So now that KNY is yesterday's news, let's go ahead and start focusing on their next album. Any thoughts? Wishes? The other week Stef said that we "have yet to see shit blow up" and that we "haven't seen anything yet". And I forget if he was talking about his Meshuggah style of playing, or feuds with him and Chino. It was one or the other haha...
We should expect them back in the rehearsal spot to write new music by Christmas of this year. edit: I should say that this last sentence is bullshit before some people get confused..
DEFTONES 2014?
im down
what the fuck
2 more hours.
more songs like rosemary and i am happy :p
I really hope its like Self titled and white pony, cause that when c note and the gang are best. yeah sounds tight
less lyrics about watching and raising babies
Perhaps mix it up.
Some songs that sound pre-SNW, some that don't.
I think the next album will be very interesting... If you pretend Deftones are a new band since Diamond Eyes came out, (new sound, new bassist, new producer, etc) then this will be the third album from the "new" Deftones, which would be like White Pony, which was a pretty drastic change from the first two albums... So hopefully something like this is in store, but even better...
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 26, 2012, 01:03 AM
less lyrics about watching and raising babies
nah dude. more lyrics about watching and raising babies
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Nov 26, 2012, 01:25 AM
I think the next album will be very interesting... If you pretend Deftones are a new band since Diamond Eyes came out, (new sound, new bassist, new producer, etc) then this will be the third album from the "new" Deftones, which would be like White Pony, which was a pretty drastic change from the first two albums... So hopefully something like this is in store, but even better...
I would love another White pony but you can't just disregard the older albums as the majority of band hasn't changed ,I could see them possibly doing an all electronic album or something just to try something new though
Quote from: Playhouse on Nov 26, 2012, 01:26 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 26, 2012, 01:03 AM
less lyrics about watching and raising babies
nah dude. more lyrics about watching and raising babies
fuck that shit, more songs about rape babies
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 26, 2012, 01:31 AM
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Nov 26, 2012, 01:25 AM
I think the next album will be very interesting... If you pretend Deftones are a new band since Diamond Eyes came out, (new sound, new bassist, new producer, etc) then this will be the third album from the "new" Deftones, which would be like White Pony, which was a pretty drastic change from the first two albums... So hopefully something like this is in store, but even better...
I would love another White pony but you can't just disregard the older albums as the majority of band hasn't changed ,I could see them possibly doing an all electronic album or something just to try something new though
I could see that too. Deftones going Radiohead (and Linkin Park) on us. I wouldn't hate an electronic Deftones album. It might not be my favorite, but I'd be cool with it.
They also talked about doing a hip-hop album as well so that could be an option i would also like see another b-sides and rarities cd
I'm gonna call it: Their next album will be a Best Of Collection......and we will all bitch on here for months about why certain songs did or didn't make the cut.
Has the new album leaked yet?
PM please guise !!!!!!!
Quote from: tarkil on Nov 26, 2012, 06:19 AM
PM please guise !!!!!!!
Your inbox are full, man.
we should get EROS before the decade ends though...
i still havent bought KNY
Haha theres no rush.
I thought there already was a thread like this one?
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,19915.0.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,19915.0.html)
Anyway, still think they need:
(http://www.mediterraneandiet.com/Images/dates.jpg)
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Nov 26, 2012, 08:07 PM
i still havent bought KNY
I confess: neither have I.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Deftones took a break. I know some will disagree, but I'm more interested in hearing Chino's various side projects and Sol Invicto than another Deftones album.
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 26, 2012, 09:21 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Deftones took a break
for how long?
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 26, 2012, 09:21 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Deftones took a break. I know some will disagree, but I'm more interested in hearing Chino's various side projects and Sol Invicto than another Deftones album.
I can somewhat agree with that. I would especially like to hear some more Crosses and Team Sleep music.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 26, 2012, 09:23 PM
for how long?
That's a good question.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 26, 2012, 09:23 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 26, 2012, 09:21 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Deftones took a break
for how long?
Not sure exactly. I want Chino to release Palms, the rest of the Crosses songs and then go do another album with Team Sleep. So, three to four year hiatus?
Sounds reasonable.
fuck the break shit. a 4 year break seems reasonable? LOLZ. they are riding high and have been for the last three years, why stop now.
I think they should take more than 3 months to write and record the next album though, take their time with the next one.
chino needs to work on his lyrics
Quote from: only pieces remain on Nov 26, 2012, 10:39 PM
why stop now.
Because there's nowhere new for them to go musically. They have already done it all.
well if thats the case then why not just break up? whats the point of going on hiatus, short or otherwise?
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 26, 2012, 10:44 PM
Quote from: only pieces remain on Nov 26, 2012, 10:39 PM
why stop now.
Because there's nowhere new for them to go musically. They have already done it all.
That's what people usually say and then they come back with something new and surprise everyone these are very creative people they haven't done all they can do they don't have to stick with the metal sound either
For the next album I want Stephen to step his game up and play more melodic stuff, LESS redundant use of power chords and experiment with eccentric chord voicings, and finally write a lengthy semi- complex solo. If Stephen wants to "Dazzle" like he said with his guitar playing, I really wish he would try to practice a little more, and close out his career as a guitarist with some awesome riffs on the last couple albums. Abe is solid, he can just keep doing what he's doing. For Chino, I want more gritty ST/ WP era vocals, with more abstract, dark lyrics like Digital Bath. Pretty much what everyone and their brother here on SL is wanting again from Chino in the vocal and lyrical department. I thought Koi No Yokan was suppose to be a "Futuristic-like" album... To me I didnt think of this album sounding anything futuristic really. On the next one, I just want them to actually accomplish something like that and experiment more with different sounds, time signatures. This is all hopeful for the next coming years ahead, however if they rush the next album like they did KNY, I don't see another album in the ranks of "White Pony" happening anytime soon or if at all.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 26, 2012, 12:40 AM
2 more hours.
2 MORE HOURSSSS!!!!
Whens the leak coming out dammit! Anybody any news on the leak?
can i get a link to the new album ?
On a serious note, i'd like to see them change producer on the next album. Whether it be Terry or not.
I heard KNY is the last one from someone in the touring/promotion biz. Might be full of shit, though.
Quote from: Caín on Nov 27, 2012, 09:04 PM
I heard KNY is the last one from someone in the touring/promotion biz. Might be full of shit, though.
Yup. Full of shit.
Quote from: Caín on Nov 27, 2012, 09:04 PM
I heard KNY is the last one from someone in the touring/promotion biz. Might be full of shit, though.
If that was true, what an impressive catalogue of albums by a band.
Quote from: Caín on Nov 27, 2012, 09:04 PM
I heard KNY is the last one from someone in the touring/promotion biz. Might be full of shit, though.
might be true, but I doubt the band would talk about that to a lot of people and it being information someone in the touring/promotion business knows of. if it's someone close to the band, then maybe. and if it was the last release on the album, then sure - that wouldn't be a secret. but I don't think they'd decide to quit when this tour is finished and run around and tell people about it without an official announcement.
I think that they'll make another record as quickly as they did the last one, tour it, etc., and then take a break... Maybe will release Eros during this time, depending on the Chi situation.. I wouldn't be surprised if we get another album in late 2014 - early '15 and then 5 years off from making a new record...
i´m expecting a break, after KNY promotion tour.
I can't see it being their last. I'd say one more. They seem to be having fun and I know they want to make more music with Sergio. Then again, it's possible some of them are comfortable with retirement. I suspect a lengthy hiatus before announcing the end so lets just wait and see. For now though we've got new music and the band are very much alive and active so lets not focus on the end quite yet.
after the 2013 tour cycle they are gonna be fried.
the break wouldnt be a surprise.
i say 2014-mid 2015 they get a break. we get more crosses and palms in the meantime.
mid 2015- early 2016 writting - recording - some shows
2016 new album out touring
mid 2017 break and hiatus
2018 we get EROS, as posthumous
2018-2019 band call it quits, farewell tour.
...they would have a good run.
deftones needs to dump vega and bring back dominic garcia in the band
seems that the general consensus is another ST/WP style album, and I agree.. ST is my personal favorite. But I think that's where Eros will come into play. From the clips and snippets we've heard, I think Eros is going to sound a lot like ST/WP.
I can see them putting out another album by 2015, then taking a break and hopefully we'll get to see a release of Eros.
Also, about KNY being their last album? Hah! No way. They are very much alive and reinvigorated with their success of Diamond Eyes & KNY. I could see a short hiatus in the next few years, but not a complete break up of the band.
They got another album or two left in them.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 28, 2012, 06:53 PM
deftones needs to dump vega and bring back dominic garcia in the band
Why? Vega is doing just fine. Doubt they'll do that.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 28, 2012, 06:53 PM
deftones needs to dump vega and bring back dominic garcia in the band
and why is that? are you going to blame everything you don't like about DE and KNY on him? he's a fantastic bass player and he adds a lot to the sound. I doubt he has had a huge impact on the songwriting on the other hand.
Quote from: Jacob on Nov 28, 2012, 08:09 PM
I doubt he has had a huge impact on the songwriting on the other hand.
Maybe, maybe not. But I wouldn't be surprised if the sound on KNY (more rock than metal) was partly due to his growing influence.
In all cases he is a great bass player.
sergio is more metal than most in the band...
I dont see it being their last album. They have a good mentality towards making music now, they have fun with it and seem to be more productive and collaborative, they no doubt are still enjoying it, etc. I see no reason for them to call it quits. If it becomes boring to them, they'll stop, but right now they're still enjoying it, Chino is all over the place with side projects, etc. Still gt plenty of music left in them to make. Whether it's music most ppl will be happy with or not is another question, of course.
I think the new album will be out come christmas....some nice festive Jingles on there
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
For the next album I want (...) more gritty ST/ WP era vocals, with more abstract, dark lyrics like Digital Bath. Pretty much what everyone and their brother here on SL is wanting again from Chino in the vocal and lyrical department.
I dont get why people dont get that this time is over. Done, finished and passed. Apparently chino is just not like that anymore. His life seems pretty cool, hes in love, hes got kids, his band is still alive and well, why the fuck shoud he ever sing about dark and sick shit again? Dont get me wrong, i totally loved that era, but why should it come back?
Exactly he's a happily married 40yr old father who's enjoying life so the inspiration for his lyrics is more positive and i bet if he tried to write a dark song at the moment it would sound insincere and fake
Quote from: DJR on Nov 30, 2012, 01:57 PM
I think the new album will be out come christmas....some nice festive Jingles on there
Well I hope so!
Quote from: GrandeJano on Nov 30, 2012, 07:30 PM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
For the next album I want (...) more gritty ST/ WP era vocals, with more abstract, dark lyrics like Digital Bath. Pretty much what everyone and their brother here on SL is wanting again from Chino in the vocal and lyrical department.
I dont get why people dont get that this time is over. Done, finished and passed. Apparently chino is just not like that anymore. His life seems pretty cool, hes in love, hes got kids, his band is still alive and well, why the fuck shoud he ever sing about dark and sick shit again? Dont get me wrong, i totally loved that era, but why should it come back?
Well said. SO many members of SL need to get this into their head. It's just retarded wanting Chino to act like how he was in his 20s. It irks me when much of this board always think they know what's best for Deftones, and still act like the band owes them something. Go listen to WP/ST if you want 'Chino from that era'.
Quote from: GrandeJano on Nov 30, 2012, 07:30 PM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
For the next album I want (...) more gritty ST/ WP era vocals, with more abstract, dark lyrics like Digital Bath. Pretty much what everyone and their brother here on SL is wanting again from Chino in the vocal and lyrical department.
I dont get why people dont get that this time is over. Done, finished and passed. Apparently chino is just not like that anymore. His life seems pretty cool, hes in love, hes got kids, his band is still alive and well, why the fuck shoud he ever sing about dark and sick shit again? Dont get me wrong, i totally loved that era, but why should it come back?
This. I love that era and it'll always be my favorite because of the raw emotion, the darkness, the lyrics, the music, the vocals...all of it. Fits perfectly into my life and nothing will ever change that. So would I love more albums frm my favorite band that capture those things again (but evolve them of course)? Yes, yes I truly would. But...not at the expense of their well-being. Plus that time is over, it was almost a decade and over ago, a lot has changed in their lives since then. We can all have preferences on what we wanna hear, but I dont think anyone should hope it comes back, because...well, it wont, things arent gonna go back to that again. Better to accept that sooner rather than later, because some ppl dont like the new album simply because it's not how their music used to be. Not everyone; some ppl dont like it because they just dont like it. But the ppl who cant like their last two albums because of the changes frm previous albums that they prefer, it's just holding them back.
They could always go through some rough times again, though... And we'll get a record of Chino screaming his ass off again when he's in his 60's...
Isn't it too early to discuss a new album??
The whole thread was started as a joke we know it's way to early to guess with any seriousness it's just fun to speculate and see what people think might be the next step.
I think a two year break after this album then Crosses and Palms tours (team sleep is Dead) then they come back write an amazing album then the world ends.
Team Sleeps not entirely dead Chino said him and Crook never stopped doing stuff together their just doing it more casual now ,I think team sleep got too big and it ruined the fun of it for them because the pressure started to come on,I'm really looking forward to Palms though and Crosses will be amazing
Here's the way I see it, Deftones albums seem to follow a pattern. It follows- Adernaline- Heavy, Around the Fur- Heavy, White Pony- Experimental, Deftones- Heavy, Saturday Night Wrist- Experimental, Diamond Eyes- Heavy (Bite me, DE is heavy), Koi No Yokan- Experimental. So if you follow that pattern the next Deftones album will be heavy...
Quote from: OnyxPanicProne on Dec 02, 2012, 02:01 PM
Here's the way I see it, Deftones albums seem to follow a pattern. It follows- Adernaline- Heavy, Around the Fur- Heavy, White Pony- Experimental, Deftones- Heavy, Saturday Night Wrist- Experimental, Diamond Eyes- Heavy (Bite me, DE is heavy), Koi No Yokan- Experimental. So if you follow that pattern the next Deftones album will be heavy...
Idk if its true but i believe it.
Quote from: OnyxPanicProne on Dec 02, 2012, 02:01 PM
Here's the way I see it, Deftones albums seem to follow a pattern. It follows- Adernaline- Heavy, Around the Fur- Heavy, White Pony- Experimental, Deftones- Heavy, Saturday Night Wrist- Experimental, Diamond Eyes- Heavy (Bite me, DE is heavy), Koi No Yokan- Experimental. So if you follow that pattern the next Deftones album will be heavy...
Well if that's not pure logic right there then I don't know what is.
Quote from: OnyxPanicProne on Dec 02, 2012, 02:01 PM
Here's the way I see it, Deftones albums seem to follow a pattern. It follows- Adernaline- Heavy, Around the Fur- Heavy, White Pony- Experimental, Deftones- Heavy, Saturday Night Wrist- Experimental, Diamond Eyes- Heavy (Bite me, DE is heavy), Koi No Yokan- Experimental. So if you follow that pattern the next Deftones album will be heavy...
That sounds very accurate.
Watch the next album be experimental just to prove me wrong
Pretty good theory but i don't think's it that cut and Dry Self Titled was as experimental with stuff like lucky you and Anniversary ,White Pony called be called Heavy aswell because of songs like Korea and Elite
Hexagram, WGTB and Bloody Cape (dat bridge) could tip the scale pretty heavily on their own.
Oho.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 02, 2012, 06:59 AM
The whole thread was started as a joke we know it's way to early to guess with any seriousness it's just fun to speculate and see what people think might be the next step.
I'll join in the game. My Bloody Valentine esque Dream Pop with occasional harsh screams sprinkled in. Here's to hoping haha, whatever they end up doing though I'm sure it will be top notch.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 02, 2012, 10:34 PM
Pretty good theory but i don't think's it that cut and Dry Self Titled was as experimental with stuff like lucky you and Anniversary ,White Pony called be called Heavy aswell because of songs like Korea and Elite
Yeah you can throw in a couple oddballs and say it could go the other way, but they're outliers. The overall feel of the album is what he's talking about, I assume.
The real question here is, What is Stef going to do guitar-wise? I think they are going to break up when there is no more room for down tuning or maybe next album will be done entirely with bass guitars, or maybe chino will begin to use 7 strings...
but the logic says that Stef will switch to 9 string guitars
AD, ATF, WP -> 6 strings
S/T, SNW -> 7 strings
DE, KNY -> 8 strings
???, ??? -> 9 strings
and then they Break up
9 strings guitar
(http://www.rondomusic.net/photos/electric/septorelt930ebcplizardburst5.jpg)
Quote from: Teknoman on Dec 08, 2012, 04:01 AM
The real question here is, What is Stef going to do guitar-wise? I think they are going to break up when there is no more room for down tuning or maybe next album will be done entirely with bass guitars, or maybe chino will begin to use 7 strings...
but the logic says that Stef will switch to 9 string guitars
AD, ATF, WP -> 6 strings
S/T, SNW -> 7 strings
DE, KNY -> 8 strings
???, ??? -> 9 strings
and then they Break up
9 strings guitar
(http://www.rondomusic.net/photos/electric/septorelt930ebcplizardburst5.jpg)
I saw a graphic on some other site that said "the future of Deftones." It was a guitar with the most string I've ever seen, like 10 or 11 =P
Quote from: Teknoman on Dec 08, 2012, 04:01 AM
The real question here is, What is Stef going to do guitar-wise? I think they are going to break up when there is no more room for down tuning or maybe next album will be done entirely with bass guitars, or maybe chino will begin to use 7 strings...
but the logic says that Stef will switch to 9 string guitars
AD, ATF, WP -> 6 strings
S/T, SNW -> 7 strings
DE, KNY -> 8 strings
???, ??? -> 9 strings
and then they Break up
9 strings guitar
No... I've asked him this before a couple of years ago just kind of joking around if he was going to play a 9 and he said yeah i don't think so... 8's enough for now for sure and everything... 9 is like a joke at this point for him, which I'm fine with.. I agree... but who knows maybe within 5 years time it will be a norm... 7 strings, yet alone 8 strings, have been catching on very rapidly just within the last several years than ever before I think...
Quote from: pony_01 on Dec 02, 2012, 05:44 AM
Isn't it too early to discuss a new album??
Its out next week
im looking forward for the new album, i think it correspond very well to the early saga: A-ATF-WP
this third instalment will be great DE-KNY-?
god knows how eros could have change it all...
they should just release Eros....and move on to this new deftones style of music 8)
10 strings would be great
Hmm, maybe if chino started playing 8-strings.......we have to go deeper......or lower.
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
For the next album I want Stephen to step his game up and play more melodic stuff, LESS redundant use of power chords and experiment with eccentric chord voicings, and finally write a lengthy semi- complex solo. If Stephen wants to "Dazzle" like he said with his guitar playing, I really wish he would try to practice a little more, and close out his career as a guitarist with some awesome riffs on the last couple albums. Abe is solid, he can just keep doing what he's doing. For Chino, I want more gritty ST/ WP era vocals, with more abstract, dark lyrics like Digital Bath. Pretty much what everyone and their brother here on SL is wanting again from Chino in the vocal and lyrical department. I thought Koi No Yokan was suppose to be a "Futuristic-like" album... To me I didnt think of this album sounding anything futuristic really. On the next one, I just want them to actually accomplish something like that and experiment more with different sounds, time signatures. This is all hopeful for the next coming years ahead, however if they rush the next album like they did KNY, I don't see another album in the ranks of "White Pony" happening anytime soon or if at all.
you just summed up my feelings completely...thanks for saving me the time to write it
Quote from: jez rox kaluha on Dec 16, 2012, 12:35 AM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
For the next album I want Stephen to step his game up and play more melodic stuff, LESS redundant use of power chords and experiment with eccentric chord voicings, and finally write a lengthy semi- complex solo. If Stephen wants to "Dazzle" like he said with his guitar playing, I really wish he would try to practice a little more, and close out his career as a guitarist with some awesome riffs on the last couple albums. Abe is solid, he can just keep doing what he's doing. For Chino, I want more gritty ST/ WP era vocals, with more abstract, dark lyrics like Digital Bath. Pretty much what everyone and their brother here on SL is wanting again from Chino in the vocal and lyrical department. I thought Koi No Yokan was suppose to be a "Futuristic-like" album... To me I didnt think of this album sounding anything futuristic really. On the next one, I just want them to actually accomplish something like that and experiment more with different sounds, time signatures. This is all hopeful for the next coming years ahead, however if they rush the next album like they did KNY, I don't see another album in the ranks of "White Pony" happening anytime soon or if at all.
you just summed up my feelings completely...thanks for saving me the time to write it
for that to happend, chino needs to drop the fucking guitar, otherwise we will be getting more KNY oriented stuff. steph will always hold back, to tight the rythm section while chino takes lead. this will happen as long as chino is playing the damn guitar.
No more records. KNY is a joke. Just stop, Deftones.
Don't fucking listen to them then,the majority of people are really enjoying KNY this happens every-time a new album comes out ,they always lose some fans and gain more new ones.They're still making great music whether you like it or not if you want the old sound listen to the old albums simple as that,I can't believe people get shitty when they mix up their sound they do it all the time that's why they're still around.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 18, 2012, 12:16 AM
Don't fucking listen to them then,the majority of people are really enjoying KNY this happens every-time a new album comes out ,they always lose some fans and gain more new ones.They're still making great music whether you like it or not if you want the old sound listen to the old albums simple as that,I can't believe people get shitty when they mix up their sound they do it all the time that's why they're still around.
Every time I hear that shit I just shake my head. The mix up their sound? It has been virtually the same since s/t. It's the same boring ass shit. No matter how many strings Stef puts on his guitars, it's all the same. The same shitty, uninspired two tone chugga chugga with Chino doing some inhale cat screams to top off that shit sandwich. They don't push themselves any more. White Pony was a step in the right direction, it really was. Their next record should have been their Kid A. Instead they produced an uninspired, redundant two tone snoozefest with no highlights, no creativity, no nothing. How they could think this was a winning formula and continue on that path, nobody can understand.
Whatever it's all just opinions but if you can't see a difference in style since S/T I get why you said what you did, White Pony's my favourite album but the reason I like them is because they did the unexpected with S/T and then again with SNW instead of producing sequels,Can you seriously not hear a difference at all? the change from S/T to SNW was huge just by itself lol
Quote from: Caín on Dec 18, 2012, 10:42 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 18, 2012, 12:16 AM
Don't fucking listen to them then,the majority of people are really enjoying KNY this happens every-time a new album comes out ,they always lose some fans and gain more new ones.They're still making great music whether you like it or not if you want the old sound listen to the old albums simple as that,I can't believe people get shitty when they mix up their sound they do it all the time that's why they're still around.
Every time I hear that shit I just shake my head. The mix up their sound? It has been virtually the same since Diamond Eyes. KNY is the same boring ass shit. No matter how many strings Stef puts on his guitars, it's all the same. The same shitty, uninspired two tone chugga chugga with Chino doing some inhale cat screams to top off that shit sandwich.
Fixed that for you bro.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 18, 2012, 10:50 AM
Can you seriously not hear a difference at all? the change from S/T to SNW was huge just by itself lol
*scratches head at Cains posts* I thought the same thing
Honestly, KNY reminds me of the original demo where Chino sang instead of screamed, and the songs had more coherent lyrics and were more melodic. I wouldn't mind if they went that direction at all, back to their "real" roots that everyone seems to forget. Maybe do an unplugged set on vh1, and an album with Skrillex(j/k). Maybe that would pull the plug on these haters hanging on here clinging to life support. I wish everyone would just completely ignore them. I do. You should too.
Doesn't look like their will be a next album according to the forecast.
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Nevermind.
Beans and Cordbread had a fight Beans knocked Cornbread outta sight !
Quote from: Caín on Dec 18, 2012, 10:42 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 18, 2012, 12:16 AM
Don't fucking listen to them then,the majority of people are really enjoying KNY this happens every-time a new album comes out ,they always lose some fans and gain more new ones.They're still making great music whether you like it or not if you want the old sound listen to the old albums simple as that,I can't believe people get shitty when they mix up their sound they do it all the time that's why they're still around.
Every time I hear that shit I just shake my head. The mix up their sound? It has been virtually the same since s/t. It's the same boring ass shit. No matter how many strings Stef puts on his guitars, it's all the same. The same shitty, uninspired two tone chugga chugga with Chino doing some inhale cat screams to top off that shit sandwich. They don't push themselves any more. White Pony was a step in the right direction, it really was. Their next record should have been their Kid A. Instead they produced an uninspired, redundant two tone snoozefest with no highlights, no creativity, no nothing. How they could think this was a winning formula and continue on that path, nobody can understand.
You can decide to not like the newer songs, that's fine. But to say they haven't been different is completely incorrect, are you deaf? WP to S/T was a big change, S/T to SNW was a big change (their 2 best albums!), SNW to DE was a change, and even DE to KNY was a change... They change EVERY album, and have since the beginning! I bet if they stayed the same since WP you'd be complaining they haven't done anything different in over a decade like Disturbed/Korn/et al. Can't please some people... whatever, I say KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DEFTONES.
Cain you are a certifiable fucking retard, if you dont like deftones music anymore then keep your fingers off the damn keyboard, hell stay off sharinglungs-why be on this board at all-people like you make no sense to me. And as far as the "Tones sound-THE ONLY reason they are still around, make good music, have any fanbase at all IS becasue the experiment, create, and delve into to different musical i deas-ignorning those facts is ludacris.
if you dont like thier new stuff or ya want a rehash of Lovers, go the fuck away make a cover or just fucking die.
this a deftones board if want to be anti-deftones and anit thier music-go create a Chokinglungs or some shit
im tired of the bashing from people who are "deftones"fans but diss the band and thier music every chance they get its fucking annoying.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Dec 27, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from: Caín on Dec 18, 2012, 10:42 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 18, 2012, 12:16 AM
Don't fucking listen to them then,the majority of people are really enjoying KNY this happens every-time a new album comes out ,they always lose some fans and gain more new ones.They're still making great music whether you like it or not if you want the old sound listen to the old albums simple as that,I can't believe people get shitty when they mix up their sound they do it all the time that's why they're still around.
Every time I hear that shit I just shake my head. The mix up their sound? It has been virtually the same since s/t. It's the same boring ass shit. No matter how many strings Stef puts on his guitars, it's all the same. The same shitty, uninspired two tone chugga chugga with Chino doing some inhale cat screams to top off that shit sandwich. They don't push themselves any more. White Pony was a step in the right direction, it really was. Their next record should have been their Kid A. Instead they produced an uninspired, redundant two tone snoozefest with no highlights, no creativity, no nothing. How they could think this was a winning formula and continue on that path, nobody can understand.
You can decide to not like the newer songs, that's fine. But to say they haven't been different is completely incorrect, are you deaf? WP to S/T was a big change, S/T to SNW was a big change (their 2 best albums!), SNW to DE was a change, and even DE to KNY was a change... They change EVERY album, and have since the beginning! I bet if they stayed the same since WP you'd be complaining they haven't done anything different in over a decade like Disturbed/Korn/et al. Can't please some people... whatever, I say KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DEFTONES.
No se que decir caín.. Solo que me das Pena...
Quote from: chuckles on Dec 28, 2012, 02:34 AM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Dec 27, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from: Caín on Dec 18, 2012, 10:42 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 18, 2012, 12:16 AM
Don't fucking listen to them then,the majority of people are really enjoying KNY this happens every-time a new album comes out ,they always lose some fans and gain more new ones.They're still making great music whether you like it or not if you want the old sound listen to the old albums simple as that,I can't believe people get shitty when they mix up their sound they do it all the time that's why they're still around.
Every time I hear that shit I just shake my head. The mix up their sound? It has been virtually the same since s/t. It's the same boring ass shit. No matter how many strings Stef puts on his guitars, it's all the same. The same shitty, uninspired two tone chugga chugga with Chino doing some inhale cat screams to top off that shit sandwich. They don't push themselves any more. White Pony was a step in the right direction, it really was. Their next record should have been their Kid A. Instead they produced an uninspired, redundant two tone snoozefest with no highlights, no creativity, no nothing. How they could think this was a winning formula and continue on that path, nobody can understand.
You can decide to not like the newer songs, that's fine. But to say they haven't been different is completely incorrect, are you deaf? WP to S/T was a big change, S/T to SNW was a big change (their 2 best albums!), SNW to DE was a change, and even DE to KNY was a change... They change EVERY album, and have since the beginning! I bet if they stayed the same since WP you'd be complaining they haven't done anything different in over a decade like Disturbed/Korn/et al. Can't please some people... whatever, I say KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DEFTONES.
No se que decir caín.. Solo que me das Pena...
Speak English you retard, noone here gives a shit about your grasp of foreign languages, you must be lost, this is Sharing Lungs not Compartir los Pulmones!
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Dec 28, 2012, 12:46 AM
if you dont like thier new stuff or ya want a rehash of Lovers, go the fuck away make a cover or just fucking die.
He actually hates S/T. Don't know how...just listened to the album on vinyl and its so delicious.
hellz yeh
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 05, 2013, 08:02 PM
Quote from: chuckles on Dec 28, 2012, 02:34 AM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Dec 27, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from: Caín on Dec 18, 2012, 10:42 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 18, 2012, 12:16 AM
Don't fucking listen to them then,the majority of people are really enjoying KNY this happens every-time a new album comes out ,they always lose some fans and gain more new ones.They're still making great music whether you like it or not if you want the old sound listen to the old albums simple as that,I can't believe people get shitty when they mix up their sound they do it all the time that's why they're still around.
Every time I hear that shit I just shake my head. The mix up their sound? It has been virtually the same since s/t. It's the same boring ass shit. No matter how many strings Stef puts on his guitars, it's all the same. The same shitty, uninspired two tone chugga chugga with Chino doing some inhale cat screams to top off that shit sandwich. They don't push themselves any more. White Pony was a step in the right direction, it really was. Their next record should have been their Kid A. Instead they produced an uninspired, redundant two tone snoozefest with no highlights, no creativity, no nothing. How they could think this was a winning formula and continue on that path, nobody can understand.
You can decide to not like the newer songs, that's fine. But to say they haven't been different is completely incorrect, are you deaf? WP to S/T was a big change, S/T to SNW was a big change (their 2 best albums!), SNW to DE was a change, and even DE to KNY was a change... They change EVERY album, and have since the beginning! I bet if they stayed the same since WP you'd be complaining they haven't done anything different in over a decade like Disturbed/Korn/et al. Can't please some people... whatever, I say KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DEFTONES.
No se que decir caín.. Solo que me das Pena...
Speak English you retard, noone here gives a shit about your grasp of foreign languages, you must be lost, this is Sharing Lungs not Compartir los Pulmones!
sooo.. im lost just because I can speak another language?! damn, that was harsh... & btw dont use google translator anymore it is damaging your reputation... XD
Fuck, people here really have no clue what "keeping their sound fresh/mixing up their sound" even means.
Listen to the following records:
Radiohead - OK Computer -> Kid A
Sepultura - Arise -> Chaos A.D.
Blur - blur -> 13
Glassjaw - Everything you ever wanted to know -> Worship and Tribute
Hopesfall - The Frailty of Words -> Satellite Years
Poison the Well - Tear From the Red -> You Come Before You
Refused - Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent -> The Shape of Punk to Come
deftones - Around the Fur -> White Pony
Those are all significant leaps. Everything post White Pony was not.
I don't get how everyone else see's it except you, your the first person i've seen who doesn't see it, I know who I trust... it's so obvious I can't believe your saying there's no difference from White Pony to the heavy rawness of Self Titled (with 7string) or from that to the sweetness of SNW, alot of times I've played people both those albums and they've thought they were separate bands.
SNW to Diamonds they changed aswell with the introduction of 8 string the songs became somewhat of a combination of SNW and Self Titled with heavy chugging over the top of eerie soundscapes with simple lyrics and from Diamond Eyes to KNY is pretty big KNY is alot more intricate with more lyrics and changes instrumentally it's also alot more dynamic when it comes to a songs direction not to mention the introduction of new techniques like finger tapping or Chino stepping up his guitar game allowing for more layered guitar. I've heard some people say some stupid stuff about Deftones but I've never ever seen someone say they haven't changed their sound it's one of the traits they're famous for they can't even keep the same guitar tuning for more than one album for fuck sakes.
Quote from: Caín on Jan 07, 2013, 04:33 PM
Fuck, people here really have no clue what "keeping their sound fresh/mixing up their sound" even means.
Listen to the following records:
Radiohead - OK Computer -> Kid A
Sepultura - Arise -> Chaos A.D.
Blur - blur -> 13
Glassjaw - Everything you ever wanted to know -> Worship and Tribute
Hopesfall - The Frailty of Words -> Satellite Years
Poison the Well - Tear From the Red -> You Come Before You
Refused - Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent -> The Shape of Punk to Come
deftones - Around the Fur -> White Pony
Those are all significant leaps. Everything post White Pony was not.
You must be listening to a different band.
Quote from: Caín on Jan 07, 2013, 04:33 PM
Fuck, people here really have no clue what "keeping their sound fresh/mixing up their sound" even means.
Listen to the following records:
Radiohead - OK Computer -> Kid A
Sepultura - Arise -> Chaos A.D.
Blur - blur -> 13
Glassjaw - Everything you ever wanted to know -> Worship and Tribute
Hopesfall - The Frailty of Words -> Satellite Years
Poison the Well - Tear From the Red -> You Come Before You
Refused - Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent -> The Shape of Punk to Come
deftones - Around the Fur -> White Pony
Those are all significant leaps. Everything post White Pony was not.
A lot of these examples are bands' 2nd albums going into their 3rd. Deftones are on their 8th. If they did what you're expecting of them to do; change that drastic this late in the game, the probably would have a 10-string guitar, a didgeridoo, wind chimes, and field recordings, with chino tapdancing...they wouldn't have a fanbase and only cater to people who like weird obscure shit like that. I hear things in KNY that they haven't done before and it excites me. And as we can telll, they haven't excited you since 2002 or so...maybe stop following them?
Quote from: Caín on Jan 07, 2013, 04:33 PM
Fuck, people here really have no clue what "keeping their sound fresh/mixing up their sound" even means.
Listen to the following records:
Radiohead - OK Computer -> Kid A
Sepultura - Arise -> Chaos A.D.
Blur - blur -> 13
Glassjaw - Everything you ever wanted to know -> Worship and Tribute
Hopesfall - The Frailty of Words -> Satellite Years
Poison the Well - Tear From the Red -> You Come Before You
Refused - Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent -> The Shape of Punk to Come
deftones - Around the Fur -> White Pony
Those are all significant leaps. Everything post White Pony was not.
Gotta agree with this. Whilst the leaps are evident, they aren't as much as the albums given as examples.
Yeah they aren't always as significant but what he originally said was that there was no change at all and as someone said alot of bands have that change in sound going from 2nd to 3rd, what makes Deftones special is the fact they are at their 7th album and are still striving to mix up their sound unlike the majority of bands who take 2 or 3 albums to find a sound and then stick with it for the rest of their career until they eventually become irrelevant, I think you'd have to admit Deftones are changing something I don't see why else they've managed to stay relevant and gained new fans while all the other "nu-metal" bands have faded into obscurity,I just find it amazing how they released their first album 18 years ago and are still making great music while still retaining a unique sound and the respect of their peers.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jan 08, 2013, 10:42 AM
Yeah they aren't always as significant but what he originally said was that there was no change at all and as someone said alot of bands have that change in sound going from 2nd to 3rd, what makes Deftones special is the fact they are at their 7th album and are still striving to mix up their sound unlike the majority of bands who take 2 or 3 albums to find a sound and then stick with it for the rest of their career until they eventually become irrelevant, I think you'd have to admit Deftones are changing something I don't see why else they've managed to stay relevant and gained new fans while all the other "nu-metal" bands have faded into obscurity,I just find it amazing how they released their first album 18 years ago and are still making great music while still retaining a unique sound and the respect of their peers.
This!
There's not much of leap between Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan. They both have that "shitty" vibe going on.
Quite the contrary, my dear.
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Jan 08, 2013, 09:08 PM
There's not much of leap between Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan. They both have that "shitty" vibe going on.
hey fuckhead if you are going to talk shit about this band, then get off the board, i mean do you get off by gettin on sl , a deftones board, and talking about how shitty eveyrthing is? what it is with you people ?
if you dont like the music then get away from it.
I like pretty much every song they've ever made, except anything of DE and KNY. How is that a problem?
In my opinion DE was lacking and KNY followed suit. Y you so mad?
I'm still loving KNY. Its even made me appreciate DE more. This is the new age of deftones and I'm really enjoying it so far. They always push the boundaries and never make the same record twice. Rosemary and What Happened to You will be songs I will enjoy for the rest of my life.
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 11, 2013, 03:26 AM
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Jan 08, 2013, 09:08 PM
There's not much of leap between Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan. They both have that "shitty" vibe going on.
hey fuckhead if you are going to talk shit about this band, then get off the board, i mean do you get off by gettin on sl , a deftones board, and talking about how shitty eveyrthing is? what it is with you people ?
if you dont like the music then get away from it.
The elite are so powerful
Quote from: E-Money on Jan 15, 2013, 05:48 AM
I'm still loving KNY. Its even made me appreciate DE more. This is the new age of deftones and I'm really enjoying it so far. They always push the boundaries and never make the same record twice. Rosemary and What Happened to You will be songs I will enjoy for the rest of my life.
Yup, me too...I didn't listen to DE constantly like I do with KNY, but now I feel like I can go back to it and enjoy it. I keep finding some new layer, sound, vocal work, bass line, drum roll in KNY. I love it.
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Jan 11, 2013, 04:30 AM
I like pretty much every song they've ever made, except anything of DE and KNY. How is that a problem?
In my opinion DE was lacking and KNY followed suit. Y you so mad?
Out of curiosity what did you want DE and KNY to sound like? And don't reply something like "Not so shitty"....i'm not trying be arsey, genuinely interested here. Now i like DE but id rank it bottom but KNY is magical and would put it 3rd. I have to remind myself we're not in the 90s and early 2000s anymore and they're getting old men now.
Interludes! I'd love me some interludes.
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Jan 11, 2013, 04:30 AM
I like pretty much every song they've ever made, except anything of DE and KNY. How is that a problem?
In my opinion DE was lacking and KNY followed suit. Y you so mad?
This.
Quote from: lahemi on Mar 07, 2013, 10:20 PM
Interludes! I'd love me some interludes.
and this
As long as they dont start making dance music, it's pretty much a given that I'll enjoy their albums. DE is on the bottom of my list, I hardly listen to it anymore, but still like it. Just that it doesnt have that thing where you can listen to it endlessly for days and not get bored of it. I think they wont go back to making another WP or ST or anything even along those lines; as far as we know, they're not all getting super fucked up and going through personal problems, they've gotten a different way of making music that they find works for them, a happier outlook on things, and that's changed the way their music sounds. No more raw aggression and angst and heaviness, no more young-Chino screaming, no more pure dark-sounding, tragic-sounding sad music, even Chino's lyrics, etc. Which is a shame if you love all of that, but ppl change, and their changes seem to be pretty big. So I'll miss it, I'll always prefer those aspects, but I can also appreciate and love their newer music. They seem to be happy with the music they're making now, all of their aspects individually and as a whole band, so some ppl may dislike it, hate it, get sick of the band for it, but that's all you can ask of them. Making music they dont wanna make or are bored of to please some (but not all) fans would just cause more problems, so better they make whatever music they wanna make and let the fans' opinions be what they are.
KNY has produced some of their most memorable songs since 2003 .
"Goon Squad" ,"Rosemary" and "What Happened To You?" are up there with some of the best in their entire catalog.
IMO ;)
I hope they do a follow up album to KNY but something tells me they wont :-\
I want to hear an original acoustic track. Not one that is a re-recorded version of a song, but an all-out acoustic jam. Lets see if they have it in them! yeah! Folk DEFTONES
Quote from: Hank on Mar 08, 2013, 04:38 AM
KNY has produced some of their most memorable songs since 2003 .
"Goon Squad" ,"Rosemary" and "What Happened To You?" are up there with some of the best in their entire catalog.
IMO ;)
I hope they do a follow up album to KNY but something tells me they wont :-\
Agreed. Especially with the tracks you mentionned. To me, the Tempest-What Happened To You sequence is among their best -along with When Girls Telephone Boys-Anniversary and Combat-Rivière (Knife Party-Pink Maggit is and will remain untouchable).
And I'm pretty sure there will be at least one more record, don't worry.
for me it seems that KNY is a follow up album to DE. i believe their next album will sounds more different
@ Jerry curls : original acoustic track would be dope... I could imagine chino playing acoustic but not Stephen anytime soon in the future.
If I had to say.. They probably wont be working on any new ideas until the KNY tour is over.. Because i'm pretty sure they dont write while on the road, but I hope the album will be very heavy.. Especially if Steph is talking about getting a freakin' 9 string guitar.. Like I said before I just think he should drop his tuning on his 8 even further and not worry about a 9 string...
I'm not even sure the KNY tour has started. They only play 3 songs from the album lolz
but yeah I would think Chino would be the one to play acoustic.
Quote from: deftoner664 on Mar 10, 2013, 07:57 PM
@ Jerry curls : original acoustic track would be dope... I could imagine chino playing acoustic but not Stephen anytime soon in the future.
If I had to say.. They probably wont be working on any new ideas until the KNY tour is over.. Because i'm pretty sure they dont write while on the road, but I hope the album will be very heavy.. Especially if Steph is talking about getting a freakin' 9 string guitar.. Like I said before I just think he should drop his tuning on his 8 even further and not worry about a 9 string...
I'm pretty sure they made a lotta progress with KNY while on the DE tour, throwing ideas around and practicing and whatever, so could happen.
This whole thing about Chino preferring the soft electronic stuff now interests me I think his side projects are just like that because he already has an outlet for the heavier guitar driven stuff with Deftones so I'm not gonna asssume the next album will be like his side projects, Also I can't see them doing an acoustic song it's too dumbed down for them I mean they're amazing acoustically but writing it would be boring for them they love all their flash equipment and effects and they love experimenting with it, plus Frank would be out of it in those Hawaii videos he just hits two coconut shells together lol
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 11, 2013, 09:50 PM
plus Frank would be out of it in those Hawaii videos he just hits two coconut shells together lol
lolz!!!
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 11, 2013, 09:50 PM
Also I can't see them doing an acoustic song it's too dumbed down for them I mean they're amazing acoustically but writing it would be boring for them they love all their flash equipment and effects and they love experimenting with it, plus Frank would be out of it in those Hawaii videos he just hits two coconut shells together lol
I don't know if they would ever do an acoustic kind of song or not, but I would imagine if they did, it probably wouldn't be too boring... I think it would be different if they started from the ground up with an acoustic song instead of practically covering one of their own songs like on the Hawaii dvd, you know what I mean? And also, it could even be a song along the lines of Digital Bath or RX Queen or something, not too quiet of a song, but just played on an acoustic, which would probably be Chino and then Stef on the electric... Who knows!?
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Yeah they would nail it but I think it would be to boring for them to be interested, I know how much they love expermenting and playing round with new effects and equipment , especially Stephen I'm pretty sure he's in love with his Axe FX rig lol can't blame him those things are amazing, Also who else has a deep hatred for the people that made that Hawaii dvd? those acoustic versions were magical and then they go and switch to the live show where Chino's voice is all fucked up from being sick, Knife Party and Boys Republic were great I would bad things to get the raw acoustic footage of the other songs lol
Im still wanting a christmas album with them sat by the fire singing
Slade - Merry Christmas Everybody 1974 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxNemfdMnOU#)
Quote from: pony_01 on Mar 10, 2013, 04:14 PM
for me it seems that KNY is a follow up album to DE.
Yes precisely, those 2 albums go hand in hand.