Before releasing White Pony, the band wanted to have the album remixed by DJ Shadow and call it "Black Stallion". It's happening, there will be other people involved, not just Shadow.
https://loudwire.com/deftones-white-pony-new-version-black-stallion
if it's like that dubstep remix of rocket skates i'm out fam
brb making a change.org petition for a Hayley Williams remix of Passenger
Quote from: Penicks on Jun 18, 2020, 12:09 AM
if it's like that dubstep remix of rocket skates i'm out fam
LOL it's true, hope that's not the remix.
Anyway, I wish new artwork or something interesting
Quote from: Penicks on Jun 18, 2020, 12:09 AM
if it's like that dubstep remix of rocket skates i'm out fam
Ha, M83 is usually pretty good too. The Com Truise remix of Prayers/Triangles is better.
I wonder what track Shadow will be remixing.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 18, 2020, 03:55 AM
I wonder what track Shadow will be remixing.
I would hope for digital bath and korea
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 17, 2020, 11:28 PM
"Black Stallion". It's happening, there will be other people involved, not just Shadow.
https://loudwire.com/deftones-white-pony-new-version-black-stallion
Fingers crossed it's not DJ Khaled.
Would be cool to get some more remixes like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VwFKK9XhrQ
Would it be wrong of me to be more excited about this than the new album? i want to know when this thing is coming out so i can throw money at it, i remember when this was supposed to happen back when white pony first came out
Posted this on the "Album Nine" Thread but gonna post here too!
Belching Beaver is going to release 2 beers for Deftones this year. One in September for White Pony and looks like one in December for Black Stallion.
Here's the link...
https://belchingbeaver.com/Oceanside-Belching-Beaver-Landing-beer
(https://belchingbeaver.com/custom/beer/release_calendar_2020.jpg)
Yikes! Double Album coming?
I'm sure these will never happen BUT I'd like to see
Brothertiger doing something with Teenager
Chelsea Wolfe on Passenger
The Black Queen doing something with Digital Bath
I remember reading that its supposed to be people who inspired the original record, So If i was guessing
Maybe renholder? that would have something to do with tool since maynard is on white pony
Mike shinoda? This sounds almost like a reanimation type thing so im just guessing
Would not be suprised if the team sleep members remixed teenager
Wes borland maybe?
Having a hard time deciding who would have inspired the original white pony, and who would remix these songs.
I would love to see Hum cover Knife Party haha.
Quote from: Penicks on Jun 18, 2020, 12:09 AM
if it's like that dubstep remix of rocket skates i'm out fam
That remix was absolute garbage. I forgot it existed, until I saw your comment. lol
It would be great and fitting imo for FRANK Delgado to do a track of his choosing. Why not? Was the album he basically went permanent on. Don t give me rules fam
Anyways if I had to guess it will be DJs that Chino is into. Seems it goes that way most of the time. Not a bad thing maybe. The guy does know his music and I would imagine DJ C minus will be on it considering he's a friend of the band and has been hanging out as of late
Interesting....
Trust me, it isn't just DJs.
https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html
"That's incredible. Can you give any details about who might be involved with Black Stallion?
Trevor Jackson did an awesome remix. I was so stoked on it. It's almost hard to figure out what song it is. I love remixes like that, where it's a whole new take. So him, DJ Shadow, Clams Casino, people whose music I liked and I like working with."
Chino confirmed it's done and has been mastered, just waiting to get it released, this was on BBC 6 Music.
Well there's not much time between now and December. So we'll have an announcement in the next month or so.
He also said it will be exactly in the order of the original album, and that they've gotten a lot of artists to remix the songs who originally influenced them at the time of White pony. Should be a very interesting album rather than your boilerplate remix album.
Quote from: silenceomitted on Jun 18, 2020, 12:17 AM
brb making a change.org petition for a Hayley Williams remix of Passenger
No. Just no.
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Sep 23, 2020, 06:22 PM
Quote from: silenceomitted on Jun 18, 2020, 12:17 AM
brb making a change.org petition for a Hayley Williams remix of Passenger
No. Just no.
Chelsea Wolfe?
For real...I can see Beth Gibbons from Portishead doing Passenger. It'll never happen, but a man can dream.
Nice bit of info in this interview:
https://www.spin.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview/
QuoteLet's talk about the Black Stallion remix project. It's an intriguing concept — experimenting with the album 20 years later.
The record's just been mastered, and it's fucking brilliant. It could have been a little self-indulgent — it's a record based off another record that's people already like, so it would easy to fuck up. Our initial idea was to have DJ Shadow remix the whole record. He said he would love to do a song, so he did a remix of "Digital Bath." The majority of the people we reached out to came back with excitement: "Oh, I love this song. Can I do this song?" The record is sequenced exactly like White Pony, so it kind of takes you on a journey in the same way but completely flipped upside-down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuqBevz1LzM
Chino says Black Stallion might come in November. What a time to be a Deftones fan.
Shadow's a great pick for Digital Bath. I know another artist working on the project but I'm not gonna spoil it obviously, all I'm gonna say is it's very exciting.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 07:56 PM
Shadow's a great pick for Digital Bath. I know another artist working on the project but I'm not gonna spoil it obviously, all I'm gonna say is it's very exciting.
I know too and I'm trying not to lord it over people ;)
Great news about the possible November release, looking forward to hearing it
I'd love Kevin Shields to do something on this.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_LCbhMHjnKQI%2FTIj2aKUmFbI%2FAAAAAAAAAEM%2FVDOqj9v-OGg%2Fs1600%2FReanimation.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Safe to say it will also be "covers"???? Not just remixes with different music? Is it supposed to be Chino still singing over remixes?
Btw, hope Frank does a track.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 26, 2020, 10:34 PM
Safe to say it will also be "covers"???? Not just remixes with different music? Is it supposed to be Chino still singing over remixes?
My guess is it'll be a mixture.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 07:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuqBevz1LzM
Chino says Black Stallion might come in November. What a time to be a Deftones fan.
Shadow's a great pick for Digital Bath.
Has that been confirmed anywhere?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 27, 2020, 12:46 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 07:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuqBevz1LzM
Chino says Black Stallion might come in November. What a time to be a Deftones fan.
Shadow's a great pick for Digital Bath.
Has that been confirmed anywhere?
believe it was mentioned in
an interview someone may have quoted on last page?
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 07:56 PM
Chino says Black Stallion might come in November.
You know what I'm gonna say
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/29/news/chino-moreno-says-upcoming-deftones-white-pony-remix-album-black-stallion-is-not-a-contemporary-electronic-record/
Almighty OHMS is here. Can we officially move to hyping this release? Its getting more and more interesting.
Sounds like NO Back to School on Black Stallion. Most likely White Pony Deluxe release will be the original track list.
Yes, he said in an interview that they had worked with "11 people", so I think it's safe to say that nor Back to School or The Boy's Republic will be on the record.
ALSO:
Abe said that prior to the pandemic they were preparing to do a few shows playing the entire album live.
So we were or ARE going to hear Pink Maggit live.
Quote from: Moana91 on Oct 01, 2020, 01:50 AM
Yes, he said in an interview that they had worked with "11 people", so I think it's safe to say that nor Back to School or The Boy's Republic will be on the record.
ALSO:
Abe said that prior to the pandemic they were preparing to do a few shows playing the entire album live.
So we were or ARE going to hear Pink Maggit live.
Can you source that? In an ninterview I posted in the interviews thread, Abe said they briefly touched it but no more than that.
Quote from: Moana91 on Oct 01, 2020, 01:50 AM
Yes, he said in an interview that they had worked with "11 people", so I think it's safe to say that nor Back to School or The Boy's Republic will be on the record.
ALSO:
Abe said that prior to the pandemic they were preparing to do a few shows playing the entire album live.
So we were or ARE going to hear Pink Maggit live.
They used to do the intro of Pink Maggit a lot during the ATF touring cycle. They would do it before BQAD. I remember thinking how awesome it was, and I nearly shit my pants when I heard it on White Pony.
It's cool if they don't remix The Boy's Republic, but it BETTER be on the reissue.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Oct 02, 2020, 06:06 AM
Quote from: Moana91 on Oct 01, 2020, 01:50 AM
Yes, he said in an interview that they had worked with "11 people", so I think it's safe to say that nor Back to School or The Boy's Republic will be on the record.
ALSO:
Abe said that prior to the pandemic they were preparing to do a few shows playing the entire album live.
So we were or ARE going to hear Pink Maggit live.
They used to do the intro of Pink Maggit a lot during the ATF touring cycle. They would do it before BQAD. I remember thinking how awesome it was, and I nearly shit my pants when I heard it on White Pony.
Agreed. They did from the House of Fur 98 tour on, they played it at most of the shows in 1999 as well. Every time they talk about the White Pony process, they say they played "Korea" live first, before they released the album. It's not true, they never mention the "Pink Maggit" interlude, which they have played a lot more times than they have played the demo version of "Korea". It's just odd. Maybe they just forgot?
Add to that the fact they haven't played the actual "Pink Maggit" more than twice live, this song is one of the biggest mysteries ever in rock music. The fact pandemic hit as they were preparing to play the album live, including that song, almost makes you want to believe someone did it on purpose. ;D
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 06:03 AM
Quote from: Moana91 on Oct 01, 2020, 01:50 AM
Yes, he said in an interview that they had worked with "11 people", so I think it's safe to say that nor Back to School or The Boy's Republic will be on the record.
ALSO:
Abe said that prior to the pandemic they were preparing to do a few shows playing the entire album live.
So we were or ARE going to hear Pink Maggit live.
Can you source that? In an ninterview I posted in the interviews thread, Abe said they briefly touched it but no more than that.
Yes sir:
https://youtu.be/h4dx5S6aaQ4
It's the answer to the first question.
Cheers! I can't believe we were finally going to get to hear the almighty Maggit live. To be honest I don't think they'll do it next year or whenever they tour again.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 10:58 AM
Cheers! I can't believe we were finally going to get to hear the almighty Maggit live. To be honest I don't think they'll do it next year or whenever they tour again.
Monumental, I cannot wait for that. I know Chino has said in interviews he would feel a little strange doing a live stream set, but I reckon it would be cool if they did it for White Pony
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 10:58 AM
Cheers! I can't believe we were finally going to get to hear the almighty Maggit live. To be honest I don't think they'll do it next year or whenever they tour again.
Youre prob right.... may not make sense to them to do it after the 20th anniversary year. We all know theyre not touring this year. Damn
And.... Covid had to prevent good things like Deftones touring on 3 big anniversarys if u count Adrenaline being 25 in with WP and DE. Same damned year. We got an album from em at least. Glass half full
I wonder when we'll hear anything about this.
We'll have to hear about it soon if it's coming out in November.
Dang. What a year for us as in new Deftones. It really is the best thing to happen this year. Cannot wait for this project. Still enjoying the fuck outta Ohms also
There's no way this is still coming out this year.
Quote from: only pieces remain on Oct 17, 2020, 04:33 PM
There’s no way this is still coming out this year.
sure it can, we only got like 36 days notice when Ohms was officially announced, and this one is just a remix album so it might not even need that much notice(not as important, at all) lots of time to still make it out this year. i think it'll happen, but might be mid dec
Wasn't November mentioned by someone in the know? Chino? Idk
Yeah Chino mentioned November.
I'm expecting it to come out this year. The point is to commemorate twenty years of White Pony.
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 17, 2020, 10:01 PM
Yeah Chino mentioned November.
I'm expecting it to come out this year. The point is to commemorate twenty years of White Pony.
Damn right. Good point
Definitely coming out this year.
Really looking forward to this. Anticipate a release date announcement pretty soon if it's coming this year.
I'm predicting a late Nov. release.
Source: my hunch.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Oct 23, 2020, 08:41 PM
I'm predicting a late Nov. release.
Source: my hunch.
lol
I think we'll hear something once it's November. Deftones aren't really into hype that much.
Smashing Pumpkins is releasing sequels to Infinite and Machina. Other bands and artists have released sequels to their albums too - Queen, Led Zeppelin, Jay Z, etc.
What if Deftones released White Pony 2?
With Black Stallion as the remix name to White Pony it'd be obvious what the name of a remix album for White Pony 2 would be.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CG5RJJcBkOK/?igshid=1or72fb3g0wnp
Yeah!
I'll be the first to say it - two more hours, boys and girls.
IT'S COMING ;D ;D ;D
[DMX Voice] Here we go again! [/DMX Voice]
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 28, 2020, 11:08 PM
[DMX Voice] Here we go again! [/DMX Voice]
At least me and you know one person who hasn't been announced yet :-X
[DMX Voice] Defs gonna giv it to ya
they gon giv it to ya... [/DMX Voice]
dammit man, ya'll on top of shit. I came over to post the teaser coz my notifications late as hell. ;D
I saw a few mentions of Chelsea Wolfe, and I'd muuuch rather hear her do Knife Prty.
8) :-X
lol
Really curious as to what the hell this is gonna be.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR02PniKqH4cjv3BGvXcvm7RMUcsvmXWCfXaKwc6YFnmImX1FmERO1W7iC8&feature=youtu.be&v=q7vl25Shlt0
Maybe tomorrow? (Video not available yet)
Quote from: mono on Oct 29, 2020, 03:39 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR02PniKqH4cjv3BGvXcvm7RMUcsvmXWCfXaKwc6YFnmImX1FmERO1W7iC8&feature=youtu.be&v=q7vl25Shlt0
Maybe tomorrow? (Video not available yet)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
79 views on the video lol someone's vpn'd it....
Dunno if it would be considered spoiler-like so I'll say this...the artist listed as the remixer in that not-available video would be PERFECT for that track. Dude, the hype over here. Been a fan for a WHILE (though they always felt a bit too "pop" to me).
Someone else mentioned Chelsea Wolfe on Knife Prty and my God, that would be amazing. I think she could cut a haunting version of Teenager, too.
Everyone is also all about Shadow on Digital Bath...but I wanna see him on RX Queen.
Last item on the wish list.... please give us an industrial-type late 90s/early 00s sound on Elite.
Stick a VPN on to Australia, and bingo.
Really hope Ms. Wolfe pops up on this.
That song is pretty dope.. better than I was expecting!
Waiting for it to show up on KL.
It's pretty nice
It's definitely not as radical as Chino made it seem where you couldn't recognize the song, but maybe the other songs will take a different direction.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Oct 29, 2020, 06:57 PM
That song is pretty dope.. better than I was expecting!
Can't find it so I'll just ask...
Is this a reconstruction or a cover? Would love to hear Megan's voice covering this song...
https://twitter.com/deftones/status/1321874734972239872
December 11th release date
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 29, 2020, 08:03 PM
https://twitter.com/deftones/status/1321874734972239872
got it, i wonder if it'll be released on vinyl?
Yes and you'll get a nice treat once you've got to 10.
I'll let someone else post it
Take effort and do 10/10. You already know what's waiting there... :D
Quote from: sharinglungs on Oct 29, 2020, 07:46 PM
It's definitely not as radical as Chino made it seem where you couldn't recognize the song, but maybe the other songs will take a different direction.
He said that for the Trevor Jackson song:
QuoteTrevor Jackson did an awesome remix. I was so stoked on it. It's almost hard to figure out what song it is. I love remixes like that, where it's a whole new take.
Quote from: Yossarian on Oct 29, 2020, 08:28 PM
Take effort and do 10/10. You already know what's waiting there... :D
that's right, the preorders are coming!
Can finally let it out.
ROBERT SMITH.
Just got 10/10 and was very happy with the prize. Here we go again boys
Passenger is the Mike Shinoda remix.
Looking forward to the pre orders, hope I'm not waiting a month to recieve it this time
Took me forever to get that 10/10! Trick questions! ;D
Do you remember original White Pony EPK video? It weirdly fits to what world is going through in 2020.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6q6DMoMYEI
This is apparently the tracklist
01 – "Feiticeira" (Clams Casino remix)
02 – "Digital Bath" (DJ Shadow remix)
03 – "Elite" (Blanck Mass remix)
04 – "Rx Queen" (Salva remix)
05 – "Street Carp" (Phantogram remix)
06 – "Teenager" (Robert Smith remix)
07 – "Knife Prty" (Purity Ring remix)
08 – "Korea" (Trevor Jackson remix)
09 – "Passenger" (Mike Shinoda remix)
10 – "Change (In The House Of Flies)" (Tourist remix)
11 – "Pink Maggit" (Squarepusher remix)
Looks like we have a premier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ChUFzJqTM
It's really good! Much better than snippet part.
Also, Blanck Mass and Clams Casino are banger quality guarantee 8)
I was kinda hoping for Chvrches ngl, but still stoked
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 30, 2020, 12:53 AM
This is apparently the tracklist
01 – "Feiticeira" (Clams Casino remix)
02 – "Digital Bath" (DJ Shadow remix)
03 – "Elite" (Blanck Mass remix)
04 – "Rx Queen" (Salva remix)
05 – "Street Carp" (Phantogram remix)
06 – "Teenager" (Robert Smith remix)
07 – "Knife Prty" (Purity Ring remix)
08 – "Korea" (Trevor Jackson remix)
09 – "Passenger" (Mike Shinoda remix)
10 – "Change (In The House Of Flies)" (Tourist remix)
11 – "Pink Maggit" (Squarepusher remix)
Where did you find that? Looks like a decent list.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Oct 30, 2020, 02:01 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 30, 2020, 12:53 AM
This is apparently the tracklist
01 – "Feiticeira" (Clams Casino remix)
02 – "Digital Bath" (DJ Shadow remix)
03 – "Elite" (Blanck Mass remix)
04 – "Rx Queen" (Salva remix)
05 – "Street Carp" (Phantogram remix)
06 – "Teenager" (Robert Smith remix)
07 – "Knife Prty" (Purity Ring remix)
08 – "Korea" (Trevor Jackson remix)
09 – "Passenger" (Mike Shinoda remix)
10 – "Change (In The House Of Flies)" (Tourist remix)
11 – "Pink Maggit" (Squarepusher remix)
Where did you find that? Looks like a decent list.
I can see it on Apple Music UK.
Knife Party remix is pretty good. Solid start.
I'm Expecting the vinyl to have multiple editions and a high price. I can see them going all out with this
Releasing a remix album for a 20 year old album.....Might be one of the more bizarre things they have ever done.....As Eros continues to sit in vaults
shit is live! https://deftones.warnerrecords.com/white-pony.html
Ugh, why no The Boy's Republic? :(
UK guys
https://www.banquetrecords.com/deftones/white-pony-%2820th-anniversary%29/WPONY20
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 30, 2020, 01:49 PM
UK guys
https://www.banquetrecords.com/deftones/white-pony-%2820th-anniversary%29/WPONY20
Do you remember if the Ohms versions of banquet records are different of the US deftones store? I'm trying to find an european cd version (the rest will come with the super bundle, someday...)
Quote from: mono on Oct 30, 2020, 02:09 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 30, 2020, 01:49 PM
UK guys
https://www.banquetrecords.com/deftones/white-pony-%2820th-anniversary%29/WPONY20
Do you remember if the Ohms versions of banquet records are different of the US deftones store? I'm trying to find an european cd version (the rest will come with the super bundle, someday...)
Not sure, I got my gold Ohms from Crash Records and the bundle from the UK Deftones store. I've preordered the 4 LP & Art card on Black Stallion, I ain't paying £109.99 to get a book with it. Far too high price
Man that was really cool... and Robert Smith doing Teenager and Shadow doing DB... let's go!
$130 bucks and NO Boy's Republic?
Nope. No way.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Oct 30, 2020, 06:43 PM
$130 bucks and NO Boy's Republic?
What? No Back to School remix? :P
Knife Prty remix is dope.
What if Deftones took cue from Black Stallion as inspiration for the sound of their next proper LP?
No Back to School on the re-issue version either...they must really not like Back to School :P
Quote from: B_S_79 on Oct 30, 2020, 06:43 PM
$130 bucks and NO Boy's Republic?
Nope. No way.
In the future it'd be cool to see Deftones release records on HD Vinyl - https://hdvinyl.org/hd-vinyl-benefits/.
Or add laser etching - (https://coloredvinylrecords.com/pictures_blog/20181005/12-laser-etched-vinyl-1538727852.jpg)
Or holograms like on the Star Wars vinyl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0hvMq5hq-Q
Or animated vinyl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy4D9HT7npc
For collectors: according to Frank Maddocks on IG, deluxe and super deluxe versions have different vinyl sleeves.
Check comments https://www.instagram.com/p/CG-qdNdA3T8/
They're really calling it a "Deluxe Edition" and leaving out BTS and Boys Republic? What a bunch of bs... :'(
I get they don't like BTS. Fine, whatever. What's the thought process leaving TBR off, though? First of all, it's better than half the songs on the actual album.
I'm surprised people expected TBR to be on there. My guess is that part of the point of doing this is to hit home the original, intended eleven song album, rather than the reissue edition that lots of people know. I'd have been surprised if either TBR or BTS had shown up on it.
I'd just like them to put TBR as a standalone song on streaming services. Along with Lovers and Can't Even Breathe, now I think about it.
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 01, 2020, 11:14 PM
I'm surprised people expected TBR to be on there. My guess is that part of the point of doing this is to hit home the original, intended eleven song album, rather than the reissue edition that lots of people know. I'd have been surprised if either TBR or BTS had shown up on it.
I'd just like them to put TBR as a standalone song on streaming services. Along with Lovers and Can't Even Breathe, now I think about it.
I'm not so much surprised as I am disappointed.
I'd definitely settle for it being put on streaming.
I'd say we're lucky we're even getting a remix album. The bands never really gone the extra mile for anything lol
Quote from: kurtone on Nov 02, 2020, 01:53 AM
I'd say we're lucky we're even getting a remix album. The bands never really gone the extra mile for anything lol
THE BAND imo went the extra mile on bsidesnrarities..... and a very nice little package it came in TBH. Just the first thing that popped in my head naturally. It's one of my favorite batches of music they have compiled and the best jacket/booklet from them as well. I actually can't think of a whole shit ton of great bands or artists that have gone that kind of extra mile especially in between two great albums
Does anyone know anything about this '24 page book' that's included? Wonder what it is.
https://deftones.warnerrecords.com/white-pony-20th-anniversary-super-deluxe-box-set-1.html
Quote from: Martin on Nov 03, 2020, 10:09 PM
Does anyone know anything about this '24 page book' that's included?
Yes, I know something about the 24 page book. It's about the Deftones. ;)
If the Deftones were to have TBR and BTS remixed my votes would be:
1. The Boys Republic (Kevin Shields Remix).
2. Back To School (Wheezy Remix). Would be cool if the remix also had additional vocals by Roddy Ricch or Lil Uzi Vert.
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 04, 2020, 02:04 AM
Quote from: Martin on Nov 03, 2020, 10:09 PM
Does anyone know anything about this '24 page book' that's included?
Yes, I know something about the 24 page book. It's about the Deftones. ;)
If the Deftones were to have TBR and BTS remixed my votes would be:
1. The Boys Republic (Kevin Shields Remix).
2. Back To School (Wheezy Remix). Would be cool if the remix also had additional vocals by Roddy Ricch or Lil Uzi Vert.
Chino isn't really a fan of modern hip-hop so I doubt that second one would ever come to pass.
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 04, 2020, 02:04 AM
1. The Boys Republic (Kevin Shields Remix). :D YESSS!
2. Back To School (Wheezy Remix). Would be cool if the remix also had additional vocals by Roddy Ricch or Lil Uzi Vert. :P POOPOO YUCKY EW
Quote from: nicklav on Nov 04, 2020, 11:23 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 04, 2020, 02:04 AM
Quote from: Martin on Nov 03, 2020, 10:09 PM
Does anyone know anything about this '24 page book' that's included?
Yes, I know something about the 24 page book. It's about the Deftones. ;)
If the Deftones were to have TBR and BTS remixed my votes would be:
1. The Boys Republic (Kevin Shields Remix).
2. Back To School (Wheezy Remix). Would be cool if the remix also had additional vocals by Roddy Ricch or Lil Uzi Vert.
Chino isn't really a fan of modern hip-hop so I doubt that second one would ever come to pass.
What makes you think that? I'm definitely not a fan myself but I have heard Chino express that he likes all kinds of stuff pop and hip-hop of today. Nothing specific but I can't recall any time he said he doesn't like modern hip-hop. He doesn't really shit on anything
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 05, 2020, 01:07 AM
Quote from: nicklav on Nov 04, 2020, 11:23 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 04, 2020, 02:04 AM
Quote from: Martin on Nov 03, 2020, 10:09 PM
Does anyone know anything about this '24 page book' that's included?
Yes, I know something about the 24 page book. It's about the Deftones. ;)
If the Deftones were to have TBR and BTS remixed my votes would be:
1. The Boys Republic (Kevin Shields Remix).
2. Back To School (Wheezy Remix). Would be cool if the remix also had additional vocals by Roddy Ricch or Lil Uzi Vert.
Chino isn't really a fan of modern hip-hop so I doubt that second one would ever come to pass.
What makes you think that? I'm definitely not a fan myself but I have heard Chino express that he likes all kinds of stuff pop and hip-hop of today. Nothing specific but I can't recall any time he said he doesn't like modern hip-hop. He doesn't really shit on anything
In a recent interview he said he doesn't like current stuff. I'll see if I can find it.
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Does anyone know anything about this '24 page book' that's included?
Yes, I know something about the 24 page book. It's about the Deftones. ;)
If the Deftones were to have TBR and BTS remixed my votes would be:
1. The Boys Republic (Kevin Shields Remix).
2. Back To School (Wheezy Remix). Would be cool if the remix also had additional vocals by Roddy Ricch or Lil Uzi Vert.
Chino isn't really a fan of modern hip-hop so I doubt that second one would ever come to pass.
What makes you think that? I'm definitely not a fan myself but I have heard Chino express that he likes all kinds of stuff pop and hip-hop of today. Nothing specific but I can't recall any time he said he doesn't like modern hip-hop. He doesn't really shit on anything
In a recent interview he said he doesn't like current stuff. I'll see if I can find it.
No big deal, i believe ya.
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I'd say we're lucky we're even getting a remix album. The bands never really gone the extra mile for anything lol
THE BAND imo went the extra mile on bsidesnrarities..... and a very nice little package it came in TBH. Just the first thing that popped in my head naturally. It's one of my favorite batches of music they have compiled and the best jacket/booklet from them as well. I actually can't think of a whole shit ton of great bands or artists that have gone that kind of extra mile especially in between two great albums
That's b/c Rhino Records released B-Sides & Rarities. It's a subsidiary of WMG, but more more boutique than factory.
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I'd say we're lucky we're even getting a remix album. The bands never really gone the extra mile for anything lol
THE BAND imo went the extra mile on bsidesnrarities..... and a very nice little package it came in TBH. Just the first thing that popped in my head naturally. It's one of my favorite batches of music they have compiled and the best jacket/booklet from them as well. I actually can't think of a whole shit ton of great bands or artists that have gone that kind of extra mile especially in between two great albums
That's b/c Rhino Records released B-Sides & Rarities. It's a subsidiary of WMG, but more more boutique than factory.
That's interesting
New song from black stallion premiering Friday night at 9;12 pm Pst
Adult Swim Festival 2020 info here.
https://www.adultswim.com/presents/festival/info.html
Upcoming stream here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPoZKebnsI
New song out? Just got a notification from itunes but can't download it right now
Quote from: punkflop01 on Nov 12, 2020, 09:12 PM
New song out? Just got a notification from itunes but can't download it right now
The Passenger remix is out at midnight.
Transcribed his verse:
'Yo, being a passenger isnt always easy.... the outside is freezing.... lately my minds been bleeding... so i keep reading.. writing my ryhmes...just looking... looking for a sign... to keep my heart beating... my hand on the window ..lungs full of endo - you look at me, yo, i look back at you, i know ya...you know me too /whispers ... mike shinoda
I'm not sure if i typed it correctly.
Quote from: lungdamage on Nov 12, 2020, 09:58 PM
Transcribed his verse:
'Yo, being a passenger isnt always easy....
LMAO oh no, how embarrassing.
I just want to hear Squarepushers remix of pink maggit so badly :)
Also Inkblades your inbox is full
Wait, that verse is a pisstake, yeah? I laughed out loud at that, lungdamage.
'Mike we need you to come in and overdub some '...AND YO's', there's a car coming to pick you up and take you the airport, you have to be at the studio this evening...OR WE ARE FUCKED'.
ps - Everyone don't worry Shinoda doesn't rap on it. Imagine how tilting that would have been. Having said that, I listened to it the first time in state of fear for most the song.
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 12, 2020, 11:04 PM
Wait, that verse is a pisstake, yeah? I laughed out loud at that, lungdamage.
Yeah I just wrote the first thing that came into my head. ' There wasn't enough 'and yo's for it to be a true Shinoda verse... I didn't want anyone to flip out. I replaced a line that had 'in the end tho' with the endo one to make it seem like it was bullshit. To not freak everyone out hah
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Wait, that verse is a pisstake, yeah? I laughed out loud at that, lungdamage.
Yeah I just wrote the first thing that came into my head. ' There wasn't enough 'and yo's for it to be a true Shindo verse... I didn't want anyone to flip out. I replaced a line that had 'in the end tho' with the endo one to make it seem like it was bullshit. To not freak everyone out hah
Haha I thought that was the case but then Inkblades responded and I briefly thought he might've done that...
I tried to inbox him to say i was joking straight away... but it was full :) /shakes head
A facebook group got a second whole verse too :) I told them I was just joking after people got worried.
Having said that.... I think someone else should have done this track. Just my opinion.
I'm really looking forward to the rest of the remixes though.
That remix is pretty good tbh
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2020, 11:52 PM
That remix is pretty good tbh
It sounded great in the preview trailer the other week.
I'm very surprised, I was let down by Knife Party. This is pretty damn great.
If you pay attention you can spot a couple of vocal stems not present in the original version of Passenger. Definitely Chino from then though.
They're making me wait for that Robert Smith one.
Oh boy..... :-\
I like the knife prty RMX better. I wish they got M83 on this remix album. That M83 remix of Rocket Skates was SO GOOD.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2020, 11:56 PM
I'm very surprised, I was let down by Knife Party. This is pretty damn great.
If you pay attention you can spot a couple of vocal stems not present in the original version of Passenger. Definitely Chino from then though.
Interesting. @Ves I think we will get a bit more of that throughout - as everyone involved would have all been sent all the stems and all extra material from the recording session for each track to remix with. Should be great stuff on it. Gun to my head, these are my two least favourite songs off WP - even though I love the whole thing. Should be interesting to see what different artists do with the rest of it.
I'll give it a few more listens.... Like i said i was in fear mode... hoping for no shinoda verse :)
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I just want to hear Squarepushers remix of pink maggit so badly :)
Also Inkblades your inbox is full
Roger, cleared.
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I just want to hear Squarepushers remix of pink maggit so badly :)
;D
Leak rules for Ohms are an obvious understatement here.
No leaks allowed. No links to leaks. No PM requests for leaks. Fail to respect those rules and see how you deal with a ban.
You want the stuff? Of course you do. You love the band? Of course you do. In just two easy clicks, you can listen to it and give them some money all the while: stream it on their official socials or buy the release from affiliated sellers.
Thank you.
That remix was pretty damn good, i'm excited for Black Stallion now... can't wait to hear the rest of the remixes.
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I just want to hear Squarepushers remix of pink maggit so badly :)
;D
I honestly have no Idea how he will interpret that track. Squarepusher is an absolute madman at times.
I'd imagine he'd reign it in a bit. Not go FULL Squarepusher, if you know what I mean. haha.
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I'd imagine he'd reign it in a bit. Not go FULL Squarepusher, if you know what I mean. haha.
Push back the square.
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I just want to hear Squarepushers remix of pink maggit so badly :)
;D
I honestly have no Idea how he will interpret that track. Squarepusher is an absolute madman at times.
I'd imagine he'd reign it in a bit. Not go FULL Squarepusher, if you know what I mean :). I would have given him another song. In fact, they probably gave a few tracks each within reason, especially at the beginning. Like DJ shadow and the guy that's doing elite etc. I mean Robert Smith's version of teenager should sound great. You just can't really give him Korea or something you know what I mean? :D
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I'd imagine he'd reign it in a bit. Not go FULL Squarepusher, if you know what I mean. haha.
Push back the square.
/nods in approval - well played
Just heard the Passenger remix. I like that Stef's guitar was actually incorporated towards the end of the song - was worried his stuff would essentially be erased on the remixes.
In any case, kudos for Squarepusher for taking on the challenge. Pink Maggit has reigned supreme for me for over a decade.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 13, 2020, 02:37 AM
In any case, kudos for Squarepusher for taking on the challenge. Pink Maggit has reigned supreme for me for over a decade.
Can't wait to hear what he does with it too.
sounds like something exectives would choose to put as background music for the trailer of their new video game
Yeah not a fan of this one.
Had an email from Banquet Records to say my pre order has been updated and the new despatch time is April 2021 for the vinyl? Can't remember if I did not notice that at the time of ordering or not?
The Shinoda Passenger remix is decent, but I'm not really sure if the music blends well with Chino and Maynard's vocals. I'd be interested to hear it as an instrumental.
My main problem is I think it takes away from the natural power of the chorus.
I would strongly advice to reconsider expectations when going into Black Stallion. They're definitely trying to put out something that sounds modern and interesting, they're not just trying to please the WP faithfuls.
As a matter of fact, I love the remix that Mike Shinoda made of Enjoy The Silence, but I'd be damned if it sounds close to the original, I think it's much different.
I am however pretty hyped to hear what DJ Shadow did on Digital Bath. I'm biased with Endtroducing so I should revise my own expectations as well, but you know... very curious at least.
I don't really have any expectations for this project (well, except for The Boy's Republic being on the re-release lol, we can scratch that one), not in the way I would have expectations for a normal Deftones album. That's because it's just a remix album. I'm curious about some of them, particularly Clams Casino, Shadow, Phantogram, Robert Smith and Squarepusher, but if none live up to the originals, no problem. We'll always have the originals.
Happy, Chino? No expectations whatsoever!
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Pink Maggit has reigned supreme for me for over a decade.
This may be the worst kept secret in Sharing Lungs history 😆
Trying to get excited about Black Stallion but struggling a bit...
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This may be the worst kept secret in Sharing Lungs history 😆
Sorry :'(
I think I am mostly excited to hear Robert Smith if I had to be excited about it. It's kind of cool to hear someone remix a track by someone who literally worships the ground they walk on. Plus teenager to me is a very "Cure-like" song so I can totally picture Robert Smith doing it and I'm really wondering what the music is going to sound like behind him. Anybody know who produced Robert's teenager besides his parents?
Yeah ive been a Cure fan my entire life thanks to my mom and nanny growing up. That's one thing I got lucky with in life was the music I was constantly exposed to whether I knew it at the time or not if it was for me. It's weird that I kind of hid the whole I love The Cure thing until I was late in high school. My environment away from home wasn't very The Cure friendly. Great fucking frontman
Quote from: Penicks on Nov 13, 2020, 12:32 PM
sounds like something exectives would choose to put as background music for the trailer of their new video game
super smashed bros melee
(https://i.imgur.com/3jW4bg3.jpg)
What a shock. Mike Shinoda did something that sucks
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 13, 2020, 10:26 PM
I would strongly advice to reconsider expectations when going into Black Stallion. They're definitely trying to put out something that sounds modern and interesting, they're not just trying to please the WP faithfuls.
As a matter of fact, I love the remix that Mike Shinoda made of Enjoy The Silence, but I'd be damned if it sounds close to the original, I think it's much different.
I am however pretty hyped to hear what DJ Shadow did on Digital Bath. I'm biased with Endtroducing so I should revise my own expectations as well, but you know... very curious at least.
Very wise words curbing your own expectation regarding DJ Shadow haha - I think as a whole it will be a pretty cool record as one package.
Happy, Chino? No expectations whatsoever!
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HAHA
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What a shock. Mike Shinoda did something that sucks
Stop. spat out my coffee. shit. ha
Excited to hear the rest of the remixes. That said I feel that Black Stallion might not be as a cohesive remix album with so many people involved doing remixes compared to Remanufacture – Cloning Technology remix of Fear Factory's Demanufacture which was mostly remixed by Rhys Fulber.
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sounds like something exectives would choose to put as background music for the trailer of their new video game
super smashed bros melee
(https://i.imgur.com/3jW4bg3.jpg)
WALDROCK!!!
I know someone who has an advance copy. They say it's fucking amazing.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 21, 2020, 06:51 PM
I know someone who has an advance copy. They say it's fucking amazing.
Did they say they were "surprised"? Like, something unexpected?
That's all they said
I think this remix album is going to be better than most could have predicted... there will always be haters though, but so far I've liked the 2 remixes so far.
I just have this feeling the Robert Smith remix will be my favorite track.
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I just have this feeling the Robert Smith remix will be my favorite track.
Almost as excited as ive ever been about anything for this! Wish i didnt have expectation for it though.
I just cannot believe he became part of this project. I know him and the guys are friendly but Robert Smith doesn't collaberate with just anyone. I would say of all the projects hes worked on, Deftones has to be the most outside of what hes done IMO. He must be fond of their work.
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I just have this feeling the Robert Smith remix will be my favorite track.
Almost as excited as ive ever been about anything for this! Wish i didnt have expectation for it though.
I just cannot believe he became part of this project. I know him and the guys are friendly but Robert Smith doesn't collaberate with just anyone. I would say of all the projects hes worked on, Deftones has to be the most outside of what hes done IMO. He must be fond of their work.
He's obviously a fan as he invited the band to play the 2018 Meltdown festival in London that he curated (which they did) so it's a reciprocal thing which is really nice.
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I think this remix album is going to be better than most could have predicted... there will always be haters though, but so far I've liked the 2 remixes so far.
Man I hope you are right, not as optimistic as you are but we shall see soon!
Change leaked
https://youtu.be/13wwndvI1K4
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Change leaked
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Change leaked
https://youtu.be/13wwndvI1K4
So did an early version of the BQAD Remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJYvHW56A3Y
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 21, 2020, 06:51 PM
I know someone who has an advance copy. They say it's fucking amazing.
I've also heard this.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 21, 2020, 06:51 PM
I know someone who has an advance copy. They say it's fucking amazing.
I've also heard this.
They must have released their weakest thus far then. Fingers crossed
I caved.
I bought the Revolver Mag bundle. ::)
https://youtu.be/mTxKkYDw704
Deftones - Teenager (Robert Smith Remix)
That was such a minimalistic remix, it was great.
Found that a bit underwhelming
Initially, I found it "simple". Maybe it will grow with a few more listens
Actually I wouldn't even call it a remix.
Honestly love that. Really added something to the feel of the track. Feels bigger, more otherworldly, stranger. Yeah it's a fairly simple reworking but I think it changes the tone of the song enough to work. It's a hard song to remix.
Was pretty good.
I like the piano. I'll have to really listen up to hear Robert Smith's vocals.
That piano is a wonderful addition.
What I've heard so far, these remixes, like most remixes, have been pretty lackluster and pointless. Would've preferred a tribute album to the band (even if it were just WP) with a diverse set of artists providing their takes. Imagine The Cure covering one of their songs.
has anybody who pre-ordered received a download link for the teenager remix
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has anybody who pre-ordered received a download link for the teenager remix
I did 2 hours ago.
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What I've heard so far, these remixes, like most remixes, have been pretty lackluster and pointless. Would've preferred a tribute album to the band (even if it were just WP) with a diverse set of artists providing their takes. Imagine The Cure covering one of their songs.
i agree. it's cool that they're doing this, but it's not exciting or anything. just a simple remix album. i don't even think about this release hardly at all. i doubt i'll even buy it this month. gotta spend my money on presents for my 5 year old girl this month. black stallion will be on the backburner though, but no hurry (Ohms was the big exciting release)
some names i'd like to hear cover them in a tribute album. the cure, rob zombie, marilyn manson, megadeth, nin, smashing pumpkins, faith no more, korn, color film, a perfect circle, depeche mode, weezer, ice nine kills, ghost, cky, etc
Prefer a remix album tbh.
Genuinely think the Teenager remix might be better than the original. The vocals are more intimate in the mix, the piano is a great additional layer to the song, and there's more atmosphere added which makes it feel spacier.
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Prefer a remix album tbh.
Genuinely think the Teenager remix might be better than the original. The vocals are more intimate in the mix, the piano is a great additional layer to the song, and there's more atmosphere added which makes it feel spacier.
I like it better than the original also but the "Idiot" version is pretty great too. Feel like there is 4 versions now? Am i thinking of a live or acoustic version ive forgotten about as the fourth one?
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Would've preferred a tribute album to the band (even if it were just WP) with a diverse set of artists providing their takes. Imagine The Cure covering one of their songs.
Would prefer Deftones release a new single or multiple new singles via streaming vs. hearing a tribute album.
At least a single song where Abe uses double bass drums. In typical Deftones loud/quiet dynamics where the double bass comes in for the loud part, of course with Chino screams. The song doesn't even have to be fast or complex. Just heavy.
Deftones are kind of an old school band though. They seem more interested releasing a whole album of songs rather than release a 1 digital single between albums like other types of modern artists or bands from different genres would. :'(
Be cool if Deftones released like 4 or 5 songs at different times via streaming then released a physical EP later on with all of the songs.
Apparently the Squarepusher remix of Pink Maggit is ten minutes long.
I don't mean to go against the grain although it seems like I usually do that. It's just my favorite remix so far. I can't believe the backlash.
There's gotta be something to this instant-gratification era we're living. It's a very subtle remix and an excellent one imo. Chino's unfiltered vocals are the cherry on top.
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 05, 2020, 02:23 AM
I don't mean to go against the grain although it seems like I usually do that. It's just my favorite remix so far. I can't believe the backlash.
There's gotta be something to this instant-gratification era we're living. It's a very subtle remix and an excellent one imo. Chino's unfiltered vocals are the cherry on top.
Yep, I like it. No complaint from me!
Eh
more of a stripped down version really, still happy it and the rest of the album exists. Won't complain about something that I neither I hate nor love. It's not going to be my favorite I guess... Ok DJ Shadow, you're up. Let's see what you can do...
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Dec 03, 2020, 10:23 AM
https://youtu.be/mTxKkYDw704
Deftones - Teenager (Robert Smith Remix)
It's good. Would've sounded really cool with a really slow modulated sub-bass too like you hear in Rap.
9/10 in Metal Hammer
https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/deftones-black-stallion-album-review
4/5 in NME:
https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/deftones-black-stallion-review-white-pony-remix-2835037
I hope this album is available tomorrow...
Quote from: sharinglungs on Dec 09, 2020, 09:25 PM
I hope this album is available tomorrow...
I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
It will be.
Quote from: LG95 on Dec 09, 2020, 10:59 PM
It will be.
Well it's less than 24 hours until it's officially released in New Zealand, so...
At least that one won't leak before an official release! Hopefully
anybody get their preorders delivered yet?..... I got a tracking number but cant locates the package?....maaan some of us are probably gonna get it late ha ......
I caved, and went for the special edition bundle. Now to wait until somewhere next year for it to arrive, something cool to look forward to.
Quote from: Martin on Dec 10, 2020, 11:15 AM
I caved, and went for the special edition bundle. Now to wait until somewhere next year for it to arrive, something cool to look forward to.
Tell me about it. I got the Revolver one.
Please send me a private message with the link to the leak of the new Deftones remix album.
I don't need it. Obviously.
the street carp and change remixes are alright
Just listened to the 'original' version of Pink Maggit and that spoken word sample is there when the opening guitar part returns at the 5:50 mark.
no crazyness this time
Seems to me Pony on this release is the version from the studio collection, not the OG.
Has WP been remastered for this release or is it a straight up reissue?
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 10, 2020, 05:04 PM
Seems to me Pony on this release is the version from the studio collection, not the OG.
Yes, the ending of passenger is the studio collection one
Quote from: imbrie on Dec 10, 2020, 05:25 PM
Has WP been remastered for this release or is it a straight up reissue?
Both? I mean, the albums in the Studio Collection are all, if my ears aren't playing tricks on me, pitched up by a tiny bit. A few songs have added details too.
For White Pony, Street Carp has added vocals on the ending fade out, Passenger has added vocals on the very last section, and Pink Maggit has an added monologue at the end. I'm not sure there's any other differences.
So it's not anything new, but it's not exactly the release from 2000 either.
Was expecting more of the Korea remix, it can be literally any song
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Quote from: imbrie on Dec 10, 2020, 05:25 PM
Has WP been remastered for this release or is it a straight up reissue?
Both? I mean, the albums in the Studio Collection are all, if my ears aren't playing tricks on me, pitched up by a tiny bit. A few songs have added details too.
For White Pony, Street Carp has added vocals on the ending fade out, Passenger has added vocals on the very last section, and Pink Maggit has an added monologue at the end. I'm not sure there's any other differences.
So it's not anything new, but it's not exactly the release from 2000 either.
That's interesting - thanks for illuminating me as I haven't listened to the Studio Collection so had no idea at all that there were some differences.
I've only had a very quick listen to Black Stallion and the track that stood out most to me was Phantogram's take on Street Carp. Definitely a track I'll return to - like the way they've turned the song into something else while remaining obviously Street Carp. If you know what I mean.
Generally, it's an interesting concept and certainly holds curiosity value but not sure how much I'll revisit in the future with the exception of Street Carp.
ELITE
Change remix video tonight. It will have some unseen footage from the original video.
oh maaan heard it, I loved all the remixes, its awesome to hear the songs in a different light, ...street carp by Phantogram is a banger👍🏽
Quote from: mrpelon94 on Dec 11, 2020, 01:59 AM
oh maaan heard it, I loved all the remixes, its awesome to hear the songs in a different light, ...street carp by Phantogram is a banger👍🏽
I'm looking forward to the Phantogram remix, street carp is an underrated deftones song.
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
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Quote from: Martin on Dec 10, 2020, 11:15 AM
I caved, and went for the special edition bundle. Now to wait until somewhere next year for it to arrive, something cool to look forward to.
Tell me about it. I got the Revolver one.
Ow man, thought about that too. It's a huge one. And probably completely and utterly worth every cent.
*woops...I spend so little time on this board these days, I accidentally edited your message instead of quoting it first time around haha :o
.....so.... Ohms, huh?
I absolutely loved the Knife Prty remix, one of the reasons being the fact it sounds like an actual, original song and I'd totally believe it wasn't a remix if I didn't know the original beforehand. I suppose the same could be said about Teenager, but this one doesn't really sounds as interesting as the former.
Now hearing the whole thing I see those certainly raised my expectations a little too high with the fact I was expecting them all to sound like, you know, actual songs. And I don't mean original songs either.
Feiticeira sounds like an intro. Not an intro song, like the famous one by The XX, but just a music-less intro. Speaking of The XX's Intro, I believe Change is certainly the one that deserves that comparison - it's either Intro or that one song that plays before YouTube video launches. Elite was..... Nintendo-ish, and with all due respect to my favorite band, are you sure that was a Korea remix, and not just a random beat idea that got sent by mistake?
Most of the others either sounded like those glitch hop interludes in the Team Sleep record at best (see Rx Queen), or just super forgettably meh at worst. Speaking of glitch hop, let's talk about Pink Maggit, as it was basically that but without the "hop", just glitch. Then it became just the normal song before turning into a Diamond Eyes/Koi No Yokan era breakdown, and that was, surprisingly, one of the most interesting moments on the record.
I'd probably need to listen to it again before giving this an actual rating, but honestly I don't think I will.
I really like Change. It's even better with the video, it's like a look back on something you know well with a different perspective.
Initial track by track thoughts.
I kinda like the way Feiticeira is completely gutted out and acts like an intro track to the album.
Digital Bath I think is a bit weak. Chino's vocal performance is so fucking good and it's so intimate in the mix that I don't hate it, but the rest of it doesn't really create any emotion for me.
Elite is very Blanck Mass. If I didn't know who was doing that mix I'd have been able to guess within four seconds. I get why people might hate it.
RX Queen is super trippy and ominous and complements the original really well, I think.
Street Carp is my favourite reimagining on here. Changes the primary emotion of the song - I'd never have imagined it could sound romantic - and nails it.
Teenager is obviously the least drastic but the piano feels like it belongs on there to the extent that I think I prefer it to the original.
Knife Party's fine. I don't have much to say about it.
I really dig the vibe of Korea and I like that it utilises the vocals as an instrument. It's pushing the boundary of what can really be considered a remix though. More like a vague tribute to the vibe of WP.
Passenger - I don't mind it up until the chorus which ruins it for me; it occupies too much of the same space of Maynard's vocals and so loses the power.
Change - Really neat job. Pretty and ethereal.
Pink Maggit - Hated it on first listen. Did a 180 on second listen. So trippy and off kilter and somehow it's clicking with me. Makes good use of Abe. And I like that it brings in the original intro at the end, more or less untouched.
RX Queen-Street Carp-Teenager is the high point on it for me right now. Feiticeira and Korea are complete guttings that I still dig, and I like Change and Pink Maggit. I'm pleased I enjoy that much from it. It's getting a lot of hate already but I much prefer this to a bunch of bands doing covers.
A mixed bag. Squarepusher was the one I anticipated, and I knew it'd be the best.
Somehow they've managed to make Feiticieria, Digital Bath and Korea, my favourite 3 tracks, dull as fuck.
Feiticeira - Vanished. The fuck is this?
Digital Bath - I never rated Shadow and I don't rate the Hello fellow kids beats here. How the fuck do you not emphasise Abe out of all instruments when you get given DB? Should have been Squarepusher.
Elite - Musically interesting at least but the vox mix ruins it.
RX Queen - It's nice that they went breakcore but it's a bit too fucking arrhythmical considering it still generally tries to follow the song's framework otherwise. This could have been handled better.
Street Carp - Has become one of the better tracks on White Pony for the only time ever.
Teenager - Nice, but the least transformed.
Knife Prty - Some more young kids shit.
Korea - Just dull. Which is such an achievement for Korea, in a way.
Passenger - It's actually alright until the LP guitars in the chorus.
Change - Kind of nice, but simplistic.
Pink Maggit - What a surprise, the best guest musician and most technical, understands the task at hand better than anyone else and makes a track that sounds unmistakenly like the original and yet a new track at the same time. Reprograms Abe's drumming with nuance instead of slapping in a load of sounds that don't belong. Ends the record with respect for the original with a mostly unedited sequence. Actually emphasised the metal from a metal record, instead of adding fucking trap hats behind everything and making it sound like shade montages from Ru Paul's Drag Race.
Mixed feelings about this to be honest, some ok tracks, some really passable
Quote from: SMLiberator on Dec 11, 2020, 03:23 PM
I absolutely loved the Knife Prty remix, one of the reasons being the fact it sounds like an actual, original song and I'd totally believe it wasn't a remix if I didn't know the original beforehand. I suppose the same could be said about Teenager, but this one doesn't really sounds as interesting as the former.
Now hearing the whole thing I see those certainly raised my expectations a little too high with the fact I was expecting them all to sound like, you know, actual songs. And I don't mean original songs either.
Feiticeira sounds like an intro. Not an intro song, like the famous one by The XX, but just a music-less intro. Speaking of The XX's Intro, I believe Change is certainly the one that deserves that comparison - it's either Intro or that one song that plays before YouTube video launches. Elite was..... Nintendo-ish, and with all due respect to my favorite band, are you sure that was a Korea remix, and not just a random beat idea that got sent by mistake?
Most of the others either sounded like those glitch hop interludes in the Team Sleep record at best (see Rx Queen), or just super forgettably meh at worst. Speaking of glitch hop, let's talk about Pink Maggit, as it was basically that but without the "hop", just glitch. Then it became just the normal song before turning into a Diamond Eyes/Koi No Yokan era breakdown, and that was, surprisingly, one of the most interesting moments on the record.
I'd probably need to listen to it again before giving this an actual rating, but honestly I don't think I will.
yea, the whole thing is pretty meh. but i wasn't excited for it anyway, when it leaked, i downloaded it, listened to track 1 and easily went to sleep(had it been ohms i'd have been too excited to hear it all to sleep, or i'd have struggled to sleep at least), then listened to a few more songs before work, more mehhh, then after i got home listened to the rest. it's ok, but that's about it, just a simple remix album, but the problem i have is almost no guitars. and a lot of dup step glitchy sounds. i dunno, i'll buy it someday, but not really even thinking about it much. cool that they finally did make black stallion after 20 years though. i'm wondering if it'll hit the top 50 billboard charts, probably not, cause a diehard like myself isn't even buying it week/month 1
Had low, if you even want to call them low, expectations for this and I'm glad I did. Listened to it once last night and probably won't again. I LOL'd at elite, sounds like video game boss fight music from metal gear rising.
I can't imagine the reactions had they released this and pushed ohms back to next year.
Man, what happened to DJ Shadow? Endtroducing... is to this day one of the best albums I've ever heard but this Digital Bath remix is not hitting for me. The fall off has been hard.
The Change remix is so dope.
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
Frank , Shinoda , and Crook ... could have been dope. What a let down.
Quote from: Inkblades on Dec 11, 2020, 08:36 PM
Man, what happened to DJ Shadow? Endtroducing... is to this day one of the best albums I've ever heard but this Digital Bath remix is not hitting for me. The fall off has been hard.
It absolutely breaks my heart man. Introducing he's up there with white pony for me. Everything he has done over the last 20 years has just been a major let down.
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 11, 2020, 03:39 PM
I really like Change. It's even better with the video, it's like a look back on something you know well with a different perspective.
the only thing good about the stallion is that the remix video for change is actually better than the album version video
Hot garbage
You wait 20 years for something and then this shows up...it had so much potential but let down by overinterpretation of the songs.
I agree with all that's been said above.
The one major highlight that's had me smiling is the video for change and that remix which did feel like re-experiencing something magical
Quote from: aj on Dec 11, 2020, 09:42 PM
You wait 20 years for something and then this shows up...it had so much potential but let down by overinterpretation of the songs.
I agree with all that's been said above.
The one major highlight that's had me smiling is the video for change and that remix which did feel like re-experiencing something magical
yea that video is great, all the unseen footage from back then, easily the best thing to come of this.
Quote from: from_musings on Dec 11, 2020, 09:26 PM
Hot garbage
pretty much, lol
Quote from: Inkblades on Dec 11, 2020, 08:36 PM
Man, what happened to DJ Shadow? Endtroducing... is to this day one of the best albums I've ever heard but this Digital Bath remix is not hitting for me. The fall off has been hard.
Totally agree
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
I would dig that
I'd love to hear more remixes from the likes of Trent Reznor, Oneohtrix Point Never, or Aphex Twin. It would even be cool if they gave fans the stems so people could upload their own remixes. I think NIN did that.
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 09:16 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 11, 2020, 03:39 PM
I really like Change. It's even better with the video, it's like a look back on something you know well with a different perspective.
the only thing good about the stallion is that the remix video for change is actually better than the album version video
If by better you mean it works better for the song it accompanies, I agree. It's a great fit, much like Digital Bath imo.
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
OR maybe they could rack up 'rainbow shetland clydesdale' and just get dj premier to remix the album east coast hiphop style. Get rappers from that era on some tracks some NaS, Tech you name it :) a few guru samples for good measure ;)
I do like your idea regarding frank but i think he's too close to the material after all these years.
The feiticeira take is fantastic. Wtf
Any photos of the black stallion digipack interior?
Quote from: lungdamage on Dec 12, 2020, 09:09 AM
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
OR maybe they could rack up 'rainbow shetland clydesdale' and just get dj premier to remix the album east coast hiphop style. Get rappers from that era on some tracks some NaS, Tech you name it :) a few guru samples for good measure ;)
I do like your idea regarding frank but i think he's too close to the material after all these years.
Charlie Clouser type remixes is what i'd far prefer over rappers who have no idea who deftones are and would never listen to them
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 09:16 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 11, 2020, 03:39 PM
I really like Change. It's even better with the video, it's like a look back on something you know well with a different perspective.
the only thing good about the stallion is that the remix video for change is actually better than the album version video
The remix video is so much better.
I think that one, Squarepusher, and Phantograms remix are my favorites. I can't stop listening to Phantograms. I just like how the vocal melodies were re-arranged and how it fits so well. Also, I don't mind the female vocals, I didn't like it as much on Knife Prty's remix.
The Pink Maggit remix is excellent. Grown on me a lot. He really utilised the original in such a trippy, cool way and I love the restructuring.
Quote from: LG95 on Dec 12, 2020, 10:59 PM
The Pink Maggit remix is excellent. Grown on me a lot. He really utilised the original in such a trippy, cool way and I love the restructuring.
Also, they've used all instruments in the remix, not only chino's voice like the most part of black stallion. The breakdown "new" part is interesting
Quote from: mono on Dec 12, 2020, 11:03 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Dec 12, 2020, 10:59 PM
The Pink Maggit remix is excellent. Grown on me a lot. He really utilised the original in such a trippy, cool way and I love the restructuring.
Also, they've used all instruments in the remix, not only chino's voice like the most part of black stallion. The breakdown "new" part is interesting
Yeah that's what I'm saying with SP utilising the original - Abe is used nicely, there's that looped guitar riff part which sounds really cool too. Dude nailed it.
Quote from: Draken on Dec 12, 2020, 01:16 AM
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
OR maybe they could rack up 'rainbow shetland clydesdale' and just get dj premier to remix the album east coast hiphop style. Get rappers from that era on some tracks some NaS, Tech you name it :) a few guru samples for good measure
Deftones should've got Rhys Fulber to do all of the remixing and called it a day. Deftones should get Rhys to produce/mix/master/engineer their next album. I think Rhys would really push Deftones to bring out more of the electronic side of the band via Frank.
Or maybe Deftones could have bought a time machine to San Francisco 1991 and got the Wicked DJ crew of Jenö, Thomas, Markie, and Garth to make White Pony into a Rave album and called it "Ultraviolet Unicorn" or "Infrared Pegasus" :D
Hands down for Shinoda and the Passenger remix! 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiY67wIOIw0
Deftones Change Remix video - what is the board game shown at 04:13?
stratego
Quote from: Draken on Dec 12, 2020, 01:16 AM
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
I would dig that
I'd love to hear more remixes from the likes of Trent Reznor, Oneohtrix Point Never, or Aphex Twin. It would even be cool if they gave fans the stems so people could upload their own remixes. I think NIN did that.
Radiohead did that with their song Nude. All the tracks were downloadable separately so people could remix however they wanted. It was pretty cool.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Dec 19, 2020, 09:43 PM
Quote from: Draken on Dec 12, 2020, 01:16 AM
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Frank should've remixed all songs and call it a day ;D
I would dig that
I'd love to hear more remixes from the likes of Trent Reznor, Oneohtrix Point Never, or Aphex Twin. It would even be cool if they gave fans the stems so people could upload their own remixes. I think NIN did that.
Radiohead did that with their song Nude. All the tracks were downloadable separately so people could remix however they wanted. It was pretty cool.
As did, TEAM SLEEP with Ever like 15 years ago lol
Anyone who knows about video editing: how did they get the change remix video to such high quality / definition? Seems like it could have been made yesterday.
high resolution scanning of the original film probably
Quote from: Penicks on Dec 21, 2020, 10:54 AM
high resolution scanning of the original film probably
Yeah. When WDR aired that compilation of Bizarre Festival footage last year, Be Quiet and Drive was impeccable, more so than the broadcast we got in the 90s.
black stallion failed to make the billboard 200 in it's first week. oh well
Quote from: Hidalgo on Dec 22, 2020, 12:32 PM
black stallion failed to make the billboard 200 in it's first week. oh well
oof
Well I don't think they went hard enough, they left off two tracks from their classic album, and there was nothing about it to say "deluxe" version. The remixes were eh, and I don't know why they chose some of the artists to remix them. Like why Trevor Jackson? The remix video and remix itself for Change was surprisingly good, I will say. I just wish they might have had more than one remix per song. Feiticeira needed another take.
Quote from: Draken on Dec 22, 2020, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Dec 22, 2020, 12:32 PM
black stallion failed to make the billboard 200 in it's first week. oh well
oof
Well I don't think they went hard enough, they left off two tracks from their classic album, and there was nothing about it to say "deluxe" version. The remixes were eh, and I don't know why they chose some of the artists to remix them. Like why Trevor Jackson? The remix video and remix itself for Change was surprisingly good, I will say. I just wish they might have had more than one remix per song. Feiticeira needed another take.
Which two tracks? The "classic" album has 11 tracks starting with Feiteceira. 12 tracks if you include the Boys Republic.
Might be including BTS..... dont know why though as it wasn't on the classic (first release) if i temember right. Neither was TBR. Was on a limited edition in a red plastic case. I have them all somewhere. White, silver and red
Quote from: Visionz on Dec 24, 2020, 07:06 PM
Might be including BTS..... dont know why though as it wasn't on the classic (first release) if i temember right. Neither was TBR. Was on a limited edition in a red plastic case. I have them all somewhere. White, silver and red
Don't forget black
If you're going to call it a "20th anniversary deluxe version" then it should contain all of the songs from every edition. I still consider BTS and TBR part of the album even though they weren't on the first release. The only thing I could compare it to would be kinda like Joy Division re releasing their album Closer's anniversary edition without including Love Will Tear Us Apart.
The initial release was the silver/grey cover and had the 11 classic tracks, they also released two limited edition versions at that time; one black and one red that contained TBR but not BTS. They later released the white version that had BTS but no TBR. I have all of them in storage. Then there is also the digital blue version from Itunes and if I'm not mistaken there are some different vocals throughout. Some members here were talking about it but I can't remember exactly. There are different vocals in Passenger on this release, I know that for certain.
Quote from: Draken on Dec 24, 2020, 08:38 PM
If you're going to call it a "20th anniversary deluxe version" then it should contain all of the songs from every edition. I still consider BTS and TBR part of the album even though they weren't on the first release. The only thing I could compare it to would be kinda like Joy Division re releasing their album Closer's anniversary edition without including Love Will Tear Us Apart.
The initial release was the silver/grey cover and had the 11 classic tracks, they also released two limited edition versions at that time; one black and one red that contained TBR but not BTS. They later released the white version that had BTS but no TBR. I have all of them in storage. Then there is also the digital blue version from Itunes and if I'm not mistaken there are some different vocals throughout. Some members here were talking about it but I can't remember exactly. There are different vocals in Passenger on this release, I know that for certain.
I literally JUST noticed this while driving in my car today - the vocals at the end of Passenger, and then the voiceover at the end of Pink Maggit.
TOTALLY caught me by surprise and a complete "what the fuck" moment for me.
If this stuff is buried in the original mix, I've never heard it before. I'll have to listen to the remastered version from beginning to end to see if there's more of these nuances I missed.
Happy Holidays to everyone!
Those deets definitely aren't in the original Pony.
They are however present in the Studio Collection release from 2016. I'm pretty sure that's the version they used on the WPxBS release.
The Studio Collection has some other differences like that. "Hole in the Earth" has the "I hate all of my friends" line removed, "Lhabia" has four measures in the breakdown instead of three, etc.
Someone uploaded this to a FB page. It's cool that the cds come in the same packaging and not as the red digipack version
(https://i.ibb.co/fFByWFK/Whats-App-Image-2021-02-01-at-08-01-33.jpg)
In 2000 i had a giant poster of that lithograph and didnt take it down until my now wife moved in back in 2010. I hope i have it somewhere. Anyone else have it? It said Deftones in olive green and maybe said white piny with the globe same color
Quote from: Visionz on Feb 01, 2021, 10:15 PM
In 2000 i had a giant poster of that lithograph and didnt take it down until my now wife moved in back in 2010. I hope i have it somewhere. Anyone else have it? It said Deftones in olive green and maybe said white piny with the globe same color
yes, i still have the one i bought in late 2000. it's the best deftones poster they made imo
Yeah, Abe with the knife really makes it. Knife Party
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNYAnTsgz2H/
Love me some Telefon Tel Aviv (and Joshua's other stuff).
June seems so far away, I'm anxious to hear these remixes. I love Telefon Tel Aviv, their remix of NIN's Even Deeper was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rte2YuDtfVY
Way better than DJ Shadow's in my opinion.
Digging it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7NHBeawxzc
Quote from: LG95 on Jun 16, 2021, 11:00 PM
Way better than DJ Shadow's in my opinion.
Yeah, Shadow's version tried to take the song in too different of a direction. Slapping a weak trap beat with some random electronic noises at the end behind Chino's vocals doesn't work or fit at all. TTA's version understands the melancholic mood of the original much more.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jun 18, 2021, 11:44 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Jun 16, 2021, 11:00 PM
Way better than DJ Shadow's in my opinion.
Yeah, Shadow's version tried to take the song in too different of a direction. Slapping a weak trap beat with some random electronic noises at the end behind Chino's vocals doesn't work or fit at all. TTA's version understands the melancholic mood of the original much more.
Broadly agree.
I'm speculating here but I do wonder if with the story of the original remix idea they felt they had to include DJ Shadow's version on the record and putting this out on RSD was the concession.
Can't agree with that, I dig Shadow's remix.
It feels weird saying I'm into the Arca remix more than TTVs though....
Anyone find a high quality FLAC rip of the RSD 45? I have a copy but don't have the equipment to transfer it.
anyone have high quality of the two new remixes?
It's fine at times, but not at others, it seemed like a good idea at the time when they first had it a remix album. Most of the remixes don't build up or highlight the core strengths of the original.