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Music => Deftones => Topic started by: fuzzylogics on Apr 22, 2016, 07:13 AM

Title: phantom bride meaning
Post by: fuzzylogics on Apr 22, 2016, 07:13 AM
finally listened to the album tonight while reading lyrics....

any thoughts on phantom bride being towards steph ?

wasting your life in a void? you create for yourself. then invite another guitarist.

just making conversation, but it fits with how steph has literally been a disconnect.



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Post by: fuzzylogics on Apr 22, 2016, 07:14 AM
re: hole in the earth, not the first time hes been open to band goings
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Post by: Freedomsoldier17 on Apr 22, 2016, 01:03 PM
hard to decide which is the better song
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Post by: cvthedrv on Apr 22, 2016, 01:20 PM
depression
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Post by: sooniletugo on Apr 22, 2016, 02:00 PM
Quote from: cvthedrv on Apr 22, 2016, 01:20 PM
depression
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Post by: jciraheta on Apr 22, 2016, 02:57 PM
curently favorite song in the album

chino always seem to speaks metaphorically , but no in this case , this song seem very straight to me , about a person who has struglled with relationhips and even wih life in geneeral

thats my interpretation tho i could be wrong, sorry for my english 
Title: Re: phantom bride meaning
Post by: sooniletugo on Apr 22, 2016, 03:57 PM
You're right. His lyrics in this song are very clear and straightforward.
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Post by: snw9 on Apr 22, 2016, 04:28 PM
Its about relationships for sure or something very abstract in his mind. He did mention his lyrics are just a reaction to what he is feeling from the song.
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Post by: lungdamage on Apr 22, 2016, 09:29 PM
I get an addiction vibe.
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Post by: sooniletugo on Apr 22, 2016, 10:28 PM
"attached to this poison" does makes me think of drug addiction. Could also just mean harbouring negative thoughts. It's safe to say it's about someone being reclusive and avoiding life, because they've been hurt and don't want that to happen again. They are wasting away in the hole they've dug themselves to escape from the outside world. Missing out on new experiences. They don't want to face themselves either, maybe using drugs to numb the pain and distract them from the shittiness. It's funny that Jerry Cantrell is on the song, cause it's similar to the lyrics of some Alice In Chains songs that deal with depression and addiction, like Down In A Hole.

Pretty sure Rubicon directly continues this 'story'. He is urging the person to trust him and come out of their shell, he will help them "face the lights" and the crowd will go wild. It's a very uplifting song. But damn the verse is badass, and such a cool ending.
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Post by: Hinojos on Apr 22, 2016, 11:42 PM
The vibe I initially got is somebody you love committing suicide, with the cause being drugs.

The first verse had me thinking of drugs (attached to this poison), but the possible connection of suicide hit me as he said "Can't rid of this thought of you rotting in this same cold space" in the second verse, this made me think of a grave. He can't rid the thought of them dying over this.

"Inside of this hole you create, you hide from yourself...attached to this poison," seems pretty straight forward to me; this person is trying to lose all sense of reality with drugs. "You spend your life trapped in this void, where you will stay always," the 'void' being the state of not being sober, where they always want to be. The next lines "To spend your life safe from emotion, this way you'll never be harmed again or confused," kinda just continues that thought. Rather than being sober and experiencing new things, they would rather be lifeless and sedated by drugs, not having to worry about everything. This even includes the earlier line "You don't feel anything out of the rain." Some people look at rain as a great thing or a sad thing, but either way this person won't feel or experience any of it...maybe not even realize it's there, because they are heavily sedated and put under.

"You waste your life relaxed in your void, where you will drain all of you," again straight forward to me; basically saying this person is ruining their own life.

The title may have nothing to do with the song, but I connected "phantom" to being a ghost, such as a dead person...and "bride" symbolized for somebody you love unconditionally, possibly literally a wife. It's a depressing thought if connected this way; your loved one throwing their life away on drugs to the point where it's too late, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Post by: Bifrost on Apr 23, 2016, 12:14 AM
Seems pretty straight forward - seems to be speaking about a girl, I assume (bride). who is dealing drug addiction and depression.
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Post by: sooniletugo on Apr 23, 2016, 01:17 AM
Dead on Hinojos. And you're totally right about the title too. What about LMIRL though? Can anyone connect that title to the song?
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Post by: chuckles on Apr 23, 2016, 02:45 AM
This song is about my ex who just gave me the boot!