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Title: We're fucked.
Post by: bebo on Jul 06, 2010, 06:33 AM
New ACTA Leak Confirms Major Threat to Internet Freedom, Privacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhCs0vPmjVA&feature=related#ws)


http://bytestyle.tv/content/acta-will-corporate-run-us-government-destroy-internet (http://bytestyle.tv/content/acta-will-corporate-run-us-government-destroy-internet)


If this happens, I'm going to go live in the mountains.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: lostpilot on Jul 06, 2010, 08:53 AM
this is ridiculous. good thing I live in EU, but as far as I heard, same thing COULD happen in here too.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: theis on Jul 06, 2010, 10:06 AM
That's fucked up.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 06, 2010, 12:00 PM
Bravo, Barack.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: bright lights, big city on Jul 06, 2010, 01:59 PM
ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Jul 06, 2010, 05:14 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Jul 06, 2010, 01:59 PM
ain't gonna happen.

I'd like to hope so.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: lostpilot on Jul 06, 2010, 05:28 PM
well.. I guess it depends on the government and it's ability to change laws.
Back in Lithuania they've tried to close a major torrent site for more than a year now, and everything they do fails - just cause the people on the "torrent" side have good young lawyers that find major loopholes in the laws.

"The People" will always win back. Well, usually.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Jul 07, 2010, 05:31 AM
This will pass without a doubt.  This is the kind of bullshit that i'm constantly ranting about.  At least now the government will rein in the mass disorder that is the internet, thank God.

PS I want to make Shelly Roche my woman and make beautiful, freedom-loving babies with her... after several years of birth control-secured jungle fucking.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: godin on Jul 31, 2010, 07:06 AM
isnt the government worried about protest? strength in numbers, etc.  Alot of people will be very angry
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Oldnewtype on Sep 06, 2010, 07:30 PM
yeah people are always angry, that doesn't mean we're gonna do shit about it though. We are too lazy to try and stop this kind of shit, thats whats wrong with america. we're fuckin lazy.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: deftoner664 on Sep 06, 2010, 07:32 PM
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Sep 06, 2010, 07:30 PM
yeah people are always angry, that doesn't mean we're gonna do shit about it though. We are too lazy to try and stop this kind of shit, thats whats wrong with america. we're fuckin lazy.

Stole the words out of my mouth.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: derekautomatica on Sep 06, 2010, 10:48 PM
George Orwell warned us in 1984...now here it is.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Sep 07, 2010, 01:10 PM
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Sep 06, 2010, 07:30 PM
yeah people are always angry, that doesn't mean we're gonna do shit about it though. We are too lazy to try and stop this kind of shit, thats whats wrong with america. we're fuckin lazy.

So true. As guilty as I am of that, it still fucking pisses me off how lazy we all are.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: bIondie on Sep 07, 2010, 04:19 PM
Quote from: godin on Jul 31, 2010, 07:06 AM
isnt the government worried about protest? strength in numbers, etc.  Alot of people will be very angry

simple fix for the government. they'll use fear tactics like usual and call protestors anti-american and/or terrorists. if that doesn't work, they'll just release anthrax on us again.

go u.s.a!
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Oldnewtype on Sep 07, 2010, 08:16 PM
Quote from: derekautomatica on Sep 06, 2010, 10:48 PM
George Orwell warned us in 1984...now here it is.

word for word almost.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Sep 08, 2010, 12:40 AM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Sep 07, 2010, 01:10 PM
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Sep 06, 2010, 07:30 PM
yeah people are always angry, that doesn't mean we're gonna do shit about it though. We are too lazy to try and stop this kind of shit, thats whats wrong with america. we're fuckin lazy.

So true. As guilty as I am of that, it still fucking pisses me off how lazy we all are.

just keep up with the learning, brah.  and then spread the word to anybody that will listen.  I've gotten so many fucking people on the Ron Paul bandwagon just through pure education.  Hopefully, eventually you or I will inspire someone who is more politically inclined.  Or maybe I'll run for office, depends on what I get charged with this time haha.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: lostpilot on Sep 08, 2010, 12:22 PM
some people told me that in Turkey the government has banned MANY websites that we use daily, like blogspot, youtube, blogger, torrents etc - and they are planning to ban google too. That's some regulation :/
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: blixa on Sep 09, 2010, 02:00 PM
they were thinking of passing a law about censoring the internet here but everyone kicked up a shit about it and it has gone away, for now at least.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Oldnewtype on Sep 09, 2010, 06:47 PM
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Sep 08, 2010, 12:40 AM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Sep 07, 2010, 01:10 PM
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Sep 06, 2010, 07:30 PM
yeah people are always angry, that doesn't mean we're gonna do shit about it though. We are too lazy to try and stop this kind of shit, thats whats wrong with america. we're fuckin lazy.

So true. As guilty as I am of that, it still fucking pisses me off how lazy we all are.

just keep up with the learning, brah.  and then spread the word to anybody that will listen.  I've gotten so many fucking people on the Ron Paul bandwagon just through pure education.  Hopefully, eventually you or I will inspire someone who is more politically inclined.  Or maybe I'll run for office, depends on what I get charged with this time haha.

Keep informed AND keep your head on level shoulders. See I tend to naturally exaggerate things a lot so most people tend to think I'm just crazy when I talk about stuff in food and water or plans to end net neutrality or fema camps and martial law. So yeah don't sound crazy like me or no one will believe you.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Variable on Sep 10, 2010, 06:42 AM
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Jul 07, 2010, 05:31 AM
This will pass without a doubt.  This is the kind of bullshit that i'm constantly ranting about.  At least now the government will rein in the mass disorder that is the internet, thank God.

PS I want to make Shelly Roche my woman and make beautiful, freedom-loving babies with her... after several years of birth control-secured jungle fucking.
Actually I already called dibbs on Shelly.  I think she might actually be the only person I follow on twitter.  But yeah, we are scheduled to have babies in 2013.

Quote from: godin on Jul 31, 2010, 07:06 AM
isnt the government worried about protest? strength in numbers, etc.  Alot of people will be very angry
Not even a little bit.  The American government worries about backlash from the American people about as much as I worry about Chlamydia.  Yeah it might sting for a couple hours.  But you just have to go to the doctor and get a simple shot and its alllll gone.

I don't think I would say it's due to laziness as much as apathy.  The American people just don't give a shit.  It is the widespread belief in America that Government is good.  We don't have to pay any attention to our government, and they will magically love us and take care of us even though we provide zero accountability.  I mean, after all, we have much more important things to focus on like Jersey Shore, our iPhones, and youporn.com.  So fuck paying attention to politics.  After all, we fixed our governing problems.  We took the white guy out and have a black guy now.  Obviously race is what matters.  Yay for us!

Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Sep 08, 2010, 12:40 AM
Quote from: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Sep 07, 2010, 01:10 PM
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Sep 06, 2010, 07:30 PM
yeah people are always angry, that doesn't mean we're gonna do shit about it though. We are too lazy to try and stop this kind of shit, thats whats wrong with america. we're fuckin lazy.

So true. As guilty as I am of that, it still fucking pisses me off how lazy we all are.

just keep up with the learning, brah.  and then spread the word to anybody that will listen.  I've gotten so many fucking people on the Ron Paul bandwagon just through pure education.  Hopefully, eventually you or I will inspire someone who is more politically inclined.  Or maybe I'll run for office, depends on what I get charged with this time haha.
Oh and no worries.  I'm still running for president in 2032.  So I got this shit.  
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Sep 11, 2010, 11:46 PM
whatever biznatch, you know you need me there too to provide extra intellect and fellatio.

Another part is the fact that people aren't only economically apathetic/illiterate, but have become economically retarded by all of the Keynesian/Marxian bullshit propaganda so the little they do know and construe as fact is just backwards garbage.  Economic education is definitely where I'd want to start.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Variable on Sep 14, 2010, 09:27 AM
Well, fellatio anyways.

And yes, economic education would be a huge start.  But making people give a shit about what their learning would be hard.  Americans just don't care.  It's making people care that is the real challenge. 
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: alvarezbassist17 on Sep 15, 2010, 12:45 AM
Yeah, that's true, but I guess I meant getting economic education to the same forefront as the more pop-culture "intellectual" topics like environmentalism, social justice, etc. that it seems like people (at least those I'm around) are more passionate about.  And I feel like it does have at least some effect when I give people the Peter Schiff spiel and just emphasize how predictable all of these statist trends are.  Definitely in accordance for the most part that people don't really give two shits about the principles of freedom, but I'm just trying to prepare for the collapse of the fiat system when people might actually be ready to listen to some alternatives (big "might" though).

And your yin for totally needs a yang, brah (no homo).
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Variable on Sep 15, 2010, 08:06 AM
I don't know what all that last part meant, but I think I like it ;)  We would make one hell of an exectutive cabinet, no matter who held what position ( no homo )  So either way, lets do it ( no homo )

I think its going to take a major colapse in American society for people to give a shit.  But I mean major.  Not this little recession where some people had to buy a Ford instead of a Lexus for 5 years.  I mean like massive loss of wealth an property.  Massive hunger and debt.  The majority of Americans lives greatly negativly influenced because of the actions made by the government they ignored and took forgranted and then took advantage of their apathy and ignorance.  
Then maybe the people will care more about their future than they do Brittney Spears.  THEN maybe the people will read something educational, get involved, care about candidates ability to govern rather than their race or how they feel about abortion.  Maybe then people will listen to the "crazy" people who said all of this was going to happen because we took a bunch of paper and said it was worth an empire ( I mean, obviously its crazy to not accept that stacks of paper aren't worth the entire american empire, right? )

Anyways, I'm done ranthing.  But my point is that no body gives a shit because they sit in their little security bubbles and all this talk goes on around them but nothing affects then, therefore they don't care.  They can give as little of a shit as they want, but they still eat and get to smoke their weed every day.  They still have their MP3 player and assume that their kids will grow up in the same world.  Even thaough thats probably not true.  
So someday, when we are all older and our grandkids are starving and the country is in shambles.  People will wish they never read a tabloid, and picked up a fictional book instead and tried to learn something rather than just exhist.  But until then, people like you and I will just continue to be frustrated.  
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Oldnewtype on Sep 15, 2010, 06:22 PM
I'd give it about 9 more years till america is back to city-states and local tribes. Until then I'll be waiting for the rest of you to realize we are all one and the same and can only ascend together.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: kittyy on Sep 15, 2010, 07:28 PM
I'm so proud to be a part of this country... ha.
Title: Re: We're fucked.
Post by: Necrocetaceanbeastiality on Sep 16, 2010, 06:34 AM
Idiot.