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Title: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: III on Feb 19, 2014, 07:27 PM
Hey how many songs other than the 11 songs from the album itself were recorded for the self titled. I know they record covers and they did lovers, but is there more. They messed around a lot in the studio so im not sure.

Thanks, III
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: tarkil on Feb 20, 2014, 03:06 AM
At least Black Moon, Crenshaw's Punch (I'll Throw Rocks at You) (even though that's an old one), possibly some mystical song called XO.
Just form the back of my head, so there may be more...
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: kurtone on Feb 20, 2014, 03:40 AM
Black moon and Crenshaw were from the white pony sessions. I don't think there is anymore aside from XO
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: ignore the fashion on Feb 20, 2014, 04:33 AM
I am pretty sure Crenshaw is older than White Pony, at least the demo version.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: kurtone on Feb 20, 2014, 06:46 AM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 20, 2014, 04:33 AM
I am pretty sure Crenshaw is older than White Pony, at least the demo version.

It may be. I just remember it was on the change single I had. So I assumed it was from the pony sessions
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: cvthedrv on Feb 20, 2014, 03:56 PM
im sure that crenshaw is from the around the fur recording sessions, in the booklet of b-sides and rarities some member comment something about it.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: III on Feb 20, 2014, 08:31 PM
So they spent a year and a half on only 15 songs???

Wow that really was a bad time for them. Btw is FYIHYD from ST or SNW?
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: luisch on Feb 20, 2014, 09:11 PM
Post SNW
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: people are people on Feb 20, 2014, 09:57 PM
Crenshaw is from the atf sessions, was an out-take of the song Be Quiet and Drive.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: tarkil on Feb 21, 2014, 01:52 AM
I think it may even be older than that, but it's only been released officially with White Pony singles, not sure when it was recorded, it might be written on the Change single booklet if anyone has it around ?
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: snw9 on Feb 21, 2014, 12:27 PM
Crenshaw is indeed from ATF sessions. It was played once in 1999 San fransico. It didnt make ATF because of Be Quiet and drive (far away).

Black Moon I am not sure but could be from White Pony - Self-titled sessions. Chino did Rock Superstar in 2000 on Cypress Hill Album and said he owed B-Real a song so he quickly composed a beat and they recorded.

Just to be clear, Black moon wasn't recorded during White Pony sessions but afterwards.

From self-titled are the following:

Lovers, Sinatra, some cover of a spanish song (forgot the name sorry) and XO (unreleased and unknown).
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: slyartwork on Feb 21, 2014, 03:36 PM
Quote from: snw9 on Feb 21, 2014, 12:27 PM
cover of a spanish song.

Do you mean Sleepwalk? It's not spanish. It's a cover from a 1959 song by Johnny and Santos, an American/Italian rock n roll duo.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: Cullision on Feb 22, 2014, 01:28 AM
"Crenshaw punch or I'll throw rocks at you - call it what you like. This was the last song we recorded for the around the fur sessions." Abe. From the b-sides booklet.

Oh and black moon "This song was the very last thing recorded for the white pony sessions." Chino.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: Sushi-X on Feb 22, 2014, 02:30 AM
Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 21, 2014, 03:36 PM
Quote from: snw9 on Feb 21, 2014, 12:27 PM
cover of a spanish song.

Do you mean Sleepwalk? It's not spanish. It's a cover from a 1959 song by Johnny and Santos, an American/Italian rock n roll duo.

He must think that because the original Sleepwalk was used in the latin film La Bamba.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: kurtone on Feb 22, 2014, 03:32 AM
Quote from: Sushi-X on Feb 22, 2014, 02:30 AM
Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 21, 2014, 03:36 PM
Quote from: snw9 on Feb 21, 2014, 12:27 PM
cover of a spanish song.

Do you mean Sleepwalk? It's not spanish. It's a cover from a 1959 song by Johnny and Santos, an American/Italian rock n roll duo.

He must think that because the original Sleepwalk was used in the latin film La Bamba.

RITCHIEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: snw9 on Feb 22, 2014, 06:47 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 21, 2014, 03:36 PM
Quote from: snw9 on Feb 21, 2014, 12:27 PM
cover of a spanish song.

Do you mean Sleepwalk? It's not spanish. It's a cover from a 1959 song by Johnny and Santos, an American/Italian rock n roll duo.


Yep that is the name. Thanks for the correction, still an amazing cover though.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: III on Feb 24, 2014, 03:38 AM
Wait whats XO again? How do you know it exists if its unknown and unreleased?
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: Romain on Feb 24, 2014, 01:43 PM
If I'm correct, XO is another piano piece like FYIHYD and Chino briefly talks about it in one of those 2007 tour videos they were posting at the time.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: M1GHTY M4VS on Feb 24, 2014, 02:33 PM
Some have it as Black Moon outtake but I think it is something none of us had heard in its entire.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: Alxn on Feb 25, 2014, 08:58 PM
hey does somebody have a list of all deftones' b-sides? i googled it and all i am getting is results of "b-sides and rarities" album. someone?
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: luisch on Feb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM
Quote from: III on Feb 24, 2014, 03:38 AM
Wait whats XO again? How do you know it exists if its unknown and unreleased?

DEFTONES - Summer Tour 2007, Chapter 13 - Portland, OR (06-07-07) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D6ROEWDSQ#)
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: buddyboy101 on Feb 26, 2014, 01:34 AM
Also: http://silentuproar.com/news/4861/deftones-offer-free-goods/ (http://silentuproar.com/news/4861/deftones-offer-free-goods/)

And from deftonesworld.com:

Bloody Cape EP
06/08/2003

There will be two versions of "Bloody Cape" EP; the CD single and the maxi CD. The CD single will have this artwork, and it will include the song "Bloody Cape" and nothing else. The maxi CD will have "Bloody Cape" plus another two unreleased songs: "XO" and "Lovers".  You can buy "Bloody Cape" EP here: (still don't know which version these stores are selling out)
Link 1: http://uk.towerrecords.com/ (http://uk.towerrecords.com/)
Link 2: http://www.hmv.co.uk/ (http://www.hmv.co.uk/)
Link 3: http://www.eil.com/ (http://www.eil.com/)
Link 4: http://www.infin1.com/ (http://www.infin1.com/)


Only the CD single was released, the Maxi never was.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: Teknoman on Feb 26, 2014, 06:13 AM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Feb 26, 2014, 01:34 AM
Also: http://silentuproar.com/news/4861/deftones-offer-free-goods/ (http://silentuproar.com/news/4861/deftones-offer-free-goods/)

And from deftonesworld.com:

Bloody Cape EP
06/08/2003

There will be two versions of "Bloody Cape" EP; the CD single and the maxi CD. The CD single will have this artwork, and it will include the song "Bloody Cape" and nothing else. The maxi CD will have "Bloody Cape" plus another two unreleased songs: "XO" and "Lovers".  You can buy "Bloody Cape" EP here: (still don't know which version these stores are selling out)
Link 1: http://uk.towerrecords.com/ (http://uk.towerrecords.com/)
Link 2: http://www.hmv.co.uk/ (http://www.hmv.co.uk/)
Link 3: http://www.eil.com/ (http://www.eil.com/)
Link 4: http://www.infin1.com/ (http://www.infin1.com/)


Only the CD single was released, the Maxi never was.

I wonder if the guy that "have contacts" at WMG and who gave us the magnificent instrumentals of SNW, DE and KNY have access to that maxi single... IIRC he said that he found the instrumentals on some server at Warner maybe that unreleased maxi single is also there... that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: III on Feb 27, 2014, 11:48 PM
Who is this guy at warner? and how do i get those instrumentals....
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: III on Feb 28, 2014, 01:24 AM
THATS AWESOME!!!!!!

Wait they all have called it Kevin Sorbos. So, what if lovers was the name the label gave it to match the album. Then, because Deftones don't take shit from anyone, they changed it to self-titled. Just a thought.

III
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: Freedomsoldier17 on Feb 28, 2014, 02:44 AM
the sextape instrumental was 10/10
Title: Re: Self Ttitled Sessions?
Post by: Teknoman on Mar 01, 2014, 05:19 PM
Quote from: III on Feb 27, 2014, 11:48 PM
Who is this guy at warner? and how do i get those instrumentals....

Here (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,19601.0.html), that was an epic thread BTW