Hey fellow londoners,
Any first hand testimony about what's happening at the moment ?
well
do you notice anything special all these looters have in common? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023667/London-riots-Looter-posts-photo-booty-Facebook.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023667/London-riots-Looter-posts-photo-booty-Facebook.html)
London Riots - Scum steal from injured boy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gex_ya4-Oo#ws)
Wow...that video.
The lowest of low...absolute SCUM. Just fucking kill those rodents.
UGH...
fucking cunts in that video, tear gas and rubbet bullets for those fuckers. bloody animals.
Yeah of course they're all black in that Daily Mail link. That newspaper is renowned for it's right wing views. But the guy who actually robbed the injured boy was white so we can't go around saying it's all these urban and ethnic minorities that are rioting and looting etc as clearly it's not. Scum of the earth come in all colours and backgrounds.
The majority of these people are causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble but there is I think, an underlying issue here that we the people have had enough of the ever increasing prices of consumer goods and the fear of another recession hitting Europe and this country. The little people get the brunt of these issues as always but unfortunately it's also seen as an excuse to cause out right chaos. It is arguable that the UK is one of the most diverse, multicultural and advanced nations anywhere on earth. Yet these problems still persist. We have a benefit system that pays even those unable to get a job, it is generous. Tell me, what more can we do?
I'm waiting for something to break the camel's back here in the US.
Hopefully if there is a riot here in the US it'll be about something a little more important.
It seems the rioters have been using twitter to coordinate. They're just giving government another reason to crack down on internet privacy.
Quote from: downtownpony on Aug 09, 2011, 04:00 PM
Hopefully if there is a riot here in the US it'll be about something a little more important.
It's easy to dismiss the rioters as "scum with nothing better to do" but there are much deeper problems here. These kids rioting don't see themselves having a future at all. They have been failed by society as a whole, they've been failed by the government cutting arts funding and closing youth centres, unemployment is rife to the point where even the ones desperately trying to seek work simply can't find it, and the boiling point to all this (Mark Duggan events) is a situation that is VERY REAL.
We live in pretty desperate times as a whole, and the inner city youth are at the bottom of the barrel. So whilst this behaviour IS disgusting, try and have some compassion and relate to fellow human beings who literally feel hopeless and don't see a way out. When you think about, the right emotion to feel in some of the cases is just sadness and pity - kids robbing a flat screen TV when they see an opportunity to... because they know they'll never be able to afford it. Is a kid robbing some trainers that different to a corrupt politician fiddling the expenses accounts, or corrupt policemen and journalists taking bribes (as we've seen in the phone-hacking scandals?). So what kind of example are those people setting?
Quote from: Starz on Aug 09, 2011, 04:50 PM
Quote from: downtownpony on Aug 09, 2011, 04:00 PM
Hopefully if there is a riot here in the US it'll be about something a little more important.
It's easy to dismiss the rioters as "scum with nothing better to do" but there are much deeper problems here. These kids rioting don't see themselves having a future at all. They have been failed by society as a whole, they've been failed by the government cutting arts funding and closing youth centres, unemployment is rife to the point where even the ones desperately trying to seek work simply can't find it, and the boiling point to all this (Mark Duggan events) is a situation that is VERY REAL.
We live in pretty desperate times as a whole, and the inner city youth are at the bottom of the barrel. So whilst this behaviour IS disgusting, try and have some compassion and relate to fellow human beings who literally feel hopeless and don't see a way out. When you think about, the right emotion to feel in some of the cases is just sadness and pity - kids robbing a flat screen TV when they see an opportunity to... because they know they'll never be able to afford it. Is a kid robbing some trainers that different to a corrupt politician fiddling the expenses accounts, or corrupt policemen and journalists taking bribes (as we've seen in the phone-hacking scandals?). So what kind of example are those people setting?
I just think they are wasting their energy, if they are angry at the politicians than they should go after them, and demand change, or else the riots will continue. From what I can tell the only things they care about are getting their flat screens, and setting cars on fire. It's accomplishing nothing.
I don't really think there are any excuses for this sort of behaviour. fine, it can explain WHY it's happening. but they're supposed to live in a democracy and should act the part. I know it can feel frustrating looking at it that way, but if they really want to make a change they can do so with legal means.
It's an interesting foreshadowing for what's going to happen in America when we officially can't afford the freebies and handouts and our inflation catches up with us. I hope we can behave more maturely ::)
Quote from: alvarezbassist17 on Aug 09, 2011, 07:51 PM
It's an interesting foreshadowing for what's going to happen in America when we officially can't afford the freebies and handouts and our inflation catches up with us. I hope we can behave more maturely ::)
Haha yeah right, in a country where guns are easily accessible. Shit's gonna be like Y2K again. Anyone ho thinks these people have due cause to riot is not looking at the bigger picture. These copy cat outbreaks are just opportunism. I live in a shitty council run area too and this shit would be happening here too if all our shops were in one place, the only reason it hasn't broke out here yet is because people are too lazy to run around the whole city stealing shit. This is not a racist pun in any way but it's a case of monkey see, monkey do.
The police are not to blame because the poor bastards have to wait around for permission to act just incase there is something potentially more dangerous or violent going on somewhere else in the cities. The government here is bullshit yes, but most of these vandals don't know the first thing about politics. They are relying on the fact that people will believe them when they say "WE'RE MAD AT THE GOVERNMENT CUZ OF TAXES!" seeing as the country is under a lot of criticism from pretty much everyone, they're allowing these thugs to use it as a scapegoat. I've encountered many people like those in these riots and they are the worst sort of people. Whatever problems they have in life ( poverty, broken homes, drug problems ) they'll take it out on you and try to make it your fault.
The Clash - London's Burning (live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPcjkgYS-cU#)
Lawless, lazy, benefit scrounging, fucking layabout scum. Imagine trying to get those cunts to pay $5 for the Crosses EP. Haha!
Kicked off a little in Liverpool last night. Drove home from work at 4am past a burnt out van. All jumping on the fucking bandwagon because some twat drug dealer was shot by the police in London.
Fucking idiots!
FUCK DA POLICE-NWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A05uvpG3cLs#)
At least NWA had a point. I think the fact that we have seen no police action towards these minorities proves they are not targeted. British police are really tolerant.
.^ to me, this proves something totally different...police were told to stand down...no action to help stop the riots. There was even knowledge beforehand yet they did nothing . This is to instill fear into the public that is watching.
I also agree with what downtownpony said about "cracking down" on internet privacy.
ain't got nuttin' on LA, '92.
wheres Chuck Norris when you need him!that is the question. bet he would bitchslap all those twats and sort this out in less than 24 hours. someone get him on a plain asap!!!
The worse thing is that most of the rioters are under 21 and have no excuse to say it's because their getting a bad deal. They should have studied harder at school instead of gang banging and all that ho shit. I feel sick and angry when I watch the news, its a fucking joke. One skank said that she was doing it to get her taxes back, the fucking slag probably doesn't even work.
It's one thing to burn and loot national companies but when it's an independent shop or some ones car or home it's fucking sick. Those people are their neighbours. They haven't even thought that setting fire to a shop will also destroy the home of the person living in the flat upstairs or even kill them.
I know of people that haven't even been to sleep because they have no idea if their gonna see the morning.
Their just fucking chav scum with no real reason to do this.
Quote from: Starz on Aug 09, 2011, 04:50 PM
Quote from: downtownpony on Aug 09, 2011, 04:00 PM
Hopefully if there is a riot here in the US it'll be about something a little more important.
It's easy to dismiss the rioters as "scum with nothing better to do" but there are much deeper problems here. These kids rioting don't see themselves having a future at all. They have been failed by society as a whole, they've been failed by the government cutting arts funding and closing youth centres, unemployment is rife to the point where even the ones desperately trying to seek work simply can't find it, and the boiling point to all this (Mark Duggan events) is a situation that is VERY REAL.
We live in pretty desperate times as a whole, and the inner city youth are at the bottom of the barrel. So whilst this behaviour IS disgusting, try and have some compassion and relate to fellow human beings who literally feel hopeless and don't see a way out. When you think about, the right emotion to feel in some of the cases is just sadness and pity - kids robbing a flat screen TV when they see an opportunity to... because they know they'll never be able to afford it. Is a kid robbing some trainers that different to a corrupt politician fiddling the expenses accounts, or corrupt policemen and journalists taking bribes (as we've seen in the phone-hacking scandals?). So what kind of example are those people setting?
This is very human of you and I appreciate it a lot. We have problems in my country too - based on the same social structure without jobs, with alcoholism and complete degradation of values. People are desperate.. I am very very worried that this all will only go worse all over the world
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 10, 2011, 04:05 AM
ain't got nuttin' on LA, '92.
Probably not but it isn't a Battle of the biggest riot! haha
he should have mid kick him in the air, but still good
London Riots Need to be Stopped Like this *Great Example* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdFP9w_q3mw#)
Internet piracy caused all this.
That, and violent video games of course.... And death metal while we're at it...
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 11, 2011, 03:35 PM
And death metal while we're at it...
this. if those kids would've listen to emotional gay metal like deftones none of this would've happen
I'm pretty sure turning off social media during a riot will just piss more people off.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14493497 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14493497)
Britain is a riot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAC0YSmK0g&feature=feedu#ws)
he gets it right again.
there should be no such thing as sympathy or solidarity for those who fight against freedom. its a decision each of them makes whether to behave like a civilized person or a criminal. those people arent living in syria, lybia, jemen, iran, egypt or tunesia.
Never seen any of his other videos but I totally agree with the man on this.
PRAY - MC Hammer ^^ 1990 HD Music Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yo5HZuDxjY#ws)
Manchester Riots 2011: scenes from Whalley Range (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cbVW_QS2eE#)
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this kind of stuff will probably keep happening. people will start to relize their numbers. there's only 1 cop per 1000 citizens in the U.S. and theres a whole lot of guns. England has 6 guns per 100 citizens. the U.S. has 88 guns per 100.
I have a gun.............just sayin.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Aug 15, 2011, 07:35 AM
Quote from: deftones86 on Aug 13, 2011, 12:37 PM
the U.S. has 88 guns per 100.
What!?
What helps that stat are the people like my best friend's dad, who have a closet full of awesomeness.
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Quote from: bright lights, big city on Aug 15, 2011, 01:57 PM
Quote from: Crazylegs on Aug 15, 2011, 07:35 AM
Quote from: deftones86 on Aug 13, 2011, 12:37 PM
the U.S. has 88 guns per 100.
What!?
What helps that stat are the people like my best friend's dad, who have a closet full of awesomeness.
yeah this is true. My dad had over 50 handguns and 30 rifles at one time.
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 24, 2011, 09:12 AM
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And this is very true