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Title: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 25, 2010, 08:18 PM
As I'm browsing around the internet and the boards, I'm repeatedly surprised at how shallow the collective musical tastes are. I'm a metal fan, but if a band is pushing the limits of what I know and love, I'll give it the respect it deserves. Instead of posting and praising all of this hippy, drug-induced, experimental, indie bullshit, let's discuss bands that are raw and real. This thread doesn't have to focus on metal, by any means, but it's here to get away from people applauding bands because of their electronica influences, or due to their ambient soundscapes. Give me music that is hard to listen to, or bands that destroy your notions of what they should've sounded like in the first place. Step out of your pretentious comfort zones and offer suggestions that everyone can appreciate.  I want emotion and expression and not because some reviewer claimed it as the next best thing. Post some suggestions and tell us why you are recommending the groups that you are. This is The Unknown Band thread for people who aren't afraid to step outside the box.  Fuck the typical.

My first suggestion: Atooishinjuu

I know we've mentioned them before, but they never get the attention or respect that they deserve. The name refers to suicide after your lover has died, and the lead singer's girlfriend died prior to the band forming. This is an intense and difficult album to listen to, since he screeches and moans with sincerity. There's a lot of pain throughout, but it's worth a listen.

Atooishinjuu - Maladine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7WDwvyl0g&feature=related#)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: ben on Jul 25, 2010, 08:23 PM
You're calling other people pretentious lol

Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 25, 2010, 08:42 PM
Quote from: ben on Jul 25, 2010, 08:23 PM
You're calling other people pretentious lol



I am, and I said that all genres are welcome.  Picks are very repetitive on this board. It's all subjective, but it's my opinion. What's funny is that you posted to point out I was being selective, but didn't post anything or offer suggestions.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: ben on Jul 25, 2010, 08:43 PM
i'll offer some suggestions soon
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 25, 2010, 08:45 PM
Quote from: ben on Jul 25, 2010, 08:43 PM
i'll offer some suggestions soon

Thanks, mate. I've seen some of your posts, and I know you have varied taste. All I want is some honest, raw music, any genre (and I mean any) that will break the mold.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: Alvar on Jul 25, 2010, 09:01 PM
so the purpose of this thread is to post some stuff that you are into, thats totally off the wall and probably noone will like?
call me in!

let me start with a song from the almighty band Pyramids, i've brought them up several times in the past.
this band is blending several genres of music together (mainly shoegaze, ambient, black-metal and lots of noises), which results in a mostly chaotic, industrialized noise mashup, but also whith contrasting passages of epic melancholy.
Pyramids - Hellmonk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RvWv6uK36M#ws)


the second band i'd like to bring up is called Menace Ruine. this band is playing some kind of "droning" version of medieval folk (sometimes accompanied by some harsh electronic blast-beat drumming). but mostly drone. funny thing is that the only thing they use to create this kind of music are synthesizers, so no guitars here. just drone.
Menace Ruine - Utterly Destitute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4qz5uyidw0#)


last but not least, the complete mindfuck: Kinit Her also play some kind of medieval influenced folk, slightly mixed with undertones of sludge metal, subtle electronics and some other weird stuff.
this band has some strange kind of smurf-sounding nasal singing going on, alternating with clerical chanting and choir like singing. they are also using a great amount of classical instruments.
please note: at first i totally hated the sound of this band. i thought its ridiculous and couldnt get over the singing. but these guys are brilliant song writers. after all, i got addicted to this strange sound.
Kinit Her - Colossal Portal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMDZUFW3150#ws)

have fun with these!
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 26, 2010, 02:01 AM
I actually think everyone will miss the point.  There's a difference between liking and appreciating.  I might appreciate certain bands that people post, but I don't have to like them. Honestly, everyone is so far stuck up their own asses that  I'm not sure this will work. I don't want music only I like, I want real music that someone likes and is willing to share. It's as though one person will find a band, recommend it, and then continuously post the same sounding music over and over again in a thread.  If this turns into a bash Oldgent thread then I know where you stand. 

Maybe I'm not correctly wording what I mean. There's a huge difference between music that fires up emotion in you, and music that you create emotion for; for example, I can't stand techno of any sort because I feel that the listener creates the emotion in order to appreciate the music. I was asking if anyone had music that was created with absolute raw feeling from the artist. I'm not trying to be pretentious, maybe a bit of a dickhead, but I'm seeing the same shit every single day. What bands do you listen to that people may not associate with your personality?  What are some bands that you've discovered that blow your mind and scream of honesty and ingenuity? 

Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: lostpilot on Jul 26, 2010, 09:48 AM
I believe you could like The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls with Sand.
For me personally that seems like an album "beyond" music.

And Kayo Dot - Coyote gave me same notions, but I believe all my puny offerings may seem too "mainstream" and "in the box".
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: raynor on Jul 26, 2010, 01:55 PM
MARVIN GAYE & TAMMI TERRELL "Ain't no Mountain High Enough" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz-UvQYAmbg#)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 26, 2010, 03:03 PM
Quote from: lostpilot on Jul 26, 2010, 09:48 AM
I believe you could like The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls with Sand.
For me personally that seems like an album "beyond" music.

And Kayo Dot - Coyote gave me same notions, but I believe all my puny offerings may seem too "mainstream" and "in the box".

Well, I can see how awesome this  thread's going to be.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: wheresmysnare on Jul 26, 2010, 04:07 PM
There is a little known outfit from the Isle of Scilly, they are a close knit 5 peice of romany gypsie heritage and their nomadic roots influence heavily upon their music. They are called Cowblanket but don't let that but you off, they make songs using 'found' samples, which are often heavily processed using often highly unconventional techniques dreamed up by the band. In their most widely acclaimed song 'Eye of a Needle' they took a sound clip of Sir Cliff Richard deficating on a swan, they then passed the sound waves at an extreme velocity through the balls of a chimp. The results have been likened by local comentators to sounding like 'something like Will I Am' and have coined the name of a new subgenre known as menstruative rock.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 26, 2010, 04:33 PM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Jul 26, 2010, 04:07 PM
There is a little known outfit from the Isle of Scilly, they are a close knit 5 peice of romany gypsie heritage and their nomadic roots influence heavily upon their music. They are called Cowblanket but don't let that but you off, they make songs using 'found' samples, which are often heavily processed using often highly unconventional techniques dreamed up by the band. In their most widely acclaimed song 'Eye of a Needle' they took a sound clip of Sir Cliff Richard deficating on a swan, they then passed the sound waves at an extreme velocity through the balls of a chimp. The results have been likened by local comentators to sounding like 'something like Will I Am' and have coined the name of a new subgenre known as menstruative rock.

Lol ;)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: nineteen on Jul 26, 2010, 07:13 PM
My brain now implodes with all this access to new music. I find it difficult.

Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: ben on Jul 27, 2010, 03:26 AM
TWILIGHT › [2010] › Monument to Time End › Red Fields (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psudZYrWPlM#)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: E-Money on Jul 27, 2010, 05:54 AM
I have to disagree with you about electronic music not having any emotion...I personally think its all about the listener.  I find electro music has a lot of feeling and emotion.  Of course most rock and metal displays a lot of passion and emotion, but I also feel that hip hop and electronic has just as much emotion as metal.  I never liked hip hop until I found out how much emotion some artists really put into their music.  I think some hip hop has maybe even more emotion than most metal bands... But it all depends on the listener. 

there's a lot of emotion here...
Jay Electronica - Exhibit C (Produced by Just Blaze) [CDQ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5AFpQ96jjE&feature=related#)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 27, 2010, 12:40 PM
Quote from: ben on Jul 27, 2010, 03:26 AM
TWILIGHT › [2010] › Monument to Time End › Red Fields (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psudZYrWPlM#)

Twilight is awesome, been listening for some time now.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 27, 2010, 12:44 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Jul 27, 2010, 05:54 AM
I have to disagree with you about electronic music not having any emotion...I personally think its all about the listener.  I find electro music has a lot of feeling and emotion.  Of course most rock and metal displays a lot of passion and emotion, but I also feel that hip hop and electronic has just as much emotion as metal.  I never liked hip hop until I found out how much emotion some artists really put into their music.  I think some hip hop has maybe even more emotion than most metal bands... But it all depends on the listener. 

there's a lot of emotion here...
Jay Electronica - Exhibit C (Produced by Just Blaze) [CDQ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5AFpQ96jjE&feature=related#)

I'm at school, but I'll listen when I get home later. I was making the point that I'm not getting anything out of the recommendations I see. Also, I was meaning all over the internet, but people were taking it personally on the boards. You're right, it is subjective, and there a lot of artists that people don't know about that actually destroy expectations. That's what I wanted people to post here. If I say hip hop is garbage (it's not, and I actually like hip hop), I was hoping that someone would prove me wrong. Thanks for posting and responding. I wasn't posting because I thought I was better, but because I wanted people to show me why certain sounds are so appealing.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: tarkil on Jul 29, 2010, 01:53 PM
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Jul 25, 2010, 08:18 PM
My first suggestion: Atooishinjuu

I know we've mentioned them before, but they never get the attention or respect that they deserve. The name refers to suicide after your lover has died, and the lead singer's girlfriend died prior to the band forming. This is an intense and difficult album to listen to, since he screeches and moans with sincerity. There's a lot of pain throughout, but it's worth a listen.

Atooishinjuu - Maladine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7WDwvyl0g&feature=related#)

Loving this, and downloading their album as we speak... I'll give it a full listen later.
But thanks for this !!   :)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 19, 2010, 03:05 AM
Swartalf - Walpurgis

Swartalf - Walpurgis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYM_CCVLnu0#)

Ulver - The Argument, Plate 2

Ulver - The Argument, Plate 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZkNK0_3ZM#)

Kazuki Tomokawa - Circus

Kazuki Tomokawa - Circus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lRO7Re6hNo#)

Green Carnation - The Burden is Mine...Alone

Green Carnation - The Burden is Mine...Alone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka0q8jeaw4g#)

Oxbow - Time, Gentlemen, Time

Oxbow - Time, Gentlemen, Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36X67CTUQrU#)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: bright lights, big city on Aug 19, 2010, 04:13 AM
I FUCKING LOVE ULVER! And Oxbow sounds pretty interesting! Thanks!
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 20, 2010, 01:04 AM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 19, 2010, 04:13 AM
I FUCKING LOVE ULVER! And Oxbow sounds pretty interesting! Thanks!

No problem!  I'm still trying to think of things beyond the obvious. Post shit if you want to share!
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 10:36 AM
Oldgent,

I just wrote a really long post about emotion in music, music that fires up emotion, appreciation vs. liking, etc, but deleted it as didnt make sense for me to start telling my own opinions and asking questions of yours. Personal opinions can be contradictory (meaning that one has all the right to contradict oneself, and that theres nothing contradictory about that), and I love that, therefore I just wanna see if I got the point of the thread correct:

"Share music that you like. Dont post weird music just because you want to post music that no one will like. Still, post something that is different from the current stream of music. Post music that you love because it is something ingenious and awesome, to you".

If I got it all wrong, do tell me. I wanna play by the rules of your thread, hopefully getting something cool out of it.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 12:22 PM
Decided to pick this band and video as I realized how huge Murder By Death was for me from 2003 to 2005. Their last 3 albums seem rather meaningless and plain to me  but their first 2 albums from 2002 and 2003 are something that I can always go back to, Amazing stuff.

So here's Murder By Death live from 2003. If you dont have time to watch the whole thing, at least watch from 6.15 until the end, gives me the chills everytime.

Murder by Death - Those Who Left (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGiBvnh1a8I&feature=related#)

Edit. seriously, what happened to this band after the two first album.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: bright lights, big city on Aug 20, 2010, 05:22 PM
i dig em too. agreed that their first couple were amazing, but Red of Tooth and Claw was good too. I really enjoyed it, especially the closing track.
http://www.mediafire.com/?mm2z2mdg52r (http://www.mediafire.com/?mm2z2mdg52r)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 08:46 PM
To me it feels like they wanted to make some money starting from In Bocca Al Lupo in 2006. They still write catchy tunes thats not the thing, but if I use some of Oldgent's definitions, the first two albums felt so raw and emotional, while the last 3 were more like "lets make great sounding music that people will like to listen to".

Almost like their earlier stuff came together in a really organic way, like they put their hearts into them and made the music for themselves and no one else. I dont know, just the feeling Im getting. Im glad you enjoy them though, havent met many that do. Maybe I will learn to enjoy their later stuff at a later point as well.

Edit. I gotta be careful what I say about any bands intentions with their records though. As a musician myself I couldnt imagine myself making anything else than the type of music that I enjoy, that I love. But maybe at some point various factors just influence the direction a band takes so much that theres no "return to the past" if one can say it like that. Thats why at times its actually great to hear that a favorite band of mine has disbanded. Changes trigger emotion, creativity, which then lead to great music. Stability at times on the otehr hand results to staying in the safe zone or overthinking what one does. I dont know, just some thoughts.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 20, 2010, 08:55 PM
Quote from: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 10:36 AM
Oldgent,

I just wrote a really long post about emotion in music, music that fires up emotion, appreciation vs. liking, etc, but deleted it as didnt make sense for me to start telling my own opinions and asking questions of yours. Personal opinions can be contradictory (meaning that one has all the right to contradict oneself, and that theres nothing contradictory about that), and I love that, therefore I just wanna see if I got the point of the thread correct:

"Share music that you like. Dont post weird music just because you want to post music that no one will like. Still, post something that is different from the current stream of music. Post music that you love because it is something ingenious and awesome, to you".

If I got it all wrong, do tell me. I wanna play by the rules of your thread, hopefully getting something cool out of it.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. I wanted to hear all types of music, but I wanted songs/artists to standout to the person that posted. People thought I was just being a selfish dickhead, but I was trying to make a point (and by getting angry, people were proving me right).  Post anything you want. I'm actually curious about why some music is considered awesome, to listen to anything new, and to just share a little. Obviously, we don't have many fans of heavier music on the board so it'll seem like I'm being biased, but it's just about checking phenomenal, new shit out across ALL genres.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 20, 2010, 08:59 PM
Quote from: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 12:22 PM
Decided to pick this band and video as I realized how huge Murder By Death was for me from 2003 to 2005. Their last 3 albums seem rather meaningless and plain to me  but their first 2 albums from 2002 and 2003 are something that I can always go back to, Amazing stuff.

So here's Murder By Death live from 2003. If you dont have time to watch the whole thing, at least watch from 6.15 until the end, gives me the chills everytime.

Murder by Death - Those Who Left (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGiBvnh1a8I&feature=related#)

Edit. seriously, what happened to this band after the two first album.

Those guys are great!  Was that from Hellfest?
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 09:01 PM
Haha yeah it was, how did ya guess?
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 20, 2010, 09:02 PM
Lol, didn't, I own the DVD!
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 09:11 PM
And you know what Oldgent, I think I see what youre saying. On a music board such as this, the music tastes of people will become rather homogeneous. For various reasons obviously, which Im not gonna get into now. But anyways, the ones who do listen to/recommend/praise different music will either get some sort of discrimination or they will be shunned as their tastes are incomprehensible to others. I think its great to have different people on the board though, I dont need to like your music to appreciate your music taste.

And what makes music awesome, I have no idea. What do you think, besides emotion?

And man, you have the DVD from 2003? Do they have any other tracks from Murder By Death in there? I cant find anything from the net at least.

Edit. And by asking what makes music awesome, Im asking what do you think are the reasons or the variables why people consider certain music awesome.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 20, 2010, 10:10 PM
Quote from: An bád dubh on Aug 20, 2010, 09:11 PM
And you know what Oldgent, I think I see what youre saying. On a music board such as this, the music tastes of people will become rather homogeneous. For various reasons obviously, which Im not gonna get into now. But anyways, the ones who do listen to/recommend/praise different music will either get some sort of discrimination or they will be shunned as their tastes are incomprehensible to others. I think its great to have different people on the board though, I dont need to like your music to appreciate your music taste.

And what makes music awesome, I have no idea. What do you think, besides emotion?

And man, you have the DVD from 2003? Do they have any other tracks from Murder By Death in there? I cant find anything from the net at least.

Edit. And by asking what makes music awesome, Im asking what do you think are the reasons or the variables why people consider certain music awesome.

I think that people find music awesome for often undefinable reasons.  What I mean is, they aren't able to understand exactly why a certain band appeals to them. I feel that sometimes music, or art of any form for that matter, speak to individuals on a level that only that person can discover. I also think music allows people to share their emotions and experiences through the expression of others. It's all about how someone can relate to what's being said or expressed. I also believe that universal themes and emotions speak to most people, and that was the reason I asked for "raw" or "emotional" music. Even if I don't "get" the genre or style, I can still feel the music to a point.  I have had fun in the past reflecting upon why I am the way that I am, but at the same time it's hard to really ask yourself why you like the things that you do.  What do you think?

I think that song on the DVD was the only one they showed. I'll double check the tracklist for you. The performances were cool, but they limited the number for each band and omitted a ton that were at the festival. 

Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 22, 2010, 04:54 PM
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 20, 2010, 10:10 PM
I think that people find music awesome for often undefinable reasons.  What I mean is, they aren't able to understand exactly why a certain band appeals to them. I feel that sometimes music, or art of any form for that matter, speak to individuals on a level that only that person can discover. I also think music allows people to share their emotions and experiences through the expression of others. It's all about how someone can relate to what's being said or expressed. I also believe that universal themes and emotions speak to most people, and that was the reason I asked for "raw" or "emotional" music. Even if I don't "get" the genre or style, I can still feel the music to a point.  I have had fun in the past reflecting upon why I am the way that I am, but at the same time it's hard to really ask yourself why you like the things that you do.  What do you think?

I think that song on the DVD was the only one they showed. I'll double check the tracklist for you. The performances were cool, but they limited the number for each band and omitted a ton that were at the festival.  

I gotta say that I agree with all of the above. Well said.

Tried to think of something to add during the last 2 days but theres nothing more to say without going way too deep into one of those categories or topics.

One thing that puzzles me at times though: How do people actually like the same type of music as others do? How is it possible that a group of friends of mine all suddenty love The Killers or Franz Ferdinand (just examples, but true ones when it comes to my friends). I just dont get it. Does a big part of people somehow make themselves like certain bands and why does it happen? The answer is probably just as simple as big part of people just dont know that much other music besides the bands they listen to and love.

Just as what comes to paintings and painters, I would say that my favorite painter is Salvador Dali. But thats just because Im not that interested in this field of arts. I dont know much about it and I dont even care enough to find out. Still, I dont look at paintings by Dali every single day as do the people who love their music.

Some people are probably very influenced by other people and start to easily like the stuff that others like as well. Maybe they just want to be a part of a group or they just dont care enough to look for other music. Some people on the other hand just love the music because they really enjoy it. So if you love The Killers or Franz Ferdinand, good for you. I also really envy you because I too would love to see my favorite bands on TV every week or even every day.

Now I went to deep into it anyways, oh well.

Edit. Oh, and thanks for checking it. Probably its just that one track though.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 22, 2010, 08:11 PM
Quote from: An bád dubh on Aug 22, 2010, 04:54 PM
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 20, 2010, 10:10 PM
I think that people find music awesome for often undefinable reasons.  What I mean is, they aren't able to understand exactly why a certain band appeals to them. I feel that sometimes music, or art of any form for that matter, speak to individuals on a level that only that person can discover. I also think music allows people to share their emotions and experiences through the expression of others. It's all about how someone can relate to what's being said or expressed. I also believe that universal themes and emotions speak to most people, and that was the reason I asked for "raw" or "emotional" music. Even if I don't "get" the genre or style, I can still feel the music to a point.  I have had fun in the past reflecting upon why I am the way that I am, but at the same time it's hard to really ask yourself why you like the things that you do.  What do you think?

I think that song on the DVD was the only one they showed. I'll double check the tracklist for you. The performances were cool, but they limited the number for each band and omitted a ton that were at the festival. 

I gotta say that I agree with all of the above. Well said.

Tried to think of something to add during the last 2 days but theres nothing more to say without going way too deep into one of those categories or topics.

One thing that puzzles me at times though: How do people actually like the same type of music as others do? How is it possible that a group of friends of mine all suddenty love The Killers or Franz Ferdinand (just examples, but true ones when it comes to my friends). I just dont get it. Does a big part of people somehow make themselves like certain bands and why does it happen? The answer is probably just as simple as big part of people just dont know that much other music besides the bands they listen to and love.

Just as what comes to paintings and painters, I would say that my favorite painter is Salvador Dali. But thats just because Im not that interested in this field of arts. I dont know much about it and I dont even care enough to find out. Still, I dont look at paintings by Dali every single day as do the people who love their music.

Some people are probably very influenced by other people and start to easily like the stuff that others like as well. Maybe they just want to be a part of a group or they just dont care enough to look for other music. Some people on the other hand just love the music because they really enjoy it. So if you love The Killers or Franz Ferdinand, good for you. I also really envy you because I too would love to see my favorite bands on TV every week or even every day.

Now I went to deep into it anyways, oh well.

Edit. Oh, and thanks for checking it. Probably its just that one track though.

Maybe people like the same bands but pull different elements from them.  For example, one person relates to the lyrics, another to the drummer and his/her skill, and another the style that band plays. No matter what these people share a common bond now. It's the same way on this board. I like heavier, older Deftones best, but others like anything Chino does, while others actually like the melodic side best. Whatever way, we're all here because of the band and our passion for the music.

And it was only the one song. If I were to download only one album by  them, which would I need to grab?
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 24, 2010, 08:56 AM
Quote from: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 22, 2010, 08:11 PM
Maybe people like the same bands but pull different elements from them.  For example, one person relates to the lyrics, another to the drummer and his/her skill, and another the style that band plays. No matter what these people share a common bond now. It's the same way on this board. I like heavier, older Deftones best, but others like anything Chino does, while others actually like the melodic side best. Whatever way, we're all here because of the band and our passion for the music.

And it was only the one song. If I were to download only one album by  them, which would I need to grab?
I think that explanation sounds quite fitting. Explains pretty much why for example Deftones can be loved by such a varied group of people.

I was thinking of which album to recommend you to get... The two first are both so cool but Id say that you grab this:

Murder By Death - Who Will Survive and What Will Be Left of Them? (2003)
http://www.4shared.com/file/155716243/22a99394/murder_by_death_-_who_will_sur.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/155716243/22a99394/murder_by_death_-_who_will_sur.html)

The link is good and working, downloaded it to be sure. Let me know what you thought of it.

Edit. Making a long description short, I love the concept of the album and how it fits with the music:

"It is an album about the Devil wiping a small town off the map."
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 28, 2010, 07:08 AM
Oh by the way, no matter if you enjoyed it or not, give your comments anyways, its always fun to hear what people think  8)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 28, 2010, 08:19 PM
Quote from: An bád dubh on Aug 28, 2010, 07:08 AM
Oh by the way, no matter if you enjoyed it or not, give your comments anyways, its always fun to hear what people think  8)

I haven't forgot about you, I promise. Have it downloaded, but have been really busy. As soon as I get a chance I'll sit down and digest, then tell you how I liked it! 
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 28, 2010, 09:00 PM
Sounds good!
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 30, 2010, 01:17 PM
Murder by Death - Who Will Survive, and What Will Be Left of Them?

The Devil in Mexico - Very Nick Cave, I liked the feel of it.

Killbot 2000 - I found myself tapping my foot and nodding my head with this. Liked the layered instruments and the build to the end of the song.

Until Morale Improves, the Beatings Will Continue - The vocals picked up a bit and I could see he actually had some range.

Three Men Hanging - Really liked this track. I actually played it twice to place the vibe, but enjoyed the mixed emotions. Sort of Modest Mouse, with that dark and somber vibe, but still catchy as Hell.

Intermission - Can't go wrong with bridging tracks lol.

A Masters in Reverse Psychology - The cello stuck out, in a good way. I also started to really like the lyrics at this point. Figurative and literal. Most concept albums will pick one way to go, but this album seems to mix it all together.

The Desert is on Fire - Felt like a good, dirty rock song. The cello/drum/guitar combo was sick.

That Crown Don't Make You a Prince - Ahhh, my favorite on the album. Loved the beginning and how it flowed into the dual vocals. There's an intensity, desperation, that carries this track. Beautiful.

Pillars of Salt - Very melancholy but follows the flow of the album. The keyboards are strong and fitting.

End of the Line - Second favorite on the album. You could play this track for anyone to represent most the album. Beautiful again, with the variety of sounds, and vocally strong. At the end of  the track it felt like a stage play, as the song ended, faded, and then picked up only instrumental again, I could imagine the curtain closing.

Really good album and I was impressed. To be honest, I'm going to have to listen to it again, to read through the lyrics and see if I missed anything, but thanks for the recommendation. I might try to download some more from these guys. Overall, great shit.



Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: theis on Aug 30, 2010, 01:25 PM
Now I gotta check out that album. Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 30, 2010, 01:49 PM
Quote from: theis on Aug 30, 2010, 01:25 PM
Now I gotta check out that album. Sounds interesting.

Worth it.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: theis on Aug 30, 2010, 03:16 PM
So, I just listened. Very nice album. Really enjoyed it.

Reminded me a lot of Cursive's "The Ugly Organ". Many similarities in both vocals and instrumentals.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 30, 2010, 03:31 PM
Now thats what I call giving your comments! Was cool to read your your take on each song.

Was great to hear that you enjoyed it too! If you do decide to grab another album by them, Id say go with "Like the Exorcist, but More Breakdancing" from 2002. As said, their stuff from 2006 and forward, for me, is like listening to another band. Some like it more than their early albums, I on the other hand was really disappointed back in 2006. But I do cherish their 2 first albums, both of them are magnificent.

And theis, you havent heard it either? Man, I hope you enjoy it too.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 30, 2010, 03:32 PM
Man, how slow do I write?

So you checked it arleady too, cool! Glad you liked it  :)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: oldgentlovecraft on Aug 30, 2010, 03:56 PM
Good recommendation for sure!  I'm thinking I will try the other album as well.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: theis on Aug 30, 2010, 04:01 PM
I have a recommendation as well. Some people on this board already know of them, but I can't recommend Clann Zu enough.

Give their album, Rua, a listen. Very emotional, very different, very beautiful and sad.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QPTlAfCb2jU/TDfePULtMuI/AAAAAAAAAL8/APKLdRkopnI/s320/folder.jpg)
http://www.mediafire.com/?88l137tqvy5 (http://www.mediafire.com/?88l137tqvy5)
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 30, 2010, 04:11 PM
Quote from: theis on Aug 30, 2010, 04:01 PM
I have a recommendation as well. Some people on this board already know of them, but I can't recommend Clann Zu enough.

Give their album, Rua, a listen. Very emotional, very different, very beautiful and sad.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QPTlAfCb2jU/TDfePULtMuI/AAAAAAAAAL8/APKLdRkopnI/s320/folder.jpg)
http://www.mediafire.com/?88l137tqvy5 (http://www.mediafire.com/?88l137tqvy5)
Im a bit biased on this one ( given my boardname ;) ) but you sir are correct, one can not recommend Clann Zu enough. Yet another band that broke up wayyyy too early. OR, maybe just at the right time.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 30, 2010, 04:43 PM
Posting a link for you so that you dont have to go through 20 dead links when you at some point check it.

Murder By Death - Like the Exorcist But More Breakdancing
http://rs144.rapidshare.com/files/145066847/murder_by_death_-_like_the_exorcist_but_more_breakdancing.rar (http://rs144.rapidshare.com/files/145066847/murder_by_death_-_like_the_exorcist_but_more_breakdancing.rar)

Peace.
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: bright lights, big city on Aug 30, 2010, 06:22 PM
i wouldn't necessarily say their last 3 albums sound like a completely different band. they're not classic albums, but DEFINITELY worth checking out for the new listeners. I said it earlier, and i'll say it again- Red of Tooth and Claw is a really good, solid album.



tried Clann Zu out several years ago, and couldn't get into them. will try out Clann Zu again today though...
Title: Re: Aural Discomfort
Post by: An bád dubh on Aug 30, 2010, 07:03 PM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 30, 2010, 06:22 PM
i wouldn't necessarily say their last 3 albums sound like a completely different band. they're not classic albums, but DEFINITELY worth checking out for the new listeners. I said it earlier, and i'll say it again- Red of Tooth and Claw is a really good, solid album.



tried Clann Zu out several years ago, and couldn't get into them. will try out Clann Zu again today though...
The music is still good, for some reason I just see the two eras so distinct from each other that for me it feels like its two different bands.