I can suspend my disbelief enough to handle. I guess I could do the same with the things I mentioned above, but to be honest that's mainly because I've loved this show so much and it's had so much good writing that I just don't want to ruin it by making a big deal about these things and overanalyzing them. But I will say that it was pretty sloppy, and not the epic finale I was hoping for.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jacob on Sep 30, 2013, 09:51 PM
In whole, a decent finale. Pretty much everything was tied up and no loose ends. However, there were some pretty glaring plot holes and some sloppy writing in my opinion
SPOILERS BELOW!
[spoiler]First and foremost, Walt is a pretty wanted man. With no sort of disguise, he managed to move around pretty freely, even visiting his wife who should logically be under surveillance 24/7. Secondly, how did he manage to get all those parts for his little machine gun contraption, not to mention the machine gun itself? Which leads to my next point; how did he know the layout of Todd's uncle's hideout, and how did he know they would all be gathered in that exact room? What was his plan had he not been able to park his car that perfectly? What if they had been smart and searched the trunk of the car? Things just fell into place a little too conveniently, which is something I kinda hate.
There's more, but it's mostly minor stuff I can suspend my disbelief enough to handle. I guess I could do the same with the things I mentioned above, but to be honest that's mainly because I've loved this show so much and it's had so much good writing that I just don't want to ruin it by making a big deal about these things and overanalyzing them. But I will say that it was pretty sloppy, and not the epic finale I was hoping for.[/spoiler]
Did you also notice Walt's left shoe was double knotted but a split second later it was tied regularly?
I think if we're going to get on the writers of Dexter for not having Hannah disguise herself in public, we can't be hypocritical and ignore Walt's lack of disguise either just because one show is obviously better than the other so thank you Jacob for mentioning that.
That said, this was a perfect finish to an amazing show. It was short, sweet and to the point yet managed to be incredibly cinematic. Vince Gilligan did a great job directing. Everything was paced beautifully, not to mention beautifully shot. It was haunting, poignant, dramatic and completely bonkers. I loved it.
Is Breaking Bad better than The Wire? Once again, I'm splitting hairs because at this point you have to. I still consider The Wire the better show by a hair for two reasons which have not changed: Bigger cast and better editing. There were a few issues with audio and editing that I noticed throughout the season that kind of irked me (Sorry, I studied production in TV/Film in college so I'm unfortunately more aware of this shit). One moment of this that stands out is when Hank tells Skyler about Walt's business in the diner. That scene had horrible sound editing. You could barely hear what they were saying and I'm not the only one who took notice of this.
Also, Breaking Bad is dealing with a smaller cast than The Wire. While everything was answered with Breaking Bad, they were dealing with a smaller cast of characters and only had to tie a few loose ends. The Wire finale, they were dealing with a million different story lines and a very limited time to answer everything.
Having said that, the finale was everything I wanted and more. I couldn't be more satisfied but now I'm sad that it's over. :( Easily one of the greatest shows of all time and definitely in the league of The Wire.
[spoiler]P.S. Really glad Walt/Todd/Lydia/Jack and his gang got their comeuppance. Also, lots of tears on my end. [/spoiler]
We're really talking about plausibilty now? It's not like the guy's walking down the middle of the street waving the agents in the car in front of the house. He's looking through windows next door. It's not like the coffee shop is a known Heisenberg location, so no one's really looking at a guy with a full head of hair and beard. Plus we hear from Marie that there have been multiple bomb threats or something so the agents/police are stretched thin.
Also it's Breaking Bad. I always thought a lot of the show was unbelievable at times. They show a little science or a little set up (like him building the gun contraption) and then Walt will make quick decisions or improvise (and be super lucky) and things work out for him.
And wasn't the gun from the flash forward last year? Ellsworth from Deadwood is his gun guy and Walt meets him in the Denny's bathroom. Then I think it cuts to him in the parking lot looking in the trunk.
a full head of hair, full beard with dark framed glasses, dirty dingy green jacket, not to mention being pale, skinny and sickly looking isn't enough of a disguise? ::)
Holy shit!
Latest episode was fucking awe... oh wait. It's over.
:(
Breaking Bad Season 5 - Alternate Ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZivVxB3vU#ws)
Hahaha!
Lol, that was great
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d0_LOauLR2E (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d0_LOauLR2E)
Season 6.
http://nbc.com.co/vince-gilligan-announces-breaking-bad-season-6-begins-shooting-december-2015-walt-did-not-die/ (http://nbc.com.co/vince-gilligan-announces-breaking-bad-season-6-begins-shooting-december-2015-walt-did-not-die/)
Quote from: Martin on Oct 29, 2015, 09:27 AM
Season 6.
http://nbc.com.co/vince-gilligan-announces-breaking-bad-season-6-begins-shooting-december-2015-walt-did-not-die/ (http://nbc.com.co/vince-gilligan-announces-breaking-bad-season-6-begins-shooting-december-2015-walt-did-not-die/)
I started watching this show a few months ago and finally yesterday watched the ending in a 5 episodes marathon and at the end my head was blown. What an amazing show from start to finish. It indeed had some slow things going on but I loved the way there were some flash backs and flash forwards that kept us intrigued despite if an episode was loose.
I loved how, finally, all the loose stories were tied up at the end but even with this, I felt that there were still some stories that could be good to be told, like, what happened with [spoiler]Jesse and with Brock[/spoiler] to name a few.
Excellent show, again, I feel as someone said, empty and was nearly crying but at the same time, excited to see how things evolved (that's why I started to watch Better Call Saul to at least feel the vibe of the show haha) and since I watched the last 5 episodes all toguether, at the end I was still tying and digesting things. Like if all of it happened suddenly. I think I'll rewatch the entire show or at least those last episodes to enjoy more the details.
And to summarize, when I went to bed last night, my head was all around the show and I somehow came with the possibility that Walt was not dead yet [spoiler]At least not by the bullet wound. The cops passed along to him and no one checked if he was dead or not! Also was with the question.. who exactly called the cops to go to the Jack's gang HQ's?[/spoiler] and that, it was as well the end of the season, there were some characters that would need to develop and finish their stories.
So, yeah, that article saying Season 6 is being shot next December totally makes sense to what I thought and I dreamed last night.
Btw, the same article was published again a few weeks ago:
http://nbc.com.co/vince-gilligan-announces-breaking-bad-season-6/ (http://nbc.com.co/vince-gilligan-announces-breaking-bad-season-6/)
I really need to rewatch this. I still think about it, or it comes up in conversation every month or so. As I was reading your post, I was gonna say you should watch Better Call Saul, but you're already on it, haha.
As far as season 6 goes, I'm assuming any news right now is a hoax. I think Gilligan's got so many other projects happening in addition to Saul. Also, I thought around the time of the finale, Gilligan stated that we should interpret that last scene as Walt dying. Even the lyrics to Baby Blue go with him dying (what a perfect song for the whole series actually)
Yes, now that my mind has assimilated this, the season 6 thing seems to be like it should have happened before, and this really seems to be a hoax, that apparently surfaced last year and then again this year, so who knows, for sure, Gilligan but maybe it's not on his short term plans. Because, I think, according to what the "fake new" says, that there's still story to tell.
I'm hoping to see if there will be in the next seasons of BCS a connection to the story, like, what did Saul do to know "the friend who knows a friend" and what happened with his name change (since it didn't use the identity change with the guy) he's still a lawyer and it seems it is a thing that as much, is doable once in a lifetime, hence the chance Jesse missed, he won't be able to do it again. At least with that guy.
So, let's see if there are glimpses in the meanwhile and watch how the show with Saul evolves.
And again, what an amazing show.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLW9MT5PrO8QHIK_A9U2U_kXbLh7Kae0Yq&v=cRRKQ_uiP9U (https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLW9MT5PrO8QHIK_A9U2U_kXbLh7Kae0Yq&v=cRRKQ_uiP9U)
A tribute to this show I made a while back to Change (In The House Of Flies ) . Check it out if y'all are interested.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mii8lCa9w8k#)
Just remove the "s" in https
Holy shit it worked, I was half expecting you to be trolling .