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Title: Question for OG's
Post by: sharp machine on Apr 08, 2017, 02:01 PM
Been reading into the making of Saturday Night Wrist, trying to make sense of a few things, and I keep stumbling into the idea that Chino got help with writing some of the record. I found an interview with CM where he says:

"They [the Label] were over my shoulder the whole time, saying, "We want you to work with this person. We want you to work with this songwriter."

So my question to you, true scholars, has anyone ever confirmed if there was outside influence on SNW, and if so, on which songs?
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: LG95 on Apr 08, 2017, 03:14 PM
The only other people with songwriting credits on SNW are the two guest vocalists (Serj Tankian on Mein and Annie Hardy on Pink Cellphone) and one for Shaun Lopez on Mein, presumably when he was piecing it together with Chino.

The label did try to put Chino with some songwriters which he brings up around 26:40 in this interview. I think this was probably around the period where he had basically abandoned the whole project.
http://youtu.be/LFZbzO5MYJo (http://youtu.be/LFZbzO5MYJo)
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: sharp machine on Apr 09, 2017, 02:11 PM
Awesome, that clears it up for me, appreciate the it!
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: snw9 on Apr 09, 2017, 03:30 PM
I would agree with above, Shaun played a much larger role in terms of helping Chino with vocals and re-arranging the songs.
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: O on Apr 09, 2017, 07:03 PM
Yeah... basically, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Wrist#Early_writing_and_recording
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: guarnoplo on Apr 11, 2017, 02:18 AM
Quote from: O on Apr 09, 2017, 07:03 PM
Yeah... basically, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Wrist#Early_writing_and_recording

damn! now I see why SNW has more of that ambient, atmospheric vibe. It's like Chino brought those ideas from coming back and forth to work with Team Sleep. Dope
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: The Cyndicate on Apr 11, 2017, 11:59 AM
Quote from: sharp machine on Apr 08, 2017, 02:01 PM
Been reading into the making of Saturday Night Wrist, trying to make sense of a few things, and I keep stumbling into the idea that Chino got help with writing some of the record. I found an interview with CM where he says:

"They [the Label] were over my shoulder the whole time, saying, "We want you to work with this person. We want you to work with this songwriter."

So my question to you, true scholars, has anyone ever confirmed if there was outside influence on SNW, and if so, on which songs?

SNW is hardly an OG related topic, lol.
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: mrpelon94 on Apr 11, 2017, 07:36 PM
i dont understand why  people have a problem with SNW.....thats like my go to album always ...i have all the deftones album in my truck nothing else and when im undecided on what album i want to hear boom SNW...they need to play more of this album live..the only complaint is i wish pink cellphone had no vocals just the beat.
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: The Prodigy on Apr 11, 2017, 07:42 PM
It's not the worst...
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 12, 2017, 02:09 AM
One thing I remember from an old interview is that Riviere was originally supposed to be longer, but Slopez made it shorter. I always felt that song ended abruptly. Bad call, IMO. Still a great song, though.
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: Red Pill on Apr 12, 2017, 01:01 PM
Yeah the Wikipedia seems right this time!
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: snw9 on Apr 12, 2017, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 12, 2017, 02:09 AM
One thing I remember from an old interview is that Riviere was originally supposed to be longer, but Slopez made it shorter. I always felt that song ended abruptly. Bad call, IMO. Still a great song, though.

Hi, what is the source if you recall? What I remember reading on Kerrang was Bob didn't want any drums on the tracks however it was agreed they'd come in the end. It should have been longer.

SNW is one of my favourite records, I still listen to it today though some of the songs could have been fairly better or worked on more.
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Apr 17, 2017, 03:16 PM
Quote from: mrpelon94 on Apr 11, 2017, 07:36 PM
i dont understand why  people have a problem with SNW.....thats like my go to album always ...i have all the deftones album in my truck nothing else and when im undecided on what album i want to hear boom SNW...they need to play more of this album live..the only complaint is i wish pink cellphone had no vocals just the beat.

I'm alright with the vocals. Just wish that stupid part at the end wasn't there. It had the chance of being like Radiohead's Fitter Happier, but that ending ruined it.
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 17, 2017, 06:51 PM
Quote from: snw9 on Apr 12, 2017, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 12, 2017, 02:09 AM
One thing I remember from an old interview is that Riviere was originally supposed to be longer, but Slopez made it shorter. I always felt that song ended abruptly. Bad call, IMO. Still a great song, though.

Hi, what is the source if you recall? What I remember reading on Kerrang was Bob didn't want any drums on the tracks however it was agreed they'd come in the end. It should have been longer.

SNW is one of my favourite records, I still listen to it today though some of the songs could have been fairly better or worked on more.

Sorry, I don't. Such a long time ago. I think it might have actually been a Shaun interview, though.
Title: Re: Question for OG's
Post by: snw9 on Apr 18, 2017, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 17, 2017, 06:51 PM
Quote from: snw9 on Apr 12, 2017, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 12, 2017, 02:09 AM
One thing I remember from an old interview is that Riviere was originally supposed to be longer, but Slopez made it shorter. I always felt that song ended abruptly. Bad call, IMO. Still a great song, though.

Hi, what is the source if you recall? What I remember reading on Kerrang was Bob didn't want any drums on the tracks however it was agreed they'd come in the end. It should have been longer.

SNW is one of my favourite records, I still listen to it today though some of the songs could have been fairly better or worked on more.

Sorry, I don't. Such a long time ago. I think it might have actually been a Shaun interview, though.

The Shaun interview, from the pinkmaggit.fr(now defunct) mentioned all the songs were longer. Oh well SNW is what it is, my top favourites of Deftones.