Lots of us have been complaining about how low Frank's part is on the original WGTB track... Tried some shit and eventually made it louder...
Deftones - When Girls Telephone Boys [2011 " improved " version] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__JZrYlJZ4A#ws)
Download links:
MP3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NQZA0WTC (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NQZA0WTC)
WAV
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MXHPOLN0 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MXHPOLN0)
No dude, it sounds great, good job.
Yea i personally didn't see any of the complaints but i remember one youtube clip in particular where frank was loud like that & i liked it.
Really, good job considering you used audacity, what did you do?
I love that song and it would be nice to have that version, IMO definitely do a full one!
If you decide not too, at least share how you did it.
Sounds pretty good! Do the full version man
yea do it
awesome. do it.
(http://ickmusic.com/pics/logos/nike-just-do-it.jpg)
i've never really liked franks part on this song. it's always seemed too loud in the mix during live shows and been kind of annoying. maybe i'm just too used to the album version.
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8189/1287054938463.jpg)
I like it, do the full version, please =)
hmm nice work, can you try it with hexagram, i imagine it would end up sounding quite soft.
That's much better than the original. Full version would be awesome.
Cool! I appreciate people who have time and devotion. I would suggest to treat the breakdown/bridge, but with this much credit I assume the whole song is coming :) I love this song
do that shit, sounds awesome!
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Jan 09, 2011, 06:38 PM
That's much better than the original. Full version would be awesome.
Why thank you, guys, wasn't excepting so much positive feedback. I'll try to get the full one done ASAP.
Yea, I would definitely download the full version once you make it. I went back and listened to the original to compare and I couldn't believe how you could barely his effects on it, since it's drowned out by the other sounds.
^ Yes I think that was the purpose when it was mixed, to have it subtley play in the background.
That's my guess too, they wanted to keep it that subtle at the time of the creation but then realized it was way better when played louder.
This was fucking awesome! Nice job man. Full version for sure! :D
sounds really good!
Dude you just made that song even more fucking awesome! You are a beautiful, beautiful man Vesanic. hahahaha
EDIT: after listening to that snippet, the original track just doesn't sound that appealing to me anymore. HURRY UP AND PUT OUT THE FULL SONG V :D
i have to agree :) really nice!
please hurry up :D
It sounds a lot like wgtb live I think:
Deftones - When Girls Telephone Boys (Pinkpop 2006) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDH7Fx1APR8#)
Usually I don't think that you always have to hear everything loud clear like in your face,it can be nice with sounds that you don't hear at first listen, but with time it means there's more to discover. but this time I think they almost could have mixed up Frank's part a little, Vesanics boost sounds nice. but there's certainly no coincidence that Frank sounds a bit in the background in the original, it's well thought out during the mixing
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 10, 2011, 02:20 AM
Usually I don't think that you always have to hear everything loud clear like in your face,it can be nice with sounds that you don't hear at first listen, but with time it means there's more to discover.
I agree, and that's why my I tried to keep my boost subtle. As you can hear, it's way more audible but still not too present on the track, that's the effect I wanted to keep.
It should be finished tomorrow, if I'm not too lazy.
You need to do MX like they do it live!
http://www.goear.com/listen/ec7f387/wgtb-20-deftones-remixed-by-vesanic (http://www.goear.com/listen/ec7f387/wgtb-20-deftones-remixed-by-vesanic)
Full version tomorrow...
Sounds awesome!!
rad.
mad kudos for that man...i knew i wasnt the only one tripping hearing shit in the background.....where is the begining intro from tho? (the girl talking)
I'm really digging it...gotta love Frank's sound effects.
Well that didn't suck
It seems I'm the only one who hates franks effects on this song. I had no idea it was so popular. The live version always annoyed the hell out of me. Still neat to hear as a studio version though I suppose.
you gotta admit that the breakdown sounds great
Deftones - 07 - When girls telephone boys (Pinkpop 2006) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF4twt_Gqg8#)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 04:34 PM
It seems I'm the only one who hates franks effects on this song.
Hidalgo's gonna hate on it
It's just the chorus effects that get me. The rest is just fine but the dissonant notes on the chorus just sound so bad to me.
Then they mixed it like you want it to. How about a smile :)
I've been trying to add the breakdown from the Pinkpop version to the original track but it's hopeless, seems like the tempo changes way too much on this live version... I'll give it another try.
As for now, consider this the final version !
http://www.goear.com/listen/db566c2/when-girls-telephone-boys-2011-version-deftones (http://www.goear.com/listen/db566c2/when-girls-telephone-boys-2011-version-deftones)
MP3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NQZA0WTC (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NQZA0WTC)
WAV
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MXHPOLN0 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MXHPOLN0)
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 10, 2011, 05:03 PM
Then they mixed it like you want it to. How about a smile :)
:D
Also my girlfriend loves it so good work Ves.
Tell your girlfriend she rocks.
She says you rock as well. She's a big fan of your YouTube page.
Much appreciated. :)
well done dude, always wanted one that sounded more like the live version. mad props
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Jan 10, 2011, 06:42 PM
well done dude, always wanted one that sounded more like the live version. mad props
Totally the feedback I wanted but it wasn't expected at all, haha, thanks guys.
Bestest thread of 2011 so far
Nice job, mang :D
It gives it a whole new lease of life for me.
Good stuff, man.
SOOOOOOOOOO good!!!
I almost overwrit the original. I'll keep both though. Wow what a difference! Great job Vesanic.
If you wanna spread it...
Deftones - When Girls Telephone Boys [2011 " improved " version] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__JZrYlJZ4A#ws)
Thanks V!
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 10, 2011, 04:50 PM
you gotta admit that the breakdown sounds great
Deftones - 07 - When girls telephone boys (Pinkpop 2006) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF4twt_Gqg8#)
That is very hard to watch. just watchin chino is making me tired.
Quote from: deftones86 on Jan 11, 2011, 09:10 AM
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 10, 2011, 04:50 PM
you gotta admit that the breakdown sounds great
Deftones - 07 - When girls telephone boys (Pinkpop 2006) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF4twt_Gqg8#)
That is very hard to watch. just watchin chino is making me tired.
Lol def not a good time period for Chino.
thats a great job v,
but i still cant hear frank's part at 2:38-3:20
make it LOUUDER V! :D
Been trying, can't. :(
Nice Work! Sounds Awesome!
Free Bird !!!!
I'd like to hear what all the fuss is about, anyone mind uploading it on mediafire? iPhone resricts me from opening the file on those websites and I am computerless. Thanks in advance.
Edit: I just saw the YouTube link, nevermind lol.
Haha my phone doesn't play it. iFail. So if someone could upload it to MEDIAFIRE, that'd be great. Thanks.
Quote from: shine down unshy on Jan 12, 2011, 10:21 PM
Haha my phone doesn't play it. iFail. So if someone could upload it to MEDIAFIRE, that'd be great. Thanks.
http://www.mediafire.com/?whs63hq8a7ulc88 (http://www.mediafire.com/?whs63hq8a7ulc88)
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Always loved the live version more!! Thank u V
love it, awesome job ;)
this kinda makes me wonder what other songs there are that could be made a little more interesting if franks parts were louder. things to ponder...haha
really a good job vesanic!
tranks!
Quote from: Sushi-X on Jan 12, 2011, 11:56 PM
Quote from: shine down unshy on Jan 12, 2011, 10:21 PM
Haha my phone doesn't play it. iFail. So if someone could upload it to MEDIAFIRE, that'd be great. Thanks.
http://www.mediafire.com/?whs63hq8a7ulc88 (http://www.mediafire.com/?whs63hq8a7ulc88)
Muchos gracias, dude..you rock.
Hey Ves, and what about Hexagram and Diamond Eyes? you can try boost the frank´s part of these songs!
Quote from: illmono on Jan 14, 2011, 03:52 PM
Hey Ves, and what about Hexagram and Diamond Eyes? you can try boost the frank´s part of these songs!
Diamond Eyes?!?!?! it's pretty good mixed in there imo..
hexagram!
hmmm...one more sound and this song is diffrent.
i don't know that with this is better than original version or something but it sonds great.
Good idea with this V.
well this is going to be interesting to listen to when I'm sparking a J
Haha, have a good one. Thanks to everybody for the positive feedback.
Matt, I'm pretty surprised by your opinion. I think this effect really adds something to the whole enraged vibe. The melodic side of it draws a beautiful contrast when matched up with this whole river of anger.
Must agree.
The chugging riff is awesome and well pissed off along with Chino's vocals and the effect gives it more of a mood.
Awesome MAN! Great job! Enjoyed it
thanks alot, sounds great :)
It has officially replaced the album version on my ipod. Should have been that way anyways!
Hey V email this to the mixer and show him where he went wrong! lol
sounds like a second guitar being played but good job!
now i have a request, can u make franks part louder near the end of rapture after roughly 2:56.. its a serious request but if u can pull it off, ur the man!
please and thank you
I wish I could show him, haha.
Nah man, I don't think I can do that. Sorry.
I have to agree with "sing blue silver". Listening to the live versions annoyed me, because it was waaay too loud. It just doesn't pack that heavy punch. It makes the song softer and that song was supposed to be an emotionally heavy song. I haven't been able to listen to your version of it, because of my shitty computer issues, but I will when i can. I just hope it's not as obnoxious sounding as some of the live versions. I think it might actually sound cool toned down a bit though. Now i want to ram my fist through my laptop screen even more. Last week my computer froze while I was watching the scene from office space on youtube, where they destroy the fax machine. I thought it was kind of ironic and found it very hard not to find my baseball bat and give this little bastard hell.
Quote from: 7t9cobra on Jan 23, 2011, 12:50 PM
I have to agree with "sing blue silver". Listening to the live versions annoyed me, because it was waaay too loud. It just doesn't pack that heavy punch. It makes the song softer and that song was supposed to be an emotionally heavy song. I haven't been able to listen to your version of it, because of my shitty computer issues, but I will when i can. I just hope it's not as obnoxious sounding as some of the live versions. I think it might actually sound cool toned down a bit though. Now i want to ram my fist through my laptop screen even more. Last week my computer froze while I was watching the scene from office space on youtube, where they destroy the fax machine. I thought it was kind of ironic and found it very hard not to find my baseball bat and give this little bastard hell.
LMFAAAAAOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! You will enjoy this version more than any. Perfect fit and volume of his keyboard sound.
You've done a great job but I still prefer the original.
I like Franks part - it adds a lot to the song, but I think the way they did it with it adding texture in the subtle way it does in the background is just perfect. I'd love to hear what you do with Diamond Eyes - I love Franks part on this - it really elevates that song to a level of greatness. YSTB would also be another interesting one to try out.
Alright, i listened to it. I think you did a great job as far as quality. I think franks part shouldve been a little louder, but definitely not that loud. It drowns out the heaviness. It's hard to hear the rest of the song, because it's so loud. I think if it were SLIGHTLY enhanced, instead of dramatically it would probably sound really good. That song to me is heavy emotionally and i think that mellowed it out. I listen to that song to take out aggression. You do good work though, I will give you that!
Thanks for remaining objective.
Is that you on that weird signature picture ?
tight!
Haha no. Im not a girl. I had a crazy ass dream of a girl that looked like that who jumped at my throat so i found a pic of a girl with fangs and used windows paint to make that pic. I have some insanely trippy dreams sometimes and that was a ten second one i liked
how exactly did you do this? you recorded the part yourself or boosted his part?
nice job dude
There's that live version from 2006 where the sample of Frank is almost the only thing you can hear. So I just slowed it down and looped it over the original track choruses.
I always enjoyed Frank's part in this song and found it to be so typical of Deftones to create such a nasty song, yet sneak some melody in there underneath the screaming. This is another reason why Self-Titled is up there as far as favorite Deftones albums is concerned. They were able to crank up the heaviness and not lose the melody that provided them so much success with White Pony.
Great work, Vesanic.
Is there anyway someone (Vesanic ) can rip (cleanly) the individual samples used by frank from this song????
Nah man, sorry. The sample I used still includes some noises from the rest of the band.
Can i get them anyway, maybe i can clean them up a little more. looking to perform this song live, and would love to add this effect.
Sure. But I deleted the ones I used... Here are new ones, without the good tempo, though:
Chorus sample (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4BA3PLE6)
After chorus sample (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LCGU4K0P)
Im sorry if you already answered this Vesanic, but did you use the pinkpop 2006 version as a sample?
No, I used the Rock am Ring 2006 version.
ah thanks man, as soon as I saw the pinkpop performance i thought of you
Man now when I hear that song I got that part in my head...
I liked it. Thanks man. :)
Oh and Hexagram would be great too.
Could someone re-up this version for me? Lost the original file.
Quote from: Sushi-X on Jan 12, 2011, 11:56 PM
Quote from: shine down unshy on Jan 12, 2011, 10:21 PM
Haha my phone doesn't play it. iFail. So if someone could upload it to MEDIAFIRE, that'd be great. Thanks.
http://www.mediafire.com/?whs63hq8a7ulc88 (http://www.mediafire.com/?whs63hq8a7ulc88)
Had not seen this. Thanks, bebo.
Awesome stuff, thanks a lot!
Is there any way to get the source file? I would like to have it lossless!
I noticed in the Area 4 Festival performance of "WTGB" from 2009, there is a little extra effect at the end of the chorus before it goes back to the verse which sounds like a somber violin sample. It actually sounds very nice.
See for yourself at points like 1:17
deftones - when girls telephone boys (08/21/09) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKvLRvfwbck#ws)
Maybe you could try to make a version with this too, Ves?
Also, on a slightly unrelated note, back in like 2000 when they'd play "Mascara" live, I noticed Frank would put in a little watery sound and a creepy piano sample. It would be kind of awesome to see this on the official track as well......
See what you mean, but I don't think I could include it.
When Deftones performed WGTB on Rock am Ring 2006 Frank's keys were pretty loud on the mix, i always remember that show because 1. it was the first concert i downloaded and 2. Because it was the first time i ever heard the keyboard on that song.
Deftones - When Girls Telephone Boys (Live In Rock Am Ring)(HQ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37KFDTFneWY#)
Lost it again. Could someone upload it for me, please?
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 03, 2012, 12:22 AM
Lost it again. Could someone upload it for me, please?
http://www.mediafire.com/?544m1tu739jkdns (http://www.mediafire.com/?544m1tu739jkdns)
"Permission Denied.
This file has been identified as a copyright protected work and cannot be distributed using MediaFire."
I'll upload it to Google Drive then.
EDIT: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8-_yk0wdmXFWXZydENsQi1vR0U
Quote from: Knucklestones on Oct 03, 2012, 12:33 AM
I'll upload it to Google Drive then.
EDIT: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8-_yk0wdmXFWXZydENsQi1vR0U
Excellent!!! Thank you for uploading the file again!!!!!!!!!
Fuckin sic man. Thanks Vesanic. Unfortunately Bloody cape has taken it's place as my favorite on ST.
Made a video for the song, using my version of WGTB. Deftones-argentina and I also boosted the bridge effects now.
Download (https://mega.co.nz/#!SRoQFTBJ!hUi-RiW5MTor9q351oH2ftJiTCFeHTYO8GKZwndAIVA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVSYEkJGH_c#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVSYEkJGH_c#ws)
looks and sounds very cool, god damn they were one dark ass band
Someone please have it?