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Title: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: astynk on Aug 02, 2016, 06:49 PM
In the end, we need a way to refer to them. "the 3:05 track" doesn't cut it.
Post your versions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJA0UN8-mPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJA0UN8-mPQ)
"The Vibes"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Qefe8KvAA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Qefe8KvAA)
I'd call it Greenland but since they already have a song titled after a country I'll go with Sound Of Limbo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZxfl-tfRJU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZxfl-tfRJU)
"Mirrors"
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Inkblades on Aug 02, 2016, 09:11 PM
These are my two favorite Ezrin demos besides FOD and the Xerces instrumental. I'll call them...

Siren Vow ! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAuakGTotf0#)

and...

Nokal ! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLrDhmNFaDo#)
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Dryalex12 on Aug 02, 2016, 09:24 PM
im sure you noticed, but that first video has the synth from the intro of Combat
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: snw9 on Aug 02, 2016, 10:37 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 02, 2016, 09:11 PM
These are my two favorite Ezrin demos besides FOD and the Xerces instrumental. I'll call them...

Siren Vow ! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAuakGTotf0#)

and...

Nokal ! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLrDhmNFaDo#)

Siren Vow should have made it but it reminds me of Kim Dracula
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Freedomsoldier17 on Aug 03, 2016, 03:07 AM
Untitled 1 = "Red Eyes" - It's a rock/metal song that's heavy in a way but not too in your face, kind of how it feels to be just slightly under the influence of something

Untitled 2 = "Crisis" - This song is crazy wild and has a ton going on. The soaring synth, punishing drums, and slashing riffs. Makes me think of a spaceship being attacked and it's getting shot down to some unknown planet. The ship is in "crisis"

Untitled 3 = "Sphere" - This song makes me picture going to a house party of some kind. It's not too wild or crazy, but you're talking and laughing with a lot of people and having a good time. It's something with the piano, really. Like you're "in the sphere" of whatever social things are going on.

Untitled 4 = "Hunters" - I think about the verses, and they're slow and a little menacing in a way. It makes me picture hunters in a forest going after a deer or something. But its like the 1st century and guns haven't been invented, so they have to use knives and weapons to cut down whatever they want to eat. And when the heavy, quick, chorus drops, it's when they go in for the kill.

Untitled 5 = "Cyber Dream" - This song is really techno-ey and futuristic in my opinion. Makes me think of a half robot half human dreaming of exploring some super cyperpunky version of Los Angeles or New York

Untitled 6 = "Love" - A super relaxing song, with the gentle synth, bass, and drums. Makes me think of two lovers dancing at some place. They're just so consumed and in love with one another the whole world seems to disappear for them. And when that guitar hits, one confesses his or her love for the other and they just live happily ever after.

Untitled 7 = "Sky" - Title mostly comes from the riff, how it seems to go "up", like a bird or a fighter jet soaring into the sky.

Untitled 8 = "Tedium" - Don't get a super positive feeling from this song. Makes me think of staying up long hours working on some last minute project or work or some kind and not being able to sleep because you just have to get it done. And it's tedious and tough, and you just want to give up so bad, but nope, you gotta keep working.

Untitled 9 = "Inhale/Exhale" - Title comes from how the guitar riff constantly goes back in forth real quick, like breathing as you're running for whatever reason.

Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: astynk on Aug 03, 2016, 06:21 AM
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Aug 03, 2016, 03:07 AM
Untitled 6 = "Love" - A super relaxing song, with the gentle synth, bass, and drums. Makes me think of two lovers dancing at some place. They're just so consumed and in love with one another the whole world seems to disappear for them. And when that guitar hits, one confesses his or her love for the other and they just live happily ever after.

I can't seem to see in what way Mein demo is "a relaxing song." If we're talking about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjd0bHkLvE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjd0bHkLvE) It's so full of energy, makes a nice tune to work out to or something.
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Aug 03, 2016, 01:28 PM
Quote from: astynk on Aug 03, 2016, 06:21 AM
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Aug 03, 2016, 03:07 AM
Untitled 6 = "Love" - A super relaxing song, with the gentle synth, bass, and drums. Makes me think of two lovers dancing at some place. They're just so consumed and in love with one another the whole world seems to disappear for them. And when that guitar hits, one confesses his or her love for the other and they just live happily ever after.

I can't seem to see in what way Mein demo is "a relaxing song." If we're talking about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjd0bHkLvE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjd0bHkLvE) It's so full of energy, makes a nice tune to work out to or something.

No, that's the Mein demo. Untitled 6 is Untitled 6...

You realize they already have a universally accepted naming convention, right?
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: defTHE1s on Aug 03, 2016, 09:12 PM
I was about to open a thread about Demo 15 and thoughts about it, what would it be like if it had lyrics, what song did it came later (Rats! is a good choice) and most important, what about guitar tabs to it? It's crazy as heck that guitar riff on the "verses" that seems to be just distorted harmonics but in his 7 string.
Thoughts about it?
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Aug 05, 2016, 06:51 PM
Damn. I've resisted listening to these for years because I didn't want to hear what this album could've been. I finally caved and I was right. I only listened to 3 tracks and I'm already wishing they had gone this route. Fucking FINGER OF DEATH
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Inkblades on Aug 06, 2016, 12:57 AM
Yeah, man. It's still a good album, but imagine this track listing with consistent Terry Date production. It'd be fucking amazing.

Hole in the Earth
Rapture
Beware the Water
Cherry Waves
Mein/Nokal (aka Demo #13) (Might as well combine both songs because they have similar guitar tones)
U, U, D, D, L, R, L, R, A, B, Select, Start
Xerces
Siren Vow (aka Demo #5)
Buffalo (Finger of Death)
Combat
FYIHYD (Why not include this instrumental masterpiece?)
Kimdracula
Riviere
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Lucas_Moreno on Aug 08, 2016, 12:33 PM
I didn't know about these demos, glad I found about it here, thank you!
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: astynk on Aug 08, 2016, 12:50 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 06, 2016, 12:57 AM
Yeah, man. It's still a good album, but imagine this track listing with consistent Terry Date production. It'd be fucking amazing.

Hole in the Earth
Rapture
Beware the Water
Cherry Waves
Mein/Nokal (aka Demo #13) (Might as well combine both songs because they have similar guitar tones)
U, U, D, D, L, R, L, R, A, B, Select, Start
Xerces
Siren Vow (aka Demo #5)
Buffalo (Finger of Death)
Combat
FYIHYD (Why not include this instrumental masterpiece?)
Kimdracula
Riviere

FYIHYD is awesome, but still sounds incomplete, like too simple to make it to the album.
I'd like this track listing:

The Earth (aka Kimdracula)
Combat
Saudade (aka Konami Code)
Cherry Waves
Xerces
Rapture
Beware the Water
The Vibes
Rivière

But for Tankjan's appearance, I could include Mein.
No HITE, yeah. Fuck that radio-friendly shit.

Hey, you still have my quote in your signature. I feel kinda honored.
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: defTHE1s on Aug 09, 2016, 04:54 AM
Btw, I tend to use this order just as the demos came back when they were released, and I consider the pre-snw stuff as demos (HITE Demo, Combat Demo, Mein demo.. etc), so maybe that order we could stick, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gDxqxNY2v8&list=PLBcdGuixE_naWgpma4rTaA3T46vNRs6To (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gDxqxNY2v8&list=PLBcdGuixE_naWgpma4rTaA3T46vNRs6To)
01 Deftones - Hole in the Earth (Demo) [Bob Ezrin sessions]
02 Deftones - Combat (Demo) [Bob Ezrin sessions]
03 Deftones Demo 3 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
04 Deftones - Cherry Waves (Demo) [Bob Ezrin sessions]
05 Deftones Demo 5 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
06 Deftones - Mein (Demo) [Bob Ezrin sessions]
07 Deftones Demo 7 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
08 Deftones - Finger of Death (Demo) [Bob Ezrin sessions]
09 Deftones Demo 9 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
10 Deftones Demo 10 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
11 Deftones - Pink Cellphone (Demo) [Bob Ezrin sessions]
12 Deftones Demo 12 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
13 Deftones Demo 13 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
14 Deftones Demo 14 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
15 Deftones Demo 15 [Bob Ezrin sessions]
16 Deftones - Xerces (Demo) [Bob Ezrin sessions]

So, thats the order you were considering when making those could be" titles?
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Lucas_Moreno on Aug 09, 2016, 12:34 PM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Aug 03, 2016, 09:12 PM
I was about to open a thread about Demo 15 and thoughts about it, what would it be like if it had lyrics, what song did it came later (Rats! is a good choice) and most important, what about guitar tabs to it? It's crazy as heck that guitar riff on the "verses" that seems to be just distorted harmonics but in his 7 string.
Thoughts about it?

I am fascinated by this demo. I share the same will with you
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: HooiserBowhunter on Aug 10, 2016, 03:12 AM
They probably have so much cool shit just laying around on a lap top that just slays.
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: pelican fly on Aug 12, 2016, 02:50 AM
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Aug 03, 2016, 03:07 AM
Untitled 1 = "Red Eyes" - It's a rock/metal song that's heavy in a way but not too in your face, kind of how it feels to be just slightly under the influence of something

Untitled 2 = "Crisis" - This song is crazy wild and has a ton going on. The soaring synth, punishing drums, and slashing riffs. Makes me think of a spaceship being attacked and it's getting shot down to some unknown planet. The ship is in "crisis"

Untitled 3 = "Sphere" - This song makes me picture going to a house party of some kind. It's not too wild or crazy, but you're talking and laughing with a lot of people and having a good time. It's something with the piano, really. Like you're "in the sphere" of whatever social things are going on.

Untitled 4 = "Hunters" - I think about the verses, and they're slow and a little menacing in a way. It makes me picture hunters in a forest going after a deer or something. But its like the 1st century and guns haven't been invented, so they have to use knives and weapons to cut down whatever they want to eat. And when the heavy, quick, chorus drops, it's when they go in for the kill.

Untitled 5 = "Cyber Dream" - This song is really techno-ey and futuristic in my opinion. Makes me think of a half robot half human dreaming of exploring some super cyperpunky version of Los Angeles or New York

Untitled 6 = "Love" - A super relaxing song, with the gentle synth, bass, and drums. Makes me think of two lovers dancing at some place. They're just so consumed and in love with one another the whole world seems to disappear for them. And when that guitar hits, one confesses his or her love for the other and they just live happily ever after.


nice

Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: Agameoftwo on Aug 13, 2016, 01:38 AM
Im so glad none of you are in charge of coming up with song titles to deftones albums. The Vibes? Crisis? Love? Sky? Whuuuuuuuuuut?
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: defTHE1s on Aug 16, 2016, 05:17 PM
Quote from: Agameoftwo on Aug 13, 2016, 01:38 AM
Im so glad none of you are in charge of coming up with song titles to deftones albums. The Vibes? Crisis? Love? Sky? Whuuuuuuuuuut?
Even for working titles, nothing can beat "Dwarf Dicks" and others.
Title: Re: If the unreleased SNW demos were on the album what do you think they'd be called
Post by: LG95 on Aug 16, 2016, 05:30 PM
The Vibes  ;D