Poll
Question:
"Ohms" favorite track
Option 1: 1. Genesis
Option 2: 2. Ceremony
Option 3: 3. Urantia
Option 4: 4. Errorr
Option 5: 5. The Spell of Mathematics
Option 6: 6. Pompeji
Option 7: 7. This Link Is Dead
Option 8: 8. Radiant City
Option 9: 9. Headless
Option 10: 10. Ohms
Deftones' 2020 new album. «OHMS».
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Album tracklist:
1. Genesis
2. Ceremony
3. Urantia
4. Errorr
5. The Spell of Mathematics
6. Pompeji
7. This Link Is Dead
8. Radiant City
9. Headless
10. Ohms
This will be Deftones' 9th studio album and the release date is now officially set to be on September 25th 2020.
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/deftones-ohms-2020-deftonesworld.com_.jpg)
"Ohms" self-titled single music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDbj0oeAj0
"Genesis" music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbp0bET06wc
"Ohms" Full Album Playlist Official Visualizer
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNRsYvRgbfmp9fNmO0LREozjCuY1elFtN
PLEASE RESPECT THE BAND'S WORK AND DO NOT SHARE SONGS, DO NOT ASK FOR THEM, YOU'RE FREE TO TALK, RESPECT AND MOSTLY TO SUPPORT THE DEFTONES!
Thanks drop-dead!
It's nice waking up to good news !
Do wish there had been an official announcement before tracks appearing on Australia/NZ sites but there you go. It's all out there now. What a ride!
Same but at least that's official too. I'm happy
There's light!
Yessss new record baby!
Loved the Ohms track and surprising its the last song the album!
My thoughts about the song summarized:
- love the 'full' guitar and drums sound
- vocal production reminds me of S/T
- sounds fresh, more original than Gore imo.
Some cool sounding song names on the record for sure. This link is dead instead of This place is dead? Lol
FUck yeah boys!
i'm hyped as all fuck?
What a time to be alive
"The Spell of Mathematics" - wtf?! weird title
I feel a STRONG Pumpkins vibe.
Why do I get the feeling Radiant City will be another Entombed / Rosemary type of song
IM SO FUCKING HAPPY!!!!!!! ITS SO GOOD!!!!!!!!
Omg this is so incredible cheers me fellow deftones mates !!!
I'm so emotional lol.
Wish my best mate was still around to hear this he'd be so stoked.
Single dropped 1 week before the "anniversary" of his death, RIP brother.
Thank you Deftones! <3
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 20, 2020, 01:37 PM
"The Spell of Mathematics" - wtf?! weird title
A lot of us have known about that title for like a month but we just haven't been able to say anything.
I love that it's the last song, means we're gonna hear some crazy music in the first 9tracks!!!
I don't like it that the closing track is the first single... also the song doesn't have a closing feel to it. In my opinion this should be the opener or maybe one of the first three songs of the album...
I think Pink Maggit was the best closer for their albums. Wish they would do such an epic closing track again, maybe in a different style but still something epic.
This is one of those moments where I feel as old as I am (42) in terms of knowing my way around online. Not sure where to look for the track...though that 30 second sample on NZ Apple is nice. Heavy Pumpkins influence for sure.
Guess I'll repeatedly keep plugging it into YouTube and hope some kind kiwi will post it...
Well, we have 9 new songs (and possibly two others) to look forward to. Bring on September!
lets fucking GO! so glad all the cloak and dagger stuff is over!
You're telling me
Anyone working on the lyrics??
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 20, 2020, 01:45 PM
You're telling me
Bless you, Ves. Props for your hard work the last few weeks and the stick you've got for doing it.
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Aug 20, 2020, 01:49 PM
Anyone working on the lyrics??
Someone already made an attempt on Genuis Lyrics
https://genius.com/Deftones-ohms-lyrics
Digging the album cover
(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/ea27cc2c319cd30592f901c745e0cdf4.jpg)
I 100% did not know what to expect before listening to the song and it still surprised me in every way imaginable. I really can't think of one song in their catalogue that sounds like this. Funny how I was pretty frightened of just how low Steph would go now that he got a 9-string, but this sounds like it could be played on a 6-string. As always, loved the song titles too.
Quote from: Frozen Curry on Aug 20, 2020, 01:42 PMI don't like it that the closing track is the first single... also the song doesn't have a closing feel to it. In my opinion this should be the opener or maybe one of the first three songs of the album...
we're hearing it out of context tho, we have
(officially) no idea what the other songs sound like
Quote from: wbasmith on Aug 20, 2020, 01:39 PM
I'm so emotional lol.
Wish my best mate was still around to hear this he'd be so stoked.
Single dropped 1 week before the "anniversary" of his death, RIP brother.
Thank you Deftones! <3
Cheers to your friend buddy !!
Not generally a fan of hearing the closing track as the first single but I like that it's a change up - everyone usually expects a Deftones closer to be a more obviously experimental, darker song, so Ohms closing could be a really cool switch in the context of the album.
I love the album cover.
Catchy closing songs like this one have an advantage: as soon as its done you want to start up the album again!
Also dont forget that Swerve City was supposed to be the closer of KNY.
I feel like "This Link is Dead" is gonna be the LMIRL of the album. I'm super excited to hear it.
And I'm getting those eyes tattooed on me.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Aug 20, 2020, 01:57 PM
Catchy closing songs like this one have an advantage: as soon as its done you want to start up the album again!
I think it probably will make me do that. The song rips.
We're finally here.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Aug 20, 2020, 01:51 PM
Digging the album cover
(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/ea27cc2c319cd30592f901c745e0cdf4.jpg)
excellent
Hey
Two more hours
So after ALL that effort, they don't even officially announce it, they just throw it on iTunes lol. Tracklist looks super intriguing though. Not a big fan of the artwork but I dig it for it's connection to the album title, and I'd be interested in hearing their reasoning in interviews. Can't wait to listen to the song!
They will announce it. Stick tight. It's just how it rolls out cause, you know, the world is big.
Quote from: kroko on Aug 20, 2020, 02:00 PM
I feel like "This Link is Dead" is gonna be the LMIRL of the album. I'm super excited to hear it.
And I'm getting those eyes tattooed on me.
On your eyelids surely?
Interesting track list
That time signature change at 3:20 is soo smoooooth
Aleluia! God bless you all!
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 20, 2020, 02:06 PM
That time signature change at 3:20 is soo smoooooth
100%
GAH where are you non-NZ folks hearing it?
If Deftones are good for anything aside from music, it's making me feel like an entitled, impatient child.
I think the only bad thing about this track is that it's too short. It feels like it should go much longer, is this the track that had a 12-min long demo that Chino talked about?
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Aug 20, 2020, 01:50 PM
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Aug 20, 2020, 01:49 PM
Anyone working on the lyrics??
Someone already made an attempt on Genuis Lyrics
https://genius.com/Deftones-ohms-lyrics
If they would've read the Kerrang piece they would've realized the first line is
"We're surrounded by derbies of the past"
Song is great. Crosses style vocals. Good mix. Honestly, the intro riff sounds like an old 311 song. I'm not saying that's bad, just a throwback vibe. I like that there's no forced screaming vocals in it.
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Aug 20, 2020, 02:07 PM
GAH where are you non-NZ folks hearing it?
If Deftones are good for anything aside from music, it's making me feel like an entitled, impatient child.
We're not passing round or directing people to leaks. Sorry. The song is 'around'.
its interesting how apparently the previous song leads straight into this one, reminds me of how Gore fades into Phantom Bride. damn I'm hyped af
I noticed the single's intro is kinda similar to Hearts/Wires', like the first second. Will this album be like Gore were the outros and intros connect the songs to each other?
(been lurking here for the past weeks, hope it isn't too late to join the hype here)
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 20, 2020, 02:10 PM
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Aug 20, 2020, 01:50 PM
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Aug 20, 2020, 01:49 PM
Anyone working on the lyrics??
Someone already made an attempt on Genuis Lyrics
https://genius.com/Deftones-ohms-lyrics
If they would've read the Kerrang piece they would've realized the first line is
"We're surrounded by derbies of the past"
We're surrounded by debris of the past
How repetitive is the song? Does it have more than two real riffs? Does it rip off any older songs? That is to say, they don't do another 0-2-3 riff or strum two drone chords back and forth.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Aug 20, 2020, 02:04 PM
Quote from: kroko on Aug 20, 2020, 02:00 PM
I feel like "This Link is Dead" is gonna be the LMIRL of the album. I'm super excited to hear it.
And I'm getting those eyes tattooed on me.
On your eyelids surely?
Oh, obviously!
Yea i noticed the transition into the song as wel, love that shit.
Actually knowing its the closing track makes me even more hyped, the last 30 seconds are FIRE to close the album with.
Also, compared to Gore, Abe is injecting his drums straight into my ears here. So inportant for the deftones sound!!!! Love ya abe
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 20, 2020, 02:11 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 20, 2020, 02:10 PM
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Aug 20, 2020, 01:50 PM
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Aug 20, 2020, 01:49 PM
Anyone working on the lyrics??
Someone already made an attempt on Genuis Lyrics
https://genius.com/Deftones-ohms-lyrics
If they would've read the Kerrang piece they would've realized the first line is
"We're surrounded by debies of the past"
We're surrounded by debris of the past
Where are you all hearing the full song? I know the first post says not to ask for songs but I'm guessing that's the leaks, this is obviously officially released, since it has the song length, but all I get is the preview.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 20, 2020, 02:11 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 20, 2020, 02:10 PM
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Aug 20, 2020, 01:50 PM
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Aug 20, 2020, 01:49 PM
Anyone working on the lyrics??
Someone already made an attempt on Genuis Lyrics
https://genius.com/Deftones-ohms-lyrics
If they would've read the Kerrang piece they would've realized the first line is
"We're surrounded by derbies of the past"
We're surrounded by debris of the past
Yeah I slipped up with a typo..trying to help my kids with virtual school while keeping up with this Deftones madness has been tough lol
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 20, 2020, 02:15 PM
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 20, 2020, 02:11 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 20, 2020, 02:10 PM
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Aug 20, 2020, 01:50 PM
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Aug 20, 2020, 01:49 PM
Anyone working on the lyrics??
Someone already made an attempt on Genuis Lyrics
https://genius.com/Deftones-ohms-lyrics
If they would've read the Kerrang piece they would've realized the first line is
"We're surrounded by derbies of the past"
We're surrounded by debris of the past
Yeah I slipped up with a typo..trying to help my kids with virtual school while keeping up with this Deftones madness has been tough lol
Roller Derbies of the past
ANattyRat it's up for preview on Apple Music and the whole thing is up on Spotify in parts of the world where it's Friday.
Lyrics..
Deftones - Ohms
We're surrounded by debris of the past
and it's too late to
cause a change in the tides so we slip
into a hopeless sea of regret as I stare through the haunted maze in your eyes right through we'll all remain for all time
and time won't change this please
promise me yeah time won't change this it's how we'll stay
this is our time we devour the days ahead
we've been possesed by these changing tides
as we slip on through we promise to meet again
somewhere through the haunted maze
in our minds right through where we shall remain for all time
and time will change this please promise me now time wont change this we shall remain
Sorry for formatting on my phone.. Will change it when I get home
Can't wait for 9/4.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 20, 2020, 02:18 PM
Lyrics..
Deftones - Ohms
We're surrounded by debris of the past
and it's too late to
cause a change in the tides so we slip
into a hopeless sea of regret as I stare through the haunted maze in your eyes right through we'll all remain for all time
and time won't change this please
promise me yeah time won't change this it's how we'll stay
this is our time we devour the days ahead
we've been possesed by these changing tides
as we slip on through we promise to meet again
somewhere through the haunted maze
in our minds right through where we shall remain for all time
and time will change this please promise me now time wont change this we shall remain
Sorry for formatting on my phone.. Will change it when I get home
Excellent work man! Thanks.
All the dots are filled in on the website now. No clickable link however...
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 20, 2020, 02:20 PM
Can't wait for 9/4.
Most of the world hasn't even hit 8/21 yet. Time for a pause.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 20, 2020, 02:10 PM
I think the only bad thing about this track is that it's too short. It feels like it should go much longer, is this the track that had a 12-min long demo that Chino talked about?
I get the same vibe, feels like the song can keep going on. Maybe adding Chino on guitar at the end?
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 20, 2020, 02:21 PM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 20, 2020, 02:20 PM
Can't wait for 9/4.
Most of the world has t even hit 8/21 yet. Time for a pause.
Yea it's barely 8/20 for me. I can't wait till 4
Quote from: chubean on Aug 20, 2020, 02:20 PM
All the dots are filled in on the website now. No clickable link however...
Of course. The official release is on the 21st. Not happening before almost a whole day in California.
Finally heard it. Um...not at all what I was expecting. Still processing. 3 listens in, I hear a blend of SNW and Gore...
However...the first 3 seconds, that little transition sound from what I assume is the song before it on the album, has me excited.
TERRRRRRY FUCKING DATE.
oh fucking hell how I've missed this production.
Okay so first listen.classic
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:12 PM
How repetitive is the song? Does it have more than two real riffs? Does it rip off any older songs? That is to say, they don't do another 0-2-3 riff or strum two drone chords back and forth.
not at all, absolutely, absolutely not, absolutely not
Quote from: Playhouse on Aug 20, 2020, 02:25 PM
TERRRRRRY FUCKING DATE.
oh fucking hell how I’ve missed this production.
Okay so first listen.classic
it does make it even more obvious how terribly Gore suffers from its production, which is really sad tbh
Think the mods here deserve a round of applause for keeping a lid on things. Also, props to Deftones and their team for a thoroughly entertaining album campaign thus far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_a-5kd94M
On the official Deftones YouTube....
The album art image from the website is named "deftonesday7"
cool.
That riff is so catchy. Does anyone know what tuning its in?
I see the profile descriptors have been updated per Ohms tracks!
The lyrics "as I stare through the haunted maze in your eyes right through we'll all remain for all time" portrays the artwork perfectly.
Never doubt them, they know what they're doing.
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_a-5kd94M
On the official Deftones YouTube....
video unavailable
Am i the only person here that has no idea how to listen to the song?
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_a-5kd94M
On the official Deftones YouTube....
video unavailable
Yeah its region blocked apparently, sorry about that. Got all excited for a sec thinking everyone could share in the new 'tones
Back to the album art someone mentioned it's not eyes and maybe be somewhat connected to the ocean. Looking upside down it looks like two fish swimming with their shadows under them like a male fish trying to mate with a female fish. I don't know just something I noticed...
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Am i the only person here that has no idea how to listen to the song?
it's really not that hard to find right now.
I always thought it was bullshit to officially release stuff before to certain people because they are lucky enough to live in a different timezone.
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:34 PM
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_a-5kd94M
On the official Deftones YouTube....
video unavailable
Yeah its region blocked apparently, sorry about that. Got all excited for a sec thinking everyone could share in the new 'tones
is it the single?
Quote from: wbasmith on Aug 20, 2020, 01:39 PM
I'm so emotional lol.
Wish my best mate was still around to hear this he'd be so stoked.
Single dropped 1 week before the "anniversary" of his death, RIP brother.
Thank you Deftones! <3
<3 may all your best memories of him be with you during this time. Much love bro
Quote from: There Will Be Blood on Aug 20, 2020, 02:35 PM
Back to the album art someone mentioned it's not eyes and maybe be somewhat connected to the ocean. Looking upside down it looks like two fish swimming with their shadows under them like a male fish trying to mate with a female fish. I don't know just something I noticed...
I mean they are meant to loo like eyes but they might have a double meaning. So i call bullshit on that guy.
Is this book the inspiration for the song?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510XNOI2tZL.jpg)
https://www.amazon.com/Spell-Mathematics-Pelican-W-J-Reichmann/dp/0140215158
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:35 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Am i the only person here that has no idea how to listen to the song?
it's really not that hard to find right now.
I haven't looked for leak in years and I don't follow every deftones group ever. I wouldn't say it's "easy to find". Oh well. I'll wait.
I am no longer Elite status, I am now Ohms status! Cool idea Nuno!
where are yall seeing eyes? its obviously a rat having a conversation with a snail
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 02:41 PM
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:35 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Am i the only person here that has no idea how to listen to the song?
it's really not that hard to find right now.
I haven't looked for leak in years and I don't follow every deftones group ever. I wouldn't say it's "easy to find". Oh well. I'll wait.
You can hear a preview here at https://music.apple.com/nz/album/ohms/1528075495.
It's only easy to find for people who know where to look, and it doesn't come that easily to everyone.
About YouTube, it'll be accessible on Friday, like Spotify.
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:37 PM
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:34 PM
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_a-5kd94M
On the official Deftones YouTube....
video unavailable
Yeah its region blocked apparently, sorry about that. Got all excited for a sec thinking everyone could share in the new 'tones
is it the single?
Yep. Autogen'd by YT and region blocked(time limited I would assume), but its the single nonetheless.
I mean, it took me 3 words and a search engine to find it lol
but yeah, be patient, it's literally coming in a few hours
And we're 100% positive that the eyes art is not the Olms single art????
Apple Music has the artwork next to the entire tracklist, so I don't know.
I don't think it's single artwork. I think that's it for the album
When you look at each album art together,Ohms fits right in because it's so unique. It feels iconic to me idk
Still don't understand the purpose of revealing the artwork in the way that they did - those incremental changes. In the end how it looks officially is pretty much the same as the day it first appeared.
Finally hearing Sergio, good work TD
@punkflop We spent so long looking at it that we'll never forget it.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 20, 2020, 02:54 PM
@punkflop We spent so long looking at it that we'll never forget it.
Very good point! It definitely has made more of an impression on me than it would have if they had revealed it today with the album officially.
Quote from: mono on Aug 20, 2020, 02:54 PM
Finally hearing Sergio, good work TD
Sergio was one of the most notable things on Gore. Haven't heard the new stuff yet, but I don't think TD is required to hear Sergio.
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Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:37 PM
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:34 PM
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Quote from: sanchez94 on Aug 20, 2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_a-5kd94M
On the official Deftones YouTube....
video unavailable
Yeah its region blocked apparently, sorry about that. Got all excited for a sec thinking everyone could share in the new 'tones
is it the single?
Yep. Autogen'd by YT and region blocked(time limited I would assume), but its the single nonetheless.
Video becomes automatically available when your area hits midnight/friday. Therefore it's only available in a few countries right now.
I am so at risk of being late at work tomorrow.
song didn't click on first listen, kind of reminds me of pittura infamente which is a big meh. we'll see in a month when i hear it again after following 9 other songs
The cover has me conflicted. Asthetically, and in terms of a Deftones cover, I really do like it. It sets a certain tone and is both pretty and menacing at the same time (as all things Deftones should be). But at the same time, it's sort of disappointing because it looks like someone spent 5 minutes in Microsoft Paint and BAM there's your cover.
Quote from: There Will Be Blood on Aug 20, 2020, 02:48 PM
And we're 100% positive that the eyes art is not the Olms single art????
I thought about that for a split second. A few people kept saying it wasn't the eyes.
I guess I'll be the first one to say it - I do not like the new song. Maybe it was my own foolish expectation thinking the last song on the album would be "heavy" or another "Pink Maggit", but I honestly thought the main riff was a joke at first. This sounds like something that could've dropped with Gore. I am super happy for everyone who clicks with the song immediately, but I am definitely not one of those people. :-\
I think Genesis or ceremony will be a single, what the next one will be, who knows, maybe Headless?
Quote from: Pink_Sands on Aug 20, 2020, 03:00 PM
I guess I'll be the first one to say it - I do not like the new song. Maybe it was my own foolish expectation thinking the last song on the album would be "heavy" or another "Pink Maggit", but I honestly thought the main riff was a joke at first. This sounds like something that could've dropped with Gore. I am super happy for everyone who clicks with the song immediately, but I am definitely not one of those people. :-\
it's deftones, so you'll probably love it a few years from now
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 03:04 PM
Quote from: Pink_Sands on Aug 20, 2020, 03:00 PM
I guess I'll be the first one to say it - I do not like the new song. Maybe it was my own foolish expectation thinking the last song on the album would be "heavy" or another "Pink Maggit", but I honestly thought the main riff was a joke at first. This sounds like something that could've dropped with Gore. I am super happy for everyone who clicks with the song immediately, but I am definitely not one of those people. :-\
it's deftones, so you'll probably love it a few years from now
I hope you're right!
Quote from: Pink_Sands on Aug 20, 2020, 03:00 PM
I guess I'll be the first one to say it - I do not like the new song. Maybe it was my own foolish expectation thinking the last song on the album would be "heavy" or another "Pink Maggit", but I honestly thought the main riff was a joke at first. This sounds like something that could've dropped with Gore. I am super happy for everyone who clicks with the song immediately, but I am definitely not one of those people. :-\
Not sure about the main riff, but the little fill/lead in at the start felt cheesy to me. But I do like to hear the guys having fun...which is why I don't mind Gore nearly as much as other people.
I would love a textured vinyl jacket for this album
It's not the most amazing song I've ever heard, far from it, but it's alright. I was prepared for something far heavier since the album had been advertized as such compared to the 2010's releases. Not gonna make any more assumptions until the album release so I don't disappoint myself from too much hype.
Pink Maggit was a one in a million. Untoppable, then and forever.
what region is the song available in on YT?
Regions where it's Friday.
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 20, 2020, 02:59 PM
song didn't click on first listen, kind of reminds me of pittura infamente which is a big meh. we'll see in a month when i hear it again after following 9 other songs
I had the same feeling with the release of prayers/triangles. But with the tame, it grew up in a very good way. Maybe just wait some time
Quote from: Iwazaru on Aug 20, 2020, 03:08 PM
It's not the most amazing song I've ever heard, far from it, but it's alright. I was prepared for something far heavier since the album had been advertized as such compared to the 2010's releases. Not gonna make any more assumptions until the album release so I don't disappoint myself from too much hype.
Not having any expectations is the best way to enjoy something. You can only blame yourself if you visualize what you want in your head and expect that I made that mistake too many times with deftones. Songs more than alright. I MUCH prefer this over anything on Gore
Quote from: Iwazaru on Aug 20, 2020, 03:08 PM
It's not the most amazing song I've ever heard, far from it, but it's alright. I was prepared for something far heavier since the album had been advertized as such compared to the 2010's releases. Not gonna make any more assumptions until the album release so I don't disappoint myself from too much hype.
Well I don't think they would drop the heaviest shit as a first single.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 20, 2020, 03:10 PM
Regions where it's Friday.
ahh, derp. Thank you. If you guys have a VPN, jump on an Australian server and you can listen to the single
First impressions: Vocally it's Chino in his safe zone (I'll never complain about his vocals... ever). I dig the lyrics. Musically the bass and drums sound Deftones, but Steph definitely experiments with new sounds which is exciting. I didn't catch much from Frank, honestly, but may have missed it.
It isn't a mind blowing song, but I wouldn't quite call it "safe" bc of that guitar. It makes perfect sense as a first single... despite it being a closer which is a weird choice. All in all, I really like it, and will be playing the shit out of it... but most excited to hear what's next.
Quote from: RadioFriendlyUnitShifter on Aug 20, 2020, 03:20 PM
First impressions: Vocally it's Chino in his safe zone (I'll never complain about his vocals... ever). I dig the lyrics. Musically the bass and drums sound Deftones, but Steph definitely experiments with new sounds which is exciting. I didn't catch much from Frank, honestly, but may have missed it.
It isn't a mind blowing song, but I wouldn't quite call it "safe" bc of that guitar. It makes perfect sense as a first single... despite it being a closer which is a weird choice. All in all, I really like it, and will be playing the shit out of it... but most excited to hear what's next.
I agree with all of this. Definitely a good choice to get you excited about the rest of the album.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Aug 20, 2020, 03:08 PM
I was prepared for something far heavier since the album had been advertized as such compared to the 2010's releases. Not gonna make any more assumptions until the album release so I don't disappoint myself from too much hype.
Who advertised the album as heavy?
Twenty years after White Pony and people are still getting hung up on "is it heavy?", as if they've never listened to Deftones before. Not having a go at you particularly, but a few people are going in with that question/expectation and they inevitably end up disappointed when it's not 'heavy' enough for them. Happens every album.
And eventually they go back and realise the record is great. See S/T and SNW. See even White Pony - there were fans who thought that record was too soft, didn't have enough screaming etc. Which is obviously mental but that's what having too many stylistic expectations can do.
Did anyone else get Mastodon vibes with the outro of the song
I hear Devin Townsend in the opening riff. Life off of Ocean Machine to be exact
I like a few heavy tracks scattered about. I think Chino said he isn't into that as much anymore in an interview a few years ago.
I think they have to fill a heavy metal quota to keep Steph around
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 03:24 PM
Quote from: Iwazaru on Aug 20, 2020, 03:08 PM
I was prepared for something far heavier since the album had been advertized as such compared to the 2010's releases. Not gonna make any more assumptions until the album release so I don't disappoint myself from too much hype.
Who advertised the album as heavy?
Twenty years after White Pony and people are still getting hung up on "is it heavy?", as if they've never listened to Deftones before. Not having a go at you particularly, but a few people are going in with that question/expectation and they inevitably end up disappointed when it's not 'heavy' enough for them. Happens every album.
And eventually they go back and realise the record is great. See S/T and SNW. See even White Pony - there were fans who thought that record was too soft, didn't have enough screaming etc. Which is obviously mental but that's what having too many stylistic expectations can do.
I was gonna say it comes from comments made by Chino in the press months ago, but I double checked and it actually is two years old:
QuoteIn May 2018, Moreno was again asked about the new material and he stated the songs were "considerably heavier" than those on Gore.[101]
So yeah, the blame is totally on me for this since back then the album wasn't formed at all and they were just doing demos. I think I just accepted naively that the album would be heavier than the last three ones and followed that line of beliefs.
Dammit, didn't think there'd be any news today. I was expecting MAYBE Friday. Still awesome to come back to some official news finally.
I KNEW the first single would be called Ohms, I should've called it.
I was just about to comment this, but it looks like LG95 beat me to it. Was the album ever said to necessarily be more heavy? They said it was going to have more involvement from Stef, and I think this song definitely reflects that. It's all centered around the guitar.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 03:31 PM
I was just about to comment this, but it looks like LG95 beat me to it. Was the album ever said to necessarily be more heavy? They said it was going to have more involvement from Stef, and I think this song definitely reflects that. It's all centered around the guitar.
Also - a reminder that Stef wrote Mascara and Entombed. He can mellow with the best of them 😂
Quote from: Iwazaru on Aug 20, 2020, 03:29 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 03:24 PM
Quote from: Iwazaru on Aug 20, 2020, 03:08 PM
I was prepared for something far heavier since the album had been advertized as such compared to the 2010's releases. Not gonna make any more assumptions until the album release so I don't disappoint myself from too much hype.
Who advertised the album as heavy?
Twenty years after White Pony and people are still getting hung up on "is it heavy?", as if they've never listened to Deftones before. Not having a go at you particularly, but a few people are going in with that question/expectation and they inevitably end up disappointed when it's not 'heavy' enough for them. Happens every album.
And eventually they go back and realise the record is great. See S/T and SNW. See even White Pony - there were fans who thought that record was too soft, didn't have enough screaming etc. Which is obviously mental but that's what having too many stylistic expectations can do.
I was gonna say it comes from comments made by Chino in the press months ago, but I double checked and it actually is two years old:
QuoteIn May 2018, Moreno was again asked about the new material and he stated the songs were "considerably heavier" than those on Gore.[101]
So yeah, the blame is totally on me for this since back then the album wasn't formed at all and they were just doing demos. I think I just accepted naively that the album would be heavier than the last three ones and followed that line of beliefs.
I have not heard the other leaks, but this is 1 song. and its the closer of the album. The closer is rarely the heaviest track of a deftones album. I'm just glad the production is good again.
I do want to give a shoutout to Sergio on this song though. The way the bass and guitar follow each other at the 7/8 part all the way until the end sounds killer.
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 03:31 PM
I was just about to comment this, but it looks like LG95 beat me to it. Was the album ever said to necessarily be more heavy? They said it was going to have more involvement from Stef, and I think this song definitely reflects that. It's all centered around the guitar.
Also - a reminder that Stef wrote Mascara and Entombed. He can mellow with the best of them 😂
Entombed is one of my favs from Koi, if he does something of its level or even better on Ohms i'll be delighted.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 03:36 PM
I have not heard the other leaks, but this is 1 song. and its the closer of the album. The closer is rarely the heaviest track of a deftones album. I'm just glad the production is good again.
Yeah, I've only heard it from youtube for now but I'll listen to it loseless at midnight. But I can already tell that it shows Terry is back on the team.
It's a good song for them to potentially get some more radio play (I know that isn't important anymore) but I could deffo see BBC 6 Music here in the UK playing Ohms, Mary Anne Hobs usually plays Deftones tracks on her daytime show
I can more or less picture why this song is the album's closer. It has some sort of "epilogue" feel to it, if that makes any sense.
the only thing i'm disappointed is the fact it's the album closer. I usually prefer my closer to be longer, more epic and anthemic. But i love the song, if everything else is of. the same quality, I'll be happy.
I'm really digging this. As with most things Deftones - it sounds like Deftones. But it doesn't quite sound the same as anything else they've done. They're one of the few bands out there that does well to evolve their sound while still sounding like themselves and not alienating their existing fanbase.
It's alright. Not that big of a fan of the bubbly guitar riff.
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 20, 2020, 03:39 PM
It's a good song for them to potentially get some more radio play (I know that isn't important anymore) but I could deffo see BBC 6 Music here in the UK playing Ohms, Mary Anne Hobs usually plays Deftones tracks on her daytime show
I created an account just so I could say yeeeeeessss love it when Mary Anne Hobbs plays a Deftones tune in the afternoon! Always loads of love for it on Twitter.
I've been really enjoying following the hype on here this week, keep it up you funny bunch! Counting down til midnight BST!
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 03:48 PM
the only thing i'm disappointed is the fact it's the album closer. I usually prefer my closer to be longer, more epic and anthemic. But i love the song, if everything else is of. the same quality, I'll be happy.
they set the bar way too high with Rubicon
hah, i just realized, I should be seeing Deftones tonight in Jersey. I guess a new single is an ok 2nd place trophy :-\
The guitar in This song reminds me a little bit of some CKY. Think "flesh into gear" or maybe even "96 quite bitter beings".
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 03:55 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 03:48 PM
the only thing i'm disappointed is the fact it's the album closer. I usually prefer my closer to be longer, more epic and anthemic. But i love the song, if everything else is of. the same quality, I'll be happy.
they set the bar way too high with Rubicon
I was thinking more of Pink Maggit, but yeah.
Ok guys, all this talk about it sounding like "S/T era" is hyping the fuck out of me. Shit, having to wait till tomorrow will suck!
How does Abe make a song bounce so effortlessly? He's so fucking good.
Pink Maggit forever will reign supreme as best album closer, but can we get some love for Rivière? I hardly see anyone talk about that song and I absolutely love it.
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 20, 2020, 02:59 PM
song didn't click on first listen, kind of reminds me of pittura infamente which is a big meh. we'll see in a month when i hear it again after following 9 other songs
I've felt the same,with more listenings is getting better for me though.
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 20, 2020, 03:56 PM
The guitar in This song reminds me a little bit of some CKY. Think "flesh into gear" or maybe even "96 quite bitter beings".
Exactly what I thought, like a faster CKY riff. Used to listen to a lot of them back in the day and it totally gave me those vibes. But he used to play his guitar with only 4 strings ;D
Quote from: ConcealingFate92 on Aug 20, 2020, 03:58 PM
Ok guys, all this talk about it sounding like "S/T era" is hyping the fuck out of me. Shit, having to wait till tomorrow will suck!
It honestly doesn't sound much like S/T era to my ears. Not to kill your hype, it's a good song, just don't go into it with any expectations! I'm having a hard time drawing comparisons to past albums in general honestly, this very much sounds like it's own thing to me.
Gotta admit, the song is growing on me. I expect it to be a pleasant final track once I'll be listening to the whole thing from start to finish.
It's more KNY sounding for me
Quote from: ConcealingFate92 on Aug 20, 2020, 03:58 PM
Ok guys, all this talk about it sounding like "S/T era" is hyping the fuck out of me. Shit, having to wait till tomorrow will suck!
I wouldn't say the song sounds like anything off of self-titled, but other songs from the album? Possibly maybe probably
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 03:57 PM
Quote from: macalmx on Aug 20, 2020, 03:55 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 03:48 PM
the only thing i'm disappointed is the fact it's the album closer. I usually prefer my closer to be longer, more epic and anthemic. But i love the song, if everything else is of. the same quality, I'll be happy.
they set the bar way too high with Rubicon
I was thinking more of Pink Maggit, but yeah.
Yeah, I guessed
Rubicon is epic tho, underated just like Gore as a whole.
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 20, 2020, 03:56 PM
The guitar in This song reminds me a little bit of some CKY. Think "flesh into gear" or maybe even "96 quite bitter beings".
Also one of my favorite bands
I'm pretty hopeful for this album
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
It's more KNY sounding for me
The "throoouuuggghhh" part at around 1:05 is kind of reminiscent to something on KNY for sure.
TWO MORE HOU...NO, FUCK TWO MORE HOURS. NOW. RIGHT NOW.
Kinda sounds like a Koi No Yokan b-side. ;)
I like it - it's a fun, energetic, catchy rock ditty. Almost some classic rock vibes riff wise, like The Who or something. Someone mentioned Pittura and I can hear the similarities there. I don't think it's Chino's most mindblowing performance or anything, but I do really like when he hits the "through the haunted maze" note and other moments (I wrote a screenplay about a haunted maze of sorts, so it feels cool to hear that personally). The chorus has that blissed-out vibe he had going on during S/T and SNW IMO.
I think the weird, creepy sounding synthlike distortion in the very beginning is a hint as to what Headless will sound like because it's track 9. I wouldn't necessarily peg Ohms as a closer as it sounds more like a song that would be, say, a track 2 or 3 for me, but to be fair, I can't really make that call until I have the album in full.
And Terry's production is really evident. Sounds super crisp and fucking massive at the same time. Welcome back, sir. Good to have you back.
It sounds nothing like S/T, but you should still be hyped.
Quote from: ConcealingFate92 on Aug 20, 2020, 03:58 PM
Ok guys, all this talk about it sounding like "S/T era" is hyping the fuck out of me. Shit, having to wait till tomorrow will suck!
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 04:06 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
It's more KNY sounding for me
The "throoouuuggghhh" part at around 1:05 is kind of reminiscent to something on KNY for sure.
That part sounds like Future Warrior from the Palms album.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 04:06 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
It's more KNY sounding for me
The "throoouuuggghhh" part at around 1:05 is kind of reminiscent to something on KNY for sure.
100%
Sergio's bass is FANTASTIC!!!!
The whole "Time won't change this" section and the transition into it is getting me so hyped. My favourite bit of the song.
The cover art and some of the song titles, specifically Error and This Link Is Dead, are really giving off that dystopian, technology-run-amok vibe. That's really exciting to me.
i forgot i had my EQ on, on my phone and it was set to classical... so I waas thinking fuuuuckkkk they fucked up the production on this... now that eq is off... wow... its soooo good
The new track is amazing. Terry mothafuckin' Date is back on the team, thank god. Chino's vocals float PERFECTLY in the mix. That was the biggest problem I had with Gore, his voice just seemed on top of everything rather than being like another instrument in the mix. I'm getting some Smashing Pumpkins vibes as well. Did anyone see Chino perform with them? That was awesome.
It's kinda weird though how the first single is the album closer... not complaining however.
I'm getting Romantic Dreams vibes off it also
Final lyrics all cleaned up and fixed from last post
Deftones - Ohms
---------------
We're surrounded
by debris of the past
and it's too late
to cause a change in the tides
so we slip into a hopeless sea of regret
as I stare through the haunted maze
in your eyes
right through
we'll all remain
for all time
and time won't change this
this promise made
yeah time won't change this
it's how we'll stay
this is our time
we devour the days ahead
we've been possessed by these changing tides
as we slip on through
we promise to meet again
somewhere
through the haunted maze
in our minds
right through
where we shall remain
for all time
and time won't change this
this promise we made
and time won't change this
we shall remain
what i hear:
ohms
we're sorrounded
by debris of the past
and it's to late
to cause a change in the tides
so we slip into
open sea of regreat, as i stare.
through
the haunted maze
in your eyes
right through
where i'll remain
for all time
and time won't change this!
this promise we made
yeah, time won't change this!
it's how we'll stay
this is our time
we devour the days ahead
we've been possessed by this changing tides
as we slip on through
we promise to meet again... somewhere!
through...
the haunted maze
in our minds
right through...
where we shall remain
for all time
yeah! someone changed this!
this promise we made
if someone changed this!
we shall remain
I hear a little bit of that, love that song and the video was cool too. I'm digging this track's groove alot, especially the chorus.
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 20, 2020, 04:24 PM
I'm getting Romantic Dreams vibes off it also
Long, long time lurker. Looks like my username is chosen!
On my 4th listen of Ohms, the chorus is fantastic. Loving the shift in time signatures as well.
Saying I'm pumped for the rest of the album is an understatement.
Interestingly, the lyrics are kind of sad and don't match the upbeat sound of the song.
Waiting here....not so patiently. Reading everyone's input before I've actually heard the track has my head spinning...
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 20, 2020, 04:22 PM
i forgot i had my EQ on, on my phone and it was set to classical... so I waas thinking fuuuuckkkk they fucked up the production on this... now that eq is off... wow... its soooo good
hahaha dodged a bullet there
now i'm imagining them rehearsing in powdered wigs
*and it's too late
to cause a change in the tides
so we slip into
an open sea of regret, as i stare.*
*yeah! time won't change this!
this promise we made
and time won't change this!
we shall remain*
Quote from: Slacker on Aug 20, 2020, 04:31 PM
what i hear:
ohms
we're sorrounded
by debris of the past
and it's to late
to caught a change in the tides
so we slip into
open sea or regreat, as i stare.
through
the haunted maze
in your eyes
right through
where i'll remain
for all time
and time won't change this!
this promise made
yeah, time won't change this!
it's how we'll stay
this is our time
we devour the days ahead
we've been possessed by this changing tides
as we sleep on through
we promise to meet again... somewhere!
through...
the haunted maze
in our minds
right through...
where we shall remain
for all time
yeah! someone changed this!
this promise we made
if someone changed this!
we shall remain
Holy shit that was awful. Riff is straight up CKY/Weezer but far less interesting/memorable. Vocals are straight out of Crosses, both melody and lyrics - very typical Chino. Artwork is tired and unimpressive. Song titles came out of a Deftones-song-title-generator. Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Holy shit that was awful. Riff is straight up CKY/Weezer but far less interesting/memorable. Vocals are straight out of Crosses, both melody and lyrics - very typical Chino. Artwork is tired and unimpressive. Song titles came out of a Deftones-song-title-generator. Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
"Weezer but less memorable" is a bit harsh no? lol
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Holy shit that was awful. Riff is straight up CKY/Weezer but far less interesting/memorable. Vocals are straight out of Crosses, both melody and lyrics - very typical Chino. Artwork is tired and unimpressive. Song titles came out of a Deftones-song-title-generator. Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
lol
Here we go...
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 03:59 PM
Pink Maggit forever will reign supreme as best album closer, but can we get some love for Rivière? I hardly see anyone talk about that song and I absolutely love it.
Yes! That is one of my favourite Deftones songs.
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Holy shit that was awful. Riff is straight up CKY/Weezer but far less interesting/memorable. Vocals are straight out of Crosses, both melody and lyrics - very typical Chino. Artwork is tired and unimpressive. Song titles came out of a Deftones-song-title-generator. Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
Nice preview of Anthony Fantano's upcoming review.
Defthony Tonestano here!
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
You're entitled to your opinion about the song, but something tells me you're going to be eating these particular words when you hear the full album. Trust me - you ain't heard NOTHING yet.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 04:56 PM
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
You're entitled to your opinion about the song, but something tells me you're going to be eating these particular words when you hear the full album. Trust me - you ain't heard NOTHING yet.
I hope you're right.
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Holy shit that was awful. Riff is straight up CKY/Weezer but far less interesting/memorable. Vocals are straight out of Crosses, both melody and lyrics - very typical Chino. Artwork is tired and unimpressive. Song titles came out of a Deftones-song-title-generator. Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
You need to go easy on reviews from theneedledrop ;D
"Do you like Deftones?"
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEHb_xLnqDy/
Analog Stef is best Stef.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 03:59 PM
Pink Maggit forever will reign supreme as best album closer, but can we get some love for Rivière?
Always 8) Such an underrated emotional cut
Pink Maggit reigns supreme but Damone destroys.
I'm hoping I don't immediately love it to death.
I love albums much more in the long run if it takes a while to dig in. I've only listened to the snippet but it seemed KNY to me from those 30 seconds ha.
"TonesTony SuckTano here
Putting a strong lol on this thing"
OHMSthony FANtano.
Finally listened to the song. At first I didn't like it, but about halfway into it I realised that was because it was completely different from what I expected. It's awesome, and to be honest it really does sound like Stef is maybe coming out of his safe/comfort zone, which isn't a bad thing, and just goes to show how much more invested he is this time around compared to Gore. It kind of reminds me of Rubicon, the closer of the album ending almost on a (sonically) high note? Either way, I'm excited!
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Holy shit that was awful. Riff is straight up CKY/Weezer but far less interesting/memorable. Vocals are straight out of Crosses, both melody and lyrics - very typical Chino. Artwork is tired and unimpressive. Song titles came out of a Deftones-song-title-generator. Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
People like you who think that because they don't like something, a band should stop making music, are weird lol. They love making music, who cares if you don't like it? They'd still want to make music even if it made no money.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Aug 20, 2020, 05:26 PM
Finally listened to the song. At first I didn't like it, but about halfway into it I realised that was because it was completely different from what I expected. It's awesome, and to be honest it really does sound like Stef is maybe coming out of his safe/comfort zone, which isn't a bad thing, and just goes to show how much more invested he is this time around compared to Gore. It kind of reminds me of Rubicon, the closer of the album ending almost on a (sonically) high note? Either way, I'm excited!
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Holy shit that was awful. Riff is straight up CKY/Weezer but far less interesting/memorable. Vocals are straight out of Crosses, both melody and lyrics - very typical Chino. Artwork is tired and unimpressive. Song titles came out of a Deftones-song-title-generator. Time for Deftones to put more energy into rehashing their past (via reissues, behind the scenes content, documentary footage, etc.) and less energy into a craft that they are no longer masters of.
People like you who think that because they don't like something, a band should stop making music, are weird lol. They love making music, who cares if you don't like it? They'd still want to make music even if it made no money.
Yeah, that is always a weird take. "I don't like the new song. EnD DeFtOnEs nOw!"
Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
Having a different opinion doesn't mean he's wrong. TBH I wasn't completely disagreeing with everything he said on his Gore review.
Wavesthony Boredtano
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
It's clear he's an intelligent guy but I just rarely agree with any of his reviews. I feel the same way about the late Roger Ebert - a smart, thoughtful critic, but good lord did he pan a lot of great movies and praise a lot of crap. Y'all know this is just my opinion, right?
Is it called Error or Errorr?
How cool would it be for Chino to start singing his old screaming parts in the same style as he does on Ohms?
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 20, 2020, 05:36 PM
How cool would it be for Chino to start singing his old screaming parts in the same style as he does on Ohms?
so where is that nature cover art?
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Aug 20, 2020, 03:56 PM
hah, i just realized, I should be seeing Deftones tonight in Jersey. I guess a new single is an ok 2nd place trophy :-\
I hear you. I had meet & greet for last night in NYC. BEYOND BUMMED - But hearing this track today was a good comeback.
I'm totally getting a PALMS vibe from this one!
Beach related ;D
Quote from: nicklav on Aug 20, 2020, 04:12 PM
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 04:06 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
It's more KNY sounding for me
The "throoouuuggghhh" part at around 1:05 is kind of reminiscent to something on KNY for sure.
That part sounds like Future Warrior from the Palms album.
NAILED IT!
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 05:30 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
Having a different opinion doesn't mean he's wrong. TBH I wasn't completely disagreeing with everything he said on his Gore review.
Not talking about a difference of opinion though. You can like or dislike something as is your right. I'm saying I find a lot of his rock and metal reviews to be missing the mark in terms of what he focuses on, what he criticises, even what he praises, and I think he often shows a lack of understanding about what a lot of these bands are actually aiming for.
That's why I don't watch his reviews anymore,unless I'm just curious to know his take. I mean, he does repeatedly state that it's his opinion, and I agree with you on his lack of... I guess understanding the music? idk, some of the stuff he praises is not that great imo. He clearly isn't a fan of this type of music, it all depends where you lean more towards that shapes your individual opinions.
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 05:46 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 05:30 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
Having a different opinion doesn't mean he's wrong. TBH I wasn't completely disagreeing with everything he said on his Gore review.
Not talking about a difference of opinion though. You can like or dislike something as is your right. I'm saying I find a lot of his rock and metal reviews to be missing the mark in terms of what he focuses on, what he criticises, even what he praises, and I think he often shows a lack of understanding about what a lot of these bands are actually aiming for.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 05:38 PM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 20, 2020, 05:36 PM
How cool would it be for Chino to start singing his old screaming parts in the same style as he does on Ohms?
so where is that nature cover art?
When did I say that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaovZzt15vk
cool song Ohms is. i got a little cky feel from some of the riffs
Nice to see some of the longtime posters popping up - welcome, welcome!
"Album comes out on 9/25. Singles will be released this Friday and 9/4. Album artwork has nothing to do with eyes."
"Beach related is close"
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 20, 2020, 05:58 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 05:38 PM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 20, 2020, 05:36 PM
How cool would it be for Chino to start singing his old screaming parts in the same style as he does on Ohms?
so where is that nature cover art?
When did I say that?
Quote from: Draken on Aug 20, 2020, 05:53 PM
That's why I don't watch his reviews anymore,unless I'm just curious to know his take. I mean, he does repeatedly state that it's his opinion, and I agree with you on his lack of... I guess understanding the music? idk, some of the stuff he praises is not that great imo. He clearly isn't a fan of this type of music, it all depends where you lean more towards that shapes your individual opinions.
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Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
Having a different opinion doesn't mean he's wrong. TBH I wasn't completely disagreeing with everything he said on his Gore review.
Not talking about a difference of opinion though. You can like or dislike something as is your right. I'm saying I find a lot of his rock and metal reviews to be missing the mark in terms of what he focuses on, what he criticises, even what he praises, and I think he often shows a lack of understanding about what a lot of these bands are actually aiming for.
He's a fan of plenty of heavy bands. He rates/has rated bands like Converge, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Napalm Death, Daughters, and Nails pretty highly and consistently highly. But he has equally as many takes, specifically when it comes to heavy music, where I'm left kind of confused by how he came to certain conclusions. That being said, those bands are very different to Deftones of course, and he's never been extremely kind to Deftones in his reviews lol. Not that he hates them as far as I know, he's mentioned how he likes SNW in one of his reviews. I don't this track is going to do it for him though lol.
Guys, i'm weak. I couldn't wait anymore and finally listened to it and... Ohhh fuck me it's so GOOD!
Terry Date is finally back and you can clearly listen to it in the production/mix. It's unbelievable how he brings the best of Deftones, and I know it's only one song but it feels more "Deftones" than anything from Gore or KNY.
Also, I definitely hear how this song sounds like something from S/T or SNW era, and it's mainly because of Chino. Now, y'all see, since Diamond Eyes I felt that he slowly embraced the singing part of his voice and discarded the "performance" aspect of it. Here it seems he's finally mixing them both again and it sounds so freaking good.
He shat all over Acid Hologram, which is my favorite song from Gore. Therefore, I take what Fantano says with a grain of salt.
20 minutes until it's midnight here! Really torn about whether to listen to it when I get the full album especially since it's the final track on the album. Would it more sense to listen to it in that context versus listening to it as a single? But damn 25th Sept is a ways away. Goddamnit Deftones!
I find myself disagreeing with Fantano very often. I can't believe his review on HUM's latest.
Looking at the album art, the art of the deftones / gojira tour doesn't come to mind, this other image of Chi Cheng comes to mind
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/deftones-ohms-2020-deftonesworld.com_.jpg)
(https://i.dmtinc.cl/i/2020/08/20/12794704_10153392491375814_1355184216551944282_o07cd3cac75bb19e2.jpg)
:o
TBH, anything with eyes, which is 99.9% of humans, could come to mind.
Quote from: Draken on Aug 20, 2020, 06:06 PM
"Album comes out on 9/25. Singles will be released this Friday and 9/4. Album artwork has nothing to do with eyes."
"Beach related is close"
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Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 05:38 PM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 20, 2020, 05:36 PM
How cool would it be for Chino to start singing his old screaming parts in the same style as he does on Ohms?
so where is that nature cover art?
When did I say that?
Not referring to cover art.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 06:14 PM
TBH, anything with eyes, which is 99.9% of humans, could come to mind.
Haha!
When I was in my teens and 20's, I gravitated towards their darker, moodier sounding stuff - probably why ATF, WP and S/T have always been my favorite albums from them. I'll still always crave that sound, but now that I'm in my 30's and with the current shit state of the world, I do appreciate the upbeat vibe going on here. The riffs kinda makes me feel like I'm flying.
My only criticism with Ohms is it feels like it needs one more passage to make it feel a bit more epic and push it over the top. It would have been cool if it had a second bridge where the guitars dropped out for a moment so the synths and drums could get some time to shine (yeah, a breakdown lol). Overall, it's a solid song, but I do still kind of feel that it's "minor" Deftones.
yeah that picture matched up with Abe pretty well too
imagine being a music reviewer for a living jesus christ
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 20, 2020, 06:11 PM
I find myself disagreeing with Fantano very often. I can't believe his review on HUM's latest.
The one where he criticised that faultless guitar tone? Yeah lol.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 06:06 PM
He's a fan of plenty of heavy bands. He rates/has rated bands like Converge, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Napalm Death, Daughters, and Nails pretty highly and consistently highly.
He definitely likes the frenetic, more spastic stuff.
Quote from: ozzcar on Aug 20, 2020, 06:12 PM
Looking at the album art, the art of the deftones / gojira tour doesn't come to mind, this other image of Chi Cheng comes to mind
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/deftones-ohms-2020-deftonesworld.com_.jpg)
(https://i.dmtinc.cl/i/2020/08/20/12794704_10153392491375814_1355184216551944282_o07cd3cac75bb19e2.jpg)
:o
WOW...I think you're onto something there. Can't believe I didn't put it together.
You guys keep speculating about what the cover art reminds you of, but the true answer is right there in plain sight
(https://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mac.jpg)
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
Meanwhile Fantano gives the highest praise to shitty/mediocre rappers.
any interest in a tab for ohms? i'm playing some parts of it pretty decently in drop b tuning
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Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Fantano's an easy target but his rock and metal review are so often way off point, I can't really take him seriously with those bands. It surprises me he actually appreciates a great band like Code Orange because I find he's rarely on point with most other heavy stuff.
Meanwhile Fantano gives the highest praise to shitty/mediocre rappers.
I'm sure you'd make a great music reviewer with this way of thinking. Fantano praises bands/artist from all genre. You don't have to necessary agree with him, but his rap taste are pretty decent.
yessir, the song slaps, so much feels, DEFTONESPORVIDA
Quote from: ozzcar on Aug 20, 2020, 06:12 PM
Looking at the album art, the art of the deftones / gojira tour doesn't come to mind, this other image of Chi Cheng comes to mind
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/deftones-ohms-2020-deftonesworld.com_.jpg)
(https://i.dmtinc.cl/i/2020/08/20/12794704_10153392491375814_1355184216551944282_o07cd3cac75bb19e2.jpg)
:o
Oh shit... :o
"As we slip on throoooooough we promise toooo meet again SOMEWHERE"
That line hits me in the feels everytime...HYPED can't wait for Deftones to bless our ears with more
The cover art can be any guy/girl (don't kid yourself, its a a girl, don't forget its a deftones cover art) with make up, crying. Its not because Chi put make up once for a photo shoot that it means its him.
Probably wishful thinking here, but doesn't it sound like the song ends/fades out kind of abruptly? Maybe there's something after it on the album version?
Apple says it's 4:10 lol, so yeeeah, wishful thinking.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 07:02 PM
Probably wishful thinking here, but doesn't it sound like the song ends/fades out kind of abruptly? Maybe there's something after it on the album version?
Apple says it's 4:10 lol, so yeeeah, wishful thinking.
yeah wishful thinking. I wouldn't have mind that last riff to be repeated for another minute.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 07:00 PM
The cover art can be any guy/girl (don't kid yourself, its a a girl, don't forget its a deftones cover art) with make up, crying. Its not because Chi put make up once for a photo shoot that it means its him.
You could be right, but I do like the metaphor behind it: Chi lives on in their music.
This absolutely soars . I live on the West Coast and just got to listen to it. It's groovy as hell. This is the instrumental Deftones I have been craving. Glad the boys are back. 😎🍾🙌🏻💯👌
New press photo
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/1900x1900cc-60.jpg)
I wasn't expecting this kinda track at all but I'm glad about that.
Still getting the KNY vibes mostly. Reckon it'll round off the album well.
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New press photo
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/1900x1900cc-60.jpg)
Really cool pic. Looks like long hair Chino is starting to make a return.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 06:15 PM
My only criticism with Ohms is it feels like it needs one more passage to make it feel a bit more epic and push it over the top. It would have been cool if it had a second bridge where the guitars dropped out for a moment so the synths and drums could get some time to shine (yeah, a breakdown lol). Overall, it's a solid song, but I do still kind of feel that it's "minor" Deftones.
Agreed, the only bad thing about this song is that it's way too short. It sounds like it should be much longer.
Man the production is fucking killer...
listen to this on a stereo system then listen a song on Gore without changing anything... do it.
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New press photo
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/1900x1900cc-60.jpg)
Really cool pic. Looks like long hair Chino is starting to make a return.
Just spotted this pic on iTunes UK.
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New press photo
(https://www.deftonesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/1900x1900cc-60.jpg)
Really cool pic. Looks like long hair Chino is starting to make a return.
Just spotted this pic on iTunes UK.
Chino lookin in decent shape. cool pic
i'm kinda thinkin the whole Black Stallion thing isn't gonna happen. kinda like it didn't happen back in 2000. it would kinda be funny if it doesn't, just to relive it not happening yet again. wouldn't bother me either way
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
i'm kinda thinkin the whole Black Stallion thing isn't gonna happen. kinda like it didn't happen back in 2000. it would kinda be funny if it doesn't, just to relive it not happening yet again. wouldn't bother me either way
Don't worry, it's happening this year. I know it from a reliable source
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Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
i'm kinda thinkin the whole Black Stallion thing isn't gonna happen. kinda like it didn't happen back in 2000. it would kinda be funny if it doesn't, just to relive it not happening yet again. wouldn't bother me either way
Don't worry, it's happening this year. I know it from a reliable source
that's cool. is it gonna be like a bonus cd WP re-release sorta thing: or it's own single album. or nobody knows yet? sorry i should have put this in the black stallion topic
If it's a re-release deal, the most exciting thing would be The Boy's Republic being put on Spotify.
Hey first post!
My simple "Ohms" ratings :
Music - 7 >> Guitar sounds different to me, not the usual Deftones sound which is not bad, I like new things. Riff is great but a bit too catchy.
Lyrics - 8 >> Usual Chino lyrics, love them.
Variety/Risk - 6 >> There are no great variations during the whole song, a bit repetitive.
Voice - 7 >> Comfortable for Chino, sounds good.
Overall the song is around a 7 to me. I like it but it is not revolutionary. I am afraid the catchiness will tire me sooner than I hope. We will see.
Artwork - 5 >> Sorry, I don't really like it. Not really my thing.
Really eager to listen to the full album!
Really excited they are back and we all are back! I'm getting a real summer vibe almost off it. I love it though. It's super upbeat. It just sounds like 2020 Deftones to me. Chino can absolutely nail this live no problem.
Love the new promo pic as well. They all look great. Back at it for one more record baby let's do this
Theory: This Link Is Dead is an explicit song according to Apple Music. When Chino curses, it usually comes in a scream. Therefore, This Link Is Dead will be heavy.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 07:42 PM
Theory: This Link Is Dead is an explicit song according to Apple Music. When Chino curses, it usually comes in a scream. Therefore, This Link Is Dead will be heavy.
I wonder if it is one of the ones you have heard.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 07:42 PM
Theory: This Link Is Dead is an explicit song according to Apple Music. When Chino curses, it usually comes in a scream. Therefore, This Link Is Dead will be heavy.
I back this theory
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 07:42 PM
Theory: This Link Is Dead is an explicit song according to Apple Music. When Chino curses, it usually comes in a scream. Therefore, This Link Is Dead will be heavy.
I wonder if it is one of the ones you have heard.
It is.
I'll just say... Ohms and Radiant City are the only names that haven't been around.
Quote from: trolles on Aug 20, 2020, 07:39 PM
Riff is great but a bit too catchy.
My own summer has the catchiest riffs and its up there with one of their best.
I really disagree with this song being too catchy. I borderline feel it's not catchy enough for a single to become a hit, which I personally don't care.
there's no way this is a top 10 deftones riff. come on u guys.
I have not heard This Link Is Dead. They talk about the one I raved about in the Kerrang article. ;)
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 08:04 PM
I have not heard This Link Is Dead. They talk about the one I raved about in the Kerrang article. ;)
If you heard everything Chino played on his live stream, yes you did, but if you didn't then, he played a part of it.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 08:01 PM
I really disagree with this song being too catchy. I borderline feel it's not catchy enough for a single to become a hit, which I personally don't care.
I don't know, it was too easy for me to get into the song, that is not usually the case with Deftones. I hope I am wrong and the song grows on me instead of becoming boring.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 08:04 PM
I have not heard This Link Is Dead. They talk about the one I raved about in the Kerrang article. ;)
Genesis??
The riffs and time signature changes are blowing my mind
I hope Genesis or This Link is Dead are the 2nd single if there will be a second one in 2-3 weeks
Seems in the Kerang piece it was mentioned the first track was incredible.
So at midnight in any given time zone the single will be on Spotify?
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 20, 2020, 08:20 PM
Seems in the Kerang piece it was mentioned the first track was incredible.
So at midnight in any given time zone the single will be on Spotify?
Midnight in your timezone I think... I don't know if it's the same for the US or if the US is just midnight edt for the whole country.
For me that would be 1am edt
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 20, 2020, 08:21 PM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 20, 2020, 08:20 PM
Seems in the Kerang piece it was mentioned the first track was incredible.
So at midnight in any given time zone the single will be on Spotify?
Midnight in your timezone I think... I don't know if it's the same for the US or if the US is just midnight edt for the whole country.
For me that would be 1am edt
Thanks Brother! Just loaded the app, so technically challenged it kills me. Will it be on iTunes for purchase as part of the Album pre-order I wonder?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 20, 2020, 08:21 PM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 20, 2020, 08:20 PM
Seems in the Kerang piece it was mentioned the first track was incredible.
So at midnight in any given time zone the single will be on Spotify?
Midnight in your timezone I think... I don't know if it's the same for the US or if the US is just midnight edt for the whole country.
For me that would be 1am edt
For new releases on Spotify, they release at 12am EDT all across the US. I know, because I'll usually listen to a new album at around 9pm the night before it drops.
So in other words, the single should be up on Spotify in about 7 and a half hours
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Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 20, 2020, 08:21 PM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 20, 2020, 08:20 PM
Seems in the Kerang piece it was mentioned the first track was incredible.
So at midnight in any given time zone the single will be on Spotify?
Midnight in your timezone I think... I don't know if it's the same for the US or if the US is just midnight edt for the whole country.
For me that would be 1am edt
For new releases on Spotify, they release at 12am EDT all across the US. I know, because I'll usually listen to a new album at around 9pm the night before it drops.
Same with Apple Music. I've always got stuff at 10pm mountain time the night before.
Appreciate you fellas, love this board!
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Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 08:01 PM
I really disagree with this song being too catchy. I borderline feel it's not catchy enough for a single to become a hit, which I personally don't care.
I don't know, it was too easy for me to get into the song, that is not usually the case with Deftones. I hope I am wrong and the song grows on me instead of becoming boring.
I felt like that with Swerve City when i first listened to it, and still feel like the same about it. The melody and riff was so much simpler than on this song.
I'm really enjoying the track so far but very bummed that they gave us the album closer as a single. That just doesn't make any sense.
Swerve City has grown on me A LOT, especially within the last year or so. I used to think it was kind of an underwhelming opener, but I find myself throwing it on much more, more often than a track like say Diamond Eyes, which in contrast I loved at the time it came out. I think I just realized I'm not a big fan of that bouncy opening riff on Swerve City, but I've come to realize that I literally love every other part of that song.
Quote from: E-Money on Aug 20, 2020, 08:38 PM
I'm really enjoying the track so far but very bummed that they gave us the album closer as a single. That just doesn't make any sense.
Same. One of the most exciting parts of a new Deftones record for me is getting to that last track at the end of a full listen.
Quote from: ozzcar on Aug 20, 2020, 06:12 PM
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(https://i.dmtinc.cl/i/2020/08/20/12794704_10153392491375814_1355184216551944282_o07cd3cac75bb19e2.jpg)
This is so on point. The only attempt at cracking that convinces me tbh
This Link is Dead - This Place is Death
Radiant City - Swerve City
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Quote from: ozzcar on Aug 20, 2020, 06:12 PM
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(https://i.dmtinc.cl/i/2020/08/20/12794704_10153392491375814_1355184216551944282_o07cd3cac75bb19e2.jpg)
This is so on point. The only attempt at cracking that convinces me tbh
I saw this one on Reddit and I haven't been able to look at the cover art any other way since..
Quote from: E-Money on Aug 20, 2020, 08:38 PM
I'm really enjoying the track so far but very bummed that they gave us the album closer as a single. That just doesn't make any sense.
I've actually seen this become a trend for the last few years bands to drop the closer as a single, at least with a lot of bands I listen to. Usually I'm against it because the last track tends to be the most cinematic and adventurous on most albums, so it definitely softens the blow of an album when it drops. But it might not be to bad in this case. As someone pointed out before, I could see this song as being more of an "epilogue", like it might follow the song that is the true gargantuan song in the track list (so maybe that's what Headless will be?).
I think Abe also hinted at that in the Kerrang article:
"There always is," admits Abe, solemnly. "He's a source of inspiration who is thought about daily. He's always around."
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Quote from: E-Money on Aug 20, 2020, 08:38 PM
I'm really enjoying the track so far but very bummed that they gave us the album closer as a single. That just doesn't make any sense.
Same. One of the most exciting parts of a new Deftones record for me is getting to that last track at the end of a full listen.
Exactly. Their album closers are the most important songs to me and have been my favorite songs on the last six records. And I'm not saying this is a bad album closer. I just did not want to hear this first. It's a gorgeous song. Chorus is absolutely beautiful. Chino sounds very innocent I love it. Almost like some of the softer parts on around the fur. I'm even getting A little bit of the boys Republic chorus ... This really shows how bad the production was on Gore. Which is a shame.
Yeah, imagine if Terry produced Gore. People would be raving about it.
Edited 8)
Check ther social media. A video for Ohms is coming soon as well
the new Ohms video premiers in 7 hours on youtube
"Urantia" as the name of the planet Earth and states that its intent is to "present enlarged concepts and advanced truth."
Well technically he hasn't said 'Earth' yet...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEIA03mHQqk/
So, I'm guessing their website will be updated within the next day with preorders. The merch bundles should be interesting.
Quote from: mrpelon94 on Aug 20, 2020, 08:53 PM
the new Ohms video premiers in 7 hours on youtube
really they made a video for it?
I wish they would do covers and b-sides again for this release.
Ves, your post has me so fucking hyped I can't believe it. I think the same things about DE KNY Gore so that's real exciting.
Quote from: Draken on Aug 20, 2020, 08:59 PM
I wish they would do covers and b-sides again for this release.
They might still, we don't know for sure.
This is the kind of visual that always came to mind when I listened to Moana
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 08:54 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEIA03mHQqk/
Official music video for "Ohms."
Join us:
21:00 Los Angeles
23:00 Mexico City
00:00 New York City
01:00 São Paulo
05:00 London
06:00 Berlin
@
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDbj0oeAj0
Id guess midnight edt website update
If Ohms is the Moana of this album then we are in for a real treat.
@Vesanic your post has me super stoked to hear the rest of this album.
Simple question for those who heard "the leaks" - is OHMS the top tier song on the record ? Or are there some gems which will blow our minds ?
I'm asking because I'm a bit surprised they choose Ohms as a single. Nothing against the song, it's great and mostly probably I will fall in love with that song in few years :D But comparing to all other first singles...it's just "OK".
Their videos are the one aspect of Deftones I never really care about seeing. Maybe this one will be alright.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 20, 2020, 08:59 PM
Quote from: mrpelon94 on Aug 20, 2020, 08:53 PM
the new Ohms video premiers in 7 hours on youtube
really they made a video for it?
I doubt it'll be a performance video.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
Simply question for those who heard "the leaks" - is OHMS the top tier song on the record ? Or are there some gems which will blow our minds ?
I'm asking because I'm a bit surprised they choose Ohms as a single. Nothing against the song, it's great and mostly probably I will fall in love with that song in few years :D But comparing to all other first singles...it's just "OK".
It is not. And that's not a bad thing. I love Ohms, but it's not top tier, at least for me.
Quote from: Draken on Aug 20, 2020, 08:59 PM
I wish they would do covers and b-sides again for this release.
oh i know, we haven't gotten a proper b-side since "lovers" in 2003. there was supposedly one for Diamond eyes, "crest", but i guess it was never properly recorded/mixed/mastered. Vesanic heard them jamming it in warm up before a show, if i remember correctly. that's about all we know of it. i don't count consider "smile" a b-side. since it's part of Eros. give us a new b-side fellas, it's going on 20 years!
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
Simply question for those who heard "the leaks" - is OHMS the top tier song on the record ? Or are there some gems which will blow our minds ?
I'm asking because I'm a bit surprised they choose Ohms as a single. Nothing against the song, it's great and mostly probably I will fall in love with that song in few years :D But comparing to all other first singles...it's just "OK".
Ohms was one of my least favourites probably. And I love it.
I know the passages Ves is talking about btw (I think we might have discussed them weeks ago via PM?)
Yea time won't change tho... it's promise we made...
Love the way that line lays on top of the music. Really beautiful stuff. It's like up beat and groovy as hell but still kinda has that hopeless feel to it... like something is bothering Chino. What a great day!!
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 09:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
Simply question for those who heard "the leaks" - is OHMS the top tier song on the record ? Or are there some gems which will blow our minds ?
I'm asking because I'm a bit surprised they choose Ohms as a single. Nothing against the song, it's great and mostly probably I will fall in love with that song in few years :D But comparing to all other first singles...it's just "OK".
Ohms was one of my least favourites probably. And I love it.
I know the passages Ves is talking about btw (I think we might have discussed them weeks ago via PM?)
Yes. And I agree about Ohms. Strong song, it's just such a weird pick. It feels as if they chose Moana to promote the S/T.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
Simple question for those who heard "the leaks" - is OHMS the top tier song on the record ? Or are there some gems which will blow our minds ?
I'm asking because I'm a bit surprised they choose Ohms as a single. Nothing against the song, it's great and mostly probably I will fall in love with that song in few years :D But comparing to all other first singles...it's just "OK".
The other songs sound almost nothing like this so don't worry. Even though Ohms is good, there are way more standouts in other tracks
Quote from: E-Money on Aug 20, 2020, 09:10 PM
Yea time won't change tho... it's promise we made...
Love the way that line lays on top of the music. Really beautiful stuff. It's like up beat and groovy as hell but still kinda has that hopeless feel to it... like something is bothering Chino. What a great day!!
My favourite part of the song. Chino, Abe, Stef and Sergio all go in on that part. Gets me so hyped.
When they talked about covering Elvis I was like... um.. but then I realized that might be dope. Then they were like "nah, fans expect that shit so we're not doing it" and I was super bummed. Lovers was awesome, I would LOVE to hear Crest. DE had some really cool covers, what would you all like to hear them cover?
I feel this is the most often I've seen drop-dead online since I first found out about this board ;D
Its all an illusion 😉
It's a pretty special time, over ten years since Chi's accident, Terry Date is back, talks of WP remix album and Eros EP.
As for covers, this has Deftones and Chino written ALL OVER IT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1dsrTg1fAY
They picked the right song to open the album with. that's all.
Edit: I think it's the closest song to sound like lovers... And I love it for that.
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 20, 2020, 09:12 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Aug 20, 2020, 09:10 PM
Yea time won't change tho... it's promise we made...
Love the way that line lays on top of the music. Really beautiful stuff. It's like up beat and groovy as hell but still kinda has that hopeless feel to it... like something is bothering Chino. What a great day!!
My favourite part of the song. Chino, Abe, Stef and Sergio all go in on that part. Gets me so hyped.
Hell yea man love it!! Also love the tempo change in the intro and that first major snare hit!! Hello Terry 😈
Great day full of news, tracklist, single and video premiere. Now all we need are bundles and hopefully with it some bonus tracks. The only kinda meh or negative thing about this new album is the artwork that in my honest opinion seems like a 10 years old made it, with that said I hope I'm not ruining anyone's parade.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
Simple question for those who heard "the leaks" - is OHMS the top tier song on the record ? Or are there some gems which will blow our minds ?
I'm asking because I'm a bit surprised they choose Ohms as a single. Nothing against the song, it's great and mostly probably I will fall in love with that song in few years :D But comparing to all other first singles...it's just "OK".
I love the new track. LOVE it. Maybe my 2nd fav single/song drop of the Sergio era, 2nd to Leathers.
That said, I would say it does not fully represent the album (one Deftones song never would anyways). For those wondering/hoping for those dark sounds everyone has been mentioning....they are there. And they will be glorious. No one knows how anyone else will feel about the new album. That said, I think it's reasonable for you all to get pretty hyped for this album ;)
Agreed! Really hoping for a "deluxe" edition like with Diamond Eyes. Extra tracks/Covers whatever!
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
Simple question for those who heard "the leaks" - is OHMS the top tier song on the record ? Or are there some gems which will blow our minds ?
I'm asking because I'm a bit surprised they choose Ohms as a single. Nothing against the song, it's great and mostly probably I will fall in love with that song in few years :D But comparing to all other first singles...it's just "OK".
Like I said before - you ain't heard NOTHING yet.
Ya'll stop making my nipples hard.
Oof you're making the month long wait unbearable!
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Aug 20, 2020, 09:28 PM
Great day full of news, tracklist, single and video premiere. Now all we need are bundles and hopefully with it some bonus tracks. The only kinda meh or negative thing about this new album is the artwork that in my honest opinion seems like a 10 years old made it, with that said I hope I'm not ruining anyone's parade.
I'd love a deluxe version with the two leftover songs as bonus tracks, but I doubt it. I think Deftones are really a "what you see is what you get" kinda band.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 09:47 PM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Aug 20, 2020, 09:28 PM
Great day full of news, tracklist, single and video premiere. Now all we need are bundles and hopefully with it some bonus tracks. The only kinda meh or negative thing about this new album is the artwork that in my honest opinion seems like a 10 years old made it, with that said I hope I'm not ruining anyone's parade.
I'd love a deluxe version with the two leftover songs as bonus tracks, but I doubt it. I think Deftones are really a "what you see is what you get" kinda band.
I don't know, at least half the albums have had hidden tracks, b-sides, and/or covers of some sort or another. That hasn't been the trend lately but maybe they've gone back.
This teasing ia *chefkiss*
What a great day! New deftones music, video coming at midnight, Miami Heat beat the Indiana Pacers. Doesn't get any better then this friends!
I'm excited to hear Radiant City. Swerve City is my favorite Deftones song title ever. So much so, it has been my gamertag since the moment I saw it. Ugh I can't wait!!
this one only has 10 tracks. all the others have 11 or more. i want my extra 1 track, i'm entitled! me me me, i i i!!
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 20, 2020, 06:25 PM
You guys keep speculating about what the cover art reminds you of, but the true answer is right there in plain sight
(https://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mac.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 20, 2020, 10:34 PM
I'm excited to hear Radiant City. Swerve City is my favorite Deftones song title ever. So much so, it has been my gamertag since the moment I saw it. Ugh I can't wait!!
Swerve City is their catchiest song by far, I still remember hearing their little teaser for it and getting hyped about it.
Based purely on song title alone, what songs are you all most excited about hearing? For me, Pompeji and This Link is Dead. Pompeji just sounds cool, and This Link is Dead reminds me of This Place Is Death and (L)MIRL (the latter being one of my favourite ever Deftones songs).
Can't wait to see which of the ten tracks gets a beer named after them by Belching Beaver.
Swerve City was my fave, but I haven't been able to locate Digital Bath or Dia just yet.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Aug 20, 2020, 10:49 PM
Can't wait to see which of the ten tracks gets a beer named after them by Belching Beaver.
Swerve City was my fave, but I haven't been able to locate Digital Bath or Dia just yet.
Can't get Belching Beaver beers on the east coast. Every time I go to Phoenix or LA (which is a few times a year), I fly a 6 pack of phantom bride in the carry-on back with me. I've never seen any of the other ones. I swear I went to 10+ spots looking for the Swerve City beer with no luck
midnight UK but no release yet :(
I assume you all know but the music vid is on youtube, premieres in 5 hours
Finally heard the single on Spotify. It's excellent. The section before the repeated intro riff at the end legit made me smile.
whats your time zone ves?
BST (London)
Hmm yeah same what the hell
Can you send the song link?
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Aug 20, 2020, 10:54 PM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Aug 20, 2020, 10:49 PM
Can't wait to see which of the ten tracks gets a beer named after them by Belching Beaver.
Swerve City was my fave, but I haven't been able to locate Digital Bath or Dia just yet.
Can't get Belching Beaver beers on the east coast. Every time I go to Phoenix or LA (which is a few times a year), I fly a 6 pack of phantom bride in the carry-on back with me. I've never seen any of the other ones. I swear I went to 10+ spots looking for the Swerve City beer with no luck
I'm on East Coast (Philly). I've ordered from Craftshack.com . I also have a friend in San Diego who will picks things up and mail them to me.
Gone midnight here. Night everyone, it's been a great week. See you all tomorrow for the inevitably mediocre music video 8)
I couldn't find it either I had to ask for the link. Check your inbox in a couple secs
Quote from: B_S_79 on Aug 20, 2020, 11:16 PM
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Aug 20, 2020, 10:54 PM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Aug 20, 2020, 10:49 PM
Can't wait to see which of the ten tracks gets a beer named after them by Belching Beaver.
Swerve City was my fave, but I haven't been able to locate Digital Bath or Dia just yet.
Can't get Belching Beaver beers on the east coast. Every time I go to Phoenix or LA (which is a few times a year), I fly a 6 pack of phantom bride in the carry-on back with me. I've never seen any of the other ones. I swear I went to 10+ spots looking for the Swerve City beer with no luck
I'm on East Coast (Philly). I've ordered from Craftshack.com . I also have a friend in San Diego who will picks things up and mail them to me.
oh, nice. Thanks for the tip. I'll check them out
I'm UK and have it on YouTube music now (was Google play music) and can see it on normal YouTube.
This sounds so much better than that leak... Can play it LOUD! Stef is a beast 😆
That picture from the video has me hyped. Looks like we're in store for some nice surrealist imagery.
so who in europe has a qobuz account, i need that 24 bit single. its only 3 euros, ill transfer by paypal. fucking qobuz wont process my payments for being outside the EU. who says i?
Quote from: Shells on Aug 20, 2020, 11:20 PM
I'm UK and have it on YouTube music now (was Google play music) and can see it on normal YouTube.
This sounds so much better than that leak... Can play it LOUD! Stef is a beast
the leaked .flac version is perfect.
but i guess you were talking about the older leak?
i desagree the link flac is clipping af when i run it through the daw. plus it aint 24bit.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 20, 2020, 11:29 PM
Quote from: Shells on Aug 20, 2020, 11:20 PM
I'm UK and have it on YouTube music now (was Google play music) and can see it on normal YouTube.
This sounds so much better than that leak... Can play it LOUD! Stef is a beast
the leaked .flac version is perfect.
but i guess you were talking about the older leak?
Nah I didn't use the flac just the mp3. Official release feels much nicer to listen to though. Maybe it's just cos it feels real now ;D
Quote from: Slacker on Aug 20, 2020, 11:32 PM
i desagree the link flac is clipping af when i run it through the daw. plus it aint 24bit.
and somehow it sounds a million time better than official versions of gore
Kerrang review of the single:
https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-first-reaction-to-deftones-new-song-ohms/
I ain't gonna lie.. the song is mixed LOUD.. but hopefully the 24bit tracks are a little less loud.
(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118272309_3521992577819342_7294164769697380454_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=MRTbY2ALZosAX-CFcr5&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=fe090ecaa31814d0c35e006ff6484412&oe=5F652E92)
Yeah, I think it's Chi for sure.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 11:40 PM
Kerrang review of the single:
https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-first-reaction-to-deftones-new-song-ohms/
Great read. Love their enthusiasm
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 11:40 PM
Kerrang review of the single:
https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-first-reaction-to-deftones-new-song-ohms/
tbh chino could fart and kerrang would say its the best aroma they ever smell.
Oh my, high res.... This is a bit special.
You can purchase the single on Qobuz (on Friday)
https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/ohms-deftones/znsovz2phesna?fbclid=IwAR1R__edxKFMLBT2-LGQpqGPGOwAVyBEIf6TqST87kJ3KlaWjty5T136wws
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 11:58 PM
Yeah, I think it's Chi for sure.
💯 and even if it's not it is to us and that's all that matters. That's why I love What Happened to You so much... it's 100% about Chi and meeting him again in time. Absolutely love it.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 08:54 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEIA03mHQqk/
Directed by a colombian.
Oh, hi!
The track is brilliant.
Im just going around my neighborhood driving slamming it in the car. I'm just so pleased with the production.
Terry really reigns in the beautiful nuances from each member, whilst REALLY serving the actual song. I just haven't felt that captured in a long time, especially in the last few albums.
Im actually getting a massive ATF vibe from the mix.
And i love how chino isnt draped in reverb or delay or over the top layering. Its just right, and his melodies just swoop in and out of the gazing riffs.
FUCK YEAH. Im so amped for this album.
10 times more than i was after hearing P/T.
I really love the track, amazing riff, Chino does a great job on the vocals, the production is awesome, it really feels like Terry Date's hand. Vega's bass sound is very felt.
I couldn't be happier, it really is a great first release and a very good pick as a single.
The album promises a lot, I feel like there is a return to the roots without losing sight of doing different things. There is an incredible progression and maturity in the sound.
The 24bit is another thing, thanks a lot @slacker!
3D AND 2D animation in the video... interesting.. I guess being stuck at home could do that lol
The canvas for Ohms on Spotify has previews for the video and looks absolutely sick.
Quote from: luisch on Aug 21, 2020, 01:02 AM
I really love the track, amazing riff, Chino does a great job on the vocals, the production is awesome, it really feels like Terry Date's hand. Vega's bass sound is very felt.
I couldn't be happier, it really is a great first release and a very good pick as a single.
The album promises a lot, I feel like there is a return to the roots without losing sight of doing different things. There is an incredible progression and maturity in the sound.
The 24bit is another thing, thanks a lot @slacker!
Luisch? That's a name I remember seeing a lot when I registered! The only one I haven't seen is From_Musings. Otherwise just about everyone has chimed in. At least from when I started which wasn't that long ago. It's awesome!
Damn so much happening I can't seem to keep up! Very excited though and wondering what kind of bundles they may put up for pre-order or not put up due to Covid shit and putting out any vinyl might be an issue and major delay. I saw someone mention that a textured album art vinyl release would be tight I second that. Really fun time to be a hardcore fan much respect from a insane long time lurker to all you fools. Always fun to see how many people post when new info like this pops up honestly really great to watch everyone talk it up.
Joe!
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
Track times showing up on Qobus
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 01:33 AM
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
Track times showing up on Qobus
46:10. how does it compare with the other albums?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 01:33 AM
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
Track times showing up on Qobus
Nice find. Run time comes to 44 minutes and 17 seconds, if I have my spell of mathematics right. It's their second shortest album after DE.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 01:41 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 01:33 AM
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
Track times showing up on Qobus
Nice find. Run time comes to 44 minutes and 17 seconds, if I have my spell of mathematics right. It's their second shortest album after DE.
I see what ya did there
long tracks baybeee
by their standards, i mean
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 21, 2020, 01:42 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 01:41 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 01:33 AM
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
Track times showing up on Qobus
Nice find. Run time comes to 44 minutes and 17 seconds, if I have my spell of mathematics right. It's their second shortest album after DE.
I see what ya did there
(https://www.dvdizzy.com/images/s/spiderman3-02.jpg)
;D
(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118075820_3301417646584431_801868487846238865_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=TC7UKZvDlrkAX8eZp_z&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=d4d37d8ac5ea04fcb57a59287b6832a6&oe=5F65AC9E)
FINALLY...I CAN SAY....TWO MORE HOURS!
Dos horas mas?
si
I'm looking for someone willing to look for the OG two more hours, I need to know who unknowingly instigated this
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 21, 2020, 02:00 AM
FINALLY...I CAN SAY....TWO MORE HOURS!
Finally! What a glorious day!
With all the hype about Steph being more on board I was really hoping for something way more riff heavy throughout the whole first single. The first main riff of Ohms also kind of reminds me of Witchy Woman by the Eagles. Ohms isn't a horrible song. But also not blown away by Ohms and wanting to keep playing it over and over.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:06 AM
I'm looking for someone willing to look for the OG two more hours, I need to know who unknowingly instigated this
This is the earliest one I can find
https://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,19909.msg794150.html#msg794150
There is an A+ quality meme at the top of Deftones reddit right now 😂
lol nah man that shit goes way back. It originated when they were releasing SNW
You're looking for posts from circa 2006 and no I'm not willing to look lol
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 02:14 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:06 AM
I'm looking for someone willing to look for the OG two more hours, I need to know who unknowingly instigated this
This is the earliest one I can find
https://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,19909.msg794150.html#msg794150
I seem to recall it became a thing during the DE cycle
Was it?? I could swear SNW.. because of the hiatus of that album. People like tokydrifter kept saying shit like 2 more hours and nothing happening.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:18 AM
I seem to recall it became a thing during the DE cycle
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 21, 2020, 02:15 AM
There is an A+ quality meme at the top of Deftones reddit right now 😂
LMAO holy shit that's great
"2 More hours" definitely started just before the drop of leathers, I remember it so well.
I swear there were tweets and info swirling all around mentioning the new single drop, and the time would change constantly.
It was either DE or KNY. I think it was DE.
tokyodrifter joined in 2015 before Gore dropped, he caught on the joke once
I'm not sure who was saying it but it was an "insider" telling all of us "2 more hours" until it became a joke. Of course, now we know the story of why SNW took so damn long to come out.
This is totally my fanboy bias talking, but the one thing I want to see even more than Ohms getting a high score on Metacritic is for it to take the number one album of 2020 on sputnikmusic:
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/best/albums/2020/
They are pretty highly regarded on that site by most of the users so we'll see. The #1 album they have to beat has a 4.2 score, so I think they have a good shot.
Quote from: Playhouse on Aug 21, 2020, 02:23 AM
"2 More hours" definitely started just before the drop of leathers, I remember it so well.
I swear there were tweets and info swirling all around mentioning the new single drop, and the time would change constantly.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:24 AM
It was either DE or KNY. I think it was DE.
tokyodrifter joined in 2015 before Gore dropped, he caught on the joke once
I now feel inclined to search haha
I don't know if they were supposed to yet or not, but a local music chain near me put up pre-orders for the album and I just ordered the indie limited edition gold colored vinyl :)
Playhouse might be right
Quote from: dearthx1 on Aug 21, 2020, 02:30 AM
I don't know if they were supposed to yet or not, but a local music chain near me put up pre-orders for the album and I just ordered the indie limited edition gold colored vinyl :)
A local music chain?
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:30 AM
Playhouse might be right
Quote from: dearthx1 on Aug 21, 2020, 02:30 AM
I don't know if they were supposed to yet or not, but a local music chain near me put up pre-orders for the album and I just ordered the indie limited edition gold colored vinyl :)
A local music chain?
Yeah, a place called Bullmoose music. It's a New England chain. Here's the link: https://www.bullmoose.com/search?q=deftones%20ohms&so=0&page=1
Found the link but it doesn't work for me
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 02:25 AM
This is totally my fanboy bias talking, but the one thing I want to see even more than Ohms getting a high score on Metacritic is for it to take the number one album of 2020 on sputnikmusic:
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/best/albums/2020/
They are pretty highly regarded on that site by most of the users so we'll see. The #1 album they have to beat has a 4.2 score, so I think they have a good shot.
Yeah I'd love that. They do have one of the most consistent discographies on there. Multiple 4s. WP is sitting on 4.4 which is a rare rating by far
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 21, 2020, 02:39 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 02:25 AM
This is totally my fanboy bias talking, but the one thing I want to see even more than Ohms getting a high score on Metacritic is for it to take the number one album of 2020 on sputnikmusic:
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/best/albums/2020/
They are pretty highly regarded on that site by most of the users so we'll see. The #1 album they have to beat has a 4.2 score, so I think they have a good shot.
Yeah I'd love that. They do have one of the most consistent discographies on there. Multiple 4s. WP is sitting on 4.4 which is a rare rating by far
You haven't seen consistent rankings on that site until you search for Chevelle. They even have a joke in their band description for it.
I like gold vinyl but it seems like everyone does that now... hopefully we'll see some cool color variants.
Quote from: Draken on Aug 21, 2020, 02:24 AM
I'm not sure who was saying it but it was an "insider" telling all of us "2 more hours" until it became a joke. Of course, now we know the story of why SNW took so damn long to come out.
lol thats right!
Got the indie exclusive in the cart. To pull the trigger now or wait to see what the Deftones store site offers.. 🤔
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 21, 2020, 02:46 AM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 21, 2020, 02:39 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 02:25 AM
This is totally my fanboy bias talking, but the one thing I want to see even more than Ohms getting a high score on Metacritic is for it to take the number one album of 2020 on sputnikmusic:
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/best/albums/2020/
They are pretty highly regarded on that site by most of the users so we'll see. The #1 album they have to beat has a 4.2 score, so I think they have a good shot.
Yeah I'd love that. They do have one of the most consistent discographies on there. Multiple 4s. WP is sitting on 4.4 which is a rare rating by far
You haven't seen consistent rankings on that site until you search for Chevelle. They even have a joke in their band description for it.
I gotta check that out lol
terry date, man
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 02:47 AM
I like gold vinyl but it seems like everyone does that now... hopefully we'll see some cool color variants.
Gotta love those single LP prices though amirite? With that said the label will likely post there's for $30+ and we'll still eat it up without hesitation.
Quote from: Playhouse on Aug 21, 2020, 02:23 AM
"2 More hours" definitely started just before the drop of leathers, I remember it so well.
I swear there were tweets and info swirling all around mentioning the new single drop, and the time would change constantly.
This is correct. It was maddening.
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 21, 2020, 03:01 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 02:47 AM
I like gold vinyl but it seems like everyone does that now... hopefully we'll see some cool color variants.
Gotta love those single LP prices though amirite? With that said the label will likely post there's for $30+ and we'll still eat it up without hesitation.
I'll probably be paying $50CDN to get one in Canada... so :(
Happy new year, guys. This is our time.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 03:08 AM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Aug 21, 2020, 03:01 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 02:47 AM
I like gold vinyl but it seems like everyone does that now... hopefully we'll see some cool color variants.
Gotta love those single LP prices though amirite? With that said the label will likely post there's for $30+ and we'll still eat it up without hesitation.
I'll probably be paying $50CDN to get one in Canada... so :(
That's a bummer...
2 more hours?
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Aug 21, 2020, 03:02 AM
Quote from: Playhouse on Aug 21, 2020, 02:23 AM
"2 More hours" definitely started just before the drop of leathers, I remember it so well.
I swear there were tweets and info swirling all around mentioning the new single drop, and the time would change constantly.
This is correct. It was maddening.
Yep, that's right! 10 minutes...
Feels like Christmas when I was a kid right now lol.
I know most of you guys have heard the track but I expect a few more pages before the night is done here in The States...
Quote from: glassdomino on Aug 21, 2020, 02:59 AM
terry date, man
I know man. listen to acid hologram and then listen to ohms. The difference is unbelievable.
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 21, 2020, 03:53 AM
Quote from: glassdomino on Aug 21, 2020, 02:59 AM
terry date, man
I know man. listen to acid hologram and then listen to ohms. The difference is unbelievable.
Hearing Abe's snare was like finding an old friend again.
I'm excited they're doing a proper music video. They generally wait till after album release for full music videos. Man what a good day.
I'M ABOUT TO CUM
The spotify visualizer for Ohms is sick!
Love the imagery of the video.
Awesome video, loving the futuristic imagery. Probably one of their better ones. I wonder when they filmed it.
Website down
BEST.DEFTONES.VIDEO.EVER.
That was pretty damn good.
the video was dope af...i want to hear more!!!!!
Loved that.
Feels like there's a lot more, I dunno, commitment to pushing this album? The teaser, that sick ass video.
Stef back in full force. Digging this hard.
Quote from: Vanby on Aug 21, 2020, 04:09 AM
Loved that.
Feels like there's a lot more, I dunno, commitment to pushing this album? The teaser, that sick ass video.
Stef back in full force. Digging this hard.
For sure. Warner Bros stepped it up this time around. About time they put some respekt on Deftones' name!
really good video. one of their best based off my first watch. really cool imagery. got a bit of a Phantasm vibe from it. they usually just phone it in with videos, but not this one. this is really cool
i note
The imagery for Ohms is so spectacular. Much more detail and effort placed in it than I think we've seen from the band (in terms of music videos) in a while. I'm gonna have this on repeat!
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
Some of the bundles come with a zine. Hmmm...
Kudos to all these talented people who worked on the Ohms video:
Live Performance and Direction: Clemente Ruiz
Directed by rafatoon
Production Company: dreambear
Executive Producer: Evan Brown and Dave Gelb
3D Direction by Andres4d
Vfx Production: TunjaYork
3D Team: Andres4d, Santiago Peña, Omar Galvis, Daniel Guarin
Edit: rafatoon and David Bautista
Composition: rafatoon and Andres4d
2D Animation: Camilo Leal
Video Commissioner: Devin Sarno
Well done.
Great music video! I told you guys they're fish swimming in the art work and in the video I saw a fish! Three time emmy winner here. I know how to look at things, You're welcome!
Damn, think that's their best music video. Certainly one of their best. I do love the more simple ones too though, like BQAD.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:14 AM
Some of the bundles come with a zine. Hmmm...
Edit: never mind, misunderstood your comment.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
I didn't dig the art that much at first, but its really grown on me now. It looks fantastic on the merch.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
Done.
Got that clear vinyl + Zine bundle
Man that knocked it out of the park. God damn I love good art . What a glorious day. 🙌🏻 This is OUR Time!!!
im not seeing shit for a preorder on itunes
By the way, what is a Zine? Like a magazine?
Quote from: E-Money on Aug 21, 2020, 04:20 AM
Man that knocked it out of the park. God damn I love good art . What a glorious day. 🙌🏻 This is OUR Time!!!
My boy, fuck yes!
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
I didn't dig the art that much at first, but its really grown on me now. It looks fantastic on the merch.
it's growing on me for sure. i like the big black outlines on the album cover as well
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Aug 21, 2020, 04:21 AM
By the way, what is a Zine? Like a magazine?
Appears to be yes
In for that clear vinyl + zine as well
No idea what a zine is ;D
just heard for the first time. so fuckin good! wow
got my pre order with the single. So pumped!
Might be 2nd best music video compared to Mein...... jk NOT!!!! This is legit music video!!! Was amazing, most likely their best!
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
done!
"Ohms" is growing on me. The artwork looks so much better with the pre-order packages. Everything will be fine. I'm just overjoyed we all get to experience a new album roll out another time! The excitement is over the top.
My hat bundle says $48.98 then when you add it to the cart it jumps to $74.98 :'(
The art of this video is so fucking good. I'm not hyping, I really think it's outstanding, it's their best video so far. Many of these frames would be amazing album covers.
(https://i.imgur.com/3LOIiDn.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Rg1TJl5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PJdIXeY.png)
Kudos to rafatoon, if you search for it you'll find more of his work on youtube.
Ohms is going to take Deftones' popularity to another level, just watch.
Dear God, still processing here...FUCK!
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 21, 2020, 04:23 AM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Aug 21, 2020, 04:18 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
I didn't dig the art that much at first, but its really grown on me now. It looks fantastic on the merch.
it's growing on me for sure. i like the big black outlines on the album cover as well
I also didn't like it at all at first, but after I found out it's Chi's eyes it became special!
oh i counted 9 strings on Sephen's guitar in the video, so if there was any doubt, he's using a 9 string for sure. man i love that video
Quote from: Mikeyyyyy on Aug 21, 2020, 04:39 AM
My hat bundle says $48.98 then when you add it to the cart it jumps to $74.98 :'(
I believe it's $48.98 with the CD. Because you're getting the vinyl, that's what jacks up the price.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 21, 2020, 04:40 AM
The filmography of this video is so fucking good. I'm not hyping, I really think it's outstanding, it's their best video so far. Many of these frames would be amazing album covers.
(https://i.imgur.com/3LOIiDn.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Rg1TJl5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PJdIXeY.png)
Kudos to rafatoon, if you search for it you'll find more of his work on youtube.
i agree. artistically it's the best video they've made, or right up there top 3 or so. great job, i was not excited for the video because i figured it would be their typical run of the mill video, but wow, this thing is great. all videos from now on should be with Rafatoon
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Quote from: SMLiberator on Aug 21, 2020, 04:18 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
I didn't dig the art that much at first, but its really grown on me now. It looks fantastic on the merch.
it's growing on me for sure. i like the big black outlines on the album cover as well
I also didn't like it at all at first, but after I found out it's Chi's eyes it became special!
is it confirmed that it's Chi's eyes?
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Quote from: Mikeyyyyy on Aug 21, 2020, 04:39 AM
My hat bundle says $48.98 then when you add it to the cart it jumps to $74.98 :'(
I believe it's $48.98 with the CD. Because you're getting the vinyl, that's what jacks up the price.
Ohhhhhhhhh! That makes sense. Bought it anyway :)
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 21, 2020, 04:52 AM
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 AM
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Quote from: SMLiberator on Aug 21, 2020, 04:18 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
I didn't dig the art that much at first, but its really grown on me now. It looks fantastic on the merch.
it's growing on me for sure. i like the big black outlines on the album cover as well
I also didn't like it at all at first, but after I found out it's Chi's eyes it became special!
is it confirmed that it's Chi's eyes?
Not confirmed, but it matches that picture perfectly.
Probably tied with Sextape for my favorite vid.
Sextape looks gorgeous if you have one of the phone 3d veiwer things (or I guess actual VR headsets) and watch it on youtube vr so it's just all you can see. just looks so great.
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I felt like that with Swerve City when i first listened to it, and still feel like the same about it.
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I hope that happens with Ohms to me!
Quote from: Vanby on Aug 21, 2020, 05:07 AM
Probably tied with Sextape for my favorite vid.
Sextape looks gorgeous if you have one of the phone 3d veiwer things (or I guess actual VR headsets) and watch it on youtube vr so it's just all you can see. just looks so great.
Yeah Sextape was my fav Deftones video by far....but this one is right up there. Two wildy different styles though. Overall I am incredibly impressed with this video. And honestly this entire album rollout. Now I see why they were sooo adamant about keeping shit under wraps. They really had something special planned. It's been an amazing week!
Just watched the video which was my first listen of the song (except Apple music preview). Wow....so excited for the album, well even more excited!!!!!!!
Also, the guy in the video...I thought Voldemort was dead? 😂😂
I've gotta admit, I'm still curious why the band only chose ten songs to put on the album when thirteen were written apparently. I was getting used to seeing eleven songs. I hope the extras get released someday (along with "Crest" for heaven's sake) or are used for the next album. ;)
100k views on the video in less than two hours. This one will be a hit for them.
What an incredible video.
Wow.
by far my favorite video they've done
song wedges itself into my head more each time
Quote from: ireallywish on Aug 21, 2020, 05:49 AM
by far my favorite video they've done
song wedges itself into my head more each time
Definitely feel like I'm liking it more and more each time I listen.
Especially with the video, really fits it.
Vinyl ordered.
Yewww
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Quote from: Gaz on Aug 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
It's more KNY sounding for me
The "throoouuuggghhh" part at around 1:05 is kind of reminiscent to something on KNY for sure.
That part sounds like Future Warrior from the Palms album.
I've been waiting for someone to say this. 100%. The first time I heard it I thought of that. This track fucking rules and the video is pretty amazing.
I'd preorder to the UK but God knows what import tariffs will be slapped on now.
Anyone else catch "Deftones" painted on the train car at around 1:07 of the video?
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 21, 2020, 06:23 AM
Anyone else catch "Deftones" painted on the train car at around 1:07 of the video?
I actually did. Hello friends, its been a while!
The music is growing on me. Loved the videoclip.
Dig the song. Curious why they're choosing to give us the closer. Also all things considered probably one of their better videos
The album artwork and title feels like a real homage to Chi. Not only the cover art but maybe the title itself. With Chi being a Buddhist, the Om symbol and sound is an important part of Buddhism (and Hinduism).
A genuinely good music video? We've hit the jackpot here.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 21, 2020, 04:23 AM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Aug 21, 2020, 04:18 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
I didn't dig the art that much at first, but its really grown on me now. It looks fantastic on the merch.
it's growing on me for sure. i like the big black outlines on the album cover as well
I also didn't like it at all at first, but after I found out it's Chi's eyes it became special!
is it really?
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 AM
oh i counted 9 strings on Sephen's guitar in the video, so if there was any doubt, he's using a 9 string for sure. man i love that video
(https://i.postimg.cc/25XC6PXC/stef.jpg)
Indeed its 9, but the music sounded good, which makes me hopeful for the record. I just hope hes not going full low (rly low) tunning. Not a fan. Maybe thats just me...
Quote from: Far away on Aug 21, 2020, 07:02 AM
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 21, 2020, 04:23 AM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Aug 21, 2020, 04:18 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2020, 04:12 AM
Bundles are up:
https://preorder.deftones.com/
I didn't dig the art that much at first, but its really grown on me now. It looks fantastic on the merch.
it's growing on me for sure. i like the big black outlines on the album cover as well
I also didn't like it at all at first, but after I found out it's Chi's eyes it became special!
is it really?
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 AM
oh i counted 9 strings on Sephen's guitar in the video, so if there was any doubt, he's using a 9 string for sure. man i love that video
(https://i.postimg.cc/25XC6PXC/stef.jpg)
Indeed its 9, but the music sounded good, which makes me hopeful for the record. I just hope hes not going full low (rly low) tunning. Not a fan. Maybe thats just me...
I liked that it wasn't all "chugga chugga." Especially the ending. Makes me wonder if since Stef wasn't into Gore if he really brought it on this record. Like he felt he had some making up to do.
Ranking the videos for shits and giggles:
1. Change (In the House of Flies)
2. Ohms
3. Minerva
4. Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)
5. Digital Bath
6. Sextape
7. Hexagram
8. Bored
9. Diamond Eyes
10. You've Seen the Butcher
11. Romantic Dreams
12. Bloody Cape
13. My Own Summer (Shove It)
14. Rocket Skates
15. Beauty School
16. Prayers/Triangles
17. 7 Words
18. Swerve City (both versions)
19. Mein
20. Hole in the Earth
Video is Killer. Love how it even made the song darker for me. This chorus is so beautiful. I'm really hoping for more of this singing and less screaming with vocal effects. Love the clean vocals.
No UK pre order stuff yet, hope they do something for us!
Anyone knows what is the rainbow metallic jacket of the clear vinyl version? The texture of the fold?
Have UK people pre-ordered from the US store or waiting for something more local to be released?
Feature and some words about the single and album from Chino in NME: https://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-share-new-single-ohms-lyrics-inspiration-chino-moreno-2734234
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 08:38 AM
Have UK people pre-ordered from the US store or waiting for something more local to be released?
I ended up ordering compulsively but not sure if it was a bad idea with potential costs/delays in hindsight. Ah well. Exchange rate worked out ok but not sure about import tariffs.
Quote from: feiticeiro on Aug 21, 2020, 08:29 AM
Anyone knows what is the rainbow metallic jacket of the clear vinyl version? The texture of the fold?
Imagine it'll be similar to Converge's last album which looks sweet.
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Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 08:38 AM
Have UK people pre-ordered from the US store or waiting for something more local to be released?
I ended up ordering compulsively but not sure if it was a bad idea with potential costs/delays in hindsight. Ah well. Exchange rate worked out ok but not sure about import tariffs.
I nearly pulled the trigger too but think I'm going to wait.
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 08:38 AM
Have UK people pre-ordered from the US store or waiting for something more local to be released?
I'm from Spain and I'm waiting.
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 08:41 AM
Feature and some words about the single and album from Chino in NME: https://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-share-new-single-ohms-lyrics-inspiration-chino-moreno-2734234
This article says Black Stallion is going to be released later this year....
Also, video is EPIC. Blown away! Yesss Deftones, yeeeeessssss. The band that never dies!
Amazing video, the best they have done for years!
Ohms is currently sitting at no 12 in the Last.fm track charts and no 23 in the album charts. Nice work boys
I'd love it if Deftones did a B-Side called "2 More Hours" a nice tribute to Sharing Lungs! lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEJV6Y8grOq/
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:06 AM
I'm looking for someone willing to look for the OG two more hours, I need to know who unknowingly instigated this
Quote from: SquealLikeaPig on Oct 31, 2012, 10:25 PM
2 more hours
this seems to be the first one, from the kny thread. he repeated it a couple of days later which drove people mad, then it started appearing in other threads
UK people
https://www.crashrecords.co.uk/product/deftones-ohms-various-formats-pre-order/
https://www.emp.co.uk/p/ohms/479736.html
No merch with it, but a gold Vinyl
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 08:38 AM
Have UK people pre-ordered from the US store or waiting for something more local to be released?
I preordered the hoodie, shirt and CD bundle on impulse. I'm that hyped that I'm not bothered on what duty it'll incur.
Someone asked Stef in that IG post for the 9 string when the next single was coming and he said sooner rather than later if he was betting.. I'm going to guess in 2 weeks we'll have the second single.
When I first listened to Ohms I was kinda underwhelmed, but have found myself wanting to listen to it again and again and it has massively grown on me. This reaction often happens with new Deftones singles. I like the upbeat vibe to it, it's not as heavy as I was expecting but their album closers are normally pretty chill compared to the opening tracks so it makes sense. Plus, after the year we've been through, it's a pretty refreshing and summery sounding song but in a good way. The kinda song that's designed for cruising down a sunny highway to with the roof down.
Video is sick, Song is a banger. Today was a good day
Yes it was/is
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 21, 2020, 10:17 AM
UK people
https://www.crashrecords.co.uk/product/deftones-ohms-various-formats-pre-order/
https://www.emp.co.uk/p/ohms/479736.html
No merch with it, but a gold Vinyl
Maybe I'm late: another store with the gold vinyl https://millsrecordcompany.com/UPC/093624888673
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 21, 2020, 04:43 AM
Ohms is going to take Deftones' popularity to another level, just watch.
I agree, I call it like I did in 2017
https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/6wyahe/its_time_for_a_new_deftones_record_produced_by/
Such an expansive video. Not necessarily their best imo but it's great to see them finally push the envelope on that front.
9-string confirmed! They all seem to be looking pretty healthy too. Bums me out even more for the tour we missed.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:06 AM
I'm looking for someone willing to look for the OG two more hours, I need to know who unknowingly instigated this
Quote from: SquealLikeaPig on Oct 31, 2012, 10:25 PM
2 more hours
this seems to be the first one, from the kny thread. he repeated it a couple of days later which drove people mad, then it started appearing in other threads
Amazing 8)
The merch is a bit...disappointing
Listened to the song for the first time and there is so much I already love about it! Love Chino's vocals (reminds me a lot of his vocals from KNY and SNW), the guitar, that effect by Frank at the end, and of course the overall production on it! I can definitely imagine this being a good album closer especially if some of the tracks before this are darker. I can't help but feel like this is what some of the tracks (especially in the 2nd half of it) should have sounded like. Very, very happy with this and can't wait to listen to it again + the rest of the album!
https://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-share-new-single-ohms-lyrics-inspiration-chino-moreno-2734234
Welcome back Stephen Carpenter, from start to finish! Ohms just explodes right out as if an alien as landed on earth and just going about.
Can't wait to hear to hear more!
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 21, 2020, 12:44 PM
The merch is a bit...disappointing
It has been for quite some time now. Literally an album cover screened onto a t-shirt.
Having said that, I bought that fucking hoodie/vinyl package immediately. LOL. (I haven't bought a new Deftones shirt since S/T tour - I'm due.)
Quote from: snw9 on Aug 21, 2020, 01:31 PM
Welcome back Stephen Carpenter, from start to finish! Ohms just explodes right out as if an alien as landed on earth and just going about.
Can't wait to hear to hear more!
I hope he uses the extra low strings tho.
There are CD version, black vinyl, transparent vinyl with zin and I found gold vinyl in French market : FNAC
Quote from: defburn on Aug 21, 2020, 01:59 PM
There are CD version, black vinyl, transparent vinyl with zin and I found gold vinyl in French market : FNAC
I already got the black, clear, and gold vinyl... and I'm sure I'll get the CD too because I'm a big ole sucker
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Aug 21, 2020, 02:11 PM
Quote from: defburn on Aug 21, 2020, 01:59 PM
There are CD version, black vinyl, transparent vinyl with zin and I found gold vinyl in French market : FNAC
What vinyl is the Deftones store selling? Just black?
I already got the black, clear, and gold vinyl... and I'm sure I'll get the CD too because I'm a big ole sucker
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Aug 21, 2020, 02:11 PM
Quote from: defburn on Aug 21, 2020, 01:59 PM
There are CD version, black vinyl, transparent vinyl with zin and I found gold vinyl in French market : FNAC
I already got the black, clear, and gold vinyl... and I'm sure I'll get the CD too because I'm a big ole sucker
I want all for my collection
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Quote from: FatherUppercut on Aug 21, 2020, 02:11 PM
Quote from: defburn on Aug 21, 2020, 01:59 PM
There are CD version, black vinyl, transparent vinyl with zin and I found gold vinyl in French market : FNAC
What vinyl is the Deftones store selling? Just black?
I already got the black, clear, and gold vinyl... and I'm sure I'll get the CD too because I'm a big ole sucker
the store is selling the black and clear + zine. I got the gold version from another retailer
Probably Amazon
The clear is more expansive, 40 $, the gold 20 €
https://www.kerrang.com/amp/why-deftones-new-album-is-called-ohms
Couldn't help myself. Got ripped and watched the video a couple times last night.
First, one of their better videos. Love this band, but have been eternally frustrated by how the videos often don't match the vibe of their music.
Musically, dug it. No rehashes of old riffs or sounds here. The structure is varied enough to keep it interesting with some amazing textures. Steph's guitar is obviously the driving force behind the song and some of the effects he used here blew me out of the water. Sounds like an electric field or video game sound effects at times, in a good way. Can see what some people were saying about it sounding like 311 and Smashing Pumpkins (never got into CKY so I can't comment on that), and it definitely sounds different for the band, but still like something they should be doing. The breakdown riff towards the end also gave me a Hum vibe as well, reminding me of stuff like Dreamboat or the breakdown in Stars. On that note, I do wish like others have said, that they stayed on that outro for longer. Chino stated that the song was initially 12 minutes, and that Steph really loves to drive home his riffs. I could totally see the song droning on at the end with that riff a la Hum, adding some fills and flourishes to keep it fresh, and just creating this wall of sound that crescendos before abruptly cutting out. Hope that 12 minute mix still exists somewhere.
Terry Date produced this well. Gore still sounds like garbage to this day, but I will maintain that Deftones' producers are more important for how the album sounds than the overall quality of the songwriting. Gore suffers both from how it sounds and the lack of enthusiasm of the band for crafting the songs.
The artwork really grew on me last night as well. My girlfriend and I stared at it for a while and brought away a bunch of different interpretations. Initially I thought it was really dumb because it looked like something a 10 year old made in MS paint. But the abstract and lo-fi quality of it I think is genius now. My girlfriend pointed out that if you cover either of the eyes, it looks like the image reverses (the left eye will look like a right eye and vice versa).
A little sad that the album doesn't appear to be that long, but if they made something that sounds cohesive and bleeds the songs together to make it feel longer, I will be happy. Hoping it feels as tight as WP and KNY.
Well my memory is complete shite... yeah i searched all the way back up to the 2006 archives but couldn't find anything. I could've sworn it started then but oh well. I just remember what a shit show it was waiting for that record. De was the fastest we've ever had news of an album being made to hearing the final product. Chi's accident was in Nov 2008 and we had a brand new record by May 2010. It seems like it started farther back and KNY doesn't feel like a long time ago, so until an older post is found that is the OG "2 more hours"...
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 21, 2020, 09:48 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:06 AM
I'm looking for someone willing to look for the OG two more hours, I need to know who unknowingly instigated this
Quote from: SquealLikeaPig on Oct 31, 2012, 10:25 PM
2 more hours
this seems to be the first one, from the kny thread. he repeated it a couple of days later which drove people mad, then it started appearing in other threads
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 10:55 AM
Someone asked Stef in that IG post for the 9 string when the next single was coming and he said sooner rather than later if he was betting.. I'm going to guess in 2 weeks we'll have the second single.
Oh you mean 9.4?
My apologies, you seem to have found one earlier from Nov 2012, the other one says Oct. 2012
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 02:14 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 02:06 AM
I'm looking for someone willing to look for the OG two more hours, I need to know who unknowingly instigated this
This is the earliest one I can find
https://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,19909.msg794150.html#msg794150
Got the UK pre-order email and went for the exclusive vinyl and zine and CD.
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the only thing i'm disappointed is the fact it's the album closer. I usually prefer my closer to be longer, more epic and anthemic. But i love the song, if everything else is of. the same quality, I'll be happy.
they set the bar way too high with Rubicon
I was thinking more of Pink Maggit, but yeah.
Pink Maggit is the goat of Deftones closers for sure, but also shout-out to MX / Damone
I was going to try to not over-listen to Ohms but I've been playing the fuck out of it.
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 04:13 PM
Got the UK pre-order email and went for the exclusive vinyl and zine and CD.
Where can I do the pre-order for EU? Are there any link of the official store?
Quote from: feiticeiro on Aug 21, 2020, 04:29 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 04:13 PM
Got the UK pre-order email and went for the exclusive vinyl and zine and CD.
Where can I do the pre-order for EU? Are there any link of the official store?
This is the link in the email I received: https://deftones.warnerartists.net/?eml=2020August21%2F5078545%2F6010177&etsubid=86287813
Quote from: feiticeiro on Aug 21, 2020, 08:29 AM
Anyone knows what is the rainbow metallic jacket of the clear vinyl version? The texture of the fold?
I imagine it'll have a bit of a holographic look to it
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 04:31 PM
Quote from: feiticeiro on Aug 21, 2020, 04:29 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 04:13 PM
Got the UK pre-order email and went for the exclusive vinyl and zine and CD.
Where can I do the pre-order for EU? Are there any link of the official store?
This is the link in the email I received: https://deftones.warnerartists.net/?eml=2020August21%2F5078545%2F6010177&etsubid=86287813
Thanks! ;D
Is it possible that the album version of Ohms is a bit longer? The track is amazing imo, and I think there is space for an additional, intense ending/outro (in the vein of BQAD single vs album version).
However, I could see the main riff becoming repetitive if that was the case. Plus, what we got is pretty intense on its own.
Quote from: Formant on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 PM
Is it possible that the album version of Ohms is a bit longer? The track is amazing imo, and I think there is space for an additional, intense ending/outro (in the vein of BQAD single vs album version).
However, I could see the main riff becoming repetitive if that was the case.
like everyone else, I thought it was odd that they chose the last song on the album for the first single since those songs are in a category of their own and get compared.
I would be ok with them adding a little something extra or maybe a pause and a hidden track or something
Quote from: Formant on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 PM
Is it possible that the album version of Ohms is a bit longer? The track is amazing imo, and I think there is space for an additional, intense ending/outro (in the vein of BQAD single vs album version).
I'm afraid not. Source: iTunes and Qobuz.
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 21, 2020, 04:52 PM
Quote from: Formant on Aug 21, 2020, 04:48 PM
Is it possible that the album version of Ohms is a bit longer? The track is amazing imo, and I think there is space for an additional, intense ending/outro (in the vein of BQAD single vs album version).
However, I could see the main riff becoming repetitive if that was the case. Plus, what we got is pretty intense on its own.
I'm afraid not. Source: iTunes and Qobuz.
Gotcha. I ain't mad about that! I'm pumped to see how it works as an album closer. If anything, the way it ends inspires more listens to scratch that itch.
It does feel like it could kick in again at the end of the song
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Is it possible that the album version of Ohms is a bit longer? The track is amazing imo, and I think there is space for an additional, intense ending/outro (in the vein of BQAD single vs album version).
However, I could see the main riff becoming repetitive if that was the case. Plus, what we got is pretty intense on its own.
I'm afraid not. Source: iTunes and Qobuz.
Gotcha. I ain't mad about that! I'm pumped to see how it works as an album closer. If anything, the way it ends inspires more listens to scratch that itch.
Yeah, entirely agree. It's a swerve for them to have released the album closer as a single, as has been said, especially given their track record of how they end their albums. I really wonder what the preceding song is like as Ohms, the song, presumably is the resolve and soother to what I am imagining is the maelstrom that comes before it.
Off topic but listening to Ohms over and over made me want to listen to Hexagram. It's kinda pointless to compare records, I just don't think this one will top the S/T for me. We shall see
So Stef suggests that the second single will be released fairly soon - do we have an idea of what song it might be? I hope it's just the one more before the album drops and, given how relatively soon that is, imagine that will be the case. As much as I want to hear the new material, I don't want to hear too much pre album release.
I hope they have another video with rafatoon and the artists who worked on the Ohms video on deck for the next single because holy fuck did they knock it out of the park.
The Ohms video is #11 on YouTube's Trending and has over 350k views in about 12 hours.
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Off topic but listening to Ohms over and over made me want to listen to Hexagram. It's kinda pointless to compare records, I just don't think this one will top the S/T for me. We shall see
We're surrounded by debris of the past. 8)
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Off topic but listening to Ohms over and over made me want to listen to Hexagram. It's kinda pointless to compare records, I just don't think this one will top the S/T for me. We shall see
Wow same here, I had to return to S/T and SNW today. It made me sad, because somwhere deep inside I had a feeling that they will never release anything better (for me) than S/T, WP or SNW :( I wish I'm wrong this time.
BTW I'm wondering if we will get one more single before 9/25.
Personally I would prefer to get whole record without any more singles. It can ruin the expectations for whole record :D
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Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 05:01 PM
Off topic but listening to Ohms over and over made me want to listen to Hexagram. It's kinda pointless to compare records, I just don't think this one will top the S/T for me. We shall see
We're surrounded by debris of the past. 8)
:D
absolutely. do more videos with Rafatoon. or the people who did Crosses imagery, and bitches brew video. maybe that was just Chino or Sean Lopez? it's fire whoever comes up with it
I prefer the rough cut of that song, where it starts with Chino saying "check check 1 2"
Also those two songs are the exact same length btw :o
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 05:01 PM
Off topic but listening to Ohms over and over made me want to listen to Hexagram. It's kinda pointless to compare records, I just don't think this one will top the S/T for me. We shall see
Guaranteed whatever the next single is, the video is done already? They might have done both videos at the same time
I think whatever one thinks of the single, it's clear that Rafatoon works perfect with Deftones.
I think the next single will be more heavier and we will hear stef play more on the bottom strings
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I think the next single will be more heavier and we will hear stef play more on the bottom strings
Not trying to over-hype or create unfair expectations, but if they have a similar video for the song I praised with rafatoon, it's going to be some Godmode next level shit that blows everyone's minds out of the back of their fucking skulls.
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I think the next single will be more heavier and we will hear stef play more on the bottom strings
Not trying to over-hype or create unfair expectations, but if they have a video for the song I praised with rafatoon, it's going to be some Godmode next level shit that blows everyone's minds out of the back of their fucking skulls.
That's all a good thing, right?
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I think the next single will be more heavier and we will hear stef play more on the bottom strings
Not trying to over-hype or create unfair expectations, but if they have a similar video for the song I praised with rafatoon, it's going to be some Godmode next level shit that blows everyone's minds out of the back of their fucking skulls.
Genesis or The Spell of Mathematics would absolutely do that ;D
To those of you that have heard the entire Album. Where would you put the Ohms single ranking the 10 tracks?
Ohms in that top 10 Trending on Youtube!!
Nobody here has heard the entire album.
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Quote from: Roidragee on Aug 21, 2020, 05:49 PM
I think the next single will be more heavier and we will hear stef play more on the bottom strings
Not trying to over-hype or create unfair expectations, but if they have a similar video for the song I praised with rafatoon, it's going to be some Godmode next level shit that blows everyone's minds out of the back of their fucking skulls.
Genesis or The Spell of Mathematics would absolutely do that ;D
Someone on FB group said exactly the same thing. But...same things were said about romantic dreams or hearts/wires. Solid songs but both are not considered as DT classics :D
LOL Romantic Dreams - not a bad song, but hardly a favorite of mine. I still say Hearts/Wires is underrated, though.
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Off topic but listening to Ohms over and over made me want to listen to Hexagram. It's kinda pointless to compare records, I just don't think this one will top the S/T for me. We shall see
Wow same here, I had to return to S/T and SNW today. It made me sad, because somwhere deep inside I had a feeling that they will never release anything better (for me) than S/T, WP or SNW :( I wish I'm wrong this time.
BTW I'm wondering if we will get one more single before 9/25.
Personally I would prefer to get whole record without any more singles. It can ruin the expectations for whole record :D
considering it's only 10 tracks, I don't want to hear anymore until the album comes out.
Who am I kidding. If they release another one, I'll be all over it
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Nobody here has heard the entire album.
Well I wouldn't say that. We never know.
I really like how they released the final track now. I think I'll view the entire album differently with this approach, compared with their older albums in terms of flow.
Obviously that would change with a second single.
A question for those who have heard more tracks: are the other tracks or any of them darker? Ohms is pretty upbeat.
I heard complaints about chino's voice on that song, saying he sounds more like he does on side project like crosses. I seriously don't get that. To me, it's just chino being chino, nothing much different than how he sounded on Minerva or something like that.
I mean he doesn't hit the same notes, but i'm just talking about the singing style.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 21, 2020, 07:03 PM
A question for those who have heard more tracks: are the other tracks or any of them darker? Ohms is pretty upbeat.
The other tracks are pretty energetic, I dunno if they're as energetic as ohms is, but they've got their moods...
I can't wait to hear Pompeji and Headless.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 21, 2020, 07:03 PM
A question for those who have heard more tracks: are the other tracks or any of them darker? Ohms is pretty upbeat.
Some darker songs, some quicker songs, some more mellow songs. It's a Deftones album.
I'm taking a break of ohms after today, i want to be excited to listen to it again when the album releases.
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Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 21, 2020, 07:03 PM
A question for those who have heard more tracks: are the other tracks or any of them darker? Ohms is pretty upbeat.
Some darker songs, some quicker songs, some more mellow songs. It's a Deftones album.
Ultimately that's exactly it.
In my opinion I think ceremony could have been the closer.
I also think that ceremony has almost the same kind of epicness that ohms has for a closing song.
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I'm taking a break of ohms after today, i want to be excited to listen to it again when the album releases.
Yeah, good plan - I feel the same. I really like the song and I'm ready for the album and don't want the track to become overly familiar to the point that I end up skipping it just to listen to the other tracks.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 21, 2020, 07:42 PM
In my opinion I think ceremony could have been the closer.
I also think that ceremony has almost the same kind of epicness that ohms has for a closing song.
I'm not giving any details of songs away because I don't want anyone going in with specific expectations, but there was one song I was absolutely sure was going to be the closer. I really like that they've gone against expectations with Ohms last though.
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I really love the track, amazing riff, Chino does a great job on the vocals, the production is awesome, it really feels like Terry Date's hand. Vega's bass sound is very felt.
I couldn't be happier, it really is a great first release and a very good pick as a single.
The album promises a lot, I feel like there is a return to the roots without losing sight of doing different things. There is an incredible progression and maturity in the sound.
The 24bit is another thing, thanks a lot @slacker!
Luisch? That's a name I remember seeing a lot when I registered! The only one I haven't seen is From_Musings. Otherwise just about everyone has chimed in. At least from when I started which wasn't that long ago. It's awesome!
Hey man, Sicario. Long time without hearing from you, also long time without entering SharingLungs, I hope everything is fine for you in these strange times. It was about time that old litter of strangers came back and talked some shit. Nice to see you here.
omg trap doors? catchy rock verse kind of trempest verse mixed witha little romantic dreams i think, i dig it.
i like the most of it,but the "throough"-part was kinda boring,just one guitar chord for like 35 seconds.some serious idling going on there,unimaginative.
needs more spins for sure,maybe its genius. btw crest was the opener for gore -scratched at the last minute,not a DE b-side
Newbie question -> what's that behind Abe ? What is he about to do with that ? :o
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Newbie question -> what's that behind Abe ? What is he about to do with that ? :o
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Bang a gong
It's 30" Zildjian hand hammered gong. For hitting.
And that's a giant Waffle behind him!
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And that's a giant Waffle behind him!
That was my first thought ,but thanks for putting me right :D
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Nobody here has heard the entire album.
Well I wouldn't say that. We never know.
I'm talking about most usual members. Maybe some insiders or friends to the band who happened to join here got a taste. My point is that the full album has not leaked.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2020, 06:15 PM
Nobody here has heard the entire album.
Well I wouldn't say that. We never know.
I'm talking about most usual members. Maybe some insiders or friends to the band who happened to join here got a taste. My point is that the full album has not leaked.
2 more hours we can hear it?
I only heard a snippet of one song that has a lyric involving "picture perfect strange" or something along those lines. I only listened to confirm it wasn't BS because I want virgin ears for the album release on 9/25. Of course I'll listen to any officially released stuff.
A question for the ones who heard the leaks: were they named at all? I suspect the next single will be this song.
Ohms it's probably my favorite chino chorus of the Sergio era... i've had that damn thing stuck in my head all day long. It's so innocent and beautiful sounding. I love it. I'm really hoping for more singing like this and less screaming this time around. It's not that I don't like screaming. Or yelling. Or whatever. I just don't want those terrible vocal effects that were used on Gore . Some of those effects and filters were Not really my cup of tea.
@draken They weren't cause they didn't leak as files. They were ID'd eventually, and the names that were found check out.
I can't wait to hear the one where he sings "Balance Balance Balance " and "We're miles beyond the sound " that ending to that one is so beautiful. The way it peaks with those soft lyrics. I've only heard it in crappy quality but that one to me sounds like pure Deftones. Really heavy and then absolutely soaring beauty. I can't wait to find out which track that one is. I'm going to guess it's towards the end of the record. But who knows.
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I can't wait to hear the one where he sings "Balance Balance Balance " and "We're miles beyond the sound " that ending to that one is so beautiful. The way it peaks with those soft lyrics. I've only heard it in crappy quality but that one to me sounds like pure Deftones. Really heavy and then absolutely soaring beauty. I can't wait to find out which track that one is. I'm going to guess it's towards the end of the record. But who knows.
Someone Pm me if you know the name of that track. I've only heard that one and one other and won't listen to anymore. Wish I didn't even listen to these but couldn't help my self. My Deftones self control is pathetic 🤷🏻♂️🤔🤦🏻♂️
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Off topic but listening to Ohms over and over made me want to listen to Hexagram. It's kinda pointless to compare records, I just don't think this one will top the S/T for me. We shall see
Wow same here, I had to return to S/T and SNW today. It made me sad, because somwhere deep inside I had a feeling that they will never release anything better (for me) than S/T, WP or SNW :( I wish I'm wrong this time.
BTW I'm wondering if we will get one more single before 9/25.
Personally I would prefer to get whole record without any more singles. It can ruin the expectations for whole record :D
In a 10 track record, I'd rather not. 2 out of 10 is too much, imo!
I just hope there's a song on the album that sounds similar to Sextape / Digital Bath. I can do without so much screaming. I want more crooning and soaring vocals.
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I just hope there's a song on the album that sounds similar to Sextape / Digital Bath. I can do without so much screaming. I want more crooning and soaring vocals.
I absolutely bro. I want chinos beautiful voice to really shine. And it really does on this song. Which is so great.
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Quote from: all3n_y on Aug 22, 2020, 12:15 AM
I just hope there's a song on the album that sounds similar to Sextape / Digital Bath. I can do without so much screaming. I want more crooning and soaring vocals.
I absolutely bro. I want chinos beautiful voice to really shine. And it really does on this song. Which is so great.
I haven't listened to the single. I'm gonna try REALLY hard to hold out and wait for the album. We'll see how that goes lol.
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Quote from: all3n_y on Aug 22, 2020, 12:15 AM
I just hope there's a song on the album that sounds similar to Sextape / Digital Bath. I can do without so much screaming. I want more crooning and soaring vocals.
I absolutely bro. I want chinos beautiful voice to really shine. And it really does on this song. Which is so great.
I haven't listened to the single. I'm gonna try REALLY hard to hold out and wait for the album. We'll see how that goes lol.
Well good luck to you! I wish I had that self-control in me LOL.
Does anybody know if there are any songs over 5 to 6 minutes long?
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Quote from: all3n_y on Aug 22, 2020, 12:15 AM
I just hope there's a song on the album that sounds similar to Sextape / Digital Bath. I can do without so much screaming. I want more crooning and soaring vocals.
I absolutely bro. I want chinos beautiful voice to really shine. And it really does on this song. Which is so great.
I haven't listened to the single. I'm gonna try REALLY hard to hold out and wait for the album. We'll see how that goes lol.
Well good luck to you! I wish I had that self-control in me LOL.
Does anybody know if there are any songs over 5 to 6 minutes long?
There's a few over five minutes. None that hit the six minute mark. The average song is about four and a half minutes though.
Quote from: Draken on Aug 20, 2020, 04:23 PM
The new track is amazing. Terry mothafuckin' Date is back on the team, thank god. Chino's vocals float PERFECTLY in the mix. That was the biggest problem I had with Gore, his voice just seemed on top of everything rather than being like another instrument in the mix. I'm getting some Smashing Pumpkins vibes as well. Did anyone see Chino perform with them? That was awesome.
It's kinda weird though how the first single is the album closer... not complaining however.
this guy is 100% right, this was my biggest issue too. vocals sound GREAT on the new song, sounds like something from the Terry Date era albums, vocally. when KNY came out, i thought it was a good album as far as songs (same with DE) but the vocals were so prominent on all the other albums that weren't produced by Terry Date (save for SNW, but that was a clusterfuck of producers apparently)
But, yes, vocals sound great, super well mixed in. He has that older croon that was his trademark, imo. I remember an interview, abe saying that they got back some of the hallmark things of their sound that they had with Terry, I think this is some of what he was talking about.
Also shout out to the drum mix, so crisp. this is like digital bath levels of crisp.
Terry Date's Ears should be insured by Lloyd's of London...
This place is so chill now for the moment. It's a bit odd. Probably a nice break for the mods though. This is the calm before the 2nd storm so to speak. In general it's probably gonna be a rather quiet couple of weeks .It will pick up some when the next single drops for a couple days. Then probably go chill again for another week or two before slowly building up and eventually morphing into a moderators worst nightmare when the album drops. Lets pray it doesn't leak.....
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HA you should have seen this place in 2012 when KNY was about to come out. I was around back then on another account. Fun times. some bad trolling but overall a good time
a bit more about the production though just have to say, again GREAT blended vocals, and awesome drum mix, so crisp. abe has a nice beat in the song almost hip hop-boom bap ish. he doesn't get enough credit for being as unique as he is.
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HA you should have seen this place in 2012 when KNY was about to come out. I was around back then on another account. Fun times. some bad trolling but overall a good time
a bit more about the production though just have to say, again GREAT blended vocals, and awesome drum mix, so crisp. abe has a nice beat in the song almost hip hop-boom bap ish. he doesn't get enough credit for being as unique as he is.
Oh yeah it was crazy. I was here for it. In fact my 3rd ever post was asking for a PM of Rosemary lol!
A bit off topic but Fantano listened to Ohms on his stream today and actually really enjoyed it. I for sure thought he was gonna shit on it lmao
Quote from: Roidragee on Aug 22, 2020, 02:47 AM
A bit off topic but Fantano listened to Ohms on his stream today and actually really enjoyed it. I for sure thought he was gonna shit on it lmao
Does he save/upload his streams or anything? I enjoy him even though I rarely agree with him (general sentiment a lot of people share).
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A bit off topic but Fantano listened to Ohms on his stream today and actually really enjoyed it. I for sure thought he was gonna shit on it lmao
Does he save/upload his streams or anything? I enjoy him even though I rarely agree with him (general sentiment a lot of people share).
I think they're uploaded to YouTube a couple of days after the streams been done
Hey Rapture! Was curious on your to get your take on the single. I waited till midnight last night myself.
Terry Date's Ears should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...
I woke up at like 8am yesterday to go to the bathroom. I checked here out of habit and saw the single had dropped overseas. So of course I was up for a few hours listening to it and checking in around here.
I absolutely love the song. Those opening/closing riffs are so fun and jammy. The song itself is very warm, bright and almost euphoric. I was very surprised at first that it was the closing track. After hearing Chino's remarks about it in the NME interview it makes more sense though. Rubicon was a lot more intense, but it also had that optimistic, euphoric vibe. Rubicon is more of a soaring song while Ohms is a bit more grounded, but that's three albums in a row now with very optimistic closing tracks. Earlier in their career they always went with dark and experimental tracks. What Happened To You definitely fits the experimental description, but not at all a "dark" song IMO.
I'm trying to find the words to explain this, because people will think I am crazy.......Ohms feels like the shadow, the other side of the coin, the ying to the yang of Hexagram. Just that big, rhythmic guitar driven sound. Hexagram is the gritty, unsettling dark side-whereas Ohms is the warm, safe and uplifting bright side. Probably doesn't make sense to most people, but it just reminded me of Hexagram right out of the gate. Now when I listen to Hexagram, I hear shades of Ohms as well. Ok, so hence the description "safe" though. Ohms does have its own unique sound, but it's not surprising. You can never guess what Deftones will do, but once you hear it you're like "Yep. THAT is Deftones". Ohms, while different, makes perfect sense as a Deftones song. It doesn't blow you away and blindside you with something totally unexpected. Hexagram did though. After WP, no one knew what to expect with S/T........but when they first popped on the album, I can't imagine many people were expecting what they heard on that first track. I doubt that all makes much sense. But's that what I am good at. Writing paragraphs trying to explain something just for it to read like nonsense lol.
Back to Ohms as it stands on it's own........It's my 2nd favorite pre-album single in the Sergio era, behind only Leathers. So yeah, I like it more than Rocket Skates, Diamond Eyes, Tempest, Prayers and Doomed User. My only two complaints would be that Frank sounds almost invisible, and there was no interesting bridge. Those are pretty glaring flaws. I'm particularly worried about Frank. Hopefully it's just this one track. I'd be super sad if he was this low in the mix on a lot of songs. I'd still give it a solid 8/10 though.
At the end of the day, it's the perfect track to remind the world "Hey, we're back." Nothing too extreme or experimental that would cause too much speculation. ...."Are they going super soft now?"...... "OMG It's so heavy I hope the entire album is like this"....... "Ugh this doesn't even sound like Deftones. They need to stop letting Chino write songs". Unique enough to stand on it's own, but still simply pure Deftones.
This place was insane when I had that guy to go his local record shop and pick up Gore so we could leak it. that was a crazy day
Wow, a lot to unpack there.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 22, 2020, 04:30 AM
Wow, a lot to unpack there.
ask and you shall receive lol. As long as there's one person out there that appreciates the detailed post then it's all worth it. I wanted to be a writer when I was young. Probably a good thing I didn't as my books would probably worse than Game of Thrones lol
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Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 22, 2020, 04:30 AM
Wow, a lot to unpack there.
ask and you shall receive lol. As long as there's one person out there that appreciates the detailed post then it's all worth it. I wanted to be a writer when I was young. Probably a good thing I didn't as my books would probably worse than Game of Thrones lol
Obviously you are. Thanks Brother!
is it just me or does Terry Date always does my boy Frank wrong? he's low af on this one, as he was in a much of S/T, took me a while to realize he was actually there at the pre-chorus
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I woke up at like 8am yesterday to go to the bathroom. I checked here out of habit and saw the single had dropped overseas. So of course I was up for a few hours listening to it and checking in around here.
I absolutely love the song. Those opening/closing riffs are so fun and jammy. The song itself is very warm, bright and almost euphoric. I was very surprised at first that it was the closing track. After hearing Chino's remarks about it in the NME interview it makes more sense though. Rubicon was a lot more intense, but it also had that optimistic, euphoric vibe. Rubicon is more of a soaring song while Ohms is a bit more grounded, but that's three albums in a row now with very optimistic closing tracks. Earlier in their career they always went with dark and experimental tracks. What Happened To You definitely fits the experimental description, but not at all a "dark" song IMO.
I'm trying to find the words to explain this, because people will think I am crazy.......Ohms feels like the shadow, the other side of the coin, the ying to the yang of Hexagram. Just that big, rhythmic guitar driven sound. Hexagram is the gritty, unsettling dark side-whereas Ohms is the warm, safe and uplifting bright side. Probably doesn't make sense to most people, but it just reminded me of Hexagram right out of the gate. Now when I listen to Hexagram, I hear shades of Ohms as well. Ok, so hence the description "safe" though. Ohms does have its own unique sound, but it's not surprising. You can never guess what Deftones will do, but once you hear it you're like "Yep. THAT is Deftones". Ohms, while different, makes perfect sense as a Deftones song. It doesn't blow you away and blindside you with something totally unexpected. Hexagram did though. After WP, no one knew what to expect with S/T........but when they first popped on the album, I can't imagine many people were expecting what they heard on that first track. I doubt that all makes much sense. But's that what I am good at. Writing paragraphs trying to explain something just for it to read like nonsense lol.
Back to Ohms as it stands on it's own........It's my 2nd favorite pre-album single in the Sergio era, behind only Leathers. So yeah, I like it more than Rocket Skates, Diamond Eyes, Tempest, Prayers and Doomed User. My only two complaints would be that Frank sounds almost invisible, and there was no interesting bridge. Those are pretty glaring flaws. I'm particularly worried about Frank. Hopefully it's just this one track. I'd be super sad if he was this low in the mix on a lot of songs. I'd still give it a solid 8/10 though.
At the end of the day, it's the perfect track to remind the world "Hey, we're back." Nothing too extreme or experimental that would cause too much speculation. ...."Are they going super soft now?"...... "OMG It's so heavy I hope the entire album is like this"....... "Ugh this doesn't even sound like Deftones. They need to stop letting Chino write songs". Unique enough to stand on it's own, but still simply pure Deftones.
Solid write up. Some thoughts:
1. From what I've heard, you don't have to worry about Frank. He's very audible on the other songs...tokyo even posted something that he quickly deleted about Frank basically owning the album. As for this song, this is clearly the Stephen show, but I do hear Frank coming through on the "through the haunted maze" chorus and other parts. It's very subtle, but it's there. That's because what Frank does is sometimes very subtle, other times more pronounced (except WGTB, Beware and Prayers/Triangles - the mix did him dirty on those songs lol). And then he's more audible at the very beginning and a bit at the end.
2. I agree that the song needs a bridge or something else. I mean, I guess the "and time won't change this" part is technically the 2x bridge, but it maybe needs another bridge. Some of the Koi and Gore songs have this structure where it does feels like the songs just repeat passages and then end, like Entombed, Graphic Nature, Acid Hologram and Rubicon. And those are all solid songs, and so is this, but a sense of relying too much on repetition is occasionally there. Without giving too much away, this was my least favorite song played. It's good, it's fun, the chorus is gorgeous, the production is great - but every other song I heard is even better and more structurally complex.
3. Interesting take on Ohms and Hexagram and I can see your viewpoint. I do have to say, as with so many other Deftones songs, even if its not the most surprisingly epic song they've ever written, god DAMN does Ohms get burned into the head. I mean this song has literally been on a loop in my brain for the past two days. So that alone is a mark of a really good song even if I want a moment or two of more variety.
Good point. After the backlash from Gore about Steph not being involved in all that stuff, I would not surprised if this was a somewhat deliberate choice to show off Stephs chops right out of the gate. And that's great to hear about Frank. I'm so freaking stoked to hear what he's got in store.
Man, I really wish we would get another Piano song from them like Anniversary...
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 22, 2020, 03:51 AM
Terry Date's Ears should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...
YES
Pretty cool, alternative version of the album cover I found on FB. I dig it more than original:
(https://i.ibb.co/nR4w8BL/IMG-20200822-121136.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nR4w8BL)
I was really hoping they will continue to expand this picture day by day. It looks like something unfinished...but who knows, maybe it will become iconic album cover in the far future.
Quote from: Roidragee on Aug 22, 2020, 02:47 AM
A bit off topic but Fantano listened to Ohms on his stream today and actually really enjoyed it. I for sure thought he was gonna shit on it lmao
stop caring what this cuck thinks, seriously.
I am now totally addicted to this new song now, it makes me smile more and more every time I hear it!
Since Gore I got into Team Sleep and Crosses (late to the game with the side projects but the Woodstock Sessions album is now one of my most favourite ear candys), and found myself switching to those after listening Deftones a lot as I'd crave Chinos smoother vocals there. Ohms is scratching both itches. So excited for the album. Aaaarrrgghhh.
In the mean time I'm enjoying watching it make people's faces light up in reaction videos on YouTube ;D
Its grown on me a lot, Ive had it stuck it my head all the time, its making me want to hear all the tracks that come before it
Quote from: Shells on Aug 22, 2020, 12:13 PM
I am now totally addicted to this new song now, it makes me smile more and more every time I hear it!
Since Gore I got into Team Sleep and Crosses (late to the game with the side projects but the Woodstock Sessions album is now one of my most favourite ear candys), and found myself switching to those after listening Deftones a lot as I'd crave Chinos smoother vocals there. Ohms is scratching both itches. So excited for the album. Aaaarrrgghhh.
In the mean time I'm enjoying watching it make people's faces light up in reaction videos on YouTube ;D
If you like Ohms you should give Palms a listen
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Aug 22, 2020, 01:28 PM
frank is not very present on "ohms" song.
frank is very present on "ohms" album.
not buried in the mix. very present. you'll see.
(and its awesome)
Ok, thanks for letting us know Chino
;D
Need to mention that tokyodrifter being Chino is nothing but a rumour.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Aug 22, 2020, 01:29 PM
Quote from: Shells on Aug 22, 2020, 12:13 PM
I am now totally addicted to this new song now, it makes me smile more and more every time I hear it!
Since Gore I got into Team Sleep and Crosses (late to the game with the side projects but the Woodstock Sessions album is now one of my most favourite ear candys), and found myself switching to those after listening Deftones a lot as I'd crave Chinos smoother vocals there. Ohms is scratching both itches. So excited for the album. Aaaarrrgghhh.
In the mean time I'm enjoying watching it make people's faces light up in reaction videos on YouTube ;D
If you like Ohms you should give Palms a listen
I have but it's not really clicked with me yet, I'll probably suddenly love it in about 5 years time 😆
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Aug 22, 2020, 03:51 AM
Terry Date's Ears should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...
100% agree
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Aug 22, 2020, 04:11 AM
This place was insane when I had that guy to go his local record shop and pick up Gore so we could leak it. that was a crazy day
I mean, it was worth a shot, right?
Seriously man, that video is at least top three of their career. Director did a fantastic job. Loads of beautiful visuals.
The song is fantastic.. Love the video and the album cover has really grown on me. I can't believe how much the album cover has grown on me actually. It's kind of tripping me out. Also love the idea of the billboard for the release. That was really cool. Especially with the song lyric on top.
Can't wait to hear Frank all over this thing! He brings so much to their music.
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 22, 2020, 02:54 PM
Seriously man, that video is at least top three of their career. Director did a fantastic job. Loads of beautiful visuals.
Yeah, it's perfect
(https://i.ibb.co/0yNQH4p/IMG-20200822-201056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s9St8xp)
Just wanna say ohms is a banger and video is stunning. If this song is a good representation for the album I'm giddy as fuck. Hoping they have signed cd/vinyl on Newburry comics like they did for gore!
For anyone interested, today's been exactly 22 years since they played that one epic set at Bizarre Festival 1998.
In two (more) hours, I'll be streaming both 98 and 2000 Bizarre Festival sets on DeftonesLive, it'll be at this link
https://youtu.be/aDNoq6G7vHk
It won't be a huge upgrade from what's on YouTube, still an upgrade. It'll definitely be the best quality at hands, as we always try to provide.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 22, 2020, 09:25 PM
For anyone interested, today's been exactly 22 years since they played that one epic set at Bizarre Festival 1998.
In two (more) hours, I'll be streaming both 98 and 2000 Bizarre Festival sets on DeftonesLive, it'll be at this link
https://youtu.be/aDNoq6G7vHk
It won't be a huge upgrade from what's on YouTube, still an upgrade. It'll definitely be the best quality at hands, as we always try to provide.
I spend a lot of time on your channel and I always love your streams man. I'll be there for sure! I love how wild and spontaneous Chino was on stage back then.
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 22, 2020, 03:57 AM
Without giving too much away, this was my least favorite song played. It's good, it's fun, the chorus is gorgeous, the production is great - but every other song I heard is even better and more structurally complex.
That's exactly what I wanted to hear, thanks.
Also I was hoping to hear a slow, dark song like Change or Digital Bath, I guess that's not gonna happen, all the songs sound energic from I've read so far.
Very cool Mr. V!!!
This place over the past 24 hours since the Single released is like having a smoke after sex...
Speaking of which Is Rumors still here on the forum? There's been many "Chino"s here...
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 22, 2020, 01:40 PM
;D
Need to mention that tokyodrifter being Chino is nothing but a rumour.
Been listening to "Ohms" heavily since Thursday and it continues to grow with each listen. I like it better than "Gore" in its entirety, which was the first time Deftones truly disappointed me. But this single is really doing it for me. Can't wait to hear more!
What's up you Pink Maggots? The Butcher is in.
What if tokyodrifter is Frank and he was just bigging himself up earlier?
Can't be Abe, he doesn't know how to turn on a computer.... lol jk
Damn, already seeing listings on Ebay for Ohms vinyl for $150 for the gold version.
What song do you guys believe will be the next city? i bet it will be urantia or judging by the name maybe radiant city... even ceremony has single potential.
single* my bad hhehe
The riff Abe leaked during his live session seemed pretty iconic (it's certainly been stuck in my head). That has single potential. But really it depends on what the rest of the album has to offer-- which most of us do not know.
From the looks at just the song titles: Urantia, Ceremony, This Link Is Dead maybe? Those all seem like "single" titles, I guess.
Also, The Spell Of Mathematics is such an interesting title. It already sounds like a deeper cut that I'd obsess over.
Quote from: DenakDW on Aug 23, 2020, 02:43 AM
What song do you guys believe will be the next city? i bet it will be urantia or judging by the name maybe radiant city... even ceremony has single potential.
Urantia, Genesis, or Ceremony I think. I'm really interested in hearing what Radiant City sounds like though
Quote from: Roidragee on Aug 23, 2020, 03:27 AM
Quote from: DenakDW on Aug 23, 2020, 02:43 AM
What song do you guys believe will be the next city? i bet it will be urantia or judging by the name maybe radiant city... even ceremony has single potential.
Urantia, Genesis, or Ceremony I think. I'm really interested in hearing what Radiant City sounds like though
Radiant City reminds me of Cloud City off Hum's latest album. That'd be cool if it had the same vibe-- an odd time groove for 7 minutes.
Quote from: Formant on Aug 23, 2020, 03:30 AM
Quote from: Roidragee on Aug 23, 2020, 03:27 AM
Quote from: DenakDW on Aug 23, 2020, 02:43 AM
What song do you guys believe will be the next city? i bet it will be urantia or judging by the name maybe radiant city... even ceremony has single potential.
Urantia, Genesis, or Ceremony I think. I'm really interested in hearing what Radiant City sounds like though
Radiant City reminds me of Cloud City off Hum's latest album. That'd be cool if it had the same vibe-- an odd time groove for 7 minutes.
Its a short track compared to everything else on the album so im wondering if it'll be a Sextape type of song or a more aggressive song.
Please no naming the sample clip that Abe played on IG. Thanks. ( sorry just doing my job )
Almost a million views on the music video in two days. That's incredible!
Quote from: nicklav on Aug 23, 2020, 04:22 AM
Almost a million views on the music video in two days. That's incredible!
Really? That's very impressive, people are sure curious of new Deftones.
The Olms music video kinda reminds me of a Tool video.
That's awesome. They'll hit one million on Sunday for sure.
I must reiterate: I'm LOVING the dystopian futurism vibe they are on with the album cover, song titles like Error, This Link Is Dead (the title alone makes me think this song is about to be BONKERS), Radiant City, etc. and especially the stunning Ohms video. How about that crazy floating drone creature thing?
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 23, 2020, 04:40 AM
That's awesome. They'll hit one million on Sunday for sure.
I must reiterate: I'm LOVING the dystopian futurism vibe they are on with the album cover, song titles like Error, This Link Is Dead (the title alone makes me think this song is about to be BONKERS), Radiant City, etc. and especially the stunning Ohms video. How about that crazy floating drone creature thing?
Reminds me of City 17 from Half-Life 2, which makes it that much more awesome for me.
we're over a million boys
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/a3m0MurHUn4kaRc2gQHaWGFyhpzBnBmNHf0sy0kATHX3Z38roNZ32glUqMs5iv5G37r-K_qiZ2_k10I=s1393-nd)
Keep 'em coming!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDbj0oeAj0
Urantia will be the next single, 9.4
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 23, 2020, 08:11 AM
Urantia will be the next single, 9.4
That's mildly disappointing. Can't really say why I think so but it is what it is. All will be well on 9/25 though
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 23, 2020, 08:44 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 23, 2020, 08:11 AM
Urantia will be the next single, 9.4
That's mildly disappointing. Can't really say why I think so but it is what it is. All will be well on 9/25 though
Your judging that from a low quality phone recording?
This feels like the calm before the storm.
Will it be beach related tho? (internet sarcasm)
I see 46:17 as the runtime on Qobuz but when I add up the track times I get 44:17. What's going on here? Hidden track?
this month wait is gonna drag. but really, i can't believe they were right when they said sept. a lot of times they're 2 months off in the past
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 23, 2020, 04:34 PM
I see 46:17 as the runtime on Qobuz but when I add up the track times I get 44:17. What's going on here? Hidden track?
No I think you're just crap at maths.
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 23, 2020, 04:56 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 23, 2020, 04:34 PM
I see 46:17 as the runtime on Qobuz but when I add up the track times I get 44:17. What's going on here? Hidden track?
No I think you're just crap at maths.
Math is a Dick...
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 23, 2020, 04:56 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 23, 2020, 04:34 PM
I see 46:17 as the runtime on Qobuz but when I add up the track times I get 44:17. What's going on here? Hidden track?
No I think you're just crap at maths.
Lol I blame Google's calculator. I see where I went wrong. Sorry for the false alarm.
I was so worried about Steph and the 9 string.. just didn't want to hear chugga for the whole record. Not that the last 3 have been only that but I just haven't been as impressed with him since we lost Chi. I love his playing on Ohms. It's an upbeat jam. Good for Steph. 😎🙌🏻
i liked a lot of 2003 stuff on the DeftonesLive channel because it seems a lot of that era was missing for some reason for a long time.
Quote from: xtalaphextwin on Aug 23, 2020, 07:07 PM
i liked a lot of 2003 stuff on the DeftonesLive channel because it seems a lot of that era was missing for some reason for a long time.
It's some of the best live stuff they've ever done. I watch them over and over again.
How long is Spell of Mathematics?
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 23, 2020, 08:19 PM
How long is Spell of Mathematics?
Wikipedia says it's 5.27. Rumor says this song is so epic, that it will blow our heads away. Can't wait.
So some people heard 6 songs and I believe Ohms would be the 7th? So theoretically you've only got 3, maybe 4 songs you haven't heard. Without spoiling anything since I know we aren't about that here. Have you heard enough yet to say the songs are better overall than Gore? Equal? Worse? Or can't say since they haven't been heard in context and you're missing a few? I just want this album to be worth the wait! It's been so long. At least for me it has been.
It's different ;)
different indeed...
can I describe specific songs? Or no?... if not i'll just say... I think The Spell of Mathematics is going to be a song that grows on you and after this album cycle, it'll probably be a fan favorite.
also.... gahhh why does Chino go live on Mixlr so damn late ! Lol ;);)
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 24, 2020, 01:17 AM
It's different ;)
That's a shifty response man! But probably a fair one. I just can't figure out why he'd share 6 songs. SIX! From an upcoming album of only 10. That's really just insane to me. Aren't y'all disappointed? There's barely any album left to enjoy or be curious about. Not trying to be a dick at all. But in all honesty, aren't any of you disappointed?
Fantano really enjoyed Ohms. Thats cool. He just highlighted it in his best tracks of the week and gave a pretty glowing summary.
Quote from: Prty on Aug 24, 2020, 03:52 AM
Fantano really enjoyed Ohms. Thats cool. He just highlighted it in his best tracks of the week and gave a pretty glowing summary.
He seems to really enjoy the return of Terry Date's production. It'd be interesting for him to flip on his opinion on current Deftones with the new album. I guess we'll see...
Although of course the only important thing is if you yourself like it. It's just cool to see Deftones coming back big time from Gore, both from the fans and the critics like Fantano.
Yeah of course, I'd made up my mind already on liking Ohms but I'm a big music fan when it comes to a range of genres and a massive youtube consumer so obviously I dig his stuff, thought it was cool to see him high on my favourite band. The Date production really is just great so far. Plus there was like a whole page of fantano memes in the ohms pre release thread so thought it could do a mention here haha.
Quote from: Prty on Aug 24, 2020, 04:19 AM
Yeah of course, I'd made up my mind already on liking Ohms but I'm a big music fan when it comes to a range of genres and a massive youtube consumer so obviously I dig his stuff, thought it was cool to see him high on my favourite band. The Date production really is just great so far. Plus there was like a whole page of fantano memes in the ohms pre release thread so thought it could do a mention here haha.
Also a fan of his content. He mentioned in his "weekly track roundup" that he finds the Sergio-era albums to be over-produced. I don't necessarily agree, but he has a thing for more raw production when it comes to heavier music (I'm typically on that side, too). I totally agree with you on the production-- Date really is a 6th member of the band.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 24, 2020, 01:36 AM
different indeed...
can I describe specific songs? Or no?... if not i'll just say... I think The Spell of Mathematics is going to be a song that grows on you and after this album cycle, it'll probably be a fan favorite.
also.... gahhh why does Chino go live on Mixlr so damn late ! Lol ;);)
Agreed. It's always like 3+am my time. I wake up and see the alert the next day like F*Ck! I've been tuning in since he started like 7-8 years ago. Now I barely catch the sessions.
While I have serious FOMO ( and rightly so ) part of me is kind of glad I'll likely get to hear the full album on virgin ears.
Sorry if I missed it and it's already been posted, but Fantano gave Ohms a good review in his Weekly Track Roundup.
Timestamped here:
https://youtu.be/Kry0EYMuGgk?t=870
why is this random youtube dude mentioned constantly here
who cares
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 24, 2020, 05:27 AM
why is this random youtube dude mentioned constantly here
who cares
He must be either incredibly hated amongst the Deftones community or worshiped.
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 24, 2020, 05:27 AM
why is this random youtube dude mentioned constantly here
who cares
My bad, I'm just coming back to SL for the first time in a while, didn't realize he was so controversial around here. He's pretty well known, probably the best known music critic on YouTube, but he's just another critic.
Basically I only care about his opinion when it aligns with my own, ya feel me
Quote from: punkflop01 on Aug 24, 2020, 05:38 AM
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 24, 2020, 05:27 AM
why is this random youtube dude mentioned constantly here
who cares
really, i don't give a rats ass if he thought they were the worst band ever, or the best band ever. fuck'em
Fantano was taken to the hospital. He ate tide pods.
Stop talking about Anthony Shitstaino. Should be a bannable offense.
I never give a shit about these dickhead reviewers, if you like a band or an album, enjoy it, don't let someone else's opinion change yours
Quote from: plagasx on Aug 24, 2020, 06:19 AM
He must be either incredibly hated amongst the Deftones community or worshiped.
His opinions kind of seem to vary when it comes to Deftones.
When he reviewed Koi No Yokan, he said White Pony was that awesome album that every next releease was going to be compared to. He said the S/T lacked in melody and agreed on it not living up to White Pony for more reasons than just "It's not White Pony". He thought SNW was a bounce back in quality but DE was the album the S/T should have been. He said KNY had an air of deja-vu compared to DE, that What Happened To You? was underwhelming compared to their other closing tracks (I really couldn't agree more) and while he liked a few things, it felt like the band was playing it safe to him. That whole review was pretty laid back though and he didn't sound harsh.
Then came Gore. It's funny cause I agree on most of what he said about it (except about Acid Hologram) but still thought he sounded very harsh about it, went on to say it was better than DE, which he couldn't stand and was an album with a sound that was interesting a decade before it was released, and he also said he didn't care much about Adrenaline. About Gore he heavily criticised the production, the lack of compositional quality, and joined the overall review to his KNY saying that Chino played it safe vocally like they played it safe on KNY and DE. But again he came off very blunt about it and a lot of fans didn't like it.
He hasn't said anything about Around the Fur (which in my opinion is the best Deftones album), I'd imagine he doesn't care much about it just like he doesn't Adrenaline.
Quote from: Big Boss on Aug 24, 2020, 03:37 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 24, 2020, 01:17 AM
It's different ;)
That's a shifty response man! But probably a fair one. I just can't figure out why he'd share 6 songs. SIX! From an upcoming album of only 10. That's really just insane to me. Aren't y'all disappointed? There's barely any album left to enjoy or be curious about. Not trying to be a dick at all. But in all honesty, aren't any of you disappointed?
I'm quoting myself in hopes of getting a response ;)
Radio play here in the UK from Mary Anne Hobbs on BBC 6 Music right now as predicted!
Quote from: Shells on Aug 24, 2020, 02:55 PM
Radio play here in the UK from Mary Anne Hobbs on BBC 6 Music right now as predicted!
Yep I caught that also!
Quote from: Shells on Aug 24, 2020, 02:55 PM
Radio play here in the UK from Mary Anne Hobbs on BBC 6 Music right now as predicted!
Pretty cool! I don't think I've ever heard them on the radio!
Quote from: nicklav on Aug 23, 2020, 07:11 PM
Quote from: xtalaphextwin on Aug 23, 2020, 07:07 PM
i liked a lot of 2003 stuff on the DeftonesLive channel because it seems a lot of that era was missing for some reason for a long time.
It's some of the best live stuff they've ever done. I watch them over and over again.
Peak Deftones especially for live performances and overall moodiness. Sometimes I hate that they ever went that dark because I know nothing will ever compare to it again.
I don't hear them on the radio ever, because all we get here is oldies and country. That's it.
They usually get play on Sirius' Liquid Metal when they put out new music. Jose Mangin played Ohms on his songs of the week show.
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 24, 2020, 03:37 PM
Quote from: Shells on Aug 24, 2020, 02:55 PM
Radio play here in the UK from Mary Anne Hobbs on BBC 6 Music right now as predicted!
Pretty cool! I don't think I've ever heard them on the radio!
BBC 6 Music and the DJ is Mary Anne Hobbs, she used to present the Radio 1 Rock Show in the 90's and 2000's. She plays Deftones quite a lot in the daytime, I've heard her play Change, BQAD, Minerva and now Ohms. She is a fan of the band also
About 2003, I had the chance to discuss that recently on the Musically Meditated podcast. I hated the Wembley 2003 performance when I first watched it. It threw me off, I didn't like how Chino replaced the high notes on Digital Bath with those inhales, lots of things felt odd. I just didn't know any better at the time, I was a noob when it came to this band.
Today Wembley is my favorite Deftones recording. This whole era, specifically the second half of the year, has their most crafted performances (lightnings, transitions, etc.), and the performances were so very intense. There's this one particular performance of Digital Bath, in Montreal, where Chino pulls off the notes in a very different manner, I don't think he even did it out of this show. Very raw and powerful stuff.
And it's special because you know these raw performances happened because of the inner turmoil. I wouldn't want them to go through that again. But did it pay off musically!
Man I can't stop listening to Ohms. It's just a solid, straightforward and concise Deftones track. And it's been a long since a deftones video actually makes me love the song even more. So many of the black and white shots of the band would make great posters - especially the shot of Frank. Cannot contain my excitement for this album!
Agree, that era was like nothing they ever did again. I saw them perform when they were touring with Poison the Well and Denali. Watching the two opening acts the concert was amazing, but when Deftones came on stage the energy completely shifted. They opened with Hexagram and the performance/presentation was the rawest I've ever seen them put on. Fast forward to the BlackDiamondSkye tour and they're playing this huge open venue and it's just not the same. Though 2009 era was Chino at his best since a very long time. The days of them playing small music halls are virtually over but I still can't wait to seem them tour on this new album.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 24, 2020, 04:38 PM
About 2003, I had the chance to discuss that recently on the Musically Meditated podcast. I hated the Wembley 2003 performance when I first watched it. It threw me off, I didn't like how Chino replaced the high notes on Digital Bath with those inhales, lots of things felt odd. I just didn't know any better at the time, I was a noob when it came to this band.
Today Wembley is my favorite Deftones recording. This whole era, specifically the second half of the year, has their most crafted performances (lightnings, transitions, etc.), and the performances were so very intense. There's this one particular performance of Digital Bath, in Montreal, where Chino pulls off the notes in a very different manner, I don't think he even did it out of this show. Very raw and powerful stuff.
And it's special because you know these raw performances happened because of the inner turmoil. I wouldn't want them to go through that again. But did it pay off musically!
From the hype I got from the new song, I listened to Gore again, and I'm kind of worried because I really don't enjoy that album. I don't know if it's mostly because of the production, but a lot of these songs I'm tempted to just skip. Finger crossed I guess
Going through their catalog and Riviere is a monster of a song. It might be one of their best. Huge sounds, Chino on point vocally, with beautiful bass lines throughout from Chi. I can't seem to play it loud enough. I love SNW as it is, but if all that ever came out from that time period were Riviere I don't think I would complain.
they made 4 consecutive perfect records in atf, wp, st and snw, especially because you can follow the (d)evolution of the band so well. diamond eyes should've been their Glorious Resurgence, the band rising from the ashes, but i've been waiting 3 albums now for that feeling to take effect in the songs. really hoping this one does it
Yeah Riviere is a masterpiece. For me whole SNW is the top tier of their catalogue - combat, beware, rapture, cherry waves, kimdracula, riviere. These songs basically combine everything what I love this band for. Sadly most of the fans won't agree with me. I hope Ohms will let me feel the same thing...
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 24, 2020, 05:40 PM
they made 4 consecutive perfect records in atf, wp, st and snw, especially because you can follow the (d)evolution of the band so well. diamond eyes should've been their Glorious Resurgence, the band rising from the ashes, but i've been waiting 3 albums now for that feeling to take effect in the songs. really hoping this one does it
I don't know man. Diamond Eyes is pretty damn good. Better than ST and SNW. More consistent at least. Those are great albums but they have some duds. DE is concise and cohesive.
Penicks isn't really a fan of the post SNW records, same with Ves. I kind of like that there are people on this forum that go against the grain like that, even though most fans - including me - would disagree (I think DE and KNY are brilliant records). And of course there's a special love for the self-titled which I think is a top three Deftones album.
SNW vs. DE is a hard one to compare and I always bounce back and forth between which one is better. SNW has more experimental, stand-out songs, but DE is more cohesive, has more consistent production and Chino sounds like Chino instead of Cartman when he screams.
It's really interesting how divided Deftones fans are on their favorite albums, I'm not sure many other bands have that effect. Their fanbase is so diverse with many different type of people from different age ranges/musical tastes/backgrounds. You got hip hop heads, metal heads, indie hipsters, etc. etc. etc.
I could never fathom how anyone can feel that SNW or Gore was Deftones "best", but hey, to each their own. It's very subjective. Some folks are going to inevitably hate this new record while other will worship it. I've said it before but my favorite album is S/T but i think they did their technically best work on WP. Couldn't agree more about the above statement ^ on how their evolution is evident in their first four records. After that, idk what happened but maybe they got burned out. I mean, it's amazing they went as long as they have and still stayed fairly consistent. How many 90s bands can say they only had one or two stinkers in their whole discography and still have fans anxiously anticipating their ninth record?
I was just talking about this the other day with someone, how the psychology of Deftones fans (and music in general) would be an interesting topic to dive into if you're studying psychology. I think musical taste has a lot to do with several factors, the most important ones being: 1) personal preference 2) when/how you experienced it and 3) personal life experiences tied to the music. Those 3 things have great impact on how you love the music. For me, my personal preference usually tends to lean towards sounds from their earlier records but also my life experiences are tied to these as well and the timing of when/how I heard them are also affected. Some of my earliest (both best and worst relationships) were made during their earlier work, virginity was lost, and several new experiences accompanied by a Deftones soundscape. I'll always regard the first 4 as the absolute best but it doesn't mean I'm shut off from accepting the new sounds Deftones has to offer.
Also, Gore and SNW are just not their best lol. Fight me
Quote from: Draken on Aug 24, 2020, 06:18 PM
It's really interesting how divided Deftones fans are on their favorite albums, I'm not sure many other bands have that effect. Their fanbase is so diverse with many different type of people from different age ranges/musical tastes/backgrounds. You got hip hop heads, metal heads, indie hipsters, etc. etc. etc.
I think it's because they picked up a lot of new, younger fans with DE and KNY, so it makes sense that those fans would have those as their favorites while the older fans would be attached to the older stuff.
My main issue with the 2010's albums is the production. DE and Koi are produced by Nick Raskulinecz who is the Napoleon of saturation and Gore, was such a fuck up sound quality-wise it's almost sabotage. At the very least I can rest easy with Ohms knowing Terry Date is back.
Music wise, I pretty much love every album for what each has to offer and bring something new. Does Gore compete with an album like WP? Never by any shot, but they'll never ever do an album as brilliant and mezmerizing as WP. For a band, an album like this is a once-in-a-lifetime success. And I still love Gore except for a few songs that just don't ring any bells with me.
The band is way past its prime, but they still have some inspiration to put into new releases so I think it's good enough.
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 24, 2020, 05:40 PM
they made 4 consecutive perfect records in atf, wp, st and snw, especially because you can follow the (d)evolution of the band so well. diamond eyes should've been their Glorious Resurgence, the band rising from the ashes, but i've been waiting 3 albums now for that feeling to take effect in the songs. really hoping this one does it
Maybe they are just not interested in making the music you expect them to make. I wouldn't put that on the bands fault. you're just one fan, same for anyone else here. Gotta take what they give you and accept it or just move on, because that's who they are now and what they want to release. Doesn't make them bad albums, though Gore has arguably bad production.
The mix on Gore is bad, but it's still easily a more cohesive album than SNW. SNW from song to song sounds borderline schizophrenic to me. Also Beware has worse production than any song on Gore - fight me.
Absolutely, again this goes back to the diversity of fans (amazing a 90s band not only stayed relevant but became more so over time by their evolution) and personal preference/life experiences. Some folks found their first serious relationship listening to SNW (or pick any album) they learned to drive, etc. I remember driving until I literally got lost and just found my way back to a major highway to get home, back before GPS, Google Maps. I was listening to Deftones while I learned to drive.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:20 PM
Quote from: Draken on Aug 24, 2020, 06:18 PM
It's really interesting how divided Deftones fans are on their favorite albums, I'm not sure many other bands have that effect. Their fanbase is so diverse with many different type of people from different age ranges/musical tastes/backgrounds. You got hip hop heads, metal heads, indie hipsters, etc. etc. etc.
I think it's because they picked up a lot of new, younger fans with DE and KNY, so it makes sense that those fans would have those as their favorites while the older fans would be attached to the older stuff.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:28 PM
The mix on Gore is bad, but it's still easily a more cohesive album than SNW. SNW from song to song sounds borderline schizophrenic to me. Also Beware has worse production than any song on Gore - fight me.
You're not wrong. Beware is like the black sheep production wise... It's way lower in volume, and pretty much everything else...
Let's not forget that most of the band didn't get much of a say in what happened to that album as it was mostly Shaun Lopez and Chino working on it
I enjoyed DE, although not at first. It's Deftones more glossy, 'pretty' records but overall it's a good record. They wrote it in like 4 months, same as ATF. My favorite Sergio record.
I think Deftones can still produce that one AMAZING record. It might not be popular opinion but one of my favorite Cure records is Self Titled... their twelfth record.
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 24, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:28 PM
The mix on Gore is bad, but it's still easily a more cohesive album than SNW. SNW from song to song sounds borderline schizophrenic to me. Also Beware has worse production than any song on Gore - fight me.
You're not wrong. Beware is like the black sheep production wise... It's way lower in volume, and pretty much everything else...
Let's not forget that most of the band didn't get much of a say in what happened to that album as it was mostly Shaun Lopez and Chino working on it
I was gonna mention that. Even Stephen was complaining about Chino ruining the riff of Mein in "post-production".
The problems they were going through during SNW really reflects on the album...but still, the flashes of brilliance are some of their most brilliant.
SNW, DE and KNY, I enjoy all of those albums for different reasons, 3 different kinds of era's for the band. That said, I haven't played SNW in full for a while, so thats getting spun tonight!
I try and let go of album mixes these days as I have a tendency to focus on it too much and it ruins the enjoyment for me. Even with Ohms I started off by thinking the snare could be louder for my tastes but then had to stop myself, as I'll always have a love for 90s style mega loud snares which was 20+ years ago.
I suppose that I'll never be able to listen to an album without a preference here & there but it was getting ridiculous. I'll now just tinker with an EQ a bit and I'm happy.
Quote from: nineteen on Aug 24, 2020, 06:57 PM
I try and let go of album mixes these days as I have a tendency to focus on it too much and it ruins the enjoyment for me. Even with Ohms I started off by thinking the snare could be louder for my tastes but then had to stop myself as I'll always have a love for 90s style mega loud snares.
I suppose that I'll never be able to listen to an album without a preference here & there but it was getting ridiculous. I'll now just tinker with an EQ a bit and I'm happy.
I'm a sucker for loud snares also
It would be good in the future if Gore got a re-master & new mix, ideally by Terry Date
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 24, 2020, 06:59 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Aug 24, 2020, 06:57 PM
I try and let go of album mixes these days as I have a tendency to focus on it too much and it ruins the enjoyment for me. Even with Ohms I started off by thinking the snare could be louder for my tastes but then had to stop myself as I'll always have a love for 90s style mega loud snares.
I suppose that I'll never be able to listen to an album without a preference here & there but it was getting ridiculous. I'll now just tinker with an EQ a bit and I'm happy.
I'm a sucker for loud snares also
It would be good in the future if Gore got a re-master & new mix, ideally by Terry Date
I'm still very confused about the mix on Gore. I can't believe the band listened to it and were like: Yes, thats the sound we want to go with this time.
The mix on Gore is horrendous, maybe that style of production works for other bands but not Deftones. When Chino stated he was ripping off Morrissey's "Elvis-y delay" on his vocals I thought it sounded like it might be cool, but then when i heard the record it most definitely did not serve it well. Made his vocals sound tinny and unbearable imo.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 07:01 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 24, 2020, 06:59 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Aug 24, 2020, 06:57 PM
I try and let go of album mixes these days as I have a tendency to focus on it too much and it ruins the enjoyment for me. Even with Ohms I started off by thinking the snare could be louder for my tastes but then had to stop myself as I'll always have a love for 90s style mega loud snares.
I suppose that I'll never be able to listen to an album without a preference here & there but it was getting ridiculous. I'll now just tinker with an EQ a bit and I'm happy.
I'm a sucker for loud snares also
It would be good in the future if Gore got a re-master & new mix, ideally by Terry Date
I'm still very confused about the mix on Gore. I can't believe the band listened to it and were like: Yes, thats the sound we want to go with this time.
Gore was pushed back because they were unhappy with the mix and they tried different versions, I think. At a certain point it probably became "well, we have to put the album out soon" so they just went with it.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 24, 2020, 04:38 PM
About 2003, I had the chance to discuss that recently on the Musically Meditated podcast. I hated the Wembley 2003 performance when I first watched it. It threw me off, I didn't like how Chino replaced the high notes on Digital Bath with those inhales, lots of things felt odd. I just didn't know any better at the time, I was a noob when it came to this band.
Today Wembley is my favorite Deftones recording. This whole era, specifically the second half of the year, has their most crafted performances (lightnings, transitions, etc.), and the performances were so very intense. There's this one particular performance of Digital Bath, in Montreal, where Chino pulls off the notes in a very different manner, I don't think he even did it out of this show. Very raw and powerful stuff.
And it's special because you know these raw performances happened because of the inner turmoil. I wouldn't want them to go through that again. But did it pay off musically!
That Montreal DB is my favorite of all Time V!!! It's slower paced and absolutely brutal.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 24, 2020, 05:44 PM
Yeah Riviere is a masterpiece. For me whole SNW is the top tier of their catalogue - combat, beware, rapture, cherry waves, kimdracula, riviere. These songs basically combine everything what I love this band for. Sadly most of the fans won't agree with me. I hope Ohms will let me feel the same thing...
FWIW I 100% agree with you. Those tracks hit me hard at my core. I am very optimistic about ohms delivering similar.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 05:08 PM
From the hype I got from the new song, I listened to Gore again, and I'm kind of worried because I really don't enjoy that album. I don't know if it's mostly because of the production, but a lot of these songs I'm tempted to just skip. Finger crossed I guess
the Buflen? Mario Maker Buflen?
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 24, 2020, 06:13 PM
Penicks isn't really a fan of the post SNW records, same with Ves. I kind of like that there are people on this forum that go against the grain like that, even though most fans - including me - would disagree (I think DE and KNY are brilliant records). And of course there's a special love for the self-titled which I think is a top three Deftones album.
i kind of appreciate the fans like them more than i used to as well. i don't think they're saying the other albums sucked either, just that they're not hitting them the same way. i respect that. luckily i really like/love all the albums, but certainly have an order for them. i acutally think Crosses is probably the 3rd best album Chino's made(ATF and WP 1st and 2nd). doubt many people agree. everyone's opinion is right to them, not really a big deal
if i had to rank Chino's discography
1. Around the Fur
2. White Pony
3. Crosses
4. Diamond eyes
5. Adrenaline (i started with adrenaline, in late 1995, i don't care if Chino isn't crazy about it)
6. Like Linus (yea i count like linus 12 tracks i put on a cd, lol)
7. Palms
8. s/t
9. Gore
10. Team Sleep (including the 2002 demos)
11. Saturday night wrist
12. Koi no yokan (something had to be last, but i'm a diehard and really like this album a lot. all of them)
still my fav band for sure. 20-25 years ago i used to listen to them almost daily, but the past 15 years or so i only listen to deftones a few times a year, kinda keeps it all very fresh, and more exciting to hear, cause i don't over play them
Quote from: nicklav on Aug 24, 2020, 05:30 PM
Going through their catalog and Riviere is a monster of a song. It might be one of their best. Huge sounds, Chino on point vocally, with beautiful bass lines throughout from Chi. I can't seem to play it loud enough. I love SNW as it is, but if all that ever came out from that time period were Riviere I don't think I would complain.
yes, Riviere would be my favorite from SNW as well
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 07:01 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 24, 2020, 06:59 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Aug 24, 2020, 06:57 PM
I try and let go of album mixes these days as I have a tendency to focus on it too much and it ruins the enjoyment for me. Even with Ohms I started off by thinking the snare could be louder for my tastes but then had to stop myself as I'll always have a love for 90s style mega loud snares.
I suppose that I'll never be able to listen to an album without a preference here & there but it was getting ridiculous. I'll now just tinker with an EQ a bit and I'm happy.
I'm a sucker for loud snares also
It would be good in the future if Gore got a re-master & new mix, ideally by Terry Date
I'm still very confused about the mix on Gore. I can't believe the band listened to it and were like: Yes, thats the sound we want to go with this time.
i dont get it either, the louder it's played, the worse it sounds. i like the songs, but that mix is rough. i tried to jam "doomed user" loud as hell one time in the car, and it just sounded bad, and i had to turn it down a bit. and yea "Beware" might be even worse sounding mix wise
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 24, 2020, 10:19 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 05:08 PM
From the hype I got from the new song, I listened to Gore again, and I'm kind of worried because I really don't enjoy that album. I don't know if it's mostly because of the production, but a lot of these songs I'm tempted to just skip. Finger crossed I guess
the Buflen? Mario Maker Buflen?
Yes. it's me.
I was not expecting to be recognized with this name here. I used to post on the old and retired Deftones official board, and had multiple account here since the very beginning. I forgot my password so I registered again under this name.
Quick write-up:
I actually like Saturday Night Wrist, quite a lot. I bought it in 2007 after catching the Hole in the Earth promo clip on YouTube. I remember thinking that was the most directly emotional Chino had sounded (from the little I knew about) if that makes sense, and the composition sounded very fresh, I loved Frank's ambient and the outro breakdown hit me deep.
The Konami Code is one of the Deftones songs I've overplayed to death (and there aren't as many as you'd think for someone like me). Something about it was different while still sounding very Deftones. Some kind of peaceful innocence mixed with the surrounding melancholy, I don't really have the words. I even remember trying to figure out piano at the time, and I had come up with my own version of the song. No credit to me obviously, it sounded beautiful on piano.
And for as disjointed as the band was and how pieced together to writing process was, I still don't feel the album is as disjointed as many people think. There's only one point in the sequence where I'm thrown off, is the Konami Code into Xerces. I like both tracks (though Xerces may be my least favorite SNW song), but the lack of transition there doesn't work for me. You'd think it's a very Deftones move to go like this, I just don't think it worked that well in that case. And then going into Rats! after that is debatable too. I do like Rats! though. I remember someone on here criticising the very simple lyricism, but the feeling of anger came out really well and sincere. It's definitely in their few all-time heaviest cuts and it didn't feel heavy for the sake of being heavy. That's something for a metal band imo. Hell, does anyone remember another instance of Deftones playing fucking death metal? Someone said Gore felt more cohevise than SNW... I disagree.
Hell, Pink Cellphone used to be the running gag of this forum. I actually did like Pink Cellphone. I thought, for as random as it sounded, it really fitted Saturday Night Wrist. I still think stuff like that and The Konami Code could be played live with success if done correctly.
Kimdracula still is one of my favorite songs. This texture, are you kidding me? It's one of those few songs where you know you can't put this band in a box no matter how hard you try.
Combat comes as a personal preference since I witnessed first hands the only time they pulled it off in front of an audience. I liked it a lot when I first heard it too.
And Riviere. Fucking Riviere man. I didn't notice it on the first few listens, felt like that mandatory ballad by an otherwise heavy band, but holy shit. Those guitar chords hit right when they need to. Chino's vocals come off very sincere and almost fragile. Makes me tear up every time, I'm not ashamed. Absolutely my favorite SNW track and in my top 5 Deftones songs. I may or may not have played a tiny role in them starting playing it live during the KNY cycle, I'll never know.
My two main problems with Saturday Night Wrist are, for one, its touring cycle. I'll never blame a man for gaining weight, I'm not a fucking gossip magazine worker, and I can't be THAT shallow. But how they had all put on weight, especially Chino, was a sign that all those dark years had taken their toll. Stephen admitted, in an interview after the release of SNW, that Chino had a really hard time singing, and he felt very bad for him. It's not to say all the shows sucked, and none of them did from start to end, there was just this inconsistency. Most of the time (not all the time), they'd sound good for a minute and get tired the next minute, and you could hear it if you paid attention (which, as an off-the-record archivist, I did). Don't get me wrong: there are many great performances in the SNW cycle.
My second problem is knowing the potential that was wasted into this. We all know the production could have been a lot better and in fact, was going to be a lot better: they had fucking Bob Ezrin working with them. Sure enough a couple of you don't know, there's a bunch of demos they made with him, they're all available on YouTube. Had they gone through with him and completed these songs and come up with one decent sequence... this album was going to be on another level. We all know it. Stephen knew it at the time and was probably pissed over it.
I'll finish this very biased review with my favorite performance of Rats which, in my opinion, represents what I just said really well. Up until the first chorus, Chino is almost studio-like: the screams, the highs, the rasp, to the point it gives me the biggest chills. After that... it gets inconsistent. Again, don't twist my words. The rest of the band is top-notch through and through, but Deftones songs have always relied a lot on Chino. If he doesn't sound as good, the whole music takes the toll. Hope you get what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXquohLxF3Q
Watching chino "perform" in the SNW era was kinda sad.
that's an awesome review Ves. SNW is my personal favorite, and while I love the clarity and sharpness of the Terry Date albums (S/T is my 2nd fave) I like the contrast it has with them. DE/KNY are great albums but for me they're polished in a way that kind of hides some of the nuance in their stuff tbh.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 24, 2020, 11:38 PM
Quick write-up:
I actually like Saturday Night Wrist, quite a lot. I bought it in 2007 after catching the Hole in the Earth promo clip on YouTube. I remember thinking that was the most directly emotional Chino had sounded (from the little I knew about) if that makes sense, and the composition sounded very fresh, I loved Frank's ambient and the outro breakdown hit me deep.
The Konami Code is one of the Deftones songs I've overplayed to death (and there aren't as many as you'd think for someone like me). Something about it was different while still sounding very Deftones. Some kind of peaceful innocence mixed with the surrounding melancholy, I don't really have the words. I even remember trying to figure out piano at the time, and I had come up with my own version of the song. No credit to me obviously, it sounded beautiful on piano.
And for as disjointed as the band was and how pieced together to writing process was, I still don't feel the album is as disjointed as many people think. There's only one point in the sequence where I'm thrown off, is the Konami Code into Xerces. I like both tracks (though Xerces may be my least favorite SNW song), but the lack of transition there doesn't work for me. You'd think it's a very Deftones move to go like this, I just don't think it worked that well in that case. And then going into Rats! after that is debatable too. I do like Rats! though. I remember someone on here criticising the very simple lyricism, but the feeling of anger came out really well and sincere. It's definitely in their few all-time heaviest cuts and it didn't feel heavy for the sake of being heavy. That's something for a metal band imo. Hell, does anyone remember another instance of Deftones playing fucking death metal? Someone said Gore felt more cohevise than SNW... I disagree.
Hell, Pink Cellphone used to be the running gag of this forum. I actually did like Pink Cellphone. I thought, for as random as it sounded, it really fitted Saturday Night Wrist. I still think stuff like that and The Konami Code could be played live with success if done correctly.
Kimdracula still is one of my favorite songs. This texture, are you kidding me? It's one of those few songs where you know you can't put this band in a box no matter how hard you try.
Combat comes as a personal preference since I witnessed first hands the only time they pulled it off in front of an audience. I liked it a lot when I first heard it too.
And Riviere. Fucking Riviere man. I didn't notice it on the first few listens, felt like that mandatory ballad by an otherwise heavy band, but holy shit. Those guitar chords hit right when they need to. Chino's vocals come off very sincere and almost fragile. Makes me tear up every time, I'm not ashamed. Absolutely my favorite SNW track and in my top 5 Deftones songs. I may or may not have played a tiny role in them starting playing it live during the KNY cycle, I'll never know.
My two main problems with Saturday Night Wrist are, for one, its touring cycle. I'll never blame a man for gaining weight, I'm not a fucking gossip magazine worker, and I can't be THAT shallow. But how they had all put on weight, especially Chino, was a sign that all those dark years had taken their toll. Stephen admitted, in an interview after the release of SNW, that Chino had a really hard time singing, and he felt very bad for him. It's not to say all the shows sucked, and none of them did from start to end, there was just this inconsistency. Most of the time (not all the time), they'd sound good for a minute and get tired the next minute, and you could hear it if you paid attention (which, as an off-the-record archivist, I did). Don't get me wrong: there are many great performances in the SNW cycle.
My second problem is knowing the potential that was wasted into this. We all know the production could have been a lot better and in fact, was going to be a lot better: they had fucking Bob Ezrin working with them. Sure enough a couple of you don't know, there's a bunch of demos they made with him, they're all available on YouTube. Had they gone through with him and completed these songs and come up with one decent sequence... this album was going to be on another level. We all know it. Stephen knew it at the time and was probably pissed over it.
I'll finish this very biased review with my favorite performance of Rats which, in my opinion, represents what I just said really well. Up until the first chorus, Chino is almost studio-like: the screams, the highs, the rasp, to the point it gives me the biggest chills. After that... it gets inconsistent. Again, don't twist my words. The rest of the band is top-notch through and through, but Deftones songs have always relied a lot on Chino. If he doesn't sound as good, the whole music takes the toll. Hope you get what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXquohLxF3Q
i almost wanna say they played Combat and the boy's republics live for you alone, lol. probably riviere too. didn't you and a few other people from here send some of them messages about playing more rare stuff? now if you can just twist their arm into playing pink maggit
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 11:36 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 24, 2020, 10:19 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 05:08 PM
From the hype I got from the new song, I listened to Gore again, and I'm kind of worried because I really don't enjoy that album. I don't know if it's mostly because of the production, but a lot of these songs I'm tempted to just skip. Finger crossed I guess
the Buflen? Mario Maker Buflen?
Yes. it's me.
I was not expecting to be recognized with this name here. I used to post on the old and retired Deftones official board, and had multiple account here since the very beginning. I forgot my password so I registered again under this name.
i used to post their too. i spent so much time on there.i also came here in the first few weeks of the board. their was a different deftonesworld board before this one as well, and was replaced with this one in 2004. cool that you're a big deftones fan. a lot of your levels are named after bands or songs(like ohms, digital bath, etc) i've noticed. loved the 4ymm level. i've probably put 3,000 hours into smm1 and 2 combined, lol
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 25, 2020, 12:30 AM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 11:36 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 24, 2020, 10:19 PM
Quote from: buflen on Aug 24, 2020, 05:08 PM
From the hype I got from the new song, I listened to Gore again, and I'm kind of worried because I really don't enjoy that album. I don't know if it's mostly because of the production, but a lot of these songs I'm tempted to just skip. Finger crossed I guess
the Buflen? Mario Maker Buflen?
Yes. it's me.
I was not expecting to be recognized with this name here. I used to post on the old and retired Deftones official board, and had multiple account here since the very beginning. I forgot my password so I registered again under this name.
i used to post their too. i spent so much time on there.i also came here in the first few weeks of the board. their was a different deftonesworld board before this one as well, and was replaced with this one in 2004. cool that you're a big deftones fan. a lot of your levels are named after bands or songs(like ohms, digital bath, etc) i've noticed. loved the 4ymm level. i've probably put 3,000 hours into smm1 and 2, lol
thats my old school name, forgot password is a thing that exists haha. I ended up waiting 2 years to register I guess, but I was reading it. Maybe you might remember me. And thanks, that level took me forever to make, I probably has as much time on the game as you, maybe more. Anyway moving on, this is very out of topic.
I was at that show in Atlanta! They opened with Rats! Rats! Rats! and I arrived late to the venue so I missed most of the opening act Deadsy but I did get to listen to them close with Flowing Glower which was absolutely amazing. I love that song.
Vesanic, great interview btw ^ I can't believe I saw Deftones live before you haha.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 24, 2020, 11:38 PM
Quick write-up:
I actually like Saturday Night Wrist, quite a lot. I bought it in 2007 after catching the Hole in the Earth promo clip on YouTube. I remember thinking that was the most directly emotional Chino had sounded (from the little I knew about) if that makes sense, and the composition sounded very fresh, I loved Frank's ambient and the outro breakdown hit me deep.
The Konami Code is one of the Deftones songs I've overplayed to death (and there aren't as many as you'd think for someone like me). Something about it was different while still sounding very Deftones. Some kind of peaceful innocence mixed with the surrounding melancholy, I don't really have the words. I even remember trying to figure out piano at the time, and I had come up with my own version of the song. No credit to me obviously, it sounded beautiful on piano.
And for as disjointed as the band was and how pieced together to writing process was, I still don't feel the album is as disjointed as many people think. There's only one point in the sequence where I'm thrown off, is the Konami Code into Xerces. I like both tracks (though Xerces may be my least favorite SNW song), but the lack of transition there doesn't work for me. You'd think it's a very Deftones move to go like this, I just don't think it worked that well in that case. And then going into Rats! after that is debatable too. I do like Rats! though. I remember someone on here criticising the very simple lyricism, but the feeling of anger came out really well and sincere. It's definitely in their few all-time heaviest cuts and it didn't feel heavy for the sake of being heavy. That's something for a metal band imo. Hell, does anyone remember another instance of Deftones playing fucking death metal? Someone said Gore felt more cohevise than SNW... I disagree.
Hell, Pink Cellphone used to be the running gag of this forum. I actually did like Pink Cellphone. I thought, for as random as it sounded, it really fitted Saturday Night Wrist. I still think stuff like that and The Konami Code could be played live with success if done correctly.
Kimdracula still is one of my favorite songs. This texture, are you kidding me? It's one of those few songs where you know you can't put this band in a box no matter how hard you try.
Combat comes as a personal preference since I witnessed first hands the only time they pulled it off in front of an audience. I liked it a lot when I first heard it too.
And Riviere. Fucking Riviere man. I didn't notice it on the first few listens, felt like that mandatory ballad by an otherwise heavy band, but holy shit. Those guitar chords hit right when they need to. Chino's vocals come off very sincere and almost fragile. Makes me tear up every time, I'm not ashamed. Absolutely my favorite SNW track and in my top 5 Deftones songs. I may or may not have played a tiny role in them starting playing it live during the KNY cycle, I'll never know.
My two main problems with Saturday Night Wrist are, for one, its touring cycle. I'll never blame a man for gaining weight, I'm not a fucking gossip magazine worker, and I can't be THAT shallow. But how they had all put on weight, especially Chino, was a sign that all those dark years had taken their toll. Stephen admitted, in an interview after the release of SNW, that Chino had a really hard time singing, and he felt very bad for him. It's not to say all the shows sucked, and none of them did from start to end, there was just this inconsistency. Most of the time (not all the time), they'd sound good for a minute and get tired the next minute, and you could hear it if you paid attention (which, as an off-the-record archivist, I did). Don't get me wrong: there are many great performances in the SNW cycle.
My second problem is knowing the potential that was wasted into this. We all know the production could have been a lot better and in fact, was going to be a lot better: they had fucking Bob Ezrin working with them. Sure enough a couple of you don't know, there's a bunch of demos they made with him, they're all available on YouTube. Had they gone through with him and completed these songs and come up with one decent sequence... this album was going to be on another level. We all know it. Stephen knew it at the time and was probably pissed over it.
I'll finish this very biased review with my favorite performance of Rats which, in my opinion, represents what I just said really well. Up until the first chorus, Chino is almost studio-like: the screams, the highs, the rasp, to the point it gives me the biggest chills. After that... it gets inconsistent. Again, don't twist my words. The rest of the band is top-notch through and through, but Deftones songs have always relied a lot on Chino. If he doesn't sound as good, the whole music takes the toll. Hope you get what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXquohLxF3Q
As far as production, song writing, performance, and overall style nothing will ever top White Pony. Every second counts on that record, and every second is perfect. There is not one single weak or boring moment. A trip of a record, and in my opinion the greatest record I have ever heard in my life.
If WP was the cool vision of the future, ST was the band's knucklehead past that was somehow released after its predecessor. Much like the Beatles and Madonna, the band reinvented themselves yet again in an extremely interesting way. Another record, where each song stands on its own yet all relate back to each other. Their sound, look, and songwriting evolved in such a fundamental way. Sometimes it's hard to believe it's the same band.
SNW is where they started repeating themselves a little bit, and it was a bit painful to watch. There are some brilliant compositions on the record, like Kimdrac, Combat, and Beware, but there are some horrifying moments too like Rapture. Xerces bores the shit outta me. And I still shake my head every time I hear those four punchy notes from the main riff of HITE. I personally appreciate Pink Cellphone except where the nonsense begins.
DE was a phenomenal, hopeful, and unlikely return for the band. Royal is truly their Phoenix rising. I enjoy other tracks but do not appreciate in the same way as their previous works. Maybe they lack a bit of depth or originality? Some stuff sounds like an update of something from the past: Sextape / Digital Bath, Cmd/Ctrl / Rats, Beauty School / Minerva, etc. There's also this weird thing in the songwriting where the verses are far catchier and memorable than the choruses - 976, Royal, and Cmd/Ctrl come to mind. Also screaming "Guns! Razors! Knives!" never did much for me and just came off a little silly.
KNY sounds like it was recorded back-to-back with Diamond Eyes. I struggle to enjoy much on this record. Tempest and Rosemary are fine Deftones songs. Leathers has one of the best pre/choruses ever written by the band, but the guitar work does not sound like Stef - it sounds like they hired some younger guy to write that riff, but it certainly kicks ass. I still can't believe they titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
Gore is a bit forgettable overall. Many complain about the mix/production, but to me it's the underlying songs and performances that are just middling. I will say, though, Geo has a brilliant chorus. Acid is trying hard to be interesting. Hearts/Wires and Phantom Bride are also somewhat very strong songs.
Honestly not feeling this new song at all. It does nothing for me. It sounds very safe. And I'm really hoping the rest of the album fares better.
As far as pre-WP, I still cannot get over the riff and lyrics in BQAD. Mascara is another one that showed Deftones were in a league of their own. And on Adrenaline, Root is my jam <3
I listened to White Pony start to finish a few months ago for the anniversary... that record still sounds 20 years ahead of current time. So futuristic and creative. It will forever be their crown and jewel. I would just love to hear some new sounds on this record. This is my favorite band because they always push the envelope while still sounding like Deftones. I just have a feeling this will be the best record of the Sergio Era. I know they can still make a banging record. Ohms is a great start.
Still a little bummed it's the closer... wish they would have given us a different song first. But oh well. Great tunes ahead!
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 25, 2020, 04:05 AM
As far as production, song writing, performance, and overall style nothing will ever top White Pony. Every second counts on that record, and every second is perfect. There is not one single weak or boring moment. A trip of a record, and in my opinion the greatest record I have ever heard in my life.
If WP was the cool vision of the future, ST was the band's knucklehead past that was somehow released after its predecessor. Much like the Beatles and Madonna, the band reinvented themselves yet again in an extremely interesting way. Another record, where each song stands on its own yet all relate back to each other. Their sound, look, and songwriting evolved in such a fundamental way. Sometimes it's hard to believe it's the same band.
SNW is where they started repeating themselves a little bit, and it was a bit painful to watch. There are some brilliant compositions on the record, like Kimdrac, Combat, and Beware, but there are some horrifying moments too like Rapture. Xerces bores the shit outta me. And I still shake my head every time I hear those four punchy notes from the main riff of HITE. I personally appreciate Pink Cellphone except where the nonsense begins.
DE was a phenomenal, hopeful, and unlikely return for the band. Royal is truly their Phoenix rising. I enjoy other tracks but do not appreciate in the same way as their previous works. Maybe they lack a bit of depth or originality? Some stuff sounds like an update of something from the past: Sextape / Digital Bath, Cmd/Ctrl / Rats, Beauty School / Minerva, etc. There's also this weird thing in the songwriting where the verses are far catchier and memorable than the choruses - 976, Royal, and Cmd/Ctrl come to mind. Also screaming "Guns! Razors! Knives!" never did much for me and just came off a little silly.
KNY sounds like it was recorded back-to-back with Diamond Eyes. I struggle to enjoy much on this record. Tempest and Rosemary are fine Deftones songs. Leathers has one of the best pre/choruses ever written by the band, but the guitar work does not sound like Stef - it sounds like they hired some younger guy to write that riff, but it certainly kicks ass. I still can't believe they titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
Gore is a bit forgettable overall. Many complain about the mix/production, but to me it's the underlying songs and performances that are just middling. I will say, though, Geo has a brilliant chorus. Acid is trying hard to be interesting. Hearts/Wires and Phantom Bride are also somewhat very strong songs.
Honestly not feeling this new song at all. It does nothing for me. It sounds very safe. And I'm really hoping the rest of the album fares better.
As far as pre-WP, I still cannot get over the riff and lyrics in BQAD. Mascara is another one that showed Deftones were in a league of their own. And on Adrenaline, Root is my jam <3
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, your expectations seem way too high and sound super picky. After 25+ years a band is bound to have songs that reminds of previous ones.
I have SNW on now, in HD audio, not listened to the album in full for a longtime, it's sooo fucking good
I've got a feeling this album won't leak. It may leak a day before like the single but that's about it. Even if it did, with the announcement so close to the release date would a leak even interest anyone? I kind of like the short turnaround
Quote from: Big Boss on Aug 25, 2020, 03:19 PM
I've got a feeling this album won't leak. It may leak a day before like the single but that's about it. Even if it did, with the announcement so close to the release date would a leak even interest anyone? I kind of like the short turnaround
The gold vinyl I have pre-ordered says it's due to ship to me on the day of release, which I thought was odd
Quote from: Big Boss on Aug 25, 2020, 03:19 PM
Even if it did, with the announcement so close to the release date would a leak even interest anyone?
Maybe not a lot of people (that's debatable), I think it would though. Lots of people out there like to have that one pre-release leak, there's some kind of sentimental value to it, like a special edition.
I think there were lots of lessons to learn. Deftones have a long history of having their stuff leaked, and so much has leaked since the internet became a thing. Tool got their album leaked a couple of days prior to the release, same for Glassjaw. I would be surprised if Ohms didn't leak before a "Friday leak" from NZ. But it does seem like they got their stuff on check this time around, I'm keeping positive.
In response to mandalay, I just wanted to second Geometric Headdress having a fantastic chorus. The rest of the song isn't as fantastic by comparison, though I still like it. But that chorus always felt like signature Deftones to me. I specifically like when they extend it by a few measures at the end and Chino sings "Now relate like I relate". The high intensity way they close out the song is pretty great too.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
Quote from: Big Boss on Aug 25, 2020, 03:19 PM
Even if it did, with the announcement so close to the release date would a leak even interest anyone?
Maybe not a lot of people (that's debatable), I think it would though. Lots of people out there like to have that one pre-release leak, there's some kind of sentimental value to it, like a special edition.
I think there were lots of lessons to learn. Deftones have a long history of having their stuff leaked, and so much has leaked since the internet became a thing. Tool got their album leaked a couple of days prior to the release, same for Glassjaw. I would be surprised if Ohms didn't leak before a "Friday leak" from NZ. But it does seem like they got their stuff on check this time around, I'm keeping positive.
To be honest, if the album leaked even a few days before release I'd probably still listen to it haha. I know that probably bothers a lot of the anti-leak crowd, but whatever.
Speaking of Glassjaw, if I remember correctly, weren't you doing some archiving of Glassjaw shows at some point Ves?
I did. It's called Glassjaw.info, it's only on YouTube. It was in reference to the follow-up forum to Glassjaw.net, but that new forum ended up being spammed to death by ad bots.
I had a different approach where I archived every single video on YouTube in a chronology, not just my uploads like I do for Deftones. The reason is Glassjaw has a lot less material on YouTube.
I didn't follow up after 2017 however. I've uploaded a couple of shows myself here and there, and I recorded them a couple of times. I'll probably get back to it at some point but Glassjaw is a different thing. The Pukkelpop proshot makes up for it, such a brilliant recording.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 25, 2020, 03:54 PM
In response to mandalay, I just wanted to second Geometric Headdress having a fantastic chorus. The rest of the song isn't as fantastic by comparison, though I still like it. But that chorus always felt like signature Deftones to me. I specifically like when they extend it by a few measures at the end and Chino sings "Now relate like I relate". The high intensity way they close out the song is pretty great too.
It's definitely the best and most "deftones sounding" part of the album. But the song is kind of all over the place beside that imo.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 25, 2020, 04:00 PM
I did. It's called Glassjaw.info, it's only on YouTube. It was in reference to the follow-up forum to Glassjaw.net, but that new forum ended up being spammed to death by ad bots.
I had a different approach where I archived every single video on YouTube in a chronology, not just my uploads like I do for Deftones. The reason is Glassjaw has a lot less material on YouTube.
I didn't follow up after 2017 however. I've uploaded a couple of shows myself here and there, and I recorded them a couple of times. I'll probably get back to it at some point but Glassjaw is a different thing. The Pukkelpop proshot makes up for it, such a brilliant recording.
Thanks for letting me know, I'll definitely be sure to subscribe in case you ever decide to upload some more. But yeah, that Pukkelpop show is great, definitely one of the best ones they've done in this whole Material Control era. Did you by chance have any GJ shows from the tour where they were supporting Deftones?
IDK if it means anything or if this has been pointed out yet but Chuck Doom's IG posts all have Urantia as the location. Someone please fill me in...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4G0oShnxrI
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 25, 2020, 04:17 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 25, 2020, 04:00 PM
I did. It's called Glassjaw.info, it's only on YouTube. It was in reference to the follow-up forum to Glassjaw.net, but that new forum ended up being spammed to death by ad bots.
I had a different approach where I archived every single video on YouTube in a chronology, not just my uploads like I do for Deftones. The reason is Glassjaw has a lot less material on YouTube.
I didn't follow up after 2017 however. I've uploaded a couple of shows myself here and there, and I recorded them a couple of times. I'll probably get back to it at some point but Glassjaw is a different thing. The Pukkelpop proshot makes up for it, such a brilliant recording.
Thanks for letting me know, I'll definitely be sure to subscribe in case you ever decide to upload some more. But yeah, that Pukkelpop show is great, definitely one of the best ones they've done in this whole Material Control era. Did you by chance have any GJ shows from the tour where they were supporting Deftones?
From the 2000 one, only a couple in audio. From the 2006, I uploaded an audio one, from Detroit, and added the YouTube clips to it. I wish I had more, that tour is my favorite, Daryl was a vocal beast!
Quote from: Draken on Aug 25, 2020, 04:25 PM
IDK if it means anything or if this has been pointed out yet but Chuck Doom's IG posts all have Urantia as the location. Someone please fill me in...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4G0oShnxrI
It's been going on for weeks now, since way before that track title was officially announced. It started happening only a day or so after someone plugged the leaked track into that AHA song identifier thing and was given Urantia as the title. So it was either just a way of teasing the rabid fans as a "we know that you know" sort of a thing, or Chuck just liked the title and thought nobody would really think twice about it. Idk, either way I don't think there's much to look into there.
Perhaps. Could be the next single? Maybe he's just saying Earth in another way...
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 25, 2020, 03:54 PM
In response to mandalay, I just wanted to second Geometric Headdress having a fantastic chorus. The rest of the song isn't as fantastic by comparison, though I still like it. But that chorus always felt like signature Deftones to me. I specifically like when they extend it by a few measures at the end and Chino sings "Now relate like I relate". The high intensity way they close out the song is pretty great too.
I'm a sucker for an extended chorus, or a first chorus that never real takes off and then explodes/expands the second time! Deftones have truly mastered this in many of their songs.
Maybe! Honestly, I thought it was going to be the first single, but they threw me a curveball with Ohms. Urantia is the only leak I've heard, and I can definitely say it would make for a good single. It's just got that classic Deftones feel to it, at least to my ears.
Quote from: mandalay on Aug 25, 2020, 05:06 PM
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 25, 2020, 03:54 PM
In response to mandalay, I just wanted to second Geometric Headdress having a fantastic chorus. The rest of the song isn't as fantastic by comparison, though I still like it. But that chorus always felt like signature Deftones to me. I specifically like when they extend it by a few measures at the end and Chino sings "Now relate like I relate". The high intensity way they close out the song is pretty great too.
I'm a sucker for an extended chorus, or a first chorus that never real takes off and then explodes/expands the second time! Deftones have truly mastered this in many of their songs.
Totally, I completely agree. Rosemary is perhaps my favorite example, with the whole "we play in dreams" extended chorus. I also love it in Battle-Axe with the "Well I'd love to think you will someday feel the same" part
If recent intel is legit, 2nd single should be out next week. And then just 3 looooong weeks until the album after that!
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 25, 2020, 05:19 PM
If recent intel is legit, 2nd single should be out next week. And then just 3 looooong weeks until the album after that!
:)
Diamond Eyes just passed 16m views on Youtube, which is nice. I remember it being below 10m during the Gore cycle. I wonder how many of those thousands of recent views are from people going through their catalogue due to Ohms hype (like myself)
Chino seems to be dipping into the history bag for some of these song titles, such as Radiant City:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ville_Radieuse
Is this classic book the inspiration for the song title?
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/a8/82/95/a88295dd1c3908dc336d43c3588540e0.jpg)
Anyone else seen Deftones latest Facebook story? It's in the same style as the lyric clues from last week but says stream Ohms on Spotify's Rock This playlist. Just advertising or more canvas art if you do as the story says?
Quote from: SianMX on Aug 25, 2020, 07:26 PM
Anyone else seen Deftones latest Facebook story? It's in the same style as the lyric clues from last week but says stream Ohms on Spotify's Rock This playlist. Just advertising or more canvas art if you do as the story says?
It just tells you to listen to the song on spotify. Pretty straight forward.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 24, 2020, 11:38 PM
Quick write-up:
I actually like Saturday Night Wrist, quite a lot. I bought it in 2007 after catching the Hole in the Earth promo clip on YouTube. I remember thinking that was the most directly emotional Chino had sounded (from the little I knew about) if that makes sense, and the composition sounded very fresh, I loved Frank's ambient and the outro breakdown hit me deep.
The Konami Code is one of the Deftones songs I've overplayed to death (and there aren't as many as you'd think for someone like me). Something about it was different while still sounding very Deftones. Some kind of peaceful innocence mixed with the surrounding melancholy, I don't really have the words. I even remember trying to figure out piano at the time, and I had come up with my own version of the song. No credit to me obviously, it sounded beautiful on piano.
And for as disjointed as the band was and how pieced together to writing process was, I still don't feel the album is as disjointed as many people think. There's only one point in the sequence where I'm thrown off, is the Konami Code into Xerces. I like both tracks (though Xerces may be my least favorite SNW song), but the lack of transition there doesn't work for me. You'd think it's a very Deftones move to go like this, I just don't think it worked that well in that case. And then going into Rats! after that is debatable too. I do like Rats! though. I remember someone on here criticising the very simple lyricism, but the feeling of anger came out really well and sincere. It's definitely in their few all-time heaviest cuts and it didn't feel heavy for the sake of being heavy. That's something for a metal band imo. Hell, does anyone remember another instance of Deftones playing fucking death metal? Someone said Gore felt more cohevise than SNW... I disagree.
Hell, Pink Cellphone used to be the running gag of this forum. I actually did like Pink Cellphone. I thought, for as random as it sounded, it really fitted Saturday Night Wrist. I still think stuff like that and The Konami Code could be played live with success if done correctly.
Kimdracula still is one of my favorite songs. This texture, are you kidding me? It's one of those few songs where you know you can't put this band in a box no matter how hard you try.
Combat comes as a personal preference since I witnessed first hands the only time they pulled it off in front of an audience. I liked it a lot when I first heard it too.
And Riviere. Fucking Riviere man. I didn't notice it on the first few listens, felt like that mandatory ballad by an otherwise heavy band, but holy shit. Those guitar chords hit right when they need to. Chino's vocals come off very sincere and almost fragile. Makes me tear up every time, I'm not ashamed. Absolutely my favorite SNW track and in my top 5 Deftones songs. I may or may not have played a tiny role in them starting playing it live during the KNY cycle, I'll never know.
My two main problems with Saturday Night Wrist are, for one, its touring cycle. I'll never blame a man for gaining weight, I'm not a fucking gossip magazine worker, and I can't be THAT shallow. But how they had all put on weight, especially Chino, was a sign that all those dark years had taken their toll. Stephen admitted, in an interview after the release of SNW, that Chino had a really hard time singing, and he felt very bad for him. It's not to say all the shows sucked, and none of them did from start to end, there was just this inconsistency. Most of the time (not all the time), they'd sound good for a minute and get tired the next minute, and you could hear it if you paid attention (which, as an off-the-record archivist, I did). Don't get me wrong: there are many great performances in the SNW cycle.
My second problem is knowing the potential that was wasted into this. We all know the production could have been a lot better and in fact, was going to be a lot better: they had fucking Bob Ezrin working with them. Sure enough a couple of you don't know, there's a bunch of demos they made with him, they're all available on YouTube. Had they gone through with him and completed these songs and come up with one decent sequence... this album was going to be on another level. We all know it. Stephen knew it at the time and was probably pissed over it.
I'll finish this very biased review with my favorite performance of Rats which, in my opinion, represents what I just said really well. Up until the first chorus, Chino is almost studio-like: the screams, the highs, the rasp, to the point it gives me the biggest chills. After that... it gets inconsistent. Again, don't twist my words. The rest of the band is top-notch through and through, but Deftones songs have always relied a lot on Chino. If he doesn't sound as good, the whole music takes the toll. Hope you get what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXquohLxF3Q
I enjoyed reading this write up a lot and I agree with most of it ("Xerces" is actually one of my favorite Deftones songs ever), but as far as the demos go, I still don't understand why they didn't include "Finger of Death" on the album. I've heard a live version on Youtube with vocals in it and man, that song just would have been such a killer Deftones classic.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 25, 2020, 05:24 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 25, 2020, 05:19 PM
If recent intel is legit, 2nd single should be out next week. And then just 3 looooong weeks until the album after that!
:)
🤔
lol
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Aug 26, 2020, 01:38 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 25, 2020, 05:24 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 25, 2020, 05:19 PM
If recent intel is legit, 2nd single should be out next week. And then just 3 looooong weeks until the album after that!
:)
HAH. Get dunked on son...
not you tokyodrifter lol
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 26, 2020, 01:57 AM
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Aug 26, 2020, 01:38 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 25, 2020, 05:24 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 25, 2020, 05:19 PM
If recent intel is legit, 2nd single should be out next week. And then just 3 looooong weeks until the album after that!
:)
HAH. Get dunked on son...
not you tokyodrifter lol
whatchu mean get dunked on lol
I know Stef said on IG another single was coming soon, but just two weeks after Ohms seems kind of quick. I bet they drop the second one like a week or two before the 25th.
So much respect for this Board! Lurking and learning is never a bad thing.
Been saying it for more than a minute.
Terry Date changed the game.
Deftones Golden Age Is Here!
Ohms seems to be getting a lot more attention then the other recent releases,It's super cool seeing Deftones start popping up all over the place.
Have been listening to the single a lot since release and still really like it, it's got enough different passages that it doesn't get too repetitive for me and that Terry Date production just makes these guys shine, he's a fucking wizard at capturing songs in a way where everything is heard but it's still balanced.
Stef mentioned on his Instagram that he used tube amps for the new album
Not sure if this has already been posted and how old/recent it is but there is a video on Apple Music titled 'At Home With Chino Moreno' where he talks a bit about Ohms and lockdown, amongst other things, also a couple of mentions of Chi. This was obviously filmed a few months ago when the album was in the mixing phase.
Yeah that one is kind of old, it's on DeftonesLive. Here it is for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw9AreWmVPI
https://www.kerrang.com/the-news/theres-a-song-on-the-new-deftones-album-that-has-seagulls-on-it/
My math may have been wrong. Hmm.
Dont worry, i see what u did there... "the spell of mathemathics"
Ooooooohhhhhh
Show me what's left
Does anyone remember this?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9XZRGwpBd1/?igshid=1rvqikxixwozq
Now that the tracklist has been announced, I wonder what those apparent "IH" letters stand for on that new song.
Can anyone make sense of what that tracklist was?
Quote from: Draken on Aug 24, 2020, 06:39 PM
I enjoyed DE, although not at first. It's Deftones more glossy, 'pretty' records but overall it's a good record. They wrote it in like 4 months, same as ATF. My favorite Sergio record.
I think Deftones can still produce that one AMAZING record. It might not be popular opinion but one of my favorite Cure records is Self Titled... their twelfth record.
Bloodflowers is my favorite so I feel you on that
Quote from: zeromindset on Aug 27, 2020, 10:22 AM
Quote from: Draken on Aug 24, 2020, 06:39 PM
I enjoyed DE, although not at first. It's Deftones more glossy, 'pretty' records but overall it's a good record. They wrote it in like 4 months, same as ATF. My favorite Sergio record.
I think Deftones can still produce that one AMAZING record. It might not be popular opinion but one of my favorite Cure records is Self Titled... their twelfth record.
Bloodflowers is my favorite so I feel you on that
Ye Bloodflowers is seriously underrated, up there with Disintegration imo.
Quote from: Moana91 on Aug 27, 2020, 09:16 AM
Does anyone remember this?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9XZRGwpBd1/?igshid=1rvqikxixwozq
Now that the tracklist has been announced, I wonder what those apparent "IH" letters stand for on that new song.
Can anyone make sense of what that tracklist was?
Lhabia with an accidental lowercase L or uppercase I.
Buying Ohms vinyl from Warner Music Canada: $50.59
Buying Ohms vinyl on Amazon : $33.67
.......
Now I know why I wait for Amazon to get albums.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 27, 2020, 08:00 PM
Buying Ohms vinyl from Warner Music Canada: $50.59
Buying Ohms vinyl on Amazon : $33.67
.......
Now I know why I wait for Amazon to get albums.
Damn, bro.. at least Amazon came through.
Do they both include the limited zine?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 27, 2020, 08:00 PM
Buying Ohms vinyl from Warner Music Canada: $50.59
Buying Ohms vinyl on Amazon : $33.67
.......
Now I know why I wait for Amazon to get albums.
Quote from: Draken on Aug 27, 2020, 11:29 PM
Do they both include the limited zine?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 27, 2020, 08:00 PM
Buying Ohms vinyl from Warner Music Canada: $50.59
Buying Ohms vinyl on Amazon : $33.67
.......
Now I know why I wait for Amazon to get albums.
Nah that's just the price of the standard vinyl.
cool vocal removal for Ohms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7-hjvnYVXw
^ Dope. You really get a good sense of a Stef's groovy riffs from that.
I just hope in one week from now, we will be going nuts over the new single... if thats to come next week ofc.
Can't wait for 9/25. It's coming fellas so freakin soon!!!!!!
Yesss....I find myself listening to Ohms at least once a day !
Haven't listened to Ohms since the release. Gonna keep it that way. Really hope the next single is Urantia... i heard a crappy leaked clip of it somewhere...Sounds fucking amazing.
Can't believe we are less than a month away! I'm ready for next weekend so this place picks up when this new single drops. Going to be working a lot in the meantime, should help the time go by faster. I just got a $4 an hour raise so that's great. Just an awesome month all around. I hope all is well with everyone around here too. Nothing can fix this terrible year, but a new Deftones album it's definitely going to be Soup for the Soul.
Just pre ordered the Gold & White versions of the vinyl. Yes I'm a sucker for coloured vinyls
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 28, 2020, 08:10 AM
Just pre ordered the Gold & White versions of the vinyl. Yes I'm a sucker for coloured vinyls
I ordered transparent + zine and gold versions.
We are reckless fans.
Anyone have a list of the new songs and how our post number correlates? Is Ohms for those who have posted the most?
Quote from: Big Boss on Aug 28, 2020, 12:04 PM
Anyone have a list of the new songs and how our post number correlates? Is Ohms for those who have posted the most?
Yup
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 28, 2020, 02:52 AM
cool vocal removal for Ohms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7-hjvnYVXw
It's a really good vocal removal! I've just pushed to get hexagram instrumental (tried a lot of vocal removers with that song, but all lack in the verses and sounded weird and "underwater", but I have a good feeling on this one)
That's awesome, happy for you. The album releases on my birthday so life couldn't be better. Been craving some new music lately to lift my spirits, so a new Deftones record is for sure going to feed this weary soul.
Cheers!
Quote from: RaptureWS on Aug 28, 2020, 08:04 AM
Can't believe we are less than a month away! I'm ready for next weekend so this place picks up when this new single drops. Going to be working a lot in the meantime, should help the time go by faster. I just got a $4 an hour raise so that's great. Just an awesome month all around. I hope all is well with everyone around here too. Nothing can fix this terrible year, but a new Deftones album it's definitely going to be Soup for the Soul.
Cassette bundle available in UK
https://deftones.warnerartists.net/uk/ohms-triple-cassette-bundle.html
Wtf cassete is still a thing?!
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Aug 28, 2020, 05:16 PM
Wtf cassete is still a thing?!
Making a comeback in a big way. I'm not joking.
Haha I just ordered it for the novelty, cassettes! Ha! Amazing. Do they still have walkmans in the Argos catalogue?
Quote from: mono on Aug 28, 2020, 04:54 PM
Cassette bundle available in UK
https://deftones.warnerartists.net/uk/ohms-triple-cassette-bundle.html
Ordered! Take my money!!
Yeah I ordered the bundle for the hell of it. Comes with a signed art card too, couldn't refuse it!
Ha ha! Guys, I got the cassettes too. They look pretty fucking cool and you get a signed print so what the hell!
Genesis as the next single? :o
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7dc91b59d0e47a196b5140e65eb77788/d861175cad2f9ccd-4b/s500x750/1d33ff7a02bb285c992e70eccfdd0e3b56f3690e.gifv)
LOL same here, cassettes ordered---
Quote from: Roidragee on Aug 28, 2020, 07:22 PM
Genesis as the next single? :o
What makes you say that?
lol
Lmao
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 28, 2020, 07:28 PM
Quote from: Roidragee on Aug 28, 2020, 07:22 PM
Genesis as the next single? :o
What makes you say that?
https://clips.twitch.tv/TubularInquisitiveOryxSoonerLater
Can I post this link?
Anyway, as soon as thatdeftkid said it was going to be Urantia, I knew it wasn't going to be it :P
I don't think motherfuckers are even ready for this, tbh.
One more week, or 2 more weeks? Im ready
2 more singles
Man, I think that I'd rather they not release another single. I mean, of course I want to hear new tunes but the album's a 10 tracker ...
Everbody is gonna love GENESIS. You are not ready.
So the singles are the first and last tracks of the album? Interesting choice. Can't wait to hear it!
not sure if this has already been discussed but does anyone have any ideas about what the video for ohms is all about?
also there is this part in the video which has the album art in red and black- man i wish the album cover was those colours!
Quote from: punkflop01 on Aug 28, 2020, 08:46 PM
not sure if this has already been discussed but does anyone have any ideas about what the video for ohms is all about?
Seems to be about a man and a woman finding each other, possibly again, while being lost in a dystopian world.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 28, 2020, 08:03 PM
I don't think motherfuckers are even ready for this, tbh.
NOW watch how wild it gets ;)
Stef is on the Dr. Greenthumb podcast again.. It's live now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj1S4rUnVxk
Quote from: punkflop01 on Aug 28, 2020, 08:46 PM
not sure if this has already been discussed but does anyone have any ideas about what the video for ohms is all about?
I think its about humanty/evolution/tech and its relation with nature.
The man who walks within the ruins would represent humanity and the long red cape lady represents mother nature.At the end of the video they have a reconciliation.
Its just my opinion.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 28, 2020, 09:24 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 28, 2020, 08:03 PM
I don't think motherfuckers are even ready for this, tbh.
NOW watch how wild it gets ;)
Stef is on the Dr. Greenthumb podcast again.. It's live now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj1S4rUnVxk
lol, science lessons about moon provided by Stef...
If you've been iffy on the song ohms and how the rest of the album is, the next single, will erase any fears you might have about it...
Have you heard it in good quality?
I'm dying to hear Genesis. Can't locate anywhere.
Quote from: elite54 on Aug 29, 2020, 12:15 AM
Have you heard it in good quality?
I have not. But from what I did hear.. it's gonna be killer.
Quote from: xoandef on Aug 28, 2020, 09:37 PM
Quote from: punkflop01 on Aug 28, 2020, 08:46 PM
not sure if this has already been discussed but does anyone have any ideas about what the video for ohms is all about?
I think its about humanty/evolution/tech and its relation with nature.
The man who walks within the ruins would represent humanity and the long red cape lady represents mother nature.At the end of the video they have a reconciliation.
Its just my opinion.
That's a good take and sort of matches up with what Chino said about the song.
No leak talks. Don't spoil it.
yeah guys no leak talks >:(
lmao
Quote from: ireallywish on Aug 29, 2020, 06:15 AM
lmao
I mean it. The quality on that stuff is downright awful and talking about the music on it is a disservice.
Responding to leak talk on the previous page though lol
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 29, 2020, 06:28 AM
Quote from: ireallywish on Aug 29, 2020, 06:15 AM
lmao
I mean it. The quality on that stuff is downright awful and talking about the music on it is a disservice.
You listened to it though and are commenting on it as well 🤔
Fair but that was vague enough. You coming up with these details about the composition and the sound just really makes it sound bad when all we have is an awful mic rip.
I'm talking about the quality of the leak, not about the music. ;)
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 29, 2020, 06:33 AM
I'm talking about the quality of the leak, not about the music. ;)
Got you...I don't think anyone can really guess how anything sounds from a description from text..no matter how detailed. I really didn't give away anything more than what I've read in here already... before I actually heard it. I understand though ;)
Trust me, a bias grows fast. Appreciate it
The real question is, does the shitty quality rip sound better than Gore's production? ;)
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 29, 2020, 06:28 AM
Quote from: ireallywish on Aug 29, 2020, 06:15 AM
lmao
I mean it. The quality on that stuff is downright awful and talking about the music on it is a disservice.
that wasn't directed at you! sorry
I HEARD THE RIP IT SOUND LIKE SHIT IT HAD GUITARS IN IT AND DRUMS CHUGGA CHUGGA ALSO CHINGO SANG ABOUT WAVES
..........Jesus
Quote from: punkflop01 on Aug 29, 2020, 06:58 AM
The real question is, does the shitty quality rip sound better than Gore's production? ;)
yesss
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Aug 29, 2020, 06:11 AM
yeah guys no leak talks >:(
Yeah, yeah, you are the fine one to talk about leaks :D
Hello old faces !!! I'm glad to see all these names coming out of retirement, for one more album ! :)
Anyone think the album will have an instrumental on it?
640 hours.....
Quote from: all3n_y on Aug 29, 2020, 12:41 PM
Anyone think the album will have an instrumental on it?
No it would have come up already.
Plus there's only ten songs.
Wonder if they have done any b-sides for this album
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 29, 2020, 01:25 PM
Wonder if they have done any b-sides for this album
since the last b-side we got was "lovers" in 2003, i'd say the odds are very low. like 3% chance at best
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 29, 2020, 01:25 PM
Wonder if they have done any b-sides for this album
Well, they apparently recorded a couple of more tracks that aren't on the album so there's a chance but, given that the Ohms single didn't feature any additional songs, I'm not hopeful.
Quote from: stu_101 on Aug 29, 2020, 01:54 PM
Quote from: I_Know_ok on Aug 29, 2020, 08:50 AM
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 29, 2020, 08:02 AM
I HEARD THE RIP IT SOUND LIKE SHIT IT HAD GUITARS IN IT AND DRUMS CHUGGA CHUGGA ALSO CHINGO SANG ABOUT WAVES
REEEEELAY FUNNi my NUggAaa
Polite request to moderators. I've been a member here since 2006 and in recent weeks, I've noticed the 'n' word being dropped on these message boards more times than I can remember. Mods, if you're deleting posts about leaks etc, can you please also delete references to racism. Thanks in advance.
Saying the n-word is part of hispanic culture, please have respect for this.
The irony of quoting the full post asking it to be removed.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Aug 29, 2020, 02:21 PM
Quote from: stu_101 on Aug 29, 2020, 01:54 PM
Quote from: I_Know_ok on Aug 29, 2020, 08:50 AM
Quote from: Penicks on Aug 29, 2020, 08:02 AM
I HEARD THE RIP IT SOUND LIKE SHIT IT HAD GUITARS IN IT AND DRUMS CHUGGA CHUGGA ALSO CHINGO SANG ABOUT WAVES
REEEEELAY FUNNi my NUggAaa
Polite request to moderators. I've been a member here since 2006 and in recent weeks, I've noticed the 'n' word being dropped on these message boards more times than I can remember. Mods, if you're deleting posts about leaks etc, can you please also delete references to racism. Thanks in advance.
Saying the n-word is part of hispanic culture, please have respect for this.
Jog on mate.
What happened to this place?!?
I still think it shouldnt be tolerated here. but stop quoting it and making it worse.
Apologies. It was not my intention to reshare the original post. I was merely trying to highlight to the mods the original source.
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 29, 2020, 10:53 AM
Hello old faces !!! I'm glad to see all these names coming out of retirement, for one more album ! :)
Another old face is back
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 29, 2020, 01:25 PM
Wonder if they have done any b-sides for this album
Was thinking that might be a possibility. Maybe a cover?
It's not really their style, but I thought they might release a stand-alone single after the album and put proceeds towards the road crew affected by Covid. They seem pretty bummed out that they can't tour, particularly from some of the comments Abe had made on the Instagram live stream.
Quote from: stu_101 on Aug 29, 2020, 02:38 PM
Apologies. I want not my intention to reshare the original post. I was merely trying to highlight to the mods the original source.
Don't worry dude. I imagine one of the mods will address it soon.
FWIW I haven't seen that word used by anyone other than Penicks but I'm with you on it.
Global moderator using the n word? but the word
ohms was deleted as soon as it was used? weird place indeed.
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 29, 2020, 10:53 AM
Hello old faces !!! I'm glad to see all these names coming out of retirement, for one more album ! :)
Welcome back mate, remember that time we bumped into each other at the aftershow VIP party in London 2006?
Quote from: buflen on Aug 29, 2020, 03:19 PM
Global moderator using the n word? but the word
ohms was deleted as soon as it was used? weird place indeed.
New times and I guess lots of people need to adapt. Please excuse our slowness on a few things, which definitely have a major importance.
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 29, 2020, 03:22 PM
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 29, 2020, 10:53 AM
Hello old faces !!! I'm glad to see all these names coming out of retirement, for one more album ! :)
Welcome back mate, remember that time we bumped into each other at the aftershow VIP party in London 2006?
Man I remember...
Getting in that club with the band is still one of the coolest stuff that ever happened to me... I saw them many times after, and never got to party with them again...
:)Waddup yall.... miss the forum, lost my passwords etc and signed back up when i realized how great it is to check in here every once in a while.....never stopped lurkin. Was Definatelydeffsho
Love the new single btw. Going to try and go cold turkey on this one tho until i hear the entire album next month. Yall making Genesis sound too good to be true tho... maybe?
If you need your old login, hit me up if you still have access to the email account it was linked to.
Hey Ves, good to see you still around brother... Seems like you're doing good with DeftonesLive...
I wish bootlegs were as easy back in the days as they are now...
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 29, 2020, 04:34 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Aug 29, 2020, 03:22 PM
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 29, 2020, 10:53 AM
Hello old faces !!! I'm glad to see all these names coming out of retirement, for one more album ! :)
Welcome back mate, remember that time we bumped into each other at the aftershow VIP party in London 2006?
Man I remember...
Getting in that club with the band is still one of the coolest stuff that ever happened to me... I saw them many times after, and never got to party with them again...
Great times, free bar also!
I owe the guy who gave me those passes a lot! All because he had work the next day and had to get the underground home
Thanks Ves but thats also forgotten. Its all good im a noob again
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 29, 2020, 10:27 AM
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Aug 29, 2020, 06:11 AM
yeah guys no leak talks >:(
Yeah, yeah, you are the fine one to talk about leaks :D
Don't taunt him, dude. We like having him around here.
:ohow bout those 6 minute plus trax?!?! Ive looooonged for that to happen with them again. Looks like more than once though. Only seen Genesis n Math runtimes on the cassette tape pics.... anyone seen a whole tracklist w times?
Quote from: Visionz on Aug 29, 2020, 07:05 PM
:ohow bout those 6 minute plus trax?!?! Ive looooonged for that to happen with them again. Looks like more than once though. Only seen Genesis n Math runtimes on the cassette tape pics.... anyone seen a whole tracklist w times?
Yep, it's on Qobuz - sorry, don't have a link immediately to hand.
Edit: check here https://www.reddit.com/r/deftones/comments/ietwx6/im_loving_these_track_lengths_if_they_turn_out_to/
OK those looked like sixes to me on those cassettes but that's still lengthy for them or anyone
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 29, 2020, 07:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 29, 2020, 10:27 AM
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Aug 29, 2020, 06:11 AM
yeah guys no leak talks >:(
Yeah, yeah, you are the fine one to talk about leaks :D
Don't taunt him, dude. We like having him around here.
Sure thing, but it doesn't change the fact that he is the biggest of all leakers 8)
Supposedly is Genesis
https://www.theprp.com/2020/08/29/news/deftones-have-reportedly-lined-up-a-heavy-second-single-from-their-new-album-ohms/
Quote from: tarkil on Aug 29, 2020, 04:48 PM
Hey Ves, good to see you still around brother... Seems like you're doing good with DeftonesLive...
I wish bootlegs were as easy back in the days as they are now...
Salut mec, good to see you!
I think about that a lot. It would have ruined the fun now, wouldn't it? Then again, having a more accessible "database" incites more people to share, lots of great stuff surfaced.
A lot of u r still here after all these years. I remember the anticipation of Eros before tragedy hit the band and it's family and DE and all that with a lot of u. We r just older now and still hanging on for the next ride this band may take us on. Gotta admit, this time around feels no less than the best album anticipation ive ever felt with Deftones. Today, my wife and children ask what im doing on my phone when i drop in here. I was here 4 girlfriends and 3 careers ago doing the same thing
tokyodrifter give us some leaks, lol :D
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Aug 29, 2020, 06:11 AM
yeah guys no leak talks >:(
Ok, so new single on 09/04 or 09/11 ?
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 30, 2020, 04:12 PM
Ok, so new single on 09/04 or 09/11 ?
I think we were expecting 09/04 but I'm thinking the following week now. No insider info or anything to base that on, merely a feeling as there's been no official announcement or build to it being this Friday, and they could just drop it without fanfare, but that's a big contrast to the lead up to the album reveal.
Miraculously, I've remained unspoiled, apart from the single, during this album's build so far and haven't caved in and listened to any of those low quality recordings and I'm really appreciating the anticipation which is certainly novel.
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 30, 2020, 05:08 PM
Miraculously, I've remained unspoiled, apart from the single, during this album's build so far and haven't caved in and listened to any of those low quality recordings and I'm really appreciating the anticipation which is certainly novel.
You believe that? It would spread like wildfire if it were true.
Yeah, man - I'm sticking this one out until release day. Have the previous albums to keep me company until then.
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 30, 2020, 05:20 PM
Yeah, man - I'm sticking this one out until release day. Have the previous albums to keep me company until then.
I plan on holding out as well. I still haven't listened to the single. Either way, the new Manson album is coming out soon so that'll hold me over until then.
Quote from: all3n_y on Aug 30, 2020, 05:29 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 30, 2020, 05:20 PM
Yeah, man - I'm sticking this one out until release day. Have the previous albums to keep me company until then.
I plan on holding out as well. I still haven't listened to the single. Either way, the new Manson album is coming out soon so that'll hold me over until then.
Woah! I didn't have your willpower but I do wish I had as I'd like to have experienced the album as a whole. I'm definitely not overplaying the single though in the meantime.
Stoked for everyone to hear Genesis.. kinda wish I didn't listen to it.. but all good. Nice to hear Stephen back in the forefront again.
I'm not listening to anything unless it's officially released. I've heard Ohms, the little snippet that Abe played on his IG, and then a 30 sec clip of a bad recording of another (i'm not sure if it was the same as what Abe played). The album comes out on my birthday so there's no way I'm ruining that for myself, but hell yeah if they officially release another single I'm bumping that shit.
Does Genesis compare to any other song? If so, which one?
i don't think the majority of us can answer that
@I_Know_ok
You're obviously new here. That has been ruled out for weeks. That "leak" was not a leak. It was supposed to be a listening session bonded by trust. Sadly, things didn't go as planned.
We're trying to keep the anticipation where it should be rather than helping a debate over shitty rips.
Four weeks to go! Those four weeks should fly by, especially if we get another single in the next week or two. We're almost there.
4 weeks until a new Deftones record produces by the one and only Terry Date. What a time to be alive. 😜
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 30, 2020, 04:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 30, 2020, 04:12 PM
Ok, so new single on 09/04 or 09/11 ?
I think we were expecting 09/04 but I'm thinking the following week now. No insider info or anything to base that on, merely a feeling as there's been no official announcement or build to it being this Friday, and they could just drop it without fanfare, but that's a big contrast to the lead up to the album reveal.
thatdeftkid said 9/04. So it's obviously not going to be on that date because none of his "info" came true.
Quote from: buflen on Aug 31, 2020, 07:38 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 30, 2020, 04:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Aug 30, 2020, 04:12 PM
Ok, so new single on 09/04 or 09/11 ?
I think we were expecting 09/04 but I'm thinking the following week now. No insider info or anything to base that on, merely a feeling as there's been no official announcement or build to it being this Friday, and they could just drop it without fanfare, but that's a big contrast to the lead up to the album reveal.
thatdeftkid said 9/04. So it's obviously not going to be on that date because none of his "info" came true.
Right! Thanks for clarifying - 09/11 then.
In a way, thatdeftkid provides just as many valuable leads as tokyodrifter does. The only difference is that you have to assume the exact opposite of whatever thatdeftkid says will be true.
It's cool that Ohms has over 2kk views on YT already. In next few days will beat P/T score for sure.
I'm wondering if this new record will be as popular as Diamond Eyes was (5 vidoes from their top 10 most-viewed on YT are from DE - it must mean something, right?).
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 31, 2020, 07:58 PM
In a way, thatdeftkid provides just as many valuable leads as tokyodrifter does. The only difference is that you have to assume the exact opposite of whatever thatdeftkid says will be true.
Facts.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 31, 2020, 08:47 PM
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Aug 31, 2020, 07:58 PM
In a way, thatdeftkid provides just as many valuable leads as tokyodrifter does. The only difference is that you have to assume the exact opposite of whatever thatdeftkid says will be true.
Facts.
Saying this is a fact is a paradox. Now I don't know what is real.
I'm lost. Is there a summation to hand of what thatdeftkid 'revealed'?
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 31, 2020, 09:12 PM
I'm lost. Is there a summation to hand of what thatdeftkid 'revealed'?
Only thing I've been "wrong" about is the title of the second single.
That's a pretty egregious error to make if you want people to take you seriously.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 31, 2020, 09:19 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Aug 31, 2020, 09:12 PM
I'm lost. Is there a summation to hand of what thatdeftkid 'revealed'?
Only thing I've been "wrong" about is the title of the second single.
You also said the album art has nothing to do with eyes, and lo and behold, the cover is nothing but a pair of eyes. So far the only predictions you were actually right about was the album would be released on 9/25, which was pretty self-evident by the website url, and the fact that a single would drop on 8/21, which while not entirely evident, I think most of us already assumed something would be dropping by then what with the spelling out of the album title through Spotify. You could be right about a single dropping this Friday, but then again it's nearly a 50/50 chance since something is more than likely dropping either this Friday or next.
I think it'll be a 9/11 single. 9/4 and no teases... mmm I don't think so.
Genesis dropping a mere two weeks after Ohms? I really doubt it. Ohms is the first single so they probably want it to "breathe" a little bit before they drop another one, especially if they have another crazy video lined up. I'm thinking 9/11 too, although I guess it doesn't have to necessarily drop on a Friday. Looking at some of their other single rollouts, there actually wasn't too much of a wait between Leathers and Tempest, but it was still more than two weeks.
Also, the Ohms video now has close to 2.2 million views on Youtube in ten days. Loving this success they are seeing.
2 millions 8)
2 million more hours?
Next Single is not coming September 4th. That is all. ;)
I'm really digging Ohms right now. It's like Good Morning Beautiful or Street Carp, easy not too risky song but still catchy.
Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
In comparison, the Manson's album has leaked already, the release is scheduled for 9/11. I hope Ohms doesn't follow the same fate.
Quote from: Diplo on Sep 01, 2020, 09:36 AM
I'm really digging Ohms right now. It's like Good Morning Beautiful or Street Carp, easy not too risky song but still catchy.
Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
In comparison, the Manson's album has leaked already, the release is scheduled for 9/11. I hope Ohms doesn't follow the same fate.
In all honesty it probably will. I mean 10 days out from release isn't unrealistic.
Haha, this 'thedeftkid' guy has already been debunked, the email address linked to his account takes you to a LinkedIn profile of a random guy working in some business not related to music at all.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 01, 2020, 11:30 AM
Haha, this 'thedeftkid' guy has already been debunked, the email address linked to his account takes you to a LinkedIn profile of a random guy working in some business not related to music at all.
Yep, I remember him now being the guy that said the eyes on the artwork weren't eyes.
Let's just say he's completely debunked now, 100%.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 01, 2020, 12:16 PM
Let's just say he's completely debunked now, 100%.
I'll never fathom why people bother with that sort of nonsense - just to waste people's time I suppose.
Oh well, 2 more hours.
I imagine that reviews of Ohms will start to arrive fairly soon. Not that my listening pleasure is dependent upon other views but I'm always particularly interested in seeing how the boys fare with the critics, especially with more mainstream publications. Also whets the appetite for the album's release somewhat.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 01, 2020, 11:52 AM
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 01, 2020, 11:30 AM
Haha, this 'thedeftkid' guy has already been debunked, the email address linked to his account takes you to a LinkedIn profile of a random guy working in some business not related to music at all.
Yep, I remember him now being the guy that said the eyes on the artwork weren't eyes.
The guy is full of shit
Quote from: Diplo on Sep 01, 2020, 09:36 AM
Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
He uses a 9 string in the video, doesn't necessarily means that's what he used to record it. Probably just showing off.
And Chino said it was the first thing written for the album, 3 years ago, which is before the instagram post on his 9 strings guitar.
Anyway, it's not because you have X amount of strings that you need to use them all in all songs.
It's September!!! We're almost there folks... just a few more weeks to go! Hopefully we do get a single this Friday...
Quote from: buflen on Sep 01, 2020, 05:44 PM
Quote from: Diplo on Sep 01, 2020, 09:36 AM
Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
He uses a 9 string in the video, doesn't necessarily means that's what he used to record it. Probably just showing off.
And Chino said it was the first thing written for the album, 3 years ago, which is before the instagram post on his 9 strings guitar.
Anyway, it's not because you have X amount of strings that you need to use them all in all songs.
From what I understand, Stephen upgrades all his guitars to whatever the number of strings he currently writes in no matter what. This way he's not constantly shifting neck sizes for songs live (say to 6 strings for Adrenaline, ATF, and WP and 7/8 for the others) and can just get used to one size. It's irrelevant to him what strings he uses to play a song. He's going to use the guitar size he's currently used to.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 01, 2020, 09:58 AM
Quote from: Diplo on Sep 01, 2020, 09:36 AM
I'm really digging Ohms right now. It's like Good Morning Beautiful or Street Carp, easy not too risky song but still catchy.
Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
In comparison, the Manson's album has leaked already, the release is scheduled for 9/11. I hope Ohms doesn't follow the same fate.
In all honesty it probably will. I mean 10 days out from release isn't unrealistic.
Probably. Has there ever been a Deftones album that hasn't leaked in this age? It's funny how some albums stay protected while others don't. Nas' latest album (that came out the same day as Ohms) didn't leak, and I think pop stars like Beyonce or Taylor Swift also have good security and don't leak. Maybe because some are surprise releases or only have a week of promotion, like in Nas' case?
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 01, 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 01, 2020, 05:44 PM
Quote from: Diplo on Sep 01, 2020, 09:36 AM
Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
He uses a 9 string in the video, doesn't necessarily means that's what he used to record it. Probably just showing off.
And Chino said it was the first thing written for the album, 3 years ago, which is before the instagram post on his 9 strings guitar.
Anyway, it's not because you have X amount of strings that you need to use them all in all songs.
From what I understand, Stephen upgrades all his guitars to whatever the number of strings he currently writes in no matter what. This way he's not constantly shifting neck sizes for songs live (say to 6 strings for Adrenaline, ATF, and WP and 7/8 for the others) and can just get used to one size. It's irrelevant to him what strings he uses to play a song. He's going to use the guitar size he's currently used to.
Live guitar line-up: 7's, 8's & now 9's as well.
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I'm really digging Ohms right now. It's like Good Morning Beautiful or Street Carp, easy not too risky song but still catchy.
Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
In comparison, the Manson's album has leaked already, the release is scheduled for 9/11. I hope Ohms doesn't follow the same fate.
In all honesty it probably will. I mean 10 days out from release isn't unrealistic.
Probably. Has there ever been a Deftones album that hasn't leaked in this age? It's funny how some albums stay protected while others don't. Nas' latest album (that came out the same day as Ohms) didn't leak, and I think pop stars like Beyonce or Taylor Swift also have good security and don't leak. Maybe because some are surprise releases or only have a week of promotion, like in Nas' case?
A lot of the surprise albums just come out with no notice, so it's easier to keep them from leaking, which is probably why the Nas album didn't leak early, especially now that they can do it digitally and still do massive numbers.
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Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
He uses a 9 string in the video, doesn't necessarily means that's what he used to record it. Probably just showing off.
And Chino said it was the first thing written for the album, 3 years ago, which is before the instagram post on his 9 strings guitar.
Anyway, it's not because you have X amount of strings that you need to use them all in all songs.
From what I understand, Stephen upgrades all his guitars to whatever the number of strings he currently writes in no matter what. This way he's not constantly shifting neck sizes for songs live (say to 6 strings for Adrenaline, ATF, and WP and 7/8 for the others) and can just get used to one size. It's irrelevant to him what strings he uses to play a song. He's going to use the guitar size he's currently used to.
Live guitar line-up: 7's, 8's & now 9's as well.
Does he still switch guitar sizes live? I was under the impression that he decided to just get used to one neck size and learn to play the songs with them. That said, I haven't played a 7-string in probably a decade and never touched an 8 or 9 so I don't know if it's significantly different switching between those three than say a 9 down to a 6.
We are in the digital age now. No more
Boxes of discs being sent to Tower Records or Wherehouse. Man i miss those days.
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We are in the digital age now. No more
Boxes of discs being sent to Tower Records or Wherehouse. Man i miss those days.
Me as well! The excitement of going in the day it dropped. Rushing back to the car and feverishly tearing away the wrapping. Carefully pulling out the CD and putting it in the stereo. Holding my breath and pressing play....Absolutely nothing like it...
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Dont know why Stef use a 9 strings on this one tho.
He uses a 9 string in the video, doesn't necessarily means that's what he used to record it. Probably just showing off.
And Chino said it was the first thing written for the album, 3 years ago, which is before the instagram post on his 9 strings guitar.
Anyway, it's not because you have X amount of strings that you need to use them all in all songs.
From what I understand, Stephen upgrades all his guitars to whatever the number of strings he currently writes in no matter what. This way he's not constantly shifting neck sizes for songs live (say to 6 strings for Adrenaline, ATF, and WP and 7/8 for the others) and can just get used to one size. It's irrelevant to him what strings he uses to play a song. He's going to use the guitar size he's currently used to.
Live guitar line-up: 7's, 8's & now 9's as well.
Does he still switch guitar sizes live? I was under the impression that he decided to just get used to one neck size and learn to play the songs with them. That said, I haven't played a 7-string in probably a decade and never touched an 8 or 9 so I don't know if it's significantly different switching between those three than say a 9 down to a 6.
For the earlier albums that were recorded on a 6 string..... Uses a 7 string with the top two lightest gauge strings tuned to the same note.
Amazing, This place is death right now...
Ohms is gonna make this place Explode. To get a first and last Track as Singles says a lot about the maturity of the Band. And more importantly the Sound...IMO
I believe your eyes
So close guys! I truly have a good feeling about this album! HAS to be better than Gore at the very least..right? RIGHT??
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So close guys! I truly have a good feeling about this album! HAS to be better than Gore at the very least..right? RIGHT??
In a little over 3 weeks we'll know!
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Amazing, This place is death right now...
Ohms is gonna make this place Explode. To get a first and last Track as Singles says a lot about the maturity of the Band. And more importantly the Sound...IMO
Calm before the storm
Should be hearing something from the boys today.
OK
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
Sure
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
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Until tokyo or rumors says stuff, I'm not believing it
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
Lol no.
Nothing is happening this week.
Too many oracles in this topic
Too many oracles and not enough Neos
Fun Fact: Deftones were on 2 soundtracks from the Matrix original trilogy.
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
I can't believe it. You totally called it.
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
I can't believe it. You totally called it.
Yes, another Instagram post
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
I can't believe it. You totally called it.
Yes, another Instagram post
The kid wasn't lying, man.
We'll know something's going to happen when Tokyo appears.
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
I can't believe it. You totally called it.
Yes, another Instagram post
The kid wasn't lying, man.
lol they pretty much post every 2 days now.. not hard to predict.
I'll believe them when they revise their second single release from the 4th to the correct date. maybe.
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Should be hearing something from the boys today.
I can't believe it. You totally called it.
Yes, another Instagram post
The kid wasn't lying, man.
lol they pretty much post every 2 days now.. not hard to predict.
I know - was being facetious!
2nd Single on Friday. I know because I just know.
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2nd Single on Friday. I know because I just know.
Doubtful.
They're releasing Crest as a hidden track on the album. I only tell the truth.
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2nd Single on Friday. I know because I just know.
:) incorrect.
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2nd Single on Friday. I know because I just know.
:) incorrect.
You know something don't you.
He posted something a while back saying that he had a reputable tip about when the single would drop, but later edited the post to leave out the juicy details. Without just outright saying the date, let's just say it maybe possibly might not be dropping on either 9/4 or 9/11.
Regardless of a leak happening or not, I'm pretty glad it still hasn't considering the hype behind it. At this point, if it does happen, it'll either come from a journalist or someone working on the pressing, as I believe it usually does.
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2nd Single on Friday. I know because I just know.
:) incorrect.
You know something don't you.
He posted something a while back saying that he had a reputable tip about when the single would drop, but later edited the post to leave out the juicy details. Without just outright saying the date, let's just say it maybe possibly might not be dropping on either 9/4 or 9/11.
Wouldn't that be kinda weird to drop a single just one week before the whole record is out ?
Damn, where is TokyoDrifter when we need him
Yep. It's not coming this week or next. Basically confirmed from the same place that the song titles came from.
Before the dates just said "Unknown". I checked late sunday night/early monday morning and it showed the confirmed date.
I'm assuming the release date is to hype up the week before release and if there's a leak, hope it'll distract people from it?
It's not entirely unheard of for a band to drop a single a week before album release, lots of bands do it. That being said, usually when I see that happen, it tends to be a third single or something.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 02, 2020, 10:24 PM
Yep. It's not coming this week or next. Basically confirmed from the same place that the song titles came from.
Before the dates just said "Unknown". I checked late sunday night/early monday morning and it showed the confirmed date.
I'm assuming the release date is to hype up the week before release and if there's a leak, hope it'll distract people from it?
Interesting, and your last comment make sense.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 02, 2020, 10:28 PM
It's not entirely unheard of for a band to drop a single a week before album release, lots of bands do it. That being said, usually when I see that happen, it tends to be a third single or something.
They did it with Hearts/Wires, which dropped four days before Gore's release.
So obviously it's September 18th. It probably wasnt supposed to be known yet, but apparently the music recognition site we used to identify the leaks, let this one out a little early.
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So obviously it's September 18th. It probably wasnt supposed to be known yet, but apparently the music recognition site we used to identify the leaks, let this one out a little early.
Thanks for the info, man.
What if homeboy from the B-Real podcast is actually mistaken thinking Genesis is the next single and it's actually the third single? What if thatdeftkid is actually right about a single dropping this Friday? sharinglungs, have you tried plugging in any other leaks into AHA to see if they come up with an earlier date?
thatdeftkid changed his stance once on what the song would be...
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 02, 2020, 11:09 PM
What if homeboy from the B-Real podcast is actually mistaken thinking Genesis is the next single and it's actually the third single? What if thatdeftkid is actually right about a single dropping this Friday? sharinglungs, have you tried plugging in any other leaks into AHA to see if they come up with an earlier date?
I did and nothing comes up.
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thatdeftkid changed his stance once on what the song would be...
Yeah, but hypothetically if Genesis is actually the third single, then it's possible Urantia could be the 2nd single and drop this Friday after all. Once again, this is just me spitballing ideas based on the notion that a single dropped a week before release tends to be a third single. I'm not necessarily giving thatdeftkid's predictions any credence since they were wrong about other things too such as the album art. I guess I'm just entertaining the possibility that there could be a single in between Ohms and Genesis
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Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 02, 2020, 11:09 PM
What if homeboy from the B-Real podcast is actually mistaken thinking Genesis is the next single and it's actually the third single? What if thatdeftkid is actually right about a single dropping this Friday? sharinglungs, have you tried plugging in any other leaks into AHA to see if they come up with an earlier date?
I did and nothing comes up.
Shit. In that case, I think it's safe to assume for now that that Genesis is the only other single
Every 2 weeks before release would be a good release schedule for singles. It allows for 3, and lots of time to talk about the songs... but I don't think it's gonna happen.. I wish it would though.
Only one song that is not on AHA is Radiant City, so unless that song is a single we will just have 2 singles. Which im totally fine with since there's 10 tracks on the album
That was exactly what I was thinking, it seems like a nice and tidy way of slowly trickling things out, and mirrors what I see lots of other bands doing. But as we all know, Deftones has their own way of doing things that are (sometimes infuriatingly) not like other bands. At this point, I'm not expecting anything until 9/25.
And yeah Roidragee, I considered the possibility that much like Ohms, they might use another non-leaked song as a single. If that's the case, I think it's clever of Chino to not have broadcasted the songs he knew would be singles
I feel we'll only get one more single, you'd think they would like to leave some mystery to the album and not release too much.
Guess we'll see.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 02, 2020, 11:30 PM
That was exactly what I was thinking, it seems like a nice and tidy way of slowly trickling things out, and mirrors what I see lots of other bands doing. But as we all know, Deftones has their own way of doing things that are (sometimes infuriatingly) not like other bands. At this point, I'm not expecting anything until 9/25.
And yeah Roidragee, I considered the possibility that much like Ohms, they might use another non-leaked song as a single. If that's the case, I think it's clever of Chino to not have broadcasted the songs he knew would be singles
Ohms was broadcast.
My bad. I was under the impression it wasn't. I have only heard one of the leaks, so I'm really unsure of exactly what was already floating around out there. Speaking of which, what exactly are all the songs that were leaked?
Genesis, Ceremony, Error(15 seconds), This link is dead(30 seconds?), The Spell of Mathematics, Urantia, Pompeji(1:27), Headless(30 seconds).. that's all thats out there, I don't think anyone passed around any part of the song Ohms.
Easy on the leak talk.
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Genesis, Ceremony, Error(15 seconds), This link is dead(30 seconds?), The Spell of Mathematics, Urantia, Pompeji(1:27), Headless(30 seconds).. that's all thats out there, I don't think anyone passed around any part of the song Ohms.
I'll cave. No big deal to me. I'm too old now
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
I agree with you 100%. I remember listening to a different version of the song, really raw and dirty, Frank really present on it. That mp3 is one of my fav Deftones songs, ever. When I first heard Beware in Sao Paulo back in 07, that shit got me so pumped and crazy that I fell in love with it on the spot (look it up on youtube, ITS INSANE). The live version is way better than the version that ended up on the record, imho. I hate that one. Makes the song no justice.
edit: here it is.
https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI (https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY)
So we thinkin single tomorrow or nay?
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So we thinkin single tomorrow or nay?
Yes. Release the single tokyo
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Just wait for a suprise, it will be much better for your mental health! ;D
Quote from: Playhouse on Sep 03, 2020, 10:32 AM
So we thinkin single tomorrow or nay?
I think @sharinglungs has ably demonstrated this is a nay and that @thatdeftkid is a flake.
Either way, you'll know in an hour from now when it hits Friday in New Zealand.
I will 2 hrs after that in Sydney yo
It's 12:30 am in New Zealand now, and nothing, because it's not coming today :P
18th guys. 2 more weeks.
I'm so ready for this album now.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
I agree with you 100%. I remember listening to a different version of the song, really raw and dirty, Frank really present on it. That mp3 is one of my fav Deftones songs, ever. When I first heard Beware in Sao Paulo back in 07, that shit got me so pumped and crazy that I fell in love with it on the spot (look it up on youtube, ITS INSANE). The live version is way better than the version that ended up on the record, imho. I hate that one. Makes the song no justice.
edit: here it is.
https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI (https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY)
I also vividly remember that mp3 and being utterly blown away by what was to come. The album version, as it turned out, is one of my least favourite songs of theirs.
I never really listen to Beware but sometimes I'll skip to the end because I love that outro. When the Myspace demo was out there I'd listen to it over and over again.
I really want there to be a new single tomorrow but I won't get my hopes up. Let's see what happens tho...
Jesus...record comes out on the 25th. Shut up and wait a few weeks.
Oh no, people on a message board getting hyped for new music. I better put an end to this.
Alright guys, you heard them, let's just patiently wait a few more weeks then.
lol
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
I agree with you 100%. I remember listening to a different version of the song, really raw and dirty, Frank really present on it. That mp3 is one of my fav Deftones songs, ever. When I first heard Beware in Sao Paulo back in 07, that shit got me so pumped and crazy that I fell in love with it on the spot (look it up on youtube, ITS INSANE). The live version is way better than the version that ended up on the record, imho. I hate that one. Makes the song no justice.
edit: here it is.
https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI (https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY)
I also vividly remember that mp3 and being utterly blown away by what was to come. The album version, as it turned out, is one of my least favourite songs of theirs.
Do you still have it? I do. I can post in whatever place its allowed in here.
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Urantia will be the next single, 9.4
This post aged like a fine wine.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
I agree with you 100%. I remember listening to a different version of the song, really raw and dirty, Frank really present on it. That mp3 is one of my fav Deftones songs, ever. When I first heard Beware in Sao Paulo back in 07, that shit got me so pumped and crazy that I fell in love with it on the spot (look it up on youtube, ITS INSANE). The live version is way better than the version that ended up on the record, imho. I hate that one. Makes the song no justice.
edit: here it is.
https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI (https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY)
They say... The first time is the best. ;)
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Aug 23, 2020, 08:11 AM
Urantia will be the next single, 9.4
This post aged like a fine wine.
I think you mean milk.
that quote too: "Album artwork has nothing to do with eyes."
I bet he comes back and say: my only mistake was the album artwork, the song name of second single and the release date by a few weeks. But I was right it was going to be on a friday.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
I agree with you 100%. I remember listening to a different version of the song, really raw and dirty, Frank really present on it. That mp3 is one of my fav Deftones songs, ever. When I first heard Beware in Sao Paulo back in 07, that shit got me so pumped and crazy that I fell in love with it on the spot (look it up on youtube, ITS INSANE). The live version is way better than the version that ended up on the record, imho. I hate that one. Makes the song no justice.
edit: here it is.
https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI (https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY)
They say... The first time is the best. ;)
I still remember falling into the bushes when the line started moving to enter the venue, lol..
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
I agree with you 100%. I remember listening to a different version of the song, really raw and dirty, Frank really present on it. That mp3 is one of my fav Deftones songs, ever. When I first heard Beware in Sao Paulo back in 07, that shit got me so pumped and crazy that I fell in love with it on the spot (look it up on youtube, ITS INSANE). The live version is way better than the version that ended up on the record, imho. I hate that one. Makes the song no justice.
edit: here it is.
https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI (https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY)
They say... The first time is the best. ;)
I still remember falling into the bushes when the line started moving to enter the venue, lol..
Sounds like you had a good pre-game!
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
I'm probably biased about Beware because I heard the song live first and it blew me the fuck away. I thought it was one of the best songs they had ever written and it probably is. But then I heard the album version and Chino's voice just sounded so compressed and Frank's synths were gone. My expectations were too high for that one, maybe.
I agree with you 100%. I remember listening to a different version of the song, really raw and dirty, Frank really present on it. That mp3 is one of my fav Deftones songs, ever. When I first heard Beware in Sao Paulo back in 07, that shit got me so pumped and crazy that I fell in love with it on the spot (look it up on youtube, ITS INSANE). The live version is way better than the version that ended up on the record, imho. I hate that one. Makes the song no justice.
edit: here it is.
https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI (https://youtu.be/0ME7K-aNGPI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhSQHpqhkY)
They say... The first time is the best. ;)
I still remember falling into the bushes when the line started moving to enter the venue, lol..
Sounds like you had a good pre-game!
It was my first time watching them live, I was 25, with my best friends. It was awesome! Other than the fact that for a split second, I thought I was about to be stomped to death...
Guys the next single is Pompeji and will drop on the 11th, my uncle at Nintendo told it to me.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 03, 2020, 09:19 PM
Guys the next single is Pompeji and will drop on the 11th, my uncle at Nintendo told it to me.
From Nintendo? Sounds like a credible source. Can't wait, thanks.
Nah the new single will be "The Spell of Mathematics" The description online from the leak sounds so good.
Apparently the song starts with a spoken word accapella round table post-modern argument with Abe, Chino, Frank and Sergio trying to convince Steph that the Earth isn't flat. It then ends with a hidden track "Pink Cellphone 2.0" which is actually Fergies National Anthem sampled into a 13/8 frogstomping banger.
Released will be 10th Sept. Nintendo My Told Me, he works with my uncle.
Ohms is secretly a double album. Stephen sings all the songs on the second "disk".
Quote from: Playhouse on Sep 04, 2020, 01:53 AM
Nah the new single will be "The Spell of Mathematics" The description online from the leak sounds so good.
Apparently the song starts with a spoken word accapella round table post-modern argument with Abe, Chino, Frank and Sergio trying to convince Steph that the Earth isn't flat. It then ends with a hidden track "Pink Cellphone 2.0" which is actually Fergies National Anthem sampled into a 13/8 frogstomping banger.
Released will be 10th Sept. Nintendo My Told Me, he works with my uncle.
"All things can be quantified but one: the sheer and infinite beauty of our eternally expanding universe"
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Quote from: Playhouse on Sep 04, 2020, 01:53 AM
Nah the new single will be "The Spell of Mathematics" The description online from the leak sounds so good.
Apparently the song starts with a spoken word accapella round table post-modern argument with Abe, Chino, Frank and Sergio trying to convince Steph that the Earth isn't flat. It then ends with a hidden track "Pink Cellphone 2.0" which is actually Fergies National Anthem sampled into a 13/8 frogstomping banger.
Released will be 10th Sept. Nintendo My Told Me, he works with my uncle.
"All things can be quantified but one: the sheer and infinite beauty of our eternally expanding universe"
-Donald Trump
I'm reporting you. You said the D word.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 04, 2020, 03:24 AM
Quote from: Playhouse on Sep 04, 2020, 01:53 AM
Nah the new single will be "The Spell of Mathematics" The description online from the leak sounds so good.
Apparently the song starts with a spoken word accapella round table post-modern argument with Abe, Chino, Frank and Sergio trying to convince Steph that the Earth isn't flat. It then ends with a hidden track "Pink Cellphone 2.0" which is actually Fergies National Anthem sampled into a 13/8 frogstomping banger.
Released will be 10th Sept. Nintendo My Told Me, he works with my uncle.
"All things can be quantified but one: the sheer and infinite beauty of our eternally expanding universe"
-Donald Trump
😂
he sounds like a wise man
3 more weeks ...
Review of Ohms in Spanish here: https://issuu.com/rockzonemag/docs/rz_172/40
No single today guys.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 04:14 PM
Review of Ohms in Spanish here: https://issuu.com/rockzonemag/docs/rz_172/40
"Ohms is not a revolutionary work, but I assure is another great deftones album..."
We need to be patient...
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 04, 2020, 04:18 PM
No single today guys.
You don't exactly have a finger on the pulse, do you?
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 04:14 PM
Review of Ohms in Spanish here: https://issuu.com/rockzonemag/docs/rz_172/40
most of their reviews seem to be scored with 8's.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 04, 2020, 04:18 PM
No single today guys.
No way. We never would have guessed.
Quote from: mono on Sep 04, 2020, 04:19 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 04:14 PM
Review of Ohms in Spanish here: https://issuu.com/rockzonemag/docs/rz_172/40
"Ohms is not a revolutionary work, but I assure is another great deftones album..."
We need to be patient...
I just want deftones to sound like deftones and to make kick ass music. Not every album has to "break new ground". When band tries too hard to be revolutionary, it usually end up bad.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 04, 2020, 04:43 PM
Quote from: mono on Sep 04, 2020, 04:19 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 04:14 PM
Review of Ohms in Spanish here: https://issuu.com/rockzonemag/docs/rz_172/40
"Ohms is not a revolutionary work, but I assure is another great deftones album..."
We need to be patient...
I just want deftones to sound like deftones and to make kick ass music. Not every album has to "break new ground". When band tries too hard to be revolutionary, it usually end up bad.
This album begs to differ:
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So I guess we'll be seeing reviews start to pop up today and early next week
If the press is starting to get the album in, I'm guessing it's only a matter of time before a leak is out there
I'm sure the music press will have had it for a few weeks already. But, yes, reviews from next week I'd say.
I think this album will go the distance and appear a day or two before it's official release.
I don't think it will. If Manson can't do it. I don't think Deftones can.
9/10 (four and a half stars) in the new edition of DIY magazine (page 64).
https://diymag.com/magazine
It's hotting up guys!
OH Shiitttt....
Is This Link Is Dead the new WGTB? Or Elite or Rats!?
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 04, 2020, 05:43 PM
9/10 (four and a half stars) in the new edition of DIY magazine (page 64).
https://diymag.com/magazine
Great find man. If that review doesn't get a person excited, I don't know what to say to you. Looking forward to it even more now
Doesn't labels share albums with subtle watermarks to the press to know who leaked the album if it happens and it's not worth it at all to do so for serious medias?
Nowadays I think they get sent secure links to them and that they disappear after a certain amount of time.
Unrelated: Seeing chino perform live makes me sad nowadays. I wish he had a voice coach early in his career.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 04, 2020, 06:32 PM
Nowadays I think they get sent secure links to them and that they disappear after a certain amount of time.
Pretty much this.
I typed the Spanish review into Google Translate:
"It is very curious what happens with Deftones. To which it is confirmed that the band is starting to work on a new album, everyone begins to speculate about what it will sound like, when, in reality, we all know the answer: Deftones. Ohms is no exception.
To be a band with that aura of groundbreaking and innovative within metal, a reputation that without a doubt they earned over everything 20 years ago with White Pony, their successive works have offered rather few surprises. But we don't seem to learn, and the anticipation in the months leading up to the release of his ninth album has been brutal, largely motivated by Terry Date's return to production at the helm of 17 years. And that, the beginning of Genesis, with those keyboards and some guitar notes, which seem like a tribute to Pink Floyd's Shine On You Crazy Diamond, make us think that maybe this time those from Sacramento are going to offer us something different, but the illusion lasts only 50 seconds; what it takes the cavalry to enter the trot with a riff by Stephen Carpenter and Chino Moreno alternating shouts with their characteristic dragging melodies. The mastery of the group to play with different intensities is once again shown in all its glory on songs such as Urantia, Ceremony, Radiant City or Headless, with a central passage of the most beautiful. For its part, Error stands out for its energy and a catchier than average chorus, and Ohms for that screwed up and devastating riff. Date's hand is noticeable in a warmer and more organic sound in which each musician finds their space to breathe.
I think Frank Delgado has never had so much prominence, serving as an essential element in the transition between Pompeji and This Link Is Dead, or in the atmospheric and brilliant The Spell of Mathematics, and the Abe Cunningham drums also sound fantastic. If you have read this far, I suppose you have already deduced that Ohms is not a revolutionary work, but what I do assure you is that it is another great Deftones album."
Genesis is a trillion times better than they are making it sound.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 04, 2020, 05:43 PM
9/10 (four and a half stars) in the new edition of DIY magazine (page 64).
https://diymag.com/magazine
Reading that review gave me chills. We're so close now
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 04, 2020, 04:18 PM
No single today guys.
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Seems like I was right about This Link Is Dead having heavy moments. Can't wait to hear that one.
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:01 PM
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Thanks for posting that man - ordered!
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:09 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:01 PM
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Thanks for posting that man - ordered!
it sold out in the middle of me ordering it. oh well, i just ordered one from amazon, not autographed. i don't have anything signed by them. met them once, hung out with them for like 8 hours back in 2006(Chi was the only one not there), but it didn't cross my mind to take anything for them to sign. took a few pics
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:09 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:01 PM
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Thanks for posting that man - ordered!
No problem, I remember ordering an autographed copy of GORE when they had it as well.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 04, 2020, 08:35 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:09 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:01 PM
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Thanks for posting that man - ordered!
it sold out in the middle of me ordering it. oh well, i just ordered one from amazon, not autographed. i don't have anything signed by them. met them once, hung out with them for like 8 hours back in 2006(Chi was the only one not there), but it didn't cross my mind to take anything for them to sign. took a few pics
Ah man! Hanging out with the band is far more impressive than an autograph!!!
I think there's signed art prints with the cassettes still available here:
https://deftones.warnerartists.net/uk/ohms-triple-cassette-bundle.html
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:09 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:01 PM
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Thanks for posting that man - ordered!
No problem, I remember ordering an autographed copy of GORE when they had it as well.
Seems like I got one of the last copies so that was a great tip off. Haven't got anything signed by them yet so that's pretty sweet.
Probably unlikely but I'm rooting for a no leak release.
And yes, I think labels have learned their lesson and been a lot more secure this time around. I think the watermark thing is going on indeed.
Once an album is shipped to stores there isn't much they can do to stop a leak.
I think it'll happen the week before release.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 04, 2020, 11:05 PM
Once an album is shipped to stores there isn't much they can do to stop a leak.
I think it'll happen the week before release.
Facts. Case in point, the last Tool album. Ohms will leak by the 19th at the latest. Maybe in the next 10 or so days at the earliest.
Fair. Not happening here though. ;)
Nope. Not here :D
I bet at least 5 to 7 days before the release date. It seems to be that for most bands nowadays. Which isn't too bad. Everybody is going to stream it online anyways so they're not really making their money from album sales.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 04, 2020, 08:35 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:09 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:01 PM
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Thanks for posting that man - ordered!
it sold out in the middle of me ordering it. oh well, i just ordered one from amazon, not autographed. i don't have anything signed by them. met them once, hung out with them for like 8 hours back in 2006(Chi was the only one not there), but it didn't cross my mind to take anything for them to sign. took a few pics
Ah man! Hanging out with the band is far more impressive than an autograph!!!
I think there's signed art prints with the cassettes still available here:
https://deftones.warnerartists.net/uk/ohms-triple-cassette-bundle.html
Never hung out with them but had them stop a show for me. https://youtu.be/Vqn6EYL1k1Q. 1:02:20 during Lotion. (lost my glasses. lame. chino thought a girl i was with lost them. nope - it was me. he lets my fat ass sit on stage the rest of the show. roadie gave me beers to hang out on stage. 20 years ago, cut me some slack - I'm a changed man.)
P.S - at 23:05 this show became my favorite performance of Change, ever. that scream is amazing.
Oh yeah, my original point: I'm super psyched for this album, and I hope it doesn't leak at all. My two year old son gets down to Acid Hologram - proud Dad.
Cheers!
P.P.S - met them and brought this up during Diamond Eyes tour. No band member had any recollection. LOL.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 05, 2020, 02:55 AM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 04, 2020, 08:35 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 04, 2020, 08:09 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 04, 2020, 08:01 PM
Newbury Comics has signed Ohms CDs
https://www.newburycomics.com/products/deftones-ohms_cd_autographed?variant=32776333557865
Thanks for posting that man - ordered!
it sold out in the middle of me ordering it. oh well, i just ordered one from amazon, not autographed. i don't have anything signed by them. met them once, hung out with them for like 8 hours back in 2006(Chi was the only one not there), but it didn't cross my mind to take anything for them to sign. took a few pics
Ah man! Hanging out with the band is far more impressive than an autograph!!!
I think there's signed art prints with the cassettes still available here:
https://deftones.warnerartists.net/uk/ohms-triple-cassette-bundle.html
Never hung out with them but had them stop a show for me. https://youtu.be/Vqn6EYL1k1Q. 1:02:20 during Lotion. (lost my glasses. lame. chino thought a girl i was with lost them. nope - it was me. he lets my fat ass sit on stage the rest of the show. roadie gave me beers to hang out on stage. 20 years ago, cut me some slack - I'm a changed man.)
P.S - at 23:05 this show became my favorite performance of Change, ever. that scream is amazing.
Oh yeah, my original point: I'm super psyched for this album, and I hope it doesn't leak at all. My two year old son gets down to Acid Hologram - proud Dad.
Cheers!
P.P.S - met them and brought this up during Diamond Eyes tour. No band member had any recollection. LOL.
That fucking awesome.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 05, 2020, 01:16 AM
Fair. Not happening here though. ;)
;) ;) Sure it won't
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 04, 2020, 05:43 PM
9/10 (four and a half stars) in the new edition of DIY magazine (page 64).
https://diymag.com/magazine
The calm before the storm. Here, for the more anxious ones. DIY Magazine, page 64 as mentioned by LG95:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pfg1JmVM/ohms-DIYMAG-PAG64-65.jpg)
ps: tnx for all the links/scans, guys!
Leaks are to Ves what sand is to Anakin
Quote from: Far away on Sep 05, 2020, 06:19 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 04, 2020, 05:43 PM
9/10 (four and a half stars) in the new edition of DIY magazine (page 64).
https://diymag.com/magazine
The calm before the storm. Here, for the more anxious ones. DIY Magazine, page 64 as mentioned by LG95:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pfg1JmVM/ohms-DIYMAG-PAG64-65.jpg)
ps: tnx for all the links/scans, guys!
Great review, hype has just gone into overload for me!
Will this be the first time all songs will be discussed upon Official release of the album? With past albums I always waited for my cd to arrive before listening to any new Deftones album - so would always kill me to read all the leak reviews beforehand on the board! Will be cool to hear it at the same time as everyone else this time :)
Ohms is #2 on the Billboard Charts Hot Hard Rock Songs.... right behind... Five Finger Death Punch... :P
I would say that Genesis could be the perfect soundtrack for the apocalypse, but I think it's actually the sound of the apocalypse itself.
All the songs are now Shazam-able.
Oh boy, this record will leak.
It'll leak for sure, just a matter of time now.
would u listen the leak?
I will yeah. I've got no problem with it. I've got the album on preorder, either way I'll hear the music.
Me too, i pre ordered on itunes (dont know if this helps the band that much) and also got the hoodie + lp on their website. wouldnt feel guilty for the leak, been waiting almost 4 and a half years for this. Thinking we are 20 days left makes me excited.
I got it off Napster.
Quote from: Bqad on Sep 06, 2020, 03:28 AM
I got it off Napster.
Limewire and SoulSeek also have it #OldSchool
I havent found it so i assume your joking?
Quote from: Jackrider53 on Sep 06, 2020, 12:43 PM
I havent found it so i assume your joking?
I think so.
It's on Audiogalaxy guys.
It's half passed the monkeys ass and a quarter to his balls.
Hilarious.
Considering the fact that Deftones' closers are some of my favorite songs of theirs ever, Ohms is pretty underwhelming. It's a solid 3.5/5 and that chorus riff is a bit tiresome on repeated listens. I'm kinda worried about this album, not gonna lie. Anyone else in a similar boat?
No
fuckin lol
The boys have never let me down. They are and have always been one of the most consistent, innovative bands in music and I have no doubt Ohms will be another great record and testament to their legacy
Quote from: Jackrider53 on Sep 06, 2020, 12:43 PM
I havent found it so i assume your joking?
What do you think?
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 06, 2020, 03:04 PM
Considering the fact that Deftones' closers are some of my favorite songs of theirs ever, Ohms is pretty underwhelming. It's a solid 3.5/5 and that chorus riff is a bit tiresome on repeated listens. I'm kinda worried about this album, not gonna lie. Anyone else in a similar boat?
No, man! This is going to be a killer set of songs. Trust me.
Ohms is just a great rock song. It has a very Deftones feel to it. The type of rock they create is becoming extremely rare anymore for me to discover. I honestly had to try to like gore so I was a little worried about the new album. If Terry produced gore I wonder what it would have been like I guess we will never know. I don't really get into vinyl but I want to support the band maybe I will just buy a
t-shirt and the cd even though the cd will probably just collect dust some where since I use Apple Music.
Ohms is not the best song ever, but getting worried just because of one song is weird to me, especially if its a 3.5/5 in your book.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 06, 2020, 03:04 PM
Considering the fact that Deftones' closers are some of my favorite songs of theirs ever, Ohms is pretty underwhelming. It's a solid 3.5/5 and that chorus riff is a bit tiresome on repeated listens. I'm kinda worried about this album, not gonna lie. Anyone else in a similar boat?
Sad but true :( I love that you guys like the song so much, I like the video and the artwork so far, and I've been listening to Koi No Yokan a lot lately. Still love em, so much history! Been lurkin since right before the SNW days, but that album was the album that pretty much (almost) killed my enthusiasm for their music. To me (!) the Crosses album is so much more interesting and cohesive to listen to than every album post the selftitled. Still love the band and some songs on every record (Beware <3, Rivière, Pink Cellphone FUCK THE HATERS, Poltergeist, Tempest <333, Rapture, (L)MIRL), but OHMS sounds like they just wrote a song. After the sixth time listening to it I couldn't stand it anymore, fucking broke my heart. It's just that Gore wasn't actually THAT bad, it could've been so great. Like.. y'know, an Brendan O'Brien album (Issues after Follow The Leader, A Crow Left Of The Murder after Morning View) after Koi No Yokan. Something that sounds.. organic. But jeez louise what a hot mess. But to me it still had some ideas. OHMS on the other hand sounds just like a template. Love the drums, but I just can't stand the repetitive structure they always seem to fall back to anymore.. :(
BUT no hate tho, still anticipate the release of the album :)
Go in with no expectations. If you build it up in your mind you will just end up being disappointed. I've learned that from past albums. Wait for the damn thing to come out, and go listen to some other music in the mean time. I like to listen to any non-heavy music, i.e. electronic, jazz, etc. like Deftones pre-show music to cleanse the palette.
Quote from: lahemi on Sep 06, 2020, 06:55 PM
It's just that Gore wasn't actually THAT bad .......... But to me it still had some ideas. OHMS on the other hand sounds just like a template. Love the drums, but I just can't stand the repetitive structure they always seem to fall back to anymore.. :(
Comparing an album to a song is kinda dumb
I remember a lot of fans complaining about Minerva when it came out, saying the melody was too simple and the song repetitive.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 06, 2020, 07:03 PM
Go in with no expectations. If you build it up in your mind you will just end up being disappointed.
That pretty much applies to anything you're anticipating in life. Especially when it's something you're really looking forward to. Great advice.
I'm really digging the single but I'm very disappointed with it being the album closer. It's just not a closing song in my opinion. And their album closers are the best. They have pretty much and I favorite tracks on the last six records. I don't understand why they chose this song as the closer and why they chose to put it out first. It just doesn't make much sense to me.
Maybe my opinion will change when I listen to the record so I'm going to go into it with an open mind. I'm still very excited for this record.
well for me, to know if ohms fit as a closer, ill have to listen to the second to last song. Ohms is fine as a prologue if the previous song sounds like a epic closer.
Quote from: HooiserBowhunter on Sep 06, 2020, 06:39 PM
Ohms is just a great rock song. It has a very Deftones feel to it. The type of rock they create is becoming extremely rare anymore for me to discover. I honestly had to try to like gore so I was a little worried about the new album. If Terry produced gore I wonder what it would have been like I guess we will never know. I don't really get into vinyl but I want to support the band maybe I will just buy a
t-shirt and the cd even though the cd will probably just collect dust some where since I use Apple Music.
Gore with Terry producing would have just sounded more crisp, and well produced. the song themselves would stay they same, since Terry only records them, and never tells them what to write. they do all their own writing
Quote from: buflen on Sep 06, 2020, 07:55 PM
well for me, to know if ohms fit as a closer, ill have to listen to the second to last song. Ohms is fine as a prologue if the previous song sounds like a epic closer.
It's funny that you say this, because I was just about to say this exact same thing. For example, I don't think Moana would be a good closer track when listening to it isolated from the rest of the album, but it really serves a purpose after Anniversary in the track listing. Anniversary is this very floaty atmospheric that makes for a good traditional close to the flow of the album, then Moana feels like an epilogue to bring up the energy of the album one last time and close things on more of a high note.
By the way, didn't they remove the Morse code graphics that were on some of the tracks on Spotify? Because it looks like they're back up again
Quote from: buflen on Sep 06, 2020, 07:55 PM
well for me, to know if ohms fit as a closer, ill have to listen to the second to last song. Ohms is fine as a prologue if the previous song sounds like a epic closer.
Basically. Ohms doesn't feel like a closer to me on its own, but let's wait until we actually hear the album in its full context before we really make that call.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 06, 2020, 07:03 PM
Go in with no expectations. If you build it up in your mind you will just end up being disappointed. I've learned that from past albums. Wait for the damn thing to come out, and go listen to some other music in the mean time. I like to listen to any non-heavy music, i.e. electronic, jazz, etc. like Deftones pre-show music to cleanse the palette.
1000% this
Some of you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 07, 2020, 07:15 AM
Some of you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
More context please?
Covid and massive anticipation are the context. Relax people. It's almost here. Don't overthink it or you'll screw it for yourself. Here's an advice: check out other music. ;D
If you guys like instrumental metal, check out "night verses". Their album From the Gallery of Sleep is absolutely killer.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 07, 2020, 09:53 AM
If you guys like instrumental metal, check out "night verses". Their album From the Gallery of Sleep is absolutely killer.
Yes yes yes. Their second album Into The Vanishing Light, despite not being instrumental, has some Deftones undertones here and there. I highly recommend the song Strange Graves in particular.
And hi! I've been lurking for a long time but I was a regular on a French Deftones forum (if I remember correctly) and on Glassjaw.net as well. 18 days to go!
^ I love Night Verses . Got to see them about a year ago. They were incredible.
Sleep Token might help you survive till 9/25.
Haven't been here for a few weeks, was there any talk about them dropping another single before the album release?
Quote from: stinkfist on Sep 07, 2020, 03:56 PM
Haven't been here for a few weeks, was there any talk about them dropping another single before the album release?
On the 18th.
I can't really recommend much heavy music because I don't listen to much other than my favorites which are obviously Deftones. I love old school shit I guess: Meshuggah, Failure, Hum, Tool, etc. The newest Idiot Pilot that came out of nowhere last year and the new Will Haven was ace.
Here's some downtempo shit to calm you down ;D
Moon Diagrams - 2019 Trappy Bats mini LP is dope. It's the drummer for Deerhunter, another band you should check out. [edit: I just read that this album was recorded after a "reflective night in jail"]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqsWsbuaU5M
and though I'm not huge King Krule fan I love his Archy Marshall album and this song from his new 2020 album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWnK2t_FxrY
Quote from: Draken on Sep 07, 2020, 04:54 PM
Moon Diagrams - 2019 Trappy Bats mini LP is dope. It's the drummer for Deerhunter, another band you should check out. [edit: I just read that this album was recorded after a "reflective night in jail"]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqsWsbuaU5M
This is chill. Reminds me of some of Akira Yamaoka's mellower Silent Hill music.
Yesssss, I love Akira Yamaoka's work. If you want "atmospheric" then he is the GOAT.
Speaking of Silent Hill, I have something to share on the board ;) but I'll have to do it later because I'm working right now.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 07, 2020, 05:55 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 07, 2020, 04:54 PM
Moon Diagrams - 2019 Trappy Bats mini LP is dope. It's the drummer for Deerhunter, another band you should check out. [edit: I just read that this album was recorded after a "reflective night in jail"]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqsWsbuaU5M
This is chill. Reminds me of some of Akira Yamaoka's mellower Silent Hill music.
You all should be listening to Underneath by Code Orange.
I tried, but I can't get into them.
When do you guys think we'll get the 30 second previews?
2 more hours
been listening to Loathe a lot lately, its helping me get through the new album hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2_vW8jN454
this song sounds obscenely alike pink maggit, and chino tweeted one of their songs once which is cool. their heavy shit also slaps
I like the Loathe album although I think it's been a tad overrated by a lot of people.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 07, 2020, 08:30 PM
When do you guys think we'll get the 30 second previews?
I don't remember 30 second previews for Gore. Maybe there will be no Ohms previews either.
I remember couple of things before Gore release:
-> greGORErio - some funny guy who leaked interesting facts about the album ~2 months before the release date. No one belived him but all he said was correct;
-> it leaked just ~ 3-4 days before the official release (TokyoDrifer was chasing people to get a link)
-> SL community loved the production at the beginning :D
-> someone said H/T sounds like Pink Floyd lol
-> hype was bigger
Ummmm yeah they totally sound like they asked the band if they could write that intro and use pink Maggitt to walk on through this track. And that's why I couldn't listen anymore sorry I'm glad you like it but it's so obscenely the same as you said :-\
NOT AN ACCIDENT but Obviously a tribute so I won't hate
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 07, 2020, 10:06 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 07, 2020, 08:30 PM
When do you guys think we'll get the 30 second previews?
I don't remember 30 second previews for Gore. Maybe there will be no Ohms previews either.
I remember couple of things before Gore release:
-> greGORErio - some funny guy who leaked interesting facts about the album ~2 months before the release date. No one belived him but all he said was correct;
-> it leaked just ~ 3-4 days before the official release (TokyoDrifer was chasing people to get a link)
-> SL community loved the production at the beginning :D
-> someone said H/T sounds like Pink Floyd lol
-> hype was bigger
I too remember greGORErio. He said something about Rubicon too I think? Maybe posted a picture of the vehicle? I don't remember 30 second clips for Gore. Maybe it's a thing of the past. I remember them for KNY. I kept playing the one for Gauze over and over. It was so different from everything on DE. Loved it. Im guessing we won't get them for Ohms.
I remember previews for kny but not Gore. Also I feel like the hype for alms was bigger first but now it's really chilled out. I think people are just as hyped but they are a little cautious because of how divisive Gore sounded. All I know is that when ohms releases this place is going to go crazy. It's impossible to know what the critics will think but I'm almost certain this one is going to bring back a lot of the old fans. I cannot wait for that day :)
"Old fans" sounds strange to me as far as Deftones goes.... cant imagine being a fan and not and again being a fan. Its a certain taste i think no matter wt. who cares abt em anyways whoever they r. WE can celebrate the new record and the rest of this history for all i care. They r casual i guess like with anything
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 07, 2020, 07:15 AM
Some of you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
For talking about a deftones album on a deftones board?
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 07, 2020, 07:15 AM
Some of you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
For talking about a deftones album on a deftones board?
Sure, let's go with that
I think when people say it will bring back the "Old Fans" they are referring to fans PRE Diamond Eyes. I think their sound is pretty different compared to anything before Diamond Eyes. I guess I would fall in to the older fans category even though I love Diamond Eyes's sound lol.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 07, 2020, 04:54 PM
I can't really recommend much heavy music because I don't listen to much other than my favorites which are obviously Deftones. I love old school shit I guess: Meshuggah, Failure, Hum, Tool, etc. The newest Idiot Pilot that came out of nowhere last year and the new Will Haven was ace.
Here's some downtempo shit to calm you down ;D
Moon Diagrams - 2019 Trappy Bats mini LP is dope. It's the drummer for Deerhunter, another band you should check out. [edit: I just read that this album was recorded after a "reflective night in jail"]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqsWsbuaU5M
and though I'm not huge King Krule fan I love his Archy Marshall album and this song from his new 2020 album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWnK2t_FxrY
Just logged to thank you about the info regarding the new Idiot Pilot album....I didnt know they released it. Listening now and it blew me away.
Also, I will give a shot to this Moon Diagrams album since I enjoy Deerhunter a lot.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 08, 2020, 02:06 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 01:57 AM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 07, 2020, 07:15 AM
Some of you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
For talking about a deftones album on a deftones board?
Sure, let’s go with that
Hey, if you ask me, you are the one embarrassing yourself by being condescending and bringing nothing of merit.
What's up guys? Sorry been traveling back home. I've been in the dark, any time line for the next signal?
If you guys are looking for other things to listen to in the meantime, The Ocean's new album is also set to be released on 9/25/2020, same day as Ohms. They're an awesome prog/post-metal band from Germany. They're just tops, the bee's knees, the cat's meow, if you will. I think Deftones fans should enjoy them.
Here's a song from the upcoming album.
https://youtu.be/BPMrwSwl8is
Quote from: There Will Be Blood on Sep 08, 2020, 06:09 AM
What's up guys? Sorry been traveling back home. I've been in the dark, any time line for the next signal?
Yep, the 18th.
Deftones.com updated with a mailing list. Probably just to keep updated with tour dates, merch, etc..
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 08, 2020, 03:51 PM
Deftones.com updated with a mailing list. Probably just to keep updated with tour dates, merch, etc..
On Instagram stories too.
"We'll look out for you''
I would like they tease us something by mail instead of a new single.
New Ohms merch:
https://deftones.merchdirect.com/
Those new shirts are awful, hopefully they'll have better ones after the album releases.
They are better than some of the Gore shirts at least, IMO.
Pretty exciting that review called Ohms their magnum opus. I'm sure many will disagree and still say White Pony is their magnum opus, but I do think Ohms is definitely going to be considered one of their best and many will rank it at no. 2 after White Pony.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 05:33 PM
Pretty exciting that review called Ohms their magnum opus. I'm sure many will disagree and still say White Pony is their magnum opus, but I do think Ohms is definitely going to be considered one of their best and many will rank it at no. 2 after White Pony.
DIY mag or is there another review posted?
Upset Magazine.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 05:42 PM
Upset Magazine.
Oh nice. Hopefully someone will be able to scan it soon.
I've been listening to a lot of self-titled lately just to get excited for a new Terry Date record.
Love the end of Battle -Axe when Chinos guitar comes in. Such a beautiful moment. The drums and guitars are mixed so perfectly. Glad they finally started playing this one at shows the last few years. It's a beautiful dark song.
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 08, 2020, 05:44 PM
I've been listening to a lot of self-titled lately just to get excited for a new Terry Date record.
Love the end of Battle -Axe when Chinos guitar comes in. Such a beautiful moment. The drums and guitars are mixed so perfectly. Glad they finally started playing this one at shows the last few years. It's a beautiful dark song.
The production throughout that record is just amazing. It has a gloomy haze to it that really sets the mood and builds atmosphere
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I figured some had still not known about it yet. I was lucky enough to see it, I forgot how I found out but nevertheless it was a very pleasant surprise! Mammoth is just pure awesome.
Deerhunter live is amazing btw. I saw Bradford Cox sneaking in to put more of his artwork up for sale at the merch booth and I was like 10 feet away from him but unfortunately this girl grabbed him for a picture and then afterwards he ran off backstage. Moses Archuleta is amazing on drums, definitely check out Moon Diagrams.
Quote from: film_maker on Sep 08, 2020, 03:19 AM
Just logged to thank you about the info regarding the new Idiot Pilot album....I didnt know they released it. Listening now and it blew me away.
Also, I will give a shot to this Moon Diagrams album since I enjoy Deerhunter a lot.
Oh, yeah, the newest Idiot Pilot is solid. Some songs with Deftones vibes (as well as some Radiohead vibes and Blur vibes), so definitely check it out. Kind of a shame they aren't more popular.
While the new album doesn't come, check out this band from NZ that sounds a lot like Deftones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XoOoGfZujk
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 08, 2020, 05:44 PM
I've been listening to a lot of self-titled lately just to get excited for a new Terry Date record.
Love the end of Battle -Axe when Chinos guitar comes in. Such a beautiful moment. The drums and guitars are mixed so perfectly. Glad they finally started playing this one at shows the last few years. It's a beautiful dark song.
Battle Axe is a personal favorite. Such an under rated track. The groove and lyrics are near perfection.
As you might can tell I love that song, personal favorite of mine as well. I liked its original title You Hate Fun lol. I used to loop the 30 sec clip over and over and over again. Gah I hope we don't get any clips before the release of Ohms... I really don't have the willpower to not listen to them all and I'm trying to wait until the 25th. :P
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 08, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 08, 2020, 05:44 PM
I've been listening to a lot of self-titled lately just to get excited for a new Terry Date record.
Love the end of Battle -Axe when Chinos guitar comes in. Such a beautiful moment. The drums and guitars are mixed so perfectly. Glad they finally started playing this one at shows the last few years. It's a beautiful dark song.
Battle Axe is a personal favorite. Such an under rated track. The groove and lyrics are near perfection.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 08, 2020, 06:45 PM
As you might can tell I love that song, personal favorite of mine as well. I liked its original title You Hate Fun lol. I used to loop the 30 sec clip over and over and over again. Gah I hope we don't get any clips before the release of Ohms... I really don't have the willpower to not listen to them all and I'm trying to wait until the 25th. :P
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 08, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 08, 2020, 05:44 PM
I've been listening to a lot of self-titled lately just to get excited for a new Terry Date record.
Love the end of Battle -Axe when Chinos guitar comes in. Such a beautiful moment. The drums and guitars are mixed so perfectly. Glad they finally started playing this one at shows the last few years. It's a beautiful dark song.
Battle Axe is a personal favorite. Such an under rated track. The groove and lyrics are near perfection.
Totally I feel the same way! It has such a beautiful slow paced tempo to it... and still sounds massive . Then the lyrics have a sense of calmness to them. Like he's been through the ringer with this bitch and done. Very heavy.
https://twitter.com/Steven_Hyden/status/1303358632780795906
Can't wait to hear Chino tell all of us the fuck off on This Link Is Dead!
Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 07:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Steven_Hyden/status/1303358632780795906
thats a good sign
It's like the Hum album? 5/10 from Smugthony Knowitalltano confirmed.
What's HUM? And why should it excite me that he said that?
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 08, 2020, 07:38 PM
What's HUM? And why should it excite me that he said that?
Hum is a band from the 90's that was an influence on Deftones. They recently put out a very solid album after a very long hiatus called Inlet.
This is HUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0lfDQc4P6o
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 08, 2020, 07:38 PM
What's HUM? And why should it excite me that he said that?
I'm enjoying their new album Inlet quite a lot actually.
Inlet's a great record. It'll definitely be in my top twenty come the end of the year.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 07:33 PM
It's like the Hum album? 5/10 from Smugthony Knowitalltano confirmed.
I'm pretty sure Anthony Fantano encourage people to make their own opinion on albums and not taking his as face value. Well, from his video alone, I don't care about his social medias.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 07:54 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 07:33 PM
It's like the Hum album? 5/10 from Smugthony Knowitalltano confirmed.
I'm pretty sure Anthony Fantano encourage people to make their own opinion on albums and not taking his as face value. Well, from his video alone, I don't care about his social medias.
Yes, yes - we know it's just his opinion, right? Of course, of course...but if he gives our precious Deftones' new album Ohms a bad review, we riot.
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 07:54 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 07:33 PM
It's like the Hum album? 5/10 from Smugthony Knowitalltano confirmed.
I'm pretty sure Anthony Fantano encourage people to make their own opinion on albums and not taking his as face value. Well, from his video alone, I don't care about his social medias.
Yes, yes - we know it's just his opinion, right? Of course, of course...but if he gives our precious Deftones' new album Ohms a bad review, we riot.
If someone else's opinion makes you that mad, you are either insecure in your own opinion, or need a thicker skin. I don't trust reviews in general and prefer to make my own opinion, except if the consensus of everyone is that its shit, then I don't bother.
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 07:54 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 07:33 PM
It's like the Hum album? 5/10 from Smugthony Knowitalltano confirmed.
I'm pretty sure Anthony Fantano encourage people to make their own opinion on albums and not taking his as face value. Well, from his video alone, I don't care about his social medias.
Yes, yes - we know it's just his opinion, right? Of course, of course...but if he gives our precious Deftones' new album Ohms a bad review, we riot.
If someone else's opinion makes you that mad, you are either insecure in your own opinion, or need a thicker skin. I don't trust reviews in general and prefer to make my own opinion, except if the consensus of everyone is that its shit, then I don't bother.
I'm just joking around, man. I don't care what score he gives it. I mean, it would be nice if he likes it, but if not, so be it.
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 08:23 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 07:54 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 07:33 PM
It's like the Hum album? 5/10 from Smugthony Knowitalltano confirmed.
I'm pretty sure Anthony Fantano encourage people to make their own opinion on albums and not taking his as face value. Well, from his video alone, I don't care about his social medias.
Yes, yes - we know it's just his opinion, right? Of course, of course...but if he gives our precious Deftones' new album Ohms a bad review, we riot.
If someone else's opinion makes you that mad, you are either insecure in your own opinion, or need a thicker skin. I don't trust reviews in general and prefer to make my own opinion, except if the consensus of everyone is that its shit, then I don't bother.
I'm just joking around, man. I don't care what score he gives it. I mean, it would be nice if he likes it, but if not, so be it.
Of course, I just saw a lot of hate here on Anthony Fantano. I respect him for telling his opinion without sugar coating it, even if I don't always agree and sometime fully disagree. I prefer that over the reviews that are just nice to every artist, and give a 3/5 or 4/5 to most of them. At least he is entertaining.
and to be honest, I don't 100% disagree with his Gore review lol.
Hope we get to hear a preview of Genesis on Friday!
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 08, 2020, 09:41 PM
Hope we get to hear a preview of Genesis on Friday!
Do you mean a YouTube teaser Or something like that?
Honestly don't care what critics say, I still enjoy watching Anthony's videos even though I rarely agree with him. I think the only album I love that he didn't completely shit on was Loveless. There's been many classic albums that were originally panned by critics, so it basically makes reviews purely entertainment for me.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 08:49 PM
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 08:36 PM
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 08, 2020, 07:54 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 08, 2020, 07:33 PM
It's like the Hum album? 5/10 from Smugthony Knowitalltano confirmed.
I'm pretty sure Anthony Fantano encourage people to make their own opinion on albums and not taking his as face value. Well, from his video alone, I don't care about his social medias.
Yes, yes - we know it's just his opinion, right? Of course, of course...but if he gives our precious Deftones' new album Ohms a bad review, we riot.
If someone else's opinion makes you that mad, you are either insecure in your own opinion, or need a thicker skin. I don't trust reviews in general and prefer to make my own opinion, except if the consensus of everyone is that its shit, then I don't bother.
I'm just joking around, man. I don't care what score he gives it. I mean, it would be nice if he likes it, but if not, so be it.
Of course, I just saw a lot of hate here on Anthony Fantano. I respect him for telling his opinion without sugar coating it, even if I don't always agree and sometime fully disagree. I prefer that over the reviews that are just nice to every artist, and give a 3/5 or 4/5 to most of them. At least he is entertaining.
and to be honest, I don't 100% disagree with his Gore review lol.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 08, 2020, 10:06 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 08, 2020, 09:41 PM
Hope we get to hear a preview of Genesis on Friday!
Do you mean a YouTube teaser Or something like that?
Either youtube or on Apple Music or something like that. Youtube would be cool
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 08, 2020, 07:38 PM
What's HUM? And why should it excite me that he said that?
Because their 1995 album inspired the White Pony cover and also the music (Knife Prty borrowed a little from this track).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6AK6iW4sHE&ab_channel=JACOBR8893
Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork. U think Chino asked him to make it like Hum's cover? Doesnt sound right to me. I think its a coincidence like any cover art with a mammal fearured on it. Just my opinion maybe. I just think that would be a little too obvious and so so so lacking creativity which is part of the fun for us and i would think for the band also.
Shot in the dark here, but for those that have heard most of the album, do you happen to know which song contains the lyric, *edited*
the one that starts with an "u"
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 09, 2020, 12:09 AM
Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork.
Chino looked up and chose the pony clip art for the cover. The logo itself wasn't even designed by them, they just paid for the rights, like the diamond eyes cover. He said it in interview.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 09, 2020, 12:09 AM
Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork. U think Chino asked him to make it like Hum’s cover? Doesnt sound right to me. I think its a coincidence like any cover art with a mammal fearured on it. Just my opinion maybe. I just think that would be a little too obvious and so so so lacking creativity which is part of the fun for us and i would think for the band also.
Pretty sure Chino knew after the WP cover was done that it had some resemblance with the Hum cover, and it's alright....it's definetly a coincidence, but it doesn't hurt to see it as a homage/influence thing too, whatever.
Quote from: all3n_y on Sep 09, 2020, 01:28 AM
Shot in the dark here, but for those that have heard most of the album, do you happen to know which song contains the lyric *edited*?
Pretty sure it's Urantia.
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 09, 2020, 12:09 AM
Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork. U think Chino asked him to make it like Hum's cover? Doesnt sound right to me. I think its a coincidence like any cover art with a mammal fearured on it. Just my opinion maybe. I just think that would be a little too obvious and so so so lacking creativity which is part of the fun for us and i would think for the band also.
Pretty sure Chino knew after the WP cover was done that it had some resemblance with the Hum cover, and it's alright....it's definetly a coincidence, but it doesn't hurt to see it as a homage/influence thing too, whatever.
Ok fair enough doesnt hurt at all. It is one of the things I like most about them that they are not afraid to talk about or admit somebody being an influence on some thing so I could buy it I guess
Quote from: I_Know_ok on Sep 09, 2020, 03:29 AM
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YIKES!
10 years ago I would have listened to all the low quality leaks already. I'm glad I haven't this time.
I hope in ten years (if deftones are still a band) i can say the same thing. really not a grat decision listening those leaks.
God Help Me!
So excited for the new music!!!
Quote from: buflen on Sep 09, 2020, 02:03 AM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 09, 2020, 12:09 AM
Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork.
Chino looked up and chose the pony clip art for the cover. The logo itself wasn't even designed by them, they just paid for the rights, like the diamond eyes cover. He said it in interview.
DE cover was inspired when Chino was staying with the band's long term Uk publicist/friend. She lives in country barn and has barn owls. From the outset, Chino wanted an owl on the cover and Frank M worked up some ideas.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 07, 2020, 10:06 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 07, 2020, 08:30 PM
When do you guys think we'll get the 30 second previews?
I don't remember 30 second previews for Gore. Maybe there will be no Ohms previews either.
I remember couple of things before Gore release:
-> greGORErio - some funny guy who leaked interesting facts about the album ~2 months before the release date. No one belived him but all he said was correct;
-> it leaked just ~ 3-4 days before the official release (TokyoDrifer was chasing people to get a link)
-> SL community loved the production at the beginning :D
-> someone said H/T sounds like Pink Floyd lol
-> hype was bigger
The only thing I remember about the days leading up to Gore was that there was a fake album leak from somewhere in Europe I think and my band's single at the time was randomly used for the title track lol
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 09, 2020, 06:20 AM
I hope in ten years (if deftones are still a band) i can say the same thing. really not a grat decision listening those leaks.
Same here. Curiousity/excitement got the best of me. I've never doubted Deftones as I love every single album, but I always get worried eventually they will write an album I don't jive with. I guess the silver lining of the leaks is that it reassured me I'm going to adore this album as well. It also gets me stoked for all the other fans because I'm almost certain this one is going to be universally adored by fans new and old alike.
I can't stress this enough. I listened to the leaks and I wish I hadn't. I know I'm going to buy it anyway, that feels like a bad excuse I'm giving to myself though.
This album is going to be up there. Don't ruin that experience with those leaks, you really don't want to do that.
Picture yourself trying to take a peak at the Christmas gift the night before, when everyone's asleep. I never did that myself but I can understand how that would ruin the fun for one in the long haul.
The stuff will still be appreciated, but it'll kill the maximum buzz you could have got if you had stuck tight.
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YIKES!
I think my point was made pretty clearly, sorry if you failed to see it!
I dont even get THAT hyped anymore. Does that mean I dont love them? No, I still do, but since S/T was released, I always got myself thinking/acting like some of you, so excited and then the record releases and Im like?: "Thats it?". Nowdays, I just spend my time waiting for a new record listening to some other stuff, and definitely avoid reading/listening too much Deftones.
If its good, its good, if its not, oh well. Theres not a single thing they can do that would erase all the past 24 years of my life they've been with me. Even if they release dogshit records til the day they decide to retire. There, a boomer (kinda) history that none of you asked, lol...
ps: Im not following my own advice, since Im here. But compared to what it used to be a few years ago, its almost nothing.
I wasn't hyped about Gore, maybe because I was going through some personal stuff at the time, but I just didn't get THAT into the build up and release. This time around it's different for me, maybe because I'm glad they are still making music and releasing an album in a year where my son was born.
That with Covid causing mass changes across the world and impacting our lives in different ways, it feels a bit more special
Quote from: buflen on Sep 09, 2020, 05:15 AM
10 years ago I would have listened to all the low quality leaks already. I'm glad I haven't this time.
Absolutely the same for me. I'm really glad that I haven't caved and listened and I most definitely would have done a few years ago so certainly understand why some couldn't resist.
Haven't heard leaks either, it's kind of cool going in fresh. Previously I would be a lot more eager to hear anything regardless of quality, I'm still hyped now but back when Gore came out I didn't really have much going on in life,
I wasn't depressed or anything serious but I had just dropped out of University because I realized I didn't actually want to pursue what I was studying. I had no direction for a while after that but new music was one of those things that broke things up a bit, it helped distract me but I think I was definitely lessening the experience of hearing a new album
Now I've got a better balance going on so new music and games just sneak up on me and I get to enjoy things as intended. I owe alot to Deftones, they really made me broaden my music tastes, because of that I'm into a wider array of bands so there's always new material coming out and I get the feeling of hearing new music all the time which has made me a happier person.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 09, 2020, 10:11 AM
Now I've got a better balance going on so new music and games just sneak up on me and I get to enjoy things as intended. I owe alot to Deftones.
You've finally achieved balance, balance, balance. Interesting.
(this will make sense for you in 2 weeks)
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Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork.
Chino looked up and chose the pony clip art for the cover. The logo itself wasn't even designed by them, they just paid for the rights, like the diamond eyes cover. He said it in interview.
DE cover was inspired when Chino was staying with the band’s long term Uk publicist/friend. She lives in country barn and has barn owls. From the outset, Chino wanted an owl on the cover and Frank M worked up some ideas.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but the cover of DE is a picture taken by John Ross that was taken before and completely unrelated to the album and was on sale on stock images websites like shutterstock. You can't have a cheaper and lazier way to make an album cover. But I guess it fits the album.
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 09, 2020, 12:09 AM
Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork.
Chino looked up and chose the pony clip art for the cover. The logo itself wasn't even designed by them, they just paid for the rights, like the diamond eyes cover. He said it in interview.
DE cover was inspired when Chino was staying with the band's long term Uk publicist/friend. She lives in country barn and has barn owls. From the outset, Chino wanted an owl on the cover and Frank M worked up some ideas.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but the cover of DE is a picture taken by John Ross that was taken before and completely unrelated to the album and was on sale on stock images websites like shutterstock. You can't have a cheaper and lazier way to make an album cover. But I guess it fits the album.
Sure. I know it's a stock image. I was just explaining where the inspiration of the idea came from.
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Funnily enough I would have happily caved to leaks but I genuinely have no idea where to find them haha. Think its just about close enough now though so I'm happy to keep it that way.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I’ve heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
Haha yea, C*** didn't st*** Gore 2 months before release :o, we didn't get low-quality leaks and the actual leak was a few days before the official low-quality release.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 09, 2020, 03:19 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
I want to say it leaked 5 days prior to its official release.
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
Haha yea, C*** didn't st*** Gore 2 months before release :o, we didn't get low-quality leaks and the actual leak was a few days before the official low-quality release.
Sorry what?
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
I want to say it leaked 5 days prior to its official release.
I remember my brother found Gore on the shelf at Target about 4 days before the release date. He brought it up to check-out along with a bunch of other stuff he had, but it wouldn't scan. Manager came over and said it couldn't be released until the release date and took it from him. He said he didn't know how it ended up on the shelf so early. My brother tried to raise a fuss, but (I'm not sure how true this) the manager said they track the sales dates for new releases so they would get in trouble or fined for selling it early.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 09, 2020, 03:19 PM
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
You can say that again...
(https://media.tenor.com/images/e7eaf4b84c83c2cca2b9d2b55f1b9315/tenor.gif)
The Gore leak had even worse audio quality than the final version, believe it or not...
The Gore leak was a vinyl rip.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 09, 2020, 05:37 PM
The Gore leak had even worse audio quality than the final version, believe it or not...
I think it leaked in 2 phases. First one I didn't even bother after the first song.
Yeah, that's what it was. I want to say it leaked four or five days before the release. Same with Koi.
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 03:46 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 09, 2020, 03:19 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
I want to say it leaked 5 days prior to its official release.
I remember my brother found Gore on the shelf at Target about 4 days before the release date. He brought it up to check-out along with a bunch of other stuff he had, but it wouldn't scan. Manager came over and said it couldn't be released until the release date and took it from him. He said he didn't know how it ended up on the shelf so early. My brother tried to raise a fuss, but (I'm not sure how true this) the manager said they track the sales dates for new releases so they would get in trouble or fined for selling it early.
Same happened to me. Was a day or two early and i believe it was a Walmart and they wouldn't sell it. I was really pissed off all day about it. And i do remember the leak being a vinyl rip
Looking back it's hard to tell but I know Gore was leaked in low quality on April 3, 2016. There was an April Fools joke "leak" that only had a few songs on it. Up until the actual leak we had already listened to five tracks I believe. So yeah, Gore leaked about five days prior to the official release, and I'd speculate it will be about the same with this new album...
Completely unrelated but the new Dune movie trailer is out, I posted it over in the Cinema/TV section if anyone's interested in checking it out. Looks pretty damn good from what I can tell.
https://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,21429.0.html (https://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,21429.0.html)
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 03:46 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 09, 2020, 03:19 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
I want to say it leaked 5 days prior to its official release.
I remember my brother found Gore on the shelf at Target about 4 days before the release date. He brought it up to check-out along with a bunch of other stuff he had, but it wouldn't scan. Manager came over and said it couldn't be released until the release date and took it from him. He said he didn't know how it ended up on the shelf so early. My brother tried to raise a fuss, but (I'm not sure how true this) the manager said they track the sales dates for new releases so they would get in trouble or fined for selling it early.
Yeah this is 100% true. I was a manager for Target at this time and I brought it to the register and scanned it for fun. It comes up in bright red and all caps saying this product "cannot be sold until (insert release date)" and to give it to a manager/supervisor.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 09, 2020, 07:00 PM
Looking back it's hard to tell but I know Gore was leaked in low quality on April 3, 2016. There was an April Fools joke "leak" that only had a few songs on it. Up until the actual leak we had already listened to five tracks I believe. So yeah, Gore leaked about five days prior to the official release, and I'd speculate it will be about the same with this new album...
Completely unrelated but the new Dune movie trailer is out, I posted it over in the Cinema/TV section if anyone's interested in checking it out. Looks pretty damn good from what I can tell.
Dude, talk to me about Dune. I'm beyond excited for it! Looks awesome.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 09, 2020, 05:11 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 03:46 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 09, 2020, 03:19 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 09, 2020, 01:31 PM
This is definitely (currently) the least I've heard of a new Deftones record before it actually has been released since White Pony. I agree that it feels kinda nice to not have caved into listening to the low quality leaks
Didn't Gore leak extremely late? I don't remember any low quality leaks like for Ohms.
Well.. the low quality sound came on the official release though
I want to say it leaked 5 days prior to its official release.
I remember my brother found Gore on the shelf at Target about 4 days before the release date. He brought it up to check-out along with a bunch of other stuff he had, but it wouldn't scan. Manager came over and said it couldn't be released until the release date and took it from him. He said he didn't know how it ended up on the shelf so early. My brother tried to raise a fuss, but (I'm not sure how true this) the manager said they track the sales dates for new releases so they would get in trouble or fined for selling it early.
I remember this.
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The Gore leak was a vinyl rip.
That was a great day. I put whoever that guy was through the ringer to rip the shit correctly
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Pretty sure they named the album and Frank Maddocks created the artwork.
Chino looked up and chose the pony clip art for the cover. The logo itself wasn't even designed by them, they just paid for the rights, like the diamond eyes cover. He said it in interview.
DE cover was inspired when Chino was staying with the band's long term Uk publicist/friend. She lives in country barn and has barn owls. From the outset, Chino wanted an owl on the cover and Frank M worked up some ideas.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but the cover of DE is a picture taken by John Ross that was taken before and completely unrelated to the album and was on sale on stock images websites like shutterstock. You can't have a cheaper and lazier way to make an album cover. But I guess it fits the album.
Wasn't that the same band that titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
Anyone else seeing this when they go to Deftones.com?
(https://i.imgur.com/kHXuwLP.png)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 09, 2020, 09:40 PM
Anyone else seeing this when they go to Deftones.com?
(https://i.imgur.com/kHXuwLP.png)
Yep
Seems like they're maybe doing more teases? It's probably nothing, but funny that the website was just down and came back up with this white bar.
Yeah maybe. I certainly can't make anything from it though!
I would definitely think they'll start teasing again for Genesis. I mean, it's certainly a song good enough to tease for a week.
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
Wasn't that the same band that titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
in all honesty, what's wrong with that title? I always felt like it fit the album aesthetic nicely (and tbh if I had to name KNY after a song that would probably be it)
Well the website was taken down and directed to the "not authorized" page, so whatever they're doing is intentional.
Maybe a teaser for Genesis on Friday?
I still get the crossed out Deftones font when I go to deftones.com. Interestingly, when I go to deftones.com/ohms, it says I am not authorized.
Yep sounds like they're working on the site for another teaser like we got for ohms
Just look like an incompetent dev team to me.
I don't think it's incompetence, they've probably got a very skilled team of web developers that work for them.
Taking down an entire page, is no accident, taking down 2 pages, and making physical changes, also no accident.
We'll just have to see what comes of it.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 10, 2020, 12:02 AM
I don't think it's incompetence, they've probably got a very skilled team of web developers that work for them.
Taking down an entire page, is no accident, taking down 2 pages, and making physical changes, also no accident.
We'll just have to see what comes of it.
Really, it's broken html and css. and their website never looked super professional to me.
Its current state is all messed up.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 09, 2020, 10:14 PM
Well the website was taken down and directed to the "not authorized" page, so whatever they're doing is intentional.
Maybe a teaser for Genesis on Friday?
Maybe teasing "this link is dead" heh.
Not sure if you guys saw this yet. New song next week confirmed!
https://youtu.be/wZ0xBXqb8Ek
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 10, 2020, 04:31 AM
Not sure if you guys saw this yet. New song next week confirmed!
https://youtu.be/wZ0xBXqb8Ek
Nice find ! Was good hearing him ask about a lot of things I've been wondering about in terms of the roll out of this new album.
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Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
Wasn't that the same band that titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
in all honesty, what's wrong with that title? I always felt like it fit the album aesthetic nicely (and tbh if I had to name KNY after a song that would probably be it)
I never had a problem with that title like some do. It sounds like an unrequited love that turned into a creepy obsession. Not my favorite song but I can more or less see why it's there.
I can't wait for Stephen to start his YouTube channel!
Not just a new song but also a video for it as well! The interview was posted a little earlier in another thread. Not much talk about the album but there was some good stuff in there, he says the songs blend into one another and that the beginning of Ohms title track is the ending outro of the previous track, which would be Headless.
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Quote from: plagasx on Sep 10, 2020, 04:31 AM
Not sure if you guys saw this yet. New song next week confirmed!
https://youtu.be/wZ0xBXqb8Ek
Nice find ! Was good hearing him ask about a lot of things I've been wondering about in terms of the roll out of this new album.
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 09, 2020, 10:13 PM
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
Wasn't that the same band that titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
in all honesty, what's wrong with that title? I always felt like it fit the album aesthetic nicely (and tbh if I had to name KNY after a song that would probably be it)
It's incredibly pedestrian. The magic about Deftones was always avoiding just that. Taking a simple concept and obscuring it in shadows and layers. Not hitting you over the head with whatever the idea is. And not using trite, commonplace phrases. The title "Romantic Dreams" is not up to that standard in any way.
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
It's incredibly pedestrian. The magic about Deftones was always avoiding just that. Taking a simple concept and obscuring it in shadows and layers. Not hitting you over the head with whatever the idea is. And not using trite, commonplace phrases. The title "Romantic Dreams" is not up to that standard in any way.
The audacity of a random "fan" dictating what an artist should and shouldn't title THEIR art; hilarious at best, and blatant evidence of egomania at worst.
^^ That's a very true statement.
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Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
It's incredibly pedestrian. The magic about Deftones was always avoiding just that. Taking a simple concept and obscuring it in shadows and layers. Not hitting you over the head with whatever the idea is. And not using trite, commonplace phrases. The title "Romantic Dreams" is not up to that standard in any way.
The audacity of a random "fan" dictating what an artist should and shouldn't title THEIR art; hilarious at best, and blatant evidence of egomania at worst.
Anyone can have any opinion they want - it's not "dictating" lmao. The true threat to creativity are blind loyalists like you who take deep, personal offense to any opinion that is critical of whatever you worship and have built your identity into. It's weak-minded insecurity and shilling. Stop being such a baby just because some stranger on the internet doesn't like your favorite band's song title from 8 years ago. What a baby.
You don't seem aware that calling someone a baby on the internet isn't a prime example of maturity.
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Quote from: Divided_Spirit on Sep 10, 2020, 12:12 PM
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
It's incredibly pedestrian. The magic about Deftones was always avoiding just that. Taking a simple concept and obscuring it in shadows and layers. Not hitting you over the head with whatever the idea is. And not using trite, commonplace phrases. The title "Romantic Dreams" is not up to that standard in any way.
The audacity of a random "fan" dictating what an artist should and shouldn't title THEIR art; hilarious at best, and blatant evidence of egomania at worst.
Anyone can have any opinion they want - it's not "dictating" lmao. The true threat to creativity are blind loyalists like you who take deep, personal offense to any opinion that is critical of whatever you worship and have built your identity into. It's weak-minded insecurity and shilling. Stop being such a baby just because some stranger on the internet doesn't like your favorite band's song title from 8 years ago. What a baby.
We are all adults. We know people have opinions. But that doesn't mean those opinions are promoting positivity towards the band. Which is what we're trying to do as members here. Most of the time anyway. If you go and read Chino's comments on expectations people place on others and on them from that recent interview, you'll see he's not too fond of it at all. It's toxic. I may not like every song title they put out but it's not my art. I can dislike it without having to blast them online about it.
You can like or dislike anything. It's fine. But that's different to accusing fucking DEFTONES of being creatively lazy.
hilarious, next level trolling
I hope the next single is Urantia!
I found very interesting how he's not into watching their live stuff because he's such a self-critic. I brought this up just too many times, I wish they'd consider their archives because the potential is unreal. As the DeftonesLive founder, I couldn't be more biased obviously. I wonder what Abe and Stef think about that though.
I would assume that's why the live vinyl series got discontinued after the Adrenaline edition.
really none of them seem to have big egos, and i doubt they listen to or watch their own stuff much. i believe Chino on that for sure. he's self-conscious
i think he said the next song released will have a video as well. i hope it's with director Rafatoon again
I don't think it's necessarily about the ego. As a sports person you could be watching old footage to see where you think you lacked to plan for possibilities to improve on whatever aspect you find yourself struggling in. I can see a performer doing the same, the parameters are very much the same after all: stamina, precision, etc.
It'd be kind of surreal to watch your own stuff while thinking "I'm so great".
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Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
Wasn't that the same band that titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
in all honesty, what's wrong with that title? I always felt like it fit the album aesthetic nicely (and tbh if I had to name KNY after a song that would probably be it)
It's incredibly pedestrian. The magic about Deftones was always avoiding just that. Taking a simple concept and obscuring it in shadows and layers. Not hitting you over the head with whatever the idea is. And not using trite, commonplace phrases. The title "Romantic Dreams" is not up to that standard in any way.
Hey, in my opinion, I feel chino is sometime trying too hard to be obscure, vague, artsy fartsy... with titles that have nothing to do with anything. A straight to the face message is not a bad thing at all, if it is well written, smart and thought provoking.
But I don't really care, I'm more fan of the music and melodies than his lyrics/song titles. At least they are never cringy. Romantic Dreams is a fine song track. If I had to complain about a song track, it'd be U,U,D,D.... thats lame.
I guess Chino is all about being in the moment when it comes to live shows and not wanting to look back on them, which is a shame, because there are so many out there for them to watch. The part where he talked about feeling weird about singing or screaming in his studio as he can hear his wife and kids upstairs, maybe it's a self confidence issue?
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
Some of my friends always comment on Chino's vocals live, it's like an easy go to negative reaction if people don't like them, it annoys me, but I've always said Deftones are not for everybody, some people just don't get it
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
Some of my friends always comment on Chino's vocals live, it's like an easy go to negative reaction if people don't like them, it annoys me, but I've always said Deftones are not for everybody, some people just don't get it
Of course. I love them to death, but I'm not completely blind (or should I say deaf) to this issue. I guess I'm more of a fan of their older shows and their albums. I will still go see them live, but I usually try to concentrate on the energy and the music, over the vocals. But it's completely understandable for most people to be turned off by Chino's live vocals.
I just like how Chino and the rest of the guys come across as super down to earth these days. Not that they were ever super rockstars or anything but these chat style interviews are cool. Makes you feel part of it all.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
I wonder why he rarely sounds good live. That Team Sleep live album/DVD recording was awesome, he sounded great, almost as good as he did on the studio album. Also, I guess his age affected his voice, take a look at performances from the early 2000s, he sounded great. Remember that he had throat issues in the past and almost lost his voice. Maybe he never fully recovered from that.
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 10, 2020, 10:17 AM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 09, 2020, 10:13 PM
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 09, 2020, 09:30 PM
Wasn't that the same band that titled a song "Romantic Dreams."
in all honesty, what's wrong with that title? I always felt like it fit the album aesthetic nicely (and tbh if I had to name KNY after a song that would probably be it)
It's incredibly pedestrian. The magic about Deftones was always avoiding just that. Taking a simple concept and obscuring it in shadows and layers. Not hitting you over the head with whatever the idea is. And not using trite, commonplace phrases. The title "Romantic Dreams" is not up to that standard in any way.
You're being nitpicky in your criticism and also a bit inconsistent. Sure, Chino has come up with off-kilter, unique song titles that aren't always obvious, but not every single one is. Old titles like Bored and 7 Words are pretty commonplace. Bored, in particular, sounds like a boilerplate angsty 90's Gen-X song name. Other titles like My Own Summer (Shove It), Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away) and Headup are great but it doesn't exactly take a lot to figure out what they mean. Romantic Dreams, on the other hand, is maybe less clear-cut than you are making it out to be. Is it the most unique song title Chino has ever come up with? No, but Romantic Dreams could still mean a lot of different things. It could be romantic dreams about a person you love, it could be romantic dreams about life, it could have been a romantic dream about Chi waking up and returning to the band for all we know.
BTW, Romantic Dreams has never been one of my favorite Deftones songs. I always thought the song had some shifts in tone that were a little too drastic, from the melodramatic verses to a joyful, poppy chorus, but it has actually kind of grown on me recently. Maybe it's the shift I've had from 26 to 34 in those eight years since Koi dropped, so I appreciate it more.
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
I wonder why he rarely sounds good live. That Team Sleep live album/DVD recording was awesome, he sounded great, almost as good as he did on the studio album. Also, I guess his age affected his voice, take a look at performances from the early 2000s, he sounded great. Remember that he had throat issues in the past and almost lost his voice. Maybe he never fully recovered from that.
Yeah, he sounds amazing on that Team Sleep live recording. I think all that screaming obviously impacted immensely and the throat problem has no doubt had a lasting affect.
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Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 10, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
I wonder why he rarely sounds good live. That Team Sleep live album/DVD recording was awesome, he sounded great, almost as good as he did on the studio album. Also, I guess his age affected his voice, take a look at performances from the early 2000s, he sounded great. Remember that he had throat issues in the past and almost lost his voice. Maybe he never fully recovered from that.
Yeah, he sounds amazing on that Team Sleep live recording. I think all that screaming obviously impacted immensely and the throat problem has no doubt had a lasting affect.
100% it will have an impact, all the years of screaming, night after night on tour will have a long lasting effect, that coupled with the throat issues he had.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 10, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
I wonder why he rarely sounds good live. That Team Sleep live album/DVD recording was awesome, he sounded great, almost as good as he did on the studio album. Also, I guess his age affected his voice, take a look at performances from the early 2000s, he sounded great. Remember that he had throat issues in the past and almost lost his voice. Maybe he never fully recovered from that.
He fucked up his vocal cords late in the white pony tour and he was never the same after, but he had good moments after where he sounded quite good, like in 2003 and 2010. But It will never be as good as pre-2000. Now I guess it's mostly age, but it's not a great excuse. If you take care of your voice and have vocal coaches, its very avoidable.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 10, 2020, 04:24 PM
BTW, Romantic Dreams has never been one of my favorite Deftones songs. I always thought the song had some shifts in tone that were a little too drastic, from the melodramatic verses to a joyful, poppy chorus, but it has actually kind of grown on me recently. Maybe it's the shift I've had from 26 to 34 in those eight years since Koi dropped, so I appreciate it more.
That's one of the thing I'm not a huge fan of in their last 2 albums, very very abrupt switch in the mood or tempo. Geometric Headdress has this "issue" too... I guess it's their way to experiment with different song structure/sound. but it doesn't work very well for me.
The shifts in Geo always worked better for me, but that's probably just because I really like the weirdness of Geo.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 10, 2020, 04:42 PM
The shifts in Geo always worked better for me, but that's probably just because I really like the weirdness of Geo.
Well it has one of my favorite vocal melodies of chino ever. So I like the song still. I'd would have PERSONALLY prefer it to be more focus. but that's just preference.
"As her words draw you in
Our faith reconnects
And our hearts, they collapse
From the words we intake
And now relate like I relate
'Til your faith reconnects"
So many fragile minds in here, calling for censorship of opinions that stray from "OMG DEFTONES ARE THE BEST!" Ya'll sound ridiculous and have lost all credibility.
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 10, 2020, 04:55 PM
So many fragile minds in here, calling for censorship of opinions that stray from "OMG DEFTONES ARE THE BEST!" Ya'll sound ridiculous and have lost all credibility.
I always complain about deftones stuff here and no one wanted to censor me or call me out. I think it might have been the way you presented your opinion, but I don't know.
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 10, 2020, 04:55 PM
So many fragile minds in here, calling for censorship of opinions that stray from "OMG DEFTONES ARE THE BEST!" Ya'll sound ridiculous and have lost all credibility.
Really solid response to what I wrote, man!
If you really paid attention this board, you would see see that there is constant Deftones criticism. I literally JUST criticized the tonal shifts in Romantic Dreams, people are LITERALLY criticizing Chino's live performances on THIS PAGE of the thread, buflen is criticizing Geo, etc. Your real problem is your opinions are just inconsistent and easy to pick apart.
Are you guys really discussing song titles? If its a good song, they can name it 'Bang my ass' for all I care.
About the whole 'Chino is not good live' thing, its old news. They know it, we know it, everybody else knows it. I went to two shows, he was amazing in one, and good in the other. You dont have to be a perfect singer to have an impactful career. Theres a LOT of "bad" (or not perfect, live) singers out there with decades of work who influenced generations. Still do. Chino is one. You gotta see the artist for the whole package. Criativity, range, will to keep improving and evolving artistically, etc. He has it all. Otherwise he wouldnt be praised like he is.
Would it be nicer if he was more consistent live? (thats what I think its his problem on shows: inconsistency) Sure.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 10, 2020, 05:16 PM
Are you guys really discussing song titles? If its a good song, they can name it 'Bang my ass' for all I care.
About the whole 'Chino is not good live' thing, its old news. They know it, we know it, everybody else knows it. I went to two shows, he was amazing in one, and good in the other. You dont have to be a perfect singer to have an impactful career. Theres a LOT of "bad" (or not perfect, live) singers out there with decades of work who influenced generations. Still do. Chino is one. You gotta see the artist for the whole package. Criativity, range, will to keep improving and evolving artistically, etc. He has it all. Otherwise he wouldnt be praised like he is.
Would it be nicer if he was more consistent live? (thats what I think its his problem on shows: inconsistency) Sure.
We were just talking about Chino not watching his live performance so I brought it up. I know it is old news. but it still to this day kinda affect my adoration for this band.
The live performances are a numbers game. When you've been playing music live for over 25 years, yeah, not every performance is gonna be pitch perfect. He's still pretty consistent for someone who has been doing it for as long as he has, IMO. I was just watching a live video of Kimdracula and Battle-Axe from 2018 that he sounds fucking great in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raBYjn1pRbA
I feel like Chino always does well live when he isn't moving around as much or jumping around trying to hype the crowd up. If he just stands and sings, he'll probably be consistent live. Id rather him engage and move with the crowd though instead of just standing in one spot the entire time.
Haven't had Internet access much until recently. Have I missed anything important? Sounds like a new song is coming out next week though???
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 10, 2020, 05:42 PM
Haven't had Internet access much until recently. Have I missed anything important? Sounds like a new song is coming out next week though???
New song and video confirmed for next Friday.
And we're just two weeks away now. It's about to get crazy.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 10, 2020, 05:16 PM
Are you guys really discussing song titles? If its a good song, they can name it 'Bang my ass' for all I care.
About the whole 'Chino is not good live' thing, its old news. They know it, we know it, everybody else knows it. I went to two shows, he was amazing in one, and good in the other. You dont have to be a perfect singer to have an impactful career. Theres a LOT of "bad" (or not perfect, live) singers out there with decades of work who influenced generations. Still do. Chino is one. You gotta see the artist for the whole package. Criativity, range, will to keep improving and evolving artistically, etc. He has it all. Otherwise he wouldnt be praised like he is.
Would it be nicer if he was more consistent live? (thats what I think its his problem on shows: inconsistency) Sure.
We were just talking about Chino not watching his live performance so I brought it up. I know it is old news. but it still to this day kinda affect my adoration for this band.
Tbh, I think it affects most of us. I just got over it. Hes human, after all. AND, on top of that, screaming for this many years (the good ol' excuse, right?) and not caring what you gonna sound like live, has this effect. Im fine with it nowdays.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
i read a few articles that he's got some of the best vocal range out there (octaves), so when he's on, he's really on. but maybe the vocal damage from 2001 caused him inconsistency
ranked 11th here, out of all singers, not just rock (maybe partly cause his scream is pretty much the best ever)
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/wtf/mike_patton_is_the_greatest_singer_of_all_time_based_on_vocal_range_not_axl_rose_experts_insist.html
Damn shit goes south so quickly round here LMFAO ;D
I honestly couldn't care less what they name anything, as long as the music is there. Ohms isn't a bad title but when I first heard rumor that was what it was called I was like "nah it can't be" then when it was announced I shrugged and was like "okay cool". Can't wait to hear the music.
On the topic of live performances, someone mentioned the Team Sleep sessions... omg yes, Chino never sounded better imo. His best recorded performance of his career? Prove me wrong Ves!
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 10, 2020, 05:52 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
i read a few articles that he's got some of the best vocal range out there (octaves), so when he's on, he's really on. but maybe the vocal damage from 2001 caused him inconsistency
ranked 11th here, out of all singers, not just rock (maybe partly cause his scream is pretty much the best ever)
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/wtf/mike_patton_is_the_greatest_singer_of_all_time_based_on_vocal_range_not_axl_rose_experts_insist.html
I think we're all going slightly off topic in this thread but this is a great post - extremely interesting read.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 10, 2020, 06:14 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 10, 2020, 05:52 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Well. I'm pretty sure chino is aware he is not the best live singer.
For the energy and passion, he is rarely beaten, but for just the vocal abilities ... I mean, when I watch a show where his voice doesn't crack every 10 seconds, I consider it a good show for him. The bar is ridiculously LOW. When you are there, it doesn't matter much because of the enegy, but watching it on youtube.... :o
I have no idea why he decides to sing stuff completely out of his range on albums now. He doesn't seem to have as much trouble doing older songs, well except Digital Bath.
i read a few articles that he's got some of the best vocal range out there (octaves), so when he's on, he's really on. but maybe the vocal damage from 2001 caused him inconsistency
ranked 11th here, out of all singers, not just rock (maybe partly cause his scream is pretty much the best ever)
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/wtf/mike_patton_is_the_greatest_singer_of_all_time_based_on_vocal_range_not_axl_rose_experts_insist.html
I think we're all going slightly off topic in this thread but this is a great post - extremely interesting read.
there's not much to talk about on Ohms beside useless prediction, or not tolerated leak talks, so I'm fine with off topic discussions.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 10, 2020, 06:12 PM
On the topic of live performances, someone mentioned the Team Sleep sessions... omg yes, Chino never sounded better imo. His best recorded performance of his career? Prove me wrong Ves!
Oh, I really love that album. The entire band kills it and Gil Sharone's drumming on it is just beautiful.
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 10, 2020, 05:33 PM
I feel like Chino always does well live when he isn't moving around as much or jumping around trying to hype the crowd up. If he just stands and sings, he'll probably be consistent live. Id rather him engage and move with the crowd though instead of just standing in one spot the entire time.
I think you nailed it. Especially now they are all 50 or close to 50 years old. Minus Sergio, I guess...
Quote from: Far away on Sep 10, 2020, 06:22 PM
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 10, 2020, 05:33 PM
I feel like Chino always does well live when he isn't moving around as much or jumping around trying to hype the crowd up. If he just stands and sings, he'll probably be consistent live. Id rather him engage and move with the crowd though instead of just standing in one spot the entire time.
I think you nailed it. Especially now they are all 50 or close to 50 years old. Minus Sergio, I guess...
I had to google, but he's the same age.
All the band have an element of sloppiness live. It doesn't really bother me generally. I saw them three times on Gore and they were brilliant every time. The show at Meltdown Festival was incredible. A genuinely special night and they were ON it.
Chino could probably do with working alongside someone like Melissa Cross or whoever in order to find a way to control and preserve his voice for the next decade or so. Late 40s and into your 50s, you have to find a way to keep going - see Tool not even playing certain songs now because of Maynard's aging voice.
I need this album btw. So damn close.
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
Congratulations! Enjoy the free time while you can, lol...
Regarding Chino's vocals live, I feel like its all about his stamina and how him and the band are usually much less focused in delivering a pitch perfect performance than they are in just having fun onstage. A testament to that is how notoriously bad he sounded in 2009, when he was in pretty bad shape, compared to 2010, just an year after, where he was in much better shape (and just healthier overall) and sounded killer live. Then there's Team Sleep's 2014 concert, where he wasn't in that good shape but wasn't wasting stamina by jumping and running around on stage, and he delivered what might have been his best (or at least most consistent) live performance ever.
I don't blame the band at all for this though. Having fun IS the most important thing still, especially when you're this late into your carrer. I imagine after so many years seeing each other almost every day to repeat the same process night after night might grow tiring if you're not having fun.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
congrats, that is great. my daughter is 5 & 1/2, still haven't introduced her to any of my music yet. i'm not pushy with my music with people. i used to be a little bit in teens and early 20s, had lots of friends and gfs become fans of deftones through me
make your kid some cool Mario levels when they get old enough . i made a few for my kid'o, she loved it
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 10, 2020, 06:59 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
congrats, that is great. my daughter is 5 & 1/2, still haven't introduced her to any of my music yet. i'm not pushy with my music with people. i used to be a little bit in teens and early 20s, had lots of friends and gfs become fans of deftones through me
make her some cool Mario levels when she gets old enough
My daughter is the same age. She doesn't normally have to listen to what I listen to but I played Ohms a couple times over YouTube on the TV and last night it popped up in the car and I heard her singing it. She was singing "time won't change this". I must say, I was a proud dad hearing that 8)
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
Yea congrats! Sleep while you can lol!
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 10, 2020, 07:03 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 10, 2020, 06:59 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
congrats, that is great. my daughter is 5 & 1/2, still haven't introduced her to any of my music yet. i'm not pushy with my music with people. i used to be a little bit in teens and early 20s, had lots of friends and gfs become fans of deftones through me
make her some cool Mario levels when she gets old enough
My daughter is the same age. She doesn't normally have to listen to what I listen to but I played Ohms a couple times over YouTube on the TV and last night it popped up in the car and I heard her singing it. She was singing "time won't change this". I must say, I was a proud dad hearing that 8)
that's awesome
Anyone else agree that 2009-2010 was a good year for Chino's live performances? He looked great and sounded great to me. I saw some shows where he was spot on. There's an elusive video of WGTB from 2009 that I'm dying to see/hear. While searching thru videos I came across this one I never saw before, he sounded pretty good here.
[edit: nvm I have seen it, I remember the "London, England" part during Rocket Skates, cracks me up! ;D]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrTkG6XGkPM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 10, 2020, 06:59 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
congrats, that is great. my daughter is 5 & 1/2, still haven't introduced her to any of my music yet. i'm not pushy with my music with people. i used to be a little bit in teens and early 20s, had lots of friends and gfs become fans of deftones through me
make your kid some cool Mario levels when they get old enough . i made a few for my kid'o, she loved it
Thanks! I saw you edited this twice. It's a boys. It'll take a while before he'll play some of my mario levels :P
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/10/news/chino-moreno-says-deftones-began-writing-ohms-as-a-trio-i-wanted-to-experiment-with-us-three-in-a-room-like-we-were-in-stephs-garage-when-we-were-kids/ (https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/10/news/chino-moreno-says-deftones-began-writing-ohms-as-a-trio-i-wanted-to-experiment-with-us-three-in-a-room-like-we-were-in-stephs-garage-when-we-were-kids/)
damn I'm a shitty listener lol, I completely missed the part where he talked about writing Ohms with just the three of them (Chino, Abe and Steph). "get back to basics". That's interesting...
Quote from: Draken on Sep 10, 2020, 07:56 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/10/news/chino-moreno-says-deftones-began-writing-ohms-as-a-trio-i-wanted-to-experiment-with-us-three-in-a-room-like-we-were-in-stephs-garage-when-we-were-kids/ (https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/10/news/chino-moreno-says-deftones-began-writing-ohms-as-a-trio-i-wanted-to-experiment-with-us-three-in-a-room-like-we-were-in-stephs-garage-when-we-were-kids/)
damn I'm a shitty listener lol, I completely missed the part where he talked about writing Ohms with just the three of them (Chino, Abe and Steph). "get back to basics". That's interesting...
I'd argue its kinda shitty for frank and sergio, but I guess it was his way to gives more place and space to Stephen? He even mentioned not bringing his guitar.
It was only the start of the process that it was just the three of them.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 10, 2020, 07:22 PM
Anyone else agree that 2009-2010 was a good year for Chino's live performances? He looked great and sounded great to me. I saw some shows where he was spot on. There's an elusive video of WGTB from 2009 that I'm dying to see/hear. While searching thru videos I came across this one I never saw before, he sounded pretty good here.
[edit: nvm I have seen it, I remember the "London, England" part during Rocket Skates, cracks me up! ;D]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrTkG6XGkPM
I think 2009 was an exceptional year for Chino. The best performance of WGTB I've heard occurred during the Slipknot tour. Sadly the video is long gone, Chino screamed the entire thing and sounded like he was hungry for more. It was unreal!
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 10, 2020, 08:11 PM
It was only the start of the process that it was just the three of them.
Yeah, and as he makes clear, they did that so Stephen, in particular, could musically reconnect after Gore. Seems like doing that paid off big time for Ohms.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 10, 2020, 08:33 PM
I think 2009 was an exceptional year for Chino. The best performance of WGTB I've heard occurred during the Slipknot tour. Sadly the video is long gone, Chino screamed the entire thing and sounded like he was hungry for more. It was unreal!
Ugh, I wanna hear it so bad! Please let me know if you ever find it again...
Looked for it for years, I wouldn't hold my breath to be honest. :(
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
my youngest is 24. you dont sleep the same ever again
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 10, 2020, 08:57 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
my youngest is 24. you dont sleep the same ever again
that's... old.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 09:14 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 10, 2020, 08:57 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
My first child is due to October 13. I want the album ASAP, but I'm still enjoying the moment I still can sleep normally and have a life for now :)
my youngest is 24. you dont sleep the same ever again
that's... old.
Not me. I'm getting younger and better
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 10, 2020, 06:19 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 10, 2020, 06:12 PM
On the topic of live performances, someone mentioned the Team Sleep sessions... omg yes, Chino never sounded better imo. His best recorded performance of his career? Prove me wrong Ves!
Oh, I really love that album. The entire band kills it and Gil Sharone's drumming on it is just beautiful.
My opinion - maybe it's a hot take - is there's no way his voice isn't doctored on that record. They did some auto tuning or something. (I love the album ... just my thoughts on that. It sounds too perfect. )
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 10, 2020, 08:39 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 10, 2020, 08:11 PM
It was only the start of the process that it was just the three of them.
Yeah, and as he makes clear, they did that so Stephen, in particular, could musically reconnect after Gore. Seems like doing that paid off big time for Ohms.
I think Chino not toting his guitar was a symbolic and helpful gesture.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 10, 2020, 10:42 PM
My opinion - maybe it's a hot take - is there's no way his voice isn't doctored on that record. They did some auto tuning or something. (I love the album ... just my thoughts on that. It sounds too perfect. )
confirmed but not completely: here's clips from that concert from people that attended. you can hear him going out of tune in some clips (more clearly in Death by Plane) but he still sounds pretty much pitch perfect in some others (see Your Skull is Red)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBuvCoX1qQ
Two more weeks!
Seems we drifted from the new album to Chino's vocals. Continue that discussion in the bullshit thread please.
Desertscoldmoon covering Ohms:
https://youtu.be/_TsLWHYEYYc
Pretty cool comeback.
Looking at bits and pieces of interviews that were done regarding the title track and this caught my attention:
QuoteAs the last song on the record, it's kind of sung in retrospect – it's looking back not just at the batch of songs that come before it, but our lives and our surroundings. The verses are reflecting, but the chorus kind of says, 'Yes this, but this' – it's saying that time will change with the decisions we make. It's a question and an answer.
This is kind of what I was hoping for; the album being yet unreleased and having not paid any attention to the leaks I can only try to project, but Ohms gave me that feeling of an epilogue rather than a closer. Hearing that the song's placement serves more as a way of looking back than a final conclusion sorts of match with what I wanted to hear.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 11, 2020, 02:19 PM
Looking at bits and pieces of interviews that were done regarding the title track and this caught my attention:
QuoteAs the last song on the record, it's kind of sung in retrospect – it's looking back not just at the batch of songs that come before it, but our lives and our surroundings. The verses are reflecting, but the chorus kind of says, 'Yes this, but this' – it's saying that time will change with the decisions we make. It's a question and an answer.
This is kind of what I was hoping for; the album being yet unreleased and having not paid any attention to the leaks I can only try to project, but Ohms gave me that feeling of an epilogue rather than a closer. Hearing that the song's placement serves more as a way of looking back than a final conclusion sorts of match with what I wanted to hear.
Completely agree with what you're saying. Naturally, it's hard to know without having listened to the rest of the album but I'm inclined to think that the title tracks will kind of just round things off.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 10, 2020, 06:19 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 10, 2020, 06:12 PM
On the topic of live performances, someone mentioned the Team Sleep sessions... omg yes, Chino never sounded better imo. His best recorded performance of his career? Prove me wrong Ves!
Oh, I really love that album. The entire band kills it and Gil Sharone's drumming on it is just beautiful.
It's by far my favorite album with Chino on it.
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 11, 2020, 12:00 AM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 10, 2020, 10:42 PM
My opinion - maybe it's a hot take - is there's no way his voice isn't doctored on that record. They did some auto tuning or something. (I love the album ... just my thoughts on that. It sounds too perfect. )
confirmed but not completely: here's clips from that concert from people that attended. you can hear him going out of tune in some clips (more clearly in Death by Plane) but he still sounds pretty much pitch perfect in some others (see Your Skull is Red)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBuvCoX1qQ
i think he pulled it off. in the 2001 team sleep cactus club live show(i've had on cd since then) he hits all the notes, and sounds really good the whole way. and that was a year he struggled. he's gotten through plenty of deftones shows, and crosses without problems. just depends on the night. he had a great night then
and to tie it in with Ohms upcoming, we're gonna be waiting a while to see how they do with these new Ohms songs live. about a year at least. freakin lame. also i think Abe said in an interview that the next video was shot along with the Ohms video, so that should be good stuff, with that director.
I was lucky enough to go to the TS Woodstock show. It's probably my favorite concert experience ever, mostly because it was completely unlike any other concert I've ever been to.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 11, 2020, 04:37 PM
I was lucky enough to go to the TS Woodstock show. It's probably my favorite concert experience ever, mostly because it was completely unlike any other concert I've ever been to.
Oh man am very jealous! It really did feel like the most perfect way to experience them live. I saw them at the knitting factory in NY back in 2005 but wasn't anything close to the woodstock show.
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 11, 2020, 05:32 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 11, 2020, 04:37 PM
I was lucky enough to go to the TS Woodstock show. It's probably my favorite concert experience ever, mostly because it was completely unlike any other concert I've ever been to.
Oh man am very jealous! It really did feel like the most perfect way to experience them live. I saw them at the knitting factory in NY back in 2005 but wasn't anything close to the woodstock show.
Oh man I was at that Knitting Factory show as well. I don't remember much about it beyond the room being real small and them sounding slightly better than I expected
I was also at the TS Knitting Factory show. I was kinda high when I saw them that night, but it was good from what I remember.
Since we have a whole another week before Genesis, I gotta recomend a newer band I've really been digging lately called Greyhaven. Kind of a generic band name, but their singer will go between sounding like Chino, Keith Buckley and Daryl Palumbo, often in one song. It's pretty impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7nfzI22Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zv8Yx7q1iQ
Was just thinking, regarding the post earlier about hearing the "New Songs" live. It would be great if they did something similar to the "Live Trees" performance the band did for Diamond Eyes. Playing the Record in its entirety with virtually no crowd.
A guy can Wish right?!
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 12, 2020, 12:06 AM
Was just thinking, regarding the post earlier about hearing the “New Songs” live. It would be great if they did something similar to the “Live Trees” performance the band did for Diamond Eyes. Playing the Record in its entirety with virtually no crowd.
A guy can Wish right?!
that is an awesome idea. hope they do the whole album live like they did with diamond eyes
also i mentioned before, they could crank out another album fast if they wanted, with no shows coming anytime soon. i bet they could have it done and released by the end of next year. if they were so inclined of course
Abe did say he really wants to get back in the studio in the Kerrang article. I doubt it will be next year, but a two-year turnaround would be nice. I think the quick turnaround from DE to Koi was from them feeling so recharged after DE's success, so maybe Ohms will have a similar effect on them.
I'm ready to ignore next friday's single to actually be surprised by the first song. it'll be difficult.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 12, 2020, 02:58 AM
I'm ready to ignore next friday's single to actually be surprised by the first song. it'll be difficult.
I like this idea in theory however I know there's no way I'll be able to do it. 8 songs I haven't heard will still be way above average when the record is released
DEFTONES !!!
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 11, 2020, 10:18 PM
I was also at the TS Knitting Factory show. I was kinda high when I saw them that night, but it was good from what I remember.
Since we have a whole another week before Genesis, I gotta recomend a newer band I've really been digging lately called Greyhaven. Kind of a generic band name, but their singer will go between sounding like Chino, Keith Buckley and Daryl Palumbo, often in one song. It's pretty impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7nfzI22Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zv8Yx7q1iQ
This shit is killer. Around the time Gore was coming out, I was managing a Target in New Jersey and a cashier I had asked me to check his band out. I was hesitant but they're called Thank You Scientist. Legit stuff
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 12, 2020, 11:29 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 11, 2020, 10:18 PM
I was also at the TS Knitting Factory show. I was kinda high when I saw them that night, but it was good from what I remember.
Since we have a whole another week before Genesis, I gotta recomend a newer band I've really been digging lately called Greyhaven. Kind of a generic band name, but their singer will go between sounding like Chino, Keith Buckley and Daryl Palumbo, often in one song. It's pretty impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7nfzI22Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zv8Yx7q1iQ
This shit is killer. Around the time Gore was coming out, I was managing a Target in New Jersey and a cashier I had asked me to check his band out. I was hesitant but they're called Thank You Scientist. Legit stuff
I saw Thank You Scientist open up for Coheed And Cambria and Maps & Atlases a few years ago, and they were pretty great!
I WILL wait it out. Come friday, ill check outta here till the record comes and join the fun again. But im teally working on myself in a lot of ways right now and patience is one of those things i can get better at. This is the ultimate test
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 12, 2020, 01:42 PM
I WILL wait it out. Come friday, ill check outta here till the record comes and join the fun again. But im teally working on myself in a lot of ways right now and patience is one of those things i can get better at. This is the ultimate test
Good luck! It's something I'd like to do but don't think I have the will power but I have a lot on at the moment to keep me occupied so I may well succeed!
You got this. You get to hear it together as a piece for the first time PLUS dont underestimate how good it could feel just to do it. If i can do this, i feel like ill get over a lot more later
;) not gonna b easy. I teally have a gooooood feeling about this record and i get the strong feeling that this isnt the last record they will record. 8)
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 12, 2020, 04:37 PM
You got this. You get to hear it together as a piece for the first time PLUS dont underestimate how good it could feel just to do it. If i can do this, i feel like ill get over a lot more later
Of late, I've generally resisted listening to singles or at the very least kept it to a minimum because that over familiarity of a song(s) really does lessen the first listen through of an album for me. I couldn't not listen to Ohms (the song) though but have made a concerted effort not to listen toooo much.
Think I'm going to do the same and check out from here from the next single release until the album hits.
The song has grown on me significantly as of late... Probably like a 4.5, though still in the lower tier as far as their closers go.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 12, 2020, 05:15 PM
The song has grown on me significantly as of late... Probably like a 4.5, though still in the lower tier as far as their closers go.
I completely agree. It's a great track and I think it was a great choice as a single. I just don't like it being the album closer. Maybe I will feel differently once I hear the entire album as a whole. But I doubt it. I really hope we get one beautiful slow paced gem on this album. We'll see.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 12, 2020, 11:29 AM
This shit is killer. Around the time Gore was coming out, I was managing a Target in New Jersey and a cashier I had asked me to check his band out. I was hesitant but they're called Thank You Scientist. Legit stuff
I love Thank you Scientist, Maps of Non-Existent Places is a wonderful album.
You'll probably like it if you're into bands like Coheed and Cambria or The Mars Volta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QM0XP_h3c&list=PLqtrXRqCWZbRzalax8k4cKQIyolC3GLBi&index=11&t=0s
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 11, 2020, 10:18 PM
Since we have a whole another week before Genesis, I gotta recomend a newer band I've really been digging lately called Greyhaven. Kind of a generic band name, but their singer will go between sounding like Chino, Keith Buckley and Daryl Palumbo, often in one song. It's pretty impressive.
They sound pretty good, I'll have to check out more of their stuff.
I discovered this band really late but they're an exceptional 90's band, listen to their Gold and Silver albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CRLVmTnxdc
For the sake of not driving the mods crazy I'll continue this where it belongs over here:
https://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,8.msg858784.html#new (https://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,8.msg858784.html#new)
but I got a ton more to share if anyone is interested in music to tide you over before the release.
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 12, 2020, 11:29 AM
This shit is killer. Around the time Gore was coming out, I was managing a Target in New Jersey and a cashier I had asked me to check his band out. I was hesitant but they're called Thank You Scientist. Legit stuff
I love Thank you Scientist, Maps of Non-Existent Places is a wonderful album.
You'll probably like it if you're into bands like Coheed and Cambria or The Mars Volta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QM0XP_h3c&list=PLqtrXRqCWZbRzalax8k4cKQIyolC3GLBi&index=11&t=0s
Yeah I was surprised at how good they were. Usually when someone asks me to check on their art it's middling. He worked at this Target inbetween tours although a quick look at him says he has since quit the band and is now a music teacher
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 12, 2020, 05:41 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 12, 2020, 05:15 PM
The song has grown on me significantly as of late... Probably like a 4.5, though still in the lower tier as far as their closers go.
I completely agree. It's a great track and I think it was a great choice as a single. I just don't like it being the album closer. Maybe I will feel differently once I hear the entire album as a whole. But I doubt it. I really hope we get one beautiful slow paced gem on this album. We'll see.
It's grown on me as well. That intro riff really sticks in your head after a while. As far as their closers go, I listened to Moana yesterday and kept thinking Ohms missed something. But I think it's more about us missing something in the song... I'm convinced it'll all make sense in context. The sounds before the intro riff sound like they were coming from something interesting.
Yeah, at first I didn't understand how this song could make sense as a closer but the more the lyrics sink in the more I'm okay with it, it has a kind of a bittersweet inevitability to it.
I had this random dream that I had received a promo advance of Radiant City on vinyl and I was going to listen to it to drop my two cents on here. So weird. I guess I'm really excited about this record!
I can't believe we're less than 2 weeks from new music..
Honestly, I think it was maybe time they changed the sort of song they put last. Ohms doesn't feel like a Deftones closer and I like that. And as someone said on here the other week, it feels like a song that will force you to immediately play the album again.
They're teasing Genesis lyrics on their IG story!
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 12, 2020, 08:44 PM
They're teasing Genesis lyrics on their IG story!
You aren't supposed to know that :o
@Ves.... im surprised u dont get any promo stuff now for all your work and time.
It's cool, I like doing it. Besides, they could terminate DeftonesLive anytime. I have so much copyrighted material up there. And I leaked stuff in the past. I see it as a way to play fair.
Nice Terry Date interview:
https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/
Anyone remember the photo of Chino in studio with Incubus and Skrillex? I guess Mike Einziger was on live stream today and someone asked him about that song, he said it's coming out at some point. Here's what the guy who asked the question posted on Facebook.
QuoteYooo! Mike answered my question on his livestream. He said the Chino collab will see the light of day sometime. He said they'll definitely get back to it. Brandon, Chino, and Skrillex all have a verse then they sing together according to Mike.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 13, 2020, 01:17 AM
Anyone remember the photo of Chino in studio with Incubus and Skrillex? I guess Mike Einziger was on live stream today and someone asked him about that song, he said it's coming out at some point. Here's what the guy who asked the question posted on Facebook.
QuoteYooo! Mike answered my question on his livestream. He said the Chino collab will see the light of day sometime. He said they'll definitely get back to it. Brandon, Chino, and Skrillex all have a verse then they sing together according to Mike.
Hell yea!! I totally forgot about that. I remember being so pissed off it wasn't on the new Incubus album especially since they advertised it on Instagram.. https://youtu.be/vgax11NZUlU (https://youtu.be/vgax11NZUlU)
Nice to hear they're still gonna put it out.
Quote from: mono on Sep 13, 2020, 12:17 AM
Nice Terry Date interview:
https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/
Anyone that dislike the song ohms should read that interview lol.
Umm.. guys.. what if... there's alternate album art?
Frank Maddocks just posted 3 images to IG, I put them together in album format with white background... obviously it's not the complete image.. but this would look really cool, either as the album cover or as a t-shirt design.
Sergio also shared on of the 3 images on his IG story.
(https://i.imgur.com/w8fOZV8.jpg)
I guess it'd be wishful thinking to suppose a possible Limited Edition version? Gah that would be so amazing...
I think they're just teasing the next single
Quote from: Draken on Sep 10, 2020, 06:12 PM
Damn shit goes south so quickly round here LMFAO ;D
I honestly couldn't care less what they name anything, as long as the music is there. Ohms isn't a bad title but when I first heard rumor that was what it was called I was like "nah it can't be" then when it was announced I shrugged and was like "okay cool". Can't wait to hear the music.
On the topic of live performances, someone mentioned the Team Sleep sessions... omg yes, Chino never sounded better imo. His best recorded performance of his career? Prove me wrong Ves!
Answered you in the bullshit thread
Quote from: buflen on Sep 13, 2020, 02:01 AM
Quote from: mono on Sep 13, 2020, 12:17 AM
Nice Terry Date interview:
https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/
Anyone that dislike the song ohms should read that interview lol.
Great interview! Is it just me or does it seem like he didn't do much to hype the album up though? Maybe it's because of what he said. It takes him 10 years or whatever to like an album he has worked on. Also, I get this wasn't just about Ohms. But him repeating that there's some "good" songs on there has me worried 😬 Aren't they all good songs? Isn't the album awesome? C'mon Terry D!
You have to remember, he's heard that album probably thousands of times, it probably wears on you after a while.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 13, 2020, 03:49 AM
You have to remember, he's heard that album probably thousands of times, it probably wears on you after a while.
Fair enough. I guess it makes sense. I've spent an inordinate amount of time smoking meat and the same kind of meat day in and day out. By the time it's done, I want absolutely nothing to do with it, while those who are hungry devour it. Not saying it's that good. But it's like this album. Terry is me. Burnt out and tired of the process but proud of the work. The guests are the fans. Starving for a taste that eventually leads to the whole thing. Thanks for helping me shift focus
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Quote from: mono on Sep 13, 2020, 12:17 AM
Nice Terry Date interview:
https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/
Anyone that dislike the song ohms should read that interview lol.
Great interview! Is it just me or does it seem like he didn't do much to hype the album up though? Maybe it's because of what he said. It takes him 10 years or whatever to like an album he has worked on. Also, I get this wasn't just about Ohms. But him repeating that there's some "good" songs on there has me worried 😬 Aren't they all good songs? Isn't the album awesome? C'mon Terry D!
doesn't take you much to get worried... wow ???
Terry Date: "But there’s some really good songs on it."
Deftones fan: omg im worried the album might suck
facepalm
Quote from: buflen on Sep 13, 2020, 04:12 AM
Terry Date: "But there's some really good songs on it."
Deftones fan: omg im worried the album might suck
facepalm
While I did clearly overreact. You don't need to be an ass about it. See what Sharing Lungs did and my response for a reference on how to be decent on the internet
Yeah my bad, sorry. just read too many "I'm worried for x or y reasons" and some weird jumping to conclusions on this board.
I guess thats what you get from very avid and devoted fanbase.
The only opinion that matters is yours and as long as you have not heard the album, there is no reason to get worried or too excited.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 13, 2020, 04:32 AM
Yeah my bad, sorry. just read too many "I'm worried for x or y reasons" and some weird jumping to conclusions on this board.
I guess thats what you get from very avid and devoted fanbase.
The only opinion that matters is yours and as long as you have not heard the album, there is no reason to get worried or too excited.
It's all good. I was definitely being a bitch about it. Not debating that one bit. I just do really like the band like everyone else and have high expectations that I shouldn't have. But I'm glad we were able to push past that and not have it turn into an ugly thing like things usually end up when we're able to hide behind usernames. Now I'll stop with the mushy shit. Let's just look forward to this album cycle and not be too worried about how it may or may not end up. Everyone has opinions. We're all just excited
when I first heard the song I couldn't even find a hook, now I can't get it out of my head lol. This album is gonna blow my asshole out.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 13, 2020, 04:33 PM
when I first heard the song I couldn't even find a hook, now I can't get it out of my head lol. This album is gonna blow my asshole out.
Dude. Ouch
Is there any plan/appetite for a community album listening party?
I was just thinking yesterday that it would be cool if they did a release day/night listening party.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 13, 2020, 06:10 PM
I was just thinking yesterday that it would be cool if they did a release day/night listening party.
Well I'm up/down for that.
The vocal on the second chorus of Ohms is especially fucking ace. I love the pierced "Yeeeaaaah" leading into "Time won't change this"
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 13, 2020, 05:12 PM
Is there any plan/appetite for a community album listening party?
Don't know about Sharing Lungs listening party but one of my long time friends is coming over to my city on thursday 24th so come midnight we do a first listening of the album together. I don't overthink the upcoming release of Ohms or how i'm gonna enjoy this record, but i'm still definitely excited knowing that in less than two weeks i'm gonna come home from work so i can focus on the next Deftones album with my pal.
Hopefully this album doesn't divide us as much as Gore \_(ツ)_/
I really liked the songs on Gore the first few listens except phantom bride and Rubicon. Now i can barely listen even after a year long break from it. I didnt need a break bc i overlistened either... i wanted to see if magic happened and i got over the sound of it but idk if ill ever crave it again at all. LMIRL could have been special and maybe even a few others IMO but idk i guess its bc they mostly DIYed it? Producer wasn't present much from what i remember
Also, we have to remember to take what Chino says about an upcoming Deftones record with a grain of salt. Nothing against him, but just because he says it's really rad and everyone's getting along and it's some of the greatest work he thinks they've done in a while and he really likes it doesn't mean that will be the outcome. We all have different opinions also soSome people like the record some don't
This
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 13, 2020, 08:38 PM
I don't overthink the upcoming release of Ohms or how i'm gonna enjoy this record, but i'm still definitely excited knowing that in less than two weeks i'm gonna come home from work so i can focus on the next Deftones album with my pal.
Hopefully this album doesn't divide us as much as Gore \_(ツ)_/
So Genesis tease starting tomorrow?
I keep seeing Genesis being brought up here as the next pre-release single, but what actual proof of that do we have? With so many posts on the Ohms thread it's hard to keep track of all of it and sometimes I feel like people chose to believe what they sould like to believe based on any rumor. Not that I don't wish for another preview naturally, but I find it hard to believe anything's that's not been officially announced by the band and/or label.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 13, 2020, 09:57 PM
I keep seeing Genesis being brought up here as the next pre-release single, but what actual proof of that do we have? With so many posts on the Ohms thread it's hard to keep track of all of it and sometimes I feel like people chose to believe what they sould like to believe based on any rumor. Not that I don't wish for another preview naturally, but I find it hard to believe anything's that's not been officially announced by the band and/or label.
C-money revealed it on his live stream. He's friends with Stef. They also teased the lyrics to the song on their instagram story last night.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 13, 2020, 09:57 PM
I keep seeing Genesis being brought up here as the next pre-release single, but what actual proof of that do we have? With so many posts on the Ohms thread it's hard to keep track of all of it and sometimes I feel like people chose to believe what they sould like to believe based on any rumor. Not that I don't wish for another preview naturally, but I find it hard to believe anything's that's not been officially announced by the band and/or label.
And sharinglungs may or may not have heard Genesis and may or may not have identified the lyrics in an instagram post by the band
Genesis teaser tomorrow or Wednesday probably
There should be like a SharingLungs Discord server. lol
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 13, 2020, 10:44 PM
There should be like a SharingLungs Discord server. lol
I'll allow it
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 13, 2020, 06:29 PM
The vocal on the second chorus of Ohms is especially fucking ace. I love the pierced "Yeeeaaaah" leading into "Time won't change this"
Absolutely. And the way he sings the word through straight from his gut is awesome. It almost sounds slightly off key but it's absolutely perfect. 👌
He Sounds fucking great. 8) And like Terry said in that recent interview he likes the mistakes more than anything so Chino shouldn't be as polished as he has for the last 10 years imo
I was jamming out to ghosts yesterday and I fucking love how he sounds in that song not as far as the production but the style he sings in. Some 80s new wave shit for sure. I'm not asking for anything on this record other than for it to be a great Deftones record but if I did I guess I would like some of that style in a track for two....even like his version of IOTWCS. He's so different in those tracks to me but still him.It's funny how covers seem to bring out another element of chino I think
Oh, btw...I AM EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT FRANK DID TO THIS RECORD. I don't think I've ever been as excited and curious about what Frank is going to do than this time around
https://discord.gg/kNYbePf
discord server for fun? Maybe to set up a live stream listening party on Midnight on the 25th when the album releases? Join up folks.
Yes I'm definitely excited to hear what Frank does this time around. He adds so much to this band. And I know Terry will do a great job with him.. also can't wait to hear that snare pop again.
I thought it was really cool with Terry said about Abe in the interview.. Abe is such an underrated drummer. He's definitely one of the greats in my mind. Especially live ..
No doubt . He's also a very unique character in a way that how could you not like him no matter who you are? Like when they were talking about something along the lines of boasting or getting an ego and he said " don't smell your own farts." I was laughing out loud literally ;D Dude is hella funny
Joined
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 13, 2020, 11:45 PM
https://discord.gg/kNYbePf
discord server for fun? Maybe to set up a live stream listening party on Midnight on the 25th when the album releases? Join up folks.
I left because of leak talk, and another "ooh i dislike the guitar tone of ohms, im worried."
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 01:05 AM
I left because of leak talk, and another "ooh i dislike the guitar tone of ohms, im worried."
What do u mean, u left?
That interview with Terry also made me listen to digital bath on the way home from work and I probably haven't heard it in a long while, but while listening those drums sounded even extra crisp. That song is almost surreal if you turn it up on a great system and really really listen. It's "WET" sounding. Like velvety and/or wet. That break in the middle when the drums stop has always reminded me of the beginning of the classic "Doggystyle" album where it sounds like maybe Snoop is in a hot tub or bubble bath LMAO but no shit. The music video I remember was also dope as hell
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 01:29 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 01:05 AM
I left because of leak talk, and another "ooh i dislike the guitar tone of ohms, im worried."
What do u mean, u left?
discord server.
whats up
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:00 AM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 01:29 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 01:05 AM
I left because of leak talk, and another "ooh i dislike the guitar tone of ohms, im worried."
What do u mean, u left?
discord server.
It's nice to have somewhere to talk about the leaks. It's very difficult keeping all these early Impressions to myself lol.
But also it would be nice to have somewhere to chat with everybody, including those that don't want spoilers. Maybe we could set up multiple rooms?
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 01:05 AM
I left because of leak talk, and another "ooh i dislike the guitar tone of ohms, im worried."
What do u mean, u left?
discord server.
It's nice to have somewhere to talk about the leaks. It's very difficult keeping all these early Impressions to myself lol.
But also it would be nice to have somewhere to chat with everybody, including those that don't want spoilers. Maybe we could set up multiple rooms?
leak talk should be 100% in a different room
If there's a sharing lungs discord server I wouldn't mind being there, easier medium to discuss on than forums imo.
I suggest 3 rooms. One for Deftones general chat-music that is released publicly. One for leaks for those that want to talk about them or don't mind spoilers and then an off topic room to talk about life, other bands, etc.
Didn't their last few albums leak like a month in advance? Seems like they're keeping a tight lid on it this time.
Gore was about a week before?
Albums don't really tend to leak now. Gore leaked only from the guy who got the vinyl early. I would be surprised if this leaked more than two or three days beforehand.
Tons of albums leak early these days. New Manson was 10 days.
Fit for a king was 10 days as well. I think.
It'll happen within the next week.
Gore leaked about 2 days in advance with the shitty vinyl leak being about 5 or 6 days I'd say. I'd recommend everyone here definitely avoid listening to a vinyl leak if one pops up again, was not worth it, I gave up like 3 or so songs in thankfully.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 14, 2020, 12:02 PM
Tons of albums leak early these days. New Manson was 10 days.
Fit for a king was 10 days as well. I think.
It'll happen within the next week.
That's two albums. The majority of them don't leak that early. I would have been very surprised if Ohms had leaked by now.
Lots of albums don't leak. I don't see this appearing until two/three days before release, if at all.
two more hours
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 14, 2020, 12:02 PM
Tons of albums leak early these days. New Manson was 10 days.
Fit for a king was 10 days as well. I think.
It'll happen within the next week.
I'd say it will leak at least of the 25th.
I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:14 PM
I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?
Qobuz 24-bit 96 kHz:
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 14, 2020, 02:17 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:14 PM
I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?
Qobuz 24-bit 96 kHz:
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
"Sorry, Qobuz is not available in your country."
I guess I'll go with HDTracks?
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Quote from: imbrie on Sep 14, 2020, 02:17 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:14 PM
I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?
Qobuz 24-bit 96 kHz:
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a
"Sorry, Qobuz is not available in your country."
I guess I'll go with HDTracks?
Yeah or 7 Digital.
Someone mentioned I think in one of the other topics that they think this might be one of the softer records if not the softest record by what they've been hearing. But when Chino rated or discussed all the albums he mentioned that it has a lot of energy this time around and didn't rule out that it wasn't heavy he just said it's subjective. That interest me and I think with that being said and having Terry back on board and everybody Really getting along and being stoked about making records again, at least us hard-core fans and maybe the masses will love this record. Like I said before I have a great feeling about it and I won't eat my words. I've been digging a little for interviews and articles about what Chino has to say before an album drops and he just seems more confident and excited this time around..... I am toooooooooo
This album will 100% not be their softest record, not will it be soft.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 03:24 PM
Someone mentioned I think in one of the other topics that they think this might be one of the softer records if not the softest record by what they've been hearing. But when Chino rated or discussed all the albums he mentioned that it has a lot of energy this time around and didn't rule out that it wasn't heavy he just said it's subjective. That interest me and I think with that being said and having Terry back on board and everybody Really getting along and being stoked about making records again, at least us hard-core fans and maybe the masses will love this record. Like I said before I have a great feeling about it and I won't eat my words. I've been digging a little for interviews and articles about what Chino has to say before an album drops and he just seems more confident and excited this time around..... I am toooooooooo
Yeah that was me. I've since humbly been put in my place. Carry on sir!
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 14, 2020, 03:39 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 03:24 PM
Someone mentioned I think in one of the other topics that they think this might be one of the softer records if not the softest record by what they've been hearing. But when Chino rated or discussed all the albums he mentioned that it has a lot of energy this time around and didn't rule out that it wasn't heavy he just said it's subjective. That interest me and I think with that being said and having Terry back on board and everybody Really getting along and being stoked about making records again, at least us hard-core fans and maybe the masses will love this record. Like I said before I have a great feeling about it and I won't eat my words. I've been digging a little for interviews and articles about what Chino has to say before an album drops and he just seems more confident and excited this time around..... I am toooooooooo
Yeah that was me. I've since humbly been put in my place. Carry on sir!
;) All good bud. Just wanted to stoke the fire a little around here. This couldnt happen at a better time! Summer's about over here in eastern NC USA and with the pandemic and the civil unrest and the looming presidential choice coming up where we pick the better of two evils, I/we all have had a strange year and we need some new Deftones! And its really looking like we wont be dissapointed. I pray its a banger and has those legs their earlier stuff has. Something we all still talk about proudly 10-20 yrs from now.
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Word! Less than 2 weeks guys.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Overall they are generally balanced. But S/T for example skews heavy. DE skews heavy. KNY is most balanced to me. Gore skews fairly light although not like, soft soft. My hope is that Ohms skews heavy. Just a tad is fine. Doesn't have to be relentless.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around
I would love a record that I play right through beginning to end every time I listen to it. Most of their records are like that for me but the last three for me have gems on them but a lot of tracks I don't even listen to. I imagine some of us feel that way
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around
I think having Terry back will help take care of that
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around
I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped 8)
Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around
I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped 8)
Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.
Me too
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around
I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped 8)
Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.
There are people considering Gore an impressive album 8)
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 14, 2020, 07:43 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around
I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped 8)
Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.
There are people considering Gore an impressive album 8)
According to Metacritic, it's their second highest rated album after KNY. In fact, their three highest rated albums according to Metacritic are their last three releases. Everyone put your own personal opinions on these albums relative to the rest of their discography aside for a moment, lets all just appreciate how impressive that is for a band as old as Deftones.
In any case, Gore impressed a lot of people out there. It's not popular among longer time Deftones fans because it's so different compared to the rest of their work, but believe it or not I've spoken to lots of people who love the album, or only know that album from Deftones, or told me it was the album that got them into Deftones, etc. This is mostly coming from the younger Millennial and older Gen Z "pretentious music fan" crowd. So keep in mind, Gore wasn't universally reviled, even though it may seem this way in our own personal circles.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Sep 14, 2020, 09:15 PM
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 14, 2020, 07:43 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.
Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around
I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped 8)
Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.
There are people considering Gore an impressive album 8)
According to Metacritic, it's their second highest rated album after KNY. In fact, their three highest rated albums according to Metacritic are their last three releases. Everyone put your own personal opinions on these albums relative to the rest of their discography aside for a moment, lets all just appreciate how impressive that is for a band as old as Deftones.
In any case, Gore impressed a lot of people out there. It's not popular among longer time Deftones fans because it's so different compared to the rest of their work, but believe it or not I've spoken to lots of people who love the album, or only know that album from Deftones, or told me it was the album that got them into Deftones, etc. This is mostly coming from the younger Millennial and older Gen Z "pretentious music fan" crowd. So keep in mind, Gore wasn't universally reviled, even though it may seem this way in our own personal circles.
There are a few reasons to not place a lot of weight into Metacritic scores of the albums: 1.) their scores are weighted averages with more weight given to certain reviewers, so it's not a true average score, 2.) Deftones, in outlasting their peers and maintaining credibility, have achieved far more respect from the critic community for a variety reasons beyond the output of their music, which in turn shapes the reception of their albums by critics (see also Mogwai, Twilight Singers, etc.), and 3.) far more reviews exist today thanks to the internet than during their earlier era, which again create an apples/oranges scenario that precludes a fair comparison of Metacritic scores, especially between works spread across multiple decades. It's intellectually dishonest to say the scores can be compared in any raw way from Metacritic without adjusting and normalizing the data to account for these factors. And beyond all of this the fact that Gore is an "81" compared to "72" for White Pony should tell you all you need regarding the reliability of these scores and how they relate to the artistic value of the underlying work.
yeah popular opinion stinks I don't listen to it.
In any event, Deftones have released an Ohms photo filter lol. #OhmsEyes
Metacritic isn't exhaustive either. The WP score is missing the original five star Kerrang review for example.
Yeah, it's tough to get a good read from those review aggregate sites. But most people I know that like Deftones really dig Gore (and SNW for that matter). It wasn't until I started coming here and other music forums that I had any idea people didn't dig those as much.
two more hours
two more eyes
"And on the Friday, Deftones did release Genesis. And they saw that it was good."
"And God said: let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the OG Kush, and we thus smoked it."
"And the Lord said to Stephen, "The earth you stand on is holy ground. It's also flat, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.""
Can Genesis do anything other than disappoint me? The hype is so high. Can it be that good? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? :P
No song is that great if you hype it up too much beforehand. So don't do so.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 14, 2020, 11:31 PM
No song is that great if you hype it up too much beforehand. So don't do so.
Fair enough. I don't honestly have many expectations. I mean. What should I expect? It's gonna be a new Deftones song. I'll see how it sounds Friday. For all of you heathens who heard the song early. Lucky you!
Not lucky IMO. Im older now and been rollin w this band for 22 yrs waiting for the next one since then. Listened to leaks every time. Its this time that i truly feel good about the wait. U should to. If not, all good then 8)
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 14, 2020, 11:37 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 14, 2020, 11:31 PM
No song is that great if you hype it up too much beforehand. So don't do so.
Fair enough. I don't honestly have many expectations. I mean. What should I expect? It's gonna be a new Deftones song. I'll see how it sounds Friday. For all of you heathens who heard the song early. Lucky you!
you should feel lucky to not have heard it in terrible quality.
I was feeling a lil bit mad cuz i listened to those leaks, but the last two days ive started to play genesis over and over, and everytime makes more excited for friday. I know it' ll sound brutal and huge.
I just caved and listened to Urantia and the quality is so bad that I instantly regret it. I can wait 10 days
Guys. No leak talk. Some people actually are not listening to them on purpose.
yeah, forgot about it. sorry.
Quote from: I_Know_ok on Sep 15, 2020, 06:59 AM
Headless is one of the most beautiful/ heavy songs they have ever written...Ohms is just the epilogue
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I have no patience. I just want this now.
10 more days to release. Latest we'll hear it in in Europe and US is 9 days when it releases in New Zealand/Aus.
Sharing Lungs mods be like:
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I posted about this yesterday but in case ya'll missed this they have an IG photo filter and you can post your picture along with @deftones and #ohmseyes for a chance to be included in their IG story. If you're signed up with your email then you should've received an email about it. Has anyone done it?
https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/09/15/deftones-have-their-own-instagram-filter-now/ (https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/09/15/deftones-have-their-own-instagram-filter-now/)
Ok, so 9/18 is still on or not...? It's quite late. This silence is killing me.
bruh, this Deftones we're talking about, they're gonna creep up like ninjas with that shit.
Got mail from the guys, with a QR code redirecting to www.deftones.com/reborn ...
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 15, 2020, 06:30 PM
Ok, so 9/18 is still on or not...? It's quite late. This silence is killing me.
Yes. Both Chino and Abe did interviews where they said another video is coming and it's confirmed by by AHA which also had the date for Ohms. Be patient, it's only two nights away.
:o now they're really fuckin with us, it says Genesis Deftones in the tab and then says two other songs: Error and This Link Is Dead!
Quote from: mono on Sep 15, 2020, 06:33 PM
Got mail from the guys, with a QR code redirecting to www.deftones.com/reborn ...
Link at the bottom goes through to a Genesis trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=movwuk28QKQ
Boy, are we in for a treat. ;)
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Now that's a cool teaser...
Ha @ "click here if you think you've reached this page in error". Those crafty mofos...
Quote from: mono on Sep 15, 2020, 06:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=movwuk28QKQ
Cannot wait to hear this track!
Dun dundundun dundundun.... Dun dundundun....
Getting a rosemary vibe from this snippet
Teehee... Rosemary... Teehee..
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 15, 2020, 06:30 PM
Ok, so 9/18 is still on or not...? It's quite late. This silence is killing me.
Quote from: mono on Sep 15, 2020, 06:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=movwuk28QKQ
Wow that escalated quickly :D
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 15, 2020, 07:01 PM
Getting a rosemary vibe from this snippet
We're about to have ALL the vibes. All your vibes are belong to Deftones.
The synths and those guitar lines blend so well together. Love the sound.
Strong Post-metal vibe for me
So the definition of genesis is the origin of a formation of something. Could be after they wrote the song someone really felt that it maybe sums up their band, like it feels like it did in the beginning or some thing. Just a thought.c Ool name for a good Deftones cut though either way
Plot twist, it's actually about the Sega Genesis.
After Konami code and Risk it wouldn't surprise me.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Sep 15, 2020, 07:39 PM
Plot twist, it's actually about the Sega Genesis.
After Konami code and Risk it wouldn't surprise me.
Sounds killer. I miss that guitar tone right there. Frank is always on point. Hoping this really showcases Frank. Im hard now.
Same. I hope Frank is prominent all over this album. I wish the track listing hadn't been released yet because I'd LOVE for this (what I assume to be) intro part go on for 2-3 minutes). Might be way off here, but I feel like if you slap a lo-fi drum beat under this bit, you have a Team Sleep song.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 15, 2020, 07:36 PM
So the definition of genesis is the origin of a formation of something. Could be after they wrote the song someone really felt that it maybe sums up their band, like it feels like it did in the beginning or some thing. Just a thought.c Ool name for a good Deftones cut though either way
That's a cool theory given what we know about Abe/Chino/Stef going back to their roots at the beginning of the writing.
I haven't listened to the leaks, but the Ohms video gives me apocalyptic Adam/Eve vibes. Maybe there's a Genesis or Biblical theme going on. Could be a coincidence tho
I haven't listened to it yet. I'm proud. I'll refrain myself from doing so, until friday, or probably even skip the single altogether.
I can't wait for this thread to blow up on Thursday!
I think the Genesis meaning has to do with the rebirth of the band or maybe even Chino. In that interview he said he got some professional help and it was really good for him. Talked about how he wasn't always the best person to his friends. I think it's cool he talked about it.
They all sound really excited for this one... gore just didn't have this positive feeling to it.. I think there all back and happy and wrote a killer record together. Genesis being the first track might have something to do with better times now and a rebirth of the band...
But I could be way off!! Just happy there still making music after all they have been through. And even happier Terry is in the mix.
So wait...Genesis drops tonight at Midnight in the US EST?!!!
Sorry, I obviously can't read...
If the images on the teaser are from the actual music video, it looks like the performance shots were taken while they were shooting for Ohms.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 08:40 PM
If the images on the teaser are from the actual music video, it looks like the performance shots were taken while they were shooting for Ohms.
seems likely
Yup, Clemente Ruiz shot two performances when he visited Abe and Frank in Sacto, Chino in Portland, Stef in L.A. and Sergio in NY.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 08:40 PM
If the images on the teaser are from the actual music video, it looks like the performance shots were taken while they were shooting for Ohms.
Indeed!
https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/ (https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 08:40 PM
If the images on the teaser are from the actual music video, it looks like the performance shots were taken while they were shooting for Ohms.
chino mentioned it in an interview.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 08:40 PM
If the images on the teaser are from the actual music video, it looks like the performance shots were taken while they were shooting for Ohms.
One of them mentioned that both videos were shot the same day or session. It's RAfatoon again I clearly remember hearing this either from one of the Chino interviews or abe, if not
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 15, 2020, 06:58 PM
Dun dundundun dundundun.... Dun dundundun....
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 15, 2020, 07:06 PM
Teehee... Rosemary... Teehee..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivg7w6R7PNs
"Certain sounds make my dick really fucking hard."
Curious to know if this song justifies the 9-string Stef plays...
Maybe? Stef said in an interview that the 9 string is only on a couple songs, and I think he said you'll know when it's being used.
I should never have listened to the leak. This was the last time, that'll teach me.
My nipples are tickling with excitement!
I'm not too big on Ohms...hopefully Genesis with change that.
The guitar in the Genesis teaser reminds me a LOT of Pink Maggit. Very excited.
Now watch how wild it getsss.....in the next couple days ;)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 10:05 PM
I should never have listened to the leak. This was the last time, that'll teach me.
And I'm here wishing I didn't listen to Ohms and read people compare genesis to other songs and other spoilers from people here. Feels good to have lots of surprise left.
I listened to the Genesis teaser but I won't listen to the single until the album comes out because I can't imagine taking the bread off of the sandwich because it won't be as good a sandwich without the top and bottom bun. I know you get what I mean. I don't want to start the album and skip past the first song because I'm tired of it . I love the feeling of putting it in the first time and it all being very new and mysterious first listen ....being that the first and last song Are the singles, and available, makes it very very hard to have that experience.. I won't do it. But oh boy am I amped up for this track , it sounds gorgeous
It's the anticipation like this that makes me realize what a great time it is to be alive. 2020 sucked hard but 9/25/2020 is going to be glorious.
We are so lucky to be fans of such a band. Especially right now the way life is in the world we are so lucky to have something on the brink to bring us happiness. YOU R LUCKY. Never stop sharing this music with others that aren't as enlightened as you are
I too am STRONGLY considering not listening to it... It's gonna take some godly will power but I think I can do it. Really wished they didn't release the closer as the first single...That would have given me an excuse to listen to it at least lol.
I made a little IG post. Lame?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFLeLo9AGNv/?igshid=1r5guwyq5cub9
Beyond Stoked to hear Ohms Opening Track for the First time! The calm before the storm is what I predict for the limited Genesis snippet?
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 16, 2020, 03:29 AM
Beyond Stoked to hear Ohms Opening Track for the First time! The calm before the storm is what I predict for the limited Genesis snippet?
i cant get enough of the snippet
Really hope they Livestream a performance or something
First Single is the last on the record. Next Single is
The Opening of the Album...
Not leak talk!
Just heard that Chino is gonna be on BBC 6 Music next Wednesday talking to Mary Anne Hobbs about the new album. Her show is 10.30am til 1pm UK time if anyone wants to catch it 🙂
Quote from: Shells on Sep 16, 2020, 10:18 AM
Just heard that Chino is gonna be on BBC 6 Music next Wednesday talking to Mary Anne Hobbs about the new album. Her show is 10.30am til 1pm UK time if anyone wants to catch it 🙂
Superb!
I strongly advise not to hear the leak if you haven't yet. Listening to the song for the first time in high quality when you haven't heard yet is a much better experience.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 16, 2020, 12:30 PM
I strongly advise not to hear the leaks if you haven't heard yet. Listening to the song for the first time in high quality when you haven't heard yet is a much better experience.
CD quality leak or nothing. And only if you have already pre-ordered the album, bought a ticket to a show and merch. ;D
At this point with streaming services like Spotify, listen to leaks early means nothing in the long run.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 16, 2020, 12:47 PM
At this point with streaming services like Spotify, listen to leaks early means nothing in the long run.
with streaming services like spotify, artists get fucked in the ass. Buy the album (vinyl directly from website is a good start), buy show tickets, and merch.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 16, 2020, 12:55 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 16, 2020, 12:47 PM
At this point with streaming services like Spotify, listen to leaks early means nothing in the long run.
with streaming services like spotify, artists get fucked in the ass. Buy the album (vinyl directly from website is a good start), buy show tickets, and merch.
I think most of the people on here will be buying their shit, every album they release if it leaks and I stumble upon the leaks I've listened then bought the album still and gone to shows. To date, leaks have always hyped up my excitement for each album and I'm yet to be disappointed. Even Gore, I really don't understand the hate it gets.
Quote from: Ihateallofmyfriends on Sep 16, 2020, 01:09 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 16, 2020, 12:55 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 16, 2020, 12:47 PM
At this point with streaming services like Spotify, listen to leaks early means nothing in the long run.
with streaming services like spotify, artists get fucked in the ass. Buy the album (vinyl directly from website is a good start), buy show tickets, and merch.
I think most of the people on here will be buying their shit, every album they release if it leaks and I stumble upon the leaks I've listened then bought the album still and gone to shows. To date, leaks have always hyped up my excitement for each album and I'm yet to be disappointed. Even Gore, I really don't understand the hate it gets.
I know, of course.
Quote from: Shells on Sep 16, 2020, 10:18 AM
Just heard that Chino is gonna be on BBC 6 Music next Wednesday talking to Mary Anne Hobbs about the new album. Her show is 10.30am til 1pm UK time if anyone wants to catch it 🙂
I'll need a reminder, though they will definitely promote this
FLAC or bust
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 03:31 PM
FLAC or bust
I'm gonna send you a 96kbps transcode.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 15, 2020, 06:21 PM
Sharing Lungs mods be like:
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lmao
Just listened to the Genesis teaser and will def listen when it drops on Friday. I do usually sail the high seas a few days early for releases of bands I like, but I think I'll just wait and listen to this one when I get the vinyl I preordered
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 16, 2020, 04:09 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 03:31 PM
FLAC or bust
I'm gonna send you a 96kbps transcode.
Lets do this
Plot twist: the whole album is of the exact same quality as the leaks. It was all a prank.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 16, 2020, 05:12 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 16, 2020, 04:09 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 03:31 PM
FLAC or bust
I'm gonna send you a 96kbps transcode.
Lets do this
Plot twist: the whole album is of the exact same quality as the leaks. It was all a prank.
I havent heard the leaks. First time i have been good. I am going into next friday with zero expectations.. listened to Ohms three times, love the Genesis snippet.. so far so good
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 05:23 PM
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 16, 2020, 05:12 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 16, 2020, 04:09 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 03:31 PM
FLAC or bust
I'm gonna send you a 96kbps transcode.
Lets do this
Plot twist: the whole album is of the exact same quality as the leaks. It was all a prank.
I havent heard the leaks. First time i have been good. I am going into next friday with zero expectations.. listened to Ohms three times, love the Genesis snippet.. so far so good
Samesies!
Don't know if anyone has seen but Sergio and Deftones IG accounts are posting lyric teases and a QR code with the album art in it... ::)
Quote from: Ihateallofmyfriends on Sep 16, 2020, 06:26 PM
Don't know if anyone has seen but Sergio and Deftones IG accounts are posting lyric teases and a QR code with the album art in it... ::)
Errors out for me
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 06:37 PM
Quote from: Ihateallofmyfriends on Sep 16, 2020, 06:26 PM
Don't know if anyone has seen but Sergio and Deftones IG accounts are posting lyric teases and a QR code with the album art in it... ::)
Errors out for me
That's the point, it takes you to deftones.com and has the 'click hear if you think you came here in error' which then takes you to the tease of Genesis :D
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 16, 2020, 06:37 PM
Quote from: Ihateallofmyfriends on Sep 16, 2020, 06:26 PM
Don't know if anyone has seen but Sergio and Deftones IG accounts are posting lyric teases and a QR code with the album art in it... ::)
Errors out for me
That's just the name of the link ;)
So I have to open an Instagram account to see this stuff? That is why I hate this day and age of things for music and art. Why can't we still have record stores and open things physically in the car? Why do I have to have all these social media platforms to get clues? ::) ;D I get it but it's not as great.
Anyone care to snapshot any of that and post here? Pretty pretty please?
It's just the link you would have got on their mailing list yesterday I think.
Yup, it's the same QR code that leads to deftones.com/reborn.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 16, 2020, 07:10 PM
So I have to open an Instagram account to see this stuff? That is why I hate this day and age of things for music and art. Why can't we still have record stores and open things physically in the car? Why do I have to have all these social media platforms to get clues? ::) ;D I get it but it's not as great.
Anyone care to snapshot any of that and post here? Pretty pretty please?
But you can still go to the record store and open things physically in the car. Just like you could before.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 16, 2020, 07:10 PM
So I have to open an Instagram account to see this stuff? That is why I hate this day and age of things for music and art. Why can't we still have record stores and open things physically in the car? Why do I have to have all these social media platforms to get clues? ::) ;D I get it but it's not as great.
Anyone care to snapshot any of that and post here? Pretty pretty please?
Get with it, grandad!
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 16, 2020, 07:19 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 16, 2020, 07:10 PM
So I have to open an Instagram account to see this stuff? That is why I hate this day and age of things for music and art. Why can't we still have record stores and open things physically in the car? Why do I have to have all these social media platforms to get clues? ::) ;D I get it but it's not as great.
Anyone care to snapshot any of that and post here? Pretty pretty please?
Get with it, grandad!
No thank u. Not just for this
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 16, 2020, 07:18 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 16, 2020, 07:10 PM
So I have to open an Instagram account to see this stuff? That is why I hate this day and age of things for music and art. Why can't we still have record stores and open things physically in the car? Why do I have to have all these social media platforms to get clues? ::) ;D I get it but it's not as great.
Anyone care to snapshot any of that and post here? Pretty pretty please?
But you can still go to the record store and open things physically in the car. Just like you could before.
Yeah i dont have a record store anywhere near me. I ordered it and will wait for it.
Hearing this teaser makes me so happy. It's so great they chose such a peaceful and calm song for the second single. I didn't expect that. Maybe it's something like Mascara ::) I feel Genesis will be a radio-friendly hit
LOL
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 16, 2020, 07:24 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 16, 2020, 07:18 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 16, 2020, 07:10 PM
So I have to open an Instagram account to see this stuff? That is why I hate this day and age of things for music and art. Why can't we still have record stores and open things physically in the car? Why do I have to have all these social media platforms to get clues? ::) ;D I get it but it's not as great.
Anyone care to snapshot any of that and post here? Pretty pretty please?
But you can still go to the record store and open things physically in the car. Just like you could before.
Yeah i dont have a record store anywhere near me. I ordered it and will wait for it.
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bahaha, j/k. I feel the same way sometimes.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 16, 2020, 07:50 PM
Hearing this teaser makes me so happy. It's so great they chose such a peaceful and calm song for the second single. I didn't expect that. Maybe it's something like Mascara ::) I feel Genesis will be a radio-friendly hit
😈😜
For someone that didn't hear the teaser on purpose, I don't even know if it's sarcasm.
Genesis is for sure one of their poppier, upbeat songs, as it is indeed influenced by Phil Collins. Think Sussudio but by Deftones.
You guys are gonna love the trumpet solo on Genesis.
I would actually really like if they had some sax on a track
The synth on genesis reminds me of the intro they were using on the Diamond Eyes summer tour.
One of the best intro songs for live shows they used was Be Wild by M83
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 16, 2020, 07:50 PM
Hearing this teaser makes me so happy. It's so great they chose such a peaceful and calm song for the second single. I didn't expect that. Maybe it's something like Mascara ::) I feel Genesis will be a radio-friendly hit
Thinking the exact opposite here. Really excited to hear the track, but I feel like this is the calm before the storm on this song.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 16, 2020, 08:43 PM
One of the best intro songs for live shows they used was Be Wild by M83
Totally agree!!!
So this is a thing that exists.. 1 Track Ohms Single Promo.
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That cover art is fucking great. Love it
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 16, 2020, 10:36 PM
So this is a thing that exists.. 1 Track Ohms Single Promo.
(https://i.imgur.com/MLhuPoE.jpg)
It was on ebay a few days ago, gone for almost $60...
Anyone else battling with whether or not they're going to listen to it tomorrow?? I listened to Ohms and I wasn't too satisfied.. I hear this is going to be better so it's REALLLY hard for me NOT to listen to it haha.
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 17, 2020, 02:03 AM
Anyone else battling with whether or not they're going to listen to it tomorrow?? I listened to Ohms and I wasn't too satisfied.. I hear this is going to be better so it's REALLLY hard for me NOT to listen to it haha.
I'm definitely in at Midnight myself. I commend those of you with the willpower to stay away. Best of luck Brother!
I'm gonna try to hold off on listening to it. I'll just read the comments instead to build up my hype since the album is only a few days away.
2 (and 22) more hours. Stick tight guys, one more week after that!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:00 AM
2 (and 22) more hours. Stick tight guys, one more week after that!
Word
Bumping S/T right now in preparation. It's crazy how their old stuff still holds up to me even though I've heard these songs about a billion times.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 05:02 AM
Bumping S/T right now in preparation. It's crazy how their old stuff still holds up to me even though I've heard these songs about a billion times.
Right? Just about any of it could be released today and it would still sound fresh.
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 17, 2020, 02:03 AM
Anyone else battling with whether or not they're going to listen to it tomorrow?? I listened to Ohms and I wasn't too satisfied.. I hear this is going to be better so it's REALLLY hard for me NOT to listen to it haha.
Yes, the legends are true. It's better than Ohms.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:07 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 05:02 AM
Bumping S/T right now in preparation. It's crazy how their old stuff still holds up to me even though I've heard these songs about a billion times.
Right? Just about any of it could be released today and it would still sound fresh.
Hell yea, it's aged like fine wine...
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 17, 2020, 02:03 AM
Anyone else battling with whether or not they're going to listen to it tomorrow?? I listened to Ohms and I wasn't too satisfied.. I hear this is going to be better so it's REALLLY hard for me NOT to listen to it haha.
I was, until I heard that little intro or w/e. I really, really, really hope its part of the song. Such great vibe from a little clip...
I dont think I'll be able to keep myself away from it. I'm weak when it comes to them... whatever, lol.
Should be just an hour until the song starts popping up on the internet
Two more hours
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Say the line, sharing lungs
It should be here any time...but... 2 more hours at the latest!
They did a midnight roll out for Ohms but isn't this one different? The teaser had a bunch of times reflecting this unless thats just when the film clip is released.
Quote from: Prty on Sep 17, 2020, 10:06 AM
They did a midnight roll out for Ohms but isn't this one different? The teaser had a bunch of times reflecting this unless thats just when the film clip is released.
That's just the video.
Ohms the song leaked the day before, Thursday, around this time in the morning.
Lots of songs and albums are leaking right now new ones popping out every minute. Deftones will surely be one of them really soon.
I was coming in here to say just that.
September 18th singles are starting to leak. Won't be long now!
Indeed! Refreshing this one site every 30 seconds. And there is like 2-4 new releases from tomorrow popping up every time.
GET READY!
Ah yes I'm now seeing what you guys are seeing, all good
It is here guys.
Go go go!
Fuck yes, it's still better than I expected... I can't wait to hear everyone's thoughts.
🤘🏻
Well fuck. Lovely. Amazing track.
Synth is gorgeous.
Well it's not a peaceful song at all 8)
No no no no no no no... I was not expecting this at all.
The hype about this track was so much that I thought I would be underwhelmed by it.
This has exceeded my expectations by far!
They are sounding fresh and full of energy.
Um wot.
How are you guys hearing it.
Quote from: Playhouse on Sep 17, 2020, 11:37 AM
Um wot.
How are you guys hearing it.
We all live in New Zealand..... /s
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 17, 2020, 11:13 AM
Well it's not a peaceful song at all 8)
I find it optimistic sounding. Terry's done a fair bit of automation on this record..
Much better first impression than Ohms. This is what the hype sounds like.
I said this on discord so sorry for the repeat. Chino is screaming again. Legit screaming. And doesn't hardly sound strained like he did on Gore. I can't do this. These boys are firing. The buzzing at the beginning is like an annoying fly. For me it symbolizes the annoying talk of the poor mix of Gore. Then the song kicks in and blasts the buzzing noise out with that incredible mix and sound. Welcome back Mr. Date
Early Deftones is definitely one of the perks of New Zealand lol. Love the song, I feel like it's what they were going for with the last couple of albums but with with more interesting variation and better production to keep everything balanced in the mix.
god dam these descriptions have me holy shit fuck excited.
You sneaky Deftones. Mislead me with Ohms first, which is really good but doesn't 100% live up to the hype for album, then hit me with this absolutely overwhelming banger of a song. Wow
Bass sounds rich in the mix
Was not expecting that. Terry's influence is already in your face with just these 2 tracks.
All you've heard is true. This song is a banger. My only critique is the vocal mix. Too many filters to help Chino's voice. But Terry's magic makes it fit the vibe of the song perfectly. Just seemed a little too much at times. Other than that, yeah....exceeded my expectations and then slapped me around with them.
Genesis genuinely shocked me. I was expecting something softer and more ethereal to drop after hearing Ohms, but this was a very welcome surprise.
That was just great, god this week is gonna be slow.
Told you guys.
Yeah,Genesis slaps. Goddamn!
When it kicks in with a BOOM of noise YESSSSSSSS
Excitement x 10000000000000000000000
Not gonna listen to anymore stuff until the album leaks/drops.
Any substantive comments on the song? Unorthodox song structure, weird time signature/time changes, solos, new sounds/textures, etc.?
the salsa breakdown took me by surprise
This song is the soundtrack of my life absolutely amazing exactly what I wanted and needed thank you DEFTONES !!!!
edit: fuck me :o
Deftones - Genesis
I reject both sides of what im being told
I see right through
I watch how wild it gets
I finally achieved balance
approaching a delayed rebirth
I'm positive there's no sense of what im being told
yeah here I go
oh watch how wild it gets
how can you take your life
balance
now when you think you're done
reborn
climbing out of the ashes
turning time inside out
we're miles beyond the sound
we'll start again
change of lifestyle
it never gets old
yeah here we go
just watch how wild it gets
I finally achieved balance
approaching a delayed rebirth
climbing out of the ashes
we're turning time inside out
we're floating off in the ether
we're miles beyond the sound
we're everywhere
no need to return
I'll show you the way
We're everywhere
no need to return
I can take you away
no need to return
I said we're climbing out of the ashes
we're turning time inside out
floating off in the ether
we're miles beyond the sound
how can you take your life
balance
how will you spend your time
reborn
I like those lyrics.
I finally achieved..... balance balance balance balance
This song did nothing for me on first listen. I don't like the overdubbed vocals in the chorus and the heavy riff sounds like Royal and other songs from Diamond Eyes.. Maybe it will grow on me though since I didn't like Ohms at first either.
I like that Sergio is doing backing vocals.
Man, that intro gives me a Koi/Eros vibe. Then just smashes in with the Diamond Eyes sound. Fuck I'm excited for the 25th. All the guys really shined on that track.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 01:39 PM
This song did nothing for me on first listen. I don't like the overdubbed vocals in the chorus and the heavy riff sounds like Royal and other songs from Diamond Eyes.. Maybe it will grow on me though since I didn't like Ohms at first either.
Yeah but Royal and Diamond Eyes are good bro. Drink the koolaid 8)
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 01:39 PM
This song did nothing for me on first listen. I don't like the overdubbed vocals in the chorus and the heavy riff sounds like Royal and other songs from Diamond Eyes.. Maybe it will grow on me though since I didn't like Ohms at first either.
I agree. I gave three listens. I am good
until next week
Oh dear that was epic.
I'm so so glad I didn't listen to the shit quality leak of this beautiful track.
I dig it... liked Ohms a little better, but Genesis is definitely a deftones song
cool. i heard half of it from that bad quality leak, but this sounds so much better. sounds like Stef isn't using the 8th or 9th string either on the low end, but can't tell for sure. glad he's not just spamming that 9th string the whole album, lol
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 02:41 PM
cool. i heard half of it from that bad quality leaks, but it this sounds so much better. sounds like Stef isn't using the 8th or 9th string either on the low end, but can't tell for sure
I'd say definitely the 8 on this one.
Also I love that quick gallopy thing in the riff he does... I don't think he's done anything like that before.
Don't get the Diamond Eyes comparison.
Welcome back Terry Date
Sounds like Combat to me.
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can see myself liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. P/T was weak.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can't see myself not liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. That was weak.
That's a little strange to say, considering you've not heard the song.
Shit slams. Love hearing the bass so warm in the mix! Not used to hearing that with them. The bridge is beautiful.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 02:50 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can't see myself not liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. That was weak.
That's a little strange to say, considering you've not heard the song.
Double negative. It means I will like it better.
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 17, 2020, 02:54 PM
Shit slams. Love hearing the bass so warm in the mix! Not used to hearing that with them. The bridge is beautiful.
Yeah great low end.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 03:00 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 02:50 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can't see myself not liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. That was weak.
That's a little strange to say, considering you've not heard the song.
Double negative. It means I will like it better.
doh! sorry didn't see that lol./
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 03:05 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 03:00 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 02:50 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can't see myself not liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. That was weak.
That's a little strange to say, considering you've not heard the song.
Double negative. It means I will like it better.
doh! sorry didn't see that lol./
I re read myself and saw how confusing my sentence was so I edited it.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 03:02 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 17, 2020, 02:54 PM
Shit slams. Love hearing the bass so warm in the mix! Not used to hearing that with them. The bridge is beautiful.
Yeah great low end.
Love the Doomy Riff. Also the instrumentation almost sounds live to me.. production is so much better. Sergio sounds fantastic.
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Also I love that quick gallopy thing in the riff he does... I don't think he's done anything like that before.
I noticed that too...can't help but follow along with it with a quick double to triple headbang ;D
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 01:39 PM
This song did nothing for me on first listen. I don't like the overdubbed vocals in the chorus and the heavy riff sounds like Royal and other songs from Diamond Eyes.. Maybe it will grow on me though since I didn't like Ohms at first either.
same here, sounds even a bit overproduced? so far not too impressed with ohms but we'll see
I just listened to it ONCE, Ive already played Ohms to death and I want to wait till the entire record is out so everything (well except ohms) feels fresh!
I do have to say the song surprised me in how in your face it is, in a good way! Nice opening, certainly better than P/T as an opener, and it might grow to be better than Diamond Eyes and Swerve City as well. Love it!
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can see myself liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. P/T was weak.
Pink Triangle is a Weezer song my dude
;D
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 17, 2020, 03:22 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 01:39 PM
This song did nothing for me on first listen. I don't like the overdubbed vocals in the chorus and the heavy riff sounds like Royal and other songs from Diamond Eyes.. Maybe it will grow on me though since I didn't like Ohms at first either.
same here, sounds even a bit overproduced? so far not too impressed with ohms but we'll see
Gore underproduced. Ohms overproduced. These guys can't win
That's just Penicks. They win with him only if they write the self-titled again. Not a dig, I enjoy reading him slag off everything new, right on cue.
Not impressed with this one tbh
Quote from: Lincblade on Sep 17, 2020, 03:26 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can see myself liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. P/T was weak.
Pink Triangle is a Weezer song my dude
Song's so forgettable, I forgot its name.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 03:42 PM
Not impressed with this one tbh
Me too, especially because of the vocals. Intro & outro are cool tho...
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Lincblade on Sep 17, 2020, 03:26 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can see myself liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. P/T was weak.
Pink Triangle is a Weezer song my dude
Song's so forgettable, I forgot its name.
Hey! That's...true ;)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 03:42 PM
Not impressed with this one tbh
Song may not be your cup o' tea. But how do you feel about the production/audio?
Already cracked and listened a second time, but this time on my high end receiver. Damn some lush guitar work in this song! Blew me away more the second time than the first time tbh haha.
Okay now I will wait till next week friday!
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 17, 2020, 03:53 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 03:42 PM
Not impressed with this one tbh
Song may not be your cup o' tea. But how do you feel about the production/audio?
My expectations may be on the wrong side.
The production is immense. I don't think it's overproduced, Deftones just probably got cleaner over time.
I liked how Terry mentioned that Chi's bass was basically the "floor" for all the other sounds and Sergio's is a very different thing. I guess in the back of my head I'm naively hoping that Sergio starts playing with his fingers on a 5-string "tradional" bass, and that's where I'm wrong.
The song is solid, there's no denying that. And congrats to Deftones for the banger, it's going to be another great release, I'm happy for them.
I guess I'm a little underwhelmed with the guitar work, mostly on the verses. I don't mind that Stef still resorts to powerchords but this 0-1-0-2-like move got old for me. The chorus of Lotion is perfect when it comes to that, it had the necessary twist while still being very simple. This sounds very generic imo.
The break is pretty cool, "salsa" like someone said. It reminds me a lot of when I saw At The Drive-In live. Between that and the CKY comparisons on the riff of Ohms, I'd say someone's been on a punk/post-hardcore binge. ;D
Sorry if I sound like a total snob, this is just my opinion.
Now you guys are worrying me with this overproduced talk. This was my favorite song of the bunch he played that night, so I hope they didn't make some last minute tweaks. Guess I'll find out when the video drops.
Set your VPN to New Zealand
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 17, 2020, 12:10 PM
Early Deftones is definitely one of the perks of New Zealand lol. Love the song, I feel like it's what they were going for with the last couple of albums but with with more interesting variation and better production to keep everything balanced in the mix.
Living in the future has it perks :)
Yeah, I'n this song, Terry is automating the kick and the snare a fair bit, along with with almost every other element in the mix. This is standard practice for a good mix engineer. It so refreshing considering how disjointed Gore sounded mix wise over the different songs. These songs will have there own little identities within parts of the songs. I rate that.
Quote from: Lincblade on Sep 17, 2020, 03:26 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can see myself liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. P/T was weak.
Pink Triangle is a Weezer song my dude
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:14 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 17, 2020, 03:53 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 03:42 PM
Not impressed with this one tbh
Song may not be your cup o' tea. But how do you feel about the production/audio?
My expectations may be on the wrong side.
The production is immense. I don't think it's overproduced, Deftones just probably got cleaner over time.
I liked how Terry mentioned that Chi's bass was basically the "floor" for all the other sounds and Sergio's is a very different thing. I guess in the back of my head I'm naively hoping that Sergio starts playing with his fingers on a 5-string "tradional" bass, and that's where I'm wrong.
The song is solid, there's no denying that. And congrats to Deftones for the banger, it's going to be another great release, I'm happy for them.
I guess I'm a little underwhelmed with the guitar work, mostly on the verses. I don't mind that Stef still resorts to powerchords but this 0-1-0-2-like move got old for me. The chorus of Lotion is perfect when it comes to that, it had the necessary twist while still being very simple. This sounds very generic imo.
The break is pretty cool, "salsa" like someone said. It reminds me a lot of when I saw At The Drive-In live. Between that and the CKY comparisons on the riff of Ohms, I'd say someone's been on a punk/post-hardcore binge. ;D
Sorry if I sound like a total snob, this is just my opinion.
Don't sound like a snob at all. It's your opinion. And a well thought out one.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 04:15 PM
Now you guys are worrying me with this overproduced talk. This was my favorite song of the bunch he played that night, so I hope they didn't make some last minute tweaks. Guess I'll find out when the video drops.
Sounds the same to me, other than now you can hear the guitars properly
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 04:15 PM
Now you guys are worrying me with this overproduced talk. This was my favorite song of the bunch he played that night, so I hope they didn't make some last minute tweaks. Guess I'll find out when the video drops.
Sounds amazing IMO, Terry is meant for Deftones.
dunno if overproduced is the right word, i'm just not too impressed by the guitar. doesn't quite hit me in the face with crunch or a wall of sound, it's just there and it sounds fine and loud but it's nothing special, agreeing with ves
I don't think it's over produced at all. I think the instruments all sounds great. I could do with less vocal effects but I've been saying that for the last 3 records.
This is a great comeback and a great album opener!
Glad to read the mostly positive takes on Genesis. I'm holding out from listening to it until the album drops as I want it all to be fresh on first listen.
Is consensus that it's a good opening track?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:14 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 17, 2020, 03:53 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 03:42 PM
Not impressed with this one tbh
Song may not be your cup o' tea. But how do you feel about the production/audio?
My expectations may be on the wrong side.
The production is immense. I don't think it's overproduced, Deftones just probably got cleaner over time.
I liked how Terry mentioned that Chi's bass was basically the "floor" for all the other sounds and Sergio's is a very different thing. I guess in the back of my head I'm naively hoping that Sergio starts playing with his fingers on a 5-string "tradional" bass, and that's where I'm wrong.
The song is solid, there's no denying that. And congrats to Deftones for the banger, it's going to be another great release, I'm happy for them.
I guess I'm a little underwhelmed with the guitar work, mostly on the verses. I don't mind that Stef still resorts to powerchords but this 0-1-0-2-like move got old for me. The chorus of Lotion is perfect when it comes to that, it had the necessary twist while still being very simple. This sounds very generic imo.
The break is pretty cool, "salsa" like someone said. It reminds me a lot of when I saw At The Drive-In live. Between that and the CKY comparisons on the riff of Ohms, I'd say someone's been on a punk/post-hardcore binge. ;D
Sorry if I sound like a total snob, this is just my opinion.
Agreed. I joke that they have had the same riffs on every album, they just tune down or add another string for each album. Lol.
More impressed that they find melodies and songs out of some of their riffs over the course of 9 albums.
First listen I was like, damn this is great. Second listen I was like meh. Maybe it'll grow on me.
Best opening track in years. Possibly ever.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 17, 2020, 04:35 PM
Glad to read the mostly positive takes on Genesis. I'm holding out from listening to it until the album drops as I want it all to be fresh on first listen.
Is consensus that it's a good opening track?
In my perspective, that's hard to say without hearing the whole record. Same for judging Ohms as a closer. Although I have to say Ohms is growing on me, and it's starting to have a layer of finality to it that the 4 years of album hype originally overpowered-- perhaps I was too excited for a banger that STARTED momentum rather than ENDED the journey. But I guess that brings into question the choice of it being a first single.
I'm trying to go into it blank by next Friday, though! Time will tell how this all sounds as a unit.
Lots of diversity of opinion on the track, which I guess is not unexpected. Another music board I post on is shitting on the track kind of hard. Tend to trust their opinion more than this board ironically. Haven't listened to the track (holding off after already spoiling Ohms) but this has me disconcerted.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:14 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 17, 2020, 03:53 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 03:42 PM
Not impressed with this one tbh
Song may not be your cup o' tea. But how do you feel about the production/audio?
My expectations may be on the wrong side.
The production is immense. I don't think it's overproduced, Deftones just probably got cleaner over time.
I liked how Terry mentioned that Chi's bass was basically the "floor" for all the other sounds and Sergio's is a very different thing. I guess in the back of my head I'm naively hoping that Sergio starts playing with his fingers on a 5-string "tradional" bass, and that's where I'm wrong.
The song is solid, there's no denying that. And congrats to Deftones for the banger, it's going to be another great release, I'm happy for them.
I guess I'm a little underwhelmed with the guitar work, mostly on the verses. I don't mind that Stef still resorts to powerchords but this 0-1-0-2-like move got old for me. The chorus of Lotion is perfect when it comes to that, it had the necessary twist while still being very simple. This sounds very generic imo.
The break is pretty cool, "salsa" like someone said. It reminds me a lot of when I saw At The Drive-In live. Between that and the CKY comparisons on the riff of Ohms, I'd say someone's been on a punk/post-hardcore binge. ;D
Sorry if I sound like a total snob, this is just my opinion.
This sound like a case of having very personal and high expectations. I guess that's fine.
We should feel lucky that deftones hasn't become a horrible band like most 90's rock band still playing right now.
Imagine Deftones coming out with a "One More Light" type of album.
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 17, 2020, 04:31 PM
dunno if overproduced is the right word, i'm just not too impressed by the guitar. doesn't quite hit me in the face with crunch or a wall of sound, it's just there and it sounds fine and loud but it's nothing special, agreeing with ves
You put into words something I couldn't quite describe. That gorgeous intro set the stage for a punch in the gut wall of guitar to come in and brutalize everything in its path but it just sort of...appeared.
I have been pointing to something like "16 Psyche" by Chelsea Wolfe for how to get that bash your head in grungy, crunchy guitar to take the song over. That would have been killer here.
On my 5th listen now and still irked at the vocal effects. Otherwise, it's a keeper.
Guitar sounds absolutely huge for me. Frank is definitely the star on this song.
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
On second thought, the verses of Lotion have another case of 0-1 kinda riff so the comparison doesn't really apply.
In retrospect, this may come as a surprise, but I don't remember one single Deftones song that actually "wow-ed" me. This band has always been more of a thing where I got intrigued and the music grew a lot on me over time and additional listens. I didn't like White Pony when I first listened to it. I didn't even understand the point of Pink Maggit, especially since I first listened to the edition with Back To School, I was like "Wait, I've heard that before". Now Pink Maggit is my favorite piece of music.
In fact, one of the songs of Ohms could very well be the first case of me being properly amazed on first listen. Don't quote me on it, I can't remember every single first impression, I'm almost positive though.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 04:44 PM
Lots of diversity of opinion on the track, which I guess is not unexpected. Another music board I post on is shitting on the track kind of hard. Tend to trust their opinion more than this board ironically. Haven't listened to the track (holding off after already spoiling Ohms) but this has me disconcerted.
Making your own opinion is important. Don't let other's influence yours. Everyone is different, some of my least favorite deftones songs are revered by the majority of the fanbase and vice versa.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
On second thought, the verses of Lotion have another case of 0-1 kinda riff so the comparison doesn't really apply.
In retrospect, this may come as a surprise, but I don't remember one single Deftones song that actually "wow-ed" me. This band has always been more of a thing where I got intrigued and the music grew a lot on me over time and additional listens. I didn't like White Pony when I first listened to it. I didn't even understand the point of Pink Maggit, especially since I first listened to the edition with Back To School, I was like "Wait, I've heard that before". Now Pink Maggit is my favorite piece of music.
In fact, one of the songs of Ohms could very well be the case of me being properly amazed on first listen. Don't quote me on it, I can't remember every single first impression, I'm almost positive though.
That's the way this band has always been with me. I remember really doubting S/T when it first came out and now it's a masterpiece in my eyes. First impressions rarely end up dictating how I feel about their music (the only notable exception being Gore...).
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
The only thing I don't like is when there's vocal effects when chino says "Rebirth" and "balance" just sounds out of place on that part but other than that its a great opener.
The chorus is the only thing I'm not a fan of, it's just, I dunno, dissonant and sounds slightly off to me.
Rest of the track is fucking great though, I also loved Ohms.
Looking forward to a week from now!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
Experimental, if you count copying sounds that were big three or four years earlier 'experimental'.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
On second thought, the verses of Lotion have another case of 0-1 kinda riff so the comparison doesn't really apply.
In retrospect, this may come as a surprise, but I don't remember one single Deftones song that actually "wow-ed" me. This band has always been more of a thing where I got intrigued and the music grew a lot on me over time and additional listens. I didn't like White Pony when I first listened to it. I didn't even understand the point of Pink Maggit, especially since I first listened to the edition with Back To School, I was like "Wait, I've heard that before". Now Pink Maggit is my favorite piece of music.
In fact, one of the songs of Ohms could very well be the case of me being properly amazed on first listen. Don't quote me on it, I can't remember every single first impression, I'm almost positive though.
That's the way this band has always been with me. I remember really doubting S/T when it first came out and now it's a masterpiece in my eyes. First impressions rarely end up dictating how I feel about their music (the only notable exception being Gore...).
Ditto. The S/T bored me to death on first listen, truthfully. I thought every song sounded like the previous one. Now I think Hexagram is the best riff Stef's ever come up with.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
Experimental, if you count copying sounds that were big three or four years earlier 'experimental'.
*laughs in Diamond Eyes*
Experimental in the sense they made something they hadn't done before. Expecting artists to be groundbreaking in this day and age is silly imo.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
In retrospect, this may come as a surprise, but I don't remember one single Deftones song that actually "wow-ed" me. This band has always been more of a thing where I got intrigued and the music grew a lot on me over time and additional listens. I didn't like White Pony when I first listened to it. I didn't even understand the point of Pink Maggit, especially since I first listened to the edition with Back To School, I was like "Wait, I've heard that before". Now Pink Maggit is my favorite piece of music.
The same thing happened to me with Radiohead's Kid A. The first time I listened to it, I was like "What the fuck is this bullshit?"...lol. I was obviously wrong because it's one of the greatest albums ever made.
Quote from: Vanby on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
The chorus is the only thing I'm not a fan of, it's just, I dunno, dissonant and sounds slightly off to me.
A dissonant chino chorus? Color me shocked.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:59 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
Experimental, if you count copying sounds that were big three or four years earlier 'experimental'.
*laughs in Diamond Eyes*
Experimental in the sense they made something they hadn't done before. Expecting artists to be groundbreaking in this day and age is silly imo.
Chasm of difference between 'groundbreaking' and just ripping off a load of stuff that was big recently.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 04:59 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
In retrospect, this may come as a surprise, but I don't remember one single Deftones song that actually "wow-ed" me. This band has always been more of a thing where I got intrigued and the music grew a lot on me over time and additional listens. I didn't like White Pony when I first listened to it. I didn't even understand the point of Pink Maggit, especially since I first listened to the edition with Back To School, I was like "Wait, I've heard that before". Now Pink Maggit is my favorite piece of music.
The same thing happened to me with Radiohead's Kid A. The first time I listened to it, I was like "What the fuck is this bullshit?"...lol. I was obviously wrong because it's one of the greatest albums ever made.
I may have been a little more directly hooked on Adrenaline. Terry or Chino went on record to say it was basically recorded live, and that's what I loved about it and made me like it a lot quicker, despite the "teenage angst" debate over it and how most of us have matured into different people. I'd jam Adrenaline any day. That groove is untouchable.
It was already different with Around the Fur, although that's where I was the most intrigued, like "Hey... this sounds super interesting". I remember blasting the record through my house over and over and thinking I was listening to the most legendary underground rock concert ever. I love Around the Fur. I still think it's their best album.
I think the most wowed i've been with a deftones song on first listen is "Cherry Wave" and "Beauty School".
I still like them but they got old since. The songs that stays relevant to me the longest are the one that confuses me at first.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Doesn't seem to be because the only comment on Genesis is a user saying it's awesome. sputnikmusic seems to be head over heels for it, so not them either. chorus.fm isn't shitting on it, so I'm stumped.
I feel like this is just as odd a choice for an opener as Ohms was for a closer, as their openers are usually much more straightforward (except for Feiticeira) and radio friendly (except for Hexagram probably) than this. I do not say this as a bad thing at all, though.
What I definitely threw me off were the slightly but clearly out of tune vocals in the chorus and especially, and I can't stress that enough, how the delayed vocals suddenly go mono and sound like they're closer to you than the actual vocals, as they travel 'inwards' rather than 'outwards'. That one effect in particular felt really offensive to my ears.
Everything else was ace tho. Really liked that break.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
Is it 4chan?
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:01 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:59 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
Experimental, if you count copying sounds that were big three or four years earlier 'experimental'.
*laughs in Diamond Eyes*
Experimental in the sense they made something they hadn't done before. Expecting artists to be groundbreaking in this day and age is silly imo.
Chasm of difference between 'groundbreaking' and just ripping off a load of stuff that was big recently.
I don't see what's wrong with following trends if you actually dig those trends, which they seemed to do. I don't need to remind you they were huge fans of Deftones and probably still are. I think the influences they went with happened to be what was successful, I don't think they were like "Oh this was successfully commercial so I need to include it in my album". But hey, I've been hearing "Linkin Park is such a commercial joke band" since high school, I'm not surprised to see how long that opinion has lasted.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 01:46 PM
I like that Sergio is doing backing vocals.
Is he? I remember people said he was doing backing vocals on a song from DE/KNY but it was just Chino lol.
I love Ohms and how different it is from what you expect from them, but this is that familiar feeling you get from a new Deftones song. It's fresh but it's unmistakable. The guitar in the intro reminds me a lot of Pink Maggit, too. I don't have the words to go into detail about what I love about the song, but it's incredible. Also the guitar during the "climbing out of the ashes" part sounds very much like another one of their songs but I can't put my finger on it. The main guitar riff sounds like it would be at home on the self-titled album too, which is always welcome, but Chino's screaming parts remind me a lot of SNW. All in all, I'm very excited to listen to the rest of these songs. I don't know if I like how some of the vocals sound accompanying the music though, if that makes sense? Like, the singing parts sound good but then he hits you with shouting random words, I don't really like that. Not enough to say I don't love the song though, I've played it a lot already.
It kind of feels like there's a lot of inspiration from their previous albums. Not that they're copying them or being unoriginal, but just feels like this album is almost like a homage to what they've created so far, but with the influence and ideas of where they're at currently as a band.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
I'll never understand how a Deftones fan couldn't like the Self Titled. But I do agree that Koi is at least the best album of the Sergio era.
Was not expecting such a reaction for shitting on "One More Light". I personally think the album deserves it, and jumping on trends and making weaker version of it, while completely losing what defined you as a band is the worst you can do to your fanbase. If they really wanted to make that type of music, good for them, but if deftones made a full trip hop album, I'd be pissed, even if it was great trip hop album.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 05:05 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:01 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:59 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
I don't like that debate. It's true that Linkin Park got rid of everything that made them them, but that was a case of a band going with a sound that they really, really liked. Ever since after Meteora, one can't deny that Linkin Park has been highly experimental, more so than Deftones dare I say. I know one of the most hardcore LP fans and they love One More Light.
Experimental, if you count copying sounds that were big three or four years earlier 'experimental'.
*laughs in Diamond Eyes*
Experimental in the sense they made something they hadn't done before. Expecting artists to be groundbreaking in this day and age is silly imo.
Chasm of difference between 'groundbreaking' and just ripping off a load of stuff that was big recently.
I don't see what's wrong with following trends if you actually dig those trends, which they seemed to do. I don't need to remind you they were huge fans of Deftones and probably still are. I think the influences they went with happened to be what was successful, I don't think they were like "Oh this was successfully commercial so I need to include it in my album". But hey, I've been hearing "Linkin Park is such a commercial joke band" since high school, I'm not surprised to see how long that opinion has lasted.
They can follow trends if they like but let's not pretend it was anything else.
As I once heard a music journalist say - if they'd come out a few years earlier they'd have sounded like Green Day, a few years before that they'd have sounded like Nirvana.
Not sure why some aren't into the vocal effects, care to elaborate? I think it sounds great personally. I can't remember the last time they actually used a vocal effect like that...obviously the one that comes to mind the most is Digital Bath with that underwater type of effect. I actually love the effect used at the 1:30 mark almost reminds me of that DB effect with a bit of distortion but screaming added onto it rather than the whisper singing. Added some variety to the song for me.
"Balanced" and "Reborn" parts wasn't sure about the first couple listens, but after that I started to catch myself repeating that part so got catchy and now I love it.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 05:14 PM
Was not expecting such a reaction for shitting on "One More Light". I personally think the album deserves it, and jumping on trends and making weaker version of it, while completely losing what defined you as a band is the worst you can do to your fanbase. If they really wanted to make that type of music, good for them, but if deftones made a full trip hop album, I'd be pissed, even if it was great trip hop album.
Half agree. I think if you want to make a specific type of record, you can; if you do a good version of it.
One More Light was a bad version of already well trodden musical territory. Just like most of their career.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 17, 2020, 05:12 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 01:46 PM
I like that Sergio is doing backing vocals.
Is he? I remember people said he was doing backing vocals on a song from DE/KNY but it was just Chino lol.
I love Ohms and how different it is from what you expect from them, but this is that familiar feeling you get from a new Deftones song. It's fresh but it's unmistakable. The guitar in the intro reminds me a lot of Pink Maggit, too. I don't have the words to go into detail about what I love about the song, but it's incredible. Also the guitar during the "climbing out of the ashes" part sounds very much like another one of their songs but I can't put my finger on it. The main guitar riff sounds like it would be at home on the self-titled album too, which is always welcome, but Chino's screaming parts remind me a lot of SNW. All in all, I'm very excited to listen to the rest of these songs. I don't know if I like how some of the vocals sound accompanying the music though, if that makes sense? Like, the singing parts sound good but then he hits you with shouting random words, I don't really like that. Not enough to say I don't love the song though, I've played it a lot already.
It kind of feels like there's a lot of inspiration from their previous albums. Not that they're copying them or being unoriginal, but just feels like this album is almost like a homage to what they've created so far, but with the influence and ideas of where they're at currently as a band.
Yeah, I agree big time - it does seem like a homage to a lot of their various sounds. Genesis is taking that "dark art metal progressiveness" style they were going for on Koi like Leathers, Tempest, Rosemary and Goon Squad but pulling it off a lot more seamlessly. It's djent-y, but with a much groovier riff than some of the repetitive ones Stef has offered up on the last three albums IMO.
There's also some Hexagram in there with Frank's constant synth while Chino makes some lyrical callbacks to it. And then there's the Royal similarities at the end. Royal was easily my favorite Sergio-era song until Genesis, so I'm kind of predestined to love it.
And again, I'm talking about what I heard one time on Mixlr and never again until tonight. ;)
Groove is the right word. Can't help but bounce along with that guitar and drum line.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
That's the way this band has always been with me. I remember really doubting S/T when it first came out and now it's a masterpiece in my eyes. First impressions rarely end up dictating how I feel about their music (the only notable exception being Gore...).
Usually its the same for me. Only exception was when I first heard Adrenaline/ATF. I got instantly hooked!
About Genesis, just heard it. This might be a very unpopular opinion: if Chino decides to stop screaming, I'm fine with it (I think). Thats all I'm going to say. Song is fine, not a jaw dropping tune by any means though, imho.
I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
Quote from: Far away on Sep 17, 2020, 05:29 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
That's the way this band has always been with me. I remember really doubting S/T when it first came out and now it's a masterpiece in my eyes. First impressions rarely end up dictating how I feel about their music (the only notable exception being Gore...).
Usually its the same for me. Only exception was when I first heard Adrenaline/ATF. I got instantly hooked!
About Genesis, just heard it. This might be a very unpopular opinion: if Chino decides to stop screaming, I'm fine with it (I think). Thats all I'm going to say. Song is fine, not a jaw dropping tune by any means though, imho.
Totally with you about the screaming. I think he could embrace his singing/crooning technique and have that play nicely with these heavy riffs. I mean he's done it before on song like Lovers and that's some of the best shit.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
He's holding a guitar in the video teaser. Definitely him on the intro, the bridge and then the very end.
Speaking of the bridge, none of you have even mentioned the bridge yet! What do you think? I think it's fucking epic, personally.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:24 PM
Groove is the right word. Can't help but bounce along with that guitar and drum line.
Exactly it's groovy as hell. I'm still hearing a much more live element to the music than in the past. And I love that. It sounds like they just got in a room and Terry recorded them.
Goddamn I can't wait to hear spell of mathematics.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 17, 2020, 05:29 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
That's the way this band has always been with me. I remember really doubting S/T when it first came out and now it's a masterpiece in my eyes. First impressions rarely end up dictating how I feel about their music (the only notable exception being Gore...).
Usually its the same for me. Only exception was when I first heard Adrenaline/ATF. I got instantly hooked!
About Genesis, just heard it. This might be a very unpopular opinion: if Chino decides to stop screaming, I'm fine with it (I think). Thats all I'm going to say. Song is fine, not a jaw dropping tune by any means though, imho.
Totally with you about the screaming. I think he could embrace his singing/crooning technique and have that play nicely with these heavy riffs. I mean he's done it before on song like Lovers and that's some of the best shit.
exactly my point. its not like they NEED him to scream his eyes out to drop the hammer. They have plenty of it without his voice. Lovers is an excellent example, btw!
I'm expecting the FATTEST C# to start Ceremony
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 05:34 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
He's holding a guitar in the video teaser. Definitely him on the intro, the bridge and then the very end.
Is he really? I coulda swore that was Sergio just from looking at the silhouette in the beginning of the teaser. All I could really see is just Chino wrapping the mic up ready to tear shit up 8)
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 17, 2020, 05:39 PM
I'm expecting the FATTEST C# to start Ceremony
I think you're done.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 05:34 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
He's holding a guitar in the video teaser. Definitely him on the intro, the bridge and then the very end.
Speaking of the bridge, none of you have even mentioned the bridge yet! What do you think? I think it's fucking epic, personally.
I'd mention it if I knew what part the bridge is lol (look, I'm not good with music words, I just like what I like).
I heard a lot of complaints on chino's screaming. Is it like "Rapture" bad?
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 17, 2020, 05:39 PM
I'm expecting the FATTEST C# to start Ceremony
:) :D :-[ :-X :-* :'( :'( ??? :D :D ;D :( :o ??? :-\ :-\ :-* :'( :-\ :-\ ::) 8) >:( >:(
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
I heard a lot of complaints on chino's screaming. Is it like "Rapture" bad?
lol
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 05:34 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
He's holding a guitar in the video teaser. Definitely him on the intro, the bridge and then the very end.
Speaking of the bridge, none of you have even mentioned the bridge yet! What do you think? I think it's fucking epic, personally.
That's definitely Sergio in the teaser video.
Just the stance and the hand position on that bass guitar.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 17, 2020, 05:39 PM
I'm expecting the FATTEST C# to start Ceremony
LoL.. No.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
I heard a lot of complaints on chino's screaming. Is it like "Rapture" bad?
Where are you hearing that from? lol... it's definitely not. This is top form Chino.
i'll say i like Genesis a lot. it kinda reminds me of combat. but out of the 2 so far Ohms is better in my opinion, cause Ohms has some of the best creative riffs Stephen has made the whole song through(basically a 6 string guitar song, and my fav stuff from him is the first 3 albums and like linus, all 6 string), and the ohms video makes it even better. Ohms is really good stuff. Genesis has your typical dun dun dun Stef riffs, nothing creative on his part here (but he's not Van Halen, or Dave Mustaine or anything, we know what to expect from him), but it gets it done and is a cool tune
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
I heard a lot of complaints on chino's screaming. Is it like "Rapture" bad?
Its mostly the reverb on the parts where he sings "Rebirth" and "balance" where its throwing some people off, so far im seeing mostly good things about his screaming.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
I heard a lot of complaints on chino's screaming. Is it like "Rapture" bad?
Hell no. They're great. I don't understand the anti-scream vibes on here. Solid track IMO.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 05:34 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
He's holding a guitar in the video teaser. Definitely him on the intro, the bridge and then the very end.
Speaking of the bridge, none of you have even mentioned the bridge yet! What do you think? I think it's fucking epic, personally.
Instant classic among Deftones bridges. Love its vibe.
I think some of you all smoke bad Strains. Genesis is great on some blueberry kush. Just saying.
Some of y'all need to learn to let a song sink in and not on first listen go "I like this bit, don't like that bit, good bridge, love that melody, hate that groove, like that filter etc".
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 17, 2020, 05:42 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 05:34 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
He's holding a guitar in the video teaser. Definitely him on the intro, the bridge and then the very end.
Speaking of the bridge, none of you have even mentioned the bridge yet! What do you think? I think it's fucking epic, personally.
I'd mention it if I knew what part the bridge is lol (look, I'm not good with music words, I just like what I like).
The bridge is the part after the verses and choruses. It's the part where Chinos sings "we're everywhere"...
Screaming on this is much better than his screaming on SNW and Gore. It's very impressive he can still do it this well in his late 40's.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
i thought the avg person thought diamond eyes was their best album since WP to this day. no idea for sure what the consensus is. but but for me it's probably diamond eyes. seemed like a big comeback from them, and the most radio play, and hype, and old fans coming out of the woodwork again. so much positivity with that record
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:57 PM
Some of y'all need to learn to let a song sink in and not on first listen go "I like this bit, don't like that bit, good bridge, love that melody, hate that groove, like that filter etc".
Some of us are incredibly analytical and maybe musicians themselves. It's hard not to excessively scrutinize. Especially when you love this band so much and have certain expectations or desires about directions you wish the band would go. I got really annoyed with this band when they rehash old songs/riffs/sounds for new stuff or write songs that sound unfinished (that's my main criticism of S/T and Gore, though with Gore I don't think anything could've saved it with how poorly it was recorded).
Lol just as I figured, get back here to see the forum buzzing about a new track. Haven't listened to it yet, I think I'll wait for the album to drop. Sounds like your typical Deftones to me though, some fans enjoy the shit out of it while others have their reservations. Anyone else like me still holding out for next week?
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Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
i thought the avg person thought diamond eyes was their best album since WP to this day. no idea for sure what consensus is. but but for me it's probably diamond eyes. seemed like a big comeback from them, and the most radio play, and hype, and old fans coming out of the woodwork again. so much positivity with that record
I have no idea what the "average person" thinks in reference to what Deftones best album is. The other forum I'm on is music centered, featuring lots of musicians and avid Deftones fans. Consensus was there that KNY was their best since WP (though DE got a lot of love too) and S/T and Gore are their worst. I agree.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 05:59 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
i thought the avg person thought diamond eyes was their best album since WP to this day. no idea for sure what consensus is. but but for me it's probably diamond eyes. seemed like a big comeback from them, and the most radio play, and hype, and old fans coming out of the woodwork again. so much positivity with that record
DE is definitely their most overall praised after WP. There's something about DE that is very accessible, especially to people who are not that familiar with the band's catalogue. My personal opinion on DE is I think the singles are hit-or-miss but I pretty much love most of the deep cuts.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 05:59 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
i thought the avg person thought diamond eyes was their best album since WP to this day. no idea for sure what consensus is. but but for me it's probably diamond eyes. seemed like a big comeback from them, and the most radio play, and hype, and old fans coming out of the woodwork again. so much positivity with that record
That
is the general consensus. Individual forums don't reflect much apart from the taste of a very select group of people. Doesn't mean any opinion is right or wrong, better or worse.
For some reason I remember Diamond Eyes receiving a fair amount of dislike when it came out and shortly after. I could be wrong though. I'm thinking it was kind of lukewarm when it came out but has since became a more revered album?
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 05:59 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:57 PM
rainnyx4 is it vinyl collective?
Nah, it's a smaller forum with a very insular community. There's still diversity of opinion considering the band and their songs, but some pretty strong consensus there that conflicts with sentiments I tend to get around here. For example, I'm in agreement with this other forum that S/T was arguably their worst (along with Gore) and KNY was probably their best work since WP. Seems to be a lot more fawning over S/T and criticism of KNY around here by comparison, though pretty much everyone agrees Gore was garbage.
i thought the avg person thought diamond eyes was their best album since WP to this day. no idea for sure what consensus is. but but for me it's probably diamond eyes. seemed like a big comeback from them, and the most radio play, and hype, and old fans coming out of the woodwork again. so much positivity with that record
I'm old school Deftones but I love DE, my favorite Sergio record. I was blown away by DE title track at first listen. But I have to admit though, on first listen with the album I hated it.
I gotta admit I'm a little taken aback by the divergent opinions. This song is like the textbook definition of what a classic Deftones song sounds like to me, but I guess everyone's tastes are different.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:01 PM
Lol just as I figured, get back here to see the forum buzzing about a new track. Haven't listened to it yet, I think I'll wait for the album to drop. Sounds like your typical Deftones to me though, some fans enjoy the shit out of it while others have their reservations. Anyone else like me still holding out for next week?
I am going to wait a week, I don't want to replay that song over and over, and want the opening track to be a surprise.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:01 PM
Lol just as I figured, get back here to see the forum buzzing about a new track. Haven't listened to it yet, I think I'll wait for the album to drop. Sounds like your typical Deftones to me though, some fans enjoy the shit out of it while others have their reservations. Anyone else like me still holding out for next week?
I'm trying to hold out too, man, but I really want to listen.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:00 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:57 PM
Some of y'all need to learn to let a song sink in and not on first listen go "I like this bit, don't like that bit, good bridge, love that melody, hate that groove, like that filter etc".
Some of us are incredibly analytical and maybe musicians themselves. It's hard not to excessively scrutinize.
I'm both of those things too though.
People go into music with too many expectations and put too much focus on instinctive reactions. To me, that means they miss out on part of the fun. That's a mindset.
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 17, 2020, 06:07 PM
For some reason I remember Diamond Eyes receiving a fair amount of dislike when it came out and shortly after. I could be wrong though. I'm thinking it was kind of lukewarm when it came out but has since became a more revered album?
No that would be to do with which groups of people you were listening to. Diamond Eyes on the whole was incredibly well received immediately. Maybe the most instantly of any Deftones record. There's a reason it's considered such a huge kickstart in their career. Rightly so.
I must admit tho, the screaming without the reverb or w/e that effect is, sound WAY better than I expected (based on his screaming as of late)!
holy shit, Genesis is the One ....OMG that ending !!!!!!!
I feel the big issue with a lot of fans and they make up in their mind what they want the band to sound like, and instead of judging the songs by their own merit, they compare it with this "idea", which is probably something not very original. Not saying this is the case here.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
In retrospect, this may come as a surprise, but I don't remember one single Deftones song that actually "wow-ed" me. This band has always been more of a thing where I got intrigued and the music grew a lot on me over time and additional listens. I didn't like White Pony when I first listened to it. I didn't even understand the point of Pink Maggit, especially since I first listened to the edition with Back To School, I was like "Wait, I've heard that before". Now Pink Maggit is my favorite piece of music.
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??" That album took time to grow on me but when it did holy shit. Then again with S/T, didn't care for it's raw energy at first, I was expecting the refined polish of WP. But then it grew on me and became my favorite album.
That's basically the trend for every Tones record with me. On first listen it's like "huh?" then over time it just creeps in..
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:14 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:00 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 05:57 PM
Some of y'all need to learn to let a song sink in and not on first listen go "I like this bit, don't like that bit, good bridge, love that melody, hate that groove, like that filter etc".
Some of us are incredibly analytical and maybe musicians themselves. It's hard not to excessively scrutinize.
I'm both of those things too though.
People go into music with too many expectations and put too much focus on instinctive reactions. To me, that means they miss out on part of the fun. That's a mindset.
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 17, 2020, 06:07 PM
For some reason I remember Diamond Eyes receiving a fair amount of dislike when it came out and shortly after. I could be wrong though. I'm thinking it was kind of lukewarm when it came out but has since became a more revered album?
No that would be to do with which groups of people you were listening to. Diamond Eyes on the whole was incredibly well received immediately. Maybe the most instantly of any Deftones record. There's a reason it's considered such a huge kickstart in their career. Rightly so.
i'm kinda suprised diamond eyes didn't go Gold, it was very popular. i think it will someday, but it will take over 10 more years with how slow music sells. it very well may be in the 400,000 range though. just selling that last 100k could take 10-15 years
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:24 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Well it was the copy I obtained, so to me it was the official release. I didn't have a computer or smart phone to look it up.
Great song, solid opener
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:26 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:24 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Well it was the copy I obtained, so to me it was the official release. I didn't have a computer or smart phone to look it up.
I really think adding BTS made WP much worse. Feiticeira is a great opener, BTS ruins Pink Maggit. Fuck the label for forcing this and have 3 different version of the album. I always skip BTS when I listen to WP on spotify. Not a bad song, but feels like a separate thing.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
I heard a lot of complaints on chino's screaming. Is it like "Rapture" bad?
man i freakin love rapture. it's interesting to hear other opinions though. a lot of deftones fans tend to hate it
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:18 PM
I feel the big issue with a lot of fans and they make up in their mind what they want the band to sound like, and instead of judging the songs by their own merit, they compare it with this "idea", which is probably something not very original. Not saying this is the case here.
Yup, and I'm guilty of this for sure. But here's the thing: they are such a great band that it's almost impossible to not always expect great things from them. They set the bar very high for themselves very early in their career, which is maybe unfair to them, but we're only human.
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
I heard a lot of complaints on chino's screaming. Is it like "Rapture" bad?
man i freakin love rapture. it's interesting to hear other opinions though. a lot of deftones fans tend to hate it
The song is good, but it could have been much better if they, let's say, worked on chino's vocal a bit.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:26 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:24 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Well it was the copy I obtained, so to me it was the official release. I didn't have a computer or smart phone to look it up.
I really think adding BTS made WP much worse. Feiticeira is a great opener, BTS ruins Pink Maggit. Fuck the label for forcing this and have 3 different version of the album. I always skip BTS when I listen to WP on spotify. Not a bad song, but feels like a separate thing.
i agree. Chino hates that they did it too. BTS is kinda corny along with the super corny video, one of the few deftones tracks i'm not into, along with mein, and good morning beautiful. not bad stuff, i'm just not feelin those. BTS doesn't belong on WP whatsoever! feiticeira whipes the floor with BTS
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
This is good to know haha.
Interestingly, one of the articles about the album made it sound like This Link Is Dead is about expectations, which could specifically tie into fan expectations. Very curious about that one.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
This gets me really excited bro!!! If genesis is mixed this well just imagine what mathematics will sound like! 😎
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 06:37 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
This is good to know haha.
It could be good to know dude. Or it could be that you hate my favourite stuff haha.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:26 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:24 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Well it was the copy I obtained, so to me it was the official release. I didn't have a computer or smart phone to look it up.
I really think adding BTS made WP much worse. Feiticeira is a great opener, BTS ruins Pink Maggit. Fuck the label for forcing this and have 3 different version of the album. I always skip BTS when I listen to WP on spotify. Not a bad song, but feels like a separate thing.
I think the band would agree with you on that one.
I remember someone was like "omfg you gotta listen to new Deftones!" and I was like "aight" put the cd in and listened to BTS.... "wtf, why did you recommend this?" BTS is okay though, I agree it's a separate thing. The album is much better in it's original form but I gotta say though, for the sake of collecting it's kind of cool to have different versions. I loved hearing The Boys Republic.
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 17, 2020, 06:39 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
This gets me really excited bro!!! If genesis is mixed this well just imagine what mathematics will sound like! 😎
Can't wait to hear that song in all its glory.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:40 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 17, 2020, 06:37 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
This is good to know haha.
It could be good to know dude. Or it could be that you hate my favourite stuff haha.
Based on what I've seen from you it's a good thing.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 06:18 PM
I feel the big issue with a lot of fans and they make up in their mind what they want the band to sound like, and instead of judging the songs by their own merit, they compare it with this "idea", which is probably something not very original. Not saying this is the case here.
Yup, and I'm guilty of this for sure. But here's the thing: they are such a great band that it's almost impossible to not always expect great things from them. They set the bar very high for themselves very early in their career, which is maybe unfair to them, but we're only human.
This, a 1000% this. I really tried to avoid a second song. 2 out of 10 seems little to nothing, but its too much for me. But THEN, I decided to hear that fucking 24 seconds teaser... when I realized, I was listening to the whole thing. Talk about lack of self control. (kinda of impossible to me, when it comes to Deftones)
Any album reviews where they actually talk about each track? I remember a few that came out before Gore... I remember they compared Rubicon to a Failure track and it got me really excited...
And I remember some for KNY too
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
I've probably made my gushing over Genesis really overly-obvious at this point so you know which one I prefer, but I do like Ohms too - and where we can certainly agree is there's more greatness to come.
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 17, 2020, 06:41 PM
Any album reviews where they actually talk about each track? I remember a few that came out before Gore... I remember they compared Rubicon to a Failure track and it got me really excited...
And I remember some for KNY too
I'm sure the reviews will come in a flood next week. I was thinking about doing a write-up on every track I heard during the Mixlr stream but that's maybe not the best idea.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 06:36 PM
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Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Well it was the copy I obtained, so to me it was the official release. I didn't have a computer or smart phone to look it up.
I really think adding BTS made WP much worse. Feiticeira is a great opener, BTS ruins Pink Maggit. Fuck the label for forcing this and have 3 different version of the album. I always skip BTS when I listen to WP on spotify. Not a bad song, but feels like a separate thing.
i agree. Chino hates that they did it too. BTS is kinda corny along with the super corny video, one of the few deftones tracks i'm not into, along with mein, and good morning beautiful. not bad stuff, i'm just not feelin those. BTS doesn't belong on WP whatsoever! feiticeira whipes the floor with BTS
You... don't.. like Good Morning Beautiful!?? Whaaaaa?! Lol I used to wake up my older brother with that song "You should Waaake Uuupp!" hahahaha he'd get so pissed. ;D
I am very happy with Genesis! I'm trying to avoid making grand declarative statements about it's quality since it's just too fresh to give a really well-rounded opinion. But I really do love it after spinning it a number of times. Take this with a grain of salt, but this may be my favorite Deftones opener since Hole In The Earth or even Hexagram. Maybe even my favorite heavier Deftones track since Royal. Of course I'll need to hear it in the context of the full album to say for sure. It's filled to the brim with that classic Deftones energy. It's nice to hear a more rhythmic and groove centric song again, something I felt was lacking on Gore. It just has a certain swagger to it, you can really hear a lot of confidence behind the performance. I love Chino's cleans on the song, especially when he sings in his lower register such as the "I finally achieved... approaching a delay" part or in the bridge.
I need time to sit on this for a bit to see how it holds up after the initial excitement. I know one thing for certain though, this song is going to absolutely kill live.
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Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Well it was the copy I obtained, so to me it was the official release. I didn't have a computer or smart phone to look it up.
I really think adding BTS made WP much worse. Feiticeira is a great opener, BTS ruins Pink Maggit. Fuck the label for forcing this and have 3 different version of the album. I always skip BTS when I listen to WP on spotify. Not a bad song, but feels like a separate thing.
i agree. Chino hates that they did it too. BTS is kinda corny along with the super corny video, one of the few deftones tracks i'm not into, along with mein, and good morning beautiful. not bad stuff, i'm just not feelin those. BTS doesn't belong on WP whatsoever! feiticeira whipes the floor with BTS
Talking about deftones songs I never cared about. For me it has to be Graphic Nature. Talking about a song with no build up or payoff.
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Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Absolutely the same for me, WP I was like "wth, Back To School? and then again on the last track too??"
Well, BTS was not on the official release so I feel this is a moot point.
Well it was the copy I obtained, so to me it was the official release. I didn't have a computer or smart phone to look it up.
I really think adding BTS made WP much worse. Feiticeira is a great opener, BTS ruins Pink Maggit. Fuck the label for forcing this and have 3 different version of the album. I always skip BTS when I listen to WP on spotify. Not a bad song, but feels like a separate thing.
i agree. Chino hates that they did it too. BTS is kinda corny along with the super corny video, one of the few deftones tracks i'm not into, along with mein, and good morning beautiful. not bad stuff, i'm just not feelin those. BTS doesn't belong on WP whatsoever! feiticeira whipes the floor with BTS
Talking about deftones songs I never cared about. For me it has to be Graphic Nature. Talking about a song with no build up or payoff.
"woo! How tha FUCK you do iT! [abe's drumming killin' it]
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
This is good to know haha.
It could be good to know dude. Or it could be that you hate my favourite stuff haha.
Based on what I've seen from you it's a good thing.
You'll have to tell me your favourite songs when you listen to the album next week. There's a specific song I think you'll especially dig. I could be wrong though.
There's a still a chunk of this record I haven't heard.
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Anyway, they certainly cleared the bar for me with this song. I'm prone to say this one is an all-time great.
At this stage I prefer the title track but this is great too.
All my favourite stuff from that mixlr set hasn't come out yet.
I've probably made my gushing over Genesis really overly-obvious at this point so you know which one I prefer, but I do like Ohms too - and where we can certainly agree is there's more greatness to come.
I think I just love the open feel of Ohms - the major chord, stonery vibe, with that real bounce to it. Feels really refreshing. And the chorus is kick ass.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 06:38 PM
Interestingly, one of the articles about the album made it sound like This Link Is Dead is about expectations, which could specifically tie into fan expectations. Very curious about that one.
Wouldn't it be funny if we get the album and that song is just a reprise, Chino singing "This link is dead, I know you feel the same..."
Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can see myself liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. P/T was weak.
I disagree. I think that's one of Weezer's best.
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
I have not listened to the song, because I decided to wait, but from what I read, I can see myself liking this much better than Pink/Triangle as an opening track. P/T was weak.
I disagree. I think that's one of Weezer's best.
;D
To those who have heard the track and don't care for it as much as the others here, do you think it will be a grower for you and what is your opinion of Deftones best album? Just curious.
I used to debate with fans wether a song being good or not. Now i found that funny... and i know everyone has a valid opinion, because well.. its yours... but i couldnt care less if i am enjoying this song and another person is not. Im blasting the shit out of Genesis. You decide if you like it or not stop trying to convince other people that the song is trash/amazing.
After 3 listens, I enjoy the track just fine.... but am I alone in thinking that if it's Smile fucked Goon Squad?
No I agree, I'd never enter a serious debate about something that's so subjective. I haven't heard the song yet, I just asked if they thought it would grow on them more over time. Also curious to know what is the bar for those that seem reserved about it.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
After 3 listens, I enjoy the track just fine.... but am I alone in thinking that if it's Smile fucked Goon Squad?
Yeah I definitely get Smile vibes on the bridge section
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 07:29 PM
To those who have heard the track and don't care for it as much as the others here, do you think it will be a grower for you and what is your opinion of Deftones best album? Just curious.
I can't point to what's the
objectively best album, but my favorites are S/T, DE and KNY in no particular order. S/T and KNY (like most of their other albums) were growers, while I loved DE (and ATF) from the start. Oddly enough, White Pony is not my favorite, probably because I got into them pretty late so it didn't appear as revolutionary to me as it must have sounded at the time since I'd probably already heard thousands of records that have been influenced by it.
Regarding Genesis, it is definitely a grower for me, but not so much for other folks here as you can see.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
After 3 listens, I enjoy the track just fine.... but am I alone in thinking that if it's Smile fucked Goon Squad?
Actually, those exact two tracks are the ones that came to mind the strongest for me too. The chorus gives me major Smile vibes.
Let this song sink in, it's fucking great. BIG Sound
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
I used to debate with fans wether a song being good or not. Now i found that funny... and i know everyone has a valid opinion, because well.. its yours... but i couldnt care less if i am enjoying this song and another person is not. Im blasting the shit out of Genesis. You decide if you like it or not stop trying to convince other people that the song is trash/amazing.
Yeah, I used to be like that when I was younger, but as you get older it does seem pointless. You certainly aren't going to change anyone's mind on your opinion alone. I do love Genesis so much that when I see someone go "Meh" my first instinct is "WHAT!? HOW COME YOU DON'T LOVE THIS AS MUCH AS I DO!?!". But I have to realize there are Deftones songs that I say "Meh" to that other fans love. It can be fun debating sometimes and I've learned to be more respectful in disagreeing with others (I used to be a straight up asshole on this site lol) because taste in all forms of art, from music to movies to paintings, is entirely subjective.
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Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 07:29 PM
To those who have heard the track and don't care for it as much as the others here, do you think it will be a grower for you and what is your opinion of Deftones best album? Just curious.
I can't point to what's the objectively best album, but my favorites are S/T, DE and KNY in no particular order. S/T and KNY (like most of their other albums) were growers, while I loved DE (and ATF) from the start. Oddly enough, White Pony is not my favorite, probably because I got into them pretty late so it didn't appear as revolutionary to me as it must have sounded at the time since I'd probably already heard thousands of records that have been influenced by it.
Regarding Genesis, it is definitely a grower for me, but not so much for other folks here as you can see.
Interesting, WP was pretty much a left turn in the direction that music of it's kind were going. I can see how nowadays it's not that apparent. Thanks for the input, I can probably tell that this will be a grower for me as well (like most) however Ohms immediately took with me. I really like that track.
amazing avatar pic btw ;D
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
After 3 listens, I enjoy the track just fine.... but am I alone in thinking that if it's Smile fucked Goon Squad?
It's like Leathers, Tempest, Rosemary, Goon Squad, Hexagram, Royal and the end of Beware all had a massive orgy. Don't get a Smile vibe, though.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 07:59 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
I used to debate with fans wether a song being good or not. Now i found that funny... and i know everyone has a valid opinion, because well.. its yours... but i couldnt care less if i am enjoying this song and another person is not. Im blasting the shit out of Genesis. You decide if you like it or not stop trying to convince other people that the song is trash/amazing.
Yeah, I used to be like that when I was younger, but as you get older it does seem pointless. You certainly aren't going to change anyone's mind on your opinion alone. I do love Genesis so much that when I see someone go "Meh" my first instinct is "WHAT!? HOW COME YOU DON'T LOVE THIS AS MUCH AS I DO!?!". But I have to realize there are Deftones songs that I say "Meh" to that other fans love. It can be fun debating sometimes and I've learned to be more respectful in disagreeing with others (I used to be a straight up asshole on this site lol) because taste in everything, from music to movies to paintings, is entirely subjective.
There were a lot of assholes on this site back in the day (it IS the internet) but it's been fun seeing all you assholes grow up and mature lol. I feel like the younger generation fans today have more internet etiquette than we did in our younger days.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 07:29 PM
To those who have heard the track and don't care for it as much as the others here, do you think it will be a grower for you and what is your opinion of Deftones best album? Just curious.
and sorry what I should have asked is what is your favorite Deftones album. idk why I phrased it that way...
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 08:08 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 07:59 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
I used to debate with fans wether a song being good or not. Now i found that funny... and i know everyone has a valid opinion, because well.. its yours... but i couldnt care less if i am enjoying this song and another person is not. Im blasting the shit out of Genesis. You decide if you like it or not stop trying to convince other people that the song is trash/amazing.
Yeah, I used to be like that when I was younger, but as you get older it does seem pointless. You certainly aren't going to change anyone's mind on your opinion alone. I do love Genesis so much that when I see someone go "Meh" my first instinct is "WHAT!? HOW COME YOU DON'T LOVE THIS AS MUCH AS I DO!?!". But I have to realize there are Deftones songs that I say "Meh" to that other fans love. It can be fun debating sometimes and I've learned to be more respectful in disagreeing with others (I used to be a straight up asshole on this site lol) because taste in everything, from music to movies to paintings, is entirely subjective.
There were a lot of assholes on this site back in the day (it IS the internet) but it's been fun seeing all you assholes grow up and mature lol. I feel like the younger generation fans today have more internet etiquette than we did in our younger days.
Lol yeah. It is the internet. I think what bothers me is when people offer negative opinions but then don't really explain why they feel that way. I don't know why I expect that from the internet - it's the perfect place for someone to glibly write "this sucks!" and then just move onto the next thing without explaining why they think so. There I go with my damn expectations again - and for anonymous internet users none the less.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 08:22 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 17, 2020, 08:08 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 07:59 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
I used to debate with fans wether a song being good or not. Now i found that funny... and i know everyone has a valid opinion, because well.. its yours... but i couldnt care less if i am enjoying this song and another person is not. Im blasting the shit out of Genesis. You decide if you like it or not stop trying to convince other people that the song is trash/amazing.
Yeah, I used to be like that when I was younger, but as you get older it does seem pointless. You certainly aren't going to change anyone's mind on your opinion alone. I do love Genesis so much that when I see someone go "Meh" my first instinct is "WHAT!? HOW COME YOU DON'T LOVE THIS AS MUCH AS I DO!?!". But I have to realize there are Deftones songs that I say "Meh" to that other fans love. It can be fun debating sometimes and I've learned to be more respectful in disagreeing with others (I used to be a straight up asshole on this site lol) because taste in everything, from music to movies to paintings, is entirely subjective.
There were a lot of assholes on this site back in the day (it IS the internet) but it's been fun seeing all you assholes grow up and mature lol. I feel like the younger generation fans today have more internet etiquette than we did in our younger days.
Lol yeah. It is the internet. I think what bothers me is when people offer negative opinions but then don't really explain why they feel that way. I don't know why I expect that from the internet - it's the perfect place for someone to glibly write "this sucks!" and then just move onto the next thing without explaining why they think so. There I go with my damn expectations again - and from anonymous internet users none the less.
It amazes me how differing the opinions are on Deftones music. They really are a great band with diversity. I think it's our innate desire to persuade someone else to be excited about something that excites us. But I agree it's easy to be irked by someone who passively says something sucks. There's a big difference there.
Upon further listens Genesis is one of my least favorite songs of theirs. I'll take any song on Gore over this song, fight me. Apparently Stephen was disengaged on Gore but he's back in full form here supposedly, yet these are the riffs he came up with? What the hell? This song was a letdown yet the t/t was an unexpected sleeper hit, so I'm left with some massive cognitive dissonance about this album.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Upon further listens Genesis is one of my least favorite songs of theirs. I'll take any song on Gore over this song, fight me.
Why would we care enough to fight you about that?
I don't know, I just expected your Deftones-based autism to kick in
Lol
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:49 PM
I don't know, I just expected your Deftones-based autism to kick in
LOL...isn't thinking Xenon > Genesis the true Deftones-based autism, though?
Guess I haven't changed after all. ;D
:)Who gives a shit. U dont like it, he does. And im still excited about hearing it next week. Ill give my two cents that dont matter to anyone here but ill still share. Doesnt mean anyone should be bothered by my opinion and vice versa. Its JUST music. Deftones or The Rolling Stones. We r all different dude
listened to genesis, and wow..what a way to begin a record.i hope all songs on the album sound like this.
will they? of course not, but this is classic deftones swagger,this is what i love about them.fucking beautiful.
my goosebumps had goosebumps while i just smiled. i may very well still be smiling, quite possible i dont know. well done guys, well done.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Upon further listens Genesis is one of my least favorite songs of theirs. I'll take any song on Gore over this song, fight me. Apparently Stephen was disengaged on Gore but he's back in full form here supposedly, yet these are the riffs he came up with? What the hell? This song was a letdown yet the t/t was an unexpected sleeper hit, so I'm left with some massive cognitive dissonance about this album.
What is the "t/t" sleeper song?
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:05 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Upon further listens Genesis is one of my least favorite songs of theirs. I'll take any song on Gore over this song, fight me. Apparently Stephen was disengaged on Gore but he's back in full form here supposedly, yet these are the riffs he came up with? What the hell? This song was a letdown yet the t/t was an unexpected sleeper hit, so I'm left with some massive cognitive dissonance about this album.
What is the "t/t" sleeper song?
He means Ohms. t/t = title track.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 08:02 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
After 3 listens, I enjoy the track just fine.... but am I alone in thinking that if it's Smile fucked Goon Squad?
It's like Leathers, Tempest, Rosemary, Goon Squad, Hexagram, Royal and the end of Beware all had a massive orgy. Don't get a Smile vibe, though.
The chorus is much less memorable and catchy than any of these songs though. I like the song, but I think the chorus is meh. It builds up to an epic chorus but it turns out being one of their most boring choruses so far in my opinion. Good song but Smile and Rosemary are waaaay better. There are other songs with more beautiful choruses on this album.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 08:02 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
After 3 listens, I enjoy the track just fine.... but am I alone in thinking that if it's Smile fucked Goon Squad?
It's like Leathers, Tempest, Rosemary, Goon Squad, Hexagram, Royal and the end of Beware all had a massive orgy. Don't get a Smile vibe, though.
The chorus is much less memorable and catchy than any of these songs though. I like the song, but I think the chorus is meh. It builds up to an epic chorus but it turns out being one of their less epic choruses so far in my opinion. Good song but Smile and Rosemary are waaaay better. There are other songs with more beautiful choruses on this album.
The chorus is a huge grower for me. Also, the part where Chino sings the chorus and then goes back to screaming with "We're miles beyond the...SOUND!" is probably my single favorite moment of the song.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 09:06 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:05 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Upon further listens Genesis is one of my least favorite songs of theirs. I'll take any song on Gore over this song, fight me. Apparently Stephen was disengaged on Gore but he's back in full form here supposedly, yet these are the riffs he came up with? What the hell? This song was a letdown yet the t/t was an unexpected sleeper hit, so I'm left with some massive cognitive dissonance about this album.
What is the "t/t" sleeper song?
He means Ohms. t/t = title track.
::) Oh ok thanks bud
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:09 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 09:06 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:05 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Upon further listens Genesis is one of my least favorite songs of theirs. I'll take any song on Gore over this song, fight me. Apparently Stephen was disengaged on Gore but he's back in full form here supposedly, yet these are the riffs he came up with? What the hell? This song was a letdown yet the t/t was an unexpected sleeper hit, so I'm left with some massive cognitive dissonance about this album.
What is the "t/t" sleeper song?
He means Ohms. t/t = title track.
::) Oh ok thanks bud
You're...welcome?
I wouldnt have figured it out. Could have spelled out "Ohms" just as easily thats all
I'm really surprised this song is getting such a mixed reaction, it sounds MASSIVE. My initial reaction to Ohms was a bit meh but it's grown on me so much that I've had to force myself not to listen to it in anticipationof the album. This track got me instantly, bit like the first time I heard Poltergeist or Elite. Proper banger. I love the salsa bit too. I kinda wished they'd drawn that bit out for longer, reminded me a little bit of the middle part of Pneuma.
So, would anyone else agree to what someone said about Frank that hes all over this track?
MUST... RESIST...LISTENING.
Ya'll have no idea how crazy your descriptions and shit sound along with my mental projection of what this thing sounds like, haha. "Salsa"? LMAO! I thought someone was joking when I read that but now I've seen that word like three times already. Ugh, idk if I can fight the urge until next week! ;D
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 09:01 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:49 PM
I don't know, I just expected your Deftones-based autism to kick in
LOL...isn't thinking Xenon > Genesis the true Deftones-based autism, though?
Guess I haven't changed after all. ;D
Funny you say that cause Xenon has been inexplicably stuck in my head lately, unironically.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
So, would anyone else agree to what someone said about Frank that hes all over this track?
There is some cool synth stuff, almost like an 8 bit vibe but like a boss fight sort of sound. One of the things I like about this track is that the synth parts aren't hidden in the mix, even though its heavy as shit it elevates the guitar parts
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 09:41 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 17, 2020, 09:01 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:49 PM
I don't know, I just expected your Deftones-based autism to kick in
LOL...isn't thinking Xenon > Genesis the true Deftones-based autism, though?
Guess I haven't changed after all. ;D
Funny you say that cause Xenon has been inexplicably stuck in my head lately, unironically.
I actually kinda like Xenon, too - not one of their more epic songs, but it's a funky little tune. I mentioned it because it seems like one of those songs that gets absolutely no love from the fans.
It still ain't seeing Genesis in any way, shape or form, though! :D
Interesting
Xenon reminds me so much of Jane's Addiction. It could have been on one of their last records
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:49 PM
I don't know, I just expected your Deftones-based autism to kick in
:(
I thought the exact same thing about the pneuma comparison
Quote from: Ihateallofmyfriends on Sep 17, 2020, 09:24 PM
I'm really surprised this song is getting such a mixed reaction, it sounds MASSIVE. My initial reaction to Ohms was a bit meh but it's grown on me so much that I've had to force myself not to listen to it in anticipationof the album. This track got me instantly, bit like the first time I heard Poltergeist or Elite. Proper banger. I love the salsa bit too. I kinda wished they'd drawn that bit out for longer, reminded me a little bit of the middle part of Pneuma.
Link to the premiere in 6 hours time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbp0bET06wc
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 09:55 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:49 PM
I don't know, I just expected your Deftones-based autism to kick in
:(
Come on I thought you could relate and this would be like a bonding moment
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 17, 2020, 09:06 PMThere are other songs with more beautiful choruses on this album.
Promise me... ;D
God I wish that Ohms will have at least one song that will stuck in my head for years just like Bloody Cape, Digital Bath, Passenger or Pink Maggit. No matter what's happening around me, these songs are always welcome...
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 10:12 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 17, 2020, 09:55 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 17, 2020, 08:49 PM
I don't know, I just expected your Deftones-based autism to kick in
:(
Come on I thought you could relate and this would be like a bonding moment
Sir this is a McDonalds
Yes yes Ohms, yes yes Genesis
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
So, would anyone else agree to what someone said about Frank that hes all over this track?
agree but nobody cares nor the sexy bridge, people just waiting for Stef's touching the 9th string on his guitar, not this time ;D
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Sep 17, 2020, 11:19 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
So, would anyone else agree to what someone said about Frank that hes all over this track?
agree but nobody cares nor the sexy bridge, people just waiting for Stef's touching the 9th string on his guitar, not this time ;D
i'm not even sure he used the 8th string on this, i think the lowest might be the 7th string, but i could be wrong
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I wonder if chino is playing guitar on this song at all. That's two singles with just Stef if so. Pretty unusual!
He's holding a guitar in the video teaser. Definitely him on the intro, the bridge and then the very end.
Speaking of the bridge, none of you have even mentioned the bridge yet! What do you think? I think it's fucking epic, personally.
I'd mention it if I knew what part the bridge is lol (look, I'm not good with music words, I just like what I like).
The bridge is the part after the verses and choruses. It's the part where Chinos sings "we're everywhere"...
Screaming on this is much better than his screaming on SNW and Gore. It's very impressive he can still do it this well in his late 40's.
Ah I see. It's a beautiful section of the song, it has kind of a funky/groovy feel to it almost? Which you'd assume would feel out of place in this song, but actually it transitions so well from one part to the other.
I'm happy with his screaming, and I think the screams flow so well into the singing parts, they kind of strengthen each other, but I dislike the parts where he just sort of shouts, like the"Yeah here I go" part. I don't dislike it on other songs, it works on Goon Squad or Leathers for example. I just don't feel like it fits for the music in Genesis.
I'm playing this song too many times, at this rate I'll end up skipping it when I get the album lol. Not really, but it's tough going into a brand new album and waiting for all the new songs because you're spending five minutes listening to one you've played 50-ish times.
Genesis 😱wowza!
Genesis sounds exactly how I always expected Eros to sound like. Also, it might be just me, but I get heavy Slipknot vibes from that outro, when the lead guitar comes in and Chino starts screaming
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 11:26 PMi'm not even sure he used the 8th string on this, i think the lowest might be the 7th string, but i could be wrong
I believe the lowest note is a C two tones down from E standard, so that's as low as White Pony tuning. Funny how I believe we were all expecting him to go ultra low this time around, but he's actually gone up in both singles
I'm loving the frisbee/spinning top noise from Frank on this track. That had me trippin for a minute.
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Sep 17, 2020, 11:19 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
So, would anyone else agree to what someone said about Frank that hes all over this track?
agree but nobody cares nor the sexy bridge, people just waiting for Stef's touching the 9th string on his guitar, not this time ;D
Im glad he didnt. I dont need another Meshuggah.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 AM
I'm loving the frisbee/spinning top noise from Frank on this track. That had me trippin for a minute.
Right ! Some Radiohead shit right there. Very cool.
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Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
After 3 listens, I enjoy the track just fine.... but am I alone in thinking that if it’s Smile fucked Goon Squad?
It's like Leathers, Tempest, Rosemary, Goon Squad, Hexagram, Royal and the end of Beware all had a massive orgy. Don't get a Smile vibe, though.
The chorus is much less memorable and catchy than any of these songs though. I like the song, but I think the chorus is meh. It builds up to an epic chorus but it turns out being one of their most boring choruses so far in my opinion. Good song but Smile and Rosemary are waaaay better. There are other songs with more beautiful choruses on this album.
This is my feeling as well. Love the song but the "Climbing out of the ashes" part gives me "I just smelled something" face. Leave the vocals to Chino as well. But the rest is top notch.
two more hours
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 10:06 PM
Link to the premiere in 6 hours time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbp0bET06wc
2 more hours...
i think i might have listened to the song some 20 times now, and in every single one of them i've been irked by the vocal delay going mono on "balance" and "reborn"
This song honestly sounds like a return to a more S/T, White Pony sound..with a little Koi sprinkled in..and I fucking love it. Only listening to it once though until next week.
I hope the album has a slow chilled atmospheric song in the same vein as a Sextape or Entombed.. maybe Pompeji is it??
I heard the Genesis leak a long time ago. I knew right away that there would be people that did not like the Reverb parts, as well as the chorus.
that being said, to all of you that are starting to have some doubts please do not worry. There are some absolutely fantastic epic fuking moments on this album. I have no idea if you'll like the album in its entirety but there will 100% be a couple songs that absolutely floor you. keep the faith y'all
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 18, 2020, 02:15 AM
I heard the Genesis leak a long time ago. I knew right away that there would be people that did not like the Reverb parts, as well as the chorus.
that being said, to all of you that are starting to have some doubts please do not worry. There are some absolutely fantastic epic fuking moments on this album. I have no idea if you'll like the album in its entirety but there will 100% be a couple songs that absolutely floor you. keep the faith y'all
You've heard ALL of the songs??
I've heard the song 35 times today, still loving it.
So Stoked to hear the track! Really enjoying hearing everyone's take so far. Knowing all of us are the truest hardcore Tones Fans, good or bad I truly dig the passion!
well shie has some groove, but i wouldt classify it as "banger" fosho.
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 17, 2020, 11:55 PM
Genesis sounds exactly how I always expected Eros to sound like. Also, it might be just me, but I get heavy Slipknot vibes from that outro, when the lead guitar comes in and Chino starts screaming
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 17, 2020, 11:26 PMi'm not even sure he used the 8th string on this, i think the lowest might be the 7th string, but i could be wrong
I believe the lowest note is a C two tones down from E standard, so that's as low as White Pony tuning. Funny how I believe we were all expecting him to go ultra low this time around, but he's actually gone up in both singles
I'm with you on the lowest note in Genesis being a C. I have one of his LTD 8-strings (it's great lol), and the low "7th" string is tuned to B, so he'd probably be fretting the first fret of that 7th string to get the low C. I'm curious though, to see if he has the 9-string in the video once midnight rolls around (less than two more hours).
is this video available to you guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp9wgLUqu1M
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 18, 2020, 03:03 AM
is this video available to you guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp9wgLUqu1M
Yup it is.
It's available if it's September 18 where you live. Otherwise you have to wait until midnight. The video will premiere in an hour anyway, so the song will be available to everyone then.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 03:09 AM
It's available if it's September 18 where you live. Otherwise you have to wait until midnight. The video will premiere in an hour anyway, so the song will be available to everyone then.
Not midnight here. Song is up.
I heard one second of it and stopped.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 03:12 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 03:09 AM
It's available if it's September 18 where you live. Otherwise you have to wait until midnight. The video will premiere in an hour anyway, so the song will be available to everyone then.
Not midnight here. Song is up.
I heard one second of it and stopped.
hahaha
Long time user. I haven't posted since DE. That genesis riff pretty intense. I think steph got a little lazy in the chorus though.
TWO MORE MINUTES
eh
He's back on the 8 string?
:(
it was interesting how it kind of looked like they were all onstage performing and we were looking at all of them at the same time but yeah I guess that's all there is to it
seizure inducing as fuck, too
song has deffo grown on me though
The 4th time Ive heard the song (counting with the videoclip premiere):
- Intro is incredible.
- Guitar tone really cool (I was a little worried about it, you know..9 strings and all)
- I liked this one better than Ohms
- Video kinda meh.
Overall, I'd give this one an 7.5/10. Could be higher, but that echo thing or w/e, really not needed in the song. Not a song killer, but... just being picky!
when can we purchase Genesis ?....itunes?...amazon Mp3
OKAY...
Balance, Reborn...
The video is meh, maybe I've just expected more.
The song is good, it will work in a show for sure. Also loved that Stef returned to the analog setup, the guitars sound amazing that way
Quote from: mrpelon94 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:12 AM
when can we purchase Genesis ?....itunes?...amazon Mp3
Nvm i got it ..thanks Fam🙄
I had pre ordered the digital album on their website. Anyone else who has done the same, is Genesis available for download ?
The Groove is infectious
I didn't download the New Zealand link and I'm glad I waited it out because the visual added a nice component for me - another good video. Not as visually stunning or as expensive looking as Ohms obviously, but I liked the throwback early 90's vibe to it. More of an underground feel like the Hexagram video, which is appropriate for the song IMO.
As for Genesis itself: this song just completely blows me away. Chino's voice sounds better than it has in years (vocal effects don't bother me at all), Stef is bringing a lot of nice variety and groove in his riffs (much less repetitive than some of his DE/Koi/Gore riffs, for sure), Abe is on point as always and Frank is bringing beautiful textures.
It's really just a perfect opener and goes hard as fuck.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 10:06 PM
Link to the premiere in 6 hours time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbp0bET06wc
Moody.
Just 1 listen so far. Liked this much better. Had sort of an early/mid 80's Goth-y vibe yet still sounded contemporary. Heard some Jane's Addiction influence. Yet totally deftones because of Chino's vocals. Steph's guitar was heavy but not "Metally" per se.
I'll replay and look forward to hearing the rest of the album. Glad I liked this track!
Chino's voice during the Balance Balance Balance & Rebirth Rebirth Rebirth does the coolest thing when you listen with headphones. Terry Date really seemed to want to paint a portrait with his production skills with this one.
Love the track, but as a Tones Fan how can you not?!
This Record shows Great Promise!
We have both ends of the Album, the 8 Songs in the middle are eagerly anticipated.
Reject, Balance, Rebirth !!!
Also, this is the most they've sounded like S/T since...well, since S/T. That pissed-off darkness is back. Makes sense because the gawd Terry Date is back.
Well I caved and watched the video premiere... I'm getting some serious Ohms vibes
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 04:31 AM
Also, this is the most they've sounded like S/T since...well, since S/T. That pissed-off darkness is back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNbkSgEaDZ4
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 04:40 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 04:31 AM
Also, this is the most they've sounded like S/T since...well, since S/T. That pissed-off darkness is back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNbkSgEaDZ4
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/5cd58e876b6a52a5523f5b2cd99d9843/tenor.gif)
anyone else got Eros vibes? no? ok then imma head out
First things last Ink, Capt Spaulding Rules!
After blessedly hearing Genius I think it feels like Rosemary got mounted by a Goon Squad on Cherry Waves. Again the groove is infectious!
Right after Chino sing-screams that "We're miles away from the SOUND!" part, Stef adds a couple extra notes to the verse riff that is just fucking killer.
Im here hoping in a few weeks (maybe days, who knows), someone will come up with this song and Franks stuff on steroids, like those versions of Hexagram, WGTB and Beware people shared in here years back! I think it was you who worked on some of them, right mr. V? Im not sure though.
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 18, 2020, 04:46 AM
anyone else got Eros vibes? no? ok then imma head out
no but it sounds like adrenaline, ATF, WP, S/T, SNW, DE, KNY, Gore....
Quote from: geraavl08 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:08 AM
He's back on the 8 string?
Yeah he is playing an 8 string in this video.
Wow, Genesis, that's some dark shit man. Have never heard anything from them like this bfore. Really enjoying this so far
What is this video for it though lol
The Ohms video was so incredibly sick I had my hopes up but this feels very amateur.
Track keeps growing on me though, but I still like Ohms better so far.
Quote from: Vanby on Sep 18, 2020, 05:07 AM
What is this video for it though lol
The Ohms video was so incredibly sick I had my hopes up but this feels very amateur.
Track keeps growing on me though, but I still like Ohms better so far.
Lol they spent their whole budget on the Ohms video. But to be fair, they are in different states and we're in the middle of a pandemic. It's a performance video more than a show-off vid and I think it gets the job done.
I'm still surprised they didn't pick a certain song as the first single, being it's probably the most feel-good song of the bunch. Maybe that will be the third single?
Video was almost getting approx 1k views a minute for an hour.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 17, 2020, 10:16 PM
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 17, 2020, 09:06 PMThere are other songs with more beautiful choruses on this album.
Promise me... ;D
God I wish that Ohms will have at least one song that will stuck in my head for years just like Bloody Cape, Digital Bath, Passenger or Pink Maggit. No matter what's happening around me, these songs are always welcome...
I doubt it very much.
Does anyone feel like Genesis is weirdly motivational? When Chino screams "What will you do with your time?", it makes me want to focus on shit I need to get done.
So Yeah! After 20 listens, this Track is pure holistic DEFTONES! The vibe of S/T the rage and anger. With a Rosemary Groove?
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 05:22 AM
Does anyone feel like Genesis is weirdly motivational? When Chino screams "What will you do with your time?", it makes me want to focus on shit I need to get done.
YES!
I feel the positive nature of the Record so far as well!
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 05:22 AM
Does anyone feel like Genesis is weirdly motivational? When Chino screams "What will you do with your time?", it makes me want to focus on shit I need to get done.
lol yea it kinda does inspire me to get shit done. I feel ya on that
had to look up the lyrics. I will say the song is quite energizing. Like, with the theme of "climbing out of the ashes" and rebirth, it's sort of inspiring. I can't think of the right word... it makes me want to go fight someone at the same time then it switches to this whole other feeling.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 05:22 AM
Does anyone feel like Genesis is weirdly motivational? When Chino screams "What will you do with your time?", it makes me want to focus on shit I need to get done.
I wish that shit would work for me. Too bad I'm a helpless slob. Idk how I get shit done, tbh... years and years of home office might help do that to you, I guess.
Listened to this track a few more times since the premiere and my gawd does it have swagger. It's a fuckin banger alright.
We're in the home stretch now guys! That's it, in 7 days we'll have a new Deftones album.
I've enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts on the song so far. For me, there were some things vocally that bother me. But overall, there are some cool vibes here...
The BALANCE... REBORN... things in the verses are egregiously loud imo. (someone mentioned this being due to the delay being mono?) And the lower "harmony" vox in the choruses are up too loud I think as well.
I will say though that Terry Date is a master of getting the most out of Chino's screaming ability. He hasn't really been any good at screaming since the early 2000s, but these are mixed in a way that just works well for the song...
It'd be rad if Ohms and Genesis are two of the weaker tracks on the record, but we'll see. At least we're already off to a better start than Gore...
Once again, just because I can.
The Groove and the Message is on Point!
Deftones have way of Ownership that most of us don't understand.
Shit, I forgot who I'm talking to...sorry...
Love Genesis. It's like Deftones becoming even more Deftones to me 😄
Okay, Obviously I have an addiction.
Reject! Balance. Reborn!!!
After further listening, I'm hearing the weird vocal effect on "Can you taste your life?" now. Kinda reminds me of the underwater-sounding effect on his voice on MX. An intentional callback? It's less noticeable in the video version.
I think there's callbacks to a lot of their old stuff. "We're miles beyond the sound" feels like a twist on Hexagram's "If you keep listening, you can hear it for miles".
They also sampled a bee for the synth so it's not just seagulls and dolphins on this album.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 05:22 AM
Does anyone feel like Genesis is weirdly motivational? When Chino screams "What will you do with your time?", it makes me want to focus on shit I need to get done.
Absolutely!! Even the chorus - 'we're turning time inside out'. Just a great line and really inspiring.
Honestly I can't fault the song much at all, love it as an opening track even. Like Ohms, I found that Chino is a little bit more reserved and stepping back on vocal patterns to let the music breathe.
That was one thing I noticed on Gore, so the new stuff seems more relaxed for everyone.
Also, go Frank!! 🤘🏻
Will u all get shit done now? :o
Anyone notice the vocal harmonies in the chorus too? Can't think of many times they've EVER done that.
Hey all, my simple ratings for this song:
Vocals: Like all of them but in the chorus, as others have mentioned, there is something off that keeps distracting me. 7/10
Lyrics: Love them, great for the time we are living right now, motivational and even political. 8/10
Music: Great intro, sets the mood nicely, love how Steph's guitar sounds, riffs are great, solid and not over the top. Love the pace change after "I will show you the way", gives variety and freshness imo. Also, nice to hear more of Frank's textures than in Ohms. 9/10
Great song, great opener, solid 8/10 for me with room for improvement.
Eager to listen the full thing!
Quote from: Fuzzheadup on Sep 18, 2020, 09:48 AM
Anyone notice the vocal harmonies in the chorus too? Can't think of many times they've EVER done that.
Seriously how can could anyone not notice them..
Quote from: mono on Sep 18, 2020, 04:20 AM
The video is meh, maybe I've just expected more.
The song is good, it will work in a show for sure. Also loved that Stef returned to the analog setup, the guitars sound amazing that way
yes, the video is pretty weak. i expected it to be way better after the amazing Ohms video
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 18, 2020, 11:50 AM
Quote from: mono on Sep 18, 2020, 04:20 AM
The video is meh, maybe I've just expected more.
The song is good, it will work in a show for sure. Also loved that Stef returned to the analog setup, the guitars sound amazing that way
yes, the video is pretty weak. i expected it to be way better after the amazing Ohms video
Just to present opposite view... Its kinda cool that video looks almost as if it was just recording of guys playing this tune live in rehearsals room. It fits cause song itself got very 'live' vibe.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 10:38 AM
Quote from: Fuzzheadup on Sep 18, 2020, 09:48 AM
Anyone notice the vocal harmonies in the chorus too? Can’t think of many times they’ve EVER done that.
Seriously how can could anyone not notice them..
what's different about it? i don't understand vocal harmonies and guitar tunings very much. none musician here (besides dabbling on guitar)
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 18, 2020, 12:19 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 10:38 AM
Quote from: Fuzzheadup on Sep 18, 2020, 09:48 AM
Anyone notice the vocal harmonies in the chorus too? Can't think of many times they've EVER done that.
Seriously how can could anyone not notice them..
what's different about it? i don't understand vocal harmonies and guitar tunings very much. none musician here (besides dabbling on guitar)
I'm no expert either but if you listen to the chorus you can hear two different melodies sung over eachother - maybe it's more noticeable in this production, but I can't think of many other songs they have that use harmonies like that. Just thought it was interesting!
Sounds like Sergio singing backup vocals.
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Sep 18, 2020, 04:26 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 17, 2020, 10:06 PM
Link to the premiere in 6 hours time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbp0bET06wc
Moody.
Just 1 listen so far. Liked this much better. Had sort of an early/mid 80's Goth-y vibe yet still sounded contemporary. Heard some Jane's Addiction influence. Yet totally deftones because of Chino's vocals. Steph's guitar was heavy but not "Metally" per se.
I'll replay and look forward to hearing the rest of the album. Glad I liked this track!
Where do u hear Jane's Addiction? ???
Now i really can barely hold out. Jane's influenced and almost everyone likes it? Fuuuck
Parts of the vocals on Genesis remind me of the chorus on that Team Sleep song King Diamond.
That video was too busy. You could totally tell everyone's parts were filmed separately and just layered on top of each other lol.
Music videos Covid style - no bueno
I'm guessing that Genesis is a song about the band's life and career (maybe the entire album).
"I reject ... both sides of what I'm being told" is there anything more Deftones than that?
Some points are interesting too. Talking about balance, rebirth...
"Oh, can you taste your life? Balanced
How will you spend your time? Reborn"
Seems to be clear the duality. Singles listed and launched in opposition order.
Two personas trying to find themselves on Ohms.
The double exposure effect on Genesis music video (everything in only two colours — b&w).
It's a big Lego box. Haha!
Quote from: Draken on Sep 18, 2020, 04:34 AM
Well I caved and watched the video premiere... I'm getting some serious Ohms vibes
Weak :)
Is it really Sergio singing?
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 18, 2020, 01:48 PM
Parts of the vocals on Genesis remind me of the chorus on that Team Sleep song King Diamond.
Bridge on Genesis remind me of the guitar wall sound on that Team Sleep song Blvd. Nights.
I feel like MOOOOOOORE could have been done with Genesis. Probably the most annoying thing about this band is when they write songs that just miss the mark due to laziness or just bad decisions during the bridge. Was really disappointed when they got to the bridge and they did the predictable "let's just play the chorus riff without the rest of the band" thing and then suddenly it feels like it's going to go somewhere different and exciting...and then just back to the chorus riff again...come on guys! Same thing kind of happens during Ohms when they have the extra riff after the second chorus. Should've played with that a little more and have the song go in a less obvious direction.
I feel like this has been confirmed numerous times, but it seems like Chino has final say over the format of songs. I think he cut up SNW pretty much all by himself and he mentioned that when Steph writes songs they tend to be MUCH longer initially and that he gets them to make them abbreviated in the end. Gotta wonder what the earlier versions of these songs look like.
Overall, decent song, vocals on the chorus are interesting and dig all of the synth. But they feel like they're dangerously close to becoming Tool in the sense that they keep releasing the same album over and over again to less dramatic effect. Song sounds like a less impactful Leathers/Poltergeist/(L)MIRL/Royal.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 08:54 AM
After further listening, I'm hearing the weird vocal effect on "Can you taste your life?" now. Kinda reminds me of the underwater-sounding effect on his voice on MX. An intentional callback? It's less noticeable in the video version.
I think there's callbacks to a lot of their old stuff. "We're miles beyond the sound" feels like a twist on Hexagram's "If you keep listening, you can hear it for miles".
Yeah I love that effect on his voice. I'd love a whole song with the vocals like that because MX is one of my favourite songs ever (hearing them play it live was like a dream come true lol), it fits with that kind of dark, moody vibe too. Lots of callbacks to their previous songs/albums (whether intentional or not).
The video I'm not really a fan of (and I feel like it should've come with a warning for people who suffer from seizures for safety lol), but I don't mind since 99% of the time I'm not watching the video, I'm listening to the audio version. Plus it's understandable with how things are at the moment. I kind of thought it'd be like Ohms but with a different vibe, different images, etc. But it's not a big deal. Ohms is one of my favourite videos from them though, for sure.
The Ohms video was a pleasant surprise. I never expect good videos from them.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 18, 2020, 02:49 PM
I feel like this has been confirmed numerous times, but it seems like Chino has final say over the format of songs. I think he cut up SNW pretty much all by himself and he mentioned that when Steph writes songs they tend to be MUCH longer initially and that he gets them to make them abbreviated in the end. Gotta wonder what the earlier versions of these songs look like.
he did for SNW, but nothing is confirmed for the other albums. But to be honest, some of the SNW demos seemed to drag on forever.
Stef pretty much confirmed the other day on a podcast that I'm the end Chino changes things after it's been finished. I don't think he does it for every song, but it was implied that Chino changes things around quite frequently.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 18, 2020, 03:28 PM
Stef pretty much confirmed the other day on a podcast that I'm the end Chino changes things after it's been finished. I don't think he does it for every song, but it was implied that Chino changes things around quite frequently.
Yeah, it'd make sense for his melody and ideas to fit in the song, but IMO he should build and write that part while making the music.
Or they record more than they need to have room to do some edit (making riffs repeat longer etc)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 18, 2020, 03:28 PM
Stef pretty much confirmed the other day on a podcast that I'm the end Chino changes things after it's been finished. I don't think he does it for every song, but it was implied that Chino changes things around quite frequently.
I thought Steph was the boss? Maybe he was on break when Chino did that. Cause when youre the boss, you can take a break as long as you want.
Was it always like this? With WP and ATF too?That's a very strange way to make a song but whatever. It's fine for them so our opinions are irrelevant :D
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
but then, there are risk of the singer to come in, can't write anything off the music, decide to play with the song structure to fit his melody, and make it worse. some songs off SNW comes to mind.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 04:50 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
but then, there are risk of the singer to come in, can't write anything off the music, decide to play with the song structure to fit his melody, and make it worse. some songs off SNW comes to mind.
Well yeah, hence there's no right or wrong way to do it. Positives and negatives to either process. A punk band couldn't record like that, for example.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 18, 2020, 02:49 PM
Probably the most annoying thing about this band is when they write songs that just miss the mark due to laziness or just bad decisions during the bridge. Was really disappointed when they got to the bridge and they did the predictable "let's just play the chorus riff without the rest of the band" thing and then suddenly it feels like it's going to go somewhere different and exciting...and then just back to the chorus riff again...come on guys! Same thing kind of happens during Ohms when they have the extra riff after the second chorus. Should've played with that a little more and have the song go in a less obvious direction.
I've definitely felt that way about some of their past songs that had weak bridges and then went right back to a verse or chorus like like Entombed and What Happened to You? or songs that practically have no bridges like Graphic Nature and Gauze. But the bridge on Genesis works like gangbusters to me so I don't mind when they go back to the chorus for the third and final time. Plus the jump from bridge to chorus blends pretty seamlessly. From what I'm hearing, Stef throws down two different riffs on the bridge alone and then another riff over the repeated verse riff on the outro for extra depth (if it's not Chino's guitar, might be). I mean this thing is a fucking riff fest through and through. I feel like Stef really stepped it up on this song.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
I think Chino said somewhere in an interview that during the songwriting process he adds some simple vocals that gave the idea of a vocal melody but are mostly unintelligable gibberish. Later he comes up with the lyrics and then he sings it for the final work.
I think the concept vocals for Cherry Waves were once posted on this board, it's really interesting to listen to. Another forum member probably knows what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
I think Chino said somewhere in an interview that during the songwriting process he adds some simple vocals that gave the idea of a vocal melody but are mostly unintelligable gibberish. Later he comes up with the lyrics and then he sings it for the final work.
I think the concept vocals for Cherry Waves were once posted on this board, it's really interesting to listen to. Another forum member probably knows what I'm talking about.
The SNW demos have those vocals in. Just gibberish. The Combats demo vocals are hilarious
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 03:24 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 18, 2020, 02:49 PM
I feel like this has been confirmed numerous times, but it seems like Chino has final say over the format of songs. I think he cut up SNW pretty much all by himself and he mentioned that when Steph writes songs they tend to be MUCH longer initially and that he gets them to make them abbreviated in the end. Gotta wonder what the earlier versions of these songs look like.
he did for SNW, but nothing is confirmed for the other albums. But to be honest, some of the SNW demos seemed to drag on forever.
I don't think they drag on as much as they give you time to enter the song and feel the atmosphere. I love the untitled 5, Finger of Death is so good, this whole bunch of demos is very interesting and probably unlike anything they ever did. My favorite Deftones song is Pink Maggit, arguably their longest song.
Rosemary on the other hand is what I'd call a drag.
its not sergio in the backing vocals
theres nothing remotly close to "salsa" anywhere
theres no 9 string visible in either of the two songs available
im psyched that some of yall are enjoying the new stuff. but lets not blow out of proportion some of this stuff.
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
im psyched that some of yall are enjoying the new stuff. but lets not blow out of proportion some of this stuff.
different opinion exists. Genesis might be the best deftones song to some fans.
I wouldn't know, I have not listened to it yet and wants to judge it as a opener/ part of the album
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 05:23 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
I think Chino said somewhere in an interview that during the songwriting process he adds some simple vocals that gave the idea of a vocal melody but are mostly unintelligable gibberish. Later he comes up with the lyrics and then he sings it for the final work.
I think the concept vocals for Cherry Waves were once posted on this board, it's really interesting to listen to. Another forum member probably knows what I'm talking about.
The SNW demos have those vocals in. Just gibberish. The Combats demo vocals are hilarious
First from Adrenaline is basically this kind of track, I always felt like that track, while great sounded unfinished. But it was a great glimpse into what was going to come from this band
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Sep 18, 2020, 04:26 AM
Heard some Jane's Addiction influence.
yeah agree.im also hearing a lot of lonley island's dick in a box in this song
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
theres nothing remotly close to "salsa" anywhere
I was thinking the same way. But, then again, I'm no salsa expert.
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
im psyched that some of yall are enjoying the new stuff. but lets not blow out of proportion some of this stuff.
How dare people think for themselves, right?
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
its not sergio in the backing vocals
It absolutely is. It's a completely different voice to Chinos.
I would be absolutely shocked if it's not Sergio.
Maybe it's stef? :o
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
im psyched that some of yall are enjoying the new stuff. but lets not blow out of proportion some of this stuff.
different opinion exists. Genesis might be the best deftones song to some fans.
I wouldn't know, I have not listened to it yet and wants to judge it as a opener/ part of the album
Genesis is in my top 10 Deftones songs as of right now.
(https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--bqFPtuV7--/t_Resized%20Artwork/c_fit,g_north_west,h_954,w_954/co_ffffff,e_outline:35/co_ffffff,e_outline:inner_fill:35/co_ffffff,e_outline:35/co_ffffff,e_outline:inner_fill:35/co_bbbbbb,e_outline:3:1000/c_mpad,g_center,h_1260,w_1260/b_rgb:eeeeee/c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1492474288/production/designs/1471895_1.jpg)
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 17, 2020, 11:55 PM
Also, it might be just me, but I get heavy Slipknot vibes from that outro
Dude wtf, I'm all for different opinons, but this is just too harsh. reported
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 18, 2020, 05:49 PM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 17, 2020, 11:55 PM
Also, it might be just me, but I get heavy Slipknot vibes from that outro
Dude wtf, I'm all for different opinons, but this is just too harsh. reported
lmao
My troll sense is tingling.
Hey, I'm not a Slipknot fan, but there are worse bands to be compared to.
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 18, 2020, 02:53 AM
I've heard the song 35 times today, still loving it.
i understand...it's like crack. i'm murdering the repeat button. can't see myself ever getting tired of this song. my new bloody cape
Quote from: mono on Sep 18, 2020, 04:20 AM
The video is meh, maybe I've just expected more.
rule #1. never expect something out of a deftones video. ever.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 04:31 AM
Also, this is the most they've sounded like S/T since...well, since S/T. That pissed-off darkness is back.
yup it's crazy. never thought I would relive it, but here we are :D good times
Quote from: Far away on Sep 18, 2020, 04:11 AM
Overall, I'd give this one an 7.5/10. Could be higher
up to 2.5 higher...right?
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 18, 2020, 02:03 PM
That video was too busy. You could totally tell everyone's parts were filmed separately and just layered on top of each other lol.
Music videos Covid style - no bueno
steph looked so slim and thin in the video. effect?
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 18, 2020, 05:52 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 18, 2020, 02:53 AM
I've heard the song 35 times today, still loving it.
i understand...it's like crack. i'm murdering the repeat button. can't see myself ever getting tired of this song. my new bloody cape
This kind of comment makes it hard to control myself and wait until the album release. But i'm still holding up.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 18, 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 18, 2020, 04:11 AM
Overall, I'd give this one an 7.5/10. Could be higher
up to 2.5 higher...right?
Could be, if it wasnt for those '
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 18, 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: mono on Sep 18, 2020, 04:20 AM
The video is meh, maybe I've just expected more.
rule #1. never expect something out of a deftones video. ever.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 04:31 AM
Also, this is the most they've sounded like S/T since...well, since S/T. That pissed-off darkness is back.
yup it's crazy. never thought I would relive it, but here we are :D good times
Quote from: Far away on Sep 18, 2020, 04:11 AM
Overall, I'd give this one an 7.5/10. Could be higher
up to 2.5 higher...right?
It would be higher for me for sure, if it wasnt for those 'Balance, balance, balance' and other parts alike. But thats just me being a prick. I mean, picky, lol.
Can't fucking wait to hear this live, which might not be for while thanks to that fucker Covid
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 05:27 PM
Rosemary on the other hand is what I'd call a drag.
Maaaaaate. Opinions and all that but fuck me haha.
Incidentally, given someone mentioned it earlier; I think Combat is pretty rubbish. Main heavy riff's ok but that's about it for me. I think Genesis stomps all over it.
Not trying to turn this into the unpopular opinions thread though. Back to the album...
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 06:37 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 05:27 PM
Rosemary on the other hand is what I'd call a drag.
Maaaaaate. Opinions and all that but fuck me haha.
Incidentally, given someone mentioned it earlier; I think Combat is pretty rubbish. Main heavy riff's ok but that's about it for me. I think Genesis stomps all over it.
Not trying to turn this into the unpopular opinions thread though. Back to the album...
Genesis shits all over Combat for sure
Love the effects on Chino's vocals. Really cuts through and reminds me of White Pony stuff.
Really like it when he says "I'm positive" just after Stef goes up a note from that drone riff
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
I think Chino said somewhere in an interview that during the songwriting process he adds some simple vocals that gave the idea of a vocal melody but are mostly unintelligable gibberish. Later he comes up with the lyrics and then he sings it for the final work.
I think the concept vocals for Cherry Waves were once posted on this board, it's really interesting to listen to. Another forum member probably knows what I'm talking about.
Yeah there is footage on a few youtube videos of him doing just that. ATF and WP era comes to mind with him doing that at The Spot. Dunno if they were rehearsing or recording but it can be found
8/10 in Metal Hammer. This part is especially interesting:
"(This Link Is Dead) is probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record."
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 18, 2020, 06:09 PM
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 18, 2020, 02:03 PM
That video was too busy. You could totally tell everyone's parts were filmed separately and just layered on top of each other lol.
Music videos Covid style - no bueno
steph looked so slim and thin in the video. effect?
He does look slim in the Ohms vid i thought. They all look healthy. However, Abe's been indulging in the Belching Beaver
all i know is this main riff is gettin me hype AF like:
(https://i.gifer.com/origin/09/09976bf9569610fa3ca2631ceda59403_w200.gif)
i cant wait to elbow you fuckers again whenever we can get back in the moshpits :D fukin covid...
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 02:11 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 18, 2020, 04:34 AM
Well I caved and watched the video premiere... I'm getting some serious Ohms vibes
Weak :)
lol, yes well i knew that shit would be saying hello everytime i get online. I did say I'd listen to anything officially released. ;)
Quote from: Digaums on Sep 18, 2020, 02:03 PM
"I reject ... both sides of what I'm being told" is there anything more Deftones than that?
in the 2h interview,newly posted in the interview thread, chino said that
just that line was about politics.
republicans and democrats, and that he hates politics and rarely/never writes lyrics about it.
Quote from: Jdubzor on Sep 18, 2020, 04:29 PM
Cause when youre the boss, you can take a break as long as you want.
^awesome quote by an awesome person
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 06:11 PM
This kind of comment makes it hard to control myself and wait until the album release. But i'm still holding up.
you're in for a treat. i was floored.still am.everyone in the band brings their a-game and terry date's dna is all over this song.
if I have to find something to complain about,that would be that chino sounds a little bit worn out in certain screams.
but he's almost 50, so it's a bit like "time takes its toll on us",time wears you down,so it's cool like that i think.
I like when everything's not perfect per se and like when it's not polished to the max. it's not like when chino's voice breaks in his hexagram screams or anything,but you'll see.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 18, 2020, 06:43 PM
Genesis shits all over Combat for sure
lol combat, although being the best snw song, it has nothing on genesis. genesis is next level shit
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 18, 2020, 06:51 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
I think Chino said somewhere in an interview that during the songwriting process he adds some simple vocals that gave the idea of a vocal melody but are mostly unintelligable gibberish. Later he comes up with the lyrics and then he sings it for the final work.
I think the concept vocals for Cherry Waves were once posted on this board, it's really interesting to listen to. Another forum member probably knows what I'm talking about.
Yeah there is footage on a few youtube videos of him doing just that. ATF and WP era comes to mind with him doing that at The Spot. Dunno if they were rehearsing or recording but it can be found
oh you most certainly are speaking of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpHHkPbqgqI
i actually really like the vocals melodies here
I dig the track. It's growing on me a lot since yesterday. Not my favorite thing they have ever done but definitely a solid Deftones song. Nice to hear them properly produced again. But I know they will be much better songs on this album. I've already heard two that are better. I can definitely see the Jane's Addiction comparison but I think I hear that even more on urantia! 😎
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 18, 2020, 06:56 PM
Abe's been indulging in the Belching Beaver
and chino has once again tasted the blood of the unholy swine
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/kc0kqKNFu7v35gPkwB/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47vdr4f7cxni8zxqz8glojiu11sdy6b6novwlbdeil&rid=giphy.gif)
"salsa" ;D ... smh
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 18, 2020, 07:21 PM
I dig the track. It's growing on me a lot since yesterday. Not my favorite thing they have ever done but definitely a solid Deftones song. Nice to hear them properly produced again. But I know they will be much better songs on this album. I've already heard two that are better. I can definitely see the Jane's Addiction comparison but I think I hear that even more on urantia! 😎
i heard that clip and all i'll say is [bleepity_bleep*censored*removed_for_moderation*bleep] sounded good.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 18, 2020, 07:19 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 18, 2020, 06:51 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 04:47 PM
Writing the vocals after the music is recorded is unusual but by no means unique. Cocteau Twins, for example, always created the music before Liz Fraser added her vocals. Maynard James Keenan does it like that with all his projects. It's a longer way of doing it and probably frustrating for the rest of your band who are waiting for the song to be finished. But then it also forces the band to write music that already works on its own instrumentally. Then the vocals come in like an additional instrument on top.
I think Chino said somewhere in an interview that during the songwriting process he adds some simple vocals that gave the idea of a vocal melody but are mostly unintelligable gibberish. Later he comes up with the lyrics and then he sings it for the final work.
I think the concept vocals for Cherry Waves were once posted on this board, it's really interesting to listen to. Another forum member probably knows what I'm talking about.
Yeah there is footage on a few youtube videos of him doing just that. ATF and WP era comes to mind with him doing that at The Spot. Dunno if they were rehearsing or recording but it can be found
oh you most certainly are speaking of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpHHkPbqgqI
i actually really like the vocals melodies here
Yeah this is it, thanks for posting. Just goes to show Chino is collaborating on the songs from start till finish.
Genesis and Ohms are definitely not the strongest cuts for me.
Hold your horses just a little longer. Hell, with the NZ advance and shit, it's like 6 days left, if not 5 and a half, before it hits the web in a form or another.
I love Rosemary.
I love Combat.
I love Self-Titled as a whole.
I have refrained from indulging in Genesis as of yet.
I've listened to Ohms (single)
I've been feeling like this album was going to be a return to the tastiest meat of what made Self Titled amazing.
Some of the comments here are making me feel reinforced in that assessment and I'm in love with it. I hope it pans out.
When Chino said in that interview that he felt there was a component of keyword lyric themes repeating through the album it made me think of all the keywords that are peppered throughout S/T and made it so rich.
I just read the lyrics to Genesis and I'm convinced the song is going to blow me away. Chino writes such astute and unique perspectives and places emphasis on words that other lyricists would consider "filler" or just conjunctive. I fucking love Chino when he's at his best and I feel like "Ohms" is an example of his lyrical potential and Genesis is following suit. There's simplicity in the makeup but complexity in the meaning and it bursts through when you stop and consider the intentions of the words.
It needs one more "I'll show you the way" I mean come on how do they not repeat that one more time and just let it build a little bit more. That part is as good as anything they have written in 20 years. I just want Chino to go up in that upper register one more time and just let it ring out.. then go back to the chorus.. every time I listen to this my brain wants to repeat it...
But Man has this grown on me. I love this band so much. Give me one more I'll show you the Way it's fucking perfect.
End of my bitch rant/ 😩
I'm eating my words, the song has grown on me like gangbusters. How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me? Anyway, never been so glad to be wrong.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:03 PM
How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me?
You mean you're approaching a delayed rebirth?
rebirth?
rebirth?
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:03 PM
I'm eating my words, the song has grown on me like gangbusters. How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me? Anyway, never been so glad to be wrong.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0f431c7be8697ce29d48b3a91dff94fd/tenor.gif)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 07:46 PM
Hold your horses just a little longer. Hell, with the NZ advance and shit, it's like 6 days left, if not 5 and a half, before it hits the web in a form or another.
My prediction is it will leak Tuesday or Wednesday.
Don't listen to Genesis while holding a cup of coffee. I just spilled shit everywhere rofl.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 08:15 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 07:46 PM
Hold your horses just a little longer. Hell, with the NZ advance and shit, it's like 6 days left, if not 5 and a half, before it hits the web in a form or another.
My prediction is it will leak Tuesday or Wednesday.
I think so too.
It will leak on Monday at 2am, trust me!
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:03 PM
I'm eating my words, the song has grown on me like gangbusters. How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me? Anyway, never been so glad to be wrong.
Theres a LOT of ppl in here who 'suffer' the same thing, me included. Some stuff, not all, ofc.
For instance, at first, I didnt like WP, at all. When I first heard Ohms I was like: "hm..ok. Not that good, solid song". Now that I could hear it with Genesis, Im looking at it with a different perspective, for sure.
What's gonna be your ritual for listening to the album, guys? Usually I go on a drive for albums I'm anticipating but this time I think I might do some forest trail wandering.
What makes you say it will leak on Tuesday/Wednesday?
Quote from: Far away on Sep 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:03 PM
I'm eating my words, the song has grown on me like gangbusters. How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me? Anyway, never been so glad to be wrong.
Theres a LOT of ppl in here who 'suffer' the same thing, me included. Some stuff, not all, ofc.
For instance, at first, I didnt like WP, at all. When I first heard Ohms I was like: "hm..ok. Not that good, solid song". Now that I could hear it with Genesis, Im looking at it with a different perspective, for sure.
I've noticed this only happens to me with bands that I have astronomical expectations for. I'll instantly focus on what I dislike, makes me not see the forest for the trees at first so to speak.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 08:23 PM
What makes you say it will leak on Tuesday/Wednesday?
thatdeftkid told him
Imagine if it leaked right now.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 08:23 PM
What makes you say it will leak on Tuesday/Wednesday?
vesanic, are you deleting lemon party posts? haven't seen a single one and it's so weird
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:27 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:03 PM
I'm eating my words, the song has grown on me like gangbusters. How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me? Anyway, never been so glad to be wrong.
Theres a LOT of ppl in here who 'suffer' the same thing, me included. Some stuff, not all, ofc.
For instance, at first, I didnt like WP, at all. When I first heard Ohms I was like: "hm..ok. Not that good, solid song". Now that I could hear it with Genesis, Im looking at it with a different perspective, for sure.
I've noticed this only happens to me with bands that I have astronomical expectations for. I'll instantly focus on what I dislike, makes me not see the forest for the trees at first so to speak.
Yeah. Someone else mentioned in this thread a few pages ago. After so many years, we've created some type of formula of what we like/dislike in their music. Add expectations to the mix, like you said, its kinda hard to focus on the good if things go a different way of what you are expecting, I guess. After a while, with the artbook in hands, or with the whole record, it evolves. Not all the time for me tho. I still dont like most of SNW. Gore was ok. Last record that I recall that I genuinely liked most of the songs in it was DE.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 08:22 PM
What's gonna be your ritual for listening to the album, guys? Usually I go on a drive for albums I'm anticipating but this time I think I might do some forest trail wandering.
First listen will be blasted on the stereo and then follow up through earphones for closer analysis!
The release lines up with a trip I have to the PNW coast. Can't think of a better venue for this album.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 18, 2020, 08:43 PM
The release lines up with a trip I have to the PNW coast. Can't think of a better venue for this album.
Dope! Drove from Portland to Seattle a couple years ago, beautiful country up there.
LG95 mentioned a review a few pages back from metal hammer. I can't find it anywhere online though. Anyone have a link or is there any scans up yet?
it's so good to see everyone so excited right now. I'm refraining from posting that much because I tend to go on long rants lol. what's the album drop so you can be sure I'll be posting a huge review :)
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 08:50 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 18, 2020, 08:43 PM
The release lines up with a trip I have to the PNW coast. Can't think of a better venue for this album.
Dope! Drove from Portland to Seattle a couple years ago, beautiful country up there.
It really is, especially when it's not all on fire...
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 18, 2020, 09:01 PM
LG95 mentioned a review a few pages back from metal hammer. I can't find it anywhere online though. Anyone have a link or is there any scans up yet?
It's not online yet, just in the magazine. I don't have the facility to scan it right now unfortunately. I might type it out if people really want it.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 08:23 PM
What makes you say it will leak on Tuesday/Wednesday?
Big hyped up release, hard to keep a handle on something like that?
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 09:11 PM
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 18, 2020, 09:01 PM
LG95 mentioned a review a few pages back from metal hammer. I can't find it anywhere online though. Anyone have a link or is there any scans up yet?
It's not online yet, just in the magazine. I don't have the facility to scan it right now unfortunately. I might type it out if people really want it.
No worries man! It will be online soon enough I'm sure
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 09:11 PM
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 18, 2020, 09:01 PM
LG95 mentioned a review a few pages back from metal hammer. I can't find it anywhere online though. Anyone have a link or is there any scans up yet?
It's not online yet, just in the magazine. I don't have the facility to scan it right now unfortunately. I might type it out if people really want it.
Any more info on songs we don't know much about?
Quote from: Far away on Sep 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:03 PM
I'm eating my words, the song has grown on me like gangbusters. How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me? Anyway, never been so glad to be wrong.
Theres a LOT of ppl in here who 'suffer' the same thing, me included. Some stuff, not all, ofc.
For instance, at first, I didnt like WP, at all. When I first heard Ohms I was like: "hm..ok. Not that good, solid song". Now that I could hear it with Genesis, Im looking at it with a different perspective, for sure.
I was anticipating white pony as hard as anybody I had just graduated high school and that's all I did was party and listen to music etc. etc. and I was weirded out by white pony at first except for a few tracks like Korea pink Maggit and boys Republic. It took a few months maybe even longer. so I can imagine it's even weirder for anyone newer to the band or someone who didn't hear it until years after it came out but I think generally it's a grower on mostly anyone. Casual fan, hardcore etc
Hope we get some track by track reviews soon
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 18, 2020, 09:35 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 18, 2020, 08:03 PM
I'm eating my words, the song has grown on me like gangbusters. How do they manage to always have that delayed effect on me? Anyway, never been so glad to be wrong.
Theres a LOT of ppl in here who 'suffer' the same thing, me included. Some stuff, not all, ofc.
For instance, at first, I didnt like WP, at all. When I first heard Ohms I was like: "hm..ok. Not that good, solid song". Now that I could hear it with Genesis, Im looking at it with a different perspective, for sure.
I was anticipating white pony as hard as anybody I had just graduated high school and that's all I did was party and listen to music etc. etc. and I was weirded out by white pony at first except for a few tracks like Korea pink Maggit and boys Republic. It took a few months maybe even longer. so I can imagine it's even weirder for anyone newer to the band or someone who didn't hear it until years after it came out but I think generally it's a grower on mostly anyone. Casual fan, hardcore etc
The more I thought about it, it wasn't until I think the following year that I discovered what was inside of it and I've never stopped playing it since. And then the same thing happened with The self titled. But that one didn't take as long and is now my favorite if I had to choose
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 08:22 PM
What's gonna be your ritual for listening to the album, guys? Usually I go on a drive for albums I'm anticipating but this time I think I might do some forest trail wandering.
same, I'll be driving up to a nearby lakehouse on Friday (my bday). Having it release on my birthday is like God saying "HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LET THERE BE AWESOMENESS" so I can't ruin that. Probably do some hiking as well. I can't listen to it at home since I'll want to listen at decibel levels that will for sure get the cops called.
I would kill for a track by track review right now, it would make these last few days of waiting so much easier
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 06:55 PM
8/10 in Metal Hammer. This part is especially interesting:
"(This Link Is Dead) is probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record."
Well if that's not an incredibly exciting description for a song, I don't know what is. Damn, I can't wait for this album. I love track reviews and descriptions, they make me so hyped. I think there was one for DE and I remember just imagining what these songs would sound like based on these vague-ish descriptions. That and tracklistings in general are the two biggest non-musical things that send my excitement into impatience levels. Especially with a band like Deftones who have unusual and intriguing titles.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 08:22 PM
What's gonna be your ritual for listening to the album, guys? Usually I go on a drive for albums I'm anticipating but this time I think I might do some forest trail wandering.
I'll just be listening in my room on my headphones. I remember when we were waiting for DE to leak, and I'd been awake for almost 24 hours, refreshing the page constantly because we KNEW it was coming any second. And I'd finally decided to give up and get some sleep, aaaand of course the leak came out. I told myself I'd listen to it once, but instead I listened to the whole album like three times, so by the time I went to bed, I fell asleep to these brand new songs playing in my head lol. It was nice but I really hope I'm not as sleep-deprived as that this time around.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 18, 2020, 10:47 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 06:55 PM
8/10 in Metal Hammer. This part is especially interesting:
"(This Link Is Dead) is probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record."
Well if that's not an incredibly exciting description for a song, I don't know what is. Damn, I can't wait for this album. I love track reviews and descriptions, they make me so hyped. I think there was one for DE and I remember just imagining what these songs would sound like based on these vague-ish descriptions. That and tracklistings in general are the two biggest non-musical things that send my excitement into impatience levels. Especially with a band like Deftones who have unusual and intriguing titles.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 08:22 PM
What's gonna be your ritual for listening to the album, guys? Usually I go on a drive for albums I'm anticipating but this time I think I might do some forest trail wandering.
I'll just be listening in my room on my headphones. I remember when we were waiting for DE to leak, and I'd been awake for almost 24 hours, refreshing the page constantly because we KNEW it was coming any second. And I'd finally decided to give up and get some sleep, aaaand of course the leak came out. I told myself I'd listen to it once, but instead I listened to the whole album like three times, so by the time I went to bed, I fell asleep to these brand new songs playing in my head lol. It was nice but I really hope I'm not as sleep-deprived as that this time around.
Well thats awesome for you. Actullay sounds like it was a great experience. Hopefully same level for u this rime around... for everyone
Have anyone of you guys received Genesis for download (those who have pre ordered the digital album from Deftones website) ? Or will it release the whole album on 25th ?
Waiting for SNW was the craziest experience I ever had waiting for an album. I was refreshing hourly for days and frequenting every thread, hunting down every morsel of info. Thankfully I've calmed down a bit since then :P
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 18, 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: mono on Sep 18, 2020, 04:20 AM
The video is meh, maybe I've just expected more.
rule #1. never expect something out of a deftones video. ever.
Sir, you're right
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 06:55 PM
8/10 in Metal Hammer. This part is especially interesting:
"(This Link Is Dead) is probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record."
Wow, that's exciting. I'll still try to keep my expectations in check a little bit because I remember a DE review acting like CMND/CTRL was the most brutal song they had ever written (fun song, but no) and SL saying the Gore title track was super brutal (noooooo, lol).
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:29 PM
Have anyone of you guys received Genesis for download (those who have pre ordered the digital album from Deftones website) ? Or will it release the whole album on 25th ?
Can someone help me with this please. I've asked twice in this sub and no one has bothered.
Nope, no email for a Genesis download.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:46 PM
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:29 PM
Have anyone of you guys received Genesis for download (those who have pre ordered the digital album from Deftones website) ? Or will it release the whole album on 25th ?
Can someone help me with this please. I've asked twice in this sub and no one has bothered.
Not helping yourself to get any help with this attitude.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:46 PM
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:29 PM
Have anyone of you guys received Genesis for download (those who have pre ordered the digital album from Deftones website) ? Or will it release the whole album on 25th ?
Can someone help me with this please. I've asked twice in this sub and no one has bothered.
If you pre ordered the record on iTunes it should be there. Not sure about others.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 18, 2020, 11:53 PM
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:46 PM
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:29 PM
Have anyone of you guys received Genesis for download (those who have pre ordered the digital album from Deftones website) ? Or will it release the whole album on 25th ?
Can someone help me with this please. I've asked twice in this sub and no one has bothered.
If you pre ordered the record on iTunes it should be there. Not sure about others.
I pre ordered it from deftones website
Quote from: buflen on Sep 18, 2020, 11:49 PM
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:46 PM
Quote from: pannch on Sep 18, 2020, 11:29 PM
Have anyone of you guys received Genesis for download (those who have pre ordered the digital album from Deftones website) ? Or will it release the whole album on 25th ?
Can someone help me with this please. I've asked twice in this sub and no one has bothered.
Not helping yourself to get any help with this attitude.
There are 2 ppl who respectfully replied to my comment, and they didn't come up with a pseudo smart answer like you have. So it says more abt your attitude rather than mine.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 11:49 PM
Nope, no email for a Genesis download.
Thank you
Safe to assume Genesis is the heaviest song? If so, for those who have heard, are there other heavy-ish songs?
Quote from: pannch on Sep 19, 2020, 12:12 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2020, 11:49 PM
Nope, no email for a Genesis download.
Thank you
I had that same problem. If its not showing up in Apple Music, go into iTunes Store and find the album. Hit the LISTEN button up top and it will switch back over to Apple Music and show you the Cloud/Download link for the song
edit: fuck I didnt see that part about you ordering it from the website.
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 19, 2020, 12:45 AM
Safe to assume Genesis is the heaviest song? If so, for those who have heard, are there other heavy-ish songs?
Word from the press is that This Link Is Dead is also heavy.
Anthony fantano thought Genesis was absolute dogshit. Guy actually got salty when people voted off mariah carey 🤣🤣🤣
Not having a dig but it's beyond me why anyone's interested in what one guy who doesn't even like the band thinks.
People share press and reviews about the band here alot, he falls into that catagory, there are plenty of others here who follow him, has gotten me into a number of bands and artists. Hopefully that explains things.
Edit: I don't think he has expressed his opinion on genesis yet, that comment may have been tongue in cheek, he recently retweeted a link to genesis however which I took as approval but I could be wrong.
I dont care what Fantano says... he is a world class asshole.
ok cool, happy to move on though instead of potentially derailing the thread based on a random first time post from here on though haha
omg, thats true hahaha, nothing against him. i just cant stand fantano.
I don't want to have a slight at Fantano personally. My criticisms about his work are more to do with the form and aesthetic he takes with it, and broadly how I think his whole brand manages to encapsulate everything I find distasteful and shallow about internet music culture. That's why I don't consider him in the same category as traditional, music press.
The actual content and thought he expresses in his reviews is of very little interest to me, either way.
I was pretty surprised he liked Ohms. I care about his opinion only as much to see how much it resonates with the general consensus, being the influencer that he is. It's not interesting beyond belief, just some piece of info. I'd be curious to hear what he has to say about Genesis.
Yeah I agree with a lot of his reviews and then I totally disagree with some as well. I thought he was very hard on the new tool record. I think there's a lot of great songs on that album. And I was also surprised that he enjoyed Ohms as much as he did...
And I'm sorry but Death Grips and Daughters are not worthy or perfect 10 scores.. not that impressed
Apparently This Link Is Dead is the heaviest they've been since WGTB. Which I find hard to believe, given there's been Rapture and Rats! in between. I seriously can't imagine 2020 Deftones going that hard. We'll see though!
I won't spoil it but wait until this one song (not This Link Is Dead, I haven't heard it). This one damn song. This one will leave a mark (not because it's especially heavy or anything, it's not about that debate). I know there's a whole wave of people that feel like Deftones lost "it" after Chi's accident, and I can see what they mean. I think this one song will make them feel something again. Maybe not as intensely as pre-Sergio stuff, but it will get their intention, I'm 100% positive about it. It did with me. :)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2020, 07:46 PM
Genesis and Ohms are definitely not the strongest cuts for me.
Hold your horses just a little longer. Hell, with the NZ advance and shit, it's like 6 days left, if not 5 and a half, before it hits the web in a form or another.
This is very encouraging. Thank you...
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 19, 2020, 02:58 AM
Apparently This Link Is Dead is the heaviest they've been since WGTB. Which I find hard to believe, given there's been Rapture and Rats! in between. I seriously can't imagine 2020 Deftones going that hard. We'll see though!
I won't spoil it but wait until this one song. This one damn song. This one will leave a mark (not because it's especially heavy or anything, it's not about that debate). I know there's a whole wave of people that feel like Deftones lost "it" after Chi's accident, and I can see what they mean. I think this one song will make them feel something again. Maybe not as intensely as pre-Sergio stuff, but it will get their intention, I'm 100% positive about it. It did with me. :)
Now this is something to get excited about.
Chino was kind of right when he said heavy is subjective, although I don't think anyone would disagree that WGTB is one of the most brutal songs they've ever written. For me, it kind of means he has to scream for the majority of the track or at least let out some blood-curdling screams at parts like the outros of Bloody Cape and Royal.
Genesis is pretty damn heavy to me, especially for latter-era 'tones, but it seems like not everyone agrees.
Also, I'm gonna try to not go into This Link Is Dead expecting WGTB 2.0 because I'd only be setting up myself for disappointment. Gotta let it be its own song.
I'm hoping its like WGTB because I love that song but I dont see how it could be any heavier than that song was in terms of vocal ability. Can't wait to find out though, I've seen a reviewer say its one of his favorite tracks on the album.
Quote from: Prty on Sep 19, 2020, 01:28 AM
People share press and reviews about the band here alot, he falls into that catagory, there are plenty of others here who follow him, has gotten me into a number of bands and artists. Hopefully that explains things.
Edit: I don't think he has expressed his opinion on genesis yet, that comment may have been tongue in cheek, he recently retweeted a link to genesis however which I took as approval but I could be wrong.
he is streaming every friday. so he probably gave his opinion there.
Okay, looking at the chorus.fm thread on Ohms and a guy named Drew Beringer (who I think owns chorus.fm) has an advance copy. Here's what he said on This Link Is Dead:
"it's heavy but it's not WGTB heavy - the comparison that review is making might be more towards how Chino's screams sound"
Some of his other thoughts on the album:
"some of the best Deftones songs ever are on this album - it's not so much a return to roots, it's more that the energy and excitement is back."
"this album is essentially all the best parts of SNW, KNY, and Gore put together."
"changes every day but my favorites right now are Ceremony Pompeji This Link Is Dead and Radiant City"
"pompeji will be regarded as an all time great Deftones song."
Youtube forced me to listen to the intro of Genesis because it autoplayed it after the song Lift Off by Mike Shinoda. At least I stopped it before it started for real. Kinda annoying. fuck you youtube.
Given how much talk of advance copies there's been and the amount of reviews out there, it's amazing it hasn't leaked.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 19, 2020, 04:13 AM
Given how much talk of advance copies there's been and the amount of reviews out there, it's amazing it hasn't leaked.
KNY never leaked either until the day before right? Maybe that might be the case here too
KNY leaked a few days before its release.
@Inkblades Holy, if my excitement wasn't through the roof already...
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 03:55 AM
"this album is essentially all the best parts of SNW, KNY, and Gore put together."
This part in particular concerns me quite a bit. I do enjoy Koi, but these are definitely my 3 lowest rated Deftones records
All the Deftones records up to White Pony have leaked at least a few days before the release if I'm correct.
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 19, 2020, 05:02 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 03:55 AM
"this album is essentially all the best parts of SNW, KNY, and Gore put together."
This part in particular concerns me quite a bit. I do enjoy Koi, but these are definitely my 3 lowest rated Deftones records
Lol I knew I shouldn't have posted that quote. Honestly, man, everyone is gonna have different takes on how the album reminds them of this or that. I've seen Genesis compared to damn near every Deftones song under the sun in the last day and I was doing it myself. I maybe need to stop doing that. At the end of the day, don't read TOO much into what people say it sounds like and form your own take when you hear it yourself. Overall he seemed to really dig the album and that should be the most important takeaway.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 05:19 AM
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 19, 2020, 05:02 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 03:55 AM
"this album is essentially all the best parts of SNW, KNY, and Gore put together."
This part in particular concerns me quite a bit. I do enjoy Koi, but these are definitely my 3 lowest rated Deftones records
Lol I knew I shouldn't have posted that quote. Honestly, man, everyone is gonna have different takes on how the album reminds them of this or that. I've seen Genesis compared to damn near every Deftones song under the in the last day and I was doing it myself. I maybe need to stop doing that. At the end of the day, don't read TOO much into what people say it sounds like and form your own take when you hear it yourself. Overall he seemed to really dig the album and that should be the most important takeaway.
Yeah, I agree with you there. That's fair. And even if they're my least favorite records, he did say the best parts of them, and that would still be really sweet. Either way, I appreciate you posting that btw, and I am trying to stay positive. I'm stoked for the record!
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 03:55 AM
"this album is essentially all the best parts of SNW, KNY, and Gore put together."
My bottom three Deftones records. :( but I ain't that worried. I already love what I've heard so far...
Quote from: buflen on Sep 19, 2020, 04:09 AM
Youtube forced me to listen to the intro of Genesis because it autoplayed it after the song Lift Off by Mike Shinoda. At least I stopped it before it started for real. Kinda annoying. fuck you youtube.
haha. That's what I was afraid would happen to me until I just decided to listen. Couldn't pass up an epic moment like a Deftones video premiere. How often do we get those
Can you imagine if this Anthony guy had an account in here? That would be funny...Btw, I have no idea who he is. Not like his opinion matter to me, anyway. This whole 'influencer' thing is a joke to me.
Do I want fans to like it? Sure, but if the record turns out to be insanely good for me, idgaf about anyone elses opinions, let alone a bunch of online randoms.
thats a healthy perspective to have
if fantano does come here i just wanna say this is for his negative Deftones reviews
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All I gotta say about Fantano right now is I am 100% convinced that dude is a huge cokehead. I've watched some of his recent streams and the amount of times he does the sniffing nose touch is alarming.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 19, 2020, 02:58 AM
Apparently This Link Is Dead is the heaviest they've been since WGTB.
man don't play with my emotions
from now on anyone who mentions this fandango character will get a two hour ban
So... im the only one that has really huge high hopes for pompeji? i mean...really really high hopes, like when i first heard minerva or even rosemary. What a feeling, i miss those days.
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 19, 2020, 06:36 AM
from now on anyone who mentions this fandango character will get a two hour ban
hahahha
The heaviness on Genesis for me is that overall mountainous sound that other bands like Gojira have. Not necessarily Metal heavy but weight heavy - almost like a landscape or horizon
Guys! Guys. What the frick? Second listen rn. There's a guitar solo. There's a guitar solo in my Deftones song. lol
Boy o boy, can't believe they've made me like them again. To me this actually sounds like a fusion of White Pony and Selftitled, every instrument has its place, and man the structure and texture! It just feels really gritty and tight.. and the opposite of boring, it gets me actually excited to listen to the song again while listening to it y'know? I've missed that these last couple of records.
Just to let you know where I'm coming from:
I've liked SNW overall, but the mixing was very off to me. Lots of songs I like tho.
Diamond Eyes sounded and felt like them getting back together (obviously), but again the mix was just not Deftones. To me it's too clean and harsh sounding, and has almost to texture because of that.
Koi No Yokan was actually very surprising to me, it felt like a sibling to Diamond Eyes, but with the added texture. So spacey and lush, but it sorta kinda feels like a pop record? It has so many different flavors, and loud (meaning the loudness war) like a pop album.
Gore was just a mess and made me forget about the entirely.
Ohms was so disappointing to me, still is! Well, actually now that I know what I was expecting.. I've had expected that the album would finish with a "simpler song" that feels optimistic. In that context it's an ok song, bc I can see that it fits an important role. But would I listen to this as a song? Nope
But fuck me man, this? Genesis sounds Feiticeira-like, but with the mixing of a Selftitled continuation! A black White Pony! Always craved for something like that, but totally not expected this to actually happen anymore. Thanks Terry!
The lyrics are very familiar sounding (meaning the use of words and phrases), but the content? So positive, reflecting and still angry. Fucking loooooving it! Excitinggggggggg
And the music video looks like the Deftones version of the Meshuggah - Rational Gaze music video. I love that video, so surprise!I I like this video too.
I don't get the comparisons to S/T at all. To me it just sounds like a continuation of KNY.
One thing in genesis, that makes me think of kny, is when chino sings "There's no sense to what I'm beiiiiin.... SOLD!
Same delivery as in poltergeist when he sings "I think you keep playing to play knowing that iiiii.... FEEL SICK! That slight pause and then the punch is so great .
Love it in both songs
Hi, I'm new to Sharing Lungs, I've been reading the forum from quite some time now.
I'm sure this new album will become one of my favourites. Genesis is top notch Deftones, Ohms is great too. I haven't listened to the leaks, but I read LG95's post about This Link is dead. WGTB is one of my very favourites. Only good news so far about the album.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 18, 2020, 09:11 PM
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 18, 2020, 09:01 PM
LG95 mentioned a review a few pages back from metal hammer. I can't find it anywhere online though. Anyone have a link or is there any scans up yet?
It's not online yet, just in the magazine. I don't have the facility to scan it right now unfortunately. I might type it out if people really want it.
I would be really interested in reading this too. Maybe you can just post a photo of it or scan the page using Adobe scan for example. I'm getting totally obsessed about what is coming next.
Is it just me or can you hear frank throughout the verses of the song? that filler synth he throws in..
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 19, 2020, 10:18 AM
I don't get the comparisons to S/T at all. To me it just sounds like a continuation of KNY.
It's the production and vocal effects I think. It's not quite as dark. And it's not a carbon copy of S/T. But there are elements. S/T and KNY had a baby while Gore watched from the distance.
finally listened to Genesis. At first I wasn't sure what to make of it (which is always a good sign). The 2nd time, my hair started to stand during the verse. The sound of that guitar is just immense. Not sure how I feel about the chorus, but I feel it's going to grow on me. Ohms played right after that, and I realized that I really do love that song after giving it a bit of space.
I really do feel like this album is going to be sound great as one listen as opposed to stand along songs - cannot wait for next week!
Did anyone else think of Tool's 'Pneuma' during the "salsa" part in Genesis?
Quote from: Sicario on Sep 19, 2020, 11:58 AM
S/T and KNY had a baby while Gore watched from the distance.
kinda like when girly, mediocre looking kny got fucked by true alpha beast s/t, the perv/weirdo gore was hiding behind a curtain in the bedroom, jacking off to what it saw
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 19, 2020, 10:18 AM
I don't get the comparisons to S/T at all. To me it just sounds like a continuation of KNY.
It is, and I know it doesn't make much sense I guess. It's just what I had expected what another Terry album would sound like today. It sounds like every album Terry would do with "the guys". KNY? My first album was Around The Fur and man, I've tried to like Cherry Waves and Sextape and Rosemary, UGH Rosemary.. that disgusting ass outro, it feels so useless and tacked on.
Without Terry they were great, but Genesis sounds like "oh, they are peaking again". I just really, really love this. It's thiccccc and epic and swaggy and I want moar
I can definitely hear KNY in these first 2 songs.
I like both songs, but I think I prefer Ohms to Genesis. At first I wasn't so into Ohms, but it has grown on me.
Quote from: lahemi on Sep 19, 2020, 12:40 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 19, 2020, 10:18 AM
I don't get the comparisons to S/T at all. To me it just sounds like a continuation of KNY.
It is, and I know it doesn't make much sense I guess. It's just what I had expected what another Terry album would sound like today. It sounds like every album Terry would do with "the guys". KNY? My first album was Around The Fur and man, I've tried to like Cherry Waves and Sextape and Rosemary, UGH Rosemary.. that disgusting ass outro, it feels so useless and tacked on.
Without Terry they were great, but Genesis sounds like "oh, they are peaking again". I just really, really love this. It's thiccccc and epic and swaggy and I want moar
Haha WOW
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 19, 2020, 06:39 AM
So... im the only one that has really huge high hopes for pompeji? i mean...really really high hopes, like when i first heard minerva or even rosemary. What a feeling, i miss those days.
Because of the song title? Where do u get the high hopes from?
BTW i do not mean ti ask in a shitty way, just curious if u heard a leak....
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 19, 2020, 01:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 19, 2020, 06:39 AM
So... im the only one that has really huge high hopes for pompeji? i mean...really really high hopes, like when i first heard minerva or even rosemary. What a feeling, i miss those days.
Because of the song title? Where do u get the high hopes from?
It has been teased by a reviewer in the previous page.
Quote from: Crisp X on Sep 19, 2020, 01:56 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 19, 2020, 01:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 19, 2020, 06:39 AM
So... im the only one that has really huge high hopes for pompeji? i mean...really really high hopes, like when i first heard minerva or even rosemary. What a feeling, i miss those days.
Because of the song title? Where do u get the high hopes from?
It has been teased by a reviewer in the previous page.
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Ok yeah thanks
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview
"Deftones have the type of hyper-passionate fan community befitting pop's biggest artists — Wakefield (band manager) says that die-hard supporters sniffed out the source code being updated on the band's official website prior to the announcement of the new album in August"
Guys, we're famous LOL
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 19, 2020, 12:30 PM
Did anyone else think of Tool's 'Pneuma' during the "salsa" part in Genesis?
Absolutely
Quote from: mono on Sep 19, 2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview
"Deftones have the type of hyper-passionate fan community befitting pop's biggest artists — Wakefield (band manager) says that die-hard supporters sniffed out the source code being updated on the band's official website prior to the announcement of the new album in August"
Guys, we're famous LOL
"Chino Moreno woke up in the middle of a late-August night and couldn't fall back asleep. He was thinking about a chicken coop. "I was just sitting there, calculating measurements in my head, wondering if this design's going to work," says the longtime Deftones frontman."
What the actual fuck? Chino designing a chicken coop must be the most random shit I've ever read. 2020, huh?
Quote from: Far away on Sep 19, 2020, 03:12 PM
Quote from: mono on Sep 19, 2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview
"Deftones have the type of hyper-passionate fan community befitting pop's biggest artists — Wakefield (band manager) says that die-hard supporters sniffed out the source code being updated on the band's official website prior to the announcement of the new album in August"
Guys, we're famous LOL
"Chino Moreno woke up in the middle of a late-August night and couldn't fall back asleep. He was thinking about a chicken coop. "I was just sitting there, calculating measurements in my head, wondering if this design's going to work," says the longtime Deftones frontman."
What the actual fuck? Chino designing a chicken coop must be the most random shit I've ever read. 2020, huh?
Yeah, that part was hilarious!
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 19, 2020, 06:36 AM
from now on anyone who mentions this fandango character will get a two hour ban
Scaramouche, Scaramouche
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 19, 2020, 04:01 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 19, 2020, 06:36 AM
from now on anyone who mentions this fandango character will get a two hour ban
Scaramouche, Scaramouche
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Galileo Galileo figaro
I know it's down to my own preferences so it may sound a bit dumb, but which bundle would you recommend for pre-order? I was never really into merch but might just cave this time around
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 19, 2020, 05:16 PM
I know it's down to my own preferences so it may sound a bit dumb, but which bundle would you recommend for pre-order? I was never really into merch but might just cave this time around
I just bought the exclusive vinyl LP with the limited zine, I wasn't that deep on any of the apparel.
What if Ohms is just one big concept album about Chino's chicken coop?
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
What if Ohms is just one big concept album about Chino's chicken coop?
Koi No Yolkan
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 19, 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
What if Ohms is just one big concept album about Chino's chicken coop?
Koi No Yolkan
Chicken hOhms
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
What if Ohms is just one big concept album about Chino's chicken coop?
lmao
Is Pompeji pronounced Pom-pay-hee? Or Pom-pay-jee? ???
Theres a Pompei (italy) or Pompeii, but a quick search didnt find it
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 19, 2020, 06:46 PM
Is Pompeji pronounced Pom-pay-hee? Or Pom-pay-jee? ???
It's the german spelling of the city of Pompeii and it should be pronounced pom-pay-ee. There are several other languages writing it that way too, though
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 19, 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
What if Ohms is just one big concept album about Chino's chicken coop?
Koi No Yolkan
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 19, 2020, 06:43 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 19, 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
What if Ohms is just one big concept album about Chino's chicken coop?
Koi No Yolkan
Chicken hOhms
Haha, nice.
OH, CAN YOU TASTE YOUR EGGS!?!?!?!
CHICKEN! CHICKEN!
HOW WILL YOU SPEND YOUR TIME!?!?!?!
BUILD COOPS! COOPS!
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 19, 2020, 06:55 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 19, 2020, 06:46 PM
Is Pompeji pronounced Pom-pay-hee? Or Pom-pay-jee? ???
Germans write it pompeji and it should be pronounced pom-pay-ee
Thank you :)
I have this random thought that Pompeji reminds me of Korea.....I imagine Terry and Stef ragging on him again when he dropped the name on the dry erase board like they did with Korea ;D
Quote from: lahemi on Sep 19, 2020, 12:40 PM
My first album was Around The Fur and man, I've tried to like Cherry Waves and Sextape and Rosemary, UGH Rosemary.. that disgusting ass outro, it feels so useless and tacked on.
What the literal f is this? Rosemary is amazing and easily the best from Koi
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 19, 2020, 10:18 AM
I don't get the comparisons to S/T at all. To me it just sounds like a continuation of KNY.
Agreed... I'm also still searching for a "salsa" section lol
Rosemary is great until it completely reuses that repetitive Diamond Eyes riff at the end (if you're going to borrow from yourself, Stef, at least borrow a better riff lol). I like the trippy Smashing Pumpkins-like outro riff but it goes on for a little too long. Still a very good song, though.
I saw a comment on the Genesis video that said its like their older stuff married their newer stuff and I agree with that. The chorus is very KNY sounding but everything else harkens back to their darker, heavier days IMO.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 19, 2020, 06:55 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 19, 2020, 06:46 PM
Is Pompeji pronounced Pom-pay-hee? Or Pom-pay-jee? ???
Germans write it pompeji and it should be pronounced pom-pay-ee
Man, when I saw that title for the first time I just imagined it was a blend of the words "Pompeii" and "Jumanji" like is if it were mystical game like Jumanji but the only crazy effect that happened was that it created the volcanic destruction of that town to the players. What the fuck is with me?
Thanks for the knowledge.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 19, 2020, 05:16 PM
I know it's down to my own preferences so it may sound a bit dumb, but which bundle would you recommend for pre-order? I was never really into merch but might just cave this time around
I've bought all versions but no clothes this time. Anyway, any version with the clear LP + zine would be good and with limited availability.
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Sep 19, 2020, 08:49 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 19, 2020, 06:55 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 19, 2020, 06:46 PM
Is Pompeji pronounced Pom-pay-hee? Or Pom-pay-jee? ???
Germans write it pompeji and it should be pronounced pom-pay-ee
Man, when I saw that title for the first time I just imagined it was a blend of the words "Pompeii" and "Jumanji" like is if it were mystical game like Jumanji but the only crazy effect that happened was that it created the volcanic destruction of that town to the players. What the fuck is with me?
Thanks for the knowledge.
Now you got me wondering why they chose that name in the German spelling. There has to be a reason I mean come on. And this is nothing against Germans because I am German but it's so random now that I know that. I love the idea though even more and I've heard that it's going to b revered as a Deftones classic today even though it's one person's opinion I can't wait to hear this one. Guys I really have a feeling this album is going to be top dog to a lot of people and I really think that everyone is going to like it as far as Deftones fans go. The hype just ran over the top...
I think Pompeji and Spell of Mathematics will be top 10 songs.
It's an illusion, it's all an illusion.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 03:55 AM
Okay, looking at the chorus.fm thread on Ohms and a guy named Drew Beringer (who I think owns chorus.fm) has an advance copy. Here's what he said on This Link Is Dead:
"it's heavy but it's not WGTB heavy - the comparison that review is making might be more towards how Chino's screams sound"
Some of his other thoughts on the album:
"some of the best Deftones songs ever are on this album - it's not so much a return to roots, it's more that the energy and excitement is back."
"this album is essentially all the best parts of SNW, KNY, and Gore put together."
"changes every day but my favorites right now are Ceremony Pompeji This Link Is Dead and Radiant City"
"pompeji will be regarded as an all time great Deftones song."
To be honest, the idea that his screams might be the heaviest since WGTB is basically higher praise than musically, since even now they're perfectly capable of heavy music.
Obviously all of this is very subjective, but still gets me hyped for the album. Everyone's favourite Gore song was Rubicon and it's my least favourite from the album lol (except for Xenon, but I still enjoy that song a lot). There's no guarantee that an album will be as good to every individual as its reviews make it sound, but definitely gives you a more concrete idea of what to expect, which is cool.
As for Pompeji, I thought it was a Japanese word but I googled it and all I could find was "Pompeii" so I assumed Google thought it was a typo. Didn't know it was the German word for Pompeii, that's pretty cool. I hope an interviewer asks why that title/spelling.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 PM
I think Pompeji and Spell of Mathematics will be top 10 songs.
Can you say if either of those are slow songs like a Sextape type?
I hope we get one of those slower atmospheric songs on the album 🤞
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 19, 2020, 11:14 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 PM
I think Pompeji and Spell of Mathematics will be top 10 songs.
Can you say if either of those are slow songs like a Sextape type?
I hope we get one of those slower atmospheric songs on the album 🤞
Nah, they might have slower parts, but I think Pompeji is closer to sextape than anything else, but it's still incomparable.. I've only heard about a minute of Pompeji to be fair, so I don't know how it starts or ends.
I hope it's a top 10 song for you then.
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
This link is not to be trusted 😅
I get the same vibes
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
I might have been bamboozled
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
;D
Every song on Ohms will be in my top 10 favorite song of Ohms.
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Those are some tasty snippets. Making my mouth water
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Holy shit, I think we may have a new Digital Bath here O_O
OHMS IN THE WILD! NOT mine btw... someone uploaded the image to facebook.
(https://i.imgur.com/aRCjaFp.jpg)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 20, 2020, 02:17 AM
OHMS IN THE WILD! NOT mine btw... someone uploaded the image to facebook.
Well I guess the leak is coming sooner than later
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 20, 2020, 02:17 AM
OHMS IN THE WILD! NOT mine btw... someone uploaded the image to facebook.
(https://i.imgur.com/aRCjaFp.jpg)
It's a matter of time...
I'm trying to find out if they can get a clearer picture of at least the lyrics sheet lol
Didn't Gore leak from Vinyl as well?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 20, 2020, 02:30 AM
I'm trying to find out if they can get a clearer picture of at least the lyrics sheet lol
What group?
oh how exciting, looks like nice artwork all over
Quote from: mono on Sep 20, 2020, 02:32 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 20, 2020, 02:30 AM
I'm trying to find out if they can get a clearer picture of at least the lyrics sheet lol
What group?
DEFTONES on facebook.
Ffs bebo. When you said someone would post that link again it wasn't supposed to be you
Quote from: mono on Sep 20, 2020, 02:29 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 20, 2020, 02:17 AM
OHMS IN THE WILD! NOT mine btw... someone uploaded the image to facebook.
(https://i.imgur.com/aRCjaFp.jpg)
It's a matter of time...
Yeah, won't be long now. So is the jacket metallic or just glossy?
The shrink wrap is glossy
Yeah I see it now. Just couldn't gather my thoughts after seeing that beauty
Cant see shit, but im excited. When do you think it will leak? my bet is tuesday, wednesday at the last.
Well Thursday morning in US is officially out in new Zealand, so only 4-5 days!
Damn, you're right. If it leak in poor quality or bad vinyl rip off like gore did, i will wait with a big smile across my face.
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 20, 2020, 04:02 AM
Damn, you're right. If it leak in poor quality or bad vinyl rip off like gore did, i will wait with a big smile across my face.
Same here, I've already made that mistake with Gore. Not again
The Gore vinyl leak was that bad?
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 19, 2020, 11:14 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 PM
I think Pompeji and Spell of Mathematics will be top 10 songs.
Can you say if either of those are slow songs like a Sextape type?
I hope we get one of those slower atmospheric songs on the album 🤞
Pompeji is sort of like a mixture of Sextape and Cherry Waves except a little creepier and sinister.
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 20, 2020, 04:11 AM
The Gore vinyl leak was that bad?
I remember it was bad, it had the classic hiss that vinyl has, but this was layered or combined with another hiss due to poor quality from the rip off...honestly i dont know how they ripped it off, but it was bad. Also remember not liking many of the songs and thinking "wll, maybe it cause the poor quality" but when it finally came out and got my hands and ears on it, i noticed it was the whole mix/production, and that was a problem. So imagine the bad mix gore had and a poor quality rip off together...not nice haha.
I endend up loving gore tho.
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 20, 2020, 04:11 AM
The Gore vinyl leak was that bad?
it took a few trys to get it right
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 04:16 AM
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 19, 2020, 11:14 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 PM
I think Pompeji and Spell of Mathematics will be top 10 songs.
Can you say if either of those are slow songs like a Sextape type?
I hope we get one of those slower atmospheric songs on the album 🤞
Pompeji is sort of like a mixture of Sextape and Cherry Waves except a little creepier and sinister.
Cherry waves is still one of my favorite songs off all time, so shit must be good as hell. Im ready.
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 20, 2020, 04:11 AM
The Gore vinyl leak was that bad?
It was super murky and compressed sounding with some pops and shit making it worse. A FLAC rip started floating around a few days later though and of course after we heard the offical release we realized most of it was from the production lol.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 04:16 AM
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 19, 2020, 11:14 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 PM
I think Pompeji and Spell of Mathematics will be top 10 songs.
Can you say if either of those are slow songs like a Sextape type?
I hope we get one of those slower atmospheric songs on the album 🤞
Pompeji is sort of like a mixture of Sextape and Cherry Waves except a little creepier and sinister.
Did you just describe the perfect Deftones song?
You'll have to decide that one for yourself.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 04:42 AM
You'll have to decide that one for yourself.
I will do that very soon my friend
Hey is discord still working? can anyone send me a link pls?
Don't encourage anyone to rip it from the vinyl.
Oh hell no, i just need to do some talking about pompeji if thats allowed.
Wasn't aimed at anyone specific, dude. You're good.
This may have been discussed before, but does anyone know exactly what the "zine" entails with the vinyl pre-order of Ohms? I wonder how it differs from a normal lyric sheet insert. The price is nearly double from the black or indie gold versions so you'd think it'd be somewhat substantial.
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 20, 2020, 04:56 AM
Hey is discord still working? can anyone send me a link pls?
Wait. SL have a discord server?
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Aaaaaaaah ! Finally !!!! And from bebo too.....
Man, that got me straight in the member berries.... :)
Good to see that you're still alive and kicking bebo...
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 07:03 AM
Wasn't aimed at anyone specific, dude. You're good.
Let me buy you a beer.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 20, 2020, 07:04 AM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 20, 2020, 04:56 AM
Hey is discord still working? can anyone send me a link pls?
Wait. SL have a discord server?
I would call it more of a spoiler server LOL. it's basically all of the most impatient people over there talking about the leaks they heard, including me. I like it cause it gives me an outlet to talk about what I've heard without spoiling things on this board.
also I don't think any moderators or owners of sharing lungs are actually part of the Discord.in fact I think they have actively avoided us LOL. I understand though
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 20, 2020, 07:17 AM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 20, 2020, 07:04 AM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 20, 2020, 04:56 AM
Hey is discord still working? can anyone send me a link pls?
Wait. SL have a discord server?
I would call it more of a spoiler server LOL. it's basically all of the most impatient people over there talking about the leaks they heard, including me. I like it cause it gives me an outlet to talk about what I've heard without spoiling things on this board.
also I don't think any moderators or owners of sharing lungs are actually part of the Discord.in fact I think they have actively avoided us LOL. I understand though
I actually had a very nice talk with you just the other day.
hey I'm on my phone at the moment didn't even notice your username. yeah we're still hanging out over there! https://discord.gg/kNYbePf
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 20, 2020, 07:11 AM
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Aaaaaaaah ! Finally !!!! And from bebo too.....
Man, that got me straight in the member berries.... :)
Good to see that you're still alive and kicking bebo...
Good to see YOU are alive and kicking as well, dude. :)
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Wow. Im really getting a Knife Party vibe from it!
Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Damn, I am not feeling these snippets at all. Honestly, they suck dick.*
*I made this same joke the last time someone posted that.
Man, we're so close now. Five days max. Eight totally new 'Tones songs to dig into, next to the two already released songs. So excited.
Ive listened to Genesis and Ohms back to back a few times and I think it really gives me a look inside of the 'sound' of the album. There's a certain fullnes or richness I hear that I havent heared since ST/SNW imo. While those arent even my favorite records, I am very glad that the sound is so lush. Combined with some of the in-your-face-rock from Diamond Eyes and some experimentation from KNY this could be very special indeed.
We also know the tracklist and total runtime and its clear that this is a pretty fast record. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those records you'll want to play again and again, over and over again as soon as you've listened to it.
Man, just got a good feeling about it. Can't wait.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 AM
Man, we're so close now. Five days max. Eight totally new 'Tones songs to dig into, next to the two already released songs. So excited.
Ive listened to Genesis and Ohms back to back a few times and I think it really gives me a look inside of the 'sound' of the album. There's a certain fullnes or richness I hear that I havent heared since ST/SNW imo. While those arent even my favorite records, I am very glad that the sound is so lush. Combined with some of the in-your-face-rock from Diamond Eyes and some experimentation from KNY this could be very special indeed.
We also know the tracklist and total runtime and its clear that this is a pretty fast record. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those records you'll want to play again and again, over and over again as soon as you've listened to it.
Man, just got a good feeling about it. Can't wait.
Fuck me, you're a blast from the past.
I'm getting the tingles of anticipation
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
What if Ohms is just one big concept album about Chino's chicken coop?
First owls, then flamingos, and now chickens!
Anyone have the new metal hammer and can scan it?
Is it me or is it just certain ppl can "leaktalk"? ::)
The amazon snippet link should b special and not b given away to just anyone now cmon!
Gonna be hard to fool people with amazon links to clips, considering Amazon has literally stopped doing song previews lol
Genesis has somehow become my low-key favorite Deftones song and I'm not sure how I feel about that. That bridge is so relaxing and I can't believe the chorus sounded like AIDS to me the first time I heard it, but now I can't get it out of my head. Do you guys think there will be any solos on the album this time? Was just wondering because I think some well-timed melodic mini-solos like on Phantom Bride or Hearts would be very welcome.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 20, 2020, 02:00 PM
Gonna be hard to fool people with amazon links to clips, considering Amazon has literally stopped doing song previews lol
I'm a simple man, I see Deftones preview I click :'(
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 20, 2020, 02:01 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 20, 2020, 02:00 PM
Gonna be hard to fool people with amazon links to clips, considering Amazon has literally stopped doing song previews lol
I'm a simple man, I see Deftones preview I click :'(
that's such a classic troll, i bet it's 20 years old at least. that one and gaping bunghole guy are the best
Metal Hammer review for those who were asking:
Quote"It's rare in a career spanning more than a quarter of a century that a band could make as few missteps as Deftones have. The Sacramento alt-metallers have rarely let their lofty standards slip below essential, but, even though many were hugely onboard with the more ethereal, experimental post-rock vibes of 2016's Gore, there were some murmurings of discontent from fans that the album sacrificed too much in the way of heaviness. If you were one of those people then Ohms will definitely go some way to placating you and your tastes, as long as you don't expect Deftones to have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
Opener Genesis is expertly pitched between the slow-burning mystique of the previous album, yet it's still dominated by a gargantuan Stephen Carpenter metal riff. It's then followed by two songs that sting like a butterfly and float like a bee; Ceremony is woozy one minute and white hot the next, while Urantia chugs into view as if it is going to be a full-blown metallic stomper before pulling back to a gentle strut. This dance continues for the rest of the song, and showcases everything that make Deftones so special. Their use of dynamics, the ability to be so heart-stopping beautiful yet outwardly aggressive, is the reason why so many people hold this band in such esteem. That push and pull is second nature to them at this point, and while it wouldn't be correct to say that Ohms points the band in any new directions or draws from any new influences, Deftones are such masters at taming these contradictory, capacious sounds that the results are continually glorious.
Saying that, the second half of the record is definitely where the old-school fans of traditional heaviness will have the most joy. Pompeji is a tricksy number, starting as slow and quiet as the album gets before launching into a destructive groove and then ending on as close to Vangelis-inspired synthwave scene as Deftones have ever been, before This Link Is Dead comes powering into view. It's probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record. They don't let up for the following Radiant City, and even though Headless is a slow and more spacious number it still contains some crushing guitar parts. The title track closes the record, once more an amalgam of lush melodies and post-metal crush, but with an added stoner riff that wouldn't be out of place on a Red Fang album.
Ohms is an album for every type of Deftones fan. Whether you're longing for the days of Around The Fur or if you appreciated the more measured material on Gore there will be something that you'll love. In taking an extensive tour of their past, Deftones continue to be essential today."
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 02:20 PM
Metal Hammer review for those who were asking:
Quote"It's rare in a career spanning more than a quarter of a century that a band could make as few missteps as Deftones have. The Sacramento alt-metallers have rarely let their lofty standards slip below essential, but, even though many were hugely onboard with the more ethereal, experimental post-rock vibes of 2016's Gore, there were some murmurings of discontent from fans that the album sacrificed too much in the way of heaviness. If you were one of those people then Ohms will definitely go some way to placating you and your tastes, as long as you don't expect Deftones to have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
Opener Genesis is expertly pitched between the slow-burning mystique of the previous album, yet it's still dominated by a gargantuan Stephen Carpenter metal riff. It's then followed by two songs that sting like a butterfly and float like a bee; Ceremony is woozy one minute and white hot the next, while Urantia chugs into view as if it is going to be a full-blown metallic stomper before pulling back to a gentle strut. This dance continues for the rest of the song, and showcases everything that make Deftones so special. Their use of dynamics, the ability to be so heart-stopping beautiful yet outwardly aggressive, is the reason why so many people hold this band in such esteem. That push and pull is second nature to them at this point, and while it wouldn't be correct to say that Ohms points the band in any new directions or draws from any new influences, Deftones are such masters at taming these contradictory, capacious sounds that the results are continually glorious.
Saying that, the second half of the record is definitely where the old-school fans of traditional heaviness will have the most joy. Pompeji is a tricksy number, starting as slow and quiet as the album gets before launching into a destructive groove and then ending on as close to Vangelis-inspired synthwave scene as Deftones have ever been, before This Link Is Dead comes powering into view. It's probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record. They don't let up for the following Radiant City, and even though Headless is a slow and more spacious number it still contains some crushing guitar parts. The title track closes the record, once more an amalgam of lush melodies and post-metal crush, but with an added stoner riff that wouldn't be out of place on a Red Fang album.
Ohms is an album for every type of Deftones fan. Whether you're longing for the days of Around The Fur or if you appreciated the more measured material on Gore there will be something that you'll love. In taking an extensive tour of their past, Deftones continue to be essential today."
tnx bro!
Thank you LG95!
Thx LG95 your the man 👊🏻
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 20, 2020, 02:01 PM
Genesis has somehow become my low-key favorite Deftones song and I'm not sure how I feel about that. That bridge is so relaxing and I can't believe the chorus sounded like AIDS to me the first time I heard it, but now I can't get it out of my head. Do you guys think there will be any solos on the album this time? Was just wondering because I think some well-timed melodic mini-solos like on Phantom Bride or Hearts would be very welcome.
there could be solos kinda like the one in goon squad, or the intro solo in hearts/wires (just barely able to be called solos). but Stephen seems hell bent on never doing a proper solo on an album. i thinks he's capable of a decent one(answers, and "dallas" from eros come to mind) but he's not willing, at all, zero, zip, zilch, nada. i mean Jerry Cantrell set them up perfectly with a manageable guitar solo, and Stef doesn't step up and play it live, he makes Chino do it(halfway correct), when it should be no problem for Stephen(he's the more skilled of the 2). maybe he's really just that bad, no idea. its bizarre to put it mildly, but he absolutely refuses, and avoids putting solos on their albums like the plague
Thanks for typing it out LG95.
From the review and what Ive heard so far I really get a 'back to basics' and in your face-approach feeling that I had with Diamond Eyes, but with a lusher soundscape from the Chi days. Thats a very positive thing btw. Thats what I get out of it of course but perhaps Ill be mistaken when I hear it all.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 20, 2020, 07:26 AM
Good to see YOU are alive and kicking as well, dude. :)
He he, thanks old friend! Same goes to you !!!! How's Brasil these days? Not too crazy with your weird president ?
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 20, 2020, 03:11 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 20, 2020, 07:26 AM
Good to see YOU are alive and kicking as well, dude. :)
He he, thanks old friend! Same goes to you !!!! How's Brasil these days? Not too crazy with your weird president ?
Well, according to him: "We are winning the battle against covid-19". 136k+ deaths and more than 4.5 million cases (with a huge notification delay, so numbers are, most likely, not accurate/up to date). Imagine if we were losing. The guy is a clown.
Anyway, enough politics, otherwise ppl will get upset, lol. Good to hear you're well. Kudos!
I guess with people receiving their copies, a leak is at the door.
I want to thank everyone one last time for sticking to the rules, which have been admittedly a lot more strict than they used to be. I also leaked a ton of stuff in the past, I appreciate the fact nobody waved that at my face and took the easy shot at calling me a hypocrite. Sometimes it feels good being a mod over here.
Rules still apply until d-day, don't explicitly discuss the material before it's officially out. To be honest, I'm still rooting for a no-leak, as unrealistic as it may be. It's a bit like watching my favorite football team getting crushed and hope for a complete turn of things until the final seconds. Sometimes it does happen... ;D
Thx for everything Romain! Glad we got to all experience this one more time!!!
Fingers crossed for a couple more as well! Hope everyone finds something special on this record!
;D
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 20, 2020, 03:11 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 20, 2020, 07:26 AM
Good to see YOU are alive and kicking as well, dude. :)
He he, thanks old friend! Same goes to you !!!! How's Brasil these days? Not too crazy with your weird president ?
;D ;D ;D ;D Mine is weirder
Hmm, no mention of The Spell of Mathematics or Error in that review.. 🤔
Nice article.
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 20, 2020, 04:30 PM
Hmm, no mention of The Spell of Mathematics or Error in that review.. 🤔
They described Ceremony as "woozy", which is funny because that's exactly how I'd describe TSOM's chorus.
Whoa tarkil, far away, moz...
It's like Im back to 2006
Girls are gone (devilinside and I forgot the other girl's name...).
This happens every 4 years haha
It's been a ride
Thanks for the MHammer review. That was nice of you. Sounds so promising and hopefully somewhat accurate! Didnt mention Spell of Math which i found sorta missing bc people have hinted at it being "different" or a surprise maybe. Urantia sounds really interesting thus far. I gotta decide today which bundle if any i want. I dont have a record player anymore or a cd player. The speakers in my Jeep Cherokee arent awesome and i feel like this may be the first time ever not initially hearing a new Dtones record at a premium level. This is really bugging me. I dont want to buy a stereo bc i own a beast, its just stuck 800 miles away in a storage facility i cant get to till December! :-\ Any ideas? Is theere any tecommendations for wireless ear buds for an Iphone? Like really good ones???? Please help a fellow fan out
The Ohms video is now at 2.9 million views and Genesis is around 690,000 views. Would be cool if Ohms gets to 3 milly and Genesis gets to 1 milly before the album drops.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the MHammer review. That was nice of you. Sounds so promising and hopefully somewhat accurate! Didnt mention Spell of Math which i found sorta missing bc people have hinted at it being "different" or a surprise maybe. Urantia sounds really interesting thus far. I gotta decide today which bundle if any i want. I dont have a record player anymore or a cd player. The speakers in my Jeep Cherokee arent awesome and i feel like this may be the first time ever not initially hearing a new Dtones record at a premium level. This is really bugging me. I dont want to buy a stereo bc i own a beast, its just stuck 800 miles away in a storage facility i cant get to till December! :-\ Any ideas? Is theere any tecommendations for wireless ear buds for an Iphone? Like really good ones???? Please help a fellow fan out
If I'd be planning to listen Ohms on iPhone, apart from looking for good headphones I'd go to Tidal for album stream. Deftones are one of few bands releasing music in MQA files on Tidal. It's called "Master" quality and you need to pay bit extra for "Master" Tidal account to access it, but it's worth it. Songs sound more detailed and analogue. With decent headphones their quality is uncomparable with any other streaming.
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the MHammer review. That was nice of you. Sounds so promising and hopefully somewhat accurate! Didnt mention Spell of Math which i found sorta missing bc people have hinted at it being "different" or a surprise maybe. Urantia sounds really interesting thus far. I gotta decide today which bundle if any i want. I dont have a record player anymore or a cd player. The speakers in my Jeep Cherokee arent awesome and i feel like this may be the first time ever not initially hearing a new Dtones record at a premium level. This is really bugging me. I dont want to buy a stereo bc i own a beast, its just stuck 800 miles away in a storage facility i cant get to till December! :-\ Any ideas? Is theere any tecommendations for wireless ear buds for an Iphone? Like really good ones???? Please help a fellow fan out
If I'd be planning to listen Ohms on iPhone, apart from looking for good headphones I'd go to Tidal for album stream. Deftones are one of few bands releasing music in MQA files on Tidal. It's called "Master" quality and you need to pay bit extra for "Master" Tidal account to access it, but it's worth it. Songs sound more detailed and analogue. With decent headphones their quality is uncomparable with any other streaming.
Interesting. I'll have to look into it.
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the MHammer review. That was nice of you. Sounds so promising and hopefully somewhat accurate! Didnt mention Spell of Math which i found sorta missing bc people have hinted at it being "different" or a surprise maybe. Urantia sounds really interesting thus far. I gotta decide today which bundle if any i want. I dont have a record player anymore or a cd player. The speakers in my Jeep Cherokee arent awesome and i feel like this may be the first time ever not initially hearing a new Dtones record at a premium level. This is really bugging me. I dont want to buy a stereo bc i own a beast, its just stuck 800 miles away in a storage facility i cant get to till December! :-\ Any ideas? Is theere any tecommendations for wireless ear buds for an Iphone? Like really good ones???? Please help a fellow fan out
If I'd be planning to listen Ohms on iPhone, apart from looking for good headphones I'd go to Tidal for album stream. Deftones are one of few bands releasing music in MQA files on Tidal. It's called "Master" quality and you need to pay bit extra for "Master" Tidal account to access it, but it's worth it. Songs sound more detailed and analogue. With decent headphones their quality is uncomparable with any other streaming.
Thanks for the advise, I forgot I have 3 months of tidal for free
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the MHammer review. That was nice of you. Sounds so promising and hopefully somewhat accurate! Didnt mention Spell of Math which i found sorta missing bc people have hinted at it being "different" or a surprise maybe. Urantia sounds really interesting thus far. I gotta decide today which bundle if any i want. I dont have a record player anymore or a cd player. The speakers in my Jeep Cherokee arent awesome and i feel like this may be the first time ever not initially hearing a new Dtones record at a premium level. This is really bugging me. I dont want to buy a stereo bc i own a beast, its just stuck 800 miles away in a storage facility i cant get to till December! :-\ Any ideas? Is theere any tecommendations for wireless ear buds for an Iphone? Like really good ones???? Please help a fellow fan out
If I'd be planning to listen Ohms on iPhone, apart from looking for good headphones I'd go to Tidal for album stream. Deftones are one of few bands releasing music in MQA files on Tidal. It's called "Master" quality and you need to pay bit extra for "Master" Tidal account to access it, but it's worth it. Songs sound more detailed and analogue. With decent headphones their quality is uncomparable with any other streaming.
Thanks, I just signed up for the free trial. Tbh on master quality sounds exactly the same as Spotify's high quality. Well. At least I know I'll be listening on the highest possible quality.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 02:20 PM
Metal Hammer review for those who were asking:
Quote"It's rare in a career spanning more than a quarter of a century that a band could make as few missteps as Deftones have. The Sacramento alt-metallers have rarely let their lofty standards slip below essential, but, even though many were hugely onboard with the more ethereal, experimental post-rock vibes of 2016's Gore, there were some murmurings of discontent from fans that the album sacrificed too much in the way of heaviness. If you were one of those people then Ohms will definitely go some way to placating you and your tastes, as long as you don't expect Deftones to have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
Opener Genesis is expertly pitched between the slow-burning mystique of the previous album, yet it's still dominated by a gargantuan Stephen Carpenter metal riff. It's then followed by two songs that sting like a butterfly and float like a bee; Ceremony is woozy one minute and white hot the next, while Urantia chugs into view as if it is going to be a full-blown metallic stomper before pulling back to a gentle strut. This dance continues for the rest of the song, and showcases everything that make Deftones so special. Their use of dynamics, the ability to be so heart-stopping beautiful yet outwardly aggressive, is the reason why so many people hold this band in such esteem. That push and pull is second nature to them at this point, and while it wouldn't be correct to say that Ohms points the band in any new directions or draws from any new influences, Deftones are such masters at taming these contradictory, capacious sounds that the results are continually glorious.
Saying that, the second half of the record is definitely where the old-school fans of traditional heaviness will have the most joy. Pompeji is a tricksy number, starting as slow and quiet as the album gets before launching into a destructive groove and then ending on as close to Vangelis-inspired synthwave scene as Deftones have ever been, before This Link Is Dead comes powering into view. It's probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record. They don't let up for the following Radiant City, and even though Headless is a slow and more spacious number it still contains some crushing guitar parts. The title track closes the record, once more an amalgam of lush melodies and post-metal crush, but with an added stoner riff that wouldn't be out of place on a Red Fang album.
Ohms is an album for every type of Deftones fan. Whether you're longing for the days of Around The Fur or if you appreciated the more measured material on Gore there will be something that you'll love. In taking an extensive tour of their past, Deftones continue to be essential today."
Thank you for typing this out! Just curious, did they they it any kind of grade?
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 20, 2020, 05:37 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 02:20 PM
Metal Hammer review for those who were asking:
Quote"It's rare in a career spanning more than a quarter of a century that a band could make as few missteps as Deftones have. The Sacramento alt-metallers have rarely let their lofty standards slip below essential, but, even though many were hugely onboard with the more ethereal, experimental post-rock vibes of 2016's Gore, there were some murmurings of discontent from fans that the album sacrificed too much in the way of heaviness. If you were one of those people then Ohms will definitely go some way to placating you and your tastes, as long as you don't expect Deftones to have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
Opener Genesis is expertly pitched between the slow-burning mystique of the previous album, yet it's still dominated by a gargantuan Stephen Carpenter metal riff. It's then followed by two songs that sting like a butterfly and float like a bee; Ceremony is woozy one minute and white hot the next, while Urantia chugs into view as if it is going to be a full-blown metallic stomper before pulling back to a gentle strut. This dance continues for the rest of the song, and showcases everything that make Deftones so special. Their use of dynamics, the ability to be so heart-stopping beautiful yet outwardly aggressive, is the reason why so many people hold this band in such esteem. That push and pull is second nature to them at this point, and while it wouldn't be correct to say that Ohms points the band in any new directions or draws from any new influences, Deftones are such masters at taming these contradictory, capacious sounds that the results are continually glorious.
Saying that, the second half of the record is definitely where the old-school fans of traditional heaviness will have the most joy. Pompeji is a tricksy number, starting as slow and quiet as the album gets before launching into a destructive groove and then ending on as close to Vangelis-inspired synthwave scene as Deftones have ever been, before This Link Is Dead comes powering into view. It's probably the most out-and-out brutal Deftones have sounded since When Girls Telephone Boys on their 2003 self-titled album. It's such a delight to hear the band rage with such uncompromising intensity again, so good in fact that it's the highlight of the record. They don't let up for the following Radiant City, and even though Headless is a slow and more spacious number it still contains some crushing guitar parts. The title track closes the record, once more an amalgam of lush melodies and post-metal crush, but with an added stoner riff that wouldn't be out of place on a Red Fang album.
Ohms is an album for every type of Deftones fan. Whether you're longing for the days of Around The Fur or if you appreciated the more measured material on Gore there will be something that you'll love. In taking an extensive tour of their past, Deftones continue to be essential today."
Thank you for typing this out! Just curious, did they they it any kind of grade?
Oh yeah, I did mention it earlier, sorry. 8/10.
Thanks!
Quote from: Frankz0r on Sep 20, 2020, 04:35 PM
Whoa tarkil, far away, moz...
It's like Im back to 2006
Girls are gone (devilinside and I forgot the other girl's name...).
This happens every 4 years haha
It's been a ride
Whats up, my man? I went MIA for some years. I cant say why, tbh, I have no idea. :D Good to see some old names still around.
I've been listening to a lot of The ocean while Ohms is not out.
Shit is about to get crazy in here, lol...
T minus 5 days!
Respect!
I use Qobuz for HD Audio
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 20, 2020, 06:33 PM
I use Qobuz for HD Audio
Guys, as you seem to be interested in stream quality, one more tip...
This program - https://audirvana.com/ - converts digital signal from Qobuz and Tidal to analogue which makes music sound better. It's paid but they have 30 days free trial which may be used right after Ohms premiere.
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the MHammer review. That was nice of you. Sounds so promising and hopefully somewhat accurate! Didnt mention Spell of Math which i found sorta missing bc people have hinted at it being "different" or a surprise maybe. Urantia sounds really interesting thus far. I gotta decide today which bundle if any i want. I dont have a record player anymore or a cd player. The speakers in my Jeep Cherokee arent awesome and i feel like this may be the first time ever not initially hearing a new Dtones record at a premium level. This is really bugging me. I dont want to buy a stereo bc i own a beast, its just stuck 800 miles away in a storage facility i cant get to till December! :-\ Any ideas? Is theere any tecommendations for wireless ear buds for an Iphone? Like really good ones???? Please help a fellow fan out
If I'd be planning to listen Ohms on iPhone, apart from looking for good headphones I'd go to Tidal for album stream. Deftones are one of few bands releasing music in MQA files on Tidal. It's called "Master" quality and you need to pay bit extra for "Master" Tidal account to access it, but it's worth it. Songs sound more detailed and analogue. With decent headphones their quality is uncomparable with any other streaming.
Thank u!
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 20, 2020, 06:33 PM
I use Qobuz for HD Audio
Guys, as you seem to be interested in stream quality, one more tip...
This program - https://audirvana.com/ - converts digital signal from Qobuz and Tidal to analogue which makes music sound better. It's paid but they have 30 days free trial which may be used right after Ohms premiere.
Yossarian... I'm curious where that picture of the flamingo came from. I never bought the vinyl is that actually the sticker from a vinyl version or did you find that and make it? It's a pretty sick concept and kudos to you if you came up with it
I've been trying to wrap my head around why I prefer Gore over Koi despite Koi being the slicker, infinitely better-produced album (don't worry, this ties into Ohms and I'll get to my point soon). I've realized it's because Gore is much sadder than Koi - P/T, Acid, Geo, H/W, (L)MIRL and Phantom Bride all have that melancholy vibe to them, while I would only really say the verse on Entombed, the bridge on Rosemary and maybe little parts of Leathers and Poltergeist sound sad (and those are really more bangers, even if they are dark), perhaps the Goon Squad intro, but that's about it. I guess I'm just a sadboi at heart. :(
From what I've heard, The Spell of Mathematics, Pompeji and the bridge on Ceremony definitely have some of that haunted sadness vibe to them and I hope there's some other sad moments for all my sadbois and sadgurls.
Despite not being mentioned much in the couple of reviews I've read, The Spell Of Mathematics was my early favourite from the Mixlr set. I think it might be one of the favourites for a few on here.
I can't get Genesis out of my fucking head
@LG95 I can confirm that.
Spell is going to get very high rankings on deftones top charts lol.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 20, 2020, 06:33 PM
I use Qobuz for HD Audio
Guys, as you seem to be interested in stream quality, one more tip...
This program - https://audirvana.com/ - converts digital signal from Qobuz and Tidal to analogue which makes music sound better. It's paid but they have 30 days free trial which may be used right after Ohms premiere.
Yossarian... I'm curious where that picture of the flamingo came from. I never bought the vinyl is that actually the sticker from a vinyl version or did you find that and make it? It's a pretty sick concept and kudos to you if you came up with it
not my work, I have copied it from this guy - https://www.reddit.com/r/fakealbumcovers/comments/cser8d/deftones_gore/
i dunno, when Gore leaked absolutely nobody was talking about Acid Hologram
Quote from: Draken on Sep 20, 2020, 07:57 PM
I can't get Genesis out of my fucking head
2 days ago I was like "it's ok song, nothing special".
Now I walk around whole day humming "climbing out of the ashes" to myself :o
@Inkblades I think I prefer Gore over KNY as well. I know that's an unpopular opinion. What Happened To You probably slays anything on Gore though lol.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 20, 2020, 08:09 PM
@Inkblades I think I prefer Gore over KNY as well. I know that's an unpopular opinion. What Happened To You probably slays anything on Gore though lol.
Another unpopular opinion: WHTY? is my least favorite Deftones song. I do like Chino's performance, but I hate the one-note riff on it. Like, violently hate.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 08:16 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 20, 2020, 08:09 PM
@Inkblades I think I prefer Gore over KNY as well. I know that's an unpopular opinion. What Happened To You probably slays anything on Gore though lol.
Another unpopular opinion: WHTY? is my least favorite Deftones song. I do like Chino's performance, but I hate the one-note riff on it. Like, violently hate.
Whenever I see somebody post their least favorite Deftones song I instantly think of CMND/CTRL..... The King Kong come get some bullshit literally killed it 10 times over. I don't understand how Chino went on for months knowing he could rewrite another phrase or something. I also can't stand guns razors knives LOL it is so immature and lazy! I also picture CMND without some of those lyrics and I still can't get down on it no matter what BC he sounds silly in the tone he's yelling the lyrics out in
I just want some wall of sound chords on this album. I love Genesis but I'm over the single string chug. I need more Knife Party/Boy's Republic/Hexagram goodness.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 08:24 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 08:16 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 20, 2020, 08:09 PM
@Inkblades I think I prefer Gore over KNY as well. I know that's an unpopular opinion. What Happened To You probably slays anything on Gore though lol.
Another unpopular opinion: WHTY? is my least favorite Deftones song. I do like Chino's performance, but I hate the one-note riff on it. Like, violently hate.
Whenever I see somebody post their least favorite Deftones song I instantly think of CMND/CTRL..... The King Kong come get some bullshit literally killed it 10 times over. I don’t understand how Chino went on for months knowing he could rewrite another phrase or something. I also can’t stand guns razors knives LOL it is so immature and lazy! I also picture CMND without some of those lyrics and I still can’t get down on it no matter what BC he sounds silly in the tone he’s yelling the lyrics out in
i don't mind king kong get some. i like it, it's kinda like Anthony Kietis kinda weird rap lines. gun razors knives as well, is just a more intense knife party theme(possibly having the knife/gun fight with a gf, or them as your accomplice) . but i can see how some would find it dumb
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 08:24 PM
Whenever I see somebody post their least favorite Deftones song I instantly think of CMND/CTRL..... The King Kong come get some bullshit literally killed it 10 times over. I don't understand how Chino went on for months knowing he could rewrite another phrase or something. I also can't stand guns razors knives LOL it is so immature and lazy! I also picture CMND without some of those lyrics and I still can't get down on it no matter what BC he sounds silly in the tone he's yelling the lyrics out in
i agree with you about rocket skates, but i always took that line in cmnd/ctrl as a reference to the movie training day where denzel's character yells "king kong ain't got shit on me!"
If you put Rocket Skates lyrics into the context of playing video games competitively with friends it all makes sense.
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/91/b3/d4/91b3d4da1c7c359e7de734142f970c60--chi-cheng-chino-moreno.jpg)
I don't mind guns, razors, knives but bitch you're barbaric, King Kong, get some is goofy as fuck lol.
dumb lyrics rarely ruin a song for me. It needs to be dumb as fuck. Pink Cellphone comes to mind.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 20, 2020, 08:32 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 08:24 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 08:16 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 20, 2020, 08:09 PM
@Inkblades I think I prefer Gore over KNY as well. I know that's an unpopular opinion. What Happened To You probably slays anything on Gore though lol.
Another unpopular opinion: WHTY? is my least favorite Deftones song. I do like Chino's performance, but I hate the one-note riff on it. Like, violently hate.
Whenever I see somebody post their least favorite Deftones song I instantly think of CMND/CTRL..... The King Kong come get some bullshit literally killed it 10 times over. I don't understand how Chino went on for months knowing he could rewrite another phrase or something. I also can't stand guns razors knives LOL it is so immature and lazy! I also picture CMND without some of those lyrics and I still can't get down on it no matter what BC he sounds silly in the tone he's yelling the lyrics out in
i don't mind king kong get some. i like it, it's kinda like Anthony Kietis kinda weird rap lines. gun razors knives as well, is just a more intense knife party theme, lets actually do this knife and gun fight with an accomplice . but i can see how some would find it dumb
Maybe if he didn't say fuck with me after he says guns razors knives it wouldn't be as bad but he sounds like someone that he's not like he's some bad ass or something like that and it just seems silly to me that's all. He's the same guy who wrote lovers and passenger etc. etc. And he's not Anthony Kiedis, it just came Out of nowhere because I can't think of any lyrics before that that fall into the same category you put it in or we put it in. It's just not Chino to me or Deftones to me that's all. But after all it is Deftones because it is now solidified. Anthony Kiedis ....that's his style
Guns, razors, knives, (doesn't matter what game it is I'll kick your ass.) Fuck with me.
I'm right next to you (*sitting*)
put the keys (*controllers*) in our hands
let's drink with our weapons (*controllers*) in our hands
let's fall in a long sadistic trance (eyes fixed to the screen)
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/91/b3/d4/91b3d4da1c7c359e7de734142f970c60--chi-cheng-chino-moreno.jpg)
Quote from: Draken on Sep 20, 2020, 08:43 PM
If you put Rocket Skates lyrics into the context of playing video games competitively with friends it all makes sense.
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/91/b3/d4/91b3d4da1c7c359e7de734142f970c60--chi-cheng-chino-moreno.jpg)
Ok.
Hang on, people don't like GUNS RAZORS KNIVES? That shit rules. CMND/CTRL bangs too. Such a bouncy groove and riff.
Mein is shit, Combat's not good at all, LMIRL does nothing interesting after the intro. It seems popular now to say that Pink Cellphone is ok up until Annie Hardy's monologue at the end. It's not, it's shit all the way through.
Those are the outright bad Deftones songs. I've been LG95, good night.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 20, 2020, 08:53 PM
Guns, razors, knives, (doesn't matter what game it is I'll kick your ass.) Fuck with me.
I'm right next to you (*sitting*)
put the keys (*controllers*) in our hands
let's drink with our weapons (*controllers*) in our hands
let's fall in a long sadistic trance (eyes fixed to the screen)
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/91/b3/d4/91b3d4da1c7c359e7de734142f970c60--chi-cheng-chino-moreno.jpg)
Nicely put! You can turn any lyrics just about into anything and I think that's how Chino writes most of the time anyways. So I get it. I just don't like those lines they sound pathetic to me no matter what but you really just thought up some maaaaaagic there bud. Maybe we should start a thread unless there is one I lazily haven't found yet about our interpretations of chinos lyrics!? I think it would be really fun and thoughtful and entertaining. Maybe even enlightening if somebody really nails something ??? ::)
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 08:56 PM
Hang on, people don't like GUNS RAZORS KNIVES? That shit rules. CMND/CTRL bangs too. Such a bouncy groove and riff.
Mein is shit, Combat's not good at all, LMIRL does nothing interesting after the intro. It seems popular now to say that Pink Cellphone is ok up until Annie Hardy's monologue at the end. It's not, it's shit all the way through.
Those are the outright bad Deftones songs. I've been LG95, good night.
booooooo
One move that will keep you wet.
Lets sail in this sea of charms.
I mean, the correlations go on. To me that's what the song is about, just covering up the meaning in a more poetic way than being so on the nose about it.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 08:56 PM
Hang on, people don't like GUNS RAZORS KNIVES? That shit rules. CMND/CTRL bangs too. Such a bouncy groove and riff.
Mein is shit, Combat's not good at all, LMIRL does nothing interesting after the intro. It seems popular now to say that Pink Cellphone is ok up until Annie Hardy's monologue at the end. It's not, it's shit all the way through.
Those are the outright bad Deftones songs. I've been LG95, good night.
Yup that's how the whole big world works. I like all those songs you mentioned except Mein.. But we do both love Deftones
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 08:56 PM
Hang on, people don't like GUNS RAZORS KNIVES? That shit rules. CMND/CTRL bangs too. Such a bouncy groove and riff.
Mein is shit, Combat's not good at all, LMIRL does nothing interesting after the intro. It seems popular now to say that Pink Cellphone is ok up until Annie Hardy's monologue at the end. It's not, it's shit all the way through.
Those are the outright bad Deftones songs. I've been LG95, good night.
Only song in the list I don't get is Combat, even though I don't hate Mein as much as I used to. how is it not good?
Good shit Draken 8)
I couldn't get this damn clip of the video to embed for the life of me but this is how you Gore fans look to me:
https://youtu.be/wHQP1YqB-p4?start=218&end=235 (https://youtu.be/wHQP1YqB-p4?start=218&end=235)
Combat is amazing. Sounds huge and has some great drumming by Abe. One of the stronger SNW tracks for sure.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 20, 2020, 09:07 PM
Combat is amazing. Sounds huge and has some great drumming by Abe. One of the stronger SNW tracks for sure.
agreed. i'd say riviere, rapture, kimdracula, and combat are my favorites from SNW
That song sends me to heaven man. Pretty much like all of their closers do.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 08:56 PM
Hang on, people don't like GUNS RAZORS KNIVES? That shit rules. CMND/CTRL bangs too. Such a bouncy groove and riff.
Mein is shit, Combat's not good at all, LMIRL does nothing interesting after the intro. It seems popular now to say that Pink Cellphone is ok up until Annie Hardy's monologue at the end. It's not, it's shit all the way through.
Those are the outright bad Deftones songs. I've been LG95, good night.
Wow, never really heard anyone express a dislike for Combat before. Like all the heavy songs on SNW, Chino's screaming is just not up to par for me, but the song itself is pretty solid. Always liked the space rock vibes on it.
Abe's drums kicking in on Riviere is such a stunning moment. That song is hauntingly beautiful, just wish it was a little longer.
Maybe I'm overstating it but Combat does sound a bit to me like a lesser band trying to sound like Deftones.
70 more pages by weeks end
if it leaks it'll be about 400 pages.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 20, 2020, 09:48 PM
Maybe I'm overstating it but Combat does sound a bit to me like a lesser band trying to sound like Deftones.
For me a song that fits this description is Prayers/Triangles. thought I don't think the song sucks per say
Quote from: Draken on Sep 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
I couldn't get this damn clip of the video to embed for the life of me but this is how you Gore fans look to me:
https://youtu.be/wHQP1YqB-p4?start=218&end=235 (https://youtu.be/wHQP1YqB-p4?start=218&end=235)
Haha wtfing hell was that?!?! I felt like I was in the twilight zone or some thing. What I'm really wondering is how the fuck you found something like that or why somebody would make something like that. don't take it wrong I liked it but how strange?
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 20, 2020, 09:10 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 20, 2020, 09:07 PM
Combat is amazing. Sounds huge and has some great drumming by Abe. One of the stronger SNW tracks for sure.
agreed. i'd say riviere, rapture, kimdracula, and combat are my favorites from SNW
Combat I feel was one of the tracks on that album that was thought out structurally and had ideas behind it. It's very different and in my opinion there was nothing like it before it. I might be sounding like I think it's epic or something and I don't but it is a good track where Chino's screaming isn't all the way up to par but it's still good
BAM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 20, 2020, 10:37 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
I couldn't get this damn clip of the video to embed for the life of me but this is how you Gore fans look to me:
https://youtu.be/wHQP1YqB-p4?start=218&end=235 (https://youtu.be/wHQP1YqB-p4?start=218&end=235)
Haha wtfing hell was that?!?! I felt like I was in the twilight zone or some thing. What I'm really wondering is how the fuck you found something like that or why somebody would make something like that. don't take it wrong I liked it but how strange?
Lol. Doug does a lot of editing for Tim and Eric, this is a clip from a short series he did on YT called Pound House.
It's very David Lynch meets T&E.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 04:16 AM
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I think Pompeji and Spell of Mathematics will be top 10 songs.
Can you say if either of those are slow songs like a Sextape type?
I hope we get one of those slower atmospheric songs on the album 🤞
Pompeji is sort of like a mixture of Sextape and Cherry Waves except a little creepier and sinister.
Between this description and the description from the MH review, it sounds like this will be a favourite for me. Give me dark, creepy, sinister, etc. all day and I'm happy.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 07:45 PM
I've been trying to wrap my head around why I prefer Gore over Koi despite Koi being the slicker, infinitely better-produced album (don't worry, this ties into Ohms and I'll get to my point soon). I've realized it's because Gore is much sadder than Koi - P/T, Acid, Geo, H/W, (L)MIRL and Phantom Bride all have that melancholy vibe to them, while I would only really say the verse on Entombed, the bridge on Rosemary and maybe little parts of Leathers and Poltergeist sound sad (and those are really more bangers, even if they are dark), perhaps the Goon Squad intro, but that's about it. I guess I'm just a sadboi at heart. :(
From what I've heard, The Spell of Mathematics, Pompeji and the bridge on Ceremony definitely have some of that haunted sadness vibe to them and I hope there's some other sad moments for all my sadbois and sadgurls.
That's how I feel. I love Gore, which I know is in the minority, but I really do. It's not that I dislike any Deftones album, I love them all. But the dark or sad music they make just sounds better to me. (L)MIRL is one of my favourite Deftones songs ever specifically for that reason. My only criticism is that it changes tone somewhere in the middle and sounds kind of happier, but it's still incredible. If Ohms has more of that, then it'll be a huge success in my mind.
Guys, my nipples are TINGLING with excitement!
(https://i.imgur.com/skhQ73W.gif)
Daniel P Carter's Radio 1 Rock Show will be a Deftones special next Sunday. He's playing the album in full, along with interviews with Chino, Frank, Abe and Sergio.
There you have it. Full leak next sunday!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXUkg8Iqs04
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 11:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXUkg8Iqs04
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂LOL😂😂😂
I have not listened to the song yet. but I'm curious...whats that person reaction?
Snack!
Munch!
REAAAAAAAAAAACT!
Quote from: buflen on Sep 20, 2020, 11:57 PM
I have not listened to the song yet. but I'm curious...whats that person reaction?
Pretty much turned it off straight away. She seems to be an absolute tripper 😂
Okay, I dig Genesis. The breakdown decrescendo is way, way too short.
Yup I knew you could come around V... the bridge is criminally short. It needs one more I'll show you the way then it's perfect.
In my defense, I listened to it twice only (leak excluded).
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 11:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXUkg8Iqs04
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"I react to ALL genres of music."
*Two seconds of screaming later* NOOOOPE.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 20, 2020, 11:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXUkg8Iqs04
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This was so annoying and so she is...
My ears were literally ringing this morning from blasting genesis yesterday. God it's good turned all the way up. 😜😈
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 21, 2020, 12:26 AM
In my defense, I listened to it twice only (leak excluded).
"Im my defense"??? What u mean?
People talking about worst Deftones song and no mention of Hole in the Earth? :o
I do not know why or how, but when I look at the track listing for this album, all the song titles seem to fit together. I don't know if it's because I haven't heard the whole thing and I haven't looked at it that Way in my younger days, but everything jives in some way that I cant explain for the first time ever, the track listing all seems to fit together even though they never fit with the songs because they are 90% of the time random. Also, I am on the verge of listening to Genesis. Too many diehards out there that I remember from back in the day when I was a part of sharing lungs a long long long time ago revering it as a great track. I can't stand it anymore and I'm about to just do it because I realize how stupid it is to hold out because I'm proving nothing to nobody if I do or dont.... here we go
Quote from: HexagramRX on Sep 21, 2020, 03:17 AM
People talking about worst Deftones song and no mention of Hole in the Earth? :o
Hey man, i dont judge but if you are going to say WORST as in all caps, you don't name hole in the Earth by Deftones. That is definitely not their worst track and I know you can do better than that.
Also, to me and it may be a lot of other people that song may be extra special to because Chino was talking about his own band and maybe even other friends and that song still was a single and still came out talking about them. Not to mention it does have its prettiness. I also remember Chi saying, maybe not Word for Word but "I don't care what he says as long as the fucking song gets finished or the album gets finished". And that is special to me because it was Chi and because the song isn't the worst track ever and you r probably on your own on that one sorry bud.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 03:20 AM
Quote from: HexagramRX on Sep 21, 2020, 03:17 AM
People talking about worst Deftones song and no mention of Hole in the Earth? :o
Hey man, i dont judge but if you are going to say worse as in all caps, you don't name hole in the Earth by Deftones. That is definitely not their worst track and I know you can do better than that.
I disagree.
Lol Hole in the Earth is better than so many songs. I mean, Gore exists.
So as you can see I added to what I said because I'm a drunk bitch right now, I don't mean any harm and I know everybody has opinions but there are far worse songs than that if you really mean what you said. It's definitely not a favorite track for me of any music in the world, so don't take it that way, but come on now. It's beautiful even if you don't like it, If that makes any sense.... and I even tell that to myself about that one. I have revisited it after 14 or 15 long years over and over and over and love it more and more because of that whole idea of what the song is behind and because it really isn't a bad track.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 03:28 AM
So as you can see I added to what I said because I'm a drunk bitch right now, I don't mean any harm and I know everybody has opinions but there are far worse songs than that if you really mean what you said. It's definitely not a favorite track for me of any music in the world, so don't take it that way, but come on now. It's beautiful even if you don't like it, If that makes any sense.... and I even tell that to myself about that one. I have revisited it after 14 or 15 long years over and over and over and love it more and more because of that whole idea of what the song is behind and because it really isn't a bad track.
I can respect that. Had that album playing in my vehicle for about a year straight back in the day.. and go back to snw frequently .. still can't get into that track and I would personally skip to any song in the Deftones library. If I'm alone in that opinion I'm genuinely surprised.
Only thing i could say negative about "hole in the earth" is that it is chino's voice at its absolute worse and the demo has a better structure.
but it's not a bad song at all
How many of you waited in line for ATF and WP the night it was released?
This is the most excited I have been since an album release. Went to both tour kick off shows too. Wish there was a show next week
There he goes, check 4:28 (Genesis was placed in his "Worst tracks" section for this week)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRFbd9PrtM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 20, 2020, 02:37 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 20, 2020, 02:01 PM
Genesis has somehow become my low-key favorite Deftones song and I'm not sure how I feel about that. That bridge is so relaxing and I can't believe the chorus sounded like AIDS to me the first time I heard it, but now I can't get it out of my head. Do you guys think there will be any solos on the album this time? Was just wondering because I think some well-timed melodic mini-solos like on Phantom Bride or Hearts would be very welcome.
there could be solos kinda like the one in goon squad, or the intro solo in hearts/wires (just barely able to be called solos). but Stephen seems hell bent on never doing a proper solo on an album. i thinks he's capable of a decent one(answers, and "dallas" from eros come to mind) but he's not willing, at all, zero, zip, zilch, nada. i mean Jerry Cantrell set them up perfectly with a manageable guitar solo, and Stef doesn't step up and play it live, he makes Chino do it(halfway correct), when it should be no problem for Stephen(he's the more skilled of the 2). maybe he's really just that bad, no idea. its bizarre to put it mildly, but he absolutely refuses, and avoids putting solos on their albums like the plague
Good
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 21, 2020, 03:55 AM
There he goes, check 4:28 (Genesis was placed in his "Worst tracks" section for this week)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRFbd9PrtM
i expected him to be much meaner to the song. like I can't tell what he didn't like about it beside djenty guitar (?) and I guess the annoying screams?
Lol the Youtube comments are flaming him over it.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 21, 2020, 03:27 AM
Lol Hole in the Earth is better than so many songs. I mean, Gore exists.
I've warmed up to SNW over the years, still their bottom tier for me though.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 21, 2020, 03:45 AM
Only thing i could say negative about "hole in the earth" is that it is chino's voice at its absolute worse and the demo has a better structure.
but it's not a bad song at all
The live performances are so cringe worthy (looking at you Live on Conan) I like the song though.
Does anybody else hear "I hate all of my friends they all lactate... sometimes"? (I know he says lack taste..)
Quote from: buflen on Sep 20, 2020, 08:51 PM
dumb lyrics rarely ruin a song for me. It needs to be dumb as fuck. Pink Cellphone comes to mind.
Easily and by far the worst Deftones song. Absolute trash...
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 21, 2020, 04:11 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 20, 2020, 08:51 PM
dumb lyrics rarely ruin a song for me. It needs to be dumb as fuck. Pink Cellphone comes to mind.
Easily and by far the worst Deftones song. Absolute trash...
so unlike Deftones, not just sound wise but it's as if they stopped taking themselves seriously for a moment.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 21, 2020, 04:16 AM
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 21, 2020, 04:11 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 20, 2020, 08:51 PM
dumb lyrics rarely ruin a song for me. It needs to be dumb as fuck. Pink Cellphone comes to mind.
Easily and by far the worst Deftones song. Absolute trash...
so unlike Deftones, not just sound wise but it's as if they stopped taking themselves seriously for a moment.
I think it was Chino himself sneaking it onto the record at the last minute. I doubt the rest of the band would've signed off on that
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 03:18 AM
I do not know why or how, but when I look at the track listing for this album, all the song titles seem to fit together. I don't know if it's because I haven't heard the whole thing and I haven't looked at it that Way in my younger days, but everything jives in some way that I cant explain for the first time ever, the track listing all seems to fit together even though they never fit with the songs because they are 90% of the time random. Also, I am on the verge of listening to Genesis. Too many diehards out there that I remember from back in the day when I was a part of sharing lungs a long long long time ago revering it as a great track. I can't stand it anymore and I'm about to just do it because I realize how stupid it is to hold out because I'm proving nothing to nobody if I do or dont.... here we go
Sooo.... what did you think??
I don't mind Pink Cellphone but I almost don't consider it a Deftones song. To me, it's an Annie Hardy song produced by and featuring Chino Moreno. That being said, it's fucking INSANE to leave Finger of Death off in favor of it.
Quick review from another board:
"Got the record yesterday for review (Warner music seems very strict about it as it the "confidential" button is as big as ever) and it's a beast! I'm pretty d'accord with the Metal Hammer review. Had a friend over today who is a HUGE fan and he was blown away. But even as a casual fan I was surprised how much I enjoy it. It's a perfect mixture of old and new and yes, "this link is dead" is a really really mean track! Definitely a stand-out track, but so is "radiant city" with it's heavy crunch, but dreamy vocals.
It's a bold move to release two singles which are the A and O to the record, first and last song, but what lies in between is an extremely solid ride and damn, Chino is at his a-game vocal wise. I also love how bass driven the record is, the rythm section really shines on Ohms and I haven't enjoyed a Deftones record that much in years. Some real bangers on there which I can't wait to see live eventually.
Favorite tracks (curious on what you guys and girls will say next week): Genesis, Error, This Link is Dead, Radiant City"
Everyone is having TLID as one of their favorite tracks in every review I've read. Can't wait to hear that song
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 21, 2020, 04:35 AM
Quick review from another board:
"Got the record yesterday for review (Warner music seems very strict about it as it the "confidential" button is as big as ever) and it's a beast! I'm pretty d'accord with the Metal Hammer review. Had a friend over today who is a HUGE fan and he was blown away. But even as a casual fan I was surprised how much I enjoy it. It's a perfect mixture of old and new and yes, "this link is dead" is a really really mean track! Definitely a stand-out track, but so is "radiant city" with it's heavy crunch, but dreamy vocals.
It's a bold move to release two singles which are the A and O to the record, first and last song, but what lies in between is an extremely solid ride and damn, Chino is at his a-game vocal wise. I also love how bass driven the record is, the rythm section really shines on Ohms and I haven't enjoyed a Deftones record that much in years. Some real bangers on there which I can't wait to see live eventually.
Favorite tracks (curious on what you guys and girls will say next week): Genesis, Error, This Link is Dead, Radiant City"
You just keep on deliverin' the good stuff, man
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 21, 2020, 05:22 AM
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Big Lebowski is my favorite movie lol. Well done sir
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 21, 2020, 04:18 AM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 21, 2020, 04:16 AM
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 21, 2020, 04:11 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 20, 2020, 08:51 PM
dumb lyrics rarely ruin a song for me. It needs to be dumb as fuck. Pink Cellphone comes to mind.
Easily and by far the worst Deftones song. Absolute trash...
so unlike Deftones, not just sound wise but it's as if they stopped taking themselves seriously for a moment.
I think it was Chino himself sneaking it onto the record at the last minute. I doubt the rest of the band would've signed off on that
right, it is a completely "Chino song" he made without the band knowing. He even admitted it was out of character but he was just uninspired and bored with the album, the guys weren't really communicating and he sort made that on the fly with Annie Hardy.
According to Annie Hardy, that outro part only ended up on the record because Chino didn't respond to an email from his manager.
Songs I dont really care about:
Adrenaline / ATF / WP (dont include BTS here) and ST are 99% perfect. Engine #9 / Headup, the little bass thing in the end is better than both songs combined, imo
SNW: HITE (album version is rly crap). Mein, Rats!, Pink cellphone
DE: some songs Im not a fan, but I dont think they are BAD...just... meh.
KNY: Rosemary is boring as fuck, sorry, it is..
Gore: Doomed user, Geometric, Pittura Infamante
From this list, I rly cant say I HATE any song, but I skip them like, 90% of the time!
Quote from: Far away on Sep 21, 2020, 06:51 AM
KNY: Rosemary is boring as fuck, sorry, it is..
Oof... Rosemary is easily the best on Koi for me
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 21, 2020, 06:55 AM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 21, 2020, 06:51 AM
KNY: Rosemary is boring as fuck, sorry, it is..
Oof... Rosemary is easily the best on Koi for me
tbf, my problem with that song is the slow ass tempo, thats the only reason its in that list, lol.
from the leaks I've heard spell of mathematics, headless and possibly pompeji sound like absolute classics. Oddly enough all the reviews keep talking about error, radiant City, and this link is dead. if those songs really are on par or better than spell & headless.........as excited as I am to hear the album, I'm equally excited to see the fans be excited again after a lot of you were disappointed by Gore.I work tomorrow night and then I'm basically off for 4 days. I think as soon as I get off work tomorrow the hype is it going to kick into overdrive and become unbearable. I've just had a feeling ever since they released the album but it would leak on the Tuesday before so that's when I took my PTO days. even if it doesn't and I have to wait until Thursday when it releases a New Zealand I'll still have two full days to jam out. I'm glad the reviews are sharing the same sentiment that I've been saying for weeks now, that this album really is going to have something for everyone. even if it doesn't leak at all, we are 77 hours away from the New Zealand release if my math is correct. that sounds so crazy to say out loud after this long crazy year. be well everyone..... we're in the home stretch
Yeah man the hype is getting into overdrive here as well, Im getting very impatient. This is the week we're going to hear the record, feels insane to put it like that. Reaaaally getting impatient now lol.
Also I saw some mentions earlier in the topic, cool beans! Whats up guys and galls. Its been a while huh. I remember when I was 17/18/19 sitting in my bedroom in my parents house, smoking one cig after another and posting thousands of posts here lol. It was between S/T and SNW. Man, how time flies. But Deftones is forever.
It's their another record without early leak - really good job done by the label (except mixlr incident). Maybe they will keep it that way till NZ release.
The Soundboard review:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thesoundboardreviews.com/2020/09/21/album-review-ohms-by-deftones/amp/
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 10:15 AM
The Soundboard review:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thesoundboardreviews.com/2020/09/21/album-review-ohms-by-deftones/amp/
This review was less about the tracks and the album and more about how Deftones are still relevant after so many years, and ohms not being a tectonic shift from their previous works. Although that's not incorrect, the review had little to do with the album, and dragged itself in the sea of carefully chosen words so as to not draw ire from fans inspite of what the reviewer actually feels and plays it safe.
My score of the review: 2/10
Bring the Noise review:
https://www.bringthenoiseuk.com/202009/reviews/music-reviews/album-review-deftones-ohms
Radio Metal review (French):
http://www.radiometal.com/article/deftones-ohms-2,376688
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 PM
Bring the Noise review:
https://www.bringthenoiseuk.com/202009/reviews/music-reviews/album-review-deftones-ohms
Radio Metal review (French):
http://www.radiometal.com/article/deftones-ohms-2,376688
Great reviews imo, and yet another example of mentioning different tracks as their favorites which shows the overall quality and diversity of this album.
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 21, 2020, 12:29 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 PM
Bring the Noise review:
https://www.bringthenoiseuk.com/202009/reviews/music-reviews/album-review-deftones-ohms
Radio Metal review (French):
http://www.radiometal.com/article/deftones-ohms-2,376688
Great reviews imo, and yet another example of mentioning different tracks as their favorites which shows the overall quality and diversity of this album.
All the reviews that I've read so far are overwhelmingly positive which is, frankly, astounding this far into their career - Friday just can't come soon enough.
Quote from: all3n_y on Sep 21, 2020, 04:25 AM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 03:18 AM
I do not know why or how, but when I look at the track listing for this album, all the song titles seem to fit together. I don't know if it's because I haven't heard the whole thing and I haven't looked at it that Way in my younger days, but everything jives in some way that I cant explain for the first time ever, the track listing all seems to fit together even though they never fit with the songs because they are 90% of the time random. Also, I am on the verge of listening to Genesis. Too many diehards out there that I remember from back in the day when I was a part of sharing lungs a long long long time ago revering it as a great track. I can't stand it anymore and I'm about to just do it because I realize how stupid it is to hold out because I'm proving nothing to nobody if I do or dont.... here we go
Sooo.... what did you think??
WOW. The last chorus is just idk .....perfect? I gotta let this breath a bit but im really really digging it more every listen. So much going on
Given the inevitable leak on Thursday, we're less than three days from hearing this. Maximum.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 21, 2020, 12:52 PM
Given the inevitable leak on Thursday, we're less than three days from hearing this. Maximum.
Very true though I'll be very very surprised if it doesn't appear between now and Thursday.
I really need this album to lift the spirits. My wife is unwell and waiting for a COVID test to arrive, working from home but also have two kids to look after while my wife is out of action as we're all having to isolate so really looking forward to hearing Ohms more than ever.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 01:00 PM
I really need this album to lift the spirits. My wife is unwell and waiting for a COVID test to arrive, working from home but also have two kids to look after while my wife is out of action as we're all having to isolate so really looking forward to hearing Ohms more than ever.
Woah, good luck and stay positive. It will all work itself out man.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 01:00 PM
I really need this album to lift the spirits. My wife is unwell and waiting for a COVID test to arrive, working from home but also have two kids to look after while my wife is out of action as we're all having to isolate so really looking forward to hearing Ohms more than ever.
stay strong, bro... OHMS support is inevitable and coming your way
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 01:00 PM
I really need this album to lift the spirits. My wife is unwell and waiting for a COVID test to arrive, working from home but also have two kids to look after while my wife is out of action as we're all having to isolate so really looking forward to hearing Ohms more than ever.
Hope your wife gets better soon, dude. Best wishes to your family. I'm sure Ohms will be a great isolation soundtrack.
I am ridiculously excited. Like more than i was for ATF or WP or ST etc etc.... my wife is getting a little annoyed with it. And with me being on my phone visiting this place ;D it really is a great thing to be a deftones fan right fucking now
Yo - thanks, guys! What a fucking year!
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 01:00 PM
I really need this album to lift the spirits. My wife is unwell and waiting for a COVID test to arrive, working from home but also have two kids to look after while my wife is out of action as we're all having to isolate so really looking forward to hearing Ohms more than ever.
Stay strong, my friend. You and your family will be fine. And dont worry about the record. 2020 has been such a shitty year that we are due to some crazy/great news.
Trust!
Ghost Cult review:
https://www.ghostcultmag.com/album-review-deftones-ohms-reprise-records/
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 01:14 PM
I am ridiculously excited. Like more than i was for ATF or WP or ST etc etc.... my wife is getting a little annoyed with it. And with me being on my phone visiting this place ;D it really is a great thing to be a deftones fan right fucking now
Dude same here! I am on my phone all day! I'm currently following on here, Reddit, and the discord 😅
Speaking of which, can someone please post the link to the discord again?
Stereogum review:
https://www.stereogum.com/2098672/deftones-ohms-review/franchises/reviews/premature-evaluation/
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 21, 2020, 02:08 PM
Speaking of which, can someone please post the link to the discord again?
https://discord.gg/4uyvsd
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 02:09 PM
Stereogum review:
https://www.stereogum.com/2098672/deftones-ohms-review/franchises/reviews/premature-evaluation/
I like some of the lyrical and thematic detail in that review. Not just "it's heavy but melodic".
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 02:09 PM
Stereogum review:
https://www.stereogum.com/2098672/deftones-ohms-review/franchises/reviews/premature-evaluation/
I can't wait to hear This Link Is Dead!
"That atmosphere bleeds directly over into "This Link Is Dead," which I'm pretty sure isn't about proper website maintenance. It starts with the sonar creaking of an ice shelf and notes from an angelic horn before a cascading pick slide delivers a — once again — especially furious Moreno working a screamed verse into a brooding chorus. It also manages somehow, with all that around the edges, to be the most groove-heavy and violently explosive of the album. "
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 21, 2020, 02:23 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 02:09 PM
Stereogum review:
https://www.stereogum.com/2098672/deftones-ohms-review/franchises/reviews/premature-evaluation/
I like some of the lyrical and thematic detail in that review. Not just "it's heavy but melodic".
Yes, that was an enjoyable and very engaging read. Anticipation for the album is at fever pitch now!
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 02:09 PM
Stereogum review:
https://www.stereogum.com/2098672/deftones-ohms-review/franchises/reviews/premature-evaluation/
Man the reviewer says a lot of lame thing in this review, but he actually made my laugh out loud with this:
"That atmosphere bleeds directly over into "This Link Is Dead," which I'm pretty sure isn't about proper website maintenance."
https://www.overdrive.ie/review-deftones-ohms-champions-the-bands-32-year-career-in-a-way-that-previous-albums-have-failed-to-do/
Damn guys it sounds like this one is special .
Reading these reviews have given me literal chills. Goddamn we're so close!
One thing to keep everyone in perspective (and Im not trying to be the guy who sees the glass half empty here): I dont remember a SINGLE review til this day, about a new Deftones record anyway, that said something bad. They might exist, but...
A good review only means the guy writing it, liked what he heard. I remember reading a lot of good reviews about Gore, and despite the fact I like some songs there, I think the record missed something as a whole. Cant say exactly what, but you guys got my point.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 21, 2020, 03:33 PM
One thing to keep everyone in perspective (and Im not trying to be the guy who sees the glass half empty here): I dont remember a SINGLE review til this day, about a new Deftones record anyway, that said something bad. They might exist, but...
A good review only means the guy writing it, liked what he heard. I remember reading a lot of good reviews about Gore, and despite the fact I like some songs there, I think the record missed something as a whole. Cant say exactly what, but you guys got my point.
So very true. Keep perspective guys!
Quote from: Far away on Sep 21, 2020, 03:33 PM
One thing to keep everyone in perspective (and Im not trying to be the guy who sees the glass half empty here): I dont remember a SINGLE review til this day, about a new Deftones record anyway, that said something bad. They might exist, but...
A good review only means the guy writing it, liked what he heard. I remember reading a lot of good reviews about Gore, and despite the fact I like some songs there, I think the record missed something as a whole. Cant say exactly what, but you guys got my point.
What gets me excited is what is said about the songs, not that they are positive.
I'm going into this album expecting it to be the best Deftones album ever, and if it doesn't blow White Pony out of the water, I'm gonna denounce Deftones forever.
... okay, if it's at the very least a marginal improvement over Gore I'll be happy
This anticipation is killing me! Thanks for posting all these reviews. Already at this point any reservations I've had are gone thanks to the two singles. Gore was a huge disappointment for me btu I feel like the boys are back with this one. Can't wait to enjoy fully!
Well boys, we're really into the home straight now. I hope there's something that everybody enjoys on this album and that it's not too polarising. Reviews certainly suggest that there's at least 2/3 genuine gems to be excited about and Abe has been mentioned a few times as bringing something special which, as a drummer, is particularly exciting.
Anyway hope we all enjoy the final buildup and the album itself.
every review so far has been 8 or 9/10
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 21, 2020, 04:11 PM
every review so far has been 8 or 9/10
until Fandango comes in and give it a 3.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 02:09 PM
Stereogum review:
https://www.stereogum.com/2098672/deftones-ohms-review/franchises/reviews/premature-evaluation/
This guy pulled outta retirement to review this gem
Curious what Pitchfork will say. They've been high on the band recently but they definitely haven't always been.
Reading that lyric sample from spell of mathematics gave me Robert smith vibes and sure enough a different review mentioned the same thing lol. Can't wait to hear this.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Sep 21, 2020, 04:57 PM
Curious what Pitchfork will say. They've been high on the band recently but they definitely haven't always been.
The guy who gave Gore a good review on Pitchfork and did the White Pony retrospective review is a pretty big fan of them (although his taste is a little weird, he gave Team Sleep Woodstock a middling review and Crosses a bad review - I like Gore more than most, but those are both more consistent). He said Genesis is a banger on Twitter, so If they give him the review again, he'll probably give it an 8 at least.
^
That's Ian Cohen. He loves them.
He'll give it a high score (by Pitchfork standards obviously, meaning like a 7.6).
Quote from: buflen on Sep 21, 2020, 02:35 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 21, 2020, 02:09 PM
Stereogum review:
https://www.stereogum.com/2098672/deftones-ohms-review/franchises/reviews/premature-evaluation/
Man the reviewer says a lot of lame thing in this review, but he actually made my laugh out loud with this:
"That atmosphere bleeds directly over into "This Link Is Dead," which I'm pretty sure isn't about proper website maintenance."
😂 yeah, it's like they smoked a bowl of dank 'adjectives' before writing the review. 😂
That stereogum review was hilarious :)
"It describes the formation of the galaxies and millions of other planets with intelligent life overseen by God, and also follows the life of Jesus with bonus sidequests and shit that we didn't get in the first telling. At least I think. It's 2,000-plus pages and they don't pay me enough to do that much research for a record review. I know it all sounds like Muse fucking around in a YouTube k-hole, but that sort of stargazing sense of wonder and smallness in the face of the infinite pervades the album so it's got to be worth mentioning.
Sometimes Ohms also simply sounds like Moreno is singing about fucking, too, so it's not all heady shit."
This reviewer went in 😂😂😂😂 That was a funny read.
https://www.punkrocktheory.com/music_reviews/deftones-ohms
It's pretty amusing that the song where Chino screams "I have no patience for expectation!" has easily been the most hyped-up song in the reviews.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 21, 2020, 03:41 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 21, 2020, 03:33 PM
One thing to keep everyone in perspective (and Im not trying to be the guy who sees the glass half empty here): I dont remember a SINGLE review til this day, about a new Deftones record anyway, that said something bad. They might exist, but...
A good review only means the guy writing it, liked what he heard. I remember reading a lot of good reviews about Gore, and despite the fact I like some songs there, I think the record missed something as a whole. Cant say exactly what, but you guys got my point.
What gets me excited is what is said about the songs, not that they are positive.
Thats fair.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 21, 2020, 05:38 PM
https://www.punkrocktheory.com/music_reviews/deftones-ohms
Yeah this person just ripped off the last persons review 95% with the same words phrases and descriptions. It's no mistake. I'm loving these praises and ratings though
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 21, 2020, 05:38 PM
https://www.punkrocktheory.com/music_reviews/deftones-ohms
Yeah this person just ripped off the last persons review 95% with the same words phrases and descriptions. It’s no mistake. I’m loving these praises and ratings though
The SEO joke is suspect, but they are describing the same songs? And it would be a extremely fast plagiarism.
grammarly says:
We have found significant plagiarism in your text and have also detected 14 writing issues.
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grammarly says:
We have found significant plagiarism in your text and have also detected 14 writing issues.
Telling you, it felt like the same person wrote for both outlets. Btw, whos grammarly
This is a good one
https://www.xsnoize.com/album-review-deftones-ohms/
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grammarly says:
We have found significant plagiarism in your text and have also detected 14 writing issues.
Telling you, it felt like the same person wrote for both outlets. Btw, whos grammarly
:D really?
It looks like nothing but positive opinion so far! That is awesome. I'm so excited for the second half of this record.
A review compared Radiant city from past songs by saying "the skittish strobing rush of 'Radiant City', the brakeless bastard child of 'Swerve City' and Saturday Night Wrist's 'Rapture'
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A review compared Radiant city from past songs by saying "the skittish strobing rush of 'Radiant City', the brakeless bastard child of 'Swerve City' and Saturday Night Wrist's 'Rapture'
"Infusing the record with sandblasted grit whilst still allowing the more prominent synthetic soundscapes of Frank Delgado to coat the record with a translucent aura, Ohms is incandescent with a perfectly balanced tone that wondrously showcases each respective member firing furiously on all cylinders, in both synch and harmony. This becomes blindingly transparent on the simply colossal obsidian clad 'The Spell Of Mathematics', the oceanic allure of the rapturous 'Pompeji' and the skittish strobing rush of 'Radiant City', the brakeless bastard child of 'Swerve City' and Saturday Night Wrist's 'Rapture'."
Like.. yeahh... we need this album ASAP lol
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 21, 2020, 07:15 PM
A review compared Radiant city from past songs by saying "the skittish strobing rush of 'Radiant City', the brakeless bastard child of 'Swerve City' and Saturday Night Wrist's 'Rapture'
I'll ignore this because im not a fan of both of these songs. Comparing songs is kinda dumb though.
Yeahhhh... Not a fan of Swerve City or Rapture tbh lol. But maybe it'll still be good
Does anyone know when the preorder shipments for Europe start?
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 21, 2020, 07:09 PM
This is a good one
https://www.xsnoize.com/album-review-deftones-ohms/
"The album's structured in such a way that these songs flow into each other, whether through well-executed transitions or through some tracks picking up right where their predecessor left off – room to breathe is offered within these chameleonic songs themselves, rather than elsewhere, making for a seamless 46-minute listening experience."
This quote is what is giving me all of my excitement for this album, which I think Chino alluded to once in the past. One of my favorite part of KNY was how it flirted with being a prog-concept album with all of the intros, outros, and bleeds into songs. I can still remember being floored by Entombed moving directly into Graphic Nature. And that wasn't even a particularly imaginative transition. But it went a long way into making the album feel like a journey, with each song telling a different and necessary part of a connected story.
I've been a little let down by both Genesis and Ohms so far. Both are good, but felt like there could have been so much more to them if they'd just tweaked them ever so slightly and expanded them. Hopefully, this album really does feel like one cohesive experience so I feel less let down by the underwhelming quality of each individual track by its lonesome.
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
my god this is dumb
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
Hell yes, Harold Budd. He's been one of my favorite artists for YEARS and no one ever talks about him. I know Biran Eno is supposed to be the ambient master, but Budd is just as good. His album "The White Arcades" is basically a masterpiece of creepy beauty and anything he does with Robin Guthrie is just about flawless.
Got a bit of this and a bit of that into this:
https://www.deftonesworld.com/ohms-album-reviews-song-by-song/
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Sep 21, 2020, 07:59 PM
Got a bit of this and a bit of that into this:
https://www.deftonesworld.com/ohms-album-reviews-song-by-song/
Awesome. Thanks, Nuno!
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Hell yes, Harold Budd. He's been one of my favorite artists for YEARS and no one ever talks about him. I know Biran Eno is supposed to be the ambient master, but Budd is just as good. His album "The White Arcades" is basically a masterpiece of creepy beauty and anything he does with Robin Guthrie is just about flawless.
I love Harold Budd! Both Ambient 2 and The Pearl are amazing as far as his Eno collaborations go, but The Moon And The Melodies by Cocteau Twins is what first exposed me to him. I adore that album.
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https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
Hell yes, Harold Budd. He's been one of my favorite artists for YEARS and no one ever talks about him. I know Biran Eno is supposed to be the ambient master, but Budd is just as good. His album "The White Arcades" is basically a masterpiece of creepy beauty and anything he does with Robin Guthrie is just about flawless.
Yes he's brilliant. Was listening to Perhaps the other day.
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Sep 21, 2020, 07:59 PM
Got a bit of this and a bit of that into this:
https://www.deftonesworld.com/ohms-album-reviews-song-by-song/
Thanks Nuno! Beyond stoked for this album already. :D
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
Looks like winners to me, Chino has great taste in music. Harold Budd and Deerhunter!
Woah. All the Harold Budd love has me feeling some kind of way. I'm OG Deftones fan since hearing 7 Words on my local alternative radio station's "cage Match." Been through a few different Deftones forums, even the short-lived yet awesome Team Sleep forum, and lurked here for years. But I feel as if I have finally found my place.
Anyone here heard of/listen to Kwajbasket? If so, I've truly found my home...
It's no wonder they have a penchant for mood and atmosphere when they listen to stuff like this.
the dream team right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBm_9r1YAc4
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Sep 21, 2020, 08:21 PM
Woah. All the Harold Budd love has me feeling some kind of way. I'm OG Deftones fan since hearing 7 Words on my local alternative radio station's "cage Match." Been through a few different Deftones forums, even the short-lived yet awesome Team Sleep forum, and lurked here for years. But I feel as if I have finally found my place.
Anyone here heard of/listen to Kwajbasket? If so, I've truly found my home...
:D that's good to hear! No i haven't heard that group before but I've discovered so much new music thanks to this forum and its members. I'll have to check them out!
Quote from: Draken on Sep 21, 2020, 08:24 PM
It's no wonder they have a penchant for mood and atmosphere when they listen to stuff like this.
the dream team right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBm_9r1YAc4
Cocteau Twins have become one of my favourite bands ever over the last few years.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 21, 2020, 08:26 PM
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Sep 21, 2020, 08:21 PM
Woah. All the Harold Budd love has me feeling some kind of way. I'm OG Deftones fan since hearing 7 Words on my local alternative radio station's "cage Match." Been through a few different Deftones forums, even the short-lived yet awesome Team Sleep forum, and lurked here for years. But I feel as if I have finally found my place.
Anyone here heard of/listen to Kwajbasket? If so, I've truly found my home...
:D that's good to hear! No i haven't heard that group before but I've discovered so much new music thanks to this forum and its members. I'll have to check them out!
start with "Science Fiction Soundtrack." Perfect guitar-ambient album
As far as ambient goes, next to Eno/Budd, my favorite ambient artist is probably Stars Of The Lid. If anyone here is not familiar and loves warm, meditative music, stop what you're doing and listen to them immediately. But I digress, I'll stop before we get yelled at for getting off topic
Listening to H.Budd for 1st time right now and it sounds amazing. Great recommendation guys!
With all this reviews we are getting, it feels like it's about to leak... but a the same time feels it's not. They did a great job.
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 21, 2020, 08:54 PM
With all this reviews we are getting, it feels like it's about to leak... but a the same time feels it's not. They did a great job.
It's Inevitable
https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 21, 2020, 08:54 PM
With all this reviews we are getting, it feels like it's about to leak... but a the same time feels it's not. They did a great job.
That's just the online review embargo being lifted. Streams were sent out to a lot of these online reviewers last week, I believe.
I wish I never knew they were fans of the show Lost. I'm getting serious Lost vibes by the descriptions in the reviews. I mean about to be killed for reasons you don't know by forces unknown and sounds of the ocean and seagulls and just about everything... freedom?all that. I also know parts of diamond eyes if I recall correctly were inspired by Lost... TPID? I'm starting to believe Chino might be obsessed with the show just a thought. And I imagine that can bring out some damn good writing and inspiration and I like the idea
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 09:39 PM
I wish I never knew they were fans of the show Lost. I'm getting serious Lost vibes by the descriptions in the reviews. I mean about to be killed for reasons you don't know by forces unknown and sounds of the ocean and seagulls and just about everything... freedom?all that. I also know parts of diamond eyes if I recall correctly were inspired by Lost... TPID? I'm starting to believe Chino might be obsessed with the show just a thought. And I imagine that can bring out some damn good writing and inspiration and I like the idea
next one it'll be Cobra Kai, Chino'll be like "HEeeYaaA!!, WaX oNn wAX oFF!!!"
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Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 21, 2020, 08:54 PM
With all this reviews we are getting, it feels like it's about to leak... but a the same time feels it's not. They did a great job.
It's Inevitable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZgeIReY04c
I'm sorry but I really need the album to leak, the reviews are killing my patience. Obviously I don't "want" it to leak for their sake, but I REALLY can't wait to listen to the album.
I want it to leak cause I already pre-ordered that bundle+hoodie lol
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 21, 2020, 10:03 PM
I want it to leak cause I already pre-ordered that bundle+hoodie lol
Same. Won't hurt to listen to it a couple days earlier ;)
Ha cobra kai! I mean damn, " How can you take your life?"... " How will you spend your time?" rising out if the ashes, i'm positive theres no sense of what ive been told or being told, were turning time inside out??!! LOST ::)
I mean I could go on and on about that theme in my head but I'm not trying to convince anyone that's what it is it's just my thought and I sort of believe it. It's kind of like how you put the video game theme into rocket skates that I really liked but never would have thought because I'm not a gamer and I don't see them playing video games these days but it's really cool.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 09:39 PM
I wish I never knew they were fans of the show Lost. I'm getting serious Lost vibes by the descriptions in the reviews. I mean about to be killed for reasons you don't know by forces unknown and sounds of the ocean and seagulls and just about everything... freedom?all that. I also know parts of diamond eyes if I recall correctly were inspired by Lost... TPID? I'm starting to believe Chino might be obsessed with the show just a thought. And I imagine that can bring out some damn good writing and inspiration and I like the idea
Haha Chino named a song 'This place is death' that was the title of a LOST episode that aired around the time he would have been naming the songs for the 'Diamond Eyes' record. ;)
wouldn't that be some shit if cause of the Gore vinyl rip leak they all said "fuck you guys here you go" and gave us that as a release?
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 09:39 PM
I wish I never knew they were fans of the show Lost. I'm getting serious Lost vibes by the descriptions in the reviews. I mean about to be killed for reasons you don't know by forces unknown and sounds of the ocean and seagulls and just about everything... freedom?all that. I also know parts of diamond eyes if I recall correctly were inspired by Lost... TPID? I'm starting to believe Chino might be obsessed with the show just a thought. And I imagine that can bring out some damn good writing and inspiration and I like the idea
Haha Chino named a song 'This place is death' that was the title of a LOST episode that aired around the time he would have been naming the songs for the 'Diamond Eyes' record. ;)
Yes the show ended I believe in 2010 so it was probably the last season maybe even the last episode I can't remember. That one I know or knew already came from that but I feel like he has been really inspired by that ever since... maybe not so much with Koi but with diamond eyes, gore and now maybe this. Genesis can be interpreted in some of the lyrics as being inspired by Lost. He's a perfect artist to write from inspiration on such a theme. It's totally Chino when he is digging deep. Maybe KING KONG GET SOME that i hate Was inspired by the black smoke monster! Ha ha JK
Quote from: buflen on Sep 21, 2020, 07:58 PM
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
my god this is dumb
Man, I see you complain and judge and negate everytime and everywhere. So for a change just stfu
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 10:43 PM
Ha cobra kai! I mean damn, " How can you take your life?"... " How will you spend your time?" rising out if the ashes, i'm positive theres no sense of what ive been told or being told, were turning time inside out??!! LOST ::)
I mean I could go on and on about that theme in my head but I'm not trying to convince anyone that's what it is it's just my thought and I sort of believe it. It's kind of like how you put the video game theme into rocket skates that I really liked but never would have thought because I'm not a gamer and I don't see them playing video games these days but it's really cool.
lol no one's arguing with you... it's no secret they are fans of the show. During the making of Eros (i think) they had a picture up on their website with something related to Lost, and TPID title is definitely in reference to the show.
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 21, 2020, 07:58 PM
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
my god this is dumb
Man, I see you complain and judge and negate everytime and everywhere. So for a change just stfu
Yes plz.... STFU. I cant believe u took the time to type that out like we care
Quote from: Draken on Sep 21, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 21, 2020, 10:43 PM
Ha cobra kai! I mean damn, " How can you take your life?"... " How will you spend your time?" rising out if the ashes, i'm positive theres no sense of what ive been told or being told, were turning time inside out??!! LOST ::)
I mean I could go on and on about that theme in my head but I'm not trying to convince anyone that's what it is it's just my thought and I sort of believe it. It's kind of like how you put the video game theme into rocket skates that I really liked but never would have thought because I'm not a gamer and I don't see them playing video games these days but it's really cool.
lol no one's arguing with you... it's no secret they are fans of the show. During the making of Eros (i think) they had a picture up on their website with something related to Lost, and TPID title is definitely in reference to the show.
Why do u think im arguing with someone? If it bugs u that i couldnt help myself but add more of my thoughts about it, i dont care. And i knew abt the TPID idea like i said. Geez Louize
Genesis is solid. I really like this track. Not into comparing somgs bc they dont write songs to b like other songs.... just sounds like they keep getting sharper n sharper and will always find new ideas no matter the doubt or EXPECTATIONS. Thats annoying too about Deftones fans especially. Good song Deftones
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https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
my god this is dumb
Man, I see you complain and judge and negate everytime and everywhere. So for a change just stfu
Yes plz.... STFU. I cant believe u took the time to type that out like we care
Doesn't take more than 10 secs to type whatever the hell I wanna type, and I guess you don't speak for everyone here.
Umm. I was talking to the negative guy here not u. Im not and never have spoken for anyone here so it was a mixup, u got it confused. :)
Awesome, I take my words back. Thanks for the clear up
Quote from: pannch on Sep 22, 2020, 12:25 AM
Awesome, I take my words back. Thanks for the clear up
NP anytime ;) i reacted that way to him probably bc i had another KID tell me "Lol, nobodys arguing with you" bc they instantly forgot this is a forum where we all can express our thoughts especially positive welcomed thoughts, and i wasnt arguing with anyone bc nobody said anything shitty to me abt it until he did. I was venting sorry
i love u guys, pls don't fight,
I won't shut up if I think an article about an article just listing 10 songs chino listen in his car is dumb.
at least the origin article had more details.
which I saw after commenting on theprp and their, IN MY OPINION, lazy "journalism".
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Quote from: kurtone on Sep 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
my god this is dumb
Man, I see you complain and judge and negate everytime and everywhere. So for a change just stfu
Yes plz.... STFU. I cant believe u took the time to type that out like we care
Doesn't take more than 10 secs to type whatever the hell I wanna type, and I guess you don't speak for everyone here.
And I can't believe you don't see the irony of this.
oh, i get it, you were the one that complained because people weren't answering your question like we owe you, and I called you out for it. It makes sense. Sorry for being rude, but i thought you were too.
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https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/21/news/deftones-chino-moreno-reveals-the-songs-he-listened-to-while-driving-to-the-studio-for-ohms-sessions/
my god this is dumb
Man, I see you complain and judge and negate everytime and everywhere. So for a change just stfu
Yes plz.... STFU. I cant believe u took the time to type that out like we care
You say a lot of things I don't care about and I dont go and complain about it. I just ignore it.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 02:15 AM
oh, i get it, you were the one that complained because people weren't answering your question. It makes sense.
Just goes onto prove your annoying miasmic presence here, and well, wasn't only me who said this. I rest my case, peace unto you
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 02:15 AM
oh, i get it, you were the one that complained because people weren't answering your question. It makes sense.
Just goes onto prove your annoying miasmic presence here, and well, wasn't only me who said this. I rest my case, peace unto you
Hey, I was looking into ways you could block me and hide my message, but I guess that's not something you can do on this board.
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oh, i get it, you were the one that complained because people weren't answering your question. It makes sense.
Just goes onto prove your annoying miasmic presence here, and well, wasn't only me who said this. I rest my case, peace unto you
Hey, I was looking into ways you could block me and hide my message, but I guess that's not something you can do on this board.
Ahh well I don't intend to do that, seems I wasted your time
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oh, i get it, you were the one that complained because people weren't answering your question. It makes sense.
Just goes onto prove your annoying miasmic presence here, and well, wasn't only me who said this. I rest my case, peace unto you
Hey, I was looking into ways you could block me and hide my message, but I guess that's not something you can do on this board.
Ahh well I don't intend to do that, seems I wasted your time
well then just ignore me, just like I will, and we will both be happy.
lol
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 22, 2020, 02:38 AM
lol
I'm glad the conversation entertained you ;D
btw I just figured out how to put someone on a ignore list. It's just super awkward.
to go back on topic:
was this interview with chino already shared here? it was posted today and is pretty interesting
https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html
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Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 22, 2020, 02:38 AM
lol
I'm glad the conversation entertained you ;D
btw I just figured out how to put someone on a ignore list. It's just super awkward.
to go back on topic:
was this interview with chino already shared here? it was posted today and is pretty interesting
https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html
it was this "well then just ignore me, just like I will, and we will both be happy."
;D meeeeeeeeeeh
I can't believe we're getting a new Deftones record and a new Fleet Foxes record within 3 days of each other.. idk if there's any fleet foxes fans in here but there one of the most beautiful bands of all time. Robin has one of the best voices on planet earth. What a beautiful time to be alive.
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 22, 2020, 03:34 AM
I can't believe we're getting a new Deftones record and a new Fleet Foxes record within 3 days of each other.. idk if there's any fleet foxes fans in here but there one of the most beautiful bands of all time. Robin has one of the best voices on planet earth. What a beautiful time to be alive.
I'm not a fleet foxes fan per se but I did end up helping them learn how to play Magic: the Gathering one time lol
I had no idea who they were
In 24 Hours I get to Open my 2020 Gift...
Oh you sly dog you..
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 22, 2020, 04:01 AM
In 24 Hours I get to Open my 2020 Gift...
Hellz yeah! Dig it u lucky soul you
Two more hours
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 04:35 AM
Two more hours
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lol here we go again....
Well if we just keep saying it, eventually it will be true. We are so close....
DEFTONES!!!!
Sorry Kids bit a few Crowns go a long way...
Having heard a few Tracks I need to temper my expectations .. but it's Hard!
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Two more hours
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lol here we go again....
Well if we just keep saying it, eventually it will be true. We are so close....
Yeah it's crazy to think but we are a couple days away now..sleeping these last few nights has been tough. The anticipation is at an all time high
I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 22, 2020, 04:48 AM
DEFTONES!!!!
Sorry Kids bit a few Crowns go a long way...
Having heard a few Tracks I need to temper my expectations .. but it's Hard!
I offered someone 20 bucks for a rip today but they said I should just wait lol
Heard urantis on reddit for the few seconds tha thread stayed up
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 04:57 AM
I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
You're strong, I heard a 1 minute leak Of genesis in Poor piss quality since July, then Urantia... and then the first half of the record. Wouldn't say the whole experience is ruined for me, but I just can't help it when leaks are floating around. I admire you haha.
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I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
You're strong, I heard a 1 minute leak Of genesis in Poor piss quality since July, then Urantia... and then the first half of the record. Wouldn't say the whole experience is ruined for me, but I just can't help it when leaks are floating around. I admire you haha.
I wouldn't have touch those leaks with a ten foot pole, but the only reasons I decided to ignore Genesis is because of how close it was from the release date, or full album leak. I listened to Ohms (single) as soon as I could.
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I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
You're strong, I heard a 1 minute leak Of genesis in Poor piss quality since July, then Urantia... and then the first half of the record. Wouldn't say the whole experience is ruined for me, but I just can't help it when leaks are floating around. I admire you haha.
Man maybe I'm just out of touch but I've looking up and down for stuff like that with no luck
Now Watch How Wild it Gets!!!!
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 05:18 AM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 22, 2020, 05:03 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 04:57 AM
I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
You're strong, I heard a 1 minute leak Of genesis in Poor piss quality since July, then Urantia... and then the first half of the record. Wouldn't say the whole experience is ruined for me, but I just can't help it when leaks are floating around. I admire you haha.
Man maybe I'm just out of touch but I've looking up and down for stuff like that with no luck
The label did a great job to control the spread of the leak I think. Anyway, you should feel lucky you haven't heard it.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 22, 2020, 05:24 AM
Now Watch How Wild it Gets!!!!
It's about to leak?
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 04:57 AM
I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
Same here! But for both singles lol. I didn't think I would be able to do it but so far so good. I've just heard the first few seconds of each. Just a couple more days (if that)!!
Quote from: all3n_y on Sep 22, 2020, 05:31 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 04:57 AM
I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
Same here! But for both singles lol. I didn't think I would be able to do it but so far so good. I've just heard the first few seconds of each. Just a couple more days (if that)!!
wow you haven't heard Ohms yet? Now that is impressive
Quote from: Draken on Sep 22, 2020, 05:37 AM
Quote from: all3n_y on Sep 22, 2020, 05:31 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 04:57 AM
I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
Same here! But for both singles lol. I didn't think I would be able to do it but so far so good. I've just heard the first few seconds of each. Just a couple more days (if that)!!
wow you haven't heard Ohms yet? Now that is impressive
I have not. It's been a daily struggle lol. I probably would've caved if it was a song in the middle of the album, but I decided it would be best to hear it after the album released since it's the final track.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 21, 2020, 06:36 AM
According to Annie Hardy, that outro part only ended up on the record because Chino didn't respond to an email from his manager.
Really !?!? That's crazy... Do you have more details on this, I'm really curious.......
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 22, 2020, 05:46 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 21, 2020, 06:36 AM
According to Annie Hardy, that outro part only ended up on the record because Chino didn't respond to an email from his manager.
Really !?!? That's crazy... Do you have more details on this, I'm really curious.......
Yes, I'd love to know more about the Anal residue parts
Quote from: all3n_y on Sep 22, 2020, 05:40 AM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 22, 2020, 05:37 AM
Quote from: all3n_y on Sep 22, 2020, 05:31 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 04:57 AM
I can't believe I still have not heard Genesis and was able to control myself.
Same here! But for both singles lol. I didn't think I would be able to do it but so far so good. I've just heard the first few seconds of each. Just a couple more days (if that)!!
wow you haven't heard Ohms yet? Now that is impressive
I have not. It's been a daily struggle lol. I probably would've caved if it was a song in the middle of the album, but I decided it would be best to hear it after the album released since it's the final track.
the final track for me is always my least listened song of an album, as I always start from the beginning, but i rarely have time to finish. So having listened to it quite a bit already is not something that I regret. But overplaying the 1st track before release is super annoying.
that's amazing that you guys have had the willpower to refrain from listening. It will all be worth it for you guys! Can't wait to see this place explode!
I have literally zero willpower
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 22, 2020, 05:24 AM
Now Watch How Wild it Gets!!!!
Broooo... Just put it up already haha
Quote from: zeromindset on Sep 22, 2020, 06:50 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 22, 2020, 05:24 AM
Now Watch How Wild it Gets!!!!
Broooo... Just put it up already haha
i agree! He's onto something.
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 22, 2020, 05:46 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 21, 2020, 06:36 AM
According to Annie Hardy, that outro part only ended up on the record because Chino didn't respond to an email from his manager.
Really !?!? That's crazy... Do you have more details on this, I'm really curious.......
3:17
https://youtu.be/xtmPLcroh30
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 07:29 AM
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 22, 2020, 05:46 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 21, 2020, 06:36 AM
According to Annie Hardy, that outro part only ended up on the record because Chino didn't respond to an email from his manager.
Really !?!? That's crazy... Do you have more details on this, I'm really curious.......
3:17
https://youtu.be/xtmPLcroh30
Is so odd to me how people waste their own time to do those things. A hateful e-mail as it is, is a pretty horrible thing, but... because of a song? Or because some women thought she had sex with Chino? C'mon.
Do I like the song? Fuck no. But why would I waste my God damn time writing an e-mail filled with hateful shit? I'd rather use the time and energy with something else.
jeez...
Anyone from the UK had a notification of orders shipping yet?
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:43 AM
Anyone from the UK had a notification of orders shipping yet?
Not as yet - have you?
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:43 AM
Anyone from the UK had a notification of orders shipping yet?
Mines still showing as processing - are we expecting them to arrive in the post on Friday?
Not had anything yet, worried it won't turn up on Friday!
Well, depending upon the postal method that they're sent by, they'd need to be despatched by Thursday for there to be any chance of us receiving them on Friday. At least a digital download is included in vinyl pre-orders.
Another 9/10
https://www.gigwise.com/reviews/3389976/album-review-deftones-ohms
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 10:43 AM
Another 9/10
https://www.gigwise.com/reviews/3389976/album-review-deftones-ohms
Some solid reviews coming in!
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 10:43 AM
Another 9/10
https://www.gigwise.com/reviews/3389976/album-review-deftones-ohms
Ah man, thanks for posting. This wait is interminable!
Im tired of these reviews to be honest. Now I know theyre all good but that is so subjective
Didn't Gore get really good reviews too?
"Undoubtedly, the albums showpiece is the 'The Spell of Mathematics' - a shapeshifting slab of shoegaze that contains one of the finest choruses the band has ever written. After the spin-cycle of ghostly keys and morphing basslines subside, it delicately retreats into an ambient soundscape that merges into 'Pompeji', where Moreno uses biblical imagery to address his demons amid a nine-string onslaught courtesy of Carpenter."
Damn, that's exciting.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 22, 2020, 11:33 AM
"Undoubtedly, the albums showpiece is the ‘The Spell of Mathematics’ - a shapeshifting slab of shoegaze that contains one of the finest choruses the band has ever written. After the spin-cycle of ghostly keys and morphing basslines subside, it delicately retreats into an ambient soundscape that merges into ‘Pompeji’, where Moreno uses biblical imagery to address his demons amid a nine-string onslaught courtesy of Carpenter."
Damn, that's exciting.
Wow, really? Tbh this song is VERY meh in my opinion. The chorus is AIDS. One of their worst ever, but the rest of the song is OK. At least I know there are much better songs on the album.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 22, 2020, 11:33 AM
"Undoubtedly, the albums showpiece is the 'The Spell of Mathematics' - a shapeshifting slab of shoegaze that contains one of the finest choruses the band has ever written. After the spin-cycle of ghostly keys and morphing basslines subside, it delicately retreats into an ambient soundscape that merges into 'Pompeji', where Moreno uses biblical imagery to address his demons amid a nine-string onslaught courtesy of Carpenter."
Damn, that's exciting.
Wow, really? Tbh this song is VERY meh in my opinion. The chorus is AIDS. One of their worst ever, but the rest of the song is OK. At least I know there are much better songs on the album.
where did you hear that song?
^ It was played on Chino's Mixlr.
The Spell of Mathematics is greatness. The chorus is very strong, but my favorite part is the space rock climax that sounds like traveling through a black hole.
I see.
It's funny how it hasn't leaked yet but one of the chances for it to be leaked comes from chino himself
Based on the description in the reviews, I'm fully expecting Pompeji to be my favorite track.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 22, 2020, 11:33 AM
"Undoubtedly, the albums showpiece is the 'The Spell of Mathematics' - a shapeshifting slab of shoegaze that contains one of the finest choruses the band has ever written. After the spin-cycle of ghostly keys and morphing basslines subside, it delicately retreats into an ambient soundscape that merges into 'Pompeji', where Moreno uses biblical imagery to address his demons amid a nine-string onslaught courtesy of Carpenter."
Damn, that's exciting.
Wow, really? Tbh this song is VERY meh in my opinion. The chorus is AIDS. One of their worst ever, but the rest of the song is OK. At least I know there are much better songs on the album.
There's very few Deftones songs that I don't absolutely love, so forgive me but I'm going to take the positive reviews as a better indication of my own feelings when I hear the album lol. I heard a few other members say the song is amazing too. But yeah, just depends on people's own personal tastes I guess.
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Sep 22, 2020, 12:08 PM
Based on the description in the reviews, I'm fully expecting Pompeji to be my favorite track.
I agree. When I first saw the tracklist, Pompeji was the one I was most intrigued by, and the descriptions make it sound incredible.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2020, 11:53 AM
^ It was played on Chino's Mixlr.
The Spell of Mathematics is greatness. The chorus is very strong, but my favorite part is the space rock climax that sounds like traveling through a black hole.
The description says it's shoegaze-y. Would you say it has kind of a ST vibe, or no?
Its so close now I can almost touch it. I saw a record store owner on reddit that had listened to it already. The reviews are all glowing. The hype is reaching high lives here.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:43 AM
Anyone from the UK had a notification of orders shipping yet?
Not yet. Ordered from UK webstore and also gold vinyl from Banquet.
Quote from: defsteve on Sep 22, 2020, 01:02 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:43 AM
Anyone from the UK had a notification of orders shipping yet?
Not yet. Ordered from UK webstore and also gold vinyl from Banquet.
Yeah same, pre ordered the gold vinyl from Crash Records in Leeds, sounds like some record stores already have received the stock, so hoping it gets posted soon
It'll be Sep 25 in less than 48 hours in New Zealand. The album will be officially out over there and of course that copy will spread around. We're so close to that release, and to a no-leak!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 22, 2020, 01:29 PM
It'll be Sep 25 in less than 48 hours in New Zealand. The album will be officially out over there and of course that copy will spread around. We're so close to that release, and to a no-leak!
Absolutely. Some albums just don't leak, like they did a few years ago. They've done really well this go round. As you say, the album will appear online in two days but that doesn't constitute a leak as again, as you point out, it's purely circulation of the official release in NZ.
I mean, Ohms had the worse kind of leak, so I wouldn't say it didn't leak.
As achingly bad as I want to experience this album I am happy that it hasn't leaked. The label have done an excellent job.
They pulled good security on this release for sure. Bastards
Good on them and the people who haven't leaked it I say, glad I didn't crack and listen to anymore than 1 part of those shitty recordings
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 22, 2020, 12:21 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2020, 11:53 AM
^ It was played on Chino's Mixlr.
The Spell of Mathematics is greatness. The chorus is very strong, but my favorite part is the space rock climax that sounds like traveling through a black hole.
The description says it's shoegaze-y. Would you say it has kind of a ST vibe, or no?
I wasn't getting so much a shoegaze vibe, but it's been a while since I've heard it. Chino's vocals on it are pretty moody and trancelike, almost woozy. I'd describe it as moody space rock, so it's kind of a combination of S/T and SNW sounds IMO.
2 more hours.
I just adopted a dot!
https://www.deftones.com/adopt
Five star review from NME:
https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/deftones-ohms-review-2758739
Damn....NME gave it 5 stars, sure is a bold statement. I need this album now.
https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/deftones-ohms-review-2758739
This review calls the album haunting:
https://riffmagazine.com/album-reviews/deftones-ohms/
Critical darlings they are.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 22, 2020, 04:25 PM
I just adopted a dot!
https://www.deftones.com/adopt
Really neat idea, this.
https://twitter.com/deftones/status/1308438763131924480?s=19
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 04:34 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 22, 2020, 04:25 PM
I just adopted a dot!
https://www.deftones.com/adopt
Really neat idea, this.
https://twitter.com/deftones/status/1308438763131924480?s=19
I donated and replied to the email saying we should be able to download the album after donating. Lol
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 01:59 PM
I mean, Ohms had the worse kind of leak, so I wouldn't say it didn't leak.
I mean... it didn't.
I'm getting excited and all tingly feeling and shit.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 22, 2020, 04:25 PM
I just adopted a dot!
https://www.deftones.com/adopt
Ditto
Deftones' roadies started their own band ;D
https://loudwire.com/slipknot-deftones-guns-n-roses-roadies-form-band-knifes/ (https://loudwire.com/slipknot-deftones-guns-n-roses-roadies-form-band-knifes/)
Frank gave the best description for stipple art I've ever read lol
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Sep 22, 2020, 12:08 PM
Based on the description in the reviews, I'm fully expecting Pompeji to be my favorite track.
they all sound so intriguing rn, my curiosity seems to be leaning toward Ceremony atm. 2nd tracks on Deftones records tend to be pretty solid (Minus Blindfold, Lhabia, Digital Bath, Royal, Acid Hologram) plus maybe its that its a New Order song title as well. ;D Pompeji/This Link Is Dead though will most likely slay, based on descriptions.
[edit] btw @ghostofemilydickinson i had a chance to listen to Kwajbasket, good stuff. reminds me of Steve Roach.
OMG IT LEAKED!
I got water all over my floor, my hot water tank leaked, I need to call a plumber.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 05:54 PM
OMG IT LEAKED!
I got water all over my floor, my hot water tank leaked, I need to call a plumber.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/l35H2vj7mMgVaYkA1s/giphy.gif)
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2020, 06:02 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 05:54 PM
OMG IT LEAKED!
I got water all over my floor, my hot water tank leaked, I need to call a plumber.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/l35H2vj7mMgVaYkA1s/giphy.gif)
Hahahahaha
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 05:54 PM
OMG IT LEAKED!
I got water all over my floor, my hot water tank leaked, I need to call a plumber.
nice!
So chino got Pompeji from an artist called Camouflage. ???
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 06:09 PM
So chino got Pompeji from an artist called Camouflage. ???
Where do you see that at?
Chino's played that song before, maybe on a Mixlr set?
https://youtu.be/SNd4P3lCtFQ
Very out of topic, but for anyone that think Anthony Fantano doesn't like deftones, listen to the first 2 minutes of this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H_vmSQEGs
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 22, 2020, 06:12 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 06:09 PM
So chino got Pompeji from an artist called Camouflage. ???
Where do you see that at?
His twitter. He likes to share music quite often and i scrolled down a lottle bit and noticed. He picks names he just "likes". And im all rt with it. :)
Lol that's funny
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Very out of topic, but for anyone that think Anthony Fantano doesn't like deftones, listen to the first 2 minutes of this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H_vmSQEGs
no
What a killer idea with the dots. I love it. Go Deftones!
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Very out of topic, but for anyone that think Anthony Fantano doesn't like deftones, listen to the first 2 minutes of this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H_vmSQEGs
That guy can fuck off
And I'm the negative guy lol
ENGINE... I mean "ALBUM NO. 9" 8) cannot fuuuuuuuuucking waaaaaiiitt. Has anyone ever seen a record stay so high on reviewer ratings in all of music? Only one i can recall from a good source was Nas' perfect score for Illmatic way back. Anyone? I mean its 8 and up
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 22, 2020, 06:18 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Very out of topic, but for anyone that think Anthony Fantano doesn't like deftones, listen to the first 2 minutes of this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H_vmSQEGs
no
lol 2 hour ban
Wow, no leakage yet. This has to be a.. a new Record.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 22, 2020, 06:29 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 22, 2020, 06:18 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Very out of topic, but for anyone that think Anthony Fantano doesn't like deftones, listen to the first 2 minutes of this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H_vmSQEGs
no
lol 2 hour ban
lol, I was just surprised about Fantano highly praising deftones as one of the most enjoyable and important rock band in the last 20 years.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 06:28 PM
ENGINE... I mean "ALBUM NO. 9" 8) cannot fuuuuuuuuucking waaaaaiiitt. Has anyone ever seen a record stay so high on reviewer ratings in all of music? Only one i can recall from a good source was Nas' perfect score for Illmatic way back. Anyone? I mean its 8 and up
There'll be loads to be fair. Go on metacritic literally just for this year and I'm sure you'll find a few.
Music reviewer are very nice in general to music. Maybe too much. Except certain reviewers, ie pitchfork, or the 2 hours ban guy, but then they get a lot of hate from fanbase for saying their opinion.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 22, 2020, 06:29 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 22, 2020, 06:18 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Very out of topic, but for anyone that think Anthony Fantano doesn't like deftones, listen to the first 2 minutes of this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H_vmSQEGs
no
lol 2 hour ban
lol, I was just surprised about Fantano highly praising deftones as one of the most enjoyable and important rock band in the last 20 years.
Never listened to him in my life but maybe hes just the type of person to "jump on a band wagon". Btw, this album will do that to a few lucky souls. Happens every time. They get bigger.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 06:37 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 06:28 PM
ENGINE... I mean "ALBUM NO. 9" 8) cannot fuuuuuuuuucking waaaaaiiitt. Has anyone ever seen a record stay so high on reviewer ratings in all of music? Only one i can recall from a good source was Nas' perfect score for Illmatic way back. Anyone? I mean its 8 and up
There'll be loads to be fair. Go on metacritic literally just for this year and I'm sure you'll find a few.
Ok thnx. I dont really get into too much digging on reviews so i probably dont realize it bc of just that. It still surprises and hypes me up to the high heavens!
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 22, 2020, 06:18 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Very out of topic, but for anyone that think Anthony Fantano doesn't like deftones, listen to the first 2 minutes of this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H_vmSQEGs
no
he mentioned the fandango character, ban him pls
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Not mine!
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org/)
Track 4 is my favorite. I recommend that one
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org/)
Side note - new MGK has leaked today. 9/25 is the release date. Ohms will be the next one in few hours, I can feel it
Quote from: kleptoned on Sep 22, 2020, 07:39 PM
Track 4 is my favorite. I recommend that one Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org/)
I got knots in my throat
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 22, 2020, 07:47 PM
Side note - new MGK has leaked today. 9/25 is the release date. Ohms will be the next one in few hours, I can feel it
I noticed that as well. Its only a matter of time. 2 more hours?
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 22, 2020, 07:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 22, 2020, 07:47 PM
Side note - new MGK has leaked today. 9/25 is the release date. Ohms will be the next one in few hours, I can feel it
I fuckin hope so. I just yelled at my fiance of 15 years to just leave me the fuck alone when she was trying to talk to me and now I feel like such an asshole. I just need this fucking album >:(
Tell her Deftones made you do it. She will understand. If she doesnt, dump her ass.
Who wouldnt support your loved one when its about Deftones?
ps: CONTAIN HIGH DOSE OF SARCASM. Feel like saying that, you know... just in case.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org/)
Who still fall for this crap?
I'm assuming it's a dick pic
Quote from: Far away on Sep 22, 2020, 07:59 PM
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 22, 2020, 07:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 22, 2020, 07:47 PM
Side note - new MGK has leaked today. 9/25 is the release date. Ohms will be the next one in few hours, I can feel it
Children like deftones too. Therefore, some of em come here to entertain us ;D
I fuckin hope so. I just yelled at my fiance of 15 years to just leave me the fuck alone when she was trying to talk to me and now I feel like such an asshole. I just need this fucking album >:(
Tell her Deftones made you do it. She will understand. If she doesnt, dump her ass.
Who wouldnt support your loved one when its about Deftones?
ps: CONTAIN HIGH DOSE OF SARCASM. Feel like saying that, you know... just in case.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org/)
Who still fall for this crap?
My bad, I was answering the "who still falls for this crap" question
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:16 PM
My bad, I was answering the "who still falls for this crap" question
Just watch:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I can't take it anymore. I need this album.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 08:27 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 08:26 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:16 PM
My bad, I was answering the "who still falls for this crap" question
Just watch:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/58754057/its-happening.jpg)
I will get atleast 10 stupid lurkers with this shitpost
his face just made me laugh so hard... wtf is wrong with me? lol
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 08:27 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 08:26 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:16 PM
My bad, I was answering the "who still falls for this crap" question
Just watch:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/58754057/its-happening.jpg)
I will get atleast 10 stupid lurkers with this shitpost
Whos dick does three old men gotta suck to get a leak around here
Every hour it doesn't leak a kitten dies.
I bet a few of us will be disappointed on first listen as a result of this hype.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 08:44 PM
I bet a few of us will be disappointed on first listen as a result of this hype.
At least 3 people
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 08:44 PM
I bet a few of us will be disappointed on first listen as a result of this hype.
For sure, that's always the case. I'll gonna give it two or three full listens through before I express my thoughts here.
Can't wait to see what some of you say about Ceremony's chorus lol.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2020, 08:48 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 08:44 PM
I bet a few of us will be disappointed on first listen as a result of this hype.
For sure, that's always the case. I'll gonna give it two or three full listens through before I express my thoughts here.
Can't wait to see what some of you say about Ceremony's chorus lol.
I think its an illusion. Im leaving
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 08:44 PM
I bet a few of us will be disappointed on first listen as a result of this hype.
This is so true...
It's like I'm seeing those comments already: "boooo, this is link is dead is not as heavy as I expected"
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 22, 2020, 08:52 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 08:44 PM
I bet a few of us will be disappointed on first listen as a result of this hype.
This is so true...
It's like I'm seeing those comments already: "boooo, this is link is dead is not as heavy as I expected"
Oh I can see it now
Trying to temper expectations, but with how great both songs and the reviews are, I can't help but be antsy for this to drop. I'm not sure if it's the lack of an early leak, but I'm just a tad bit more excited for this to come out than usual. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
Jesus these final waiting moments are hard.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 22, 2020, 08:59 PM
Jesus these final waiting moments are hard.
very hard and very sour
Y'all calm the fuck down. 2 more hours.
;D
Quote from: Far away on Sep 22, 2020, 08:31 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 22, 2020, 08:27 PM
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 22, 2020, 08:16 PM
My bad, I was answering the "who still falls for this crap" question
Just watch:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
THE ALBUM JUST LEAKED, DOWNLOAD HERE >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8drXawOjAngdVljQ2hKQXZSTzA (http://lemonparty.org)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/58754057/its-happening.jpg)
I will get atleast 10 stupid lurkers with this shitpost
his face just made me laugh so hard... wtf is wrong with me? lol
Carrie Underwood just leaked. Release date is Sept 25. 2 more hours??? Its inevitable right?
Carrie Underwood would certainly be more mainstream successul than Deftones, so no reason it wouldn't leak any time... aaaannnnnnnyyyyyyy timeeeeee.
IDLES leaked earlier today too.
well If it doesn't leak soon at least I'll have this Carrie Underwood Christmas album...
Perfect distraction is other music or an activity outdoors IMO. It helps with this. Just reminding yall
Ok I will get it to you guys before bedtime
Sorry it took so long
I don't go outside and other music is inferior, so silence pleb. Back to refreshing feverishly
Besides, we will all be longing to do this and be like this again soon after it comes. Gonna b a couple more years besides Blk Stallion and "maybe" a side project. ITS COMING 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
I really hope thats not who you are ;)
Not Mine.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758090365168517190/120084692_10164683476455724_8370427614610708337_n.png?width=428&height=571)
another one
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758091945544253470/wcqpc1jcyro51.png?width=571&height=571)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 22, 2020, 10:25 PM
Not Mine.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758090365168517190/120084692_10164683476455724_8370427614610708337_n.png?width=428&height=571)
*whistles*
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 22, 2020, 10:25 PM
Not Mine.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758090365168517190/120084692_10164683476455724_8370427614610708337_n.png?width=428&height=571)
that's a sexy cover art
I wonder if all the Aussies and Kiwis are posting these
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 22, 2020, 10:25 PM
Not Mine.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758090365168517190/120084692_10164683476455724_8370427614610708337_n.png?width=428&height=571)
another one
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758091945544253470/wcqpc1jcyro51.png?width=571&height=571)
Where are the pics from? Just random people who've got it early for some reason?
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2020, 08:48 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 22, 2020, 08:44 PM
I bet a few of us will be disappointed on first listen as a result of this hype.
For sure, that's always the case. I'll gonna give it two or three full listens through before I express my thoughts here.
Can't wait to see what some of you say about Ceremony's chorus lol.
Because (in your opinion) it's really bad, or really good?
more from down under, podcast guy already listened to the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkE1WLO8saw
Reddit
It seems like Gore leaked with a vinyl rip initially and then an MP3 leak like 2 days before release. We should have something soon.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Sep 22, 2020, 10:45 PM
It seems like Gore leaked with a vinyl rip initially and then an MP3 leak like 2 days before release. We should have something soon.
Go back a few pages and listen to the amazon snippets
I hope no one leaks it from a vinyl.
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Sep 22, 2020, 10:42 PM
more from down under, podcast guy already listened to the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkE1WLO8saw
Love Abe, thanks for sharing!
I too miss having the secret tracks and b-sides :'(
Pretty high quality pic of the lyrics on the vinyl sleeve got posted to the subreddit:
https://i.imgur.com/XbvaV40.jpeg
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 22, 2020, 10:25 PM
Not Mine.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758090365168517190/120084692_10164683476455724_8370427614610708337_n.png?width=428&height=571)
another one
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758091945544253470/wcqpc1jcyro51.png?width=571&height=571)
Quote from: theataraxian on Sep 22, 2020, 11:01 PM
Pretty high quality pic of the lyrics on the vinyl sleeve got posted to the subreddit:
https://i.imgur.com/XbvaV40.jpeg
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/DUJhkYPqDsmaI/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47vt1bg3aqv4b5gkryejy0bwxzir8vob54tpsujx0i&rid=giphy.gif)
Any regular fans heard it yet? I don't trust journalist reviews. They seem like they are fans of their own vocabularies more so than of the band.
Those are some of the strongest lyrics I have seen from a Deftones record in a while. Love it!
How does everyone with a copy have a conscience?
The hype is unreal, I've been here since koi no yokan and this has been the most anticipated deftones record for me.
Like all of us, I've been trough a breakup that felt like hell when koi came out, my father dying in 2016 months after gore came out, I love gore cause my and my father heard on vinyl with a couple of beers and had a really nice chat about music.
Now with ohms I've through some ups and downs... but the excitement is huge!!! Love u guys.
Glanced at the first few lines of This Link Is Dead and it's definitely about what fans want the band to sound like.
Um...
*runs away*
So looking forward to when I can hear this record. Since S/T, I'll put the music on in my car and go drive in the desert at night taking in every moment. Can't wait to do that again VERY SOON!
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2020, 11:30 PM
Glanced at the first few lines of This Link Is Dead and it's definitely about what fans want the band to sound like.
Um...
*runs away*
I always thought Gonn Squad was also a message directly to people that want Deftones to be a certain something. Goon Squad is very nu=metalish and I am sure in the l=yrics he is basically saying 'This song is reminder we can still write songs like this and do it well'. TLID could be rooted in the anger he has about people shitting on Gore. Well maybe not Gore in particular, but yeah. Very interesting. Fuuuuuuu I can't wait!
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 22, 2020, 11:43 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2020, 11:30 PM
Glanced at the first few lines of This Link Is Dead and it's definitely about what fans want the band to sound like.
Um...
*runs away*
I always thought Gonn Squad was also a message directly to people that want Deftones to be a certain something. Goon Squad is very nu=metalish and I am sure in the l=yrics he is basically saying 'This song is reminder we can still write songs like this and do it well'. TLID could be rooted in the anger he has about people shitting on Gore. Well maybe not Gore in particular, but yeah. Very interesting. Fuuuuuuu I can't wait!
100% - It's kind of saying I'm going to do it my way/ I can easily make it sound like something I've already done though.
People on Reddit saying they recieved an email saying their vinyl order shipment is delayed until late October. I haven't gotten one yet. Did anyone of you guys get that email?
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 22, 2020, 11:50 PM
People on Reddit saying they recieved an email saying their vinyl order shipment is delayed until late October. I haven't gotten one yet. Did anyone of you guys get that email?
nope..i ordered mine on amazon like i said in the sub. nothing yet..NOTHING :(
How has this not leaked yet??
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 22, 2020, 11:50 PM
People on Reddit saying they recieved an email saying their vinyl order shipment is delayed until late October. I haven't gotten one yet. Did anyone of you guys get that email?
No, but I've seen the messages which are essentially '730 more hours to go.' Sorry.
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
For real lol. So many people have a copy of it already, but it just hasn't appeared somehow.
We've really came a long way from the time where we were able to get Diamond Eyes 2 months early.
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
For real lol. So many people have a copy of it already, but it just hasn't appeared somehow.
We've really came a long way from the time where we were able to get Diamond Eyes 2 months early.
ST was the same way. I rolled up to their premiere in LA and knew the lyrics already
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
For real lol. So many people have a copy of it already, but it just hasn't appeared somehow.
We've really came a long way from the time where we were able to get Diamond Eyes 2 months early.
What about White Pony.... Wasn't that 5 months early? :)
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:01 AM
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
I just remember the original leak that got edited later leaked extremely early. It was crazy.
For real lol. So many people have a copy of it already, but it just hasn't appeared somehow.
We've really came a long way from the time where we were able to get Diamond Eyes 2 months early.
What about White Pony.... Wasn't that 5 months early? :)
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:03 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:01 AM
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
I just remember the original leak that got edited later leaked extremely early. It was crazy.
For real lol. So many people have a copy of it already, but it just hasn't appeared somehow.
We've really came a long way from the time where we were able to get Diamond Eyes 2 months early.
What about White Pony.... Wasn't that 5 months early? :)
something like that
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758115983356723250/image0.jpg?width=428&height=571)
GUYS! SOMEONE HAS IT!
I'm loving this.
It's 36 hours away from being officially released in New Zealand, and it'll spread like wildfire. Leaking it now would be such a shame.
For the reminder, no leaks are allowed on this forum. No requests for it either. Otherwise you get banned.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:03 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:01 AM
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
I just remember the original leak that got edited later leaked extremely early. It was crazy.
For real lol. So many people have a copy of it already, but it just hasn't appeared somehow.
We've really came a long way from the time where we were able to get Diamond Eyes 2 months early.
What about White Pony.... Wasn't that 5 months early? :)
The original leak that wasn't even completely finished, re: editing etc, leaked way early.
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Requests for leaks are not allowed, like I just said.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:01 AM
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
For real lol. So many people have a copy of it already, but it just hasn't appeared somehow.
We've really came a long way from the time where we were able to get Diamond Eyes 2 months early.
What about White Pony.... Wasn't that 5 months early? :)
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 12:00 AM
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
How has this not leaked yet??
ST was the same way. I rolled up to their premiere in LA and knew the lyrics already
I was too young for those records to know what a leak was lol.
I got into them a little bit before SNW came out.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:04 AM
I'm loving this.
It's 36 hours away from being officially released in New Zealand, and it'll spread like wildfire. Leaking it now would be such a shame.
For the reminder, no leaks are allowed on this forum. No requests for it either. Otherwise you get banned.
It's done so well to not leak up until this point. It comes out tomorrow night for me anyway.
A+ non leak rating :)
here we go ladies and gents
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:04 AM
I'm loving this.
It's 36 hours away from being officially released in New Zealand, and it'll spread like wildfire. Leaking it now would be such a shame.
For the reminder, no leaks are allowed on this forum. No requests for it either. Otherwise you get banned.
I know you love it, but I requested PTO from the 22-25th for Ohms. My Dad died a year and a half ago. My life has been fucked an in shambles since them. Sorry for the sob story, and good for the band......but my dumbass used PTO I really needed to save, just to sit here and do nothing. No one's fault but my own. I just wanted to be here, literally on this board, the moment it happened to see everyones happy reactions :(
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 23, 2020, 12:11 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:04 AM
I'm loving this.
It's 36 hours away from being officially released in New Zealand, and it'll spread like wildfire. Leaking it now would be such a shame.
For the reminder, no leaks are allowed on this forum. No requests for it either. Otherwise you get banned.
I know you love it, but I requested PTO from the 22-25th for Ohms. My Dad died a year and a half ago. My life has been fucked an in shambles since them. Sorry for the sob story, and good for the band......but my dumbass used PTO I really needed to save, just to sit here and do nothing. No one's fault but my own. I just wanted to be here, literally on this board, the moment it happened to see everyones happy reactions :(
I'm so sorry to hear that... But honestly it'll be out before it's September 25 in most parts of the world except Oceania.
Anyone else find it suspect that not a single review seemed to have a single criticism? Either this album is a masterpiece or these reviewers are gonna have some splainin to do
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 23, 2020, 12:11 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:04 AM
I'm loving this.
It's 36 hours away from being officially released in New Zealand, and it'll spread like wildfire. Leaking it now would be such a shame.
For the reminder, no leaks are allowed on this forum. No requests for it either. Otherwise you get banned.
I know you love it, but I requested PTO from the 22-25th for Ohms. My Dad died a year and a half ago. My life has been fucked an in shambles since them. Sorry for the sob story, and good for the band......but my dumbass used PTO I really needed to save, just to sit here and do nothing. No one's fault but my own. I just wanted to be here, literally on this board, the moment it happened to see everyones happy reactions :(
I mean, that will still happen. Just not as soon as I thought. Life could be worse. Their are people dying everyday from this pandemic. I should feel fortunate I am ggetting paid to be home while chatting on an online message board.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 12:04 AM
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GUYS! SOMEONE HAS IT!
matter of time now
@secretbandinsider
I don't know about the songs individually, but it does feel like the key of this album is the flow. It may be the most cohesive piece they've ever written (although I have not heard the album in full), and I think that's what's giving this unusually good impression.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:05 AM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Requests for leaks are not allowed, like I just said.
Vesanic is sitting in his throne room, doing his stretches and is about to be dual wielding ban hammers :)
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:17 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:05 AM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Requests for leaks are not allowed, like I just said.
Vesanic is sitting in his throne room, doing his stretches and is about to be dual wielding ban hammers :)
this mental image gives me life
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:17 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:05 AM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Requests for leaks are not allowed, like I just said.
Vesanic is sitting in his throne room, doing his stretches and is about to be dual wielding ban hammers :)
i loaned Ves one of my guns too
Just picked up the cd and listened to half so far.
Quote from: jujuslim on Sep 23, 2020, 12:20 AM
Just picked up the cd and listened to half so far.
bullshit?
I just forgot how to post a photo on here lol. It has a white pony vibe to it. Definitely tell Steph wrote a lot a riffs
Quote from: theataraxian on Sep 23, 2020, 12:19 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:17 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:05 AM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Requests for leaks are not allowed, like I just said.
Vesanic is sitting in his throne room, doing his stretches and is about to be dual wielding ban hammers :)
this mental image gives me life
;D ;D ;D
Honestly more like
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKjSDLdUsAAojV4.jpg)
Every song on the album flows to the next one.
My bad, missed that one
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:26 AM
Quote from: theataraxian on Sep 23, 2020, 12:19 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 12:17 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:05 AM
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Who's dick do I have to suck to get a leak around here
Requests for leaks are not allowed, like I just said.
Vesanic is sitting in his throne room, doing his stretches and is about to be dual wielding ban hammers :)
this mental image gives me life
;D ;D ;D
Honestly more like
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKjSDLdUsAAojV4.jpg)
LOL Ves. I picture this amount of effort :)
https://youtu.be/i80vjJpI3JY?t=20
Quote from: jujuslim on Sep 23, 2020, 12:28 AM
Every song on the album flows to the next one.
damnit
Quote from: jujuslim on Sep 23, 2020, 12:28 AM
Every song on the album flows to the next one.
Dudeeeeee.... Come on really ?
Quote from: jujuslim on Sep 23, 2020, 12:28 AM
Every song on the album flows to the next one.
i sent you a message about the lyrics. I cant see shit
I can absolutely assure everyone that we are a very short time away from hearing this record. ;D
Quote from: Divided_Spirit on Sep 23, 2020, 12:35 AM
I can absolutely assure everyone that we are a very short time away from hearing this record. ;D
one can only hope and live with maximum jealousy
*heavy breathing*
Quote from: Divided_Spirit on Sep 23, 2020, 12:35 AM
I can absolutely assure everyone that we are a very short time away from hearing this record. ;D
couple days
This hype is killing me
hoping someone will step up and do us a solid one
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 12:37 AM
Quote from: Divided_Spirit on Sep 23, 2020, 12:35 AM
I can absolutely assure everyone that we are a very short time away from hearing this record. ;D
couple days
Much..much less.
Quote from: thetimeisdead on Sep 23, 2020, 12:38 AM
This hype is killing me
I have been binging The Wire for over a week..I cannot focus on it right now.
Damn, the lyrics on this album look like they might be up there among the best.
2 more hours. For real this time
Ooh how exciting
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 12:15 AM
Anyone else find it suspect that not a single review seemed to have a single criticism? Either this album is a masterpiece or these reviewers are gonna have some splainin to do
It's been overwhelmingly positive so far, but a Spanish review from two weeks ago thought the album didn't really take them in new directions. They still gave it an 8, though. And then Genesis is in Fantano's worst tracks of the week, but that's about it. Also, we haven't quite gotten to the "big" reviewers yet: your Rolling Stones, your Spins, your Pitchforks, your AllMusics, etc...
GUYS IT LEAKED. IT FUCKING LEAKEEEEEEEDDDDD
There's water everywhere! Should I call a plumber?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ac/ed/6c/aced6cd3927edeeddd1e896d26c5799e.gif)
I have used more bandwidth hitting F5 on these sites than a whole series on Netflix
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 23, 2020, 12:55 AM
GUYS IT LEAKED. IT FUCKING LEAKEEEEEEEDDDDD
nope
There's water everywhere! Should I call a plumber?
nope nope
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:56 AM
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I can't tell you how much that made me laugh lol it's so stupid but funny.
Ves is comin' for dat ass
What's taking so long?
2
more
hours
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 12:58 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:56 AM
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I can't tell you how much that made me laugh lol it's so stupid but funny.
its the drug dog from Paradise PD lol
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:02 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 12:58 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:56 AM
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I can't tell you how much that made me laugh lol it's so stupid but funny.
its the drug dog from Paradise PD lol
Excuse me, that is the shifty-looking dog from The Simpsons episode with Mel Gibson!
any minute now....amiright?
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 01:04 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:02 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 12:58 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 12:56 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ac/ed/6c/aced6cd3927edeeddd1e896d26c5799e.gif)
I can't tell you how much that made me laugh lol it's so stupid but funny.
its the drug dog from Paradise PD lol
Excuse me, that is the shifty-looking dog from The Simpsons episode with Mel Gibson!
oops.
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:04 AM
any minute now....amiright?
It's looking like it. It feels like it.
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:06 AM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:04 AM
any minute now....amiright?
It's looking like it. It feels like it.
(https://memepedia.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/im-watching-you.jpg)
Come on already. My F5 is going to die any time
Quote from: thetimeisdead on Sep 23, 2020, 01:08 AM
Come on already. My F5 is going to die any time
my F5 button turned into dust this morning.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 01:07 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:06 AM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:04 AM
any minute now....amiright?
It's looking like it. It feels like it.
(https://memepedia.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/im-watching-you.jpg)
Hands up don't shoot!!
New account :) That's hilarious.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that lol
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Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:14 AM
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Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:13 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
😂
This is insane. Still nothing. The band and label have pulled off the seemingly impossible. Just wow....
There's almost like a calm before the storm right now. It's a little quiet. Too quiet.
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Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
Long time lurker here myself cheers mate!
2 more leaks
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:16 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:14 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:13 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
as long as youre healthy and in good spirits you made it through. this year was different for sure
Quote from: Royal on Sep 23, 2020, 01:18 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:16 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:14 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:13 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
Long time lurker here myself cheers mate!
Heyyyyyyy there it is! Cheers to you as well.
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 23, 2020, 01:17 AM
This is insane. Still nothing. The band and label have pulled off the seemingly impossible. Just wow....
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:18 AM
There's almost like a calm before the storm right now. It's a little quiet. Too quiet.
Keep your cool everyone.
IMMA FUCK YALL UP
Keep cool.
I don't know if I can stay up anymore waiting...I'm old and tired
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:21 AM
I don't know if I can stay up anymore waiting...I'm old and tired
I'm pushing my late 40's and here I am. We got this
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:19 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:16 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:14 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:13 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
as long as youre healthy and in good spirits you made it through. this year was different for sure
Yeah honestly 2019 was literally the worst of my 35. Nothing like heartbreak to keep you sobbing to yourself on the couch for an entire year. 2020 is just annoying in comparison but still fucked. Thank god for our Deftones 💕
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:22 AM
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Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:13 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
as long as youre healthy and in good spirits you made it through. this year was different for sure
Yeah honestly 2019 was literally the worst of my 35. Nothing like heartbreak to keep you sobbing to yourself on the couch for an entire year. 2020 is just annoying in comparison but still fucked. Thank god for our Deftones 💕
i got you beat. you wouldnt believe me if i told you.
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:22 AM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:21 AM
I don't know if I can stay up anymore waiting...I'm old and tired
I'm pushing my late 40's and here I am. We got this
You give me hope for my late 40s my friend and true fan lol.
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:19 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:16 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:14 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:13 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
as long as youre healthy and in good spirits you made it through. this year was different for sure
Thats very true. We can talk about music and all that, but to think we actually made it to this moment. Crazy year for all of us. But we persevered. Fought hard. Tough as nails. And here we are now on the cusp of a moment that seemed *so* far away. That's a wonderful thing to think about.
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:24 AM
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Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:13 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
as long as youre healthy and in good spirits you made it through. this year was different for sure
Yeah honestly 2019 was literally the worst of my 35. Nothing like heartbreak to keep you sobbing to yourself on the couch for an entire year. 2020 is just annoying in comparison but still fucked. Thank god for our Deftones 💕
i got you beat. you wouldnt believe me if i told you.
I believe you and it scares me lol
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:24 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:22 AM
Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:21 AM
I don't know if I can stay up anymore waiting...I'm old and tired
I'm pushing my late 40's and here I am. We got this
You give me hope for my late 40s my friend and true fan lol.
when I hit 40 I started going back in time. weird energy came from nowhere like I was getting younger. Salt and Pepper..almost all white but I act like I'm in my 20's again. My 30's were fat and lazy years. life is a trip
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:27 AM
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Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:21 AM
I don't know if I can stay up anymore waiting...I'm old and tired
I'm pushing my late 40's and here I am. We got this
You give me hope for my late 40s my friend and true fan lol.
when I hit 40 I started going back in time. weird energy came from nowhere like I was getting younger. Salt and Pepper..almost all white but I act like I'm in my 20's again. My 30's were fat and lazy years. life is a trip
Damn, that's basically where I'm at lol. Never been in worse shape but mentally I still feel young af and I still do all the same shit so in my mind I'm not even worried about my 50s. What changed though for you to switch it up when ya hit 40??
What if I told you it was going to leak in 2 hours....
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 01:31 AM
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Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:21 AM
I don't know if I can stay up anymore waiting...I'm old and tired
I'm pushing my late 40's and here I am. We got this
You give me hope for my late 40s my friend and true fan lol.
when I hit 40 I started going back in time. weird energy came from nowhere like I was getting younger. Salt and Pepper..almost all white but I act like I'm in my 20's again. My 30's were fat and lazy years. life is a trip
Damn, that's basically where I'm at lol. Never been in worse shape but mentally I still feel young af and I still do all the same shit so in my mind I'm not even worried about my 50s. What changed though for you to switch it up when ya hit 40??
maybe its our biological clock. I dont know. I have a few injuries from the military that bug me from time to time but I work out (when I do ) like I did 20 years ago and my behavior is childish too. In my 30's I was depressed and took everything too seriously. Other than that..you'll see when it comes
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:34 AM
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Quote from: whathappenedtoyou on Sep 23, 2020, 01:21 AM
I don't know if I can stay up anymore waiting...I'm old and tired
I'm pushing my late 40's and here I am. We got this
You give me hope for my late 40s my friend and true fan lol.
when I hit 40 I started going back in time. weird energy came from nowhere like I was getting younger. Salt and Pepper..almost all white but I act like I'm in my 20's again. My 30's were fat and lazy years. life is a trip
Damn, that's basically where I'm at lol. Never been in worse shape but mentally I still feel young af and I still do all the same shit so in my mind I'm not even worried about my 50s. What changed though for you to switch it up when ya hit 40??
maybe its our biological clock. I dont know. I have a few injuries from the military that bug me from time to time but I work out (when I do ) like I did 20 years ago and my behavior is childish too. In my 30's I was depressed and took everything too seriously. Other than that..you'll see when it comes
Damn, sounds like I'm on that similar path. I'm be 36 in a couple couple months and I'm already shedding some of that "serious mentality" bs.
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 23, 2020, 01:34 AM
What if I told you it was going to leak in 2 hours....
I would believe you. Cause thems the rulz.
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 23, 2020, 01:34 AM
What if I told you it was going to leak in 2 hours....
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/52e29ba107ea33908489aff91fd4e5ad/tumblr_mi8sibbCS31rem27uo1_r1_250.gif)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:40 AM
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 23, 2020, 01:34 AM
What if I told you it was going to leak in 2 hours....
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/52e29ba107ea33908489aff91fd4e5ad/tumblr_mi8sibbCS31rem27uo1_r1_250.gif)
Haha that grin.
Perfection.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758140706564472832/SOCLOSE.jpg)
You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
And yes. It's happening..
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758142402526445568/ITSHAPPENING.jpg)
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 23, 2020, 01:24 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:19 AM
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Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:12 AM
New account :) That's hilarious.
Been lurking siiiiiinceeee at least S/t
Shit even my exes can't say that shit
my dog. i knew you would show up
Had to do it. It is a celebration of sorts during the worst year of most of our lives ;D let's get it!! So pumped!!
as long as youre healthy and in good spirits you made it through. this year was different for sure
Thats very true. We can talk about music and all that, but to think we actually made it to this moment. Crazy year for all of us. But we persevered. Fought hard. Tough as nails. And here we are now on the cusp of a moment that seemed *so* far away. That's a wonderful thing to think about.
Well said brother. Cheers to all
Get ready Vesanic
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
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You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
Its happening... 2 more mins btw
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758140706564472832/SOCLOSE.jpg)
You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
my god
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758140706564472832/SOCLOSE.jpg)
You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
Half a star? Damn that's rough
come onnnnnnnn
thepiratebay is the place my friend...
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758140706564472832/SOCLOSE.jpg)
You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
And yes. It's happening..
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758142402526445568/ITSHAPPENING.jpg)
Looking out my window for the smoke signals and or carrier pigeons 🥳
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
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You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
Half a star? Damn that's rough
Hahaha I'm fucking dying
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
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You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
Half a star? Damn that's rough
That is quite rough.
I have to say if you just went through your digital library for songs with the right times and then just renamed them... That's super impressive
I am about to dump a 30 round mag into the sky
Quote from: Wretchedest on Sep 23, 2020, 01:53 AM
I have to say if you just went through your digital library for songs with the right times and then just renamed them... That's super impressive
Windows Media Player. That is impressive
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:53 AM
I am about to dump a 30 round mag into the sky
Gotta take that edge off
I am convinced whoever made this hasn't used Windows Media Player in years and just loaded it to leak an album one day before its release. ::)
Im having a god damned panic attack
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 01:55 AM
I am convinced whoever made this hasn't used Windows Media Player in years and just loaded it to leak an album one day before its release. ::)
Windowx XP at that
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:56 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 01:55 AM
I am convinced whoever made this hasn't used Windows Media Player in years and just loaded it to leak an album one day before its release. ::)
Windowx XP at that
Looks like Vista or 7?
And remember, not everyone is as up to date with computers these days, now its all cellphone this, discless laptop that.
LETS FUCKING GO!!!
The hype is real, I have not felt this excited since KNY! 2012 was a GOOD year
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:57 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:56 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 01:55 AM
I am convinced whoever made this hasn't used Windows Media Player in years and just loaded it to leak an album one day before its release. ::)
Windowx XP at that
Looks like Vista or 7?
And remember, not everyone is as up to date with computers these days, now its all cellphone this, discless laptop that.
I get that but it wasn't my point.
I just got summoned for dinner. i love you all..
Watching American Horror Story and waiting patiently...
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758140706564472832/SOCLOSE.jpg)
You won't believe me if I told you. SO I'm showing you!
And yes. It's happening..
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754849843469615137/758142402526445568/ITSHAPPENING.jpg)
Oh god I hope that's not someone messing with us.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:00 AM
Watching American Horror Story and waiting patiently...
What season?
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:58 AM
I just got summoned for dinner. i love you all..
Go love that meal!! We shall be around 😏
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 23, 2020, 01:57 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:56 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 01:55 AM
I am convinced whoever made this hasn't used Windows Media Player in years and just loaded it to leak an album one day before its release. ::)
I'm surprised people still actually have a cd slot in their computer lol
Windowx XP at that
Looks like Vista or 7?
And remember, not everyone is as up to date with computers these days, now its all cellphone this, discless laptop that.
I'm surprised people actually still have disks slots in their computer lol
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 02:03 AM
I'm surprised people actually still have disks slots in their computer lol
yep, I have a 2015 Macbook Pro and I do not have one and that was 5 years ago!
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 02:03 AM
I'm surprised people actually still have disks slots in their computer lol
The coffee cup holder?
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:01 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:00 AM
Watching American Horror Story and waiting patiently...
What season?
Freak Show. I've been rewatching them since mid-August
Shit is about to be on...
What's up with the release year being 2019?.. 🤔
One last time:
You leak it, that's a paddlin'. You ask for the leak, that's a paddlin'.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:05 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:01 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:00 AM
Watching American Horror Story and waiting patiently...
What season?
Freak Show. I've been rewatching them since mid-August
Just ended up watching that season a few weeks ago for the first time. Not bad. Apocalypse was my fav and the first season.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:10 AM
One last time:
You leak it, that's a paddlin'. You ask for the leak, that's a paddlin'.
'Pop 'pop 'pop
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:10 AM
One last time:
You leak it, that's a paddlin'. You ask for the leak, that's a paddlin'.
This is the way...
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 02:03 AM
I'm surprised people actually still have disks slots in their computer lol
Yeah, I moved recently and at the moment I can't play a Cassette, CD or Vinyl - by any means. It's like '...So limiting..'
(https://miro.medium.com/max/2428/1*_wdXSdHiCmCYMsxHmwe-Dg.png)
LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 02:14 AM
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 02:03 AM
I'm surprised people actually still have disks slots in their computer lol
Yeah, I moved recently and at the moment I can't play a Cassette, CD or Vinyl - by any means. It's like '...So limiting..'
(https://miro.medium.com/max/2428/1*_wdXSdHiCmCYMsxHmwe-Dg.png)
well you can still use the good ole spotify haha
Taking back what I said, for all I know the person who took those pictures is ripping the CD for themselves. :)
A deep breath and then exhale and rejoice. The time is neigh 👻
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:17 AM
Taking back what I said, for all I know the person who took those pictures is ripping the CD for themselves. :)
How dare you???
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 02:11 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:05 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:01 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:00 AM
Watching American Horror Story and waiting patiently...
What season?
Freak Show. I've been rewatching them since mid-August
Just ended up watching that season a few weeks ago for the first time. Not bad. Apocalypse was my fav and the first season.
Asylum was my favorite my first time around and I HATED Coven. Second time around Asylum dipped down in my rankings a little bit and I had a newfound love for Coven.
out of topic but I just realized I'e been part of this forum since 2006 and my first post was right before Gore came out...I'm pretty sure I posted back in 2006 but don't see that anywhere. do you guys know if they delete posts at some point? It would be fun to see what I was writing on here 14years ago lol
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:22 AM
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:05 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:01 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:00 AM
Watching American Horror Story and waiting patiently...
What season?
Freak Show. I've been rewatching them since mid-August
Just ended up watching that season a few weeks ago for the first time. Not bad. Apocalypse was my fav and the first season.
Asylum was my favorite my first time around and I HATED Coven. Second time around Asylum dipped down in my rankings a little bit and I had a newfound love for Coven.
Hotel is my favourite even though EVERYONE hates it lol.
Vesanic right now reading posts like
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ab8302d25eaaa196da4f5881bd12d1f7/tenor.gif?itemid=17532584)
It's out there! Link posted on one of the FB groups just now...
:)
u mean #itleaked ?
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:23 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:22 AM
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 02:11 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:05 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:01 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 02:00 AM
Watching American Horror Story and waiting patiently...
What season?
Freak Show. I've been rewatching them since mid-August
Just ended up watching that season a few weeks ago for the first time. Not bad. Apocalypse was my fav and the first season.
Asylum was my favorite my first time around and I HATED Coven. Second time around Asylum dipped down in my rankings a little bit and I had a newfound love for Coven.
Hotel is my favourite even though EVERYONE hates it lol.
Ooo I loved Hotel, just how dark and twisted it was was perfect. Took me back to when I was like 13-14 and was obsessed with Saw.
I am shitting my pants rn
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2020, 02:25 AM
It's out there! Link posted on one of the FB groups just now...
I didnt see shit
I wish I could see it
I have all these tabs open, Sharing lungs/Deftones reddit/ kingdom leaks/ facebook deftones groups
The Link Isn't Dead. This place is about to explode.
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 AM
I have all these tabs open, Sharing lungs/Deftones reddit/ kingdom leaks/ facebook deftones groups
Is this who I think it is? Roxy show?
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2020, 02:25 AM
It's out there! Link posted on one of the FB groups just now...
Which one?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:34 AM
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2020, 02:25 AM
It's out there! Link posted on one of the FB groups just now...
Which one?
yea which one? God is asking you
2 more hours, rite?
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 02:33 AM
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 AM
I have all these tabs open, Sharing lungs/Deftones reddit/ kingdom leaks/ facebook deftones groups
Is this who I think it is? Roxy show?
Naw man, Ves knows me. Im Marty from Texas
Dos horas más... :o
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:35 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 02:33 AM
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 AM
I have all these tabs open, Sharing lungs/Deftones reddit/ kingdom leaks/ facebook deftones groups
Is this who I think it is? Roxy show?
Naw man, Ves knows me. Im Marty from Texas
all good. Brandon from California *tips hat*
Just got an email from HasItLeaked. Yes it's official 💦💦
thank you guys, ima go listen.
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 02:37 AM
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Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 02:33 AM
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 AM
I have all these tabs open, Sharing lungs/Deftones reddit/ kingdom leaks/ facebook deftones groups
Is this who I think it is? Roxy show?
Naw man, Ves knows me. Im Marty from Texas
all good. Brandon from California *tips hat*
been lurking since 2003, used to buy bootlegs from portugal Nuno back in the day. Was a part of the OG Deftones board
For anyone concerned, this is confirmed way better than Gore
Now I can finally clean my Garage.. been procrastinating.
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:39 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 02:37 AM
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:35 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 02:33 AM
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 AM
I have all these tabs open, Sharing lungs/Deftones reddit/ kingdom leaks/ facebook deftones groups
Is this who I think it is? Roxy show?
Naw man, Ves knows me. Im Marty from Texas
all good. Brandon from California *tips hat*
been lurking since 2003, used to buy bootlegs from portugal Nuno back in the day. Was a part of the OG Deftones board
as was I. I went by Whitepony back then
2 more hours?
Which facebook group?
Someone please tell me why the second I was about to download it, it all disappeared??? Has it been deleted? I'm going to die lol.
@Ves says it was reported by Kingdom Leaks but I do not see it
New guy here! Can't wait to hear this!!!
Fuck this is exciting! Last time I was on here refreshing was for KNY. I got in a relationship a few months after that and kinda stopped listening to Deftones for a while because he didn't like this genre of music and I was a dumbass for caring but eventually I started playing them and now he knows the words to songs and has seen them live with me. It was his first concert haha. I don't even remember coming on here for Gore but still bought it when I knew it was out. None of those songs made me feel what I felt with Koi. I still don't know most of the words to the songs on Gore besides the singles. I'm loving Genesis way more than Ohms but it's a great song. Planning to wait until Friday. I gotta buy some good headphones before that. Any recommendations?
been following along with a guy on reddit that has the gold vinyl and has been listening/posting photos
Yep. Spell is going to be a fan favorite.
OH FUCK
things don't leak like they used to since newer computers don't have CD roms
THIS PLACE IS EXPLODING LOL
I can feel it down in my plums
hook me the fuck up!!
Pompeji is amazing.
I hate you guys. I was about to go to bed...fuck my life.
only time i wish i had facebook lol
Aw man I'm gonna try bc I'm not part of the cool kids on account of all the crying
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:42 AM
@Ves says it was reported by Kingdom Leaks but I do not see it
the album isn't going to be posted on KL until when new releases usually "leak" (NZ time and such)
the original link for the leak (in 192) circulating has been binned, was posted to the facebook fan group "DEFTONES".
I keep trying to join that facebook group and they won't approve me for some fucking reason. Gaaahhhhh I want this album so bad!
why can't ya'll just wait till friday and listen to it properly
Fuck sleeping, i'm only going back to bed once I got my hands on a leak
Quote from: Ashtiel on Sep 23, 2020, 02:55 AM
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:42 AM
@Ves says it was reported by Kingdom Leaks but I do not see it
the album isn't going to be posted on KL until when new releases usually "leak" (NZ time and such)
the original link for the leak (in 192) circulating has been binned, was posted to the facebook fan group "DEFTONES".
Are you telling me there's now no link to it???
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 23, 2020, 02:55 AM
why can't ya'll just wait till friday and listen to it properly
Because we're excited.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:56 AM
Are you telling me there's now no link to it???
this link is dead
Quote from: Far away on Sep 23, 2020, 02:53 AM
I hate you guys. I was about to go to bed...fuck my life.
worth it
Quote from: Ashtiel on Sep 23, 2020, 02:57 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:56 AM
Are you telling me there's now no link to it???
this link is dead
Clever, but cruel :(
I was literally seconds away from downloading it.
I can wait until Friday, but while I'm here and not sleepy.... what's wrong with handing Jesus the wheel and seeing what happens?
Quote from: Ashtiel on Sep 23, 2020, 02:55 AM
Quote from: ghettovaquero on Sep 23, 2020, 02:42 AM
@Ves says it was reported by Kingdom Leaks but I do not see it
the album isn't going to be posted on KL until when new releases usually "leak" (NZ time and such)
the original link for the leak (in 192) circulating has been binned, was posted to the facebook fan group "DEFTONES".
There are other albums with a Sept 25th release date being posted on there over the course of the day, though
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:59 AM
Quote from: Ashtiel on Sep 23, 2020, 02:57 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 02:56 AM
Are you telling me there's now no link to it???
this link is dead
Clever, but cruel :(
I was literally seconds away from downloading it.
you'll get a link from someone that was able to get it I'm sure
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 23, 2020, 03:00 AM
There are other albums with a Sept 25th release date being posted on there over the course of the day, though
KL staff were specially requested by someone significant within the Deftones fan community to not post the album until Thursday, from what I've been told.
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 23, 2020, 02:59 AM
I can wait until Friday, but while I'm here and not sleepy.... what's wrong with handing Jesus the wheel and seeing what happens?
I can read you know
Lol
(https://i.ibb.co/F3mJ9gt/Untitled.png)
the salsa sections are awesome in the lin is dead!
shut the fuck up cunt
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:07 AM
Lol
(https://i.ibb.co/F3mJ9gt/Untitled.png)
LOL. OMG.
you want action?!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:07 AM
Lol
(https://i.ibb.co/F3mJ9gt/Untitled.png)
I know we're all desperate here, but that's...a tiny bit aggressive lol. He could've just bribed you.
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 03:08 AM
shut the fuck up cunt
calm yout tits down for a minute sr.
Quote from: tokyodrifter on Sep 23, 2020, 03:08 AM
you want action?!
Popping up at just the right time...
Quote from: esku87 on Sep 23, 2020, 03:09 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 03:08 AM
shut the fuck up cunt
calm yout tits down for a minute sr.
haha that was NOT directed toward you
Fuck I will never need your guide!
I got it early, not leaking thou
this album is fucking beautiful. wow.
Daaaaamn, that chilled part during Ceremony that bursts back into the guitar though??? Beautiful.
HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT!
leak the album or I bang all your moms. Not even kidding
Quote from: heythere on Sep 23, 2020, 03:15 AM
leak the album or I bang all your moms. Not even kidding
my mom will be bumpin this shit before you
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 03:16 AM
Quote from: heythere on Sep 23, 2020, 03:15 AM
leak the album or I bang all your moms. Not even kidding
my mom will be bumpin this shit before you
Got it. Still banging your mom on principle though
My god, it's glorious
10 min in and everybody's like omg so good amazing. i don't think you're past the 3rd song in 10 min....
I think my favorite lyric from any song so far is
"never gonna give you up
never gonna let you down
never gonna run around and desert you"
reminds me of something from adrenaline, but chino's voice sounds different
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:18 AM
10 min in and everybody's like omg so good amazing. i don't think you're past the 3rd song in 10 min....
im on headless
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 03:19 AM
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:18 AM
10 min in and everybody's like omg so good amazing. i don't think you're past the 3rd song in 10 min....
clearly not a way of LISTENING a new album lol
im on headless
so just 30 sec of each song?
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:20 AM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 03:19 AM
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:18 AM
10 min in and everybody's like omg so good amazing. i don't think you're past the 3rd song in 10 min....
clearly not a way of LISTENING a new album lol
im on headless
I havent had it for 10 minutes either
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:18 AM
10 min in and everybody's like omg so good amazing. i don't think you're past the 3rd song in 10 min....
true. Thats the Ceremony effect. That shit is BEAUTIFUL!
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens on Spotify or whatever. Man this is sad. A week ago or something I'd get it, but like... not even two days.
Urantia intro making me think it's a death metal song lol. Stef's riffs sound awesome though. Great chorus too and ending too.
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:18 AM
10 min in and everybody's like omg so good amazing. i don't think you're past the 3rd song in 10 min....
Well, as someone who's never been disappointed by a Deftones album, or even been lukewarm to any of the albums, my early assumptions are fine lol.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens on Spotify or whatever. Man this is sad. A week ago or something I'd get it, but like... not even two days.
why do you think they won't get them anyway?
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:20 AM
so just 30 sec of each song?
some of us have had it for a while.
like i said, it's fucking beautiful.
Forget about it.
One last time, linking to the leak is not allowed, and do not ask for the leak either.
I'm leaving you toooooooniiiight
I find consolation in that it's a lossy rip. You can reaaaally hear that.
I have no doubt I'll listen to the album 1000 times on my youtube premium subscription and the vinyls I bought no matter what happens
Gotta keep away from here. All of your descriptions put ideas into my head. See you all Thursday.
between this leak and new Soft Kill music at midnight, gonna be a good day tomorrow
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 23, 2020, 03:24 AM
I have no doubt I'll listen to the album 1000 times on my youtube premium subscription and the vinyls I bought no matter what happens
That's cool
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens on Spotify or whatever. Man this is sad. A week ago or something I'd get it, but like... not even two days.
I'm just shocked it went as long as it did without leaking... makes my wait not so excruciating.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens. Man this is sad.
Most people here have pre-ordered the album in one form or another, will be streaming the album rather than keeping this leak, and support the band in other ways. And the casual fans you think won't bother buying albums if they've got leaks, well...they're not really the kind to be refreshing a forum every five seconds to try to find a leak, are they? Because they're not obsessed. Most people don't even pirate these days, with all the streaming services available. If the album is on Spotify, people will for sure be listening there over downloading leaks.
"Leak the album cunt!"
LOLOLOLOLOL
Ceremony and Spell with blow you all away. I promise.
True. On second thought that was quite the effort. Obviously a fan was gonna leak it in advance. I'm happy it wasn't a journalist or something and it took as long as it did. Label did great.
Jeez. People really are this way?
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 23, 2020, 03:25 AM
Gotta keep away from here. All of your descriptions put ideas into my head. See you all Thursday.
such a trooper. may god have mercy on your soul.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 03:26 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens. Man this is sad.
Most people here have pre-ordered the album in one form or another, will be streaming the album rather than keeping this leak, and support the band in other ways. And the casual fans you think won't bother buying albums if they've got leaks, well...they're not really the kind to be refreshing a forum every five seconds to try to find a leak, are they? Because they're not obsessed. Most people don't even pirate these days, with all the streaming services available. If the album is on Spotify, people will for sure be listening there over downloading leaks.
I get that and I'm very hypocritical to younger me. I just really hoped it wouldn't. I don't know, some innocence in that.
Quote from: Jdubzor on Sep 23, 2020, 03:27 AM
Ceremony and Spell with blow you all away. I promise.
YES
YES
FUCK YES!
PS: Whoever wrote that 'this record wouldnt show them going in a different direction', is either tone deaf or just dumb.
I assume there will be youtube vids posted by tomorrow
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 03:28 AM
Jeez. People really are this way?
You wouldn't believe. I had someone storm me on reddit and I'm pretty sure it was the same "fellow".
Im sure the overall listeners base will listen from the legal way on streaming platforms and some will buy. Fans will buy no matter what and listen the legal way.
My point is, people listening now might be only "a few".
Last leak I downloaded was Tool last year and I can't remember last one before that. Usually I just wait til a release friday for all my music. Usually...
Yeah, I get it.
What are the odds that ShitCunt was actually Vesanic's alter ego posting?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:28 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 03:26 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens. Man this is sad.
Most people here have pre-ordered the album in one form or another, will be streaming the album rather than keeping this leak, and support the band in other ways. And the casual fans you think won't bother buying albums if they've got leaks, well...they're not really the kind to be refreshing a forum every five seconds to try to find a leak, are they? Because they're not obsessed. Most people don't even pirate these days, with all the streaming services available. If the album is on Spotify, people will for sure be listening there over downloading leaks.
I get that and I'm very hypocritical to younger me. I just really hoped it wouldn't. I don't know, some innocence in that.
You've just got a different outlook than you used to, which is cool. They did a really good job keeping it out until now, to be honest. I don't know how they managed it, but they've learned a lot from previous albums lol.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:23 AM
I find consolation in that it's a lossy rip. You can reaaaally hear that.
It's not different to spotify type quality. From an engineers perspective, you can usually hear it in the cymbals and spotify overly compresses the tracks so you need to do the master slightly differently before you send them to the streaming services, if you know what you are doing anyway...
Damn, it's been such a long time since waking up, going to this forum and seeing like 40 new pages of album discussion lol going to be WILD.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:31 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:23 AM
I find consolation in that it's a lossy rip. You can reaaaally hear that.
It's not different to spotify type quality. From an engineers perspective, you can usually hear it in the cymbals and spotify overly compresses the tracks so you need to do the master slightly differently before you send them to the streaming services, if you know what you are doing anyway...
I don't know about that. Genesis doesn't sound as good to me. Maybe bias?
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 03:28 AM
Jeez. People really are this way?
going nutts on a forum the week an album releases is a thing! Back in my day, I used to go to the local grungy dirty record store a week early like a civilized person where the owner would sell me now for cash and ring it up on release day because he knew I was cool ;D
The internet is the new normal
THE ENDING OF ERROR IS THE GREATEST THING IVE HEARD FROM THE GUYS IN A LONG TIME
I started laughing and getting actually emotional during Error on first listen it’s that fucking good. Damn. On to number 5 (side note I’m also pretty buzzed but still lol)
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 03:28 AM
Jeez. People really are this way?
Almost certain that everyone in this forum right now pre ordered. It cost me over $80. Ive spent a cpl thousand buying their art and seeing them before shows and even had a beer with them. Share the record with me. If not.... ok. Would be awesome on my night off with everyone in bed, ate a browny, if a kind soul just said "ok its out there and i could just forget its not a sacred secret, its music, and share!?
ERROR SO FAR... WOW.
Settle down Francis. This isn't a new leviathan album or something
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens on Spotify or whatever. Man this is sad. A week ago or something I'd get it, but like... not even two days.
A lot of people are going to be absolutely blitzing it on spotify on repeat, it will barely make a difference in the end. IMO it did really well to last this long.
But then you can't be super pretentious about it
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:35 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens on Spotify or whatever. Man this is sad. A week ago or something I'd get it, but like... not even two days.
A lot of people are going to be absolutely blitzing it on spotify on repeat, it will barely make a difference in the end. IMO it did really well to last this long.
I agree. It's just the frustration that's come out of having spent so much time protecting this thing so to speak, I was really hoping for a no-leak. It did brilliantly.
To those wondering, it's a good album. Gore was ok and this is much better. So don't worry
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 23, 2020, 03:33 AM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 03:28 AM
Jeez. People really are this way?
going nutts on a forum the week an album releases is a thing! Back in my day, I used to go to the local grungy dirty record store a week early like a civilized person where the owner would sell me now for cash and ring it up on release day because he knew I was cool ;D
The internet is the new normal
Ueah. Im almost 40. Grew up in one of the bigest cities in the usa. Im saying people just Come back on here and start rubbing it in before they are even finished listening when others are waiting? All the high-fives before that just happened? That's what I'm talking about. I wasn't born yesterday
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 23, 2020, 03:34 AM
ERROR SO FAR... WOW.
Yeahh man. Just finished it. Incredible 💕
I spent $100+ on this album, still no update as to when everything's gonna come. 🙄
This link is dead intro.. is just me or theres some weird Cyber punk vibe to it?
No idea how you guys are hearing this but the wait is now excruciating lol
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 03:40 AM
I spent $100+ on this album, still no update as to when everything's gonna come. 🙄
Everything has been like that for the most part. Nothing is shipping on time right now. Soak up them soundsssssssss
1 song in, ceremony. ok that was pretty freakin good. still sounds like Stephen hasn't used his 8th or 9th string yet on this, ohms or genesis
I've been looking and looking and can't find shit. :-/
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 03:38 AM
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 23, 2020, 03:33 AM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 03:28 AM
Jeez. People really are this way?
going nutts on a forum the week an album releases is a thing! Back in my day, I used to go to the local grungy dirty record store a week early like a civilized person where the owner would sell me now for cash and ring it up on release day because he knew I was cool ;D
The internet is the new normal
Ueah. Im almost 40. Grew up in one of the bigest cities in the usa. Im saying people just Come back on here and start rubbing it in before they are even finished listening when others are waiting? All the high-fives before that just happened? That's what I'm talking about. I wasn't born yesterday
OHH yeah, I gotcha. I pay no attention to that
Every track will be the best track ever while not everyone can hear it. By tomorrow or Thursday there will be a more realistic discussion about these tracks
Quote from: dearthx1 on Sep 23, 2020, 03:41 AM
I've been looking and looking and can't find shit. :-/
Me too bud but 1 more day shouldnt hurt :)
Remember Soulseek?
The vocals at the end of Error remind me of Cherry Waves and I love it.
Frank fucks
Quote from: astro_kreeper on Sep 23, 2020, 03:41 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 03:40 AM
I spent $100+ on this album, still no update as to when everything's gonna come. 🙄
Everything has been like that for the most part. Nothing is shipping on time right now. Soak up them soundsssssssss
Can't :/
Well sounds like its legit. Just found it on google. I'm pissed.
Never mind. Sorry. Ill wait it out, just got frustrated. Perfect night... i hear its great so theres promise. Ill see ot for myself
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 03:40 AM
I spent $100+ on this album, still no update as to when everything's gonna come. 🙄
amazon hasn't given me any tracking data either. so i'm worried i might not get the album on the 25, so i'm just gonna listen to the leak. it's a tradition at this point, i never can hold off until the album. last time i came close was i left like 5 songs unheard for WP release.
This wait was tame in comparison to Koi, remember this place then? Lol
Quote from: Prty on Sep 23, 2020, 03:42 AM
Quote from: dearthx1 on Sep 23, 2020, 03:41 AM
I've been looking and looking and can't find shit. :-/
Me too bud but 1 more day shouldnt hurt :)
not that I should encourage it but someone specifically referenced a site earlier... it's not there yet, but it will be... I'd go start refreshing that site ;)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:37 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:35 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens on Spotify or whatever. Man this is sad. A week ago or something I'd get it, but like... not even two days.
A lot of people are going to be absolutely blitzing it on spotify on repeat, it will barely make a difference in the end. IMO it did really well to last this long.
I agree. It's just the frustration that's come out of having spent so much time protecting this thing so to speak, I was really hoping for a no-leak. It did brilliantly.
It's been pretty buttoned up around here, so you did your part. Not much you can do about people taking pics of the actual CD in other places. Fans that get their deftones kicks from different spots on the internet would have been exposed to the happenings regardless
Does anyone else feels that ohms is the perfect way to end this beautiful record?
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 03:44 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 03:40 AM
I spent $100+ on this album, still no update as to when everything's gonna come. 🙄
amazon hasn't given me any tracking data either. so i'm worried i might not get the album on the 25, so i'm just gonna listen to the leak. it's a tradition at this point, i never can hold off until the album. last time i came close was i left like 5 songs unheard for WP release.
an inescapable tradition indeed my old friend
It's technically only 34 hours from being released on NZ spotify - that's pretty impressive.
Headline: 'New employee and record store accidentally breaks embargo'.
That's bullshit. It's more like 'Hey remember how you owe me money? or remember that secret I've been keeping for you for all these years?' to an employee or someone in the distro chain. That would be more likely.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:48 AM
It's technically only 34 hours from being released on NZ spotify - that's pretty impressive.
Headline: 'New employee and record store accidentally breaks embargo'.
That's bullshit. It's more like 'Hey remember how you owe me money? or remember that secret I've been keeping for you for all these years?' to an employee or someone in the distro chain. That would be more likely.
No, it was someone on here, 100%.
Vesanic, you did a really good good job. Don't think otherwise.
Yes, we applaud you
On first listen, while This Link Is Dead is definitely heavy, the verses of Radiant City are actually the heaviest moments on Ohms ooof
9/10 after the 1st time tru it. Gotta listen a couple more times to have a better take on things, so take this with a grain of salt.
WITH THAT BEING SAID:
It has the potential to be revered as much (if not more) as WP, IMHO. Yeah.. is THAT good.
Jesus...Im still getting chills!!!!
ps: that WP comment is going to come back to haunt me, lol...
There are a lot of chugs on this album lol, so anyone who isnt a fan of that might be pretty disappointed
Vesanic, more band communities need people like you. You do so much and you are appreciated by everyone here and the label I'm sure.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 23, 2020, 03:56 AM
There are a lot of chugs on this album lol, so anyone who isnt a fan of that might be pretty disappointed
they called me chugs in college
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 23, 2020, 03:57 AM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 23, 2020, 03:56 AM
There are a lot of chugs on this album lol, so anyone who isnt a fan of that might be pretty disappointed
they called me chugs in college
Lmfao
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:37 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:35 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:21 AM
It was literally 30 hours from giving Deftones those listens on Spotify or whatever. Man this is sad. A week ago or something I'd get it, but like... not even two days.
A lot of people are going to be absolutely blitzing it on spotify on repeat, it will barely make a difference in the end. IMO it did really well to last this long.
I agree. It's just the frustration that's come out of having spent so much time protecting this thing so to speak, I was really hoping for a no-leak. It did brilliantly.
I leave the for a few hours and come back to 13 new pages and I'm like, "yep it leaked"... They really did a fine job of containing the leak for this long, I applaud them for that.
I made a choice to wait since it's on my birthday and it'd be sacrilege to listen to a shitty leak. So, you fuckers enjoy the album I'll see you all Friday to share our thoughts. ;D
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:52 AM
Vesanic, you did a really good good job. Don't think otherwise.
Can't overstate this. If anything needs to be underscored, it's everything you do for this community, including all your efforts in preserving the album. Just imagine where the band/label would have been without you in all this?
You're an absolute champion.
Pompeji was not what I was expecting. Not bad, just didn't immediately connect with me, think it'll grow on me more. Same with Spell of Mathematics. Maybe because those two had the most hype??? Both still solid tracks though.
Daaamn, the screams on This Link is Dead. Awesome stuff.
So jealous of all these opinions. I'm searching like a madman and can't find shit.
Quote from: theataraxian on Sep 23, 2020, 03:58 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:52 AM
Vesanic, you did a really good good job. Don't think otherwise.
Can't overstate this. If anything needs to be underscored, it's everything you do for this community, including all your efforts in preserving the album. Just imagine where the band/label would have been without you in all this?
You're an absolute champion.
I 1000% second this!
Still digging through the internet but I'm afraid I'll have to give up soon. I'm happy for you guys who are listening to it tonight though.. This damn album is all I've been thinking about for weeks. Every Deftones album is a life event for me but this one feels different than the others. It's special and I am so fucking stoked to experience it.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate that.
Back to the music, talk all you want about it, it doesn't matter anymore at this point. Have fun, don't fuck it up for other people is all I'm asking and do not post links to leaks, and do not request it on here either. It's a straight ban.
I'll be back after my listen. (Yeah, I'm still a fan)
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Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:52 AM
Vesanic, you did a really good good job. Don't think otherwise.
Can't overstate this. If anything needs to be underscored, it's everything you do for this community, including all your efforts in preserving the album. Just imagine where the band/label would have been without you in all this?
You're an absolute champion.
+1 !
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
Quote from: theataraxian on Sep 23, 2020, 03:58 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 03:52 AM
Vesanic, you did a really good good job. Don't think otherwise.
Can't overstate this. If anything needs to be underscored, it's everything you do for this community, including all your efforts in preserving the album. Just imagine where the band/label would have been without you in all this?
You're an absolute champion.
Very true. Vesanic, you do a LOT for the community of Deftones fans, but then also to help the band itself. It would've been very easy to allow the leaks from Chino since they came from him specifically, but you took a high road and stuck to it even while worrying that you'd be viewed as a hypocrite for how you might have been in the past with leaks.
you guys have some brown on your nose... ;)
but yeah credit where credits due and all that
Absolutely, cheers Ves...appreciate all you do here Sir...
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Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 03:59 AM
Pompeji was not what I was expecting. Not bad, just didn't immediately connect with me, think it'll grow on me more. Same with Spell of Mathematics. Maybe because those two had the most hype??? Both still solid tracks though.
Daaamn, the screams on This Link is Dead. Awesome stuff.
The album sucks honestly. You can tell a bunch of nerds just started listening around KNY. This is shit.
When you first listened to the band doesn't change your music tastes lol you sound dumb. I started listening just before DE but that's my least favourite album. Sorry you don't understand the concept of opinions.
Hearing the singles a few times didn't affect anything for me. I kept it pretty measured. I stopped listening to them after a few times. In my humble opinion, It's an record you play all the way through and don't skip anything. It really well put together.
Quote from: CuckTones on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 03:59 AM
Pompeji was not what I was expecting. Not bad, just didn't immediately connect with me, think it'll grow on me more. Same with Spell of Mathematics. Maybe because those two had the most hype??? Both still solid tracks though.
Daaamn, the screams on This Link is Dead. Awesome stuff.
The album sucks honestly. You can tell a bunch of nerds just started listening around KNY. This is shit.
Walk into traffic
Quote from: CuckTones on Sep 23, 2020, 04:03 AM
"People who leak are shit!" -Ves
"I'm going to listen to the leak" - Also Ves
What a fucking chode
"What a fucking chode"
-Cucktones
There, that's the whole burn
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 04:05 AM
Hearing the singles a few times didn't affect anything for me. I kept it pretty measured. I stopped listening to them after a few times. In my humble opinion, It's an record you play all the way through and don't skip anything. It really well put together.
It affected me because I impatiently sat through Genesis for the 50th time waiting for the next song lol but I haven't listened to Ohms much so that'll be a nice way to close it.
Quote from: CuckTones on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 03:59 AM
Pompeji was not what I was expecting. Not bad, just didn't immediately connect with me, think it'll grow on me more. Same with Spell of Mathematics. Maybe because those two had the most hype??? Both still solid tracks though.
Daaamn, the screams on This Link is Dead. Awesome stuff.
The album sucks honestly. You can tell a bunch of nerds just started listening around KNY. This is shit.
Don't be a gatekeeping asshole.
24 Hours....just gotta breathe and be patient, but man this sucks lol
Its a miracle it took this long. This is a real win for the band/label. The hype surrounding this album is incredible. Worth the wait IMO. It's so good.
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
Lots of chugga chugga, but nothing like the songs you mencioned. It HAS ITS OWN BEAUTY.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 23, 2020, 04:07 AM
24 Hours....just gotta breathe and be patient, but man this sucks lol
You can do it.
I would have done the same thing if I didn't have stop procrastinating cleaning my garage. That's my excuse to myself anyway.
To anyone joining the forum now:
Be cool or you're banned.
Well, I've finished it. I love it, but I love all the albums, so that doesn't say much. Impossible to rank it right now, but I'm extremely happy. Got a good range of everything you can expect from Deftones, and on some songs/moments they sound a bit out of the box in a good way. Based on reviews and people's descriptions, I was expecting a darker vibe at least for some songs, but I don't really get that much. Also, Ohms closes the album really well. I wouldn't have thought it just from the single, but listening to it all, it feels complete...and then it immediately flows nicely into Genesis, unfortunately for my sleep-deprived mind lol.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 04:14 AM
To anyone joining the forum now:
Be cool or you're banned.
That's fair, be kind or be gone!
I ordered everything I could, I just couldn't get my hands on those damn cassettes though :(
Screw it. I won't listen to it.
Nah, that Ceremony chorus has no right to be that catchy lol.
Having known most of you long time guys specific "Deftones Vibe" when it comes to you favorite styles of songs makes this feedback valued. At least by me, thanks!
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 23, 2020, 04:07 AM
24 Hours....just gotta breathe and be patient, but man this sucks lol
Thanks to you I won't listen to it. Cheers bud
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 04:18 AM
Nah, that Ceremony chorus has no right to be that catchy lol.
I'm leaving you tonight
I'm listening to White Pony ;D
Remember to grab your copy of "Ohms" especially if you're going to listen to the leak. Respect the artists
http://www.deftones.com/
Going to bed on page 139. When I wake up this thing will be hitting 200, lol...
Oh, welp, I found the seagulls in the album. Thought it would be cheesy, but it fits.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 04:24 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 23, 2020, 04:07 AM
24 Hours....just gotta breathe and be patient, but man this sucks lol
Thanks to you I won't listen to it. Cheers bud
DUDE! Please don't let this be true LOL,
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 23, 2020, 04:31 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 04:24 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 23, 2020, 04:07 AM
24 Hours....just gotta breathe and be patient, but man this sucks lol
Thanks to you I won't listen to it. Cheers bud
DUDE! Please don't let this be true LOL,
Very true. I'm falling in love with White Pony all over again instead. Digital Bath is still one of the best songs in the world. :)
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 04:29 AM
Remember to grab your copy of "Ohms" especially if you're going to listen to the leak. Respect the artists
http://www.deftones.com/
My $80 bundle is en route (hopefully), couldn't wait, cracked on the leak. Hoooooooooooooooooly Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
Sounds like he drops to a super low C-Sharp note during the chorus (around the 0:58 mark, and again around 2:20) on The Spell of Mathematics. Haven't really noticed the 9th string anywhere else thus far.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 04:36 AM
Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
I think TSOM sounds like a 9...but I cant say for sure.
we've got gold here man
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 04:29 AM
Remember to grab your copy of "Ohms" especially if you're going to listen to the leak. Respect the artists
http://www.deftones.com/
Thanks for your work here mate. I totally understand your position regarding leak talk.
Ok fuck yall. Goonight
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
I think TSOM sounds like a 9...but I cant say for sure.
TSOM and Headless.
Hey guys. This is a VERY VERY different deftones. But it's awesome. They're doing things that they've never done before (the bridge on pompeji for example).
Ceremony is just fucking awesome. Man, fucking awesome
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 04:49 AM
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
I think TSOM sounds like a 9...but I cant say for sure.
TSOM and Headless.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 04:50 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 04:49 AM
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
I think TSOM sounds like a 9...but I cant say for sure.
TSOM and Error and Headless. I'll double check for you later.
Frank is all over this album,... And steph... You are gonna KNOW when he's going to using the 9 string
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 04:50 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 04:49 AM
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
I think TSOM sounds like a 9...but I cant say for sure.
TSOM and Headless.
interesting how little he uses it. he spammed the hell out of the 8 string on diamond eyes. but the riffs he made were really good catchy stuff though. this time he barely using his new 9 string (and i don't hear him using the 8th much either)
This link is dead, once almost a meme in here (check some pages back) is absolutely BRILLIANT!
Quote from: pepis on Sep 23, 2020, 04:50 AM
Hey guys. This is a VERY VERY different deftones. But it's awesome. They're doing things that they've never done before (the bridge on pompeji for example).
Ceremony is just fucking awesome. Man, fucking awesome
FUUUCKK man, i already preordered the vinyl and cd, but i can't find the leak anywhere
Got through my first listen and wow. They absolutely crushed it. There are 2 songs I need to listen to a few more times, but everything else is just great. Everyone should enjoy this.
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Quote from: thatdeftkid on Sep 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Does the 9-string just do Rosemary-esque chugga chugga or does Stef riff a little bit? And, any riffs that stick out as much as BQAD or My Own Summer?
i'd say the song "Ohms" has the best riffs on the album. the whole way through Stef just kills it in that song
i can't pinpoint anytime Stef uses the 9th string. anyone hear an exact part where he's for sure using it? i'm only 1 listen in
I think TSOM sounds like a 9...but I cant say for sure.
TSOM and Headless.
maybe urantia as well? or is that the 8th string?
Nah, probably an 8.
When he's using his 9 he's not always using the lowest strings anyway. He just fits in with the rest of the guys - especially if chino is playing guitar on the track too. For example on the OHMS clip he using his 9 and only using the strings that you could pick up a guitar tuned to standard tuning and play it on still. I could find out the exact songs he's using his 9 on and get back to you later.
*Wakes up*
*Sees 15 more pages*
"Yeah I think this leaked..."
It leaked so much you could float there forever...
I might wait till Thursday to be honest. What's the audio quality of the leak like?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 05:04 AM
It leaked so much you could float there forever...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:06 AM
I might wait till Thursday to be honest. What's the audio quality of the leak like?
Same quality as Spotify
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:06 AM
I might wait till Thursday to be honest. What's the audio quality of the leak like?
192 but sounds pretty damn good.
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:06 AM
I might wait till Thursday to be honest. What's the audio quality of the leak like?
Same quality as Spotify
Mmmmh not sure about that...
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 05:04 AM
It leaked so much you could float there forever...
where??!!
First post woooo. Have the album pre-ordered on Google Play and also a physical copy on its way with a shirt :)
Caved and listened to the leak, TSoM is the standout for me. Wow.
Quote from: acidhologram on Sep 23, 2020, 05:14 AM
TSoM is the standout for me. Wow.
Called it. This song and another passage are the two that gave me proper chills on first listen (Chino's stream).
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 05:14 AM
Quote from: acidhologram on Sep 23, 2020, 05:14 AM
TSoM is the standout for me. Wow.
Called it. This song and another passage are the two that gave me proper chills on first listen (Chino's stream).
Its absolutely mesmerising. So dreamy.
I want to hear said leak. * pouts and crossed arms*
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:06 AM
I might wait till Thursday to be honest. What's the audio quality of the leak like?
Same quality as Spotify
Mmmmh not sure about that...
Ok. Gotta go back to sleep now anyway. Having been there for the original Mixlr set, it doesn't make much sense to listen to this in anything other than full quality, even if that set was 'only' six full songs.
I'll see how I feel later. Enjoy, everyone.
holy fucking jesus shit
i wasn't hyped enough for this. it's just abnormally good
I'm honestly impressed with Stef's work here. Its not like hes soloing and shit, but I cant say I was expecting something like this...its so different!
Also, Frank has stepped up, big time.
And THANK GOD Terry Date is back! This sound massive without going too far.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 05:13 AM
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:06 AM
I might wait till Thursday to be honest. What's the audio quality of the leak like?
Same quality as Spotify
Mmmmh not sure about that...
I'll see the difference Thursday night, but I uploaded it to my phone and listened on my headphones and it sounds really good.
honestly, might be the result from a first listen, but this makes White Pony sound square, its just so ridiculously elaborate on all fronts. the singles were DEFINITELY the least innovative tracks
Spell of Mathematics is SEXY AS FUCK
Joined so I could share in the hype. I've had no luck finding the leak but I'll just keep reading everyone's impressions to hold me over. Cannot wait to sit down and soak in this new album.
Been listening to them since Adrenaline came out when I was in high school.
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 23, 2020, 05:23 AM
honestly, might be the result from a first listen, but this makes White Pony sound square, its just so ridiculously elaborate on all fronts. the singles were DEFINITELY the least innovative tracks
Spell of Mathematics is SEXY AS FUCK
Ooo this post has got me super hyped.
I'm holding for tomorrow midnight (Sydney)
Also new here, having no luck finding any sort of leaks online, since I have no clue where/how to look properly.
honestly, a lot of the vocals and guitar work, especially in the first half, really reminded me of Adrenaline (or B-Sides and Rarities) somehow. apparently I like Steph's riffs the best when they're in a higher register, huh
also, the screaming on This Link is Dead sounds more like rap screaming (over a GROOVY as fuck rhythm) than WGTB-like screaming, which isn't a bad thing at all, just different from what I was expecting (maybe for the better?)
like really, this whole album is groovy as fuck. I DEMAND this to be a huge commercial success for the band
I hope they shoot a video for TSoM. I really do.
Idk if its going to happen tho. What a shame.
Chino going at Jesus pretty hard in pompeji. i like it
man this album is good stuff so far, 2 listens in
TSoM honestly was worth the price of admission. Fuck. Really solid album. All I can say.
They have to use Terry from here on out. This is so good.
Almost finished with my first listen.. So far so good. I'll wait for Friday to talk specifics
Error has to be the loudest song they've ever made. Not the heaviest - the loudest. The distortion on Stef's guitar sounds like the machinery at a power plant.
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:06 AM
I might wait till Thursday to be honest. What's the audio quality of the leak like?
Same quality as Spotify
Mmmmh not sure about that...
I'll see the difference Thursday night, but I uploaded it to my phone and listened on my headphones and it sounds really good.
Listening on a pair of Bose QC 2's and agree. Sounds great
Again: no PM requests.
After first listen I can't even pick a favorite track. Each song is so layered and bursting with personality. I will say the soundscape ending to Pompeji fading into This Link is Dead is a top 10 moment in their entire discography.
I am in love all over again
Am very excited to listen to the album on friday after reading all your reactions. I just hope that the album is also a grower cause a lot of you are loving it on the first listen. I feel like the Deftones albums that stayed with me the most are the ones that took me a while to figure out - like the Self Titled and White Pony. Unravelling the songs over weeks and months always ended up having this long lasting effect. Am hoping it's the same case with OHMS and that I don't get bored of it after a couple weeks.
That being said - i'm fucking pumped!
I'm not quite sold on Chino's screaming on The Spell of Mathematics yet. Might be a case of trying to sound heavy on a song that doesn't need it.
Yeah... I couldn't keep away after all.
If this is what a Stef album sounds like I'm going to need a few more of them. This is really something special. Everyone shines and it's so unexpected in so many ways.
the line in "radiant city" "no one alive has taken me here" reminds me a lot of Palms "you are inside the heart of this web" from Patagonia. this song is awesome
This Link Is Dead is like some bizarre combination of Adrenaline, ATF and a Team Sleep demo. It's pretty wild.
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:52 AM
Am very excited to listen to the album on friday after reading all your reactions. I just hope that the album is also a grower cause a lot of you are loving it on the first listen. I feel like the Deftones albums that stayed with me the most are the ones that took me a while to figure out - like the Self Titled and White Pony. Unravelling the songs over weeks and months always ended up having this long lasting effect. Am hoping it's the same case with OHMS and that I don't get bored of it after a couple weeks.
That being said - i'm fucking pumped!
That's the best aspect about this album. It will take time to dig into this material and most of it isn't necessarily instantly catchy, to me at least but I love that... I can say that it's another amazing piece of art from the boys. It really does sound like every sound or idea they have brought to the table but elevated and refined.
I'm just two listens in, but I believe it is as much a grower as it is an instant hit, simply because there's just so much to listen for. The songs also seem pretty complex structurally, so its not just a bunch of instantly recognizable hooks which will stay in your head for a week but grow tiring quickly after that. There's a lot to sink in, but its all just obviously good
So, is Headless gonna be the sleeper of Ohms? A beautifully trippy song.
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:52 AM
Am very excited to listen to the album on friday after reading all your reactions. I just hope that the album is also a grower cause a lot of you are loving it on the first listen. I feel like the Deftones albums that stayed with me the most are the ones that took me a while to figure out - like the Self Titled and White Pony. Unravelling the songs over weeks and months always ended up having this long lasting effect. Am hoping it's the same case with OHMS and that I don't get bored of it after a couple weeks.
That being said - i'm fucking pumped!
Trust me, there's a lot to unpack here. This might be their most adventurous album since White Pony in terms of just the scope of sounds on the album and how unorthodox the composition is on some songs. Much like WP, every song has it's own really specific identity, there's not a lot of sameness on this album.
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 23, 2020, 05:58 AM
I'm just two listens in, but I believe it is as much a grower as it is an instant hit, simply because there's just so much to listen for. The songs also seem pretty complex structurally, so its not just a bunch of instantly recognizable hooks which will stay in your head for a week but grow tiring quickly after that. There's a lot to sink in, but its all just obviously good
You kind of beat me to my point before I posted it, but you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly
This is a White Pony level of masterpiece album. For me this may be even personal fav ever (S/T - 2nd place, Koi/Gore - 3rd).
After all these years band + Terry pulled off such well crafted music. I'm so fucking impressed and happy now. Goosebumps and everything...
Radiant City has a pretty unique chorus.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 06:00 AM
So, is Headless gonna be the sleeper of Ohms? A beautifully trippy song.
After my first listen it's the track I immediately returned to. I think it's Chino's vocals.
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Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:52 AM
Am very excited to listen to the album on friday after reading all your reactions. I just hope that the album is also a grower cause a lot of you are loving it on the first listen. I feel like the Deftones albums that stayed with me the most are the ones that took me a while to figure out - like the Self Titled and White Pony. Unravelling the songs over weeks and months always ended up having this long lasting effect. Am hoping it's the same case with OHMS and that I don't get bored of it after a couple weeks.
That being said - i'm fucking pumped!
Trust me, there's a lot to unpack here. This might be their most adventurous album since White Pony in terms of just the scope of sounds on the album and how unorthodox the composition is on some songs. Much like WP, every song has it's own really specific identity, there's not a lot of sameness on this album.
I agree - it does seem to be one of their more complex albums.
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 23, 2020, 06:02 AM
This is a White Pony level of masterpiece album. For me this may be even personal fav ever (S/T - 2nd place, Koi/Gore - 3rd).
After all these years band + Terry pulled off such well crafted music. I'm so fucking impressed and happy now. Goosebumps and everything...
I honestly kind of agree. This may just be my number 2 after WP so far. I really am trying to remain aware of the hype and how that may be affecting my opinion, but honestly it's just that fucking good.
I feel like people are gonna downplay Genesis just because it's a single. [DaveChappelleVoice] Nah, that shit is still a BANGER, SON! [/DaveChapelleVoice]
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 23, 2020, 05:58 AM
I'm just two listens in, but I believe it is as much a grower as it is an instant hit, simply because there's just so much to listen for. The songs also seem pretty complex structurally, so its not just a bunch of instantly recognizable hooks which will stay in your head for a week but grow tiring quickly after that. There's a lot to sink in, but its all just obviously good
They are so back and forth/ contrast so much in within a single track and link them together really well. They definitely had time to think that stuff out a bit more this time.
I'm just going to go read that Sterogum review again.... that was some funny shit.... starts off using every adjective he has in his arsenal, then just gives up and makes up ridiculous one liners.
It doesn't even matter how accurate the reviewer was. It's one of the best I've read for ages though 😂
Urantia isn't getting enough love. Chino's voice is incredible in that one.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 06:03 AM
Radiant City has a pretty unique chorus.
For sure. I feel that way about a few tracks. Different isn't bad tho
hot take: the first half of Error might be their most "radio rock" sounding piece of music ever, but in an oddly unconventional way. also, the bridge/outro really reminds me of something off Adrenaline (Fist?) especially the really high, distant vocals
TSoM is this albums' Geometric Headdress. the verses might be sonically the heaviest part of this record, but everything is just so goddamn SEXUAL.
When I heard Chino play Ceremony in June, I thought it would be a divisive song because the chorus is definitely more on the poppy side of Deftones. But fuck, is it infectious. Also, you really have to give them props for packing so many switch-ups and changes in a song that's only three and a half minutes.
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 23, 2020, 06:09 AM
Urantia isn't getting enough love. Chino's voice is incredible in that one.
It may be my favorite! holy shit thats an awesome song!
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Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 23, 2020, 06:02 AM
This is a White Pony level of masterpiece album. For me this may be even personal fav ever (S/T - 2nd place, Koi/Gore - 3rd).
After all these years band + Terry pulled off such well crafted music. I'm so fucking impressed and happy now. Goosebumps and everything...
I honestly kind of agree. This may just be my number 2 after WP so far. I really am trying to remain aware of the hype and how that may be affecting my opinion, but honestly it's just that fucking good.
Barely any Deftones song before stoked me at 1st listen as much as basically each track here. Of course it's a complex thing and will grow on us + on a friday we gonna get better sound quality but I can feel already that this finest Deftones quality. I lacked Terry produced Deftones in my life and havent realized it till now.
I might be repeating myself here, but sweet godly fuck, TSoM is sooooo fucking sexy. Like really, that outro just sounds like the best lovemaking imaginable. Somehow sexier than No Ordinary Love and Digital Bath put together.
This might be my favorite.
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 23, 2020, 06:02 AM
This is a White Pony level of masterpiece album. For me this may be even personal fav ever (S/T - 2nd place, Koi/Gore - 3rd).
After all these years band + Terry pulled off such well crafted music. I'm so fucking impressed and happy now. Goosebumps and everything...
Sonically, there's a totally diff type of mix happening on the first single/closing track. I'll wait until I have the real copy in my hands to comment on that more though. The Kick and Guitars for example - different EQ moves and multi-band compressor tactics on that one in particular.
Chino's voice on Urantia is pristine. How does he do it? I'm shocked it wasn't the first single, honestly - it's too damn catchy.
The song is a crazy blend of metal and trip-hop. That description sounds like something that could be ridiculous, but they make it look effortless.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 06:09 AM
When I heard Chino play Ceremony in June, I thought it would be a divisive song because the chorus is definitely more on the poppy side of Deftones. But fuck, is it infectious. Also, you really have to give them props for packing so many switch-ups and changes in a song that's only three and a half minutes.
it's not that poppy imo, kinda dark stuff really
fuck it's nice to finally have a new album by them. longest wait between records, but seems to be worth it
This has to be the most complex time I've had as a mod yet. Hope you're enjoying it peeps!
you did a great job, Ves. I probably would've given in to it if the low quality leaks were more easily available, and jesus I'm glad I wasn't spoiled.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 06:01 AM
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 23, 2020, 05:52 AM
Am very excited to listen to the album on friday after reading all your reactions. I just hope that the album is also a grower cause a lot of you are loving it on the first listen. I feel like the Deftones albums that stayed with me the most are the ones that took me a while to figure out - like the Self Titled and White Pony. Unravelling the songs over weeks and months always ended up having this long lasting effect. Am hoping it’s the same case with OHMS and that I don’t get bored of it after a couple weeks.
That being said - i’m fucking pumped!
Trust me, there’s a lot to unpack here. This might be their most adventurous album since White Pony in terms of just the scope of sounds on the album and how unorthodox the composition is on some songs. Much like WP, every song has it’s own really specific identity, there’s not a lot of sameness on this album.
Pompeji might be the weirdest song they've ever made. And it's good.
Pompeji is probably an instant classic not just for the immaculate sounds, which sound like being trapped on a haunted pirate ship that's sinking into the ocean, but also because it has the lyric "Making hard to believe in...JESUS CHRIST!"...
And that's not even mentioning Frank going beast mode and turning the song into the soundtrack for a lost David Lynch movie at the end.
Pompeji was the only the only song that didn't immediately grab me... until that outro. His vocals on the chorus are different from what I would expect.
I'm sure it will be my favorite song in a couple of weeks though haha.
Urantia is amazing. God I love that hook.
All I can say is that if/when they start touring they better not bitch out and play only Genesis and Ohms. This whole record needs to be showcased live.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 06:14 AM
Chino's voice on Urantia is pristine. How does he do it? I'm shocked it wasn't the first single, honestly - it's too damn catchy.
Completely agree. It's a crime that wasn't the first single... it's the perfect single. But they haven't never been able to get that right... 🤔😩🤦🏻♂️ What a perfect single.
The song a crazy blend of metal and trip-hop. That description sounds like something that could be ridiculous, but they make it look effortless.
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 23, 2020, 06:25 AM
All I can say is that if/when they start touring they better not bitch out and play only Genesis and Ohms. This whole record needs to be showcased live.
*laughs in Pink Maggit*
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 23, 2020, 06:25 AM
All I can say is that if/when they start touring they better not bitch out and play only Genesis and Ohms. This whole record needs to be showcased live.
I have a feeling tbe rescheduled tour will turn into the Ohms tour. I kept my tickets from the first time around
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 23, 2020, 06:25 AM
All I can say is that if/when they start touring they better not bitch out and play only Genesis and Ohms. This whole record needs to be showcased live.
100% agreed. Every song here would absolutely kill live
Ohms works better within the context of the album as a nice little epilogue, but it's probably still my least favorite of the album. The "time won't change this" part seems like Chino pushing against Stef's riff a little too much. Still a good song, though - appreciate Stef for going for riffs that aren't just bruisers.
Okay, those are my discombobulated thoughts. Good night.
I'm a little sad for Gore now, tbh. If only its production was anywhere closer to this.... this just sounds so gorgeous, so thick yet so spacy, so pristine... also sounds very well mastered, the Ohms video had me scared as there's a lot of very obvious clipping on the audio there, but the album sounds smooth as butter
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 23, 2020, 05:58 AM
I'm just two listens in, but I believe it is as much a grower as it is an instant hit, simply because there's just so much to listen for. The songs also seem pretty complex structurally, so its not just a bunch of instantly recognizable hooks which will stay in your head for a week but grow tiring quickly after that. There's a lot to sink in, but its all just obviously good
Lovely - this is exactly what I wanted to hear!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:16 AM
This has to be the most complex time I've had as a mod yet. Hope you're enjoying it peeps!
Has anyone got the dual wield, ban hammers dropped on them? Or mostly well behaved?
Just hanging out
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 23, 2020, 06:38 AM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 23, 2020, 05:58 AM
I'm just two listens in, but I believe it is as much a grower as it is an instant hit, simply because there's just so much to listen for. The songs also seem pretty complex structurally, so its not just a bunch of instantly recognizable hooks which will stay in your head for a week but grow tiring quickly after that. There's a lot to sink in, but its all just obviously good
Lovely - this is exactly what I wanted to hear!
RE: SMLiberator's comment: I totally agree with your assessment. That quality gives it lots of longevity too.
Multiple listens in, and yeah, there isn't a bad song on here. Already putting it above Koi and Gore, and we'll see how far it rises up over time.
I mean White Pony is really good guys
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:46 AM
I mean White Pony is really good guys
Thanks for your work here Ves. It will be worth it to wait for the highest quality version.
I'm just now able sit an actually enjoy and listen to this.I am absolutely in love. maybe it's the hype talking, but I think this album actually exceeded my hype. I'm curious to see if there's even one person that is disappointed?I think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone that's disappointed with this beauty.
Ves, I'm not inside your brain so I don't know exactly how you will feel, but there's a good chance this album could enter your Pantheon of albums from this band. if anything I would bet money that this will be your favorite album from the Sergio era. I could be wrong but you'll definitely like it more than gore that's for certain LOL
totally do believe the hype. hearing it now it's not surprising AT ALL how there were no negative reviews.
also speaking of Sergio, his basswork in Ceremony is gorgeous. I'm not sure whether my favorite part about this song is that, the part Chino goes "oooooh" or the part imediately after the "ooooh"
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:59 AM
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
Nope, still holding out!
8)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:59 AM
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
Hey Ves.
I also have not heard...
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:59 AM
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
Everyone give it up for those two!
Ps - It's not White Pony. Nothing else ever will be. For example my favourite records are ATF and WP (if I had to choose only two records). This is just different. It will take time to sink in to where you would slot it into your rankings. I await your appraisal upon listening.
It's just different and it flows really well.
Abe is fucking killing it on this album.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 07:08 AM
Abe is fucking killing it on this album.
Yeah he does!
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 07:08 AM
Abe is fucking killing it on this album.
everyone is, really. huge kudos to everyone in the band, this might be the best work from every one of them yet. I really hope they get a lot of new fans from this, they totally deserve it.
YOU FUCKING GUYS. THAT ONE TWO PUNCH WITH
SPELL AND POMEJI.
THAT IS FUCKING ALL. HOLY FUCK.
What a way to wake up here in the netherlands. Ive got shit to do but im excited to listen to it later today (and yes my record is ordered!). Your comments are hyping me up!
the hyper dissonant guitars + crazy hi hats groove in the verses for This Link is Dead with Chino rap-screaming on top just sounds soooooooo hype, for real
aight, after two listens imma refrain from listening to it now until the official release, still wanna give the band the hype streams. two more days
Albums fucking sick, should be illegal for them to do albums with anyone but Terry Date. Each song is really interesting, Gore had a lot of different ideas that I found found really intriguing but the songs themselves were sort of locked into that one idea and as a album it just wasn't very cohesive, This one is more cohesive as an album and each song stands on it's own merit with unique traits and different elements to keep it interesting.
Guitars are more dynamic, Bass is more melodic and present in mix, Abe is groovy as fuck, Frank is doing more cool shit (that you can actually here more now) and Chino is smashing it with the vocal changes and melodies
These guys should be seriously proud for putting an album like this out so far into their careers, the longevity of these guys is crazy, looks like we choose the right band to be fanboys of.
on first listen, pompeji really stood out, thinking this might be a grower cause not blown my load yet
I'm speechless with this album.
Man.
Those who said that old classic sound and aggression was gone.
How god dam wrong you were.
Chino is reminding me so much of s/t vocally throughout this whole thing.
So much to unpack.
Running through it again and this has to be the heaviest album of the Sergio era and probably the heaviest since S/T. The riffs are so chunky and crunchy on every song and Chino even screams on the most ballad-like songs lol.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 23, 2020, 07:57 AMThese guys should be seriously proud for putting an album like this out so far into their careers, the longevity of these guys is crazy, looks like we choose the right band to be fanboys of.
for real, they revolutionized the genre 20 years ago, this late in their carreer they could just keep it safe and stick to repeating the style that made them big and still maintain a pretty solid fanbase, but it seems like they just can't keep from reinventing themselves. really outstanding
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 08:03 AM
Running through it again and this has to be the heaviest album of the Sergio era and probably the heaviest since S/T. The riffs are so chunky and crunchy on every song and Chino even screams on the most ballad-like songs lol.
Haha yeah, on first listen I kept getting caught out. It reminds me of the old interviews from the last couple of albums where a band member was quoted saying something along the lines of "we turned away from our instincts and tried to do the unexpected" but it actually feels like it on this album
Wow, go to bed and wake up to more pages!
I guess I'm going to be blasting something out working at home today.......
Will there be elimination's threads?
Some really, really cool chords on Radiant City's chorus...
also, who still rips stuff in 192kbps, what century are you living in!
Quote from: SquealLikeaPig on Sep 23, 2020, 08:29 AM
Would someone be so kind as to send me a google drive link to the album?
No asking for leaks.
This album is both instantly brilliant yet deep and complex. It's a bit of a paradox. someone basically said the same thing above. it's definitely a grower but there is almost nothing that is disappointing either.it's really hard to find the words to describe this sound. after few listens I think I can safely say it exceeded the hype, and my hype was fuking through the roof. for those that are holding out for another day oh my goodness you're in store for something special.
also I don't think it's a stretch to say that Genesis and Holmes are the weakest tracks on the album. But even then they sound so so much better in context of the full album. it's hard to say where this will rank as time passes, but this will at least be considered one of their most strongest and consistent albums. there's not a track that's even remotely worth skipping IMO.
Still haven't heard this yet 8)
Enjoy the album, everyone! I'm waiting until the release date, like a good boy.
Best deftones album ever, love you all, bye
Fucking hell this is good!
Quote from: RaptureWS on Sep 23, 2020, 08:39 AM
This album is both instantly brilliant yet deep and complex. It's a bit of a paradox. someone basically said the same thing above. it's definitely a grower but there is almost nothing that is disappointing either.it's really hard to find the words to describe this sound. after few listens I think I can safely say it exceeded the hype, and my hype was fuking through the roof. for those that are holding out for another day oh my goodness you're in store for something special.
also I don't think it's a stretch to say that Genesis and Holmes are the weakest tracks on the album. But even then they sound so so much better in context of the full album. it's hard to say where this will rank as time passes, but this will at least be considered one of their most strongest and consistent albums. there's not a track that's even remotely worth skipping IMO.
Holmes :D
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
The lyrics in TLID are really intriguing. Depends on how you interpret them, but I can't help feel that it's referring to his Deftones future.
Just my opinion of course.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:59 AM
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
No :( feels like I'm a little kid waiting for Christmas to roll around again
Quote from: stu_101 on Sep 23, 2020, 09:51 AM
The lyrics in TLID are really intriguing. Depends on how you interpret them, but I can't help feel that it's referring to his Deftones future.
Just my opinion of course.
I felt it's kind of like Good Squads lyrics.... Talking about expectations etc
That was a stellar first listen, can't stop jamming Urantia and Error's closer is just godly, like damn.
I will say the title track love goes up for me, I already did dig it but I will say it fits the 'context of the album' so to speak. Will leave it at that.
For me, the whole record is utterly incredible. Radiant City is jaw dropping.
This album is ... all sorts of wow. It's nothing like I was expecting it to be. It's like the band scored an unmade, heavy take on a Blade Runner movie from an alternate dimension.
Quote from: Prty on Sep 23, 2020, 09:57 AM
That was a stellar first listen, can't stop jamming Urantia and Error's closer is just godly, like damn.
I will say the title track love goes up for me, I already did dig it but I will say it fits the 'context of the album' so to speak. Will leave it at that.
I really dig 'Error', it slaps.
Radiant City is incredible
It's sitting on my phone right now, looking all seductive. Don't know whether to play yet.
So people.....
Steph might not be using the lowest strings of the 9 on certain songs. I can here hear three songs I think he uses it on.... I'd be interested to know what you all think.
He uses it in the Ohms video - Probably for promo etc, but you can play that on a 6 in standard :) It's sorta of difficult to work out if some are in 9 or 8. As he might be using it, but not going as low as it goes.
I think I hear 3 tracks that it sounds like the 9 string.
Stef shredding on that urethra track :o
Quote from: Capt Snow on Sep 23, 2020, 10:08 AM
Stef shredding on that urethra track :o
Urantia is like Steph and Chino had dual custody of that song :D It still works though.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 10:16 AM
Frank though. He's all over this whole record. Can hear him the whole time just charging.
Holy fuck spell of mathemetics has a beatifully haunting chorus™
Wow, the end of Error gave me chills, pure Digital Bath vibes. I'm loving the trip-hoppy bits, the production is fantastic and I love how audible Frank is. About to listen to tracks 5-7 now which have been hyped up the most, I'm anxious!
Looks like I missed alot last night after going to bed, just getting caught up now. Will be listening soon.
Frank D!
This Link is Dead.....WOW
I caved.
On first listen I think Genesis might be the least good song on it. Which says something.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 11:10 AM
I caved.
On first listen I think Genesis might be the least good song on it. Which says something.
Definitely agree here.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 11:10 AM
I caved.
On first listen I think Genesis might be the least good song on it. Which says something.
Welcome to the dark side, friend. ;D
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 23, 2020, 06:09 AM
TSoM is this albums' Geometric Headdress.
TSoM is 1000% better than Geometric, imo. Its not even close.
This album is so incredibly well sequenced. It's not front loaded - both halves are as good as each other. A really impressive album by anybody's standards let alone a 9th. 9th album!
On my way to TSOM, tracks 2,3,4 gives me British Rock vibes, specifically a frantic and rave-y rainy London night. Dunno why such specific imagery. This is the most Deftones sounding and least Deftones sounding Deftones have ever been. Really surprising 80's, 90's vibes. Gonna listen to 320 when pre order drops
I think Radiant City might be my favorite song on here. Headless maybe a close second.
Urantia sounds like if Duran Duran did a chugga chugga metal record.... How can a song sound like both of those things? Skilllsssss Deftones, skillllssssss.
TSOM is incredible!
I really don't get hits love for Spell, I think it's the weakest song.
The bass on TSOM is excellent
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 23, 2020, 11:50 AM
I really don't get hits love for Spell, I think it's the weakest song.
inb4 banhammer
Ohms is an out and out a night album
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 11:53 AM
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 23, 2020, 11:50 AM
I really don't get hits love for Spell, I think it's the weakest song.
inb4 banhammer
By weakest I mean the least good one :P
Radiant City is heavier than The Link is Dead
Where to fucking begin? This is not a review cause Im just doing my second listening of the entire record, but my god, for now I feel pretty safe to say this is everything I always wanted Deftones to be since White Pony. Keep in mind: this is not White Pony 2.0, but to me it feels like the potential I felt in this band back then REAALLLLLY comes to fruition on this album. It's hard for me to explain why that is exactly. Part of it is that the songs sound so unconventional structure- and soundwise, just like on WP. And part of it is that the whole thing feels so layered, like when you listen for the first few times you just HEAR that theres so much going on and you know youll have countless listenings ahead of you to just get a grasp on everything there. Like after a thousands of times, it sometimes still feels like you're finding new stuff on WP, right? Thats what this feels like to me.
Also a lot of stuff reminded me of ATF. Some truly inspiring, hard riffs and Chino's voice is sooooo butterly smooth. I also love that each member truly shines here. Abe's drums really pop, Frank has never been more present on the production AND song structure and Sergio really shows what he can do here. And Stef of course, he really fucking shines on this record, my god!
The album is expertly paced and just long enough. After the closing track I instantly want to hear it again.
There are truly some melodies here that touch me on an emotional level. I mean as you can read above Im a huge White Pony fan, but Im also still in love with Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan. However, those records feel a bit 'simpler' to me. Dont get me wrong, I love how they make Deftones feel energized again and I think they're both stone cold modern classics, but Ohms just has this extra special thing that I really can't explain. More layers, I guess? More difficult to graps structures and melodies?
I don't want to hype myself and yall up too much cause I remember being pretty fine with Gore as well on first listen, but that didnt take very long. But I have such a good feeling about this one. It might become one of my favorites. Might. We will see. For now, this is really an interesting release and its even more mindblowning knowing this is the 9th release of the band. Jesus, how do they do it?
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality. Sounds good but a little sloshy on the high end. I've reserved myself to the one listen for this reason.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality. Sounds good but a little sloshy on the high end. I've reserved myself to the one listen for this reason.
Yes, leak doesn't sound that good. Can feel there's so much going on, but the rip quality doesn't do justice
First listen through:
* Guitars are LOUD, dayum Stephen! YESS!
* Big 80s synth pop melody vibes on top of those loud guitars, Duran Duran throughout especially. Chino's doing his best Simon Le Bon this album. It's brilliant.
* Genesis and Ohms were definitely the best choices for singles - Ohms eases you in with a bit of upbeat excitement, Genesis is like a half and half that gives you more of a feel of the album as it gets more of that heavy guitar tone. Then the rest of the album is like BAM!
I can't say what I liked the best, all of the tracks made me stop and listen and had moments that made me think wow. The sound feels nostalgic but really fresh and new all at the same time. I think it's gonna be an absolute beaut once it's sunk in. Deftones albums always need that time to work right into your soul but once it's there it never leaves.
Hitting that play button again and cranking the volume up!
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 23, 2020, 12:28 PM
Where to fucking begin? This is not a review cause Im just doing my second listening of the entire record, but my god, for now I feel pretty safe to say this is everything I always wanted Deftones to be since White Pony. Keep in mind: this is not White Pony 2.0, but to me it feels like the potential I felt in this band back then REAALLLLLY comes to fruition on this album. It's hard for me to explain why that is exactly. Part of it is that the songs sound so unconventional structure- and soundwise, just like on WP. And part of it is that the whole thing feels so layered, like when you listen for the first few times you just HEAR that theres so much going on and you know youll have countless listenings ahead of you to just get a grasp on everything there. Like after a thousands of times, it sometimes still feels like you're finding new stuff on WP, right? Thats what this feels like to me.
Also a lot of stuff reminded me of ATF. Some truly inspiring, hard riffs and Chino's voice is sooooo butterly smooth. I also love that each member truly shines here. Abe's drums really pop, Frank has never been more present on the production AND song structure and Sergio really shows what he can do here. And Stef of course, he really fucking shines on this record, my god!
The album is expertly paced and just long enough. After the closing track I instantly want to hear it again.
There are truly some melodies here that touch me on an emotional level. I mean as you can read above Im a huge White Pony fan, but Im also still in love with Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan. However, those records feel a bit 'simpler' to me. Dont get me wrong, I love how they make Deftones feel energized again and I think they're both stone cold modern classics, but Ohms just has this extra special thing that I really can't explain. More layers, I guess? More difficult to graps structures and melodies?
I don't want to hype myself and yall up too much cause I remember being pretty fine with Gore as well on first listen, but that didnt take very long. But I have such a good feeling about this one. It might become one of my favorites. Might. We will see. For now, this is really an interesting release and its even more mindblowning knowing this is the 9th release of the band. Jesus, how do they do it?
I couldnt say it better. I think we all, as fans, know their potential, but this time I think they trully pulled it off (IMO). Even more than WP (which is not even my fav record, btw).
This record is so different, so weirdly different. BUT good. Im loving the fact you can hear how Frank's hand are all over it, and its amazing.
ATF and S/T still hold a very special place in my heart, but man... this one might join them.
I fell in love with Deftones after listening to Adrenaline. ATF was like those first months when you are in a new relationship and everything is great! It reinforced those feelings. Created a bond! Same with WP. S/T showed me a side of them I wasnt expecting. So deep and dark... first 4 are still my fav from their discography.
Ohms? Im speechless... and that never happened before. Ever.
I thought I was overreacting a little after the first couple times, but now? I dont know if I am...
I love the fact there is no consensus on the best song yet everyone agrees it's really good. Cant wait to hear it!
Urantia has snare hits that sound like gun shots, loving the loud big sound of the album
* The bass line and the guitar riff in ceremony are incredible !
* The way of singing of Chino in the chorus of Error remembers me Depeche Mode a bit.
* Radiant City : acidulous / stromboscopic song
* Pompeji : Hitchcockian song
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality. Sounds good but a little sloshy on the high end. I've reserved myself to the one listen for this reason.
Facts. Official release will sound even better then 8)
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 11:10 AM
I caved.
On first listen I think Genesis might be the least good song on it. Which says something.
It's just an illusion. The whole thing in order is solid. I get what you mean though. I don;t pay any attention to the reviews....I wasn't expecting this shit though. It just so damn engaging.
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 23, 2020, 01:14 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality. Sounds good but a little sloshy on the high end. I've reserved myself to the one listen for this reason.
Facts. Official release will sound even better then 8)
True, I want to hear that low and high end less compressed. Abe goes off on some of these tracks.
He's definitely smackin' the tubs on this bad boy.
Those high hats on this 'This Link is Dead' will sound fucking awesome on the legit version. That's just one small example of what will pop way harder. I think even to the untrained ear this material has been treated well by TD. He's snuck in some raw style tonal qualities that are just...sick..
so how is everyones morning going? feeling better now?
V
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:28 PM
so how is everyones morning going? feeling better now?
Ves fell asleep like a vampire holding his dual wielding ban hammers. He's long hauling it too. What a champion. Have to give him props for that.
What a day. My wife gave birth to our daughter and I get home to this news. :-)
Spell of Mathematics stood out on first listen. Other than that I'll keep my initial reaction to myself. I'll need several listens to formulate my thoughts.
Can't wait for the vinyl to get here. I saw info about the deliveries being delayed in Canada, same for the states?
TSOM is never leaving my rotation, holy shit what a track! I'm in love.
My biggest disappointment with this album is Pompeji... Was not worth the hype. I adore the verses and the outro but the chorus is forgettable and the heavy parts feel forced and undercut the brilliant atmosphere the song had going.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:35 PM
What a day. My wife gave birth to our daughter and I get home to this news. :-)
Spell of Mathematics stood out on first listen. Other than that I'll keep my initial reaction to myself. I'll need several listens to formulate my thoughts.
Can't wait for the vinyl to get here. I saw info about the deliveries being delayed in Canada, same for the states?
Congrats on the baby.
Gold vinyl delayed in the UK. Had an email from Banquet.
Surprisingly the Kerrang review has the only slight piece negativity I've seen in any of the reviews (they still gave it 4/5):
QuoteWith a band so universally adored as Deftones are it's almost an act of sacrilege to award their efforts with anything less than a perfect score, but while Ohms delivers on all expected fronts, it's in the unexpected where things fall just that little bit short. The unerring familiarity, the lack of surprise, and the near-flawless balance struck between all aspects of the band's appeal arguably works against it. You've seen them pull off all of these tricks before. But oh what tricks.
https://www.kerrang.com/reviews/album-review-deftones-ohms/
I must say from my only listen, I don't know how you can fail to spot new elements in this.
I had multiple out of body experiences listening to this album while my gf drove us up a mountain high af. And I'm not just talking about the mountain
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:35 PM
What a day. My wife gave birth to our daughter and I get home to this news. :-)
Spell of Mathematics stood out on first listen. Other than that I'll keep my initial reaction to myself. I'll need several listens to formulate my thoughts.
Can't wait for the vinyl to get here. I saw info about the deliveries being delayed in Canada, same for the states?
By almost whole month or something ?? :( I just saw that one guy say it was OCT 21st or something. So no idea TBH. Might just be an isolated incident.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:46 PM
Surprisingly the Kerrang review has the only slight piece negativity I've seen in any of the reviews (they still gave it 4/5):
QuoteWith a band so universally adored as Deftones are it's almost an act of sacrilege to award their efforts with anything less than a perfect score, but while Ohms delivers on all expected fronts, it's in the unexpected where things fall just that little bit short. The unerring familiarity, the lack of surprise, and the near-flawless balance struck between all aspects of the band's appeal arguably works against it. You've seen them pull off all of these tricks before. But oh what tricks.
https://www.kerrang.com/reviews/album-review-deftones-ohms/
I must say from my only listen, I don't know how you can fail to spot new elements in this.
Thats one of the things I loved the most on it. So many things Im not used to...
Oh well, what can you do?
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:46 PM
Surprisingly the Kerrang review has the only slight piece negativity I've seen in any of the reviews (they still gave it 4/5):
QuoteWith a band so universally adored as Deftones are it's almost an act of sacrilege to award their efforts with anything less than a perfect score, but while Ohms delivers on all expected fronts, it's in the unexpected where things fall just that little bit short. The unerring familiarity, the lack of surprise, and the near-flawless balance struck between all aspects of the band's appeal arguably works against it. You've seen them pull off all of these tricks before. But oh what tricks.
https://www.kerrang.com/reviews/album-review-deftones-ohms/
I must say from my only listen, I don't know how you can fail to spot new elements in this.
Trust me.... never listen to one review. Listen to your own ears + the people.
I agree with what you said though.
I've seen bands read a review of their album and not let that shit go for years :) It's just one persons opinion.. yet eats at them.
It could be one out of 20 or so. The good reviews go out the window when a bad one comes in.... even though it shouldn't matter. Yet for some reason ..... yeh...
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 23, 2020, 01:51 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:46 PM
Surprisingly the Kerrang review has the only slight piece negativity I've seen in any of the reviews (they still gave it 4/5):
QuoteWith a band so universally adored as Deftones are it's almost an act of sacrilege to award their efforts with anything less than a perfect score, but while Ohms delivers on all expected fronts, it's in the unexpected where things fall just that little bit short. The unerring familiarity, the lack of surprise, and the near-flawless balance struck between all aspects of the band's appeal arguably works against it. You've seen them pull off all of these tricks before. But oh what tricks.
https://www.kerrang.com/reviews/album-review-deftones-ohms/
I must say from my only listen, I don't know how you can fail to spot new elements in this.
Trust me.... never listen to one review. Listen to your own ears + the people. I agree with what you said though.
I've seen bands read a review of their album and not let that shit go for years :) It's just one persons review.
I could be one out of 20 or so. The good reviews go out the window when a bad one comes in.... even though it shouldn't matter :)
Trust me I never pay much heed to reviews either.
Ceremony sounds like a possible single. So damn catchy
Goddamn TSOM is such a great track. The last two and a half minutes - fucking amazing. what a groove. This is immediately in my top ten favorite Deftones songs ever. (i don't say this lightly. i'm doing everything i can you find fault in this album lol)
I don't get this love for TSOM, it's good, but I don't get it, man. There are much better tracks in my opinion.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:35 PM
What a day. My wife gave birth to our daughter and I get home to this news. :-)
Spell of Mathematics stood out on first listen. Other than that I'll keep my initial reaction to myself. I'll need several listens to formulate my thoughts.
Can't wait for the vinyl to get here. I saw info about the deliveries being delayed in Canada, same for the states?
Congratulations, man!
Error is gorgeous . That ending is prestige. Wow
I've followed this band since the beginning. 13 concerts (15 including Team Sleep), anticipating every album like Christmas morning...and this is the first time I am even thinking of caving on getting a leak. Trying to resist...but these descriptions are KILLING me. (Also doesn't help that I haven't downloaded anything I wasn't supposed to since the Limewire days and the leak/dowenlaod environment out there is vert strange and different to me now...)
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality. Sounds good but a little sloshy on the high end. I've reserved myself to the one listen for this reason.
I'll just wait...anyway it's least than 2 days.
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:28 PM
so how is everyones morning going? feeling better now?
Well actually I just heard that a dear friend of mine has cancer and it cant be cured. So the new Tones record comes at the best time possible for me to sink my teeth in. Thanks for asking.
Edit: congrats to B_S_79 on the baby! This is the circle of life folks.
This album fucking rocks. So much ear candy.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 23, 2020, 02:06 PM
I don't get this love for TSOM, it's good, but I don't get it, man. There are much better tracks in my opinion.
Stood out on first listen. I like the vibe of it. The guitar work sounds a bit different for a Deftones track. I want to take the last three minutes of the song and loop it and take a long drive with the windows down. Haha.
To each his own.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 23, 2020, 02:09 PM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:35 PM
What a day. My wife gave birth to our daughter and I get home to this news. :-)
Spell of Mathematics stood out on first listen. Other than that I'll keep my initial reaction to myself. I'll need several listens to formulate my thoughts.
Can't wait for the vinyl to get here. I saw info about the deliveries being delayed in Canada, same for the states?
Congratulations, man!
Many thanks!
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 23, 2020, 02:16 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:28 PM
so how is everyones morning going? feeling better now?
Well actually I just heard that a dear friend of mine has cancer and it cant be cured. So the new Tones record comes at the best time possible for me to sink my teeth in. Thanks for asking.
Edit: congrats to B_S_79 on the baby! This is the circle of life folks.
So fucking sorry to hear that, man. I'll be thinking of you and your friend today.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 23, 2020, 01:35 PM
What a day. My wife gave birth to our daughter and I get home to this news. :-)
Spell of Mathematics stood out on first listen. Other than that I'll keep my initial reaction to myself. I'll need several listens to formulate my thoughts.
Can't wait for the vinyl to get here. I saw info about the deliveries being delayed in Canada, same for the states?
enjoy the sleep and life you had
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 02:27 PM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 23, 2020, 02:16 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 01:28 PM
so how is everyones morning going? feeling better now?
Well actually I just heard that a dear friend of mine has cancer and it cant be cured. So the new Tones record comes at the best time possible for me to sink my teeth in. Thanks for asking.
Edit: congrats to B_S_79 on the baby! This is the circle of life folks.
So fucking sorry to hear that, man. I'll be thinking of you and your friend today.
THanks man, already regret saying it because it has nothing to do with this topic, but I guess it'll be forever linked to this record for me now.
But again, i want to repeat, WHAT a record it is. Ive listened to it one time fully now and I think tonight Ill take a second spin, perhaps tomorrow one more and then Friday its one continuous listening party for me lol, the album will soon find a place in my endless Deftones rotation that Ive been keeping up since I was 16 with some small down periods.
I guess you could say Deftones are truly the soundtrack of my life. It has to be after 20 fucking years. And with another fantastic album, this won't change anymore.
Im just happy to live this one life I have in the same time as the Deftones exist. How lucky to have that.
This is our second. The life i once had is long gone, but the wife understands i will never stop going to concerts. i just can't sleep in the day after like i used to. sleeping is a luxury i will never have again. haha.
Can't wait until my official copy is sent to me. Need to listen lots more.
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality.
Knew it. Lossy WMA is not Spotify quality like someone said.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:32 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality.
Knew it. Lossy WMA is not Spotify quality like someone said.
i have really good audio setup in my truck and the WMA sounds perfect
hey. good morning Ves!
Uhhhh, yeah I don't know about this album.
There's some cool stuff going on with pretty much every song, but I feel like they're leaning too heavily on the unorthodox song structures/left-field transitions in an attempt to keep the songs interesting. Just makes a lot of songs feel unnecessarily stilted or undeveloped since they don't end in a satisfying way.
Seems like Steph just wants to play bass at this point. Either him or Chino needs to truly start taking over lead guitar duties. If they want to have these super simple two note low-end riffs, they need to put something more interesting over them with the lead guitar or just write better riffs (there were times when I felt like I was listening to Korn). I remember feeling like Rubicon's verse riff had the same problem. They're basically pulling a Hum/Failure with that simple low end drive, without the interesting guitar leads on top. A lot of songs could've benefited from a solo as well.
Sergio and Abe are definitely the highlights here. Chino and Frank bring a heavy 80s vibe which is cool, but this might be some of his worst lyrics/delivery, and Frank feels like he's there to try and spice up boring Steph riffs with synths that ultimately aren't interesting enough to recover it. Steph either needs to full on channel Meshuggah and write some really complex riffs if he's going to rely on that low end or switch back to at least a 7-string because this is getting a little tired. Best parts of his were the fast paced metal riffs that almost could've been on Adrenaline. More of that and less 0-2 chugga please.
Really wish they'd have written at least one full on Deftones ballad a la Beauty School or Entombed. It's not as cohesive of an album as we were led to believe either. Yeah, the album flows unlike say SNW and has a vibe that is super consistent, but KNY I think still works better track to track with its transitions. KNY had much better intros, outros, and segues in my opinion. In the end, the sameness of Ohms might work against it with it being difficult to really tell songs apart from each other very well.
I wish the outro on "Pompeji" was longer
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:32 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM
By the way, this leak is definitely not quite optimal quality.
Knew it. Lossy WMA is not Spotify quality like someone said.
Ves, you can listen back on the BBC Sounds app or on the bbc 6 music website. I got a shout out from Mary Anne Hobbs also!
I didn't get the WMAs, but I didn't get a link from anyone. I had to kind of forge my own adventure and got 192kbps mp3s
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 23, 2020, 02:38 PM
Uhhhh, yeah I don't know about this album.
There's some cool stuff going on with pretty much every song, but I feel like they're leaning too heavily on the unorthodox song structures/left-field transitions in an attempt to keep the songs interesting. Just makes a lot of songs feel unnecessarily stilted or undeveloped since they don't end in a satisfying way.
Seems like Steph just wants to play bass at this point. Either him or Chino needs to truly start taking over lead guitar duties. If they want to have these super simple two note low-end riffs, they need to put something more interesting over them with the lead guitar or just write better riffs (there were times when I felt like I was listening to Korn). I remember feeling like Rubicon's verse riff had the same problem. They're basically pulling a Hum/Failure with that simple low end drive, without the interesting guitar leads on top. A lot of songs could've benefited from a solo as well.
Sergio and Abe are definitely the highlights here. Chino and Frank bring a heavy 80s vibe which is cool, but this might be some of his worst lyrics/delivery, and Frank feels like he's there to try and spice up boring Steph riffs with synths that ultimately aren't interesting enough to recover it. Steph either needs to full on channel Meshuggah and write some really complex riffs if he's going to rely on that low end or switch back to at least a 7-string because this is getting a little tired. Best parts of his were the fast paced metal riffs that almost could've been on Adrenaline. More of that and less 0-2 chugga please.
Really wish they'd have written at least one full on Deftones ballad a la Beauty School or Entombed. It's not as cohesive of an album as we were led to believe either. Yeah, the album flows unlike say SNW and has a vibe that is super consistent, but KNY I think still works better track to track with its transitions. KNY had much better intros, outros, and segues in my opinion. In the end, the sameness of Ohms might work against it with it being difficult to really tell songs apart from each other very well.
Its refreshing to read a different take to be honest so no problems from me. Question: dont you expect the songs blurring in each other to stop once you get to know the record better? I remember when i first heard WP all songs sounded alike to me.
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 23, 2020, 02:40 PM
I didn't get the WMAs, but I didn't get a link from anyone. I had to kind of forge my own adventure and got 192kbps mp3s
Fair odds this was the same leak, converted.
@rainnyx4 I agree with almost everything you said there to a degree
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 23, 2020, 02:44 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 23, 2020, 02:38 PM
Uhhhh, yeah I don't know about this album.
There's some cool stuff going on with pretty much every song, but I feel like they're leaning too heavily on the unorthodox song structures/left-field transitions in an attempt to keep the songs interesting. Just makes a lot of songs feel unnecessarily stilted or undeveloped since they don't end in a satisfying way.
Seems like Steph just wants to play bass at this point. Either him or Chino needs to truly start taking over lead guitar duties. If they want to have these super simple two note low-end riffs, they need to put something more interesting over them with the lead guitar or just write better riffs (there were times when I felt like I was listening to Korn). I remember feeling like Rubicon's verse riff had the same problem. They're basically pulling a Hum/Failure with that simple low end drive, without the interesting guitar leads on top. A lot of songs could've benefited from a solo as well.
Sergio and Abe are definitely the highlights here. Chino and Frank bring a heavy 80s vibe which is cool, but this might be some of his worst lyrics/delivery, and Frank feels like he's there to try and spice up boring Steph riffs with synths that ultimately aren't interesting enough to recover it. Steph either needs to full on channel Meshuggah and write some really complex riffs if he's going to rely on that low end or switch back to at least a 7-string because this is getting a little tired. Best parts of his were the fast paced metal riffs that almost could've been on Adrenaline. More of that and less 0-2 chugga please.
Really wish they'd have written at least one full on Deftones ballad a la Beauty School or Entombed. It's not as cohesive of an album as we were led to believe either. Yeah, the album flows unlike say SNW and has a vibe that is super consistent, but KNY I think still works better track to track with its transitions. KNY had much better intros, outros, and segues in my opinion. In the end, the sameness of Ohms might work against it with it being difficult to really tell songs apart from each other very well.
Its refreshing to read a different take to be honest so no problems from me. Question: dont you expect the songs blurring in each other to stop once you get to know the record better? I remember when i first heard WP all songs sounded alike to me.
For me this is a grower album also, first 2 listens and I really enjoyed it, but I know it will get better over time. I wasn't into Diamond Eyes at first, but that grew on me over a 5 year period
@Divided_Spirit My English has grown fairly decent over the years.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:48 PM
@Divided_Spirit My English has grown fairly decent over the years.
lmao
thats fucked up. my recipe was deleted. someone would have wanted that info
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 23, 2020, 02:44 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 23, 2020, 02:38 PM
Uhhhh, yeah I don't know about this album.
There's some cool stuff going on with pretty much every song, but I feel like they're leaning too heavily on the unorthodox song structures/left-field transitions in an attempt to keep the songs interesting. Just makes a lot of songs feel unnecessarily stilted or undeveloped since they don't end in a satisfying way.
Seems like Steph just wants to play bass at this point. Either him or Chino needs to truly start taking over lead guitar duties. If they want to have these super simple two note low-end riffs, they need to put something more interesting over them with the lead guitar or just write better riffs (there were times when I felt like I was listening to Korn). I remember feeling like Rubicon's verse riff had the same problem. They're basically pulling a Hum/Failure with that simple low end drive, without the interesting guitar leads on top. A lot of songs could've benefited from a solo as well.
Sergio and Abe are definitely the highlights here. Chino and Frank bring a heavy 80s vibe which is cool, but this might be some of his worst lyrics/delivery, and Frank feels like he's there to try and spice up boring Steph riffs with synths that ultimately aren't interesting enough to recover it. Steph either needs to full on channel Meshuggah and write some really complex riffs if he's going to rely on that low end or switch back to at least a 7-string because this is getting a little tired. Best parts of his were the fast paced metal riffs that almost could've been on Adrenaline. More of that and less 0-2 chugga please.
Really wish they'd have written at least one full on Deftones ballad a la Beauty School or Entombed. It's not as cohesive of an album as we were led to believe either. Yeah, the album flows unlike say SNW and has a vibe that is super consistent, but KNY I think still works better track to track with its transitions. KNY had much better intros, outros, and segues in my opinion. In the end, the sameness of Ohms might work against it with it being difficult to really tell songs apart from each other very well.
Its refreshing to read a different take to be honest so no problems from me. Question: dont you expect the songs blurring in each other to stop once you get to know the record better? I remember when i first heard WP all songs sounded alike to me.
I don't think I've ever had this problem with Deftones records before. Even records that I'm not a big fan of (S/T and Gore) I could still easily pick the songs apart in my head. I think a major issue with this album are the choruses having really similar paces and vibes. The hooks all feel so similar it's making it difficult to remember which songs have which melodies. Steph's simple low-end riffs doesn't make it any easier because after you've heard one, you feel like you've heard them all.
After hearing Genesis I was worried this band had gone the way of Tool, releasing the same album over and over again to less and less dramatic effect. I only listened to FI a few times, got bored, and can't remember a single thing from it.
I'm on Pompeji so far, honestly I do somewhat think that there are lots of sections throughout this album (so far!) that sound like they are about to explode magnificently, but then they just transition into a smooth chorus. Overall though, that's the only major downside I've found with this album. Oh, and I found the seagulls!
For me this is a grower album also, first 2 listens and I really enjoyed it, but I know it will get better over time. I wasn't into Diamond Eyes at first, but that grew on me over a 5 year period
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I have a feeling I'll be the same (though I have yet to hear it). I did NOT like Ohms (the single) at all the I heard it. Took 3-4 listens for me to appreciate it and nowI love it. And I did not like KNY at all. Like, I was mad-levels of disappointed in that album. 3 years later, I found myself loving it.
Ok, just heard This Link Is Dead. Wow. This song actually fulfills the buildup with great explosive passages and awesome screaming. Love this one.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
I'm not sure what the crack is with this page in different countries but it's here for me:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mq7q
Or check BBC Sounds if that's worldwide?
Starts 1hr 30 mins in and lasts for 30 mins. Great interview! Highlights: Chino has been using the Houseparty app during lockdown (!), he doesn't know where the eyes on the album art are from, and Black Stallion is complete and has a different artists for each song, may do some kind of official announcement on the list of collaborators when they announce the release.
Gold vinyl has shipped from Banquet (UK)
theres a lot of honey in this album
I described the album as the band bringing every style and idea they have ever brought to the table and evolved and refined them to a masterful level that only a band with as much experience and chemistry as Deftones could achieve.
Roughly 20 hours before it officially drops in NZ.
anyone getting a "We will email you when we have an estimated delivery date" message from amazon about the album? they still haven't figured anything out about the shippinh this close to release date? no way i'm getting it on the 25th now. maybe i should cancel it and get one from best buy real quick?
I just finished my first listen through of the whole album. Very satisfying. So far I love it. I don't think there's a bad song on the album. However, I don't know that I could pick a standout yet. I need more time with it. It does seem to be missing a slower, moodier song akin to Sextap/Anniversary/Digital Bath/etc. Maybe that's it's biggest drawback. But my initial impressions are way better than they were on Gore.
If I were pressed to criticize it, I'd say it feels almost incomplete. It needed one or two more songs to step into a less hard-hitting zone to round out the whole album. But that's a minor gripe I suppose. My opinion might change as I get more familiar with the songs, because on my first listen through I was pretty blown away by all 10 tracks.
I will say that Ohms as a closer is really satisfying. That song has grown on me quite a bit, and now in the context of the album, I can see that it both fits and is necessary because it's different from the other tracks in significant ways.
Urantia, Error and TLID are my standout favorites..so far
Quote from: NovaHands on Sep 23, 2020, 03:34 PM
I will say that Ohms as a closer is really satisfying. That song has grown on me quite a bit, and now in the context of the album, I can see that it both fits and is necessary because it's different from the other tracks in significant ways.
Agreed
TLID and Headless are my favorite tracks after 1 playthrough. Ceremony is probably the only track that didn't stand out to me at all.
Shout out to everyone waiting patiently. You're the true champions.
My God I need it lyrics to Error
Sergio on this thing though. Excellent.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:43 PM
Shout to everyone waiting patiently. You're the true champions.
I really wish I had you guys self control. But I learn long ago that I'm weak when it comes to Deftones. And No nut november.
Yeah, yeah, TMI, but hey, not like I could get any weirder.
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Quote from: E-Money on Sep 23, 2020, 03:44 PM
My God I need it lyrics to Error
https://genius.com/albums/Deftones/Ohms
I think the closest to the slow sexy simmer song (say that 5x as fast) would be Pompeji even though there are a lot of heavy parts.
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 03:37 PM
Urantia, Error and TLID are my standout favorites..so far
Yeah I think Urantia might have been my favorite if I had to pick one.
I just like the whole thing. But if you had to twist my arm... I like This Link is Dead into Radiant City at the moment.
I almost get a Refused - 'the shape of punk to come vibe' through those two tracks.... I don't just mean the "wooo's" in both tracks either. haha.
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 03:06 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album ‘Ohms’
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project ‘Black Stallion’
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
I'm not sure what the crack is with this page in different countries but it's here for me:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mq7q
Or check BBC Sounds if that's worldwide?
Starts 1hr 30 mins in and lasts for 30 mins. Great interview! Highlights: Chino has been using the Houseparty app during lockdown (!), he doesn't know where the eyes on the album art are from, and Black Stallion is complete and has a different artists for each song, may do some kind of official announcement on the list of collaborators when they announce the release.
i kinda hope the black stallion record is a white pony re-release with black stallion tacked on. just to give WP the extra sales
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 03:53 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 03:06 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
I'm not sure what the crack is with this page in different countries but it's here for me:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mq7q
Or check BBC Sounds if that's worldwide?
Starts 1hr 30 mins in and lasts for 30 mins. Great interview! Highlights: Chino has been using the Houseparty app during lockdown (!), he doesn't know where the eyes on the album art are from, and Black Stallion is complete and has a different artists for each song, may do some kind of official announcement on the list of collaborators when they announce the release.
i kinda hope the black stallion record is a white pony re-release with black stallion tacked on. just to give WP the extra sales
It most likely will be. They were talking 20th anniversary deluxe edition after all.
If they could add Pink Maggit live in Petaluma 05.24.2000 that'd be perfect...
Quote from: Far away on Sep 23, 2020, 03:48 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:43 PM
Shout to everyone waiting patiently. You're the true champions.
I really wish I had you guys self control. But I learn long ago that I'm weak when it comes to Deftones. And No nut november.
Yeah, yeah, TMI, but hey, not like I could get any weirder.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f203bbd60006dedaaef4c0fae63c7fdd/tenor.gif)
i'm weak when it comes to them to. i don't wanna try waiting then end up dying somehow before i heard it, lol. could happen, so i listen right when i can
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 23, 2020, 11:50 AM
I really don't get hits love for Spell, I think it's the weakest song.
This. I still enjoy it but nowhere near the hype. But I felt the same about Rubicon, people were raving about that lol.
Pompeji wasn't at all what I was expecting so it didn't wow me at first, but definitely grown on me a lot. To be honest most of my favourites seem to be the ones reviewers didn't give as much praise to. Ceremony and Urantia are amazing. And it's funny that This Link is Dead has got Chino's brilliant screams on the album but the music is really not as heavy as you'd expect.
Also shoutout to Deftones for giving me the motivation to exercise for the first time in months! Got the exercise bike out at last and stayed on it for the duration of the album. Made it so much more enjoyable.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:54 PM
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Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
I'm not sure what the crack is with this page in different countries but it's here for me:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mq7q
Or check BBC Sounds if that's worldwide?
Starts 1hr 30 mins in and lasts for 30 mins. Great interview! Highlights: Chino has been using the Houseparty app during lockdown (!), he doesn't know where the eyes on the album art are from, and Black Stallion is complete and has a different artists for each song, may do some kind of official announcement on the list of collaborators when they announce the release.
i kinda hope the black stallion record is a white pony re-release with black stallion tacked on. just to give WP the extra sales
It most likely will be. They were talking 20th anniversary deluxe edition after all.
If they could add Pink Maggit live in Petaluma 05.24.2000 that'd be perfect...
hopefully leave off BTS, and do the boy's republic version
For those have you that have listened to the album, I know it's just first impressions right now, but what few songs would you choose for them to play live? For me it'd be Ceremony, Urantia, Pompeji and This Link is Dead.
Can someone quote the post talking about what they thought This Link Is Dead was about? It was interesting but I can't find it.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:54 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 03:53 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 03:06 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
I'm not sure what the crack is with this page in different countries but it's here for me:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mq7q
Or check BBC Sounds if that's worldwide?
Starts 1hr 30 mins in and lasts for 30 mins. Great interview! Highlights: Chino has been using the Houseparty app during lockdown (!), he doesn't know where the eyes on the album art are from, and Black Stallion is complete and has a different artists for each song, may do some kind of official announcement on the list of collaborators when they announce the release.
i kinda hope the black stallion record is a white pony re-release with black stallion tacked on. just to give WP the extra sales
It most likely will be. They were talking 20th anniversary deluxe edition after all.
If they could add Pink Maggit live in Petaluma 05.24.2000 that'd be perfect...
And The Boys Republic should be added too
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 03:59 PM
For those have you that have listened to the album, I know it's just first impressions right now, but what few songs would you choose for them to play live? For me it'd be Ceremony, Urantia, Pompeji and This Link is Dead.
Genesis - Set opener for sure
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:43 PM
Shout to everyone waiting patiently. You're the true champions.
Eh, but it's not for a lack of trying...
Quote from: Weestin on Sep 23, 2020, 03:50 PM
I think the closest to the slow sexy simmer song (say that 5x as fast) would be Pompeji even though there are a lot of heavy parts.
No slow, sexy, simmer song and the final track isn't even remotely a standard Deftones closer either.
This is a long way away from being a standard, very good Deftones album. It's not White Pony level of groundbreaking but that's a sky high comparison.
If they don't put The Boy's Republic on the reissue, I'm going to pout in my room all day.
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Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 23, 2020, 11:50 AM
I really don't get hits love for Spell, I think it's the weakest song.
Pompeji wasn't at all what I was expecting so it didn't wow me at first, but definitely grown on me a lot. To be honest most of my favourites seem to be the ones reviewers didn't give as much praise to.
I'm like this. Some of the deeper cuts are my favorites, like Combat from SNW and Gauze from KNY.
NME article:
https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778
I get some Romantic Dreams vibes from Ceremony
Haven't listened to the album yet, only the singles. So my question is; do any of the songs have shoegaze elements?
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 04:00 PM
Can someone quote the post talking about what they thought This Link Is Dead was about? It was interesting but I can't find it.
pretty much sums it up here https://genius.com/albums/Deftones/Ohms
fighting all the time with his girl (one of them)
Quote from: Kiss_me on Sep 23, 2020, 04:19 PM
Haven't listened to the album yet, only the singles. So my question is; do any of the songs have shoegaze elements?
Pompeji and Headless, for sure. Maybe parts of Error?
Amazing work from the whole band as well as Terry. The album is so cohesive, but super unique. Definite evolution from anything they have ever done. I can't wait to put on the headphones for this album. I'm so proud of them this record is top shelf. I wasn't a huge fan of Gore, but it definitely wasn't my favorite work from them. This album is perfect in every way for me. It is great from start to finish for me.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 03:59 PM
For those have you that have listened to the album, I know it's just first impressions right now, but what few songs would you choose for them to play live? For me it'd be Ceremony, Urantia, Pompeji and This Link is Dead.
Frank's input on Radiant City will sound massive live.
Title track has to be played live.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:59 AM
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
I haven't heard it yet
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The verse of Error almost sounds like Garbage (the band). Even Chino's voice!
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 04:52 PM
The verse of Error almost sounds like Garbage
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Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 04:52 PM
(the band).
(https://pics.me.me/thumb_i1-12-0-314-452-901-4ws0e-4m-5380-lily-lu-dog-51031556.png)
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Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 04:52 PM
The verse of Error almost sounds like Garbage
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTkQtHfqTKZf-ROZMuERYMBJU3laMaWuUzghw&usqp=CAU)
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 04:52 PM
(the band).
(https://pics.me.me/thumb_i1-12-0-314-452-901-4ws0e-4m-5380-lily-lu-dog-51031556.png)
haha
"Deftones has leaked -- however, at the request of a significant member of the fan community, ************ has decided not to aid in its spread until Thursday morning EDT. What you do with that is up to you, but please don't be asking us for links or publicly aid others in finding it on this website."
haha I wonder who that could have been?...
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
Quote from: Iwazaru on Sep 23, 2020, 05:01 PM
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 04:52 PM
The verse of Error almost sounds like Garbage
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTkQtHfqTKZf-ROZMuERYMBJU3laMaWuUzghw&usqp=CAU)
Quote from: knifeprty on Sep 23, 2020, 04:52 PM
(the band).
(https://pics.me.me/thumb_i1-12-0-314-452-901-4ws0e-4m-5380-lily-lu-dog-51031556.png)
Hahaha 10/10 good one
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
Oh, I got it now! Coming baaaaaaackkk......arouuuuuuuuund the furr...
Quote from: Draken on Sep 23, 2020, 04:49 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:59 AM
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
I haven't heard it yet
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GOD BLESS YOU ALL FOR THE OHMS YOU SAVED!!!!
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 03:55 PM
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:43 PM
Shout to everyone waiting patiently. You're the true champions.
I really wish I had you guys self control. But I learn long ago that I'm weak when it comes to Deftones. And No nut november.
Yeah, yeah, TMI, but hey, not like I could get any weirder.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f203bbd60006dedaaef4c0fae63c7fdd/tenor.gif)
i'm weak when it comes to them to. i don't wanna try waiting then end up dying somehow before i heard it, lol. could happen, so i listen right when i can
lmao
Lets hope you stay alive.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
Oh, I got it now! Coming baaaaaaackkk......arouuuuuuuuund the furr...
WGTB? I get that feeling
I cant believe i still havent found this. "Here, take this survey for a password and subscribe for 6months!"... :-[
Ok, so at first Urantia was my favorite, then it was TLID, now it's Radiant City...it keeps changing, I didn't feel that with Gore at all. I couldn't pick a favorite from that album, because I didn't really like any of the songs. Now I can't pick a favorite because most songs are good. I'm not hyped, just being realistic.
The spell of mathematics is just EPIC. That guitar is just nasty! So groovy... my God!
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 23, 2020, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 23, 2020, 04:49 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:59 AM
Has the entire forum heard this fucking thing except 976-EVIL and me ;D
I haven't heard it yet
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GOD BLESS YOU ALL FOR THE OHMS YOU SAVED!!!!
lol
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 05:41 PM
I cant believe i still havent found this. "Here, take this survey for a password and subscribe for 6months!"... :-[
Same. What doo doo.
I sort of hate all of you at this point. But that's just overwhelming jealousy talking.
I've only listen to it once but this link is dead did absolutely nothing for me. I was actually really bummed. Kind of felt the same way with Pompeji ... I think I just had to high of hopes for both of them.
It's a great record and I'm sure it will grow on me even more. It's definitely Stephen's record. Which I'm happy for him and I'm really glad that he got to showcase his talent because he is incredibly gifted and there's no doubt about it. For someone that is really not that experimental with the guitar he really shines on this record. His groove elements are so cool and the way he transitions it's just fantastic. But I really do miss Chino playing on top of him. In my opinion their best songs are them going back-and-forth on the guitar together like digital bath and Change ..
I love the start the the record. Ceremony and Urantia are incredible. The second half of Error is perfect. Verses were meh..
Spell lived up to all the hype and I knew it would. Love the warm bass in that one. Sergio really shines this time around..
Radiant city and headless also sounded great. So we'll see how this record sinks in. There's too much going on for one listen to rank it or anything. All I know is that this link is that does absolutely nothing for me. I was very disappointed. I hope it grows on me.
So glad they are back!!
18 hours before it drops in NZ. Just wait...
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
Oh, I got it now! Coming baaaaaaackkk......arouuuuuuuuund the furr...
WGTB? I get that feeling
Don't really get a WGTB vibe from it. The "I'm filled up with true hatred" part sounds ATF-ish to me, like the Lotion chorus or the "coming back...arouuuuuund the fur" bit on the title track. It also reminds me a bit of Team Sleep's Iceache (the riffs) and Appollonia (the synth parts).
That being said, I don't think it's my favorite track. It's good but I'm digging the other songs more.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
Oh, I got it now! Coming baaaaaaackkk......arouuuuuuuuund the furr...
I thought exactly this, glad I wasn't the only one.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:02 PM
18 hours before it drops in NZ. Just wait...
Wouldn't that technically be a leak? ??? ... unless you live in NZ
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 06:07 PM
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 23, 2020, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
Oh, I got it now! Coming baaaaaaackkk......arouuuuuuuuund the furr...
WGTB? I get that feeling
Don't really get a WGTB vibe from it. The "I'm filled up with true hatred" part sounds ATF-ish to me, like the Lotion chorus or the "coming back...arouuuuuund the fur" bit on the title track. It also reminds me a bit of Team Sleep's Iceache (the riffs) and Appollonia (the synth parts).
That being said, I don't think it's my favorite track. It's good but I'm digging the other songs more.
listen to it on a nice system with subs...my dick popped out
Quote from: Draken on Sep 23, 2020, 06:10 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:02 PM
18 hours before it drops in NZ. Just wait...
Wouldn't that technically be a leak? ??? ... unless you live in NZ
Point is it's coming very soon.
Quote from: DEF_RICHIE on Sep 22, 2020, 04:29 PM
Damn....NME gave it 5 stars, sure is a bold statement. I need this album now.
https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/deftones-ohms-review-2758739
Just read this and...
"This is music that would send the members of Papa Roach into an aneurysm. These are sounds that Limp Bizkit's Wes Borland – a man who has been held hostage in the aforementioned band for decades now – has been searching for all his career."
YIKES, lol...
I love Deftones but NME and the UK music press in general should really get off their dicks and stop bashing a genre that saved a major portion of their profession. Just my opinion.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:18 PM
I love Deftones but NME and the UK music press in general should really get off their dicks and stop bashing a genre that saved a major portion of their profession. Just my opinion.
I dont care about LB and PR, but I found that kinda harsh too.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
word, i wanna hear it too. Anyone here listened to it?
Chino uses the word lake a few times on this record... interesting.. from earth to lake... 🤔
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
I've been getting that feeling on every song haha.
I like it, but TLID is def one of the weakest tracks for me personally. And I adore WGTB. I don't silike TLID, but I could see it being the one track I skip if I am in a hurry to finish the album in the future.
I know, wrong thread. This will ease out the patience a little bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdUa4JjS4RI
So I don't hate anyone anymore...
...and The Spell of Mathematics is easily already in my Deftones Top 10.
...also, Pompeji is gorgeous. As an ambient fan, that ending is chilling.
Headless is so fucking dope. Prob my favorite so far. I LOVE that they took RISKS on this record.
Headless was pretty sick!!! Stoked on it for sure. Spell just slams. That song is 2020 Deftones
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 06:42 PM
I know, wrong thread. This will ease out the patience a little bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdUa4JjS4RI
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Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Sep 23, 2020, 06:46 PM
So I don't hate anyone anymore...
...and The Spell of Mathematics is easily already in my Deftones Top 10.
...also, Pompeji is gorgeous. As an ambient fan, that ending is chilling.
aww boo, you should have held out with the rest of us! ;D
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"I'm not gonna listen to the leak, I'm holding out until the official release."
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 03:55 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 23, 2020, 03:48 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 03:43 PM
Shout to everyone waiting patiently. You're the true champions.
I really wish I had you guys self control. But I learn long ago that I'm weak when it comes to Deftones. And No nut november.
Yeah, yeah, TMI, but hey, not like I could get any weirder.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f203bbd60006dedaaef4c0fae63c7fdd/tenor.gif)
i'm weak when it comes to them to. i don't wanna try waiting then end up dying somehow before i heard it, lol. could happen, so i listen right when i can
Lol. Something in my head is telling me this will be the last Deftones album I ever hear but now I'm like, what if I die before it's released? Might have to cheat.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 23, 2020, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
The chorus on This Link Is Dead reminds me so much of one of their older 90's songs but I can't pinpoint which one.
I've been getting that feeling on every song haha.
Fuuuck this sounds too good to be true. additionally, a tsunami of praise is washing over you wherever you look,this place, other sites,and in reviews.
CRAZY hype .and on top of that - rainy4 doesn't like it, and LG95 is punching his monitor and kicking in speakers bc all the songs ain't pittura infamente,all good signs. i just know i am going to love this album.
there doesn't seem to be any straight ballads here like sextape, beauty school, etc. every song has screams except Ohms (and headless if you don't wanna count his loud yelling as screams), and all the songs have heavy guitar parts. they really let Stephen get involved a lot here
Chino may b telling us this is it.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 07:39 PM
there doesn't seem to be any straight ballads here like sextape, beauty school, etc. every song has screams except Ohms (and headless if you don't wanna count his loud yelling as screams), and all the songs have heavy guitar parts. they really let Stephen get involved a lot here
anyone have an extra pair of shorts?
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 23, 2020, 07:33 PM
Fuuuck this sounds too good to be true. additionally, a tsunami of praise is washing over you wherever you look,this place, other sites,and in reviews.
CRAZY hype .and on top of that - rainy4 doesn't like it, and LG95 is punching his monitor and kicking in speakers bc all the songs ain't pittura infamente,all good signs. i just know i am going to love this album.
Massive lol.
Every song on here is better than Pittura Infamante.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 23, 2020, 07:33 PM
Fuuuck this sounds too good to be true. additionally, a tsunami of praise is washing over you wherever you look,this place, other sites,and in reviews.
CRAZY hype .and on top of that - rainy4 doesn't like it, and LG95 is punching his monitor and kicking in speakers bc all the songs ain't pittura infamente,all good signs. i just know i am going to love this album.
Massive lol.
Every song on here is better than Pittura Infamante.
yea probably. i do really like that song though. makes me think of God of war, Jason and the Argonauts, clash of the titans, etc. Greek mythology(kinda the same with xenon, i get greek mythology out of it, GOW the sisters of fate). and i just like the melodies. it's a unique tune. both are among my favs from gore
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 03:55 PM
i'm weak when it comes to them to. i don't wanna try waiting then end up dying somehow before i heard it, lol. could happen, so i listen right when i can
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it's funny you say that, I was thinking "what if I die before Friday and I never get to hear Ohms?" my life is that sad that the only thing keeping me hanging on is a Deftones record lol. ;D
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 23, 2020, 07:47 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 23, 2020, 07:33 PM
Fuuuck this sounds too good to be true. additionally, a tsunami of praise is washing over you wherever you look,this place, other sites,and in reviews.
CRAZY hype .and on top of that - rainy4 doesn't like it, and LG95 is punching his monitor and kicking in speakers bc all the songs ain't pittura infamente,all good signs. i just know i am going to love this album.
Massive lol.
Every song on here is better than Pittura Infamante.
yea probably. i do really like that song though. makes me think of God of war, Jason and the Argonauts, clash of the titans, etc. Greek mythology. and i just like the melodies. it's a unique tune
dude yes, absolutely
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 23, 2020, 07:33 PM
Fuuuck this sounds too good to be true. additionally, a tsunami of praise is washing over you wherever you look,this place, other sites,and in reviews.
CRAZY hype .and on top of that - rainy4 doesn't like it, and LG95 is punching his monitor and kicking in speakers bc all the songs ain't pittura infamente,all good signs. i just know i am going to love this album.
Massive lol.
Every song on here is better than Pittura Infamante.
definitely not the case for me but this album rules. on the first listen the heavy stuff didn't do it for me as much but by the 2nd listen everything really sounds good to me
urantia isn't just my favorite song on the album, it's one of my fave songs they've ever made easy
Quote from: ireallywish on Sep 23, 2020, 07:57 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 23, 2020, 07:33 PM
Fuuuck this sounds too good to be true. additionally, a tsunami of praise is washing over you wherever you look,this place, other sites,and in reviews.
CRAZY hype .and on top of that - rainy4 doesn't like it, and LG95 is punching his monitor and kicking in speakers bc all the songs ain't pittura infamente,all good signs. i just know i am going to love this album.
Massive lol.
Every song on here is better than Pittura Infamante.
definitely not the case for me but this album rules. on the first listen the heavy stuff didn't do it for me as much but by the 2nd listen everything really sounds good to me
urantia isn't just my favorite song on the album, it's one of my fave songs they've ever made easy
Urantia for me is a classic. Error is not getting much love but I really like this song too (didn't like it a lot at first listen). It has that old-schoolish vibe to it.
I like Error more than This Link Is Dead.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 23, 2020, 06:22 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
word, i wanna hear it too. Anyone here listened to it?
I linked it a few pages back, it's on BBC 6 music listen again, starts 1hr 30 mins into the show, hopefully the link works outside the uk:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q
Looking forward to the bbc radio 1 rock show on Sunday too!
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Quote from: Shells on Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 AM
Wheeey woke up in the UK to you all going crazy! I found it.... Not listened yet... SOOOOONNN.
Also, a reminder that Chino is on BBC 6 Music today at 12 noon UK time:
https://twitter.com/maryannehobbs/status/1308700864161480704
CHINO @chinomoreno in conversation at 12 noon on:
the new album 'Ohms'
the condition of the band in 2020
'White Pony' at 20 + the remix project 'Black Stallion'
Fucking hell, I just woke up. Anyone's got a link to that?
word, i wanna hear it too. Anyone here listened to it?
I linked it a few pages back, it's on BBC 6 music listen again, starts 1hr 30 mins into the show, hopefully the link works outside the uk:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q
Looking forward to the bbc radio 1 rock show on Sunday too!
ah shoot, my bad. Thank you! yeah the link works for me. LOL Chino's picture! ;D
After a listen Radiant feels like a letter to fans. First listen. A cpl trax do that to me tho ::).....dang its pretty good so far. Spell and pompeji kill me. Sent me to heaven
I like Headless and This Link is Dead of the 8 tracks that weren't released as the first singles.
Every song is at least pretty good. I kinda wish they would have saved Ohms for the album release - it might be my fav track on the album
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
Chino may b telling us this is it.
I certainly get that sense from this record. The lyrics in TLID. Going full circle with hardly any Chino guitar parts. If that is indeed the case, they'll defo be going out on a high.
So abe teased Urantia. With frank. Right?
I just came to say, The Spell of Mathematics has to be the best Deftones song since Diamond Eyes. That is all!
Radiant City's chorus has been stuck in my head all day.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 08:16 PM
So abe teased Urantia. With frank. Right?
Yes. That riff stayed with me for months and I instantly recognized it.
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
Chino may b telling us this is it.
I certainly get that sense from this record. The lyrics in TLID. Going full circle with hardly any Chino guitar parts. If that is indeed the case, they'll defo be going out on a high.
Ill have to read the lyrics to radiant but it may b a way to confuse us?
Album is really good, like an 8/10 for me, but I feel slightly underwhelmed mostly because I don't feel like Steph does anything too interesting on this. I think I'm starting to realize I prefer Chino as a songwriter to Steph.
TSOM is absolute god-tier though.
I wish The Spell of Mathematics carried a little bit more of the segue at the end of Error into its intro. It kinda just jumps into the heavy part and it feels abrupt. I want more of a buildup there. Otherwise, it's an awesome song.
Pompeji could have been my top tier Deftones song. But this strange chorus... Is it just me ?
So very anxious and excited as my wait will continue. Hearing everyone's feedback thus far sustains me! Gotta temper my expectations...
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 23, 2020, 08:29 PM
Pompeji could have been my top tier Deftones song. But this strange chorus... Is it just me ?
No it's not you, Pompeji chorus is not good. And I agree that TSOM starts too abruptly, I could have definitely gone for a longer intro.
Just wrapped my 3rd listen. Some thoughts...
Want to know the talents of a God-tier band? Ohms (the track) sounds like a totally different song when it wraps the rest of the songs rather than heard as a stand-alone. I don't know how to explain it, but it just does.
The chorus to Radiant City is magic.
Urantia is likely my favorite now. Good grief, it has every single thing I like about Deftones. Instant classic.
Every Deftones album has, for me, at least one skippable song (sorry, don't shoot me...) This one does not. I love every song.
This one is something special, y'all. If they ARE calling it quits after this it's the perfect way to do it.
Why are people speculating that they are breaking up? Did I miss something or are y'all just reading into the lyrics.
I love Pompeji's chorus. It's almost like some post-punk shit. Punky as fuck lol.
People need to take a serious chill pill. Every single Deftones fan in communities is getting a fucking link as we speak. Most people aren't even taking the time to absorb the music, making "worst to best song" posts, polls and shit. I know there's covid but this is overblown. Just sit down and chill out ffs.
^lol^
They are NOT breaking up after this, you all are reading too much into the lyrics. There's a usually a song that makes me think Chino is talking directly to us, for example the lyrics in Prince:
"My gift to the world outside.
It's OK, I'm all right
Now open your empty hands
'cause here comes the fun here comes the end."
Abe said in that Kerrang article from a month ago that he wants to get back into the studio ASAP. They aren't going anywhere.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:43 PM
People need to take a serious chill pill. Every single Deftones fan in communities is getting a fucking link as we speak. Most people aren't even taking the time to absorb the music, making "worst to best song" posts, polls and shit. I know there's covid but this is overblown. Just sit down and chill out ffs.
LMAO, it's the nature of things. I remember the Diamond Eyes "Best song elimination Poll" years back was posted only a few days after its release.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
Chino may b telling us this is it.
Quote from: ghostofemilydickinson on Sep 23, 2020, 08:39 PM
If they ARE calling it quits after this it's the perfect way to do it.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 08:40 PM
Why are people speculating that they are breaking up?
See you all at the reunion tour
Keep in mind that everything I'm saying is just initial impressions. I might be saying totally different shit in a week.
I remember hating the chorus on Leathers the first time I heard it. It's my favorite song on Koi now.
I remember being completely in love with DE when it came out. That didn't last very long.
yeah i remember you saying you got chills when you heard the 'calculate' line in the 30 second amazon snippet of diamond eyes lmao
boom ten years later
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:53 PM
I remember being completely in love with DE when it came out. That didn't last very long.
I remember hearing Royal for the first time and being blown away... yeah that didn't last long for me. Still like the song but not as much as the others on DE.
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 23, 2020, 08:56 PM
yeah i remember you saying you got chills when you heard the 'calculate' line in the 30 second amazon snippet of diamond eyes lmao
boom ten years later
Ten years later you still sound like you paid your teachers for your degree, and from kindergarten on. :-*
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:43 PM
People need to take a serious chill pill. Every single Deftones fan in communities is getting a fucking link as we speak. Most people aren't even taking the time to absorb the music, making "worst to best song" posts, polls and shit. I know there's covid but this is overblown. Just sit down and chill out ffs.
Did you expect anything different though? People are excited...
Theres always tomorrow to change everyones mind.
I had considered ranking the songs today. There's nothing wrong with that but the rank will change tomorrow
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:53 PM
I remember being completely in love with DE when it came out. That didn't last very long.
DE is still my fav album. I've been into Deftones for a long time. Kinda ridiculous how good DE was, especially considering all the other bands I was into that lead me to discovering Deftones (Korn, Limp Bizkit) haven't been doing so hot like 25 years later
I hear Korn is getting better lately but I'm kinda past them
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:43 PM
People need to take a serious chill pill. Every single Deftones fan in communities is getting a fucking link as we speak. Most people aren't even taking the time to absorb the music, making "worst to best song" posts, polls and shit. I know there's covid but this is overblown. Just sit down and chill out ffs.
Theres always tomorrow to change everyones mind.
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT
PROMISED
TOMORROOWWW
DON'T LIVE FOR TODAY
Quote from: Draken on Sep 23, 2020, 08:58 PM
I remember hearing Royal for the first time and being blown away... yeah that didn't last long for me. Still like the song but not as much as the others on DE.
i rememer the first time i heard genesis.. i was like "welcome back STEPH!... and Terry- oh how I have longed for thee"
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I hear Korn is getting better lately but I'm kinda past them
The one they released last year was their best in ages.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 08:18 PM
Album is really good, like an 8/10 for me, but I feel slightly underwhelmed mostly because I don't feel like Steph does anything too interesting on this. I think I'm starting to realize I prefer Chino as a songwriter to Steph.
TSOM is absolute god-tier though.
I hear the complete opposite.
After every song I was like daaaaam Stephen
I feel he's way more creative on this musically since idno. Ages lol
Ohms is straight fire. I listened to it for four hours straight before work. DE was so good because they were feeling the loss of chi. KNY was a good clear headed album after dealing with the emotions of DE. I think Gore is just a "let's just see what happens" but you can tell they are trying to make a great
Album here.
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I remember hearing Royal for the first time and being blown away... yeah that didn't last long for me. Still like the song but not as much as the others on DE.
i rememer the first time i heard genesis.. i was like "welcome back STEPH!... and Terry- oh how I have longed for thee"
I know some don't like the title track but when i first heard it I had the "oh Terry" reaction. Gave me chills knowing it was Terry back behind the knobs. Production immediately sounded better than it previously has.
I have to admit.. I'm really disappointed there isn't slower song on this album ala Sextape, Entombed, Beauty School or even Phantom Bride...
Closest to that would be Urantia or Pompeji I guess..
Best to worst lists anyone? So far I'd have to go:
The Spell Of Mathematics
Headless
This Link Is Dead
Ceremony
Error
Pompeji
Radiant City
Urantia
Genesis
Ohms
I could see Radiant City and Urantia being higher over time though, they are already growing on me a lot from initial listens.
really want to hear the stuff steph,chino and abe did just the three of them.such a great idea to start things off,i hope those sessions are recorded
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I have to admit.. I'm really disappointed there isn't slower song on this album ala Sextape, Entombed, Beauty School or even Phantom Bride...
Closest to that would be Urantia or Pompeji I guess..
haven't heard the album yet but I am by contrast relieved to hear there's no slow song on the record.
I can't rank everything, but I think This Link Is Dead is my least favorite as of right now. It's like they are trying to do a throwback sound but it sounds a little silly and repetitive to me. Like fake angst. Dig Frank's synths on it, though.
All the other songs are good to great.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 09:18 PM
I can't rank everything, but I think This Link Is Dead is my least favorite as of right now. It's like they are trying to do a throwback sound but it sounds a little silly and repetitive to me. Like fake angst. Dig Frank's synths on it, though.
All the other songs are good to great.
Have you read the lyrics for it? Makes me like it more
Been spinning the album all day. First off, this album is leaps and bounds above Gore which is a huge relief. This is definitely Steph and Frank's record and I'm all for it. Didn't think "This Link Is Dead" lived up to all the hype it was getting on here. Didn't really get the "heavy track" vibe at all and the only comparison to WGTB I can hear is a few of the vocals sound similar. But damn, the last 3 tracks all together are really something. "Radiant City" and "Headless" were huge highlights for me. The boys are back on top of their game and firing on all cylinders here. I think it's only going to get better with time.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 09:18 PM
I can't rank everything, but I think This Link Is Dead is my least favorite as of right now. It's like they are trying to do a throwback sound but it sounds a little silly and repetitive to me. Like fake angst. Dig Frank's synths on it, though.
All the other songs are good to great.
Have you read the lyrics for it? Makes me like it more
Yup, don't think it Chino's best lyricism by a long shot. I don't think it's a bad song btw, I just like the other songs more.
I really seem to be in the minority here but I think Genesis is still my favorite.
I ordered the gold vinyl from https://craft-n-vinyl.com/ on 9/15. Haven't seen a shipment e-mail and they ignored my question about when it will ship. So is everyone in the US not getting their record on Friday unless you ordered from deftones.com? Of course I found the 192 mp3s but ick, why waste this epic experience ;)
I think my favorites right now are TSOM (that fucking beautiful outro might be the best thing theyve ever done and even blows away everything on white pony lol) and Radiant City (so groovy and etheral). But ive listened three times so its still early days. Pompeji confused me on first listen but is starting to grow on me fast.
The hype from the first listen has settled down a bit, ive calmed my tits. But still what i hear is a great fucking album, at least top half deftones stuff.
What i like about it is it throws away some 'tones cliches like each album has to have the chill song or the hard as nails song. This is just straight up chugging along ATF style. Perhaps a few unique melodies made with chinos guitar would compliment stefs chugs, but thats all the 'critique' i have right now.
Oh and get outta here with the breaking up stuff. These boys are loving it right now, its apparant in all interviews. With things still fucked up thanks to covid, who knows, maybe they head back in the studio next year? Could you imagine that? 2020 gives us Ohms and Black Stallion, 21 or 22 gives us another album. That would be insane for deftones standards and certainly at their age. Lol Im getting carried away again. Lets just enjoy this release for the coming months, i know i will!
Something about the end of The Spell Of Mathematics remind me of Deathblow. I can't exactly explain why, it just has a similar moodiness and atmosphere to it
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 09:29 PM
Something about the end of The Spell Of Mathematics remind me of Deathblow. I can't exactly explain why, it just has a similar moodiness and atmosphere to it
For sure, that's a good call. They both kind of break down at the end.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 09:16 PM
Best to worst lists anyone? So far I'd have to go:
The Spell Of Mathematics
Headless
This Link Is Dead
Ceremony
Error
Pompeji
Radiant City
Urantia
Genesis
Ohms
I could see Radiant City and Urantia being higher over time though, they are already growing on me a lot from initial listens.
Genesis
Ceremony
Error
Radiant City
Ohms
Pompeji
Headless
This Link Is Dead
Urantia
The Spell Of Mathematics
Can't even imagine doing a song ranking list on the day you hear the album.
Why not? It's not like it's my definitive rankings or anything. It's subject to change, I think that's kind of implied. I still have initial impressions and preferences after listening it close to 10 times now.
This album is straight fire. I give it a 9.5/10 right now after about 5 full playthroughs but I need at least a year to really reflect on how this fits in the rest of the discography.
There is something so fresh, immediate and innovative about how this record sounds to me. Somehow Deftones again is able to take their core sound and push it to a place where no other band can. The album has a feel that I can even still fully wrap my head around yet. It's full of grime and filth. This is not a flashy, shiny pop record full of simple song structures and predictable melodies. It challenges you on every song. Initially, I didn't even know what to make of it. There are layers on top of layers just waiting to be explored after numerous listening sessions. It's so dense with sound and atmosphere that after the album closes with Ohms, I just want to start all over again and try to uncover more and explore the depths of the music. There is not a single song I want to skip which means this is near a masterpiece if not already in my opinion. Honestly, I was a Gore fan as well because I loved how they showed they were not afraid to try new things and the record has a unique vibe that I very much enjoyed. This new album again shows that they can re-invent themselves time and time again without removing all the elements that we love about them so much. After all these years I can still say I'm blown away by this band and hope to hear the 10th album one day hopefully!
Top Tracks: Pompeji, Radiant City, The Link is Dead, Error, The Spell of Mathematics
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 09:41 PM
Why not? It's not like it's my definitive rankings or anything. It's subject to change, I think that's kind of implied. I still have initial impressions and preferences after listening it close to 10 times now.
100% agree.
What's fun is to see how different the rankings can be also.
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 09:16 PM
Best to worst lists anyone? So far I'd have to go:
The Spell Of Mathematics
Headless
This Link Is Dead
Ceremony
Error
Pompeji
Radiant City
Urantia
Genesis
Ohms
I could see Radiant City and Urantia being higher over time though, they are already growing on me a lot from initial listens.
urantia
ceremony
genesis
error
ohms
headless
TLID
radiant
math
pompeji
Hot take but T/T has honestly grown to being one of my favorite songs they've EVER done, and hearing it in the proper context has only made me love it even more. It has by far the most interesting riffs
I need to listen again but I'm really fond of Urantia and TSOM. I think my biggest gripe with them, and this has been the case with them for a little while now - out of left field transitions, not really any bridges.. I dunno.. just a general incoherence to some of their songs. Some songs aren't songs, just cut and pasted riffs. (L)MIRL is a good song to illustrate my point. A lot of interesting melodies and notes by Chino on this newer album. I think some of it is trying too hard? Kind of grating on the ears. The "bridge" on Genesis could've been epic but it led up to nothing.
But, my god, TSOM is my favorite thing they've done since DE.
Just my opinion. I love these guys. Since 1995, I've seen them live 47 times. I look forward to everything they put out. Looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say.
'Some songs aren't songs, just cut and pasted riffs'
Can you give examples? You can kind of say that about anything.
This is the first time I don't skip any song since SNW...Most of you said you hear some ATF/ST/KNY vibes. Maybe it's true, but for me they somehow redefined themselves - it's like completely different Deftones. And I like it a lot.
I've seen some people mention things about there being a lack of a ballad type song, but to be honest, I think there's enough melody in the songs that it almost cancels it out.
With most of their material, it was usually either a strictly heavy, or strictly soft song, yeah? With Ohms, it still feels like there's that good balance of heavy and soft, despite most of the songs having heavier roots to them.
If Pompeji was the 'ballad' track I think I'd bump the album up to a 9
This link is dead is easily his most aggressive vocal since RATS
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 09:53 PM
'Some songs aren't songs, just cut and pasted riffs'
Can you give examples? You can kind of say that about anything.
I said (L)MIRL explains my point.
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Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 09:53 PM
'Some songs aren't songs, just cut and pasted riffs'
Can you give examples? You can kind of say that about anything.
I said (L)MIRL explains my point.
Its weird how the mind works. (L)MIRL is one of my fav 'Gore' songs.
Quote from: nick310 on Sep 23, 2020, 10:04 PM
I've seen some people mention things about there being a lack of a ballad type song, but to be honest, I think there's enough melody in the songs that it almost cancels it out.
Yeah that's people having stylistic expectations again. Judge an album for what it is rather than what you want/expect it to be.
To be fair I haven't really seen many people doing that on here.
Also love the faster tempo of Error.
I'd be dancing my shit off to this in the crowd.
I guess in my dreams for now and the foreseeable future :o
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 09:18 PM
I can't rank everything, but I think This Link Is Dead is my least favorite as of right now. It's like they are trying to do a throwback sound but it sounds a little silly and repetitive to me. Like fake angst. Dig Frank's synths on it, though.
All the other songs are good to great.
Maybe fake angst but I do love Chino's screams on that song. It's funny because it's the heaviest vocal-wise, but by no means is it the heaviest musically.
I never would've guessed that Ceremony and Urantia end up being my (first) favourites for the album. They kind of got quiet praise on reviews that mentioned them, so it was easy to have no expectations. Pompeji grew on me after my third listen and now I love it for what it is (I don't know why, but I was expecting it to be similar to (L)MIRL in tone, but with an oceany soundscape???). Ohms has grown on me too, it's high up there now in song ranking for me.
Genuinely don't get the hyped up love for The Spell of Mathematics lol I was the same with Rubicon with Gore. I mean I love the whole album, so it's not that I view it negatively, it just doesn't seem like as mind-blowing a song as others on the album. What makes you guys love it so much? If it's something you can put into words, of course.
Agree that Ceremony and Urantia have sneakily become some of my go-to tracks. As for TSOM... It's just a perfectly mixed deluge of sound to soak in, I don't know how else to put it. Just jam it some more :)
"Youre on your fucking own 3X, IM SURE IMSURE OOOOOH"
- TLID. Hate this song. Maybe as i dissect it over time ill get into it but i hate that hes actually writing a letter to us.
According to Tidal, Chino plays guitar on the whole album. That's crazy
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:05 PM
"Youre on your fucking own 3X, IM SURE IMSURE OOOOOH"
- TLID. Hate this song. Maybe as i dissect it over time ill get into it but i hate that hes actually writing a letter to us.
I don't think it has anything to do with the fans directly. But I guess there could multiple levels to the interpretation as with a lot of Chino's lyrics
Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 11:21 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:05 PM
"Youre on your fucking own 3X, IM SURE IMSURE OOOOOH"
- TLID. Hate this song. Maybe as i dissect it over time ill get into it but i hate that hes actually writing a letter to us.
I don't think it has anything to do with the fans directly. But I guess there could multiple levels to the interpretation as with a lot of Chino's lyrics
how come that is a letter to us? I havent even read the lyrics
A letter to us, fans? Dont you guys think you are reading way too much into this?
agreed, if anything I get more of a relationship breakup vibe. but then in the interviews chino has mentioned things being obscure and ambiguous
so it's probably not meant to be taken any one way specifically
Just a first listen opinion
It sounds fuller and more cohesive/energetic than Gore from a production standpoint, but the guitar stuff sometimes lack some effort (Gore had the same problem)....some arrangements sounds too simple for my taste. Its all 0-1-0-1 riffs, slid octaves (like the chorus of Genesis) and hanging chords (like the choruses of Urantia, Error and Radiant City). Some songs really lack some hooks too, and don't really have memorable ideas that gets stuck in your head (Pompeji/TLID).
That being said, TSOM it's by far my favorite song of the album and maybe one of the best of their carrer, and I'm glad Frank synths are more pronounced this time. The A side of the album is nice, but the second half of the record it's somewhat lackluster. I'm waiting for a proper quality sounding rip or official stream to hear the way it truly sounds, and have a better evaluation about it. I'm happy about the record, but some of the guitars I feel were written with little effort. and putting a bunch of layers of synths and effects on top of it won't save a song.
Listen, I have never been someone to say any music should sound like anything including this band. But there are a lot and a lot of people who do and it's just what I felt the first time listening to it. So many expectations and people throwing their pointless ideas at him because he's going to do what he's going to do is the vibe I get. I've listen to this Again and I like the song better but I can't get the idea out of my head just yet. Chino will never tell us what it's about because that's not what he does. So it's just something I said and not to cause a big stir. Man we are lucky today! It is a good fucking album
Seems like there's a bit of projection going on here.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:53 PM
Listen, I have never been someone to say any music should sound like anything including this band. But there are a lot and a lot of people who do and it's just what I felt the first time listening to it. So many expectations and people throwing their pointless ideas at him because he's going to do what he's going to do is the vibe I get. I've listen to this Again and I like the song better but I can't get the idea out of my head just yet. Chino will never tell us what it's about because that's not what he does. So it's just something I said and not to cause a big stir. Man we are lucky today! It is a good fucking album
Dont worry, dude. Every person with their own takes on it. Fair game!
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 09:18 PM
I can't rank everything, but I think This Link Is Dead is my least favorite as of right now. It's like they are trying to do a throwback sound but it sounds a little silly and repetitive to me. Like fake angst. Dig Frank's synths on it, though.
All the other songs are good to great.
Have you read the lyrics for it? Makes me like it more
Yup, don't think it Chino's best lyricism by a long shot. I don't think it's a bad song btw, I just like the other songs more.
I really seem to be in the minority here but I think Genesis is still my favorite.
It is definitely a Deftones song and a classic to come in my book as well
9 string groove on Error tho
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:53 PM
Listen, I have never been someone to say any music should sound like anything including this band. But there are a lot and a lot of people who do and it's just what I felt the first time listening to it. So many expectations and people throwing their pointless ideas at him because he's going to do what he's going to do is the vibe I get. I've listen to this Again and I like the song better but I can't get the idea out of my head just yet. Chino will never tell us what it's about because that's not what he does. So it's just something I said and not to cause a big stir. Man we are lucky today! It is a good fucking album
Dont worry, dude. Every person with their own takes on it. Fair game!
Yup that's all it is thanks. I expect people to disagree or have their own take that's the fun of it. It's the passive aggressiveness and the smart shit that don't matter to me. Deftones music is fair game to any of us here. And it is a priviledge
I don't think Deftones are going anywhere especially after that recent Chino interview where it seemed like he's in a really good place in life and on really good terms with all the members.
Prob wont. Fingers crossed. B a while to know tho
I've been circling SL for years.
I like many of you, am a long die hard fan - obsessed with Deftones.
This place is officially toxic and interfering with your enjoyment of the music. Maybe your extreme fandom is.
OHMS is a REMARKABLE album. Remarkable. Textured, unique, dynamic, and deeply emotional.
Enjoy and stop bitching. This is one Deftones greatest albums.
Did not expect this kind of hate for This Link is Dead. I keep going back to it and it's an instant favorite from this album for me. It's got such a strong WGTB vibe to it both vocally and via the guitar buildup. I expected the Meshuggah-inspired riff driving Radiant City would be my favorite, and it's a close 2nd favorite simply from the sheer anger the whole band puts in to TLID that brought me all the way back to Self-Titled in such a special way. Angry Chino has the biggest impressions on me personally, and god damn is he angry in TLID. It's an absolute monster and leads in to Radiant City so perfectly I can't even describe it. My favorite two and one of the best neighboring song pairs on any Deftones album, IMO.
The way he screams "SOMETHIIING" is a beautiful WGTB callback. Somethiiings wroooong with youuu if you hate This Link is Dead!
TLID was good but didn't really send me to heaven like TSOM or Urantia
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:53 PM
Listen, I have never been someone to say any music should sound like anything including this band. But there are a lot and a lot of people who do and it's just what I felt the first time listening to it. So many expectations and people throwing their pointless ideas at him because he's going to do what he's going to do is the vibe I get. I've listen to this Again and I like the song better but I can't get the idea out of my head just yet. Chino will never tell us what it's about because that's not what he does. So it's just something I said and not to cause a big stir. Man we are lucky today! It is a good fucking album
The same Chino who was happy to tell the world that Digital Bath is about electrocuting a woman in a bath tub? Ahhhh I don't know, he might tell us, maybe someone will ask him after a show lol.
Yeah the lyrics aren't as abstract as the others on the album, probably my least favourite lyrically, but definitely don't think it's to the fans. I imagine at this point in their career, Chino has grown used to the constant complaints of hardcore fans that want an album to sound MAXIMUM HEAVY, haha. Plus imagine if it was about that and he ends up giving them what they want, a heavy screaming song, with him screaming about how he hates it??? Damn.
Quote from: tps1989 on Sep 24, 2020, 12:07 AM
I've been circling SL for years.
I like many of you, am a long die hard fan - obsessed with Deftones.
This place is officially toxic and interfering with your enjoyment of the music. Maybe your extreme fandom is.
OHMS is a REMARKABLE album. Remarkable. Textured, unique, dynamic, and deeply emotional.
Enjoy and stop bitching. This is one Deftones greatest albums.
Here's a little fact for you: having different opinions isn't the same as being toxic. We're all just discussing an album that everyone except one person has had great things to say about overall. The fact that some people have criticisms and want to discuss them doesn't mean it's toxic.
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Sep 24, 2020, 12:09 AM
Did not expect this kind of hate for This Link is Dead. I keep going back to it and it's an instant favorite from this album for me. It's got such a strong WGTB vibe to it both vocally and via the guitar buildup. I expected the Meshuggah-style riff driving Radiant City would be my favorite, and it's a close 2nd favorite simply from the sheer anger the whole band puts in to TLID that brought me all the way back to Self-Titled in such a special way. Angry Chino has the biggest impressions on me personally, and god damn is he angry in TLID. It's an absolute monster and leads in to Radiant City so perfectly I can't even describe it. My favorite two and one of the best neighboring song pairs on any Deftones album, IMO.
The way he screams "SOMETHIIING" is a beautiful WGTB callback. Somethiiings wroooong with youuu.
I haven't seen any hate for This Link is Dead, just a few people saying it isn't as heavy as expected, or that it's not at the top for them. A far stretch from hate though. I love the song but not a fan of the lyrics lol. The screams do remind me of WGTB, I have to admit.
Quote from: tps1989 on Sep 24, 2020, 12:07 AM
I've been circling SL for years.
I like many of you, am a long die hard fan - obsessed with Deftones.
This place is officially toxic and interfering with your enjoyment of the music. Maybe your extreme fandom is.
OHMS is a REMARKABLE album. Remarkable. Textured, unique, dynamic, and deeply emotional.
Enjoy and stop bitching. This is one Deftones greatest albums.
I don't believe you. This place is the same it's always been. Some more projection happening here.
Fuuuuuck. They own Spell. Especially serg, frank and abe. Beautiful. Good "fuck" song for me ;)
You should believe me. I've was here for TokyoDrifter's original Eros video.
I was here for "Chongo"
Then you should know the discussion happening is tame by comparison. People are allowed to have different opinions on a discussion forum. Sounds like you want everyone to love the album for some reason though.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 24, 2020, 12:26 AM
Then you should know the discussion happening is tame by comparison. People are allowed to have different opinions on a discussion forum. Sounds like you want everyone to love the album for some reason though.
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It kinda sounds like if u dont like something said, u feel "projection". Just know im not here to hurt your feelings. Im gonna say what i think about it like anyone else. Cheers
I freaking love the seagulls getting a digital bath, and jesus coming in and serving us with some jesus juice
I just did the preorder and am listening for the first time. Ceremony instantly put a smile on my face that the 2 singles didn't. I wish the groove was a little longer but it's a good start.
Quote from: tps1989 on Sep 24, 2020, 12:24 AM
You should believe me. I've was here for TokyoDrifter's original Eros video.
Then you should know by now that different opinions aren't toxic, and that literally only one person has said the album is bad lol. Everyone else loves the album and is just talking about the strong and weak points of the album.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 24, 2020, 12:30 AM
I freaking love the seagulls getting a digital bath, and jesus coming in and serving us with some jesus juice
Same. The seagulls fit very nicely, and it means we don't need to hear Chino attempt to imitate a seagull. It's a blessed song.
The back half of Error is unlike anything they've ever written.
Fuck...The Spell of Mathematics is amazing!
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 24, 2020, 12:36 AM
The back half of Error is unlike anything they've ever written.
It sure is. So dreamy from abt 220 on right?
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 24, 2020, 12:46 AM
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 24, 2020, 12:36 AM
The back half of Error is unlike anything they've ever written.
It sure is. So dreamy from abt 220 on right?
Yes! Such a beautiful contrast to the first half.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Sep 24, 2020, 12:43 AM
Fuck...The Spell of Mathematics is amazing!
One of my favorites on there so far
After first listen, I have no problem saying this is the best album of the Sergio era. It is quality that ranks up there with the Chi albums for me.
TSoM didn't grab me as much as people made it seem. I think the passage in the middle will stand out a lot more with a better quality recording.
The only qualm I have is that I think the album would've flowed a bit better with Headless being after Pompeji.
Ok Pompeji is finally growing on me. TSOM is still the best fucking thing they've ever made. I kind of wish the whole album was just a 46 minute version of TSOM :P
i cant wait for a FLAC version
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 24, 2020, 01:23 AM
TSOM is still the best fucking thing they've ever made.
That's really not a stretch to say. It's one of their best songs already.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 24, 2020, 01:23 AM
Ok Pompeji is finally growing on me. TSOM is still the best fucking thing they've ever made. I kind of wish the whole album was just a 46 minute version of TSOM :P
Same here, I didn't like Pompeji that much at first listen... but now... fuck! I can't stop.
TSOM... mmm still not loving it, but he'll, it's so sexy, and lyrics are top.
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 24, 2020, 01:33 AM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 24, 2020, 01:23 AM
Ok Pompeji is finally growing on me. TSOM is still the best fucking thing they've ever made. I kind of wish the whole album was just a 46 minute version of TSOM :P
Same here, I didn't like Pompeji that much at first listen... but now... fuck! I can't stop.
TSOM... mmm still not loving it, but he'll, it's so sexy, and lyrics are top.
yup. I had the album on repeat for 9 hours today. I even appreciate the 2 singles more now
link is dead lyrics literally written by chino @ all of you lol
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Sep 24, 2020, 12:31 AM
I just did the preorder and am listening for the first time. Ceremony instantly put a smile on my face that the 2 singles didn't. I wish the groove was a little longer but it's a good start.
Totally agree! Ceremony and Urantia both Gave me chills right out of the gate.
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Quote from: bebo on Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 PM
Looks like someone really fucked up at Amazon, the German listing for Ohms pre-order includes 15 sec snippets of every song on the record. Getting really strong Hole in the Earth vibes from Spell of Mathematics, everything sounds pretty experimental and new ground for the tones... Thank you Terry!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08G3X1D8T/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1 (http://lemonparty.org/)
Aaaaaaaah ! Finally !!!! And from bebo too.....
Man, that got me straight in the member berries.... :)
Good to see that you're still alive and kicking bebo...
luv u
I hear the same exact chords in Spell of mathematics as the ending of UUDDSelectStart of SNW Or Konami Code whatever u wanna call .. they are identical. Not complaining . It's perfect. What a song!!
If you asked me my top five songs on SNW, DE, KNY and Gore, I could easily give you a list.
As of right now, I don't think I can choose with Ohms. There's too many stand out songs. That's how you know it's a highly consistent album.
If I could get a shipping email for my "clear with zine" pre order that'd be great 🙃
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 01:47 AM
If you asked me my top five songs on SNW, DE, KNY and Gore, I could easily give you a list.
As of right now, I don't think I can choose with Ohms. There's too many stand out songs. That's how you know it's a highly consistent album.
Its def higher shelf than those records imo
Don't ask for the leak.
Two more hours guys.
Quote from: E-Money on Sep 24, 2020, 01:46 AM
I hear the same exact chords in Spell of mathematics as the ending of UUDDSelectStart of SNW Or Konami Code whatever u wanna call .. they are identical. Not complaining . It's perfect. What a song!!
UUDDSelectStart is literally my fave song by them so I was hoping there'd be something somewhat on par with that. TSOM did not disappoint.
Is anyone else kinda put off by sections of the vocals? It's like the only thing keeping it from being a 10/10 for me. Particularly the starts of Urantia, Error, Radiant City, and Headless. Just feels like they're spoken/sung in an odd cadence and melody in each of them and then the rest of the song works.
Only complaint really. Ceremony, This Link is Dead, and Ohms are my favorites followed closely by TSOM, Pompeji, and Headless. Overall fantastic album
Also the end of "headless" sounds very similar to the end of "prince"
FYI Anyone requesting leaks or please PM me shit. I promise you I will personally temporarily ban you or worst. Thanks.
There's some odd cadence moments, yeah. Beginning of Ceremony comes to mind
I don't mind pulling off wings and laughing if anyone F's up.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:05 PM
"Youre on your fucking own 3X, IM SURE IMSURE OOOOOH"
- TLID. Hate this song. Maybe as i dissect it over time ill get into it but i hate that hes actually writing a letter to us.
LOL. srsly.
LOL
Fuck. That bass line in Ceremony is so fucking sexy...
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 24, 2020, 02:25 AM
Fuck. That bass line in Ceremony is so fucking sexy...
Sergio really shines on a lot of this
Which is honestly a mix of his ability and contribution and the production being top notch
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 01:47 AM
If you asked me my top five songs on SNW, DE, KNY and Gore, I could easily give you a list.
As of right now, I don't think I can choose with Ohms. There's too many stand out songs. That's how you know it's a highly consistent album.
To be fair, part of that is probably that it's still so fresh and discovering the layers to the songs, digesting them, etc. At least that's how it is for me, my ritual for every album is "THIS IS THE BEST THING THEY'VE EVER DONE" for a few weeks lol.
Pompeji is definitely my favourite now along with Ceremony and Urantia. And TSOM has grown on me a lot, I can appreciate what people were saying. Still not right up there for me, but an awesome song.
Quote from: Vanby on Sep 24, 2020, 02:01 AM
Is anyone else kinda put off by sections of the vocals? It's like the only thing keeping it from being a 10/10 for me. Particularly the starts of Urantia, Error, Radiant City, and Headless. Just feels like they're spoken/sung in an odd cadence and melody in each of them and then the rest of the song works.
Only complaint really. Ceremony, This Link is Dead, and Ohms are my favorites followed closely by TSOM, Pompeji, and Headless. Overall fantastic album
Not for me. I agree there are parts of songs that have a quite unique melody or cadence to them, but for me they're part of what I think is making this album so amazing.
I think it's safe for me to say that Ceremony, Pompeji, Urantia and Spell are going to be in my favorites out of all their albums.
2 more hours
There are certain elements of this album that remind me of Faith No More's Angel Dust album. The song "Crack Hitler" popped in my head while I was listening to TLID. I guess it's the dichotomy of the mellow/heavy parts flowing throughout the album. It's like if Ohms went on Ancestry.com, it would find out that Angel Dust was it's great grandfather.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 24, 2020, 02:25 AM
Fuck. That bass line in Ceremony is so fucking sexy...
Yes sir it is... same with spell.
Now I just want to get into a toxic relationship and dump her eventually so I can listen to Ceremony and have it hit different.
I take back earlier comments, *this* is my favorite new track. Honestly possibly one of my all time Deftones favs (early to call it though)
Battle-Axe already conjures up memories of a very specific ex for me lol
After a few listens I have no desire to skip a single second, not even the singles I've already heard a bunch.
Another shout out to those waiting. Blue balls squad hands up
I'm sure it's been asked, but I must've missed it:
For those of us who Pre-ordered, will we be sent a link at 12am on release date? Does anyone know?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 05:32 AM
Another shout out to those waiting. Blue balls squad hands up
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Quote from: the deft ones on Sep 24, 2020, 05:36 AM
I'm sure it's been asked, but I must've missed it:
For those of us who Pre-ordered, will we be sent a link at 12am on release date? Does anyone know?
That is a good ass question... in my previous experience with preorders, no. I can recall another album that I had to download elsewhere because the link was not in my inbox at midnight. I could be wrong about this one. Not sure when they consider it time to send out the links tbh
Quote from: Draken on Sep 24, 2020, 06:00 AM
Quote from: the deft ones on Sep 24, 2020, 05:36 AM
I'm sure it's been asked, but I must've missed it:
For those of us who Pre-ordered, will we be sent a link at 12am on release date? Does anyone know?
That is a good ass question... in my previous experience with preorders, no. I can recall another album that I had to download elsewhere because the link was not in my inbox at midnight. I could be wrong about this one. Not sure when they consider it time to send out the links tbh
Cheers mate. Hoping I can at least hear a good quality version on the 25th.
I actually recall one preorder vinyl (can't remember which one) physically turning up on it's release date. Clearly that's not happening here.
I've said it before and I'll fucking say it again.
The Spell of Mathematics has one of their coolest sexiest sounds in their entire catalog. So fucking groovy as well.
And the song is only growing on me more and more.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 05:32 AM
Another shout out to those waiting. Blue balls squad hands up
Still going strong. At this rate, everyone will have stopped talking about it by tomorrow :D
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 24, 2020, 06:10 AM
I've said it before and I'll fucking say it again.
The Spell of Mathematics has one of their coolest sexiest sounds in their entire catalog. So fucking groovy as well.
And the song is only growing on me more and more.
Totally!!!! lyrics are brutal... i mean in the whole record, these lyrics are fine...no matter how many times chino uses the word "honey" it does not sound cheesy.
Quote from: the deft ones on Sep 24, 2020, 06:06 AM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 24, 2020, 06:00 AM
Quote from: the deft ones on Sep 24, 2020, 05:36 AM
I'm sure it's been asked, but I must've missed it:
For those of us who Pre-ordered, will we be sent a link at 12am on release date? Does anyone know?
That is a good ass question... in my previous experience with preorders, no. I can recall another album that I had to download elsewhere because the link was not in my inbox at midnight. I could be wrong about this one. Not sure when they consider it time to send out the links tbh
Cheers mate. Hoping I can at least hear a good quality version on the 25th.
I actually recall one preorder vinyl (can't remember which one) physically turning up on it's release date. Clearly that's not happening here.
I'd imagine there will at least be a good quality download circulating by then...
Still waiting for tomorrow :)
I actually liked Gore a lot. My only issue was that some songs felt a bit undercooked . For example, Xenon had a great riff / groove going on, but then the song basically had no bridge, or really anything past the verse/chorus parts, which made it feel a bit filler.
That's the thing I'm hoping for with this new album : no more filler / unfulfilled songs. :p
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Sep 24, 2020, 03:43 AM
There are certain elements of this album that remind me of Faith No More's Angel Dust album. The song "Crack Hitler" popped in my head while I was listening to TLID. I guess it's the dichotomy of the mellow/heavy parts flowing throughout the album. It's like if Ohms went on Ancestry.com, it would find out that Angel Dust was it's great grandfather.
That is probably the funniest and best way I've ever read someone express that a newly released song sounds like its influenced by a song that is roughly 30 years older than it.
I reject both Sides!!
Still nothing on that..one music site. Up On Blocks!
CHRISTMAS is here ..24
Put the new album... in the fuckin' bag.
i'm just here to say this is the best shit in years, back to my cave!
I'm so excited for you guys that waited. I cannot wait to see this threat over the next few days hear everyone's first impressions and reactions. This is a special time. I'm glad I got to share it with a lot of you. I did my best to refrain from being too autistic as we got close to release LOL. It's been a fun Wild Ride the payoff is just about here!
This crazy, insane year has been rough on every single one of us. I know I'm not alone when I say that the promise of this album was monumental in helping me stay strong while I guided my family through this wild new reality we live in. It's funny how something as simple as an album can bring so much hope and joy to so many people.
We did it though boys. We made it. Anna special huge props mm at waited until the very end to listen to it, especially you Ves. I hope you have some time carved out for yourself so you can enjoy the album in peace
Yeah it's been a crazy year, personally it's been super nice to have something positive come out of it. It just reminds me things aren't all bad , stuff work itself out in the end just enjoy the simple things like new music.
I'm going to say this is my favorite Deftones album now, it has multiple songs that would probably go in my top 10 all time Deftones track list and as a whole it's just so complete. I had it on a loop today, Still not sick of any of the songs, It's probably honestly the first time with any album from any band that I haven't found at least one track that I skip every time.
Top 3 for me currently is Ceremony,TSOM and Pompeji but the others are growing on me with every listen
It's out there in 320 and FLAC now.
it looks like a cover has a nose and a mouth
I like the alternate cover lol lol lol
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Just loaded the Flacs into my player, so stoked to finally hear the follow up to an album I still haven't stopped playing over and over again, "Gore"! and I almost went to bed 8)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 24, 2020, 10:22 AM
I like the alternate cover lol lol lol
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WTF? I aw that earlier - is it official?
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 24, 2020, 11:05 AM
WTF? I aw that earlier - is it official?
lol what do you think?
Eh, got the FLACS ready now !
Home working, and I don't want to have the first listening experience interrupted by a Skype call :D
Waiting for the night, and some moody atmosphere. Gonna be good.
I want to marry the chorus on Error.
Trying not to make too big a statement about this album. For now, I'm just saying I love it.
Can't wait to crank this shit in my office. If ya ain't talkin Deftones these next few days, I don't wanna talk 😤
Preorder bundles are now showing as 'status: packing' on my account!
I think I've officially burned myself out on Urantia :O
One thing I can say almost for sure, there hasn't been such a wave of appreciation over the last three records.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 12:35 PM
One thing I can say almost for sure, there hasn't been such a wave of appreciation over the last three records.
Hard to say before it actually comes out. Diamond Eyes was pretty damn positive (maybe not so much on here).
If it is though, it's the last five records because SNW and S/T were not received amazingly well at the time.
TLID is one of the weaker songs on here. The verses go on for too long with no variation, that kind of bugs me. Radiant City is the better one of the 2 'heavy' tracks.
Ceremony, Urantia, Error have become firm favorites of mine in the last 24 hours
Before finding balance:
It's a mistake, but go ahead and take a side!
But watch how you choose,
Or be headed for a ride!
After finding balance:
I reject,
Both sides of what I'm being told!
I see right through,
Now watch how wild it gets!
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
Ceremony and Urantia have been in my head all day. Yesterday Mathematics and Radiant City were my favorites. Theyre constantly shifting, so cool.
Edit: vesanic this is the final stretch man. Kinda jelous cause you get to experience it for the first time. Enjoy and curious to learn what you think.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
Well done Ves, I had to crack yesterday. My willpower haven given in!
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 01:03 PM
Ceremony and Urantia have been in my head all day. Yesterday Mathematics and Radiant City were my favorites. Theyre constantly shifting, so cool.
Edit: vesanic this is the final stretch man. Kinda jelous cause you get to experience it for the first time. Enjoy and curious to learn what you think.
They get better with each listen, so good!
Still no shipping notification from the UK store about the pre-order bundles & casettes
Probably the best lyrics on a Deftones' album.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 12:54 PM
Ceremony, Urantia, Error have become firm favorites of mine in the last 24 hours
Same here. My 3 favorites for sure!! That ending on Error.. absolute bliss.
I'm loving Pompeji more and more with every listen
This Link is Dead is to Ohms what When Girls... was to self titled, I think. Angry Chino
What a fucking masterpiece my friends. 2020 is saved
I feel that the slow, atmospheric parts of Ohms were what Eros would've sounded like
Not getting any WGTB vibes from TLID
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 12:54 PM
Ceremony, Urantia, Error have become firm favorites of mine in the last 24 hours
Ceremony, Urantia and Pompeji for me. I do love the ending of Error though. What are your favourites from previous albums? Wondering if we have the same taste in Deftones songs haha.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
What was the point? U paid. Not gonna benefit you, just enjoy it dude
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 02:06 PM
Not getting any WGTB vibes from TLID
For me, the screams and the effect on the vocals sound a lot like WGTB. But the music, nah.
I love Error, the ending is amazing, but I can't be the only one that feels the drum beat and riff somewhat reminds them of Korn.
I was going to make a short list of my favorite tracks but I really can't narrow it down to 3-4. This is soooo good.
The emotional parts in Headless ufff
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 24, 2020, 02:36 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 12:54 PM
Ceremony, Urantia, Error have become firm favorites of mine in the last 24 hours
Ceremony, Urantia and Pompeji for me. I do love the ending of Error though. What are your favourites from previous albums? Wondering if we have the same taste in Deftones songs haha.
Tempest, Poltergeist, Risk, Butcher, Around The Fur, MX, Korea, Feit, Needles & Pins, WGTB, Bloody Cape....there's probably loads more, ha!
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 02:51 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 24, 2020, 02:36 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 12:54 PM
Ceremony, Urantia, Error have become firm favorites of mine in the last 24 hours
Ceremony, Urantia and Pompeji for me. I do love the ending of Error though. What are your favourites from previous albums? Wondering if we have the same taste in Deftones songs haha.
Tempest, Poltergeist, Risk, Butcher, Around The Fur, MX, Korea, Feit, Needles & Pins, WGTB, Bloody Cape....there's probably loads more, ha!
Damn, very similar! That's pretty cool. MX is probably riiiight near the top for me.
Most experimental album since white pony?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 24, 2020, 03:11 PM
Most experimental album since white pony?
I think a lot of Gore was quite experimental for deftones, but a failed one. This is the real deal.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 24, 2020, 03:11 PM
Most experimental album since white pony?
Yeah, I guess you could say that. KNY had the beginnings of it in my opinion (the intros/outros, Entombed, WHTY), then Gore kind of tried to do more but with mixed results. So at the very least you could say this is their most successfully-attempted experimental album.
Error is the Deftones chorus I never knew I needed.
Pure bliss.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 02:51 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 24, 2020, 02:36 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 24, 2020, 12:54 PM
Ceremony, Urantia, Error have become firm favorites of mine in the last 24 hours
Ceremony, Urantia and Pompeji for me. I do love the ending of Error though. What are your favourites from previous albums? Wondering if we have the same taste in Deftones songs haha.
Tempest, Poltergeist, Risk, Butcher, Around The Fur, MX, Korea, Feit, Needles & Pins, WGTB, Bloody Cape....there's probably loads more, ha!
Some quality fkn tracks right there.
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live
Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live
Genesis would be so good live.
Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live
I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.
Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 24, 2020, 03:35 PM
Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live
I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.
Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
I hope this time around they include more new stuff on the live shows, these songs deserve the live experience. We could get some amazing setlists
Radiant's chorus is growing on me. Cant seem to grab onto the schizo-riff throughout though.
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Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live
I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.
Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
maybe they realised none of those songs were fan favorites and had luke warm reactions so they decided to not play them. Usually bands play too much newer stuff and ignore the older deep cuts. But with Ohms, I wouldn't mind them playing all the songs.
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Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live
I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.
Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
maybe they realised none of those songs were fan favorites and had luke warm reactions so they decided to not play them. Usually bands play too much newer stuff and ignore the older deep cuts. But with Ohms, I wouldn't mind them playing all the songs.
Maybe. I think that's partially true. I think they didn't rehearse them because they didn't really like the songs. They pretty much played all of them live at some point, except for Xenon and Pittura.
I've seen them so many times that any sort of deep cut or something I've never heard them play live is always welcomed. Geometric Headdress is on my wish list, although I doubt that will ever happen for me.
It's very difficult for a band with so many albums to make a setlist that'll make most people happy.
First time I saw them live, I was disapointed they wasted their time playing "Teenager". I liked the song but i didnt care about seeing it live. I was a dumb teenager.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 24, 2020, 03:48 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 24, 2020, 03:44 PM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 24, 2020, 03:35 PM
Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live
I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.
Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
maybe they realised none of those songs were fan favorites and had luke warm reactions so they decided to not play them. Usually bands play too much newer stuff and ignore the older deep cuts. But with Ohms, I wouldn't mind them playing all the songs.
Maybe. I think that's partially true. I think they didn't rehearse them because they didn't really like the songs. They pretty much played all of them live at some point, except for Xenon and Pittura.
I've seen them so many times that any sort of deep cut or something I've never heard them play live is always welcomed. Geometric Headdress is on my wish list, although I doubt that will ever happen for me.
When I saw them on their Gore tour, they'd been switching up between two different setlists and alternating on each day. The one that was the day before mine they played Geometric Headdress, my favourite at the time, we got Phantom Bride. Which, don't get me wrong, sounded amazing, but damn. And (L)MIRL, my other favourite, they'd only recently stopped playing live. I was kind of bitter about it lol. They played a few SNW songs on the alternate setlist that I missed too, and Teething and Hexagram I believe. I love the band and I've never been disappointed by a live show, but expecting them to play some new songs or songs you've not heard them play much and they mostly play DE songs was just...unjust haha.
Genesis
TSOM
Pompeji
This Link Is Dead is growing on me a lot. It's a banger.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 03:59 PM
This Link Is Dead is growing on me a lot. It's a banger.
It took me a couple of listens to adjust to it too because Ceremony-Urantia-Error-TSOM-Pompeji was such a beautiful run. It's got me now.
Listened to it in full five times now and my opinion is slowly but surely crystalizing. Still very happy with it!
I think the chorus of Radiant City remains my favorite part of the record. Its sooooo good for my soul, I cant explain it. Almost all songs are firmly stuck in my head now and I love em. Even Pompeji grew on me entirely. I had some problems with Error the first few runs as well but its getting much much better.
The only song Im still not entirely set on, is Headless. I love the groovy sounds, but Chino's singing reminds me a bit too much of Gore - not that I hate that record but you know what I mean. It feels a bit 'aimless' for me, but that could also be because I just havent 'learned' the strange sonic loundscape of it yet. So we'll see how it'll end up.
For now Im still very positive the record is in the top half of the discography for me. This is in no way final - actually it never is - but if you'd put a gun on my head and I had to make a list, it would probably go like this:
White Pony
Diamond Eyes
Ohms
Koi No Yokan
Around the Fur
Self Titled / SNW (tied)
Gore
Adrenaline
Everything from White Pony to (and including) ATF is god-tier for me. Like ultimate classic and above the best works of most other bands I listen to. So that should tell you something.
Which reminds me that I really have to try and learn to appreciate Adrenaline more. Ive listened to it plenty but somehow never really got it (I got into deftones during ATF-days). I want to like it more, we'll see how that goes after the hype for Ohms has settled.
Edit: one other thing I wanted to mention - I'm so glad we have another 'heavy' Deftones record in the discography. Its not straight up metal or anything, and stuff like White Pony is my favorite shit, but Im just glad there's another record besides ATF that I can blast through my speakers when I really want some heavy Deftones stuff. That's very cool.
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Hey, my opinion is the complete opposite. This album makes Gore sound even worse.
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
Outside of Acid Hologram I don't really see myself returning to Gore that often ever again.
He could mean Gore now makes more sense to him.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
I could easily see people being turned off by most of the vocal melodies on this album. And chino's screaming can hurt your ears. And some riffs are "simple". That's the negative I could see. But my biggest complaint of Gore has been fixed, which is the horrible mixing/production.
I'm not a huge fan of Gore. Had it come out as a Chino side-project, I'd probably like it more, lol. That said, Ohms makes you realize how bad and disconnected it really was. The feel of the album is very upbeat. Obviously you can probably attribute that to the Abe, Stef, and Chino writing together, in-person, like the old days. This album definitely has a case of the feelies. :D
I want to know if this was recorded with the AXE-FX III or tubed amps. I saw someone here or somewhere that said the album was recorded with heads this time. The guitars are a little over produced or it's the AXF3. It's a bit sterile feeling. Hard to explain.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
The Gore era is over, and I can take about 4 of 5 good songs from it into the Ohms era. I'll call it a W. If I take 4 or 5 songs from the Ohms era when its all said and done, I'll call it a really good Gorhomes EP and be on to the next thing
I still like Gore. It's a good record.
This is much better.
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 24, 2020, 04:24 PM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
The Gore era is over, and I can take about 4 of 5 good songs from it into the Ohms era. I'll call it a W. If I take 4 or 5 songs from the Ohms era when its all said and done, I'll call it a really good Gorhomes EP and be on to the next thing
What? I don't understand what you just said at all.
If Terry produced Gore, it would be as good (or, bit of a hot take here, perhaps even better) than Ohms.
Im not that negative about Gore but as you can see on the previous page it is bottom tire tones for me. Funnily enough ive had (l)mirl in my head for a few weeks now, even after listening to the new record, and i used to hate that song.
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Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 24, 2020, 04:24 PM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
The Gore era is over, and I can take about 4 of 5 good songs from it into the Ohms era. I'll call it a W. If I take 4 or 5 songs from the Ohms era when its all said and done, I'll call it a really good Gorhomes EP and be on to the next thing
What? I don't understand what you just said at all.
think a little harder
Writing wise, this album is much more closer to Gore than any other previous album IMO. But this is done much better.
Would you guys say this is a better produced and a stef-engaged sequel to gore? I could see that.
Lemme explain more: i can definitely see chino's vocal melodies being in line with Gore, but the music is much more punchier.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:29 PM
Would you guys say this is a better produced and a stef-engaged sequel to gore? I could see that.
Without hesitation... yes
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 04:25 PM
If Terry produced Gore, it would be as good (or, bit of a hot take here, perhaps even better) than Ohms.
I actually like Gore production. What really brings the album down a bit, for me, is how unachieved a couple songs felt (Xenon, Doomed User). Makes total sense nowadays, regarding the recent interviews and how Chino sort of said that album was rushed.
Stuff like Acid Hologram, Geometric Headdress or Hearts/Wires still ranks among my favorite. Especially the 2nd one, what a banger'
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Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:29 PM
Would you guys say this is a better produced and a stef-engaged sequel to gore? I could see that.
Without hesitation... yes
Makes sense as its the next record lol. Logical evolution and all that
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 24, 2020, 02:37 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
What was the point? U paid. Not gonna benefit you, just enjoy it dude
It is. ;)
At this point im hyped to read vesanics reaction to the album.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:02 PM
Listened to it in full five times now and my opinion is slowly but surely crystalizing. Still very happy with it!
I think the chorus of Radiant City remains my favorite part of the record. Its sooooo good for my soul, I cant explain it. Almost all songs are firmly stuck in my head now and I love em. Even Pompeji grew on me entirely. I had some problems with Error the first few runs as well but its getting much much better.
The only song Im still not entirely set on, is Headless. I love the groovy sounds, but Chino's singing reminds me a bit too much of Gore - not that I hate that record but you know what I mean. It feels a bit 'aimless' for me, but that could also be because I just havent 'learned' the strange sonic loundscape of it yet. So we'll see how it'll end up.
For now Im still very positive the record is in the top half of the discography for me. This is in no way final - actually it never is - but if you'd put a gun on my head and I had to make a list, it would probably go like this:
White Pony
Diamond Eyes
Ohms
Koi No Yokan
Around the Fur
Self Titled / SNW (tied)
Gore
Adrenaline
Everything from White Pony to (and including) ATF is god-tier for me. Like ultimate classic and above the best works of most other bands I listen to. So that should tell you something.
Which reminds me that I really have to try and learn to appreciate Adrenaline more. Ive listened to it plenty but somehow never really got it (I got into deftones during ATF-days). I want to like it more, we'll see how that goes after the hype for Ohms has settled.
Edit: one other thing I wanted to mention - I'm so glad we have another 'heavy' Deftones record in the discography. Its not straight up metal or anything, and stuff like White Pony is my favorite shit, but Im just glad there's another record besides ATF that I can blast through my speakers when I really want some heavy Deftones stuff. That's very cool.
Adrenaline is 25 years old and not new to you, how will you try and learn to like it? Ive went from loving it to only revisiting it when i crave a track or randomly. Sounds strange to make yourself like something after that long. Can u explain it?
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Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
But my biggest complaint of Gore has been fixed, which is the horrible mixing/production.
really? where can i hear the Gore fix? cause it needs to be mixed/mastered again for sure. i never knew a cleaned up mix Gore exsisted
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:36 PM
At this point im hyped to read vesanics reaction to the album.
Hyped? ::) Wow
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:36 PM
At this point im hyped to read vesanics reaction to the album.
First day: "I'm really enjoying this."
Second day: "Eh it's not as good as the self-titled though is it..."
Third day: "I love Battle Axe."
Just joking around, Ves. I think this will be your favourite post-SNW.
I love Battle-axe.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 24, 2020, 04:41 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 24, 2020, 04:23 PM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
But my biggest complaint of Gore has been fixed, which is the horrible mixing/production.
really? where can i hear the Gore fix? cause it needs to be mixed/mastered again for sure. i never knew a cleaned up mix Gore exsisted
My biggest complaints on Gore has been fixed on Ohms. Thats what I meant.
Quote from: Qwerty1921 on Sep 24, 2020, 04:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 04:25 PM
If Terry produced Gore, it would be as good (or, bit of a hot take here, perhaps even better) than Ohms.
I actually like Gore production. What really brings the album down a bit, for me, is how unachieved a couple songs felt (Xenon, Doomed User). Makes total sense nowadays, regarding the recent interviews and how Chino sort of said that album was rushed.
Stuff like Acid Hologram, Geometric Headdress or Hearts/Wires still ranks among my favorite. Especially the 2nd one, what a banger'
Doomed User could be a classic if Chino's screaming was better on it IMO. Safe to say that Terry knows how to capture Chino's voice in its perfect form better than anyone else in the world. Xenon just needs a bridge and maybe a slightly less compressed guitar tone in the chorus and its good to go IMO.
Acid, Geo and H/W are also favorites of mine from Gore, but if Terry produced them? Fuhgheddaboutit! Error kind of reminds me of Acid and Geo, but with better production.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 04:46 PM
Quote from: Qwerty1921 on Sep 24, 2020, 04:33 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 04:25 PM
If Terry produced Gore, it would be as good (or, bit of a hot take here, perhaps even better) than Ohms.
I actually like Gore production. What really brings the album down a bit, for me, is how unachieved a couple songs felt (Xenon, Doomed User). Makes total sense nowadays, regarding the recent interviews and how Chino sort of said that album was rushed.
Stuff like Acid Hologram, Geometric Headdress or Hearts/Wires still ranks among my favorite. Especially the 2nd one, what a banger'
Doomed User could be a classic if Chino's screaming was better on it IMO. Safe to say that Terry knows how to capture Chino's voice in its perfect form better than anyone else in the world. Xenon just needs a bridge and maybe a slightly less compressed guitar tone in the chorus and its good to go IMO.
Acid, Geo and H/W are also favorites of mine from Gore, but if Terry produced them? Fuhgheddaboutit! Error kind of reminds me of Acid and Geo, but with better production.
I consider Terry Date the 6th member of the band. Kinda.
Hooo boy, this did not sit right with me at first time of asking.
My initial listen was a bit fragmented, because I couldn't hear Urantia, Pompeji, and Radiant City. I'm never the guy who's like 'Where's the metal?' but this time I kind of felt I was, and I hoped those three missing tracks were the key. Fortunately, that kind of turned out to be the case, to varying degrees. Though upon subsequent listens, tracks like Spell are heavier than I first heard, for whatever reason.
So, I had an odd first go through, but the funny thing is, I think that worked out very well for me, because my initial couple of listens are an upwards arc from 'This is well written but a bit soft', to 'yeah this is the happiest I've been since 2004'. When I was first listening, I felt that the writing was 'better' than SNW to Gore, but something wasn't there. I wasn't angry, but I wasn't pleased either. I needed those three tracks to contextualise everything else, I think.
So anyway, I'd obviously heard Ohms and Genesis already, and I went, in order, through Ceremony, Error, Spell, Link, and Headless, and I was a bit underwhelmed by the overall lack of speed, heft or winding vocal melodies. Then I finally did find Urantia, Pompeji and Radiant, and the whole thing glued and I was like 'Oh, thank God'. Then heard it all in order and it just works. My impressions of the album improved significantly.
Track by track:
Genesis - Anything that's fucking quasi-S/T, I'm going to love. Dark Deftones is best Deftones, sorry. S/T is God to me. Love the softer stuff like Entombed and Sextape, sure, but I'm a Battle-Axe boy at the end of the day. I like misery. This is dark, heavy, and miserable, and it's fucking great.
Ceremony - I didn't 'hate' it first time, but I was kind of cynically deadpan like 'Going hard with melodic guitar lines is going to be this album's thing, isn't it?'. Expectations being what they are I just wanted to be kicked in the face with something heavy, and it was a bad first jolt. It's grown on me a lot after a few more listens. Love the bridge. I think it's fair to say that this always has been a band for bridges, though. It's now a solid track to me.
Urantia: Instant hit when I did finally hear it. Much like Pompeji, I love how kind of 'poppy' the vox melody is. This is one of the best tracks on the album. But it's underpinned by heavy riffs too so it's a best of both worlds.
Error: Unfortunately there's usually always one track that's slow to land, and with me it was Error. The first half of this track just strikes me as plodding. The chorus melodies and bridge are fantastic, though. But it might always be a track where I'm kind of... waiting for 2 minutes...
Spell: This is an interesting choice of sound, kind of sultry, like Deathblow. It was one of the tracks I liked most that muddled first time, and it's grown heavier with subsequent tries, despite not being a deliberate riff shithouse.
Pompeji: Fantastic track. Love the accessible verse vox melody and then the bass heavy chorus. The end of this track is basically Deputy Andy crying over the sight of Laura Palmer's body. Seriously Frank's shit at the end of the track is, musically, the saddest part of the album and is mega feels. Probably the album's best track.
This Link is Dead: I loved how 'WGTB' Chino was going here on the mic but I was like 'Man, I wish the guitar was fucking heavy here to match the vox'. It's grown on me a bit more but that first impresison was that the guitars here were just too soft and I was like 'Did Stef dab too hard and forget to foot tap his Distortion?'.
Radiant: I had a massive fucking smile on my face when the guitars kicked in after the bass intro. This is the most fun track. Abe was right. This is the good vibes of the album. (Aside: Abe is Jesus. When Chino's shouting 'Jesus Christ' on Urantia's chorus he's just shouting over to Abe).
Headless: I like how soft and spacey this is, but I have to admit, there's a jokey part of me that's like 'It's Xenon: Second Chance For That Riff Edition'. It's like Xenon's front half fucked Prince's behind.
Ohms: I like it, though I do have a couple of reservations: A) I wish that the intro / outro motif was the main basis for the actual song, B) I think that the 'hit the brakes' transition after the intro is pretty awkward, and C) I reeeeeeeeeally didn't like finding out that this was the last song on the album before release. It's like spoiling an ending. The last song should always be the final discovery of an album listen.
Conclusion: THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TERRY DATE HAPPENS. This is their best album after the classic 4. I'm very happy, despite needing to transcribe my initial gripes above.
Getting the album tomorrow and I'll grab some merch soon.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
You just can't wait to say "two more hours" ;D
pompenji. Chino basically saying if there's a Jesus/God, then he's abandoned us. like look at this mess, do something already. don't think he believes. me either, used to but gave it up 6-7 years ago. never heard him go at God like this, kinda dig it
also "this link is dead" is so cool, it sounds like WGTB's cousin or little brother, lol. because how his vocal effects sound. the music isnt quite as heavy, but it's a banger for sure
not sure yet cause it's so new, but seems this might be the heaviest album they've made since ATF (but it's not always heavy like ATF and adrenaline. just a a bit heavier than s/t )
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 24, 2020, 05:15 PM
pompenji. Chino basically saying if there's a Jesus/God, then he's abandoned us. like look at this mess, do something already. don't think he believes. me either, used to but gave it up 6-7 years ago. never heard him go at God like this, kinda dig it
also "this link is dead" is so cool, it sounds like WGTB's cousin or little brother, lol. because how his vocal effects sound. the music isnt quite as heavy, but it's a banger for sure
not sure yet cause it's so new, but seems this might be the heaviest album they've made since ATF (but it's not always heavy like ATF and adrenaline. just a a bit heavier than s/t )
Heavier than S/T? In what way?
Sounds like Abe's doing 16th note triplets on the kick drum at the end of Ceremony. Unexpected.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 24, 2020, 02:37 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
What was the point? U paid. Not gonna benefit you, just enjoy it dude
Play stupid games, win stupid prices
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Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 24, 2020, 05:15 PM
pompenji. Chino basically saying if there's a Jesus/God, then he's abandoned us. like look at this mess, do something already. don't think he believes. me either, used to but gave it up 6-7 years ago. never heard him go at God like this, kinda dig it
also "this link is dead" is so cool, it sounds like WGTB's cousin or little brother, lol. because how his vocal effects sound. the music isnt quite as heavy, but it's a banger for sure
not sure yet cause it's so new, but seems this might be the heaviest album they've made since ATF (but it's not always heavy like ATF and adrenaline. just a a bit heavier than s/t )
Heavier than S/T? In what way?
the music tends to stay more agressive, and Chino screaming on more songs, and no ballads. minerva, deathblow, lucky you, aoaue, moana, are all ballads/mellow. ohms is the most consistently heavy. but i'm not even sure on this, as i already said. it's too new to me right now
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 24, 2020, 02:37 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
What was the point? U paid. Not gonna benefit you, just enjoy it dude
Play stupid games, win stupid prices
You are such a moron.
I forgot to say, the irony isn't lost on me that despite the trio writing sessions, Frank and Sergio seem to be present as fuck here.
First listen: it's beautiful and well structured, very different. Also the mixing is so good!
I clearly note an 80s vibe in frank's synths and chino's voice, in a good way this time
i still think Ohms (Song) has the best riffs on the album. and i've made up my mind, the video is their best in my opinion (i knew first watch it was top 3 at least)
Radiant city riff probably 2nd best for me
loving the mix also, well done Terry Date. sounds really good loud (unlike Gore. i like the album, but wtf is that mix all about?)
Love ceremony. That driving riff reminds me of ATF and WP.. plus Chino is just gorgeous on it. Been stuck in my head all day. The perfect cruising song. Also love the second half of Error. First half is meh tho...
I feel like a few songs try to be heavy when they didn't need to be. I wish Error was all the second half. No need for the abrasive guitar tones. Just make it a beautiful dreamy song. Same with Spell. I wish they were both mellow and dreamy but a whole time. But I can't complain. What a beauty of a record. Mixed so damn well. Thank you Terry.
I disagree especially on Error. I think the whole song's great. I love how bouncy the groove and the riff is, and I think the vocal melody is really cool. And it means when it switches up, the chorus and the outro parts soar even more to me.
Ceremony's chorus is so catchy
I'm slightly disappointed by the length of the record. I feel another song could have easily fit on it, especially that there is a good 2+ minutes of just synth.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 24, 2020, 06:29 PM
I'm slightly disappointed by the length of the record. I feel another song could have easily fit on it, especially that there is a good 2+ minutes of just synth.
I kinda feel the same.
What's so special about Pompeji ? Apart from the synths, the verse, chorus is repetitive, and vocals don't change much around.
I can say the same for TLID and Radiant City. I feel they could've have done a bit more with 'em. The repetitiveness really irks me, as if there no pay off after the build up
https://www.facebook.com/deftones/posts/10158703301972491
visual tracklist!
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 24, 2020, 06:16 PM
I disagree especially on Error. I think the whole song's great. I love how bouncy the groove and the riff is, and I think the vocal melody is really cool. And it means when it switches up, the chorus and the outro parts soar even more to me.
I really hope I grow to feel the same way. I absolutely love Steph at the end of the track. Some of the best 2 minutes of music they have ever done. Abe kills it too. Love it . Hope the beginning grows on me.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
Well done Ves, I had to crack yesterday. My willpower haven given in!
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 01:01 PM
Ten hours before I can listen to this thing. This ride is a hard one
What was the point? U paid. Not gonna benefit you, just enjoy it dude
Play stupid games, win stupid prices
You are such a moron.
Kinda missed u two going at it :D not that i set that up or anything..... its a really good album V, make your own take
Quote from: mono on Sep 24, 2020, 06:18 PM
Ceremony's chorus is so catchy
Sure is. Sergio rocks this record out
Quote from: pannch on Sep 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
What's so special about Pompeji ? Apart from the synths, the verse, chorus is repetitive, and vocals don't change much around.
I can say the same for TLID and Radiant City. I feel they could've have done a bit more with 'em. The repetitiveness really irks me, as if there no pay off after the build up
You've basically described pretty much every deftones song ever...
Or every song ever, really.
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Ceremony's chorus is so catchy
Sure is. Sergio rocks this record out
Do u hear that digital bath effect by Frank? Its used a couple times on the record i think
I'm going say something maybe sacrilegious, but as much as frank used to be too low in the mix, I feel he is almost too present on this album. *hides*
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I disagree especially on Error. I think the whole song's great. I love how bouncy the groove and the riff is, and I think the vocal melody is really cool. And it means when it switches up, the chorus and the outro parts soar even more to me.
I really hope I grow to feel the same way. I absolutely love Steph at the end of the track. Some of the best 2 minutes of music they have ever done. Abe kills it too. Love it . Hope the beginning grows on me.
I do fully agree with you that the choruses and the second half of the song are the peaks. I think they'd lose the sense of release without the cool, brooding, bouncy build before.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
What's so special about Pompeji ? Apart from the synths, the verse, chorus is repetitive, and vocals don't change much around.
I can say the same for TLID and Radiant City. I feel they could've have done a bit more with 'em. The repetitiveness really irks me, as if there no pay off after the build up
Songs repeat sections. That's usually part of what makes them songs. I'd be more interested reading what you're not quite connecting with in those songs rather than a bland 'repetitive' criticism.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 24, 2020, 07:32 PM
I'm going say something maybe sacrilegious, but as much as frank used to be too low in the mix, I feel he is almost too present on this album. *hides*
WASH YOUR FUCKING MOUTH OUT!
(You might be right, I haven't let this sink in enough to decide whether that might occasionally be the case here).
May have said this but damn Pompeji is a straight up Deftones banger. In my top ten today. My go to
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I disagree especially on Error. I think the whole song's great. I love how bouncy the groove and the riff is, and I think the vocal melody is really cool. And it means when it switches up, the chorus and the outro parts soar even more to me.
I really hope I grow to feel the same way. I absolutely love Steph at the end of the track. Some of the best 2 minutes of music they have ever done. Abe kills it too. Love it . Hope the beginning grows on me.
I do fully agree with you that the choruses and the second half of the song are the peaks. I think they'd lose the sense of release without the cool, brooding, bouncy build before.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
What's so special about Pompeji ? Apart from the synths, the verse, chorus is repetitive, and vocals don't change much around.
I can say the same for TLID and Radiant City. I feel they could've have done a bit more with 'em. The repetitiveness really irks me, as if there no pay off after the build up
Songs repeat sections. That's usually part of what makes them songs. I'd be more interested reading what you're not quite connecting with in those songs rather than a bland 'repetitive' criticism.
Chino hits some pretty high notes after the first chorus that I wish he did again later in the song. So my criticism of Pompeji is it actually isn't repetitive enough.
Is it Frank or guitar on Ceremony's bridge? Can't quite tell.
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 24, 2020, 06:16 PM
I disagree especially on Error. I think the whole song's great. I love how bouncy the groove and the riff is, and I think the vocal melody is really cool. And it means when it switches up, the chorus and the outro parts soar even more to me.
I really hope I grow to feel the same way. I absolutely love Steph at the end of the track. Some of the best 2 minutes of music they have ever done. Abe kills it too. Love it . Hope the beginning grows on me.
I do fully agree with you that the choruses and the second half of the song are the peaks. I think they'd lose the sense of release without the cool, brooding, bouncy build before.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
What's so special about Pompeji ? Apart from the synths, the verse, chorus is repetitive, and vocals don't change much around.
I can say the same for TLID and Radiant City. I feel they could've have done a bit more with 'em. The repetitiveness really irks me, as if there no pay off after the build up
Songs repeat sections. That's usually part of what makes them songs. I'd be more interested reading what you're not quite connecting with in those songs rather than a bland 'repetitive' criticism.
Chino hits some pretty high notes after the first chorus that I wish he did again later in the song. So my criticism of Pompeji is it actually isn't repetitive enough.
Is it Frank or guitar on Ceremony's bridge? Can't quite tell.
Theres always those pick drags either mixed with that effect or its one or the other.... they r both "related" in my head if that makes sense. U talking abt that digital bath/white pony effect right? Same one in Pompeji?
I like it. Happy it's heavy and dark. Impossible to form an actual opinion right now so I'll leave that to form over time. The standout for me on a first listen is The Spell Of Mathematics. It does irk me that as Chino's vocal range gets worse over time, he insists on trying to be more ambitious with it. He ain't pulling half of this shit off live. But yeah, quite happy with the album on a first listen. Very happy to hear Stef getting involved.
Radiant is the track thats really been a grower for me. Im digging it. The main riff ah, a little idk? Love tje chorus and especially the second half. Im getting a feeling that im enjoying the "2nd half" of a lot of these songs more than the first. Its like 15 songs in 10 with a few interludes even though i only listen to it in whole. Cant wait to have it play through with no pause in between on vynil or cassette. Especially excited to play a deftones tape! ::) btw, havent forgotten that genesis to me is one of the best Sergio era songs thus far along w Pompeji and TSOM. Like most it
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 24, 2020, 06:16 PM
I disagree especially on Error. I think the whole song's great. I love how bouncy the groove and the riff is, and I think the vocal melody is really cool. And it means when it switches up, the chorus and the outro parts soar even more to me.
I really hope I grow to feel the same way. I absolutely love Steph at the end of the track. Some of the best 2 minutes of music they have ever done. Abe kills it too. Love it . Hope the beginning grows on me.
I do fully agree with you that the choruses and the second half of the song are the peaks. I think they'd lose the sense of release without the cool, brooding, bouncy build before.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
What's so special about Pompeji ? Apart from the synths, the verse, chorus is repetitive, and vocals don't change much around.
I can say the same for TLID and Radiant City. I feel they could've have done a bit more with 'em. The repetitiveness really irks me, as if there no pay off after the build up
Songs repeat sections. That's usually part of what makes them songs. I'd be more interested reading what you're not quite connecting with in those songs rather than a bland 'repetitive' criticism.
Chino hits some pretty high notes after the first chorus that I wish he did again later in the song. So my criticism of Pompeji is it actually isn't repetitive enough.
Is it Frank or guitar on Ceremony's bridge? Can't quite tell.
Theres always those pick drags either mixed with that effect or its one or the other.... they r both "related" in my head if that makes sense. U talking abt that digital bath/white pony effect right? Same one in Pompeji?
Yeah, the part where Chino sings "The world we share was never there". It does sound a little bit like the Digital Bath water drip effect, so I guess it's Frank. I was thinking it could be a guitar with a crazy effects pedal.
The Ohms video has hit 3 million views. Genesis video is about 15,000 views away from 1 million. It'll get there. They also posted something about a "visual tracklist", so I guess they are doing a similar thing to the DE/WP anniversary Youtube video visualizer thingamajigs?
Not that I'm impatient or anything. I'm thoroughly enjoying this new album, but also curious when we might hear the two other tracks they recorded for this album.
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What's so special about Pompeji ?
It's in 3/4. You can waltz to it.
Quote from: dearthx1 on Sep 24, 2020, 08:19 PM
Not that I'm impatient or anything. I'm thoroughly enjoying this new album, but also curious when we might hear the two other tracks they recorded for this album.
It's gonna be released on the same day Crest will.
and by that, I mean never.
Abe is awesome on the end of Error.
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Quote from: dearthx1 on Sep 24, 2020, 08:19 PM
Not that I'm impatient or anything. I'm thoroughly enjoying this new album, but also curious when we might hear the two other tracks they recorded for this album.
It's gonna be released on the same day Crest will.
and by that, I mean never.
They recorded/completed 10 tracks only from what ive read.... where did u get the 12 tracks recorded from???? Hope i missed something
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 08:46 PM
Abe is awesome on the end of Error.
So WEIRD. As im reading this... im hearing just that! Awesome
I love bow Frank is just present enough on Radiant chorus to give it the perfect emotion. It "steers" the sound in the right direction.
Wish i could move by a "lake" and get so inpired from it that i write a great record and all my fans are satisfied. ;D Jk couldnt help it.
Still getting a "late in the career/ comeback record sound" from Janes Addiction. A lot of the music. Like Ceremony for example. The beginning jamming anyways and then they transform i nto Deftones 2020. Not a rip off, just reminds me
Beyond the gates outside the grid
We follow in your grace
But someday the clouds will break
And we'll all drift through
I love this part at the end of Error.. 👌
anyone wanna post the booket/pages/back of the cd, etc? or would that be considered foul play? cause i gotta wait until sept 29th for my cd(slow amazon is pathetic in this case, i pre ordered it the 4th with 2 day shipping, and they still couldn't figure it out), and i like ruining the surprise
2 more hours
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anyone wanna post the booket/pages/back of the cd, etc? or would that be considered foul play? cause i gotta wait until sept 29th for my cd, and i like ruining the surprise
Would be nice. We have the music, whats the harm?-NONE
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anyone wanna post the booket/pages/back of the cd, etc? or would that be considered foul play? cause i gotta wait until sept 29th for my cd, and i like ruining the surprise
Would be nice. We have the music, whats the harm?-NONE
if big daddy V is cool with it
Not until tomorrow.
Cool. I love to believe some of the things im hearing are what im hearing ;D at least for a moment. I respect it
I felt this OMG Moment when i first heard Pomeji. It was chilling as chilling can chill you. Goosebumps. Those moments are rare and why music is so important. When that song changes immediately to the chorus..... well, yall know wt i mean. FUUUUCK. Id pay for that moment again. What a jam
Enjoy the release day everyone. It'll probably be our last one for another four years.
I expected to be really nitpicky with the album but it's actually settled in really nicely for me for the most part.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 24, 2020, 09:25 PM
Enjoy the release day everyone. It'll probably be our last one for another four years.
Outside of "Black Stallion" I fear you maybe right dude...
You guys don't think the lockdown has given them a huge head start in terms of writing the next album though? I heard they finished writing Ohms like 2 years ago so I imagine they already have like 5-6 new songs in the can, but maybe that's too optimistic.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 24, 2020, 09:25 PM
Enjoy the release day everyone. It'll probably be our last one for another four years.
i can live with that. this wait wasn't that painful. glad i'm not a diehard Tool fan, lol. that must really suck
What's a visual tracklist?
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 24, 2020, 09:49 PM
You guys don't think the lockdown has given them a huge head start in terms of writing the next album though? I heard they finished writing Ohms like 2 years ago so I imagine they already have like 5-6 new songs in the can, but maybe that's too optimistic.
Individual members probably have ideas they've passed around but they've always essentially been a collaborative band, now more than ever. If they haven't been able to meet then they won't have written new songs.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 24, 2020, 09:56 PM
What's a visual tracklist?
A tracklist featuring visuals.
One more hour. I might actually hold off until the YouTube stream since this is how they want to roll it out, could be interesting.
I have to say, Urantia is the only song that's a grower for me. I'm really digging every song on the album, but listening slow so I don't burn anything out just yet.
This is a completely different direction I thought they'd go, yet again. I can't pick just one highlight, but Error, Pompeji and Radiant City are really doing it for me.
Errror has crept up to the top of the fav's for me, had it all around my head all day
Its officially out now in the netherlands. Listening in bed again through spotify. The vinyl will arrive tomorrow. Such a special day <3
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 10:04 PM
One more hour. I might actually hold off until the YouTube stream since this is how they want to roll it out, could be interesting.
Oh whens that gonna be? what time zone?
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 10:04 PM
One more hour. I might actually hold off until the YouTube stream since this is how they want to roll it out, could be interesting.
Oh whens that gonna be? what time zone?
Same Question!
'This Link is Dead' is just what I've been wanting for so long. Chinos phrasing in the verses I fucking love. , i totally understand the WGTB comparisons. I can't think of any other tracks from the last 3 albums matching this kind of aggression in his vocals.
I get fucking chills through that whole song.
Now that im listening again Im really more and more impressed by all the weird melodies and structures and laters. Its so... unorthondox, unpredictable. In that sense it reminds me a lot of White Pony. Im really having a good feeling about my long term bond with this record. Sorry if this sounds to fanboyish, just some thinking aloud ya know.
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One more hour. I might actually hold off until the YouTube stream since this is how they want to roll it out, could be interesting.
Oh whens that gonna be? what time zone?
Same Question!
https://www.facebook.com/deftones/posts/10158703301972491
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 10:04 PM
One more hour. I might actually hold off until the YouTube stream since this is how they want to roll it out, could be interesting.
Oh whens that gonna be? what time zone?
Same Question!
https://www.facebook.com/deftones/posts/10158703301972491
Oh THAT, I thought you meant something separate because you said YT. Is that gonna just be on FB or on YT as well?
Woops. I just assumed YT when I saw that teaser, given the streams they did lately (WP20, DE10).
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 10:43 PM
Woops. I just assumed YT when I saw that teaser, given the streams they did lately (WP20, DE10).
ah ok, no worries. I was like damn how did I miss that?
"Fuck waves, I'm all about lakes and honey now!" - Chino Moreno circa 2020
Won't be able to wait any longer, a few minutes before midnight hits, I'll give it a go. Be cool while mods are gone. ;)
Quote from: Playhouse on Sep 24, 2020, 10:27 PM
'This Link is Dead' is just what I've been wanting for so long. Chinos phrasing in the verses I fucking love. , i totally understand the WGTB comparisons. I can't think of any other tracks from the last 3 albums matching this kind of aggression in his vocals.
I get fucking chills through that whole song.
Absolutely feel the same by far one of my favorite songs ever!!!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 10:53 PM
Won't be able to wait any longer, a few minutes before midnight hits, I'll give it a go. Be cool while mods are gone. ;)
Enjoy it dude, hopefully your patience will be rewarded. Know I'm looking at the clock myself!
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 10:49 PM
"Fuck waves, I'm all about lakes and honey now!" - Chino Moreno circa 2020
lolz. For real? Our boy Chino not singing about earth or waves on this one? C'mon. he said it at least once, right? ;D
Hi all. Long time lurker new time poster. Heard the album and love it! Still too early to tell where it ranks overall, but I thought it would be fun to list every track and pick 1-2 previous Deftones songs it sounds heavily influenced by. Here is my list:
1. Genesis: Rosemary
2. Ceremony: romantic dreams, feiticeira
3. Urantia: Minerva, doomed user
4. Error: swerve city, entombed
5. Spell: acid hologram, Konami code, phantom Bride
6. Pompeji: pink maggit, passenger,
7. This link is dead: hexagram, when girls telephone boys,
8. Radiant city: gore, rocket skates
9. Headless: you've seen the butcher, mascara
10. Ohms: rubicon, prayers/triangles
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Not that I'm impatient or anything. I'm thoroughly enjoying this new album, but also curious when we might hear the two other tracks they recorded for this album.
It's gonna be released on the same day Crest will.
and by that, I mean never.
They recorded/completed 10 tracks only from what ive read.... where did u get the 12 tracks recorded from???? Hope i missed something
It's in this Kerrang article:
https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-secrets-behind-deftones-new-album-inside-the-studio-for-the-first-time/
Says that 12 tracks were worked on with 10 making the album. Doesn't necessarily mean that those two other tracks were completed.
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Quote from: buflen on Sep 24, 2020, 08:36 PM
Quote from: dearthx1 on Sep 24, 2020, 08:19 PM
Not that I'm impatient or anything. I'm thoroughly enjoying this new album, but also curious when we might hear the two other tracks they recorded for this album.
It's gonna be released on the same day Crest will.
and by that, I mean never.
They recorded/completed 10 tracks only from what ive read.... where did u get the 12 tracks recorded from???? Hope i missed something
It's in this Kerrang article:
https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-secrets-behind-deftones-new-album-inside-the-studio-for-the-first-time/
Says that 12 tracks were worked on with 10 making the album. Doesn't necessarily mean that those two other tracks were completed.
Thank u. I read this and missed it like i thought! Thanks
I understand why they do it but I really wish bands wouldn't release singles before an album drops or just limit it to 1. I don't even listen to Genesis or Ohms because I've played them out. It's like I just got an 8 song album but those 8 songs are straight fire.
Lakes and "ledges" radiant and headless love the ledge. Love those ledges myself
Quote from: SquealLikeaPig on Sep 24, 2020, 11:34 PM
I understand why they do it but I really wish bands wouldn't release singles before an album drops or just limit it to 1. I don't even listen to Genesis or Ohms because I've played them out. It's like I just got an 8 song album but those 8 songs are straight fire.
I felt like the context of the rest of the album made Genesis and Ohms (particularly Ohms) even more enjoyable for me. I wasn't sure about Ohms as a closer when I first heard it, but with the rest of the album I think it's a perfect fit.
Anyone else hitting F5 for the Vesanic review? No? Just me? *F5*
does the Album come out at midnite tonight if you pre-ordered it?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 10:04 PM
One more hour. I might actually hold off until the YouTube stream since this is how they want to roll it out, could be interesting.
they are live streaming the album tonight?
mrpelon94 midnight EST
Beutiful feelings! Happy deftones new album release day!
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 10:04 PM
One more hour. I might actually hold off until the YouTube stream since this is how they want to roll it out, could be interesting.
they are live-streaming the album tonight?
mrpelon94 midnight EST
cool
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I disagree especially on Error. I think the whole song's great. I love how bouncy the groove and the riff is, and I think the vocal melody is really cool. And it means when it switches up, the chorus and the outro parts soar even more to me.
I really hope I grow to feel the same way. I absolutely love Steph at the end of the track. Some of the best 2 minutes of music they have ever done. Abe kills it too. Love it . Hope the beginning grows on me.
I do fully agree with you that the choruses and the second half of the song are the peaks. I think they'd lose the sense of release without the cool, brooding, bouncy build before.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
What's so special about Pompeji ? Apart from the synths, the verse, chorus is repetitive, and vocals don't change much around.
I can say the same for TLID and Radiant City. I feel they could've have done a bit more with 'em. The repetitiveness really irks me, as if there no pay off after the build up
Songs repeat sections. That's usually part of what makes them songs. I'd be more interested reading what you're not quite connecting with in those songs rather than a bland 'repetitive' criticism.
Yeah I guess I didn't articulate it properly. Songs do repeat sections (duh, I know that too), but what I am getting at is that there is no "touchdown" or "resolve", or even if its there, its not convincing enough (by that I mean a certain variation or an inclusion of a passage that signifies a shift or the end or the middle is particularly absent or is a bit weak and unconvincing).
Now since these "signposts" are not there at all or are not immediately recognizable, it keeps me hanging, and by that time the song is done.
I dunno if I can go on more than this 😅. I hope you get to what I am saying by just listening to those tracks.
[SPOILER ALERT FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN REGIONS WHERE IT'S NOT RELEASED YET]
I didn't really want to review it, kinda feel compelled for some reason.
Keep in mind this is my opinion, fresh off the first listen (which is probably a terrible idea), after I heard the two singles and most of Chino's stream in microphone quality. I also never review music.
Pros:
The band is back in a strong fashion. All of these cuts have something interesting to them, the flow is surprisingly steady and keeps the listener intrigued from start to end. "Ceremony" has one of the catchiest choruses I've heard them do, without falling in a cliche of formulaic composition (to which I see no problem, I just know Deftones care a lot about that). I didn't feel like skipping a single track, I enjoyed them all in a way or another.
"The Spell of Mathematics" still comes to me as the stand out. It is the one song I really, really like from start to end. The second part of the song is the kind of Deftones I wish I could hear more. Ever since songs like "Fist" or "U, U, (etc.)", or the SNW demos, or just about every time I listen to a Deftones instrumental, I have always wanted to see the full potential of this band as a full-on instrumental piece. The bridge of "Genesis", and a couple of moments I couldn't memorise, only reaffirm that wish. The use of the 9-string is really obvious on "The Spell (...)" and makes a lot of sense. The song is majestic!
"This Link is Dead" comes as the angriest song we've heard Deftones do since "Rats!". God damn does it feel good to hear Chino properly SCREAM again even for just a bit, as opposed to shouting in a bunch of saturating filters (sorry Chino, this is just my opinion, and I obviously wouldn't know what it's like to be a vocalist). This is definitely one of the most experimental things they did, the songs go in a variety of influences and styles, probably the biggest distance I've heard them walk through the spectrum.
The chorus of "Headless" had me headnodding big time. The synth solo, as I had already heard on Chino's stream, almost made me cry. They can still create doomy, heartfelt atmospheres while being subtle about it instead out outpouring obvious emotions in your ears. I saw someone drawing a similarity between "Headless" and "Rubicon" and it's no wonder: a specific part of it sounds EXACTLY THE SAME as the couple of seconds before the latter instrumental ending ("oooooh").
The opening riff of "Pompeji" is some of stuff I wish we could hear more. There's just something profoundly Deftones about it. The roll down of the song is very interesting, but that's the stuff I'd loop over and over like an autistic. Would be a beautiful sample.
Vocally, Chino taps more into his oldschool crooning than he did on the post-Chi trinity. That appeals to me because I feel it's just something he's great at. And as stated, some of the screaming performance felt absolutely amazing.
Instrumentally very diverse, very, very well composed, measured. You can tell they were very organised and all of them really into this. As a fan, it's only good things. I'm so happy my favorite band is still making music, and this album will see them riding a beautiful wave, I'm most assured!
Ohms feels like a beautiful, well-planned musical trip through many sonic soundscapes, lots of them are new and absolutely well executed in the case of Deftones.
The title track has become a favorite in the album now hearing it in context. Releasing it and "Genesis" as the singles were awesome moves, as they give you a sense of familiarity and thus, reassurance, as people like me, who have heard those, go through the full record for the first time.
Cons:
I just don't like the mix. Abe is too much in the back of the mix yet again. Where's that pop? I can't hear it. His even simpler drumming on Adrenaline or Around the Fur always amazed me by its presence and its sonic fidelity. There is almost nothing like that on Ohms in my opinion (don't get pissed, it's just my opinion). It is definitely an improvement from Gore, but this is not even close to what I expected from them working with Terry Date. And I'd be bold to criticise Terry's work: I think that's the best he could achieve with Sergio replacing Chi. Don't get me wrong: Sergio is a great bassist, I respect and admire his contribution as a band member and the enormity of the challenge in replacing Chi. I guess a part of me will never get used to pick-play over fingerplay. The sound of the band used to bathe in Chi's sound, now the bass is a complementary layer. I'll just never get used to that, this warm sound was, to me, essential to their sound. That's not saying they didn't do their best and the album is bad.
I actually like Chino's performance a lot on the record, but I'm not a fan of how loud he is on almost the entirety of the record. I don't feel like there is enough room for the music to breathe. I saw a couple of comparisons made between "When Girls Telephone Boys" and "This Link is Dead", and I think they're bogus: "WGTB" had Chino properly losing his mind screaming, the vocal effect was there only to add grit to it, the way I see it at least. "This Link is Dead" feels like the filter was put there to make sure Chino sounded heavy. And I guess I selfishly wish Chino would become again the vocalist he was during the "White Pony" days. It might be just me but the high notes on "Error" felt like Chino actually wanted to go full head voice, a la "Digital Bath", "Birthmark" or the end of "Root", instead of falsetto. I miss that stunning aspect to his vocal performance. Again, that's not to say it is bad. I just honestly have been more amazed with Chino in the past, and of course I'm just proud of that history, as a fan. I think his performance was great nonetheless and he should be really proud of it.
I didn't really feel anything listening to "Radiant City", although I enjoyed it to an extent. I wasn't really feeling "Urantia" on the leak, and that's not really changed. Probably my least favourite of the bunch.
Strongest cuts:
- The Spell of Mathematics
- Ceremony
- Headless
- Error
- Ohms
- The synth interlude of Pompeji
Ones I might skip over time:
- Urantia
- Radiant City
Again, that was my review off the first listen of the full thing. I hate reviews, but there you go. I won't compare it to other albums or anything. The fact Deftones are still making music is most amazing and this is beyond what fans could expect from a band with such longevity. I honestly would be very happy if they called it quits and this was their exit piece, obviously I hope it isn't!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 25, 2020, 12:52 AM
[SPOILER ALERT FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN REGIONS WHERE IT'S NOT RELEASED YET]
I didn't really want to review it, kinda feel compelled for some reason.
Keep in mind this is my opinion, fresh off the first listen (which is probably a terrible idea), after I heard the two singles and most of Chino's stream in microphone quality. I also never review music.
Pros:
The band is back in a strong fashion. All of these cuts have something interesting to them, the flow is surprisingly steady and keeps the listener intrigued from start to end. "Ceremony" has one of the catchiest choruses I've heard them do, without falling in a cliche of formulaic composition (to which I see no problem, I just know Deftones care a lot about that). I didn't feel like skipping a single track, I enjoyed them all in a way or another.
"The Spell of Mathematics" still comes to me as the stand out. It is the one song I really, really like from start to end. The second part of the song is the kind of Deftones I wish I could hear more. Ever since songs like "Fist" or "U, U, (etc.)", or the SNW demos, or just about every time I listen to a Deftones instrumental, I have always wanted to see the full potential of this band as a full-on instrumental piece. The bridge of "Genesis", and a couple of moments I couldn't memorise, only reaffirm that wish. The use of the 9-string is really obvious on "The Spell (...)" and makes a lot of sense. The song is majestic!
"This Link is Dead" comes as the angriest song we've heard Deftones do since "Rats!". God damn does it feel good to hear Chino properly SCREAM again even for just a bit, as opposed to shouting in a bunch of saturating filters (sorry Chino, this is just my opinion, and I obviously wouldn't know what it's like to be a vocalist). This is definitely one of the most experimental things they did, the songs go in a variety of influences and styles, probably the biggest distance I've heard them walk through the spectrum.
The chorus of "Headless" had me headnodding big time. The synth solo, as I had already heard on Chino's stream, almost made me cry. They can still create doomy, heartfelt atmospheres while being subtle about it instead out outpouring obvious emotions in your ears. I saw someone drawing a similarity between "Headless" and "Rubicon" and it's no wonder: a specific part of it sounds EXACTLY THE SAME as the couple of seconds before the latter instrumental ending ("oooooh").
The opening riff of "Pompeji" is some of stuff I wish we could hear more. There's just something profoundly Deftones about it. The roll down of the song is very interesting, but that's the stuff I'd loop over and over like an autistic. Would be a beautiful sample.
Vocally, Chino taps more into his oldschool crooning than he did on the post-Chi trinity. That appeals to me because I feel it's just something he's great at. And as stated, some of the screaming performance felt absolutely amazing.
Instrumentally very diverse, very, very well composed, measured. You can tell they were very organised and all of them really into this. As a fan, it's only good things. I'm so happy my favorite band is still making music, and this album will see them riding a beautiful wave, I'm most assured!
Ohms feels like a beautiful, well-planned musical trip through many sonic soundscapes, lots of them are new and absolutely well executed in the case of Deftones.
The title track has become a favorite in the album now hearing it in context. Releasing it and "Genesis" as the singles were awesome moves, as they give you a sense of familiarity and thus, reassurance, as people like me, who have heard those, go through the full record for the first time.
Cons:
I just don't like the mix. Abe is too much in the back of the mix yet again. Where's that pop? I can't hear it. His even simpler drumming on Adrenaline or Around the Fur always amazed me by its presence and its sonic fidelity. There is almost nothing like that on Ohms in my opinion (don't get pissed, it's just my opinion). It is definitely an improvement from Gore, but this is not even close to what I expected from them working with Terry Date. And I'd be bold to criticise Terry's work: I think that's the best he could achieve with Sergio replacing Chi. Don't get me wrong: Sergio is a great bassist, I respect and admire his contribution as a band member and the enormity of the challenge in replacing Chi. I guess a part of me will never get used to pick-play over fingerplay. The sound of the band used to bathe in Chi's sound, now the bass is a complementary layer. I'll just never get used to that, this warm sound was, to me, essential to their sound. That's not saying they didn't do their best and the album is bad.
I actually like Chino's performance a lot on the record, but I'm not a fan of how loud he is on almost the entirety of the record. I don't feel like there is enough room for the music to breathe. I saw a couple of comparisons made between "When Girls Telephone Boys" and "This Link is Dead", and I think they're bogus: "WGTB" had Chino properly losing his mind screaming, the vocal effect was there only to add grit to it, the way I see it at least. "This Link is Dead" feels like the filter was put there to make sure Chino sounded heavy. And I guess I selfishly wish Chino would become again the vocalist he was during the "White Pony" days. It might be just me but the high notes on "Error" felt like Chino actually wanted to go full head voice, a la "Digital Bath", "Birthmark" or the end of "Root", instead of falsetto. I miss that stunning aspect to his vocal performance. Again, that's not to say it is bad. I just honestly have been more amazed with Chino in the past, and of course I'm just proud of that history, as a fan. I think his performance was great nonetheless and he should be really proud of it.
I didn't really feel anything listening to "Radiant City", although I enjoyed it to an extent. I wasn't really feeling "Urantia" on the leak, and that's not really changed. Probably my least favourite of the bunch.
Strongest cuts:
- The Spell of Mathematics
- Ceremony
- Headless
- Error
- Ohms
- The synth interlude of Pompeji
Ones I might skip over time:
- Urantia
- Radiant City
Again, that was my review off the first listen of the full thing. I hate reviews, but there you go. I won't compare it to other albums or anything. The fact Deftones are still making music is most amazing and this is beyond what fans could expect from a band with such longevity. I honestly would be very happy if they called it quits and this was their exit piece, obviously I hope it isn't!
I 100 % agree with your review of the mix. The first time I heard the title track I was like "why isn't the snare loud enough as it was in WP and SNW ?"
good review Ves
only a few more hours for me... I'm literally foaming at the mouth rn
i'll have to listen for Abe's drums more next time i listen to the album. i'm always focused on Chino and the guitars, but really after Chino and his unqie voice, lyrics/style and his awesome vocal range (4 octaves, 2-1/2 notes) Abe is clearly the 2nd most talented, and is well above average drummer. he's a cyborg! and i do miss hearing him crystal clear. i know the drums sounded great on the first 4 albums. maybe drums are hard to get right in a mix? so this is a big improvement mix wise, but was Abe left out a bit? hmmm
Good stuff Ves, well written and articulate. Still got about 2 1/2 hours here, gonna be a late night! So excited and optimistic!
Cheers mate, respect for waiting! Enjoy the record
Quote from: theataraxian on Sep 24, 2020, 11:50 PM
Anyone else hitting F5 for the Vesanic review? No? Just me? *F5*
I'm not quite F5 territory, but I am extremely curious. More than anything I just hope he enjoys it. God knows he's been through hell this last month dealing with all of us. I'm almost certain there will be at least a few songs that will make it all worth it for him. Or so I hope
Edit-there it is:)
That was a great review, Vesanic. Urantia was a song I was kind of neutral to on my first listen, and now it's one of my favourites lol.
People talking about the mix and everything just makes me glad that the whole thing is lost on me. I can listen to Gore and not really tell the difference in how they're mixed. Which is a good thing for me, since it means none of that can ruin an album for me like Gore did for a lot of people, sadly.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 25, 2020, 01:28 AM
Good stuff Ves, well written and articulate. Still got about 2 1/2 hours here, gonna be a late night! So excited and optimistic!
west coast?
Quote from: BallZDeeP on Sep 25, 2020, 01:43 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 25, 2020, 01:28 AM
Good stuff Ves, well written and articulate. Still got about 2 1/2 hours here, gonna be a late night! So excited and optimistic!
west coast?
East Coast US
By the way, the new Sol Invicto is BANGING.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 25, 2020, 01:58 AM
By the way, the new Sol Invicto is BANGING.
where ... how... when... what?
Quote from: Draken on Sep 25, 2020, 02:04 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 25, 2020, 01:58 AM
By the way, the new Sol Invicto is BANGING.
where ... how... when... what?
I gotchu fam
https://solinvicto.techitch.com/track/a-reason-for-being
Quote from: theataraxian on Sep 25, 2020, 02:05 AM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 25, 2020, 02:04 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 25, 2020, 01:58 AM
By the way, the new Sol Invicto is BANGING.
where ... how... when... what?
I gotchu fam
https://solinvicto.techitch.com/track/a-reason-for-being
props
dang that's groovy, is it just one song so far?
Two more hours
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 02:10 AM
Two more hours
Are you in the "blue balls squad" as well? ;D
Ugh, I have the album in FLAC just waiting on my computer, but I'm going to hold out until WB sends me my damn digital download at midnight. I'm waiting until my gf gets home from work and the midnight hour brings in my birthday. Woo I'm so excited... (I'm so excited I'm doing Chino "WOOs")
Four and a half star review from AllMusic:
https://www.allmusic.com/album/ohms-mw0003419200
Quote from: Draken on Sep 25, 2020, 02:15 AM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 02:10 AM
Two more hours
Are you in the "blue balls squad" as well? ;D
Ugh, I have the album in FLAC just waiting on my computer, but I'm going to hold out until WB sends me my damn digital download at midnight. I'm waiting until my gf gets home from work and the midnight hour brings in my birthday. Woo I'm so excited... (I'm so excited I'm doing Chino "WOOs")
Not fully, but it's getting a midnight start to finish listen for sure.
Deftones community right now
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/120106033_3412270292165566_6567895594797417032_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=0d2lHCqM5EoAX_nrYbe&_nc_ht=scontent-amt2-1.xx&oh=cff92dda1a1d9bf33ed992915d81d236&oe=5F9452D8)
Great review Ves. Incredibly impressed you were able to hold out.
Only thing i disagree with is your review of his vox in Link and Error. (although i always seem to disagree with your take on his chino's vox hehe)
I've actually always thought they also used that filter in WGTB for the same reason your saying they used it in Link. To make it sound heavier lol
I agree WGTB does sound more like 'losing his mind screaming'. For me in Link i guess he sounds like hes 'still in control of his mind screaming but in pain' hahaha
I also definitely miss that stunning ability of his to go into the digital bath head voice. But I guess i know that was 20 years ago so I don't hang onto that as a negative aspect to this record.
Im curious, do you think hes still able to do this vocally? (This is a genuine question, no sarcasm intended)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 25, 2020, 02:25 AM
Deftones community right now
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/120106033_3412270292165566_6567895594797417032_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=0d2lHCqM5EoAX_nrYbe&_nc_ht=scontent-amt2-1.xx&oh=cff92dda1a1d9bf33ed992915d81d236&oe=5F9452D8)
Hahaha, that's marvelous.
92 on Metacritic, the third highest rated album of 2020:
https://www.metacritic.com/music/ohms/deftones
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 02:24 AM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 25, 2020, 02:15 AM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 02:10 AM
Two more hours
Are you in the "blue balls squad" as well? ;D
Ugh, I have the album in FLAC just waiting on my computer, but I'm going to hold out until WB sends me my damn digital download at midnight. I'm waiting until my gf gets home from work and the midnight hour brings in my birthday. Woo I'm so excited... (I'm so excited I'm doing Chino "WOOs")
Not fully, but it's getting a midnight start to finish listen for sure.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3ohfFE19LpU939JqHC/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47qcw9ckfhxhtc2hdawvbygh33oshhxxkm107smlpu&rid=giphy.gif)
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 02:28 AM
92 on Metacritic, the third highest rated album of 2020:
https://www.metacritic.com/music/ohms/deftones
The sputnikmusic review is well written. Now, I ain't that of a huge fan of WP, but them stating Ohms being better than WP ? Hmmm dunno about that
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 25, 2020, 12:52 AM
[SPOILER ALERT FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN REGIONS WHERE IT'S NOT RELEASED YET]
I didn't really want to review it, kinda feel compelled for some reason.
Keep in mind this is my opinion, fresh off the first listen (which is probably a terrible idea), after I heard the two singles and most of Chino's stream in microphone quality. I also never review music.
Pros:
The band is back in a strong fashion. All of these cuts have something interesting to them, the flow is surprisingly steady and keeps the listener intrigued from start to end. "Ceremony" has one of the catchiest choruses I've heard them do, without falling in a cliche of formulaic composition (to which I see no problem, I just know Deftones care a lot about that). I didn't feel like skipping a single track, I enjoyed them all in a way or another.
"The Spell of Mathematics" still comes to me as the stand out. It is the one song I really, really like from start to end. The second part of the song is the kind of Deftones I wish I could hear more. Ever since songs like "Fist" or "U, U, (etc.)", or the SNW demos, or just about every time I listen to a Deftones instrumental, I have always wanted to see the full potential of this band as a full-on instrumental piece. The bridge of "Genesis", and a couple of moments I couldn't memorise, only reaffirm that wish. The use of the 9-string is really obvious on "The Spell (...)" and makes a lot of sense. The song is majestic!
"This Link is Dead" comes as the angriest song we've heard Deftones do since "Rats!". God damn does it feel good to hear Chino properly SCREAM again even for just a bit, as opposed to shouting in a bunch of saturating filters (sorry Chino, this is just my opinion, and I obviously wouldn't know what it's like to be a vocalist). This is definitely one of the most experimental things they did, the songs go in a variety of influences and styles, probably the biggest distance I've heard them walk through the spectrum.
The chorus of "Headless" had me headnodding big time. The synth solo, as I had already heard on Chino's stream, almost made me cry. They can still create doomy, heartfelt atmospheres while being subtle about it instead out outpouring obvious emotions in your ears. I saw someone drawing a similarity between "Headless" and "Rubicon" and it's no wonder: a specific part of it sounds EXACTLY THE SAME as the couple of seconds before the latter instrumental ending ("oooooh").
The opening riff of "Pompeji" is some of stuff I wish we could hear more. There's just something profoundly Deftones about it. The roll down of the song is very interesting, but that's the stuff I'd loop over and over like an autistic. Would be a beautiful sample.
Vocally, Chino taps more into his oldschool crooning than he did on the post-Chi trinity. That appeals to me because I feel it's just something he's great at. And as stated, some of the screaming performance felt absolutely amazing.
Instrumentally very diverse, very, very well composed, measured. You can tell they were very organised and all of them really into this. As a fan, it's only good things. I'm so happy my favorite band is still making music, and this album will see them riding a beautiful wave, I'm most assured!
Ohms feels like a beautiful, well-planned musical trip through many sonic soundscapes, lots of them are new and absolutely well executed in the case of Deftones.
The title track has become a favorite in the album now hearing it in context. Releasing it and "Genesis" as the singles were awesome moves, as they give you a sense of familiarity and thus, reassurance, as people like me, who have heard those, go through the full record for the first time.
Cons:
I just don't like the mix. Abe is too much in the back of the mix yet again. Where's that pop? I can't hear it. His even simpler drumming on Adrenaline or Around the Fur always amazed me by its presence and its sonic fidelity. There is almost nothing like that on Ohms in my opinion (don't get pissed, it's just my opinion). It is definitely an improvement from Gore, but this is not even close to what I expected from them working with Terry Date. And I'd be bold to criticise Terry's work: I think that's the best he could achieve with Sergio replacing Chi. Don't get me wrong: Sergio is a great bassist, I respect and admire his contribution as a band member and the enormity of the challenge in replacing Chi. I guess a part of me will never get used to pick-play over fingerplay. The sound of the band used to bathe in Chi's sound, now the bass is a complementary layer. I'll just never get used to that, this warm sound was, to me, essential to their sound. That's not saying they didn't do their best and the album is bad.
I actually like Chino's performance a lot on the record, but I'm not a fan of how loud he is on almost the entirety of the record. I don't feel like there is enough room for the music to breathe. I saw a couple of comparisons made between "When Girls Telephone Boys" and "This Link is Dead", and I think they're bogus: "WGTB" had Chino properly losing his mind screaming, the vocal effect was there only to add grit to it, the way I see it at least. "This Link is Dead" feels like the filter was put there to make sure Chino sounded heavy. And I guess I selfishly wish Chino would become again the vocalist he was during the "White Pony" days. It might be just me but the high notes on "Error" felt like Chino actually wanted to go full head voice, a la "Digital Bath", "Birthmark" or the end of "Root", instead of falsetto. I miss that stunning aspect to his vocal performance. Again, that's not to say it is bad. I just honestly have been more amazed with Chino in the past, and of course I'm just proud of that history, as a fan. I think his performance was great nonetheless and he should be really proud of it.
I didn't really feel anything listening to "Radiant City", although I enjoyed it to an extent. I wasn't really feeling "Urantia" on the leak, and that's not really changed. Probably my least favourite of the bunch.
Strongest cuts:
- The Spell of Mathematics
- Ceremony
- Headless
- Error
- Ohms
- The synth interlude of Pompeji
Ones I might skip over time:
- Urantia
- Radiant City
Again, that was my review off the first listen of the full thing. I hate reviews, but there you go. I won't compare it to other albums or anything. The fact Deftones are still making music is most amazing and this is beyond what fans could expect from a band with such longevity. I honestly would be very happy if they called it quits and this was their exit piece, obviously I hope it isn't!
Respect of your opinion v, but whip it out bc here comes the lips!
Quote from: Draken on Sep 25, 2020, 02:32 AM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 02:24 AM
Quote from: Draken on Sep 25, 2020, 02:15 AM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 02:10 AM
Two more hours
Are you in the "blue balls squad" as well? ;D
Ugh, I have the album in FLAC just waiting on my computer, but I'm going to hold out until WB sends me my damn digital download at midnight. I'm waiting until my gf gets home from work and the midnight hour brings in my birthday. Woo I'm so excited... (I'm so excited I'm doing Chino "WOOs")
Not fully, but it's getting a midnight start to finish listen for sure.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3ohfFE19LpU939JqHC/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47qcw9ckfhxhtc2hdawvbygh33oshhxxkm107smlpu&rid=giphy.gif)
May have to go for some midnight coffee and cherry pie
Quote from: Draken on Sep 25, 2020, 02:15 AM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 02:10 AM
Two more hours
Are you in the "blue balls squad" as well? ;D
Ugh, I have the album in FLAC just waiting on my computer, but I'm going to hold out until WB sends me my damn digital download at midnight. I'm waiting until my gf gets home from work and the midnight hour brings in my birthday. Woo I'm so excited... (I'm so excited I'm doing Chino "WOOs")
Happy bday and WOOOOOH! Bday plus GF =? Plus new Deftones? Good at math but as easy as that one is, u gotta figure that one out tourself bud
Quote from: pannch on Sep 25, 2020, 02:37 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 02:28 AM
92 on Metacritic, the third highest rated album of 2020:
https://www.metacritic.com/music/ohms/deftones
The sputnikmusic review is well written. Now, I ain't that of a huge fan of WP, but them stating Ohms being better than WP ? Hmmm dunno about that
Yeah, I dunno about it too. I honestly don't know where I'd rank Ohms in their discography, too early to make that call. There's a lot of newer DT fans on there I think, so their newer stuff seems to more praised than a lot of their older stuff (besides Gore). They also really underrate the shit out of S/T.
Speaking of Gore, this NME ranking of all the albums put it over Koi, Andrenaline, SNW and ATF...I respect the troll lol:
https://www.nme.com/features/deftones-every-single-album-ranked-and-rated-2760407
Did anyone who lives in the states receive any sort of update or shipping confirmation on your vinyl bundle? i've received nothing
Don't know if this was posted yet.
https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-rock-interviews/deftones-talk-new-album-ohms?fbclid=IwAR1Ed-5RwO9XOhIT1vrChDwlRD38PtR2Rt_SLT7ZrvSPY9cbZHlspMm70bo
TSOM was the last song written for the album - in the studio, after abe and sergio were just messing around and chino sneakily said to record them from the other room :)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 25, 2020, 12:52 AM
[SPOILER ALERT FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN REGIONS WHERE IT'S NOT RELEASED YET]
I didn't really want to review it, kinda feel compelled for some reason.
Keep in mind this is my opinion, fresh off the first listen (which is probably a terrible idea), after I heard the two singles and most of Chino's stream in microphone quality. I also never review music.
Pros:
The band is back in a strong fashion. All of these cuts have something interesting to them, the flow is surprisingly steady and keeps the listener intrigued from start to end. "Ceremony" has one of the catchiest choruses I've heard them do, without falling in a cliche of formulaic composition (to which I see no problem, I just know Deftones care a lot about that). I didn't feel like skipping a single track, I enjoyed them all in a way or another.
"The Spell of Mathematics" still comes to me as the stand out. It is the one song I really, really like from start to end. The second part of the song is the kind of Deftones I wish I could hear more. Ever since songs like "Fist" or "U, U, (etc.)", or the SNW demos, or just about every time I listen to a Deftones instrumental, I have always wanted to see the full potential of this band as a full-on instrumental piece. The bridge of "Genesis", and a couple of moments I couldn't memorise, only reaffirm that wish. The use of the 9-string is really obvious on "The Spell (...)" and makes a lot of sense. The song is majestic!
"This Link is Dead" comes as the angriest song we've heard Deftones do since "Rats!". God damn does it feel good to hear Chino properly SCREAM again even for just a bit, as opposed to shouting in a bunch of saturating filters (sorry Chino, this is just my opinion, and I obviously wouldn't know what it's like to be a vocalist). This is definitely one of the most experimental things they did, the songs go in a variety of influences and styles, probably the biggest distance I've heard them walk through the spectrum.
The chorus of "Headless" had me headnodding big time. The synth solo, as I had already heard on Chino's stream, almost made me cry. They can still create doomy, heartfelt atmospheres while being subtle about it instead out outpouring obvious emotions in your ears. I saw someone drawing a similarity between "Headless" and "Rubicon" and it's no wonder: a specific part of it sounds EXACTLY THE SAME as the couple of seconds before the latter instrumental ending ("oooooh").
The opening riff of "Pompeji" is some of stuff I wish we could hear more. There's just something profoundly Deftones about it. The roll down of the song is very interesting, but that's the stuff I'd loop over and over like an autistic. Would be a beautiful sample.
Vocally, Chino taps more into his oldschool crooning than he did on the post-Chi trinity. That appeals to me because I feel it's just something he's great at. And as stated, some of the screaming performance felt absolutely amazing.
Instrumentally very diverse, very, very well composed, measured. You can tell they were very organised and all of them really into this. As a fan, it's only good things. I'm so happy my favorite band is still making music, and this album will see them riding a beautiful wave, I'm most assured!
Ohms feels like a beautiful, well-planned musical trip through many sonic soundscapes, lots of them are new and absolutely well executed in the case of Deftones.
The title track has become a favorite in the album now hearing it in context. Releasing it and "Genesis" as the singles were awesome moves, as they give you a sense of familiarity and thus, reassurance, as people like me, who have heard those, go through the full record for the first time.
Cons:
I just don't like the mix. Abe is too much in the back of the mix yet again. Where's that pop? I can't hear it. His even simpler drumming on Adrenaline or Around the Fur always amazed me by its presence and its sonic fidelity. There is almost nothing like that on Ohms in my opinion (don't get pissed, it's just my opinion). It is definitely an improvement from Gore, but this is not even close to what I expected from them working with Terry Date. And I'd be bold to criticise Terry's work: I think that's the best he could achieve with Sergio replacing Chi. Don't get me wrong: Sergio is a great bassist, I respect and admire his contribution as a band member and the enormity of the challenge in replacing Chi. I guess a part of me will never get used to pick-play over fingerplay. The sound of the band used to bathe in Chi's sound, now the bass is a complementary layer. I'll just never get used to that, this warm sound was, to me, essential to their sound. That's not saying they didn't do their best and the album is bad.
I actually like Chino's performance a lot on the record, but I'm not a fan of how loud he is on almost the entirety of the record. I don't feel like there is enough room for the music to breathe. I saw a couple of comparisons made between "When Girls Telephone Boys" and "This Link is Dead", and I think they're bogus: "WGTB" had Chino properly losing his mind screaming, the vocal effect was there only to add grit to it, the way I see it at least. "This Link is Dead" feels like the filter was put there to make sure Chino sounded heavy. And I guess I selfishly wish Chino would become again the vocalist he was during the "White Pony" days. It might be just me but the high notes on "Error" felt like Chino actually wanted to go full head voice, a la "Digital Bath", "Birthmark" or the end of "Root", instead of falsetto. I miss that stunning aspect to his vocal performance. Again, that's not to say it is bad. I just honestly have been more amazed with Chino in the past, and of course I'm just proud of that history, as a fan. I think his performance was great nonetheless and he should be really proud of it.
I didn't really feel anything listening to "Radiant City", although I enjoyed it to an extent. I wasn't really feeling "Urantia" on the leak, and that's not really changed. Probably my least favourite of the bunch.
Strongest cuts:
- The Spell of Mathematics
- Ceremony
- Headless
- Error
- Ohms
- The synth interlude of Pompeji
Ones I might skip over time:
- Urantia
- Radiant City
Again, that was my review off the first listen of the full thing. I hate reviews, but there you go. I won't compare it to other albums or anything. The fact Deftones are still making music is most amazing and this is beyond what fans could expect from a band with such longevity. I honestly would be very happy if they called it quits and this was their exit piece, obviously I hope it isn't!
Great first listen review, Ves. I am keen to hear what you have to say after a few more listens.
From the official critics' point of view, this thing is going to look like white pony or better at least for the near future. This has nothing to do with my opinion but just looking around at all the reviews and scores that I expect most of you have been looking at, they are just slaying it with their scores....(Its in your face nowadays) people who have never heard of them hopefully catch on to this record for the band's sake. I think it's awesome for them that's all I'm saying bc i love and respect this group of musicians more than any other musical collab of all time. Even the motherfucking WUTANG CLAN. Deftones for life.... Amen
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 25, 2020, 02:55 AM
Did anyone who lives in the states receive any sort of update or shipping confirmation on your vinyl bundle? i've received nothing
Me neither. Slightly worried to be honest.
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Two more hours
Are you in the "blue balls squad" as well? ;D
Ugh, I have the album in FLAC just waiting on my computer, but I'm going to hold out until WB sends me my damn digital download at midnight. I'm waiting until my gf gets home from work and the midnight hour brings in my birthday. Woo I'm so excited... (I'm so excited I'm doing Chino "WOOs")
Not fully, but it's getting a midnight start to finish listen for sure.
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May have to go for some midnight coffee and cherry pie
hell yeah ;)
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Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 25, 2020, 02:55 AM
Did anyone who lives in the states receive any sort of update or shipping confirmation on your vinyl bundle? i've received nothing
Not yet here either.
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Two more hours
Are you in the "blue balls squad" as well? ;D
Ugh, I have the album in FLAC just waiting on my computer, but I'm going to hold out until WB sends me my damn digital download at midnight. I'm waiting until my gf gets home from work and the midnight hour brings in my birthday. Woo I'm so excited... (I'm so excited I'm doing Chino "WOOs")
Happy bday and WOOOOOH! Bday plus GF =? Plus new Deftones? Good at math but as easy as that one is, u gotta figure that one out tourself bud
thanks, you never know... someone posted a comment on the Genesis video about raising their kids on Deftones and I commented back that I might be MAKING some kids on this album.
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Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 25, 2020, 02:55 AM
Did anyone who lives in the states receive any sort of update or shipping confirmation on your vinyl bundle? i've received nothing
Not yet here either.
Nada
as in nada damn thing...
Ohms music video has 3M views and Genesis has 1M. That's incredible, and well deserved.
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92 on Metacritic, the third highest rated album of 2020:
https://www.metacritic.com/music/ohms/deftones
The sputnikmusic review is well written. Now, I ain't that of a huge fan of WP, but them stating Ohms being better than WP ? Hmmm dunno about that
Yeah, I dunno about it too. I honestly don't know where I'd rank Ohms in their discography, too early to make that call. There's a lot of newer DT fans on there I think, so there newer stuff seems to more praised than a lot of their older stuff (besides Gore). They also really underrate the shit out of S/T.
Speaking of Gore, this NME ranking of all the albums put it over Koi, Andrenaline, SNW and ATF...I respect the troll lol:
https://www.nme.com/features/deftones-every-single-album-ranked-and-rated-2760407
NME ranking Gore over ATF
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Think chino started raising bees in his late career following Hetfield? Haha honey honey honey
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92 on Metacritic, the third highest rated album of 2020:
https://www.metacritic.com/music/ohms/deftones
The sputnikmusic review is well written. Now, I ain't that of a huge fan of WP, but them stating Ohms being better than WP ? Hmmm dunno about that
Yeah, I dunno about it too. I honestly don't know where I'd rank Ohms in their discography, too early to make that call. There's a lot of newer DT fans on there I think, so there newer stuff seems to more praised than a lot of their older stuff (besides Gore). They also really underrate the shit out of S/T.
Speaking of Gore, this NME ranking of all the albums put it over Koi, Andrenaline, SNW and ATF...I respect the troll lol:
https://www.nme.com/features/deftones-every-single-album-ranked-and-rated-2760407
NME ranking Gore over ATF
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Out of this world review and ranking. I gotta go and shit/puke same time after that..... never mind who cares? (With a glance of the order)just my humble mumbo jumbo
U can split error literally in half and give me the latter
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 02:28 AM
92 on Metacritic, the third highest rated album of 2020:
https://www.metacritic.com/music/ohms/deftones
The sputnikmusic review is well written. Now, I ain't that of a huge fan of WP, but them stating Ohms being better than WP ? Hmmm dunno about that
Yeah, I dunno about it too. I honestly don't know where I'd rank Ohms in their discography, too early to make that call. There's a lot of newer DT fans on there I think, so there newer stuff seems to more praised than a lot of their older stuff (besides Gore). They also really underrate the shit out of S/T.
Speaking of Gore, this NME ranking of all the albums put it over Koi, Andrenaline, SNW and ATF...I respect the troll lol:
https://www.nme.com/features/deftones-every-single-album-ranked-and-rated-2760407
NME ranking Gore over ATF
(https://i.redd.it/5r2358npx1h51.jpg)
Out of this world review and ranking. I gotta go and shit/puke same time after that..... never mind who cares? (With a glance of the order)
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 02:28 AM
92 on Metacritic, the third highest rated album of 2020:
https://www.metacritic.com/music/ohms/deftones
The sputnikmusic review is well written. Now, I ain't that of a huge fan of WP, but them stating Ohms being better than WP ? Hmmm dunno about that
Yeah, I dunno about it too. I honestly don't know where I'd rank Ohms in their discography, too early to make that call. There's a lot of newer DT fans on there I think, so there newer stuff seems to more praised than a lot of their older stuff (besides Gore). They also really underrate the shit out of S/T.
Speaking of Gore, this NME ranking of all the albums put it over Koi, Andrenaline, SNW and ATF...I respect the troll lol:
https://www.nme.com/features/deftones-every-single-album-ranked-and-rated-2760407
NME ranking Gore over ATF
(https://i.redd.it/5r2358npx1h51.jpg)
Out of this world review and ranking. I gotta go and shit/puke same time after that..... never mind who cares? (With a glance of the order)
That review was hilarious, cmon. Word salad to the max until he tired himself out :) It's my favourite so far LOL
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 25, 2020, 03:29 AM
U can split error literally in half and give me the latter
Error's chorus is catchy as fuck. Also, I really like that almost 'The shape of punk to come' vibe of 'This Link is Dead' into 'Radiant City' as a one-two punch at the moment.
TSOM - Abe. U sexy fucking beast you. Some drumming there i cant decipher just yet
boy here we go again, listening in high quality finally
this album is so damn good..... for real.... Headless is so beautiful....
also, can we talk about how Radiant City goes just very slightly slower for the outro riff? instant stank face moment right there
Dear God, such a long wait nearly over. Cautiously optimistic after everyone's feedback here. My Band's about to truly be back!!!
https://www.deftones.com/ohmsvisualtracklist
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 25, 2020, 03:50 AM
Dear God, such a long wait nearly over. Cautiously optimistic after everyone's feedback here. My Band's about to truly be back!!!
My advice is to just listen to it like it's one huge deftones song. Don't be skipping about until you've heard it at least 5 or 6 time times in row. It really works as a full piece/ record from start to finish.
PS -Well done for holding out :) Absolute legend - I don't know how you did it :) Smoking DMT in an isolation tank?
We're here guys. We did it. We have a new fucking Deftones album.
2020 redeemed.
lol, j.k 2020 still fucking sucks but Deftones made it slightly more bearable.
I hope everyone who waited this long to hear the record, get what they deserve: a great experience listening to it. Hope you all enjoy it! Cheers.
Let's celebrate everyone, it's been a long and arduous journey, but we're finally here! Hats off to those listening for the first time, I couldn't be more excited for you guys. You're in for a real treat
It's exciting to read all of the positive initial reviews. I'm sure the band is really stoked and deservedly so.
its happening the album disappeared from iTunes ..prob updated it to be released
Cheers boys 🍻
Quote from: mrpelon94 on Sep 25, 2020, 04:32 AM
its happening the album disappeared from iTunes ..prob updated it to be released
Lol my iTunes download stopped half way through the second song but I'm listening on Amazon Music.
Oh wow, the bass at the very end of ceremony is amazing.
Since its out in the wild, did anybody receive an email for the digital download here in the US ?
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WTF is this? This is awesome, whatever it is. Each "card" takes you to a song from Ohms. Wow. They really went all out with this release......https://www.deftones.com/ohmsvisualtracklist
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Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 25, 2020, 03:43 AM
boy here we go again, listening in high quality finally
this album is so damn good..... for real.... Headless is so beautiful....
also, can we talk about how Radiant City goes just very slightly slower for the outro riff? instant stank face moment right there
Yeah i'm def experiencing new things listenting to this in high quality. What a treat.
TSOM, Ceremony and Headless are the ones for me.
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Since its out in the wild, did anybody receive an email for the digital download here in the US ?
Not yet but then again I haven't gotten a shipping notification yet either
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boy here we go again, listening in high quality finally
this album is so damn good..... for real.... Headless is so beautiful....
also, can we talk about how Radiant City goes just very slightly slower for the outro riff? instant stank face moment right there
Yeah i'm def experiencing new things listenting to this in high quality. What a treat.
TSOM, Ceremony and Headless are the ones for me.
Same here
I was hoping one track of the ten would find its way into my top 5 Deftones songs. So far the clear contender for this is Headless
976-Evil.......curious on your opinion of the album. I can't believe you and some others did it and held out till the end.
My favorite song was Radiant City probably, just there are so many strong tracks on this album it really feels like it changes. Urantia might actually be my favorite at this point. so, so good!
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 25, 2020, 05:06 AM
I was hoping one track of the ten would find its way into my top 5 Deftones songs. So far the clear contender for this is Headless
That one is definitely a standout track for me. The chorus is beautiful and my god the guitars on the verse are huge.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 25, 2020, 04:54 AM
Since its out in the wild, did anybody receive an email for the digital download here in the US ?
I never even got an email for Genesis.
Yes, Headless is a flat-out amazing song. That "ooh, your attempt is useless" part might be some of the trippiest sounds they've ever come up with, every time I hear it I think my brain is gonna explode. Guess that's why they call it Headless. *bows*
These visualizers are really dope. Warner Bros. really did a fantastic job promoting this album and I hope it sells well.
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its happening the album disappeared from iTunes ..prob updated it to be released
Lol my iTunes download stopped half way through the second song but I'm listening on Amazon Music.
lol
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Since its out in the wild, did anybody receive an email for the digital download here in the US ?
Same, I mailed them abt this, and they sent both ohms single and Genesis
I never even got an email for Genesis.
I sent them a mail abt this, after that they sent genesis along with ohms single
My god the chorus to Headless is incredible. One of those classic Chino vocal melodies that only he could conjure up.
I guess the 9 string may have been used for the chorus of Headless since it sounds so huge, Same for the chorus of TSOM, love how chunky it sounds
each song appears as a Tarot card on their website at https://www.deftones.com/ohmsvisualtracklist
from this tweet, I suppose these were the working titles for the songs
https://twitter.com/deftones/status/1309350101131821056
my two favorites are "The Hand" and "The World" lmao
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 25, 2020, 05:45 AM
each song appears as a Tarot card on their website at https://www.deftones.com/ohmsvisualtracklist
from this tweet, I suppose these were the working titles for the songs
https://twitter.com/deftones/status/1309350101131821056
my two favorites are "The Hand" and "The World" lmao
That board lists 9 songs though
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 25, 2020, 05:45 AM
each song appears as a Tarot card on their website at https://www.deftones.com/ohmsvisualtracklist
from this tweet, I suppose these were the working titles for the songs
https://twitter.com/deftones/status/1309350101131821056
my two favorites are "The Hand" and "The World" lmao
Google "Mexican bingo cards", I think that's actually what they are and not tarot cards.
Still holding out somehow. Want to settle down later in the day with a beer and completely absorb it.
Headless is growing on me.......at first I didn't care for it...but man it's growing and FAST.
Hey guys, a little off topic I guess but did anyone ask Chino about Team Sleep in any of the new interviews???
I don't see many people commenting on Urantia. But for me it's a masterpiece. One of their best songs ever. I hope it's the next single.
OKAY...I need to center and hit Reset.
Gonna confess some shit, this Album like most Tones Records every one has moved me...Ohms differently.
The Groove is unmistakable, Chino is on point. Pure Fucking Deftones! I'm 50 this year just like a few of the boys in the band. Terry Date's Ears should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Every Record for me, as the Band, as us All, is a Snapshot in Time. This Message is just what I needed! Steph, Abe, Frank and Serge have created a Gift I'm so thankful to Open!
The "10" uninterrupted minutes of Pomp and Dead combined might be the greatest in Deftones History.
So yeah, outside of that the Album sucks...
Still can't got the second half of Ceremony out of my my head. What a fucking killer track.
Still don't quite see what others are seeing in Urantia lol. It's good. But I'm surprised so many seem to be in love with it.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 25, 2020, 06:41 AM
OKAY...I need to center and hit Reset.
I feel this. We all get hyped about new Deftones. A lot of it though is trying to make ourselves think we like it more than maybe we actually do.
Ohms though is so good, you start thinking shit like "is this a top 3 album? No. Can't be. I'm just too hype right now"
Whether or not this is a top 3 album will be purely subjective. But Ohms just *feels* different than anything they've done in a long, long time. Not sounds, but feels. I'm glad I took a few days off work for this. I am so glad you enjoy it :D
This 100%
Ohms, Genesis, Ceremony, Urantia, and Pompeji are my stand outs. I immediately gravitated towards them, on a first time listen.
Radiant City as well, to a lesser extent.
Ok, I'm coming around to Error as well. Second listening. lol
I don't know if anyone listens to these messages but I'm calling about DEFTONES!!!!
Urantia might be the catchiest song they've ever done, it's like Chino pretending he's in Duran Duran while you've got Steph chirping in with a dirty riff just to remind you who this band is. I heard the terrible quality version of this and thought I would end up hating it but I think it might be one of my favourite Deftones songs ever.
Pompeji is one of those tracks where on first listen I couldn't wrap my head around it but now I can't stop listening to it.
I'm impressed at how well the album flows, it might be one of their best overall. The only track I was a bit underwhelmed by is TLID, mainly because everyone was raving about it. That, and the rest of the album surprised me. I love the heavy bass but Stefs riffs don't really pop in the way I was hoping on that song. I like the track, but for the song with Chino's most aggressive and in your face vocals I would have expected a nastier riff. I think people went a bit OTT with their descriptions of that one. Still good, but not WGTB heavy like people said. It reminds me of a more aggressive Epic by FNM, like a bass led rap rock kinda groove. Still the sort of song they've not made in a long time so a welcome return. I just wish the main guitar riff was a bit more prominent like on something like Lotion or hexagram.
I love Error too, very early pumpkins esque but still it's own thing. The whole album is pretty great which is such a relief given that the expectation levels were so high. It will be interesting to see where people rank it once it's lived with us for a year or two.
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 25, 2020, 07:58 AM
I don't know if anyone listens to these messages but I'm calling about DEFTONES!!!!
I hear you loud and clear!!
It's great to hear peoples favourite songs initially are all different.
Just keep listening from start to finish, don't trap yourself in :)
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I don't know if anyone listens to these messages but I'm calling about DEFTONES!!!!
I hear you loud and clear!!
Haha. An immortal message.
On my 6th listen this morning, while waiting for the album to arrive on vinyl here.
Still i love with the album. Finding more appreciation for the first half of the record after the second half clicked instantly.
On the spell of mathematics right now and the verses remind me a bit of What Happened to You?
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Depends what you ordered, some of the vinyls have been pushed back 3-ish weeks for the UK. ( I'm not sure where/ or what vendor you ordered from though.
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Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Depends what you ordered, some of the vinyls have been pushed back 3-ish weeks for the UK. ( I'm not sure where/ or what vendor you ordered from though.
Well my gold vinyl shipped 2 days ago, so that should arrive today from Crash Records. I pre ordered the bundles from the official UK store, but not had any shipping confirmation
Ohms Triple Cassette Bundle was shipped yesterday
Sergio on Ceremony.
Ohms closes the album perfectly. My love for this song has increased tenfold.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 08:30 AM
It's great to hear peoples favourite songs initially are all different.
Just keep listening from start to finish, don't trap yourself in :)
actually have legitimate concern about what I'm going to do on my 15-minute drive to work. I have yet to listen to one song over another. It's literally just spinning this album constantly. There's not a moment that I want to skip. I might just have to leave for work early and listen to the whole album before I clock in every day LOL. it's just mind-blowing how crazy the hype was for this album and for most people it met or exceeded that hype. even if it's not a top album for you I imagine it's a welcome return to form for basically every fan.
I really do not get the appeal to Urantia. Pompeji and Mathematics are where it's at for me. Oh and Headless.
And I'll say it again, the synth solo is one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard.
Pompeji is absolutely perfect in the middle of this. That synth soundscape gives you space to breath.
Quote from: stu_101 on Sep 25, 2020, 09:08 AM
Ohms closes the album perfectly. My love for this song has increased tenfold.
This absolutely. Like I already said, releasing those songs as singles really paid off especially Ohms. The guitar is beautiful.
Urantia is amazing, it keeps getting better and better for me
a banger!
Hi everyone (sorry for my English), I haven't posted for a very long time, Gore kind of killed the hype for me...
But Ohms... wow.
The boys are back... thanks to Terry Date. What an album. Call me crazy but I think it's one of their best.
Not because it has ALL the best songs of their entire discography in it but because it's cohesive from beginning to end, with a real identity + the songs are fantastic.
Groove, energy, melodies, brutal, sensual, fresh, original and a unique atmosphere.
Tbh not everything is perfect of course but that's not what comes out here. There are finally no forced ballads, no useless interludes or songs that seem unfinished.
It's a journey from point A (Genesis) to point B (Ohms), what makes the record (IMO) the most cohesive and solid album with Diamond Eyes (with no songs to skip).
Don't get me wrong: some of their best songs are elsewhere if you listen song by song separately (more precisely on ST, WP, SNW and ATF) but the band sometimes gets lost exploring too far, trying too hard, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't (Pink Cellphone, Lucky You, Teenager, Pittura Infamante, Xenon... and many more) and leave you with the feeling that some tracks are pointless or not finished.
I don't feel that way with DE and Ohms.
Maybe it will evolve with time and again it's just my opinion.
Here's my ranking :
01- DE
02- Ohms
03- ATF
04- ST
05- WP
06- KNY
07- SNW
08- Adrenaline
09- Gore
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Nothing at all mate.
Ooo they're playing The Spell Of Mathematics on BBC 6 Music at 10:40am! Nice!
Headless is the only song I haven't totally connected with. I'll give it a few shots, but, as of now, it's the low point of an amazing album!
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Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Nothing at all mate.
My orders are still showing as Packing/Not Shipped on the UK official store. I ordered the CD/tshirt bundle and the cassette bundle in two separate orders. The digital download is available on the order page now though.
Quote from: IN WAVES on Sep 25, 2020, 09:48 AM
Headless is the only song I haven't totally connected with. I'll give it a few shots, but, as of now, it's the low point of an amazing album!
This was me yesterday, but today its finally growing on me.
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Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Nothing at all mate.
My orders are still showing as Packing/Not Shipped on the UK official store. I ordered the CD/tshirt bundle and the cassette bundle in two separate orders. The digital download is available on the order page now though.
Ok, thanks lads!
There's so much to unpack in this album.
During my first full listen through, I really didn't know what to make of it and, initially, wasn't feeling too enthusiastic about it - it really wasn't what I was expecting it to be but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what exactly I was expecting.
Fortunately, it's greatness began to reveal itself on the second, third and fourth listens. I think each band member bring so much to this album but I must mention Sergio's playing is particularly impressive, especially on Ceremony.
I said this before but I think that the sequencing of the tracks works obscenely well and this album is just clever, generally.
Time needs to pass etc but my feeling is that this is a classic album and will be considered so in years to come which is just crazy considering this is album number nine for the band - I can also see it becoming a personal all time favourite album.
Can't really pick out favourites at the moment but, if pushed, I'd have to say 'Headless', 'This Link Is Dead', 'The Spell of Mathematics' and, oh fuck it, all of them.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 09:59 AM
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Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Nothing at all mate.
My orders are still showing as Packing/Not Shipped on the UK official store. I ordered the CD/tshirt bundle and the cassette bundle in two separate orders. The digital download is available on the order page now though.
Ok, thanks lads!
*cough* and lasses *cough* ;D
Oh and my wife's COVID test came back negative so this is a really good day. Wow, just listening to the ending of 'Error'. Wow.
I didn't click with Ceremony at first but had it blasting in the car this morning and found myself joining with the OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH. Now it's there ;D Big up to Sergio on that track definitely!
Quote from: Shells on Sep 25, 2020, 10:06 AM
I didn't click with Ceremony at first but had it blasting in the car this morning and found myself joining with the OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH. Now it's there ;D Big up to Sergio on that track definitely!
Yes, definitely! He's superb on that track but on the album in general. His playing has really grabbed me on this album.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 10:05 AM
Oh and my wife's COVID test came back negative so this is a really good day. Wow, just listening to the ending of 'Error'. Wow.
Great news, dude.
Quote from: Shells on Sep 25, 2020, 10:02 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 09:59 AM
Quote from: Shells on Sep 25, 2020, 09:52 AM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 09:39 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
Nothing at all mate.
My orders are still showing as Packing/Not Shipped on the UK official store. I ordered the CD/tshirt bundle and the cassette bundle in two separate orders. The digital download is available on the order page now though.
Ok, thanks lads!
*cough* and lasses *cough* ;D
sorry, and lasses!
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 25, 2020, 09:52 AM
Quote from: IN WAVES on Sep 25, 2020, 09:48 AM
Headless is the only song I haven't totally connected with. I'll give it a few shots, but, as of now, it's the low point of an amazing album!
This was me yesterday, but today its finally growing on me.
I'm there! I like it now. I like it a lot! This album is f*cking awesome!
Aaaaand got it!
(https://i.imgur.com/G5EVZf3.jpg)
Dunno if it was still needed, but here are the lyrics. Saw some folks asking for it:
(https://i.imgur.com/qHkt8IM.jpg)
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 10:00 AM
There's so much to unpack in this album.
During my first full listen through, I really didn't know what to make of it and, initially, wasn't feeling too enthusiastic about it - it really wasn't what I was expecting it to be but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what exactly I was expecting.
Fortunately, it's greatness began to reveal itself on the second, third and fourth listens. I think each band member bring so much to this album but I must mention Sergio's playing is particularly impressive, especially on Ceremony.
I said this before but I think that the sequencing of the tracks works obscenely well and this album is just clever, generally.
Time needs to pass etc but my feeling is that this is a classic album and will be considered so in years to come which is just crazy considering this is album number nine for the band - I can also see it becoming a personal all time favourite album.
Can't really pick out favourites at the moment but, if pushed, I'd have to say 'Headless', 'This Link Is Dead', 'The Spell of Mathematics' and, oh fuck it, all of them.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 10:00 AM
There's so much to unpack in this album.
During my first full listen through, I really didn't know what to make of it and, initially, wasn't feeling too enthusiastic about it - it really wasn't what I was expecting it to be but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what exactly I was expecting.
Fortunately, it's greatness began to reveal itself on the second, third and fourth listens. I think each band member bring so much to this album but I must mention Sergio's playing is particularly impressive, especially on Ceremony.
I said this before but I think that the sequencing of the tracks works obscenely well and this album is just clever, generally.
Time needs to pass etc but my feeling is that this is a classic album and will be considered so in years to come which is just crazy considering this is album number nine for the band - I can also see it becoming a personal all time favourite album.
Can't really pick out favourites at the moment but, if pushed, I'd have to say 'Headless', 'This Link Is Dead', 'The Spell of Mathematics' and, oh fuck it, all of them.
I had a similar reaction. I also wasn't sure what to expect, specially with everyone comparing it to different albums of theirs. Only about half the album clicked on the first listen, and then I picked up the rest after a few spins.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 25, 2020, 10:30 AM
Aaaaand got it!
(https://i.imgur.com/G5EVZf3.jpg)
Dunno if it was still needed, but here are the lyrics. Saw some folks asking for it:
(https://i.imgur.com/qHkt8IM.jpg)
Nice photography!!
Quote from: IN WAVES on Sep 25, 2020, 10:39 AM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 10:00 AM
There's so much to unpack in this album.
During my first full listen through, I really didn't know what to make of it and, initially, wasn't feeling too enthusiastic about it - it really wasn't what I was expecting it to be but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what exactly I was expecting.
Fortunately, it's greatness began to reveal itself on the second, third and fourth listens. I think each band member bring so much to this album but I must mention Sergio's playing is particularly impressive, especially on Ceremony.
I said this before but I think that the sequencing of the tracks works obscenely well and this album is just clever, generally.
Time needs to pass etc but my feeling is that this is a classic album and will be considered so in years to come which is just crazy considering this is album number nine for the band - I can also see it becoming a personal all time favourite album.
Can't really pick out favourites at the moment but, if pushed, I'd have to say 'Headless', 'This Link Is Dead', 'The Spell of Mathematics' and, oh fuck it, all of them.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 10:00 AM
There's so much to unpack in this album.
During my first full listen through, I really didn't know what to make of it and, initially, wasn't feeling too enthusiastic about it - it really wasn't what I was expecting it to be but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what exactly I was expecting.
Fortunately, it's greatness began to reveal itself on the second, third and fourth listens. I think each band member bring so much to this album but I must mention Sergio's playing is particularly impressive, especially on Ceremony.
I said this before but I think that the sequencing of the tracks works obscenely well and this album is just clever, generally.
Time needs to pass etc but my feeling is that this is a classic album and will be considered so in years to come which is just crazy considering this is album number nine for the band - I can also see it becoming a personal all time favourite album.
Can't really pick out favourites at the moment but, if pushed, I'd have to say 'Headless', 'This Link Is Dead', 'The Spell of Mathematics' and, oh fuck it, all of them.
I had a similar reaction. I also wasn't sure what to expect, specially with everyone comparing it to different albums of theirs. Only about half the album clicked on the first listen, and then I picked up the rest after a few spins.
Man, when it hits, it really hits. Glad you're enjoying it.
There's so much going on in every song. I really love the album's cohesiveness.
Why no mention of Urantia, guys? This is one of their best songs ever, I don't get it.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 25, 2020, 11:37 AM
Why no mention of Urantia, guys? This is one of their best songs ever, I don't get it.
It's great, that chorus is tops.
And I've never heard any band utilise a thrash riff in such a way before.
Just so people don't blitz through Ohms too much straight away, there's a lot of good albums out today. New Bob Mould, The Ocean, Sufjan Stevens, Idles, Jamie Lenman, Svalbard and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head. I don't know how I'm going to get around to it all.
Ceremony is the weakest one for me atm
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 11:48 AM
Just so people don't blitz through Ohms too much straight away, there's a lot of good albums out today. New Bob Mould, The Ocean, Sufjan Stevens, Idles, Jamie Lenman, Svalbard and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head. I don't know how I'm going to get around to it all.
The ocean's 'Phanerozoic II...' is absolutely massive! Im completely hooked to it.
This week has been a good one for new music, for sure!!
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 11:48 AM
Just so people don't blitz through Ohms too much straight away, there's a lot of good albums out today. New Bob Mould, The Ocean, Sufjan Stevens, Idles, Jamie Lenman, Svalbard and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head. I don't know how I'm going to get around to it all.
The ocean's 'Phanerozoic II...' is absolutely massive! Im completely hooked to it.
This week has been a good one for new music, for sure!!
Haven't got to that one yet but really looking forward to it later.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 11:48 AM
Just so people don't blitz through Ohms too much straight away, there's a lot of good albums out today. New Bob Mould, The Ocean, Sufjan Stevens, Idles, Jamie Lenman, Svalbard and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head. I don't know how I'm going to get around to it all.
Im diggin new Fleet Foxes
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 25, 2020, 11:37 AM
Why no mention of Urantia, guys? This is one of their best songs ever, I don't get it.
I kept seeing people rave about Urantia and Error but they were two of my least favorite tracks on it.
Then something clicked this morning. I dunno. Maybe I needed to be hungover or something but I'm digging them as much as anything else on the album now lol.
Ceremony and TLID are still my absolute favs on this though.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
In work but seems like my CD and cassettes have turned up. Not heard anything about everything else from UK store.
Gold vinyl was dispatched from Banquet on Wednesday. Still waiting on that.
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Quote from: Gaz on Sep 25, 2020, 08:26 AM
Still no email about the UK bundle pre orders, anyone had anything yet?
In work but seems like my CD and cassettes have turned up. Not heard anything about everything else from UK store.
Gold vinyl was dispatched from Banquet on Wednesday. Still waiting on that.
My gold one arrived this afternoon, but still nothing from the official store, emailed them to ask what's happening but no response yet
Quote from: Frankz0r on Sep 25, 2020, 12:14 PM
Ceremony is the weakest one for me atm
It was for me at first, too. I even almost forgot about it after the first couple listens. But then something clicked and I love it now.
If you take out the vocals, and certain parts like the intro and the bridge, the song sounds like it belongs on ATF to me.
In terms of live songs, I'd like to hear
Genesis
Urantia
Spell of Mathematics
Radiant City
Ohms
I like Genesis, Ceremony, TSOM, TLID and Radiant City. Need more listens for Error, Pompeji and Headless.
Urantia's riff sounds like someone dicking around or the intro to a UFC fight, not into it.
Had another complete listen in the gym while working out, and pretty much all songs click with me now. Im starting to notice the details more, like the Digital Bath-esque sound on Ceremony, or both TSOM and Pompeji having long outros that are pretty awesome - followed by the creepy as fuck synth intro by Frank.
Also, the visual pictures with the songs on Spotify add a lot of cool vibes to the thing.
Really feeling the album gets better with each listen. Incredible.
Urantia outro could go on and on. I kind of wish it broke into a full-on gallop at the very end tbh.
Quote from: Frankz0r on Sep 25, 2020, 12:14 PM
Ceremony is the weakest one for me atm
:o :o :o
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 02:56 AM
Don't know if this was posted yet.
https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-rock-interviews/deftones-talk-new-album-ohms?fbclid=IwAR1Ed-5RwO9XOhIT1vrChDwlRD38PtR2Rt_SLT7ZrvSPY9cbZHlspMm70bo
TSOM was the last song written for the album - in the studio, after abe and sergio were just messing around and chino sneakily said to record them from the other room :)
he also said there was a finished song(musically) that he tried and tried to make lyrics and melodies for, but just couldn't get there and had to walk away. so there went our 11th song, lol.
I would like to see them play the album in it's entirety at some point, I think that would be cool. Having said that, maybe as a special thing for their own post-covid headline shows, they could do 45 mins for this and then 45 min- 1 hour medley of their past hits, I think that would be a good show format.
Quote from: Ihateallofmyfriends on Sep 25, 2020, 03:20 PM
I would like to see them play the album in it's entirety at some point, I think that would be cool. Having said that, maybe as a special thing for their own post-covid headline shows, they could do 45 mins for this and then 45 min- 1 hour medley of their past hits, I think that would be a good show format.
Would absolutely love this, but i cant see it happening lol.
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Quote from: Ihateallofmyfriends on Sep 25, 2020, 03:20 PM
I would like to see them play the album in it's entirety at some point, I think that would be cool. Having said that, maybe as a special thing for their own post-covid headline shows, they could do 45 mins for this and then 45 min- 1 hour medley of their past hits, I think that would be a good show format.
Would absolutely love this, but i cant see it happening lol.
Yeah, just wishful thinking on my part. Although if Sergio does pay attention to what the fans say on social media, if we talk about it enough maybe it will convince them to do it ;D But sadly unlikely haha
Radiant City and Headless are now the songs spinning round my head.
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).
I feel like Stephen is the weak link on TSOM, unfortunately. It feels like he doesn't add much to the song, which is a shame because the other four basically give flawless performances on it.
Given it a handful of listens now. It's such a complex album to me, so it makes me feel like it's super accessible but at the same time one that will take waaaay more listens for it to sink in.
A sign of a great album.
Time will determine where it sits in their discography but it'll be up there for sure.
what, that 9-string groove is everything on that song
Things i didn't know about this record going in:
quest guitarist brian "head" welch is playing the chords in the intro & verse in "error"
quest guitarist bill corgan is playing the intro to pompeji.
guest keyboardist angel adalamenti,known from david lynch films, is playing the synth-outro to pompeij.
can't find a source to this but no way in hell it ain't them.
it's a very weird album.it's upbeat and super-catchy sounding,but at the same time- the melodies chino comes up with are unconventional
and out of the ordinary which makes it ultra non-catchy.can't hear a hit single here.i usually like sad/miserable/pissed off deftones, but this stuff fucking rocks after two listens.no chills besides genesis,but i just love the production and how everyone in the band sounds here.yes there is some 90ies stuff on here, but mostly 80-ies stuff mixed with deftones 2020 id say. i'm pleased.
best songs so far- genesis,pompeji,this link is dead,ceremony. no skipable shit songs were noted.
question:do you think you will think of SARS-CoV-2 when hearing this album in 20 years?
Don't trip, guys, just my opinion.
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 25, 2020, 04:21 PM
Given it a handful of listens now. It's such a complex album to me, so it makes me feel like it's super accessible but at the same time one that will take waaaay more listens for it to sink in.
A sign of a great album.
Time will determine where it sits in their discography but it'll be up there for sure.
Yeah, I definitely feel like it's one of their more complex. I've listened to it numerous times and I enjoy it quite a bit but I feel like I still haven't fully wrapped my head around it yet.
One of the things I'm noticing is it feels like the songs take their time building, as opposed to, say, the more simple, to the point songs on Diamond Eyes. Maybe due to the longer time lengths?
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).
I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
Stayed up late last night listening to the new album. WOW... click play below for my review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FrpuPLYnvY&list=PLMyztl9rKFp9ZztVDCso2eZHkluQJBLrj&index=124
SPELL
OF
MATH
MATICS 8)
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Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).
I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
Woah steady there.
The atmosphere created on the verses on Pompeji is next level.
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Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).
I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
Woah steady there.
can "change" even be considered a true hit? i mean it was played a good amount for a year, but after that i haven't heard it on the radio ever again, like NEVER ever EVER EVER again. they've never had a hit that the radio deemed worthy to immortalize. their hits get played (mostly after midnight) for a few months when the records are new, then never EVER again, like ever ever never. they kind of are the biggest underground band. no hits, but 3 platinum albums and 1 gold, 10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans
The verse of Pompeji sounds like the verse of Phantom Bride.
Also, if Frank wants to make a solo synth record I'm all for it.
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Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).
I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
ya'll crazy
Ceremony is where it's at :P
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 25, 2020, 04:50 PM
Also, if Frank wants to make a solo synth record I'm all for it.
Hell yeah! That would be an instant purchase for me.
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 25, 2020, 04:50 PM
The verse of Pompeji sounds like the verse of Phantom Bride.
I thought the same thing
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Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).
I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
Woah steady there.
can change even be considered a true hit? i mean it was played a good amount for a year, but after that i haven't heard it on the radio ever again, like NEVER ever EVER EVER again. they've never had a hit that the radio deemed worthy to immortalize. their hits get played (mostly after midnight) for a few months, then never EVER again, like ever ever never
I'd say it's a hit. Whenever I look at live clips on Instagram during tours it's always change and my own summer.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans
Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
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Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans
Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world
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Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).
I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
Woah steady there.
can "change" even be considered a true hit? i mean it was played a good amount for a year, but after that i haven't heard it on the radio ever again, like NEVER ever EVER EVER again. they've never had a hit that the radio deemed worthy to immortalize. their hits get played (mostly after midnight) for a few months when the records are new, then never EVER again, like ever ever never. they kind of are the biggest underground band. no hits, but 3 platinum albums and 1 gold, 10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans
Change is still played on the local rock station where I live, and it was on the Little Nicky and Queen of the Damned soundtrack, as well as some TV shows.
Change is a hit. It might not get mega radio play but it's a hit alright. The sort of song that's recognisable to rock and alternative fans of that era who may not have really listened to the band.
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Quote from: nineteen on Sep 25, 2020, 04:21 PM
Given it a handful of listens now. It's such a complex album to me, so it makes me feel like it's super accessible but at the same time one that will take waaaay more listens for it to sink in.
A sign of a great album.
Time will determine where it sits in their discography but it'll be up there for sure.
Yeah, I definitely feel like it's one of their more complex. I've listened to it numerous times and I enjoy it quite a bit but I feel like I still haven't fully wrapped my head around it yet.
One of the things I'm noticing is it feels like the songs take their time building, as opposed to, say, the more simple, to the point songs on Diamond Eyes. Maybe due to the longer time lengths?
Yeah for sure! The structures feel super random but I wonder if the different tracks lengths like you say and the unusual melodies mask it all.
Mixed emotions on the whole album but all in a good way. It's weird!
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Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans
Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world
Thats awesome. 10000002 now ,just ordered the cd and lp.
Do you have a link?
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 05:02 PM
Change is a hit. It might not get mega radio play but it's a hit alright. The sort of song that's recognisable to rock and alternative fans of that era who may not have really listened to the band.
is it played more where any of you live? cause here (ohio, cincinnati area) it's been since at least 2003 that i last heard it, and i might not have even heard it once that year, might be remembering wrong, but i think it was played once in lead up to Minerva being played. it was played a good amount for 10 months to a year after it first hit the radio in 2000, then nothing whatsoever. any different where some of you live?
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Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans
Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world
Thats awesome. 10000002 now ,just ordered the cd and lp.
Do you have a link?
a link for what their sales? there's a bunch of articles that say 10 million worldwide the past 2 years or so. wikipedia has gone with it and won't erase it, and the math seems to add up. i think the sales figure was released by their label
Urantia is one of the best songs they've ever written. The vocal melody and drums are *chef's kiss*
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 05:07 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 05:02 PM
Change is a hit. It might not get mega radio play but it's a hit alright. The sort of song that's recognisable to rock and alternative fans of that era who may not have really listened to the band.
is it played more where any of you live? cause here (ohio, cincinnati area) it's been since at leasy 2003 that i last heard it, and i might not have even heard it one that year, might be remembering wrong, but i think it was played once in lead up to Minerva being played. it was played a good amount for 10 months to a year after it first hit the radio in 2000, then nothing whatsoever. any different where some of you live?
I think you'll have to define what you're classifying as a hit. It was an alternative hit, not a mainstream one. And I'm not saying it's anywhere near Last Resort or something like that. But it was big enough that it crossed over, through film soundtracks and playlists, to people who don't know the band.
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Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans
Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world
Thats awesome. 10000002 now ,just ordered the cd and lp.
Do you have a link?
a link for what their sales? there's a bunch of articles that say 10 million worldwide the past 2 years or so. wikipedia has gone with it and won't erase it, and the math seems to add up. i think the sales figure was released by their label
Ok i haven't been following them the last 2y,its just that they said 7.5million in a ohms interview the other day, but i really hope its 10 :D
A reminder that this is happening on Sunday:
https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1309525822856925186?s=19
QuoteSunday night on @Radio1RockShow I'm playing the fantastic new @deftones album 'Ohms' in full along with interviews with the band about its creation. PLUS some choice stuff from the BBC archives...
@BBCR1 from 9pm
#Deftones #ohms https://t.co/zcCIsBNHcj
Not a regular thing for him to play a new album in full on that show.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 03:10 PM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 02:56 AM
Don't know if this was posted yet.
https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-rock-interviews/deftones-talk-new-album-ohms?fbclid=IwAR1Ed-5RwO9XOhIT1vrChDwlRD38PtR2Rt_SLT7ZrvSPY9cbZHlspMm70bo
TSOM was the last song written for the album - in the studio, after abe and sergio were just messing around and chino sneakily said to record them from the other room :)
he also said there was a finished song(musically) that he tried and tried to make lyrics and melodies for, but just couldn't get there and had to walk away. so there went our 11th song, lol.
Yeah, it just didn't work out. The last track recorded that made it on to the record was TSOM.
Go back and finish it Chino! Terry is only a short drive away!
I love how we as fans can pull the "But Terry only lives three hours away from you, Chino!" card now. Just go live in the camper in Terry's driveway and get to making more music!
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 05:33 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 03:10 PM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 02:56 AM
Don't know if this was posted yet.
https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-rock-interviews/deftones-talk-new-album-ohms?fbclid=IwAR1Ed-5RwO9XOhIT1vrChDwlRD38PtR2Rt_SLT7ZrvSPY9cbZHlspMm70bo
TSOM was the last song written for the album - in the studio, after abe and sergio were just messing around and chino sneakily said to record them from the other room :)
he also said there was a finished song(musically) that he tried and tried to make lyrics and melodies for, but just couldn't get there and had to walk away. so there went our 11th song, lol.
Yeah, it just didn't work out. The last track recorded that made it on to the record was TSOM.
very interesting. so anyone wondering why this has only 10 tracks, that explains it. he tried hard, but just couldn't come up with anything good enough
It's been really interesting listening to others opinions on this album. I'm several listens in at this point and I can safely point to my favorites on this album. Every Deftones album for me does this thing where I go through system shock at first listen because I have no idea where the music will go. But after having a night to really digest it I'll say:
(this is just my opinion, don't be mad at me :-*)
I just knew Ceremony would be one of my favorites, the chorus (not just vocals but also the instrumental rhythm) is absolutely one of the catchiest they've done in awhile.
Urantia is gorgeous, top track for me. However only one negative I can say, (and it's not really a negative) is the beginning of the song (to use a metaphor) is like when your dad tells you you're going on a ride with him in his old 1961 ferrari 250GT and you're like "fuck yeah we're gonna blow the roof off this bitch" but then ya'll get out and just cruise and have a nice memorable day of bonding. The song just goes in the opposite direction of where I thought it was going but that's not a bad thing. I love the groove on this one, and the chorus is great.
The Spell of Mathematics... is... my... jam. This song is like auditory sex... and when you listen with the track visualizer it's fuckin rad. GAWD that chorus "I believe your love has placed its spell on me" sounds like R&B or something, I can't describe it, it's just sexy AF. I see what people were saying about it. Favorite track easily.
Pompeji is an interesting track but not at all what I was expecting. Tell you the truth, I don't know what I was expecting. It's a slower song than I had imagined. I thought the seagulls fit very well with the song, and that outro is gorgeous too. Kinda reminds me of Twin Peaks music, as a matter of fact, a lot of the album gives me those feels.
This Link Is Dead isn't my cup of tea. Not hearing what others are hearing. Maybe just me but I hear some Faith No More on this track. I just don't think of it as "heavy" or "angry". WGTB will continue to be the heaviest and most pissed they've ever been. The vocal effect/delivery is present but that's where the comparison ends for me.
Radiant City is a rather strange track... I dunno how to feel about it yet. Error is not doing it for me much either, but I do like the chorus. Headless sounds a little like the sequel to Xenon, but like Terminator 2 sequel, not Speed 2 sequel. (I'm old that's the reference I'm going with) I like that track a lot.
Overall I think the best songs were the singles, along with Ceremony, Urantia, and TSOM. Genesis is just a fucking banger, Deftones doing what Deftones do; and the title track Ohms is a great closer to a rather great album. If I could describe the sound of the album I'd say it's like all their previous albums having an orgy. The production was stellar but I felt at times like they still have a problem with the vocals resting on top of the music too much. Like Chino's mix is loud and has that reverberating effect, idk for some reason he just wants that echoey effect there. Doesn't bother me like it did on Gore, I just still noticed it. That being said, it's a vast improvement over Gore. It's a solid 8/10 for me.
Re-reg account here from the days of waiting for SNW, the smoking avatar guy, the Lovecraft guy, and the guy who posted as Sammy Davis Jr going on about being buck naked all the time (maybe you had to be there). Tried and failed to reopen my old account but maybe a good thing not to have to re-acquaint myself with 24 year-old me.
Anyway. Great album, not blown away on the first listen but liking it more each time, and I'd place 'Genesis' and 'Spell' and 'Pompeji' in the top tier Tones material personally. I think this has the strongest opener since Hexagram in terms of impact, although as a song Praters/Triangles is fairly impeccable to my ears. I also do dig 'Ceremony' and 'Radiant', with 'Headless' growing on me (the one place I was reminded of ATF).
'Urantia' has that major-ish melody thing they did all over Gore but with good production. 'Link' has little to do with the song it's been compared to IMO, and it's very post HC to me. Wonder it Sergio had a strong hand on it as a result.
Some of the atmospheric parts and segues throughout the album are exceptional.
I think the songs are no more complex than a lot of the last two albums tbh, just think they have had less time to sink in. If you think back to Rosemary for instance, or Riviere, it's a bit like that for the main, this isn't Justice or Opeth.
Got the (black) vinyl and CD through today and listened to the lossy rip a few times the day it came out, put it to bed for release then. The CD is a marked improvement on the rip (obviously).
I have to say the vinyl isn't brilliant to my ears. The treble is reeaaaally sibilant at times and it sounds compressed, don't think it's been hugely worked on as a specific vinyl mastering. A nice keepsake for likely the only new release I'll buy on vinyl in this strange piece of time though and good to support the band. You'd do fine just buying the CD IMO.
The packaging on both sucks a bit. Great booklet and photography and what I think will become an iconic cover placed onto crappy thin card. The CD barely fits in, and I thought the Gore digipack was bad. The lyric sheet in my LP has a big, scored dog-ear fold too. Lovely. Also a cheap paper inner sleeve for the LP, I hate these, they stick to the wax with static and I always have to clean paper debris (of the past) off them. It's been replaced.
It's not beaten Koi as record of the Sergio era for me, I'd place it alongside Diamond Eyes and above Gore however. It's been a trip for sure.
Apologies about the long post.
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 10:05 AM
Oh and my wife's COVID test came back negative so this is a really good day. Wow, just listening to the ending of 'Error'. Wow.
Very Palms-ish.
The Guardian gave Ohms the only review below 8/10 so far, with 6/10
How can you give this album anything less than 8/10? Like, fuck the guardian amirite?
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 25, 2020, 07:04 PM
The Guardian gave Ohms the only review below 8/10 so far, with 6/10
How can you give this album anything less than 8/10? Like, fuck the guardian amirite?
The rating didn't really bother me. It's the review itself that's silly. Take this for example:
QuoteNonetheless, their experimental bent doesn't dampen their music's equally potent hit of 1990s nostalgia: their ninth album, Ohms, feels more pre-9/11 America than Fred Durst's backward caps. The guitars thrash, the drums are punishingly thwacked, and everything is presented with that slick-on-the-ear nu-metal production style once helped the genre become a pop-culture phenom.
Well their opinion is wrong.
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 25, 2020, 05:03 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 04:39 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 25, 2020, 04:21 PM
Given it a handful of listens now. It's such a complex album to me, so it makes me feel like it's super accessible but at the same time one that will take waaaay more listens for it to sink in.
A sign of a great album.
Time will determine where it sits in their discography but it'll be up there for sure.
Yeah, I definitely feel like it's one of their more complex. I've listened to it numerous times and I enjoy it quite a bit but I feel like I still haven't fully wrapped my head around it yet.
One of the things I'm noticing is it feels like the songs take their time building, as opposed to, say, the more simple, to the point songs on Diamond Eyes. Maybe due to the longer time lengths?
Yeah for sure! The structures feel super random but I wonder if the different tracks lengths like you say and the unusual melodies mask it all.
Mixed emotions on the whole album but all in a good way. It's weird!
All this. For sure. Definitely signs of a great album. Like a fine wine for me right now already.
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 25, 2020, 07:20 PM
Well their opinion is wrong.
Yeah. But if a 6/10 is interesting and well written, with a level of understanding, then I don't mind as much, even if I pretty strongly disagree. This guy clearly didn't know what he was talking about.
Loving all of your reviews btw..... some good writers here in the last cpl pages... ;)
genesis fine
ceremony good second half
urantia cheesy 80's chorus no likely
error kinda boring, nice ending
spell good
pompeiji good
link fine
radiant boring
headless fine
ohms fine
overall fine album
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Sep 25, 2020, 07:00 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 10:05 AM
Oh and my wife's COVID test came back negative so this is a really good day. Wow, just listening to the ending of 'Error'. Wow.
Very Palms-ish.
This is one of the most exciting assessments I've read so far. I absolutely LOVE the Palms LP.
https://www.theprp.com/2020/09/24/reviews/deftones-ohms/
Decades into a career that has been torn apart by loss and substance abuse and mended back to health by brotherhood, enduring friendship and a genuine love of what they do; Deftones deliver an album that matches that of their most memorable ventures. Their welcome reunion with producer Terry Date, who helmed several of their earliest outings, only solidifies their reinvigorated pact.
4.5/5 from the prp
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 25, 2020, 07:04 PM
The Guardian gave Ohms the only review below 8/10 so far, with 6/10
How can you give this album anything less than 8/10? Like, fuck the guardian amirite?
Having The Guardian review music is like asking a man without feet to run.
yeah, now Ohms is out of Metacritic's top 3 albums of 2020 because of that shitty review I'm legit mad lmao
Spell of mathematics would work very well as a closer i think. ohms as 2nd track.
does the cd come with a booklet? any pics, etc? if someone wants to scan that up along with the back of the album, for us poor shmucks that have to wait longer cause amazon is dumb and slow, that would be cool. i gotta wait until the 29th
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 25, 2020, 07:46 PM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 25, 2020, 07:04 PM
The Guardian gave Ohms the only review below 8/10 so far, with 6/10
How can you give this album anything less than 8/10? Like, fuck the guardian amirite?
Having The Guardian review music is like asking a man without feet to run.
Spot on.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 08:13 PM
does the cd come with a booklet? any pics, etc? if someone wants to scan that up along with the back of the album, for us poor shmucks that have to wait longer cause amazon is dumb and slow, that would be cool. i gotta wait until the 29th
It does! I don't have pics unfortunately
The visuals for TSOM from the visual tracklist are fantastic.
Love how chino seems to be singing about writing the music with erased recordings and "arranging cards" etc and getting out of the crib to go around the lake and blow off steam maybe? (Urantia)Dont have official lyrics in front of me but thats what i hear. So much more to this also in the song imo
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 25, 2020, 10:14 PM
Love how chino seems to be singing about writing the music with erased recordings and "arranging cards" etc and getting out of the crib to go around the lake and blow off steam maybe? (Urantia)Dont have official lyrics in front of me but thats what i hear. So much more to this also in the song imo
This is totally new to me because off the top of my head I can't think of him writing about some thing in first person personally that upfront. Sorry I'm not a scholar to use better words to describe it but you get the drift right?
Fucking ABE CUNNINGFUCKINGHAM is a monster! Well done sir. Gonna retire TLID officially today at least until im curious enough to try to understand its beauty if any someday. But Abe smashed that one up to. Only Favorite part of it besides feeling creepy in my house alone tonight when it played.
Obviously, the album has been on repeat and I'm still diggin it alot... so much so that I adopted a dot! Where it ranks amongst the other albums, not sure.
Anywho - I know song rankings are subject to change as soon as I hit post, but I'm doing it anyway. I'd say about half of this album is top tier, there's a few great tracks, and one that hasn't hit the mark... yet. Obviously that will be #10 on the list.
Here's my song rank. It's the moment everyone has been waiting for, of course
1. Urantia
2. Headless
3. This Link is Dead
4. Error
5. Ohms
6. Radiant City
7. The Spell of Mathematics
8. Genesis
9. Ceremony
10. Pompeji
First off, I'm really happy that so many people are in love with this record. I wish I could say the same but it does absolutely nothing for me. I find very little of it memorable, catchy, or impressive. It all kinda sounds the same. Chino's vocals are super pitchy. Some of the guitar work is impressive and interesting, but again not catchy or crushing some like some of Stef's past work. Maybe a few more listen things will change, but for now this record makes Gore seem like a masterpiece.
the spell of mathematics is the ride i've been waiting for since self-titled. absolutely epic track.
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 26, 2020, 12:31 AM
First off, I'm really happy that so many people are in love with this record. I wish I could say the same but it does absolutely nothing for me. I find very little of it memorable, catchy, or impressive. It all kinda sounds the same. Chino's vocals are super pitchy. Some of the guitar work is impressive and interesting, but again not catchy or crushing some like some of Stef's past work. Maybe a few more listen things will change, but for now this record makes Gore seem like a masterpiece.
if you want catchy this is the wrong band. they've never made super catchy stuff
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 26, 2020, 12:13 AM
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 25, 2020, 11:51 PM
1. Urantia
::)
LOL I thought we were all mature on this board now and not poo-pooing other people's opinions. Because if not, I'm ready to dig in and tell you why ALL of you motherfuckers are wrong on everything.
BTW just received an email from them that my bundle has shipped.
Pretty cool that the diverse view of "favorite" vs. "least favorite" tracks is so wide open. Not a lot everyone agrees with. Says quite a bit about how solid this record is to most of us.
Just having fun. Truthfully though I can't connect to Urantia at all.
Quote from: Speedking on Sep 25, 2020, 06:36 PM
Re-reg account here from the days of waiting for SNW, the smoking avatar guy, the Lovecraft guy, and the guy who posted as Sammy Davis Jr going on about being buck naked all the time (maybe you had to be there). Tried and failed to reopen my old account but maybe a good thing not to have to re-acquaint myself with 24 year-old me.
Anyway. Great album, not blown away on the first listen but liking it more each time, and I'd place 'Genesis' and 'Spell' and 'Pompeji' in the top tier Tones material personally. I think this has the strongest opener since Hexagram in terms of impact, although as a song Praters/Triangles is fairly impeccable to my ears. I also do dig 'Ceremony' and 'Radiant', with 'Headless' growing on me (the one place I was reminded of ATF).
'Urantia' has that major-ish melody thing they did all over Gore but with good production. 'Link' has little to do with the song it's been compared to IMO, and it's very post HC to me. Wonder it Sergio had a strong hand on it as a result.
Some of the atmospheric parts and segues throughout the album are exceptional.
I think the songs are no more complex than a lot of the last two albums tbh, just think they have had less time to sink in. If you think back to Rosemary for instance, or Riviere, it's a bit like that for the main, this isn't Justice or Opeth.
Got the (black) vinyl and CD through today and listened to the lossy rip a few times the day it came out, put it to bed for release then. The CD is a marked improvement on the rip (obviously).
I have to say the vinyl isn't brilliant to my ears. The treble is reeaaaally sibilant at times and it sounds compressed, don't think it's been hugely worked on as a specific vinyl mastering. A nice keepsake for likely the only new release I'll buy on vinyl in this strange piece of time though and good to support the band. You'd do fine just buying the CD IMO.
The packaging on both sucks a bit. Great booklet and photography and what I think will become an iconic cover placed onto crappy thin card. The CD barely fits in, and I thought the Gore digipack was bad. The lyric sheet in my LP has a big, scored dog-ear fold too. Lovely. Also a cheap paper inner sleeve for the LP, I hate these, they stick to the wax with static and I always have to clean paper debris (of the past) off them. It's been replaced.
It's not beaten Koi as record of the Sergio era for me, I'd place it alongside Diamond Eyes and above Gore however. It's been a trip for sure.
Apologies about the long post.
Also my top 3 and all of them i hope to rest right there among the top Dtones trax of all time. I feel that way abt em now anyways. Enjoying the whole record pretty much. Coulda done 9 songs without TLID and i wlda been cool
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 26, 2020, 01:07 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 26, 2020, 12:13 AM
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 25, 2020, 11:51 PM
1. Urantia
::)
LOL I thought we were all mature on this board now and not poo-pooing other people's opinions. Because if not, I'm ready to dig in and tell you why ALL of you motherfuckers are wrong on everything.
BTW just received an email from them that my bundle has shipped.
you guys are crazy.... Urantia fucks! 8)
After I wrote that I listened to pompeji a few more times. Still meh. How do you pronounce pompeji btw?
I'm waiting elimination game
I love how i get pulled down a rabbit hole with Headless. Track starts and im like at a Crosses show and all of a sudden ots Deftones at their most interesting and strangest. Good tune, just dont get the shit they start out with. Lotta "pop" parts in the album i get over only bc they r usually at the beginning of the songs and the songs get way better later. Kind of a trend im picking up here
Chino seems to be talking to his wife to add to what i said abt Urantia. Cant wait for a record jacket fkn shit piss widafooooooock!!!!! Track growing on me also. Like an 80s ballad ala Dtones 2020 or something idk wt to make of it. I play it thru is all i know. He rifles thru her bag after lighting her butt from the tray is what i hear
EDIT... never mind, im convinced now that it is a song to his wife but make what u will. Its a good track and even better for whatever reason that its sorta personal. He does that, bit not so much simce Mascara
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 26, 2020, 12:31 AM
First off, I'm really happy that so many people are in love with this record. I wish I could say the same but it does absolutely nothing for me. I find very little of it memorable, catchy, or impressive. It all kinda sounds the same. Chino's vocals are super pitchy. Some of the guitar work is impressive and interesting, but again not catchy or crushing some like some of Stef's past work. Maybe a few more listen things will change, but for now this record makes Gore seem like a masterpiece.
if you want catchy this is the wrong band. they've never made super catchy stuff
Uhhh I disagree here mate. I guess what he meant by catchy is something which is gravitating and not something which accessible and easy to listen to.
Quote from: pannch on Sep 26, 2020, 02:33 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 26, 2020, 12:31 AM
First off, I'm really happy that so many people are in love with this record. I wish I could say the same but it does absolutely nothing for me. I find very little of it memorable, catchy, or impressive. It all kinda sounds the same. Chino's vocals are super pitchy. Some of the guitar work is impressive and interesting, but again not catchy or crushing some like some of Stef's past work. Maybe a few more listen things will change, but for now this record makes Gore seem like a masterpiece.
if you want catchy this is the wrong band. they've never made super catchy stuff
Uhhh I disagree here mate. I guess what he meant by catchy is something which is gravitating and not something which accessible and easy to listen to.
Yes exactly. Hidalgo, you've been around long enough and should know that Deftones make some incredibly catchy tunes (Change, BQAD, Minerva, Beware, Leathers, Goon Squad, Swerve City, Root, etc.). Hell most of their catalog is very catchy and hummable. Not finding that with this new record, that's all mate.
what happened here
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 26, 2020, 02:51 AM
Quote from: pannch on Sep 26, 2020, 02:33 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 26, 2020, 12:31 AM
First off, I'm really happy that so many people are in love with this record. I wish I could say the same but it does absolutely nothing for me. I find very little of it memorable, catchy, or impressive. It all kinda sounds the same. Chino's vocals are super pitchy. Some of the guitar work is impressive and interesting, but again not catchy or crushing some like some of Stef's past work. Maybe a few more listen things will change, but for now this record makes Gore seem like a masterpiece.
if you want catchy this is the wrong band. they've never made super catchy stuff
Uhhh I disagree here mate. I guess what he meant by catchy is something which is gravitating and not something which accessible and easy to listen to.
Yes exactly. Hidalgo, you've been around long enough and should know that Deftones make some incredibly catchy tunes (Change, BQAD, Minerva, Beware, Leathers, Goon Squad, Swerve City, Root, etc.). Hell most of their catalog is very catchy and hummable. Not finding that with this new record, that's all mate.
well they're my fav band ever, so i obviously don't care if they're super catchy. super being the key word. they have some fairly catchy stuff. but it's more interesting and different(why i like them) than linkin park catchy. Chino is just very diffferent. i'm actually finding this record a bit more catchy than normal, but it's so new that i can't come close to any final word on it yet(only 5 listens so far)
From fav to least fav (I didnt dislike any songs, btw):
TSoM
Headless
Ceremony
Urantia
Error
Ohms
TLID
Pompeji
Genesis
Radiant city
Somewhat surprised that I'm the only vote for Headless
i voted for Ohms. the guitar riffs are just so good the whole way through. also the video is their best ever (imo), so that helps, the ending riffs part of the video is just so awesome(the whole video is, but that's my favorite part).
but like i said the other songs are too new to me now, so no clue how i'll feel in a month or 2. loving them all
Ceremony is such a banger.
Surprised some aren't liking Urantia. That chorus is so unique to me... I almost wish he repeated it one more time.
And the end of Error might be my favorite 2 minutes of music they have ever created!
I'm actually shocked no one is putting it out there for This Link is Dead. There's some definite teenage angst my 40 yr old ass kinda laughs at, but it's nostalgic
@laurapalmer - Headless is my no. 2 pick. Ask me tomorrow and it might be 1 - it's 100% in contention. So far I've seen it make a few peoples top 3
also, i'll be that guy. The Spell of Mathematics ain't all that. Come get some!... lets watch how wild it gets
Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 26, 2020, 05:23 AM
also, i'll be that guy. The Spell of Mathematics ain't all that. Come get some!... lets watch how wild it gets
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/88/3c/71/883c712fbfe07607104c46e83e44af2d.gif)
So..... 2 or 4 years till the next album guys? 😅
Well, if we're counting Black Stallion, then that's just a couple months away :)
The harmonizing oooohs in Urantias chorus are so beautiful. Oh and Abes snares sound like fucking gunshots. Ceremony, Spell, Error are also instant top-tier songs
After so many listens, the weakest track for me is TLID, maybe in time it will click with me. It's such a great album that feels like a mix of S/T, KNY and SNW
A return to form!
I voted for Radiant City, but I honestly didn't know which one to vote for. They are all so good.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Sep 26, 2020, 03:39 AM
Somewhat surprised that I'm the only vote for Headless
Make that two
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 26, 2020, 08:45 AM
After so many listens, the weakest track for me is TLID, maybe in time it will click with me. It's such a great album that feels like a mix of S/T, KNY and SNW
A return to form!
There's a lot of Gore on Ohms, too. Lyrically and aesthetically it reminds me a lot of their best ideas from Gore. There are some parallels between Pittura Infamante and Pompeji, Xenon and Error, Acid Hologram and Spell
The pre chorus of Radiant City gives me such ATF vibes
Quote from: SMLiberator on Sep 26, 2020, 06:34 AM
Well, if we're counting Black Stallion, then that's just a couple months away :)
BS should be out in November (according to Chino).
Still no sign of uk preorder shipping :'(
Quote from: Shells on Sep 26, 2020, 11:35 AM
Still no sign of uk preorder shipping :'(
Yeah, for me neither. Ended up up buying it in FLAC so that I at least had the music but would like to check out the liner notes etc.
First listen: bummed out, didn't really understand what I just heard. No instant earworms. Some parts of the songs and riffs felt even out of their place. Thought that maybe Gore had better songs like Phantom & Hearts/Wires for example. But the problem was actually me and my expectations.
After 4th listen: to me this is now album of the year, maybe even album of the last few years, but definitely album of their entire career. #1. Period. My previous favorite was SNW or S/T.
It's incredible that on their 9th record they're able to flip the script with a this kind of a masterpiece. This one is musically on a new level. Even if Stef went for 9 string guitar he plays more in the higher register than in a last decade which is where I feel his creativity shines. Playing from lower register is actually harmonically more limited. Frank also stepped up in a major way on this one. It almost feels like he stood up and took a place of Chino's guitar.
Every song is a trip in itself and every left turn that first felt weird is now just as it should be and feels natural. Ohms makes perfect sense as a last track (and I also totally understand why it was the first single). It kinda releases the tension that the arch of the album has. Also when the Genesis video dropped it was a letdown after Ohms video but now it makes perfect sense when you look at that visual playlist as a cohesive work of art. This album has layers behind layers.
Long live OHMS!
Quote from: Sunbath on Sep 26, 2020, 11:59 AM
First listen: bummed out, didn't really understand what I just heard. No instant earworms. Some parts of the songs and riffs felt even out of their place.
I had the same experience the first time, I felt complete apathy towards most of the record. It took like 3 listens to comprehend what I just heard.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 26, 2020, 12:25 PM
Quote from: Sunbath on Sep 26, 2020, 11:59 AM
First listen: bummed out, didn't really understand what I just heard. No instant earworms. Some parts of the songs and riffs felt even out of their place.
I had the same experience the first time, I felt complete apathy towards most of the record. It took like 3 listens to comprehend what I just heard.
100% agree
The only vocal melody I'm not completely sold on yet on the album is when chino sings "Useless" in Headless.
But this might become my #2 favorite deftones album just after White Pony.
Quote from: moskwality on Sep 26, 2020, 01:15 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 26, 2020, 12:25 PM
Quote from: Sunbath on Sep 26, 2020, 11:59 AM
First listen: bummed out, didn't really understand what I just heard. No instant earworms. Some parts of the songs and riffs felt even out of their place.
I had the same experience the first time, I felt complete apathy towards most of the record. It took like 3 listens to comprehend what I just heard.
100% agree
Lol the album completely clicked with me on first listen.
Am I a smoothbrain or something? :o
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First listen: bummed out, didn't really understand what I just heard. No instant earworms. Some parts of the songs and riffs felt even out of their place.
I had the same experience the first time, I felt complete apathy towards most of the record. It took like 3 listens to comprehend what I just heard.
100% agree
Lol the album completely clicked with me on first listen.
Am I a smoothbrain or something? :o
I won't say it completely clicked first listen but I was vibing hard with the majority of it. For some reason I still can't click with Error. It's probably my short attention span.
After several listens the only thing I can't connect with when listening to the album as a whole is how Radiant City starts. After The Link Is Dead it's suddenly bap do bapbo bap bap baaapp super flap bassy bass and it doesn't feel right to me.
Works well in the track and the rest of the song is great - just feel a different intro would work better for me personally (maybe modelled on a different part of the song first or something).
Headless is completely the standout for me.
The melody on 'Your attempt is useless' is as haunting as they've ever done.
I'm never getting over TSOM. Feels like my soul is leaving my body.
Quote from: Fuzzheadup on Sep 26, 2020, 03:38 PM
Headless is completely the standout for me.
The melody on 'Your attempt is useless' is as haunting as they've ever done.
Completely agree! After a few listens, catches me a lot
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Still no sign of uk preorder shipping :'(
Yeah, for me neither. Ended up up buying it in FLAC so that I at least had the music but would like to check out the liner notes etc.
Got the shipping confirmation of the cassette bundle, but it's international shipping (tracked), and they don't include the tracking number in the details LOL
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 26, 2020, 08:45 AM
After so many listens, the weakest track for me is TLID, maybe in time it will click with me. It's such a great album that feels like a mix of S/T, KNY and SNW
A return to form!
I think it's a song you have to be in a certain mood for. If you're not feeling angsty, it's not going to do much for you. There's a lot of elements on the song that are great - the chorus, the synths, the outro riffs - but the verses just go on a little too long for me.
Seen a lot of raving about the second half of Error which is great but the first part has some of Stephen's best riffs on the album IMO. That guitar tone is pure insanity.
Different songs stick out every time I listen to this record. I think every song has been in my three favourites at some point after a full album listen.
White Pony and Around The Fur are my two favourite Deftones records. I hold them in such high regard; they're flawless rock albums. I think Ohms might well be their next best after those two.
What a band.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 26, 2020, 04:03 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 26, 2020, 08:45 AM
After so many listens, the weakest track for me is TLID, maybe in time it will click with me. It's such a great album that feels like a mix of S/T, KNY and SNW
A return to form!
I think it's a song you have to be in a certain mood for. If you're not feeling angsty, it's not going to do much for you. There's a lot of elements on the song that are great - the chorus, the synths, the outro riffs - but the verses just go on a little too long for me.
Seen a lot of raving about the second half of Error which is great but the first part has some of Stephen's best riffs on the album IMO. That guitar tone is pure insanity.
True, I like a lot of heavy music, but these days I need to be in the mood for it for sure, it will click with me eventually!
Abe absolutely rips through the whole thing too. Definitely the best performance he's put down on an album IMO.
Pompeji is without a doubt the worst song on here. Dig the intro and verses with Chino's guitar, the synths and seagulls, but as soon as Steph's guitar kicks in it sounds like the same kind of boring Gore shit. Chino's vocals during the heavy parts and the chorus are also awful. Probably the worst delivery he's ever given, though SNW at parts was pretty bad too.
Definitely tracks 2-5 is where the best stuff lies. Ceremony and Urantia could've been a bit better if they'd made a few different decisions, but they're fine songs as they are and there's a lot of great stuff on these. Error has the best melodies on here and I think is becoming my favorite Ohms track, despite the Korn sounding verse. TSPOM is the best heavy stuff on here and is the only time I really feel like Steph's lower register adds something valuable. Don't know why everyone is shitting on the snaps and Sergio's vocals at the end. It's good stuff.
This Link is Dead sounds like a less impactful WGTB. Love the main riff of Radiant City but the rest of the song is kind of boring. Pre-chorus sounds like a ripoff of Prince (which itself is derivative of RX Queen). Wish this one had been developed more because that verse riff is so fun. Headless had a lot of potential but I keep hearing Risk during the verse with Steph's guitar, making it feel derivative too. Best part is the little jangly guitar, bass, and drums during the bridge. Wish this one had leaned into that vibe and just gone full on The Cure.
Steph and maybe Terry Date are the limiting agents here. Dude needs to go back to the 8-string at least, smoke a little less weed, and be a little more ambitious. Terry Date records them pretty well, but they need someone who can push back on some of their decisions, motivate them, and guide them in the right direction.
Overall, the album isn't a complete shit show to the point where I think they should just hang it up. It's almost certainly in their bottom three of albums but the songs overall sound more cohesive and collaborative than Gore which is positive and there's enough experimentation on here with the synths and song structures to make me think that they can still do great stuff in the future.
Top tier: Adrenaline, WP, KNY
Mid tier: ATF, SNW, DE
Bottom tier: S/T, Gore, Ohms
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Overall, the album isn't a complete shit show to the point where I think they should just hang it up.
Your lack of self-awareness is a joy to behold.
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Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 26, 2020, 05:26 PM
Overall, the album isn't a complete shit show to the point where I think they should just hang it up.
Your lack of self-awareness is a joy to behold.
LOL, unpack that a little.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 26, 2020, 03:45 PM
I'm never getting over TSOM. Feels like my soul is leaving my body.
I feel the same way.
Guys, I don't even know what to do about this LP. Right now, I've just barely finished listening to the whole thing start to finish. My "first listen" plans were obliterated by "circumstance" let's say.
Now that I've heard every song, there's only one track that is giving me trouble. The rest of this album is basically murdering me with Fuck-Yes-ery.
I'm feeling incredibly satisfied and before I had gotten all the way through it I was starting to fear I wasn't going to be happy with it at all. Now that I've completed it, I can't believe I was worried. Each song has one to five different motifs that are phenomenal about it.
Yeah, even the weak track is managing to grow on me with every listen. That song is "Urantia"
How I'm feeling right now:
1. White Pony
2. Around the Fur
3. Deftones
4. Ohms
5. Diamond Eyes
6. Tie: Saturday Night Wrist/Gore
7. Adrenaline
8. Koi No Yokan
I was kind of hoping Ohms would enter my top three because I don't want to be that guy stuck in his youth who goes on and on about their old stuff forever but it's still how I feel. Part of it is probably just my age - you're not going to be as blown away by stuff in your 30's like when you were a teen. Also I've had a headache for the last couple days which is unfortunately kind of tampering with my enjoyment of the music. Fourth place is a good spot - I could see it taking S/T's spot in time, but WP and ATF will probably always lock down the top 2 for me.
I am feeling like it's the most consistent work of the Sergio albums right now - however, that feeling could change. When it's all said and done, Genesis is a top 10 Deftones song for me and it's pretty impressive they can still move me this far in their career.
I kept making comparisons to Radiohead's albums on here and wondered if Ohms would be their Kid A. I'm not flatout blown away by Ohms as I was by Kid A all those years ago, but it might still be their most comparable album to it - not in sound, but due to the fact that it's one of their more challenging albums.
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
I wiuld also say WillHaven is influenced by these guys in a way or too, would you?
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 26, 2020, 06:54 PM
I kept making comparisons to Radiohead's albums on here and wondered if Ohms would be their Kid A. I'm not flatout blown away by Ohms as I was by Kid A all those years ago, but it might still be their most comparable album to it - not in sound, but due to the fact that it's one of their more challenging albums.
I think if there's a Kid A, it's White Pony. It's easy to make a connection with The Bends and Around The Fur, and subsequently Ok Computer and White Pony (in terms of their individual discographies, not that they sound anything alike) but if we're treating Kid A as the most transformative Radiohead album I'd say White Pony is the comparison, although Kid A is much more different to Ok Computer than White Pony is to Around The Fur.
Ohms has some new elements and a slightly different dynamic in terms of how Deftones albums usually work and are sequenced, but also brings past records and sounds together. In that sense, I'd maybe compare it to A Moon Shaped Pool?
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Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
I wiuld also say WillHaven is influenced by these guys in a way or too, would you?
yes. and i would guess will haven would be the first ones to tell you that. they influence each other
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Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
I wiuld also say WillHaven is influenced by these guys in a way or too, would you?
That Sacramento 'scene' of Will Haven, Deftones and Far were all influencing each other.
The switch at 2:47 in Headless is so... unexpected, I have an issue with it.
Everyones entitled to their own opinions and thats the beauty of things (most of the time, at least), but the amount of different takes and perspectives about the same subject (the band, their discography, etc) never ceases to surprise me.
I wont be that guy judging other peoples list, order of prefferences and shit, but man... theres a LOT of different takes in here.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 26, 2020, 08:13 PM
The switch at 2:47 in Headless is so... unexpected, I have an issue with it.
Funny. Every time I thought Headless was going to go off the rails and disappoint me with a stupid melodic turn or a redundant rhythmic feel that would have made it boring, it always took the better turn and surprised the hell out of me to my delight. Multiple passages felt like they were going to take the goodness away but what really happened was it continued getting better.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 26, 2020, 06:54 PM
I kept making comparisons to Radiohead's albums on here and wondered if Ohms would be their Kid A. I'm not flatout blown away by Ohms as I was by Kid A all those years ago, but it might still be their most comparable album to it - not in sound, but due to the fact that it's one of their more challenging albums.
I think if there's a Kid A, it's White Pony. It's easy to make a connection with The Bends and Around The Fur, and subsequently Ok Computer and White Pony (in terms of their individual discographies, not that they sound anything alike) but if we're treating Kid A as the most transformative Radiohead album I'd say White Pony is the comparison, although Kid A is much more different to Ok Computer than White Pony is to Around The Fur.
Ohms has some new elements and a slightly different dynamic in terms of how Deftones albums usually work and are sequenced, but also brings past records and sounds together. In that sense, I'd maybe compare it to A Moon Shaped Pool?
Yeah, A Moon Shaped Pool might be a better comparison. Not my favorite Radiohead album, but it is pretty good.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 26, 2020, 08:13 PM
Everyones entitled to their own opinions and thats the beauty of things (most of the time, at least), but the amount of different takes and perspectives about the same subject (the band, their discography, etc) never ceases to surprise me.
I wont be that guy judging other peoples list, order of prefferences and shit, but man... theres a LOT of different takes in here.
That's really the beauty of the band. We all have different takes on what Ohms songs are the best, what albums are the best, etc. - goes without saying that it speaks to their greatness.
It may have to do with the fact the beginning of that switch is almost an exact copy of a passage on Rubicon. But the transition or lack thereof rather, is so blunt.
My top 5 as of right now:
Genesis
The Spell of Mathematics
Pompeji
Radiant City
Headless
This album is the album that would have come out between Diamond Eyes and KNY
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Quote from: LG95 on Sep 26, 2020, 07:37 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 26, 2020, 06:54 PM
I kept making comparisons to Radiohead's albums on here and wondered if Ohms would be their Kid A. I'm not flatout blown away by Ohms as I was by Kid A all those years ago, but it might still be their most comparable album to it - not in sound, but due to the fact that it's one of their more challenging albums.
I think if there's a Kid A, it's White Pony. It's easy to make a connection with The Bends and Around The Fur, and subsequently Ok Computer and White Pony (in terms of their individual discographies, not that they sound anything alike) but if we're treating Kid A as the most transformative Radiohead album I'd say White Pony is the comparison, although Kid A is much more different to Ok Computer than White Pony is to Around The Fur.
Ohms has some new elements and a slightly different dynamic in terms of how Deftones albums usually work and are sequenced, but also brings past records and sounds together. In that sense, I'd maybe compare it to A Moon Shaped Pool?
Yeah, A Moon Shaped Pool might be a better comparison. Not my favorite Radiohead album, but it is pretty good.
I definitely prefer this to AMSP. I've always thought AMSP had an incredible opener, an incredible closer and was mainly very pleasant in between. It's a mid tier Radiohead album to me.
I think I'm ready for the next album, is there a release date for that yet or?
First listen or two I would sigh and walk away thinking "wtf did I just listen to?"
A couple hours later I'm singing the choruses to some of these "wtf" songs.
The drum beat in error totally reminds me of the beat in Mein.
Anyway, this album is a grower. I thought the weakest track was Radiant City, but that fucking chorus has been in my head all day - so every song has grown on me.
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Quote from: Visionz on Sep 26, 2020, 07:31 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
I wiuld also say WillHaven is influenced by these guys in a way or too, would you?
That Sacramento 'scene' of Will Haven, Deftones and Far were all influencing each other.
I agree. Deftones and WH were pretty close in debuting also if i reacall it right
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 26, 2020, 09:17 PM
First listen or two I would sigh and walk away thinking "wtf did I just listen to?"
A couple hours later I'm singing the choruses to some of these "wtf" songs.
The drum beat in error totally reminds me of the beat in Mein.
Anyway, this album is a grower. I thought the weakest track was Radiant City, but that fucking chorus has been in my head all day - so every song has grown on me.
That's wild. I was sold on Radiant City from the first note and I continuously get excited when I remember that it exists.
Weirdly I have trouble remembering any passages from Error when its been a few hours since I've listened to the album but can pretty well remember at least parts from every song.
I recall people saying that the verse of Pompeji recalls the verse of Phantom Bride and I agree but I have to say that if there was ever an example of righting a horrible wrong it is the killer Pompeji being the "do over" so to speak on the awfulness that ended up being Phantom Bride.
Yeah, didn't like that one. And its not because of the guitar solo from Jerry (who I'm a big fan of) but the solo didn't really help either. That song simply did not move me.
my favourite trio of deftones songs in a sequence is bloody cape-anniversary-moana.
a new wonderful (and fascinating) trio has presented itself - spell of mathematics-pompeji-this link is dead.
what a trip,i'm loving it.
honourable mentions:
knife-korea-passenger
dai-headup-mx
feit-digital-elite
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Sep 26, 2020, 09:42 PM
I recall people saying that the verse of Pompeji recalls the verse of Phantom Bride and I agree but I have to say that if there was ever an example of righting a horrible wrong it is the killer Pompeji being the "do over" so to speak on the awfulness that ended up being Phantom Bride.
Yeah, didn't like that one. And its not because of the guitar solo from Jerry (who I'm a big fan of) but the solo didn't really help either. That song simply did not move me.
Jesus, really don't get the love for Pompeji. Steph's guitar sounds tired and Chino's vocals during everything but the verses sound awful. Best part is undoubtedly the synth outro.
Not a big fan of Phantom Bride either. It's OK, just severely underwhelming. I think I'd have to say it's a better song overall compared to Pompeji though. Really wish they'd gone in a different direction for Pompeji, the verses and outro are so good, but god I can't stand the other parts of the song, just kills it.
Quote from: pulsipher on Sep 26, 2020, 08:57 PM
This album is the album that would have come out between Diamond Eyes and KNY
What. De & Kny go together like nutella and a spoon.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 26, 2020, 08:52 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 26, 2020, 07:37 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 26, 2020, 06:54 PM
I kept making comparisons to Radiohead's albums on here and wondered if Ohms would be their Kid A. I'm not flatout blown away by Ohms as I was by Kid A all those years ago, but it might still be their most comparable album to it - not in sound, but due to the fact that it's one of their more challenging albums.
I think if there's a Kid A, it's White Pony. It's easy to make a connection with The Bends and Around The Fur, and subsequently Ok Computer and White Pony (in terms of their individual discographies, not that they sound anything alike) but if we're treating Kid A as the most transformative Radiohead album I'd say White Pony is the comparison, although Kid A is much more different to Ok Computer than White Pony is to Around The Fur.
Ohms has some new elements and a slightly different dynamic in terms of how Deftones albums usually work and are sequenced, but also brings past records and sounds together. In that sense, I'd maybe compare it to A Moon Shaped Pool?
Yeah, A Moon Shaped Pool might be a better comparison. Not my favorite Radiohead album, but it is pretty good.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 26, 2020, 08:13 PM
Everyones entitled to their own opinions and thats the beauty of things (most of the time, at least), but the amount of different takes and perspectives about the same subject (the band, their discography, etc) never ceases to surprise me.
I wont be that guy judging other peoples list, order of prefferences and shit, but man... theres a LOT of different takes in here.
That's really the beauty of the band. We all have different takes on what Ohms songs are the best, what albums are the best, etc. - goes without saying that it speaks to their greatness.
Indeed
Ceremony is a certified JAM ..
Urantia is so good I almost crashed the car singing the chorus ...
Error has me floating in the clouds .
Spell is like auditory sex.
We got a great record. I'm completely in love with the first half. Second half hasn't quite grabbed me like the first half but I know it will soon.
Favorite part on the record so far is in ceremony where it goes totally quiet . "The world we shared, was never there" then Steph drops that driving riff. Chills every time . 👌
Ready for the next record already haha.
Not a final review (not that anyone cares about me writing one, haha), but my initial impressions are that this album sits well atop all of their work with Sergio; without me knowing it, I think this is the album I wanted after SNW.
None of the songs are super sticky yet for me, but this album, as a holistic listening experience, is the best they've put out since SNW in my opinion. It's a very groovy album that, to my ears, nods to a lot of music I didn't know I felt nostalgic for, somehow bringing to mind The Smashing Pumpkins, Mike Patton projects, Dillinger Escape Plan, and even Korn (don't crucify me) at times while never feeling derivative or cheesy. I doubt these bands were in the regular listening rotation for the guys during this writing cycle, but there are small moments sprinkled throughout that brought these bands to my mind in a very subtle and pleasant way. The flow and track sequence of the album is phenomenal, and the album overall really begs the listener to listen to it in its entirety. I'll give it time before I form any final opinions, but I think it's a very good release from them at this point.
My biggest criticisms on the first few listens surround production. While the overall production quality is miles beyond their sans-Terry releases, I think it's the worst mixing Terry has done with them. Abe's snare needs to be bumped up a couple dB almost throughout the entire album, and Chino's vocals could often find a more comfortable spot in the mix as well in my opinion; Abe's snare sound is so juicy too, it's a shame it doesn't cut through the mix enough on a lot of tracks. While there are times where I think Sergio's bass is too forward in the mix, I do appreciate how his style is finally complemented by the overall writing on this album--it really brings a post-hardcore element to a lot of tracks that are definitely better for it.
I think I really like this album, but only time will tell how well it sticks. It'll definitely be in my regular listening rotation though, and I'm excited to spend more time with it.
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 26, 2020, 09:17 PM
The drum beat in error totally reminds me of the beat in Mein.
it's not just the drum beat for me. I feel like the entire song is kind of a reimagined Mein, and this time it works fantastically. I just feel like it has the style and vibethey were going for on Mein but really missed the mark. there's probably a few fans of that song, but it seems to be pretty popular opinion that is one of the weakest tracks. Error rectifies that mistake in my mind :)
I really fucking wish Ceremony was longer...Jesus christ.. It's PAINFUL how good the chorus is and then it just...ends..
Kinda funny how Deftones always seems to leave me wanting more. This is a great fucking Record...
Quote from: plagasx on Sep 27, 2020, 02:48 AM
I really fucking wish Ceremony was longer...Jesus christ.. It's PAINFUL how good the chorus is and then it just...ends..
Totally agree. I feel that way on a few songs here. I want the bridge to be longer on genesis and ceremony needs one more chorus ... Error needs to go a little higher at the end and Ohms needs more at the end...
When are they going to invite us to the studio so we can help them finish the songs correctly ... lol .. that was a joke. 🤦🏻♂️😜
Headless. Man, what a ride that is. The super doomy riff in the chorus, the spooky synths, and the vocal line. Haha makes my eyes water and throat choke, its that good.
Warming up to other tracks like error, TLID and Radiant City.
One thing I noticed abt Genesis, is that its the most modern - Deftones sounding track of the album. If they decided to go heavy after DE, Genesis is what would have been the next logical evolution from it. That's why I feel Genesis sounds disconnected from the album. Or maybe Genesis seeded in me some sort of expectation as to how Ohms would sound as a whole.
48 HOURS!
Since OHMS hit for this listener, once again this Record is beyond Great. Love the debate here about The Tracks! Interesting for sure. Kinda suprised at the lack of love for This Link is Dead?
Pompeji flows so emotional and different for the Band. Anyone who says this Album isn't experimental is incorrect.Then Frank OWNS, into a Fantastic Track.
That has no Votes?
This album has so many small elements of familiar sounds of their previous work, composing a new experience with their music, I suppose as with most bands, but... My initial impression was juxtaposed to their catalogue, ok, it's a Deftones record. And it certainly wasn't as impressive as DE, KNY, or Gore on the first listen. Honestly, the first two or three listens, it was a little disappointing. After 10-15 listens, the best I can describe this album is... it is like a bush full of buds, and the buds keep blooming and blooming. Each time I listen it gets more colorful and it is evident that they really took their time composing it. I am in disbelief at how much I love it now vs. how disappointing it sounded on the first couple listens. I think this is going to be one of, if not my favorite Deftones record.
I can't put into words how good Ceremony and The Spell of Mathematics are, to me. The whole album is taking me places and I love it.
OMG why couldnt hey have a break down beat of TSOM ...let that ride playa 🤦🏽♂️
It's not fun here anymore?
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 27, 2020, 06:38 AM
It's not fun here anymore?
I voted for Radiant City, but I think Ceremony is my favorite song again. :/
I love that part!
"These guys have released well over 100 songs, all pertaining to the same signature Deftones style, yet they are still finding ways to reinvent their sound and bring new ideas to the table at a point in time where any other band would have run out of steam."
from a review on rym
Headless and TSOM are where it's at boiiii, so many musical highlights!
Ohms' sound is just so rich, the drumming is so effortless and fun to listen to. The second half of TSOM is so smoof! Genesis still feels so much like ATF to me, and Headless! Uggghhh
The Selftitled will always be my favorite, the warmth and brooding sound of that album gives me all the feels, everytime, and I know Ohms has a completely different sound, but it just gives me the vibes of WP/ST. Love it.
1. Deftones
2. Around the Fur
3. White Pony
4. Ohms
5. Saturday Night Wrist
6. Diamond Eyes
7. Koi No Yokan
8. Adrenaline
9. Gore
Final answer.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
Oh shit, so true! Stephen is on their last album btw, if you're into the heavy and screamish side of the spectrum: Will Haven - El Sol (https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=EXaiLwJ9PuY&feature=share)
Quote from: lahemi on Sep 27, 2020, 10:38 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
Oh shit, so true! Stephen is on their last album btw, if you're into the heavy and screamish side of the spectrum:
The synth at the end of Pompeji also reminds me of the synth at the end of Landing On Ice from Will Haven's 'The Hierophant' album (think Chino did the synth on that track if I remember correctly)
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Quote from: lahemi on Sep 27, 2020, 10:38 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
The heavy screamy parts of Spell of Mathematics reminds me a lot of the voire dire record by will heaven.drony dramatic synths to a massive murky guitar and angst ridden screams, pretty tense. I like all the parts though,the song is very good as a whole.
Oh shit, so true! Stephen is on their last album btw, if you're into the heavy and screamish side of the spectrum:
The synth at the end of Pompeji also reminds me of the synth at the end of Landing On Ice from Will Haven's 'The Hierophant' album (think Chino did the synth on that track if I remember correctly)
Man, you've nailed it. The opening riff of Genesis reminded me of something and I couldn't put my finger on it; Carpe Diem, when the main riff of Genesis played one last time right at the end. But now that I'm listening to Carpe Diem it pales in comparison to the wall of sound of Genesis when the 1-0-0-0 riff hits. lol but still..
edit: Not to mention that Shaun Lopez and Chino were involved with The Hierophant. And Chino actually being in the Video of Carpe Diem, etc.
edit²: Man, I totally forgot about Will Haven. It's WBTG on every track, and you'll get tired of it, but when you're in the mood.. phew lol
After giving Ohms several listens (enough that it's all familiar now) I believe I can say it's kind of a mid-pack Deftones album. While all the songs are pretty good, there are a few elements that could be better. Steph rides the same note too often throughout the album and while heavy, some of the riffs seem lazy. It's almost like he was thinking he has to play these live and doesn't want to have to think too hard. Anyway, it's a good album as all Deftones albums are. Here is how I rank their albums for now. Diamond Eyes and Ohms could be flipped in my rankings. They are very close. I gave the nod to DE because Stephs riffs are a little better on that one with songs like Prince and Royal.
White Pony
SNW
Deftones
Around the Fur
Diamond Eyes
Ohms
KNY
Adrenaline
Gore
Im so glad I know nothing about production or lazy riffs or not enough snare etc. Its all subjective and I love this album just like all the other ones. Seems like some people here are nitpicking the shit out of it. Again glad Im a moron when it comes to the audiophile type shit so I can just enjoy it.. Wish I could rank all the albums and or songs but it all depends on my mood and whats going on around me .
Quote from: kleptoned on Sep 27, 2020, 02:20 PM
Im so glad I know nothing about production or lazy riffs or not enough snare etc. Its all subjective and I love this album just like all the other ones. Seems like some people here are nitpicking the shit out of it. Again glad Im a moron when it comes to the audiophile type shit so I can just enjoy it.. Wish I could rank all the albums and or songs but it all depends on my mood and whats going on around me .
I think the snare is tuned a little low on purpose for the particular mix on this album.
I can't do that poll btw, I selected a song just so I could see the results :)
Do a poll where you can select your top three next :) It's too hard to choose damn it :)
Wow, not one person has chosen 'This Link is Dead' yet... I wasn't expecting that.
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 27, 2020, 02:44 PM
I can't do that poll btw, I selected a song just so I could see the results :)
Do a poll where you can select your top three next :) It's too hard to choose damn it :)
Wow, not one person has chosen 'This Link is Dead' yet... I wasn't expecting that.
Today, its probably my least fav Deftones track, diwn there with PBride n Sextape for me. Hope it changes but its just cheesy to me
Love Radiant... its like left out parts from ATF and ST to my ears. Whole record is really starting to feel a type of way for me and i really really enjoy the hell out of it. Going into Headless for about the 10th time right now.... great intro. Cant determine if its the opening of an old creaky door effect or Chino making that throaty sound during the intro. That 2 seconds is fucking cool bc idk and it goes with it so well. If that makes sense ::)
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
How about right before Chino sings "were miles beyond the sound!" for the last time at the very end of that last chorus how Stephs guitar climbs like that with Chino's voice in those few seconds?! :o FUCKING POWERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL.....like PERFECT
As he's singing "were floating thru the ether"...its right at ether his guitar just screams
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
Spell, Radiant, Urantia, and ESPECIALLY Headless. Wow that track is beautiful.
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but c'mon.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but. c'mon.
And they just released their most compex record ever 8)
Anyone else's exclusive vinyl from deftonesmerch still stuck in pre-transit?
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but c'mon.
yea i think people are waiting on Stephen to finally break out and write complex riffs and bust out his first true deftones solo since "answers", and write more complex things, but he's not gonna do it, ever. he's even said he doesn't practice or ever pick his guitar up. he doesn't care, at all about improving. he's the weakest link skill wise in the band. but he's good at writing solid stuff that sounds good, and he's consistent, and Chino makes it shine. this band is really about the unique singer. Chino and Abe are the most talented in the band by miles
his most complex riffs on the new album is on Ohms(song) i'm pretty sure. that whole song has great riffs, but the beginning and ending riffs are fairly complex
fun fact, some Stephen solos are on: Sol Invicto "unidose" , "answers"(demo), dallas (eros demo), "i feel fine" butchering the beatles. (then the sorta almost solo in the hearts/wires intro he did). he's shown he can solo to some degree, but 0 willingness whatsoever to put one on a deftones record. super shy to do it? or maybe it would actually kill him, someone has told him they'll kill him if he does, lolz. we could be nice and just count the hearts/wires intro as his first album solo. but i'm pretty mean, so i dunno
and this youtube video 42 sec mark, he solos just goofing around. he could easily slap something like this in the middle or end of a deftones song, but refuses. lol. i never expect it to happen, he'd have done it by now. he's not gonna write too many cky style riffs either (like Ohms), he's set in his way, and everyone knows what to expect from him by now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1shwyyJjQ
https://soundcloud.com/solinvicto/sol-invicto-tapes-unidose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bic3UBXnW8
1:15 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpfu3NfKNHA
56 sec mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx75JmBFrvk
3:33 mark
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 27, 2020, 06:37 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but c'mon.
yea i think people are waiting on Stephen to finally break out and write complex riffs and bust out his first true solo since "answers", but he's not gonna do it, ever. he's even said he doesn't practice or ever pick his guitar up. he doesn't care, at all about improving. he's the weakest link skill wise in the band. but he's good at writing solid stuff that sounds good, and Chino makes it shine. Chino and Abe are the most talented in the band by miles
his most complex riffs on the new album is on Ohms(song) i'm pretty sure. that whole song has great riffs, but the beginning and ending riffs are fairly complex
fun fact, some Stephen solos are on: Sol Invicto "unidose" (not on youtube anymore), "answers"(demo), dallas (eros demo), "i feel fine" butchering the beatles. (then the sorta almost solo in the hearts/wires intro he did). he's shown he can solo to some degree, but 0 willingness whatsoever to put one on a deftones record. super shy to do it? or maybe it would actually kill him, someone has told him they'll kill him if he does, lolz. we could be nice and just count the hearts/wires intro as his first album solo. but i'm pretty mean, so i dunno
and this youtube video 42 sec mark, he solos just goofing around. he could easily slap something like this in the middle or end of a deftones song, but refuses. lol. i never expect it to happen, he'd have done it by now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1shwyyJjQ
Exactly. And Im pretty sure most people in here are not new to the band, so, complaining about something they never bothered to do, is weird.
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
I get it though. I don't think people are expecting him to start shredding, just write parts that lead the song rather than add texture. I think it's just the way they write now - because of Chino and Sergio's songwriting contributions and the collaborative way it works, Stef's role is often adding muscle to a song with little flourishes. It's not like Around The Fur where Stef was writing the riffs and then everyone worked off that.
look at The Spell of Mathematics dominating the poll. havent' listened to the album in a few days, waiting on the real cd to come in the mail in a few days(29th, freaking slow pokes)
update: ok i caved, listening to it again now. didn't wanna wait another 2 days
I think my favourite track is Error at the moment. Love the intro riff, especially when it goes to the low note....and when Chino and Abe come in on the first and second verses.....
"Shiny Candy, Glowing Fruits" - love it
This link is dead.Lost count of how many times i've fapped to this song.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 27, 2020, 06:55 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
I get it though. I don't think people are expecting him to start shredding, just write parts that lead the song rather than add texture. I think it's just the way they write now - because of Chino and Sergio's songwriting contributions and the collaborative way it works, Stef's role is often adding muscle to a song with little flourishes. It's not like Around The Fur where Stef was writing the riffs and then everyone worked off that.
i do think he was more creative on the 6 string. interesting that Ohms is basically a 6 string song, and it's my fav riffs from the album. go back to 6 Steffy
Absolutely immersed in 'Ohms'. Such a good album. At loss for words. Ninth album and seventh album cycle I got to get into from the start (I got into the band when Around The Fur was out for a bit). So, so happy.
Very much into Error this weekend. Love how the track goes all spacey in the second half, reminds me of Entombed in that I can just drown in those sounds.
My fave track with Radiant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cftlFMtCZuI
UK people - this is on now
https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1310309035451846656?s=19
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 27, 2020, 07:33 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 27, 2020, 06:55 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
I get it though. I don't think people are expecting him to start shredding, just write parts that lead the song rather than add texture. I think it's just the way they write now - because of Chino and Sergio's songwriting contributions and the collaborative way it works, Stef's role is often adding muscle to a song with little flourishes. It's not like Around The Fur where Stef was writing the riffs and then everyone worked off that.
i do think he was more creative on the 6 string.
I kinda agree with you on that.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 27, 2020, 08:08 PM
UK people - this is on now
https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1310309035451846656?s=19
wonder if the radio received some instrumentals, ohms music playing in the intro
Interesting info that Chino wrote and recorded completely different vocal parts for Genesis ("more meandering"), then started over and wrote what's on the record.
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 27, 2020, 08:08 PM
UK people - this is on now
https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1310309035451846656?s=19
Argh I'd forgotten, thank god for the start from the beginning button!
Awesome takes from the band about each song. Tnx for the reminder, LG95!
This radio show is a proper Deftones treat, I recommend everyone go and listen!
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
Sounds like the opinions of others is hurting your feelings. They are just opinions. You're entitled to feel differently. You're not in the band. Don't let it bother you so much.
Anyone know if the BBC radio deftones show will be re-uploaded on YouTube? Can't listen to it right now
I think some of us have been wanting more from Stef for years because he flashed more potential in their earlier days. I was listening to DE and KNY earlier today (as well as Ohms) and it finally hit me that he is what he is. There aren't going to be anymore Around the Fur (album) type songs. He likes to ride that low bass string now and has for the last 4 albums. Nothing wrong with what he does but it's time for some of us to just lower our expectations when it comes to his writing.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Sep 27, 2020, 10:34 PM
Quote from: Far away on Sep 27, 2020, 05:22 PM
Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.
Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.
A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.
Get over it.
Sounds like the opinions of others is hurting your feelings. They are just opinions. You're entitled to feel differently. You're not in the band. Don't let it bother you so much.
Hurt my feelings? Nah... I just find interesting how everyones an expert on the internet.
Urantia at 2.17-2.22 - do I have a technical problem with my speakers or this weird sound is really there? What is it? Sounds like Chino is devouring his cereals
I mean some people listen with their hearts, others with their heads, and others still somewhere in between; I think articulating what could have made the album stronger for you personally doesn't constitute bench musicianship. For example, I like the album a lot, more with every listen, but know I could have liked it even more with some small production tweaks. Does that mean I'm even 1% as talented of a producer as Terry Date? Heck no, haha--but that doesn't mean everything he touches is perfect and infallible, especially when subjectivity enters the arena. I think most people offering up criticism know they couldn't have personally done better, but that doesn't mean they can't hear something in their mind's ear that they wish would have been pressed onto record.
Anywho, just wanted to offer my two cents 'cause I think there's a difference between claiming to be an expert and offering criticism. I know where you're coming from though, and certainly there are people in this world who seem to want to dislike everything; I haven't been seeing much of that here, however, and people generally seem to either really like the album (plus or minus some small issues with it), or at least they seem like they really WANT to like the album, haha. Happy listening y'all!
I'm trying really hard not to sound like a pathetic fanboy, but this album is more than I could have ever expected from the boys this late in their career. It may very well crack my top 3 by the time all is said and done, something I never thought possible.
I don't think the songs sound "simplistic" at all, in fact, I think this may just be their most experimental album to date, with a vast and disparate array of influences. Though none of the riffs are particularly complicated or difficult to play (they never have been), the sounds themselves and the composition and placement of those sounds are certainly far from mainstream or generic. And even more so once you combine that with the more prevalent keys and samples coming from Frank. I actually think this is quite the challenging record, from a listening standpoint, which is why I think you're seeing even the pretentious music community jump on board with this one.
Did i say this record is ridiculously good? I got to thinking again about how most music especially this music for me, needs time to breath with every one of their records. I love em even more as time goes by. That being said proves to me at least, why its hard to compare to past ones and rate it anywhere in the discography. Bc ill most likely like it more than today. It potentially could be my favorite at some point. Honest to god. Its top 3 for me already. I love em all equally though if that makes sense. But fuuuuuk this is a good record and i dont seem to tire from it like i did the last 3 quickly. I still listen to em casually but they were never this. Love OHMS
Yeah, personally I think the writing is very solid on this album all around. What some people are referring to as lazy guitar, I hear as groovy. This album has a serious groove, especially from tracks 5-10, and what I love most about this album is how it feels like a complete piece of work rather than a collection of random tracks. The more I listen, the more individuality I get from each track as well, so I think they hit a great balance between having individual songs stand out just enough without feeling out of place.
I will say though that I imagine Stef's incredibly thick guitar tone, coupled with his low tunings, might be making it difficult for producers to find space for everyone else as far as goes mixing and mastering. From a style/writing standpoint I'm behind Stef on this album, but I think the band as a whole might benefit from him experimenting in C and B again with a 7 string. I don't want him to sacrifice tone to clear up sonic space on future records, 'cause to me his tone is very massive and very refined (i.e. I absolutely love it and imagine it was hard earned, haha), and I'm honestly along for the ride with whatever he wants to write, so tuning up and cutting a couple strings is just a quick and dirty solution that comes to mind. Obviously I'm not saying he needs to do this, and I'm not saying this is the only way forward, but I can see how it might be helpful for the band and producers when it comes to the ease of cutting more really dynamic records in the future.
But yes, to be clear, I think Stef did a great job on this record, along with everyone else, and I think the boys should be really proud of what they put out here!
This record is incredible and exceeded my expectations. Ceremony is probably my favorite song they've done since white pony. At least s/t. The chorus/bridge drop back into the chorus gives me chills every time.
"So I'm leaving you tonight
It's not fun here anymore
I'll be joining the parade
Of the ghosts who came before"
And the track is short enough where it leaves you begging for more. Hell, the whole album is like that. Quickest 46 minutes every time. Wish they would've finished that 11th track.
Ceremony, Spell, and Pompeji are my top three but to me there's not a mediocre track on it.
I never thought this album would have a more infectious line than 'time won't change this' but 'it's all an illusion' is getting up there.
did anybody here got their budle + hoodie? would you mind sharing a few pics ?
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 28, 2020, 02:28 AM
did anybody here got their budle + hoodie? would you mind sharing a few pics ?
I haven't even gotten an email or anything saying my bundle shipped. Has anyone gotten any emails?
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 26, 2020, 03:45 PM
I'm never getting over TSOM. Feels like my soul is leaving my body.
;D lol yeah it's that good to me too.
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Sep 27, 2020, 11:26 PM
I mean some people listen with their hearts, others with their heads, and others still somewhere in between; I think articulating what could have made the album stronger for you personally doesn't constitute bench musicianship. For example, I like the album a lot, more with every listen, but know I could have liked it even more with some small production tweaks. Does that mean I'm even 1% as talented of a producer as Terry Date? Heck no, haha--but that doesn't mean everything he touches is perfect and infallible, especially when subjectivity enters the arena. I think most people offering up criticism know they couldn't have personally done better, but that doesn't mean they can't hear something in their mind's ear that they wish would have been pressed onto record.
Anywho, just wanted to offer my two cents 'cause I think there's a difference between claiming to be an expert and offering criticism. I know where you're coming from though, and certainly there are people in this world who seem to want to dislike everything; I haven't been seeing much of that here, however, and people generally seem to either really like the album (plus or minus some small issues with it), or at least they seem like they really WANT to like the album, haha. Happy listening y'all!
The way you just did it, calm, collected, explaining your points, thats a better way to do it than just lash out a band member just because. I guess, in the end, I did the same thing with the people that I tought were overly complaining. My comments were a little harsh, for sure, and thats bad.
Quote from: OnyxPanicProne on Sep 28, 2020, 03:17 AM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 28, 2020, 02:28 AM
did anybody here got their budle + hoodie? would you mind sharing a few pics ?
I haven't even gotten an email or anything saying my bundle shipped. Has anyone gotten any emails?
Got an email on friday with a tracking number but there's no info on it yet.
Its been a long time...but its great to be back here with such an amazing work by our fellow deftones.
I love all tracks but Urantia and TLID (part II of WGTB) are my favorites now. On the other hand, Pompeji and Ceremony seemed to me as the weakest, but still good.
Every Deftones record has that one song, that ONE song that reaches me on a deep level and that song for me on this record is TSOM. It has everything: guitar, mood, lyrics/vocal melodies, etc.. For me, it shits on everything post S/T. The first four will always be the best to me, not to say I don't think the rest are any good, it's just nothing they've done since can really touch them cause they're masterpieces. Now past that I'd say DE is easily my favorite. That being said, I love TSOM more than any song on DE, but idk if I like the album Ohms as a whole better than DE... I can listen to DE from start to finish but I find myself already skipping Error and TLID. Of course, I may need to let the album sink in some more.
And now the moment you all were waiting for...
:D
1. TSOM
2. Genesis
3. Urantia
4. Ohms
5. Ceremony
6. Pompeji
7. Headless
8. Radiant City
9. Error
10. TLID
Quote from: only pieces remain on Sep 28, 2020, 03:38 AM
Quote from: OnyxPanicProne on Sep 28, 2020, 03:17 AM
Quote from: DenakDW on Sep 28, 2020, 02:28 AM
did anybody here got their budle + hoodie? would you mind sharing a few pics ?
I haven't even gotten an email or anything saying my bundle shipped. Has anyone gotten any emails?
Got an email on friday with a tracking number but there's no info on it yet.
Wellll shit. Hope I get an email soon, I wanna rep ohms with the t-shirt 8)
And get that sweet sweet album rip
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 26, 2020, 01:28 AM
Truthfully though I can't connect to Urantia at all.
dude, brah... c'mon. Urantia is smoove...
idk if I'm biased just because I was literally circling around a lake all weekend while listening to this new record lol. But I think Urantia is fucking killer. It's really weird, the 30 sec clip was the only leak I heard and I thought it'd be like one of the ones I didn't care much for, but after hearing it proper I really really dig it .
Is 'Honey' Chinos word for this album ? :)
('woo' shouldn't count)
Probably just continuing a metaphor. To be fair.
I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything. I guess I wasn't expecting this sort of album flow. I don't dislike any of it.
Do people that love SNW have trouble with some of these songs? I'm interested.. Not enough softer kind of songs or something? I like how dynamic it is.
I might be drunk on absinthe but I want all you haters to know something. I know what it's like to be disappointed by a new album but think about this: These fucking guys just made Ohms, and it has The Spell of Mathematics, Genesis, and Urantia on it... Jesus Christ is it good. The mere fact that they can still make songs like this should give you some kind of feeling. If not, I feel sorry sorry for you. :-*
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
:) :) Keep racking :) I agree. Albums is sick.
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
Are you out on the Absinthe making forum posts? You need to get something into yourself to straighten you up. So you don't end up in another city when you get out of the cab home :D (jokes.) Ps - I could tell you were hammered, have a good night, stay safe you crazy mofo :)
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
Are you out on the Absinthe making forum posts? You need to get something into yourself to straighten you up. So you don't end up in another city when you get out of the cab home :D (jokes.) Ps - I could tell you were hammered, have a good night, stay safe you crazy mofo :)
I'm cool ashit man thanks im at home my gfs asleep about to smoke and listen to this shit. Damn I'm feeling it lol. It's funny because I was supposed to take my bottle of absinthe to the lake I was circling all weekend but I forgot it. Didnt forget it tonight haha
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
Are you out on the Absinthe making forum posts? You need to get something into yourself to straighten you up. So you don't end up in another city when you get out of the cab home :D (jokes.) Ps - I could tell you were hammered, have a good night, stay safe you crazy mofo :)
I'm cool ashit man thanks im at home my gfs asleep about to smoke and listen to this shit. Damn I'm feeling it lol. It's funny because I was supposed to take my bottle of absinthe to the lake I was circling all weekend but I forgot it. Didnt forget it tonight haha
Alright that's good to hear :) Crank some Ohms and blaze with it. :)
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Is 'Honey' Chinos word for this album ? :)
('woo' shouldn't count)
It's all about the honey and LEDGES.
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Is 'Honey' Chinos word for this album ? :)
('woo' shouldn't count)
It's all about the honey and LEDGES.
:)
Honey, lake and ledges.
What the hell is going on with these preorders!? :'(
Has anyone actually got the cassettes or tshirts or hoodies or anything yet? Anywhere in the world? Mine have been in 'Status: Packing' limbo since Friday.
I'll be crying honey tears over the ledge at the lake until it arrives.
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Honey, lake and ledges.
don't forget writhe in a couple different tracks. And through.
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What the hell is going on with these preorders!? :'(
Has anyone actually got the cassettes or tshirts or hoodies or anything yet? Anywhere in the world? Mine have been in 'Status: Packing' limbo since Friday.
I'll be crying honey tears over the ledge at the lake until it arrives.
Same exact here. Just checked again this morning, still no update.
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
Are you out on the Absinthe making forum posts? You need to get something into yourself to straighten you up. So you don't end up in another city when you get out of the cab home :D (jokes.) Ps - I could tell you were hammered, have a good night, stay safe you crazy mofo :)
I'm cool ashit man thanks im at home my gfs asleep about to smoke and listen to this shit. Damn I'm feeling it lol. It's funny because I was supposed to take my bottle of absinthe to the lake I was circling all weekend but I forgot it. Didnt forget it tonight haha
Alright that's good to hear :) Crank some Ohms and blaze with it. :)
Why don't you two call each other or take it up on the bullshit thread? Sorry I had to I couldn't help myself ;D
I emailed the Deftones store about the vinyl bundle. This is what I got back.
" Thanks for your support!
Orders have started to ship, however, we are experiencing some delays. The fulfillment center is working hard to get all orders shipped ASAP. This doesn't mean that your item hasn't shipped - only that we're getting tracking numbers delayed.
You will receive an email with the tracking details once as we receive them.
Please note that to speed up the process, some orders have shipped separately with the music (CDs and Vinyls) shipping ahead.
Our apologies for the inconvenience, but we're working hard to get all these out as quickly as possible while maintaining COVID safety measures"
DAMN YOU COVIIIDDDD
BBC Radio 1 Rock Show Deftones Special from last night listen again for anyone who needs it :)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mxzr
Finally got a response about my pre order. Its delayed with no date for when it will arrive, what a joke.
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Is 'Honey' Chinos word for this album ? :)
('woo' shouldn't count)
Chino wouldn't shut up about "honey" on wp either , just listen to elite
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
Are you out on the Absinthe making forum posts? You need to get something into yourself to straighten you up. So you don't end up in another city when you get out of the cab home :D (jokes.) Ps - I could tell you were hammered, have a good night, stay safe you crazy mofo :)
I'm cool ashit man thanks im at home my gfs asleep about to smoke and listen to this shit. Damn I'm feeling it lol. It's funny because I was supposed to take my bottle of absinthe to the lake I was circling all weekend but I forgot it. Didnt forget it tonight haha
Alright that's good to hear :) Crank some Ohms and blaze with it. :)
That's cute, i remember when i had my first beer.
So I was unable to listen to the album since Friday cause work was a bit nuts....and I always like to just take a couple of hours to sit back with a coffee (now that I'm almost 40), turn my phone off, and listen to any new Deftones album twice in a row. And I just had this feeling that Ohms needed to be listened to without interruption. So I finally got a chance today, and from the first listen I knew I was listening to something special by the band. There were some songs that instantly stood out, but on the 2nd listen I was just completely blown away. I know that there is still so much to unpack going forward, but this is an album any band should be proud of. They've really pushed themselves with the song writing, and it's beautiful hearing each of the band members shining on the album. In fact, it almost feels like Chino's taken a bit of a back seat on this one, and allowed the other members to really shine. It's the same feeling I got when listening to the last Tool album. This album really exceeded my expectations, especially since Gore was an album I found hard to really go back to apart from a few songs. My wife started laughing because I just couldn't stop smiling after I was done listening to OHMs today. This is exactly why I love this band - 20 years after White pony got me hooked, they're still able to move me, and stiill manage to make the hair on my arms stand when I hear them pull off something beautiful and powerful. I don't think I've felt this way about a new album of theirs since SNW, even though I loved DE & KNY. But those 2 albums never moved me the way Ohms has. This album is going to be on repeat in the weeks to come for sure.
Thats awesome. Its how i feel abt it too
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What the hell is going on with these preorders!? :'(
Has anyone actually got the cassettes or tshirts or hoodies or anything yet? Anywhere in the world? Mine have been in 'Status: Packing' limbo since Friday.
I'll be crying honey tears over the ledge at the lake until it arrives.
Received the 3 cassettes without the signed art card. There has been a delay with them.
Received gold vinyl indie from Banquet,
Also received CD from separate Deftones UK preorder.
Still waiting on everything else.
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
Are you out on the Absinthe making forum posts? You need to get something into yourself to straighten you up. So you don't end up in another city when you get out of the cab home :D (jokes.) Ps - I could tell you were hammered, have a good night, stay safe you crazy mofo :)
I'm cool ashit man thanks im at home my gfs asleep about to smoke and listen to this shit. Damn I'm feeling it lol. It's funny because I was supposed to take my bottle of absinthe to the lake I was circling all weekend but I forgot it. Didnt forget it tonight haha
Alright that's good to hear :) Crank some Ohms and blaze with it. :)
That's cute, i remember when i had my first beer.
Drinking from your mum's titty doesn't count. :-*
My fav changes every couple of days. Now I'm obsessed with TSOM and think it may be the best on the album.
It wasn't even in my top 3 a few days ago. Man I can't stop bumping this thing. 😍
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What the hell is going on with these preorders!? :'(
Has anyone actually got the cassettes or tshirts or hoodies or anything yet? Anywhere in the world? Mine have been in 'Status: Packing' limbo since Friday.
I'll be crying honey tears over the ledge at the lake until it arrives.
Received the 3 cassettes without the signed art card. There has been a delay with them.
Received gold vinyl indie from Banquet,
Also received CD from separate Deftones UK preorder.
Still waiting on everything else.
Have they said if they'll send on the signed art card later?
I still don't get this love for TSOM, I think it's one of the weakest tracks while Urantia is one of the best songs ever made by them. The chorus of TSOM is just meh, while the chorus of Urantia is really catchy and dreamy. I prefer Error and Ohms, and TLID over TSOM.
Quote from: ChubbyChino on Sep 28, 2020, 06:42 PM
I still don't get this love for TSOM, I think it's one of the weakest tracks while Urantia is one of the best songs ever made by them. The chorus of TSOM is just meh, while the chorus of Urantia is really catchy and dreamy. I prefer Error and Ohms, and TLID over TSOM.
Thats strange to me bc Urantia isnt really a signature"Deftones song"imo. Sounds like Crosses. Thats interesting though.... i do like both a lot myself (Crosses feat. Steph)
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Interesting info that Chino wrote and recorded completely different vocal parts for Genesis ("more meandering"), then started over and wrote what's on the record.
yes that was interesting. and that ohms was a demo steph sent chino three years ago,but it was waaaay slower. it was like plodding stoner song.
Interesting to see the poll results having the two singles as two of the least favorited tracks on the album; do y'all think Ohms and Genesis were good picks for singles despite not being your favorite tracks, or do you think there are better singles to be found on the album? Any tracks you'd like to see as a third single? Personally I think they'd be smart to pick Pompeji as their next, which is also one of the least favorited tracks on the poll, haha.
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Interesting to see the poll results having the two singles as two of the least favorited tracks on the album; do y'all think Ohms and Genesis were good picks for singles despite not being your favorite tracks, or do you think there are better singles to be found on the album? Any tracks you'd like to see as a third single? Personally I think they'd be smart to pick Pompeji as their next.
Yeah I'm a little surprised by that but then again the singles are rarely the fan favorite songs on their records. Ohms and Genesis are excellent choices as singles imo, they are both great songs but too bad they start and end the album... kinda ruins the album experience a little. I'd expect Urantia to be a third single but who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'd bet that if Genesis and Urantia were swapped as a single then Genesis would be everyone's favorite. That shit slaps.
Why? The title track became a favourite of mine after the album release.
The Spell of Mathematics simply is one of their best songs. I kinda hate to say things like that but seriously. What a composition. The 9-string rhythm is such a cool move. It's also amazing how they're able to use such heavy tools and still come up with a somewhat smooth song, in all its sonic power.
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The Spell of Mathematics simply is one of their best songs. I kinda hate to say things like that but seriously. What a composition. The 9-string rhythm is such a cool move. It's also amazing how they're able to use such heavy tools and still come up with a somewhat smooth song, in all its sonic power.
I've read a no to Urantia from you and now yes to TSOM, are we the only ones with JBL's? ;D
Listened to the album twice, first time through a fairly solid pair of earpieces, second time through a small Anker sound system.
I don't really care to consume my music through a Bose X454546SSWREIK with jetpack propulsion-based bass booster. Okay, I sound like a dick, but better quality playing doesn't have much of an impact on my opinions I gotta say. I don't feel Urantia at all.
I did a song-by-song posting series on the DeftonesLive FB to help promote the album.
For what it's worth, the songs that won the like battle (by a landslide) were "Ceremony", "The Spell of Mathematics" and "This Link is Dead", with 2k+ each. Only "Error" contended a bit, with over 1k+. "The Spell of Mathematics" has got the most likes out of them all.
I'm not counting the likes that "Genesis" and "Ohms" got through the many posts I made of those before that series.
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I did a song-by-song posting series on the DeftonesLive FB to help promote the album.
You need a job with their PR, dude.
The Deftones job I'd like is footage archivist, but hey that'd be cool. ;D
Double pay for the dual role mate lol
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Why? The title track became a favourite of mine after the album release.
Why what? I'm looking at the poll and the title track has 2 votes, Genesis has 5. If we had heard Genesis on release it'd easily be competing with TSOM.
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The Spell of Mathematics simply is one of their best songs. I kinda hate to say things like that but seriously. What a composition. The 9-string rhythm is such a cool move. It's also amazing how they're able to use such heavy tools and still come up with a somewhat smooth song, in all its sonic power.
Sir I agree
Imo, Ohms is a damn good track but not a good pick for a single at all. Ruins the album experience, at least for me. Ironically, even though it's one of my least fav tracks, I think urantia would been the best choice for the first single. Heavy riff track with catchy vocal melody that isn't the closer. Genesis is fine as the second single I think.
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Listened to the album twice, first time through a fairly solid pair of earpieces, second time through a small Anker sound system.
I don't really care to consume my music through a Bose X454546SSWREIK with jetpack propulsion-based bass booster. Okay, I sound like a dick, but better quality playing doesn't have much of an impact on my opinions I gotta say. I don't feel Urantia at all.
It was funny. never thought we would be on the same page about the new songs. Anyways I think TSOM is not a Deftones song, it's a new Deftones song. It's like TSOM is their new road to some kind of TDSOTM (The Dark Side of the Moon), how weird is that?! I think the band will take a new progressive/gaze/experientialism approach in new albums with some Urantias here and there.
I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
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I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
Weird is that I don't recall them talking about PF in recent interviews. It's like an unconsciouness influence.
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I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
Weird is that I don't recall them talking about PF in recent interviews. It's like an unconsciouness influence.
Chino actually mentioned Floyd in the Daniel P Carter stream someone posted a page or two ago.
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I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
Weird is that I don't recall them talking about PF in recent interviews. It's like an unconsciouness influence.
Chino actually mentioned Floyd in the Daniel P Carter stream someone posted a page or two ago.
That was weird. I was midthrough it and yes he comes with PF in the conversation. It was about Pompeji I think... and the seagulls/transitions. That was timing!
God the second half especially of error is just heavenly. I dig it more and more every time I hear it really the whole album in that case. And then how it blends in to spell.damn that is the Deftones I love and can't wait to share with my children
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The Spell of Mathematics simply is one of their best songs. I kinda hate to say things like that but seriously. What a composition. The 9-string rhythm is such a cool move. It's also amazing how they're able to use such heavy tools and still come up with a somewhat smooth song, in all its sonic power.
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I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
Weird is that I don't recall them talking about PF in recent interviews. It's like an unconsciouness influence.
Chino actually mentioned Floyd in the Daniel P Carter stream someone posted a page or two ago.
That was weird. I was midthrough it and yes he comes with PF in the conversation. It was about Pompeji I think... and the seagulls/transitions. That was timing!
"I love transitions. If you're making a record these days, everything's so single driven. If you're gonna make a record that's a piece of music—and it's not a conceptual piece of music, but the fact that every song can sort of transition to one another, when things like that happen; that takes me back to some of my favorite records of all-time, be it Pink Floyd or whatever..." There's also mentions of "Floydian moments"
Chino on the making of the record @ 1:38:56
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I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
Weird is that I don't recall them talking about PF in recent interviews. It's like an unconsciouness influence.
Chino actually mentioned Floyd in the Daniel P Carter stream someone posted a page or two ago.
That was weird. I was midthrough it and yes he comes with PF in the conversation. It was about Pompeji I think... and the seagulls/transitions. That was timing!
"I love transitions. If you're making a record these days, everything's so single driven. If you're gonna make a record that's a piece of music—and it's not a conceptual piece of music, but the fact that every song can sort of transition to one another, when things like that happen; that takes me back to some of my favorite records of all-time, be it Pink Floyd or whatever..."
Chino on the making of the record @ 1:38:56
there u go!
Nice avatar/sig man ;)
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 28, 2020, 09:24 PM
I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
Weird is that I don't recall them talking about PF in recent interviews. It's like an unconsciouness influence.
Chino actually mentioned Floyd in the Daniel P Carter stream someone posted a page or two ago.
That was weird. I was midthrough it and yes he comes with PF in the conversation. It was about Pompeji I think... and the seagulls/transitions. That was timing!
"I love transitions. If you're making a record these days, everything's so single driven. If you're gonna make a record that's a piece of music—and it's not a conceptual piece of music, but the fact that every song can sort of transition to one another, when things like that happen; that takes me back to some of my favorite records of all-time, be it Pink Floyd or whatever..."
Chino on the making of the record @ 1:38:56
there u go!
Nice avatar/sig man ;)
Thanks! I drew the avatar myself. I did one of Chi, which I'll have to post at some point.
Yeah, luckily I didn't listen to the singles before the album dropped, so I'm not taken out of the experience when they play on the record. That being said, I did have an internal debate after the first two listens if Headless and Ohms should have been switched in the track lineup, but I think they definitely made the right call with Ohms as the closer; I'm not sure I'd feel that way if I had listened to the track a lot out of context of the album though.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 28, 2020, 09:24 PM
I feel that too. And as for your Pink Floyd reference, the beginning of Headless with that "ambient" and Chino's faded shouts really reminded of some Pink Floyd.
Weird is that I don't recall them talking about PF in recent interviews. It's like an unconsciouness influence.
Chino actually mentioned Floyd in the Daniel P Carter stream someone posted a page or two ago.
Wasnt the first time i heard him or Abe mention PF. I wanna say during the KNY cycle..... about the intro to Rosemary. I THINK it was abt that anyways
Speaking of listening to the singles. I hate that I listened to them now and I had a pretty good idea that I would I even held out on Genesis for a few days. Now I rarely play them the last few days because I think if I do that for a while and kind of forget about them then I can revisit it as a package again. I'll bet my life I'm not the only one. I will never do it again
#5 on the list.
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/deftones-white-pony-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-game-changing-alt-metal-classic (https://www.revolvermag.com/music/deftones-white-pony-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-game-changing-alt-metal-classic)
That's so fucking crazy... I was listening to Dark Side Of The Moon a lot at the time when someone said: "here listen to this cd" and it was WP... :o
i dom't think genesis is the true 2nd single, or really a single at all. i think it's kinda like rocket skates, sextape, beauty school, bloody cape, etc.. video made for it, but not really meant as radio single. Ohms is still the main radio single, and doing ok still
This might come off sounding stupid and may not make sense but I was just thinking what if they had named the album "the spell of mathematics"? It's just a great album title as it is a great song title and the majority says it's the best song on the album as well... not that an album should be named after its best song but that's subjective anyways. Great Deftones album name IMO but it's Ohms
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not that an album should be named after its best song
I mean, there's "Around the Fur" and "White Pony" was the tentative name for "Korea"... ;D
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not that an album should be named after its best song
I mean, there's "Around the Fur" and "White Pony" was the tentative name for "Korea"... ;D
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/rkXNems5uxExG/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47me4m8twzukn1feewxvrfg8im5l59sdyq242a9ufo&rid=giphy.gif)
Did anyone happen to catch this Chino x NTS Radio?...
https://www.facebook.com/5544067490/videos/645750456334017 (https://www.facebook.com/5544067490/videos/645750456334017)
^ Caught a little bit of it. He played Team Sleep's Formant M and closed it with a Tarantel song.
I remember Floyd coming up a lot during the SNW cycle when Bob Ezrin (who has done a lot of production work for Pink Floyd) was still on the project. We all know how that went, but as has been said, Pink Floyd seems to have been somewhere on the influence spectrum for quite a while.
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not that an album should be named after its best song
I mean, there's "Around the Fur" and "White Pony" was the tentative name for "Korea"... ;D
Never mind what I said, what is your point? Or points? Who says which is the best song? I just wanted to say it would have been a great album name. It sounds great to me anyways
Error should have been first single.
You guys sure love this Error song huh?
I like it a lot more than I did initially, the 2nd half of the song is way better than the first imo. Would you think that Error would make a good closer? I'm not sure I like the sequencing of the album all that much. I love the transitions between songs but I feel they could have tweaked the song sequence a bit. And as much as I like Ceremony it just does not flow well from Genesis, the momentum of that song is broken so abruptly and it feels out of sequence. I would have had Urantia come afterwards.
Just got an email that my hoodie/vinyl/zine shipped.
This album is pure bliss. I usually don't try to harass my friends and family to check out a new Deftones album but I've convinced some people in my life to give it a chance and they all love it... At first I assumed it wouldn't resonate with non fans because it's not an immediately catchy album but it's had a great impression on people I've spoken with about it. They appreciate and were impressed with all of the elements coming together on each song and the atmosphere the band can create. Maybe now they'll understand why they're my favorite band lol
I've been trying to resist listening to it that much until I can experience it on vinyl, which should be here friday.
I totally agree: this album is pure bliss. I didn't expect such a powerful and organic comeback, especially after Gore and KNY (or even SNW).
After many listenings, I'm still amazed by every songs (and all the textures in them) and how well everything works together from start to finish.
Urantia, Ceremony, Error, TSOM, Radiant City, Headless.. I can't even choose.
I listened to the whole discography several times this last month and even if there are no bad albums (except maybe Gore IMO), my final ranking so far is :
01. Ohms
02. DE
03. ST
04. ATF
05. WP
06. KNY
07. SNW
08. Adrenaline
09. Gore
Extremely happy how positive most of us are about the new album and how everyone seems to have different favorites :-)
Good times to be a fan
I'm enjoying Ohms immensely, however I can't see how it could be anyone's #1 when it's been out for 4 days. But more power to ya if it is.
For those still curious about the Pompeji title: during the Saturday Night Wrist cycle (I think it was the Nov-Dec tour specifically), they used the song "Pompeji" by Camouflage as the intro track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG5PBd265lI
As heard on this audio set at 00:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYk2huH7xSI
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I love the whole album - but my favs are the bottom three of the guy that rated the songs on the page or two before. TLID into Radiant City and I also love Error. It's just a wicked album. Flows well. I don't skip anything.
Hey im that guy drunka asashit lolsz muthafucka hell e=yeass I love it ttooooooooooo deftone for ever all you fuckking hater bitchessssssss..
Hahaha classic. Do you need me to call an ambulance?
If not keep rockin!
I'm cool bro, lol. thanks. I love this album. TO EACH THEIR OWN LOVE IT! THIS IS OUR TIME!
I am drunka shit on absinthe tho ;D
Are you out on the Absinthe making forum posts? You need to get something into yourself to straighten you up. So you don't end up in another city when you get out of the cab home :D (jokes.) Ps - I could tell you were hammered, have a good night, stay safe you crazy mofo :)
I'm cool ashit man thanks im at home my gfs asleep about to smoke and listen to this shit. Damn I'm feeling it lol. It's funny because I was supposed to take my bottle of absinthe to the lake I was circling all weekend but I forgot it. Didnt forget it tonight haha
Alright that's good to hear :) Crank some Ohms and blaze with it. :)
Why don't you two call each other or take it up on the bullshit thread? Sorry I had to I couldn't help myself ;D
LOL. sorry about that tbh.
The intro of Headless is in my heart a beautiful tribute to this song:
https://youtu.be/eaf08gtiitU
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I did a song-by-song posting series on the DeftonesLive FB to help promote the album.
For what it's worth, the songs that won the like battle (by a landslide) were "Ceremony", "The Spell of Mathematics" and "This Link is Dead", with 2k+ each. Only "Error" contended a bit, with over 1k+. "The Spell of Mathematics" has got the most likes out of them all.
I'm not counting the likes that "Genesis" and "Ohms" got through the many posts I made of those before that series.
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God the second half especially of error is just heavenly. I dig it more and more every time I hear it really the whole album in that case. And then how it blends in to spell.damn that is the Deftones I love and can't wait to share with my children
Yeah those two together are wild.
Also the end of Pomeji (twin peaks lel) into TLID and Radiant. I can see them starting a show with a sample of the end of Pompeji and busting those two tracks right out of the gate on a setlist one day in the future :)
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The intro of Headless is in my heart a beautiful tribute to this song:
https://youtu.be/eaf08gtiitU
100 percent. Good catch.
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I'm enjoying Ohms immensely, however I can't see how it could be anyone's #1 when it's been out for 4 days. But more power to ya if it is.
I totally understand your point.
Let me explain: simply because it's everything I was waiting from them since a long time. Something that takes me away from beginning to end without anything to skip, ambient, catchy, sensual and heavy without anything "forced".
They almost had already achieved this with DE and ST (IMO), but it's even better here. Everything feels so compact and coherent.
Hello, anyone there who ordered the cassette bundle has arrived him? Me i have it but, it has come without seal and i do not received the Ohms art card.
Headless is a masterpiece and I think it's one of the greatest songs they have ever made. Serg really KILLS it on that song. Wow....
Only songs I'm having trouble getting in to is TLID and Error...
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as much as I like Ceremony it just does not flow well from Genesis, the momentum of that song is broken so abruptly and it feels out of sequence. I would have had Urantia come afterwards.
To be honest, White Pony starts with Feiticeira, then Digital Bath straight into Elite. It doesn't just break the momentum, it slaughters it and throws it around, but somehow it works (or does it? I remember always being caught off guard until I got used to it), so maybe that's what they were thinking of when choosing sequencing for this one.
It's kind of interesting how the 2 most popular songs are the most polarizing it seems
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Headless is a masterpiece and I think it's one of the greatest songs they have ever made. Serg really KILLS it on that song. Wow....
Only songs I'm having trouble getting in to is TLID and Error...
damn - those ones were easy for me to get into.. how do you feel about radiant then?
The chorus in error is so catchy IMO.
I feel this one is like their 'Bruce Lee' record ...it just 'flows like water'. (sic)
We need to talk about the fact that Ceremony basically has two completely different choruses. Both brilliant.
after about 10 listens,these are my current grades (NOTE:by deftones standards)
5/5 geneis
4.5 spell of mathematics
4/5 this link is dead,pompeji,headless
3/5 ceremony,urantia,error,ohms
2/5 radiant city
possibly the best album since fantastic four (adrenaline,ATF,WP,S/T).
The 3/5's are like eating fudge but with the paper still wrapped around it, you kinda taste its savory thrill, but you want more of it
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after about 10 listens,these are my current grades (NOTE:by deftones standards)
5/5 geneis
4.5 spell of mathematics
4/5 this link is dead,pompeji,headless
3/5 ceremony,urantia,error,ohms
2/5 radiant city
possibly the best album since fantastic four (adrenaline,ATF,WP,S/T).
The 3/5's are like eating fudge but with the paper still wrapped around it, you kinda taste its savory thrill, but you want more of it
Interesting about radiant.
I think I might change my favourite songs to 'Honey' and 'Ledges'
Still struggling a bit with Radiant City but I'm sure I'll come round to it.... I equally love and hate the main riff at the same time.
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The intro of Headless is in my heart a beautiful tribute to this song:
https://youtu.be/eaf08gtiitU
That track is beautiful. Any similar recommendations?
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I'd recommend that whole album and basically most of Cocteau Twins discography, as well as Harold Budd's.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 29, 2020, 09:45 AM
after about 10 listens,these are my current grades (NOTE:by deftones standards)
5/5 geneis
4.5 spell of mathematics
4/5 this link is dead,pompeji,headless
3/5 ceremony,urantia,error,ohms
2/5 radiant city
possibly the best album since fantastic four (adrenaline,ATF,WP,S/T).
The 3/5's are like eating fudge but with the paper still wrapped around it, you kinda taste its savory thrill, but you want more of it
My choices would be almost completely reversed from yours. I consider Radiant City, Ceremony, and Headless as the best songs with Genesis being the pretty clear worst for me.
The exception to this rule of reversal is TSOM, which everyone seems to like (for good reason).
Genesis is really good and I think it's the worst on here by a distance.
Funny how on first listen through, ceremony did nothing for me. After a few days, it's been quickly climbing up my list. Favorite is still headless - the middle to end of that track is just... *chef's kiss* - but ceremony isn't far behind. It's just another reminder that deftones songs are like fine wine.
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BBC Radio 1 Rock Show Deftones Special from last night listen again for anyone who needs it :)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mxzr
Thanks for this link! That was a really good listen, it was interesting to hear Chino talk about how living where he was made him less creative for the past 6 years. Makes me wonder if that's why Crosses or Palms hasn't been touched since then. And hearing them talk about Pink Floyd was awesome, they are one my favorite bands too.
Imagine if Deftones did do a concept album tho. Or just any side project with Chino. The way Chino likes to make stories in his songs it would make sense to me.
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I'd recommend that whole album and basically most of Cocteau Twins discography, as well as Harold Budd's.
Thanks. Will check it out.
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as much as I like Ceremony it just does not flow well from Genesis, the momentum of that song is broken so abruptly and it feels out of sequence. I would have had Urantia come afterwards.
To be honest, White Pony starts with Feiticeira, then Digital Bath straight into Elite. It doesn't just break the momentum, it slaughters it and throws it around, but somehow it works (or does it? I remember always being caught off guard until I got used to it), so maybe that's what they were thinking of when choosing sequencing for this one.
I suppose you do have a point, but when I went back to listen to the sequence it seems to flow really well. This is most likely because there is a good 15 sec of fade out on Feiticeira into DB and then a good 20 sec of fade out until Elite begins. Genesis just abruptly ends and then Ceremony begins right away with slower tempo guitar plucking intro, it just sounds odd to me and doesn't flow... but that's my ears, maybe not anyone else's. I still love the album and the transitions. Frank did a phenomenal job. Listen to Ohms in a playlist and switch around Urantia and Ceremony, and you'll see how much better the momentum carries. ;)
This album is bat shit crazy good. I can't get enough of it. There's lots of things that bring to mind other bands from The Cure to Duran fucking Duran and Headless is currently my favourite.
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The intro of Headless is in my heart a beautiful tribute to this song:
https://youtu.be/eaf08gtiitU
That track is beautiful. Any similar recommendations?
As LG said, their whole discography pretty much. But since that's a lot to go through I'll tell you some of my top CT:
Garlands (the entire album)
Pink Orange Red (the song is like an out of body experience)
Ribbed and Veined
Athol-Brose
Pepper Tree
Sugar Hiccup
Pearly Dew Drop Drops
Cherry Coloured Funk
and many more obviously but that's a good starting point.
Quote from: Moana91 on Sep 29, 2020, 07:39 AM
The intro of Headless is in my heart a beautiful tribute to this song:
https://youtu.be/eaf08gtiitU
Harold Budd has another song called Radiant City.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EObjZc2cDP4
Had an email about the signed art cards to say my pre-orders will ship over the next couple of days
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Had an email about the signed art cards to say my pre-orders will ship over the next couple of days
Just got that too together with an another saying that the vinyl/zine has been delayed.
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Had an email about the signed art cards to say my pre-orders will ship over the next couple of days
Just got that too together with an another saying that the vinyl/zine has been delayed.
lol, just got a second email to saying the same!
Oh yea, I got an email yesterday that my order shipped. Should get it by Thursday...
It's not the end of the world but obviously would have been nice if this hadn't been the case.
Still, we have the music and all is well.
just listened to it again, i think the 7th time. my actual cd finally came today, so it sounded better than the ripped cd i was listening to. no complaints about the album, it's pretty awesome(can't rank it yet, way too early). but i was listening for the drums more because of what Ves said, and he's right, they don't pop as much as the first few albums. but that's been a problem for over 10 years now, so maybe that's something hard to get right. otherwise mixed as well as anything since s/t. but i do wish Abe stood out more in the mix, cause he's a way over avg drummer
I know many of you love Terry Date but I do not think this is his best work. Listen to Self-titled vs Ohms on some high-quality headphones and you'll see what I mean. What's with all the effects on chino? Room reverb + saturation, not really diggin it, and its not really subtle. I really wish Chino would go back to recording on the Shure SM58. You can hear that different parts were recorded on different mics (probably different studios) all within the same song. Kind of annoying.
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just listened to it again, i think the 7th time. my actual cd finally came today, so it sounded better than the ripped cd i was listening to. no complaints about the album, it's pretty awesome(can't rank it yet, way too early). but i was listening for the drums more because of what Ves said, and he's right, they don't pop as much as the first few albums. but that's been a problem for over 10 years now, so maybe that's something hard to get right. otherwise mixed as well as anything since s/t. but i do wish Abe stood out more in the mix, cause he's a way over avg drummer
Lots of ppl complained about the drums. But i think some songs are better than others as far as the sound of Abe's drums
I was kind of critical of Stef on some earlier posts but the reality is, I'm really enjoying this album. I'll tell myself I'm not going to listen to it for a couple of days but then a certain part will pop in my head and I'll find myself listening to the whole album again. The guys (Stef included) did a fine job on this album.
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I know many of you love Terry Date but I do not think this is his best work. Listen to Self-titled vs Ohms on some high-quality headphones and you'll see what I mean. What's with all the effects on chino? Room reverb + saturation, not really diggin it, and its not really subtle. I really wish Chino would go back to recording on the Shure SM58. You can hear that different parts were recorded on different mics (probably different studios) all within the same song. Kind of annoying.
Just wnjoy the music then and try not to overanalyze it. Maybe it wont be so "annoying". Or listen to ST and wish they would do it again. Dunno how to fix it. Glad i like it though
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I was kind of critical of Stef on some earlier posts but the reality is, I'm really enjoying this album. I'll tell myself I'm not going to listen to it for a couple of days but then a certain part will pop in my head and I'll find myself listening to the whole album again. The guys (Stef included) did a fine job on this album.
They really did. Good to see youre not letting yourself over analyze everything and just enjoying what IS.
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I know many of you love Terry Date but I do not think this is his best work. Listen to Self-titled vs Ohms on some high-quality headphones and you'll see what I mean. What's with all the effects on chino? Room reverb + saturation, not really diggin it, and its not really subtle. I really wish Chino would go back to recording on the Shure SM58. You can hear that different parts were recorded on different mics (probably different studios) all within the same song. Kind of annoying.
While I love the album, I agree with you. I absolutely hate when they add that damn far away hallway like sound to Chino's voice.. Reminds me of he sounded on Palms and Gore...which I didn't like.. Songs like Urantia, Pompeji and Spell really let his voice shine though without those annoying effects. I'm starting to think it's his decision to do that or something.
I know we all love the fast bass section on radiant city....
But who's with me about that fast bass run at the end of ceremony? Anyone?
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Oh yea, I got an email yesterday that my order shipped. Should get it by Thursday...
I got an email as well but it's still showing as processed and waiting on UPS. So I don't think I'll be getting it Thursday.
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Oh yea, I got an email yesterday that my order shipped. Should get it by Thursday...
I got an email as well but it's still showing as processed and waiting on UPS. So I don't think I'll be getting it Thursday.
Oh... yep, you're right. That's what mine says too "Estimated Delivery" is for Thursday. ::)
I would like to make a Formal Request of the Mods!
This Poll is way early, but I've bought the Ticket and I will take the Ride. Let's clear the results, save them, and do it again a Week later? And while you're at it "3" Votes a piece would be great! Just sayin...XD
Bet the results will be different.
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I would like to make a Formal Request of the Mods!
This Poll is way early, but I've bought the Ticket and I will take the Ride. Let's clear the results, save them, and do it again a Week later? And while you're at it "3" Votes a piece would be great! Just sayin...XD
Bet the results will be different.
naw TSOM still the best song on this, and probably top 5 best deftones song ever.
Come on Buf, I feel your passion but I beg to Differ.
If you give me 3 votes I'm putting them all on TSOM. :D
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If you give me 3 votes I'm putting them all on TSOM. :D
LMAO! Again I love the passion! That's what makes us all the most loyal Tones fans. However my request remains the same. Which track comes in second or third?
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If you give me 3 votes I'm putting them all on TSOM. :D
LMAO! Again I love the passion! That's what makes us all the most loyal Tones fans. However my request remains the same. Which track comes in second or third?
What are your choices rn?
Mine are still:
1. TSOM
2. Genesis
3. Urantia
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If you give me 3 votes I'm putting them all on TSOM. :D
LMAO! Again I love the passion! That's what makes us all the most loyal Tones fans. However my request remains the same. Which track comes in second or third?
What are your choices rn?
Mine are still:
TSOM
Genesis
Urantia
Honestly this is the Gift and curse of being a Deftones fan. At this point in time ... Subject to Change.
1. Pompeji bleeds into TLID (underrated)
2. Ceremony
3. Ohms
Ultimately it's All an Illusion
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If you give me 3 votes I'm putting them all on TSOM. :D
LMAO! Again I love the passion! That's what makes us all the most loyal Tones fans. However my request remains the same. Which track comes in second or third?
What are your choices rn?
Mine are still:
TSOM
Genesis
Urantia
Honestly this is the Gift and curse of being a Deftones fan. At this point in time ... Subject to Change.
1. Pompeji bleeds into TLID (underrated)
2. Ceremony
3. Ohms
I can get with that, those are my runner ups. Pompeji's outro too, it's so Twin Peaks. It made me start re-watching the show again.
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Quote from: Draken on Sep 30, 2020, 04:57 AM
If you give me 3 votes I'm putting them all on TSOM. :D
LMAO! Again I love the passion! That's what makes us all the most loyal Tones fans. However my request remains the same. Which track comes in second or third?
What are your choices rn?
Mine are still:
1. TSOM
2. Genesis
3. Urantia
1 - TSoM
2 - Ceremony
3 - Headless
anyone have the 9 string songs pinpointed yet? i'm pretty sure he uses it in genesis (slow intro only), TSOM, error (but it might be just the 8th string). hard for me to tell for sure. i think he uses it on 3/4 songs tops, which is great, i didn't want him to overuse it
Lol my top 3 is different compared to the rest I think. Right now:
1. Error (this will probably stay on top forever as far as I expect)
2. Radiant City
3. The Spell of Mathematics
This just turned up... ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/RNVHcYk/PXL-20200930-121609180.jpg)
Nice
I have not listened to as cassette in about 25 ish years. How's the sound quality?
SWEET!
Nice
(https://i.ibb.co/gSnkKgN/20200930-134225.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F5PRT72)
google picture uploader free download (https://imgbb.com/)
I wonder how many of these they had to sign, must have been awful.
Abe's signature seems inconsistent lol
Quote from: buflen on Sep 30, 2020, 01:34 PM
I wonder how many of these they had to sign, must have been awful.
Abe's signature seems inconsistent lol
I'm glad they are hand signed and not just photocopies, but yeah, must have been a pain in the arse to sign them all
I think the signed art card bundles were limited to 500? Maybe Abe changes it up to keep himself occupied ;D
I guess I'd better go and buy a cassette player... Give my 6 year old daughter a history lesson!
Also realised I've ordered one of the the CD bundles and even my car is too modern for a CD player. 4 copies of the album I can't play. Loserrrrrr.
This album may be the first time where the song I personally see as the strongest cut turns out to be THE fan favorite.
For me,
Adrenaline was Fist (followed by Bored)
ATF was Damone
WP was Pink Maggit
Deftones was Hexagram
SNW was Riviere
DE was This Place is Death
KNY was Graphic Nature
Gore was Acid Hologram
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 03:53 PM
This album may be the first time where the song I personally see as the strongest cut turns out to be THE fan favorite.
For me,
Adrenaline was Fist (followed by Bored)
ATF was Damone
WP was Pink Maggit
Deftones was Hexagram
SNW was Riviere
DE was This Place is Death
KNY was Graphic Nature
Gore was Acid Hologram
Because the best song is a clear cut here. LOL
Quote from: buflen on Sep 30, 2020, 01:34 PM
I wonder how many of these they had to sign, must have been awful.
Abe's signature seems inconsistent lol
probably other ppl signing these
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 30, 2020, 05:02 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 30, 2020, 01:34 PM
I wonder how many of these they had to sign, must have been awful.
Abe's signature seems inconsistent lol
probably other ppl signing these
Naw, i can put money that's the band. It's easy to prove hand writing.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 30, 2020, 05:07 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 30, 2020, 05:02 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 30, 2020, 01:34 PM
I wonder how many of these they had to sign, must have been awful.
Abe's signature seems inconsistent lol
probably other ppl signing these
Naw, i can put money that's the band. It's easy to prove hand writing.
ok
Quote from: Shells on Sep 30, 2020, 12:37 PM
This just turned up... ;D
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 30, 2020, 01:30 PM
Nice
Ugh, I wanted the signed cd so bad but they sold out and I almost got the casettes too. You luckies, enjoy!
Quote from: buflen on Sep 30, 2020, 04:56 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 03:53 PM
This album may be the first time where the song I personally see as the strongest cut turns out to be THE fan favorite.
For me,
Adrenaline was Fist (followed by Bored)
ATF was Damone
WP was Pink Maggit
Deftones was Hexagram
SNW was Riviere
DE was This Place is Death
KNY was Graphic Nature
Gore was Acid Hologram
Because the best song is a clear cut here. LOL
TSOMs rather phallic presence on the polls pretty much clears that up.
I can't wait until I don't have a pounding fucking migraine anymore so I can actually listen to Ohms again. :(
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 03:53 PM
This album may be the first time where the song I personally see as the strongest cut turns out to be THE fan favorite.
For me,
Adrenaline was Fist (followed by Bored)
ATF was Damone
WP was Pink Maggit
Deftones was Hexagram
SNW was Riviere
DE was This Place is Death
KNY was Graphic Nature
Gore was Acid Hologram
As much as I've disagreed with you about things because that just happens sometimes, with anyone, those are all of my favorite tracks as well except acid hologram would be geometric headdress for me with acid being after that one. That's crazy to have eight out of nine but that's Only because they are the best songs. ::) I also thought i was on a pretty lonely island with TPID. Thats some 70's a cid rock type shit right there. One of my all timers also. It was IMO a left turn for the band bc it was so different
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 03:53 PM
This album may be the first time where the song I personally see as the strongest cut turns out to be THE fan favorite.
For me,
Adrenaline was Fist (followed by Bored)
ATF was Damone
WP was Pink Maggit
Deftones was Hexagram
SNW was Riviere
DE was This Place is Death
KNY was Graphic Nature
Gore was Acid Hologram
I'm seeing an "end of the album" theme here
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 29, 2020, 03:43 PM
Quote from: Moana91 on Sep 29, 2020, 07:39 AM
The intro of Headless is in my heart a beautiful tribute to this song:
https://youtu.be/eaf08gtiitU
Harold Budd has another song called Radiant City.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EObjZc2cDP4
Yesss!!!
Such a great song, such heavenly art
The wife and I sparked one, put the lights down low, and played the album twice in a row last night. I think I can safely say this album is up there with all of their classic albums. I hear fragments of everything the band has done since white pony, but at the same time they've pushed themselves further. This album is just beautiful - every single song has something that I love about them. I rarely feel this way about albums these days - Tool might be the only other exception.
Genesis is the ultimate centrist anthem
'I reject both sides of what I'm being told
I've seen right through, I finally achieve balance'
Headless is about 5G
"We're entirely insane, they claim
Yet, they'd like to violate our brain waves"
Just kidding
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 30, 2020, 07:18 PM
I can't wait until I don't have a pounding fucking migraine anymore so I can actually listen to Ohms again. :(
Migraines are no joke, get well dude
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Oct 01, 2020, 02:26 AM
Genesis is the ultimate centrist anthem
'I reject both sides of what I'm being told
I've seen right through, I finally achieve balance'
well, given the current scenario this could also mean he's too lefty for US politics (which in any other country would probably account for anything left of center-right)
but to be fair he's also stated in the past he's not into politics at all so he probably just thinks everyone in politics is insane (and maybe that biden is leftwing lmao)
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 02:32 AM
Headless is about 5G
"We're entirely insane, they claim
Yet, they'd like to violate our brain waves"
that chorus always gives the hairs in my arms a full-on raging erection. overall Headless sounds like a mixture of This Place is Death and Rubicon to me for some reason, which raises the question:
what songs in their catalogue would you say are similar to songs from Ohms in terms of overall atmosphere and feel? IMO:
Genesis:
Diamond Eyes
Spell of Mathematics:
Geometric Headdress, Knife Prty, UUDDLRLRAB Select Start
This Link is Dead:
WGTB, CMND/CTRL
Headless:
This Place is Death, Rubicon
Ohms:
Swerve City? idk this one is fairly unique in terms of soundscape
not sure about the others, and there are probably more similarities that I can't remember atm
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 01, 2020, 03:05 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 30, 2020, 07:18 PM
I can't wait until I don't have a pounding fucking migraine anymore so I can actually listen to Ohms again. :(
Migraines are no joke, get well dude
Thanks man, appreciate it. Feeling a bit better now. I'll be fine for months and months and then for a week or two I'll have a skull-crushing migraine. Hopefully this one is almost over.
Ohms got a 7.6 from Pitchfork 🤔
Quote from: laurapalmer on Oct 01, 2020, 07:13 AM
Ohms got a 7.6 from Pitchfork 🤔
7.6 from Pitchfork is quite good..
More often than not, they are that one critic that tend to be on the edgy/elitist side of things. I'd have expected less from them.
The only "low " review so far has been from "The Guardian". Until Fantano comes in, and spit some of his Deftones Hate mumbo-jumbo ;D
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 03:53 PM
This album may be the first time where the song I personally see as the strongest cut turns out to be THE fan favorite.
For me,
Adrenaline was Fist (followed by Bored)
ATF was Damone
WP was Pink Maggit
Deftones was Hexagram
SNW was Riviere
DE was This Place is Death
KNY was Graphic Nature
Gore was Acid Hologram
Same... kinda (about TSoM anyway)
Adrenaline - One weak
Around the fur - Be quiet and drive
White Pony - Feiticeira
S/T - Battle-axe
SNW - Kimdracula
DE - Diamond eyes
KNY - Tempest
Gore - Hearts/Wires
Ignore reviews, your own opinion is what counts people!
After a full week of listening to the album, I can say it's one of the best, the flow is perfect, the song structures and fantastic, the sound is perfect, it's up there with the best work they have done
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 01, 2020, 10:02 AM
Ignore reviews, your own opinion is what counts people!
After a full week of listening to the album, I can say it's one of the best, the flow is perfect, the song structures and fantastic, the sound is perfect, it's up there with the best work they have done
Couldn't agree more!
Really diging the record as well.
Love how each track flows so well into the next one. This is one of those cases where I really don't want to listen to the songs individually, but rather experience the whole thing.
Each song has something special to offer, if not the full track, at least one section of it, something that makes you want to come back again and again.
The only thing I could see getting old at some point would be those few "1 Big chord / 1 bar" chorus (Urantia & Error come to mind), but in a way, those moments allowed the track to breath a bit instrumentally, and were supported by strong vocal melodies.
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 01, 2020, 10:02 AM
Ignore reviews, your own opinion is what counts people!
This
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 03:53 PM
This album may be the first time where the song I personally see as the strongest cut turns out to be THE fan favorite.
For me,
Adrenaline was Fist (followed by Bored)
ATF was Damone
WP was Pink Maggit
Deftones was Hexagram
SNW was Riviere
DE was This Place is Death
KNY was Graphic Nature
Gore was Acid Hologram
Damone <3
Adrenaline : Lifter
ATF : Damone
WP : Feiticeira
ST : Bloody Cape
SNW : Rapture
DE : 976-Evil
KNY : Gauze
Gore : P/T
Ohms : Headless
Quote from: laurapalmer on Oct 01, 2020, 07:13 AM
Ohms got a 7.6 from Pitchfork 🤔
That's actually good for pitchfork
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 01:36 PM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Oct 01, 2020, 07:13 AM
Ohms got a 7.6 from Pitchfork 🤔
That's actually good for pitchfork
If you read the review, it was pretty glowing in their praise both of the band and the album. White Pony got 8.4, Gore got 7.8 and self titled has 4.7 on there.
They're not massively generous with their scores, even if they actually like the band. Ohms has the same rating as TRT by FNM for example, Fear Innoculum has 5.4 on there while Lateralus is at 1.9 for crying out loud.
I believe their scores come from a combination of writers so the review will often read slightly differently to the score, as it does there.
am still waiting for an inadequate review from needledrop
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 01, 2020, 10:02 AM
Ignore reviews, your own opinion is what counts people!
Sure, my own opinion is what counts as far as I'm concerned. However, better reviews means more attention to the band. It's not like my love for Ohms or the band itself is going to change with a good or bad review, otherwise I'd hate the Self Titled and it's my favorite from them. But, I do care that the band gets the attention they deserve, from both fans and critics, because I think they deserve it. So in that sense, I do still care about reviews.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Oct 01, 2020, 02:32 PM
am still waiting for an inadequate review from needledrop
I kinda expect a "Why You No Review" after his reaction to genesis
TBH i prefer that over a review not judging the music itself, but a negative biased against the style.
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 03:17 PM
TBH i prefer that over a review not judging the music itself, but a negative biased against the style.
What was his reaction to Genesis? I saw him mention Ohms in one of his weekly roundup videos, but I didn't see anything about Genesis.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 01, 2020, 03:22 PM
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 03:17 PM
TBH i prefer that over a review not judging the music itself, but a negative biased against the style.
What was his reaction to Genesis? I saw him mention Ohms in one of his weekly roundup videos, but I didn't see anything about Genesis.
Hated it, hated the "djenty riffs" and chino's scream.
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 03:24 PM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 01, 2020, 03:22 PM
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 03:17 PM
TBH i prefer that over a review not judging the music itself, but a negative biased against the style.
What was his reaction to Genesis? I saw him mention Ohms in one of his weekly roundup videos, but I didn't see anything about Genesis.
Hated it, hated the "djenty riffs" and chino's scream.
I'll be honest, it's my least favorite track on the whole album too. I wasn't too impressed with it at first either, so I can relate.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 01, 2020, 03:26 PM
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 03:24 PM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 01, 2020, 03:22 PM
Quote from: buflen on Oct 01, 2020, 03:17 PM
TBH i prefer that over a review not judging the music itself, but a negative biased against the style.
What was his reaction to Genesis? I saw him mention Ohms in one of his weekly roundup videos, but I didn't see anything about Genesis.
Hated it, hated the "djenty riffs" and chino's scream.
I'll be honest, it's my least favorite track on the whole album too. I wasn't too impressed with it at first either, so I can relate.
I loved it on first listen, which means I think its a great song, but its definitely not my favorite.
My favorite is def TSOM, but my first reaction to it was : That chorus sounds like deftones doing a cover of another band.
Adrenaline - Hidden Track
ATF - Damone
WP - Passenger
S/T - WGTB
SNW - Riviere
DE - Prince
KNY - Poltergeist
Gore - Acid Hologram
Ohms - TSOM
Adrenaline - Birthmark
ATF - Dai The Flu
WP - Digital Bath
S/T - Bloody Cape
SNW - Cherry Waves
DE - Royal
KNY - Rosemary
Gore - Hearts/Wires
Ohms - Headless
Adrenaline - Root/7-Words
ATF - BQAD
WP - Digital Bath/Knife Party
S/T - Anniversary
SNW - Combat
DE - Beauty School
KNY - Entombed
Gore - Acid Hologram
Ohms - Ceremony/Error
Adrenaline - Birthmark
ATF - Headup
WP - Korea
S/T - Deathblow
SNW - Kimdracula
DE - Royal
KNY - Leathers
Gore - Hearts/Wires
Ohms - The Spell of Mathematics
Headless intro = Goon Squad intro
Adrenaline - Bored
ATF - Be Quiet And Drive
White Pony - Change
Self Titled - Bloody Cape
SNW - Riviere
Diamond Eyes - Royal
KNY - Rosemary
Gore - Geometric Headdress
Ohms - TSOM
Adrenaline - Fist
ATF - Lhabia
WP - The Boy's Republic/Knife Party
S/T - Moana
SNW - Riviere
DE - This Place is Death
KNY - What Happened to You?
Gore - Acid Hologram
Ohms - The Spell of Mathematics
Adrenaline - Lifter
ATF - BQAD
WP - Pink Maggit
S/T - WGTB
SNW - Beware
DE - Sextape
KNY - Rosemary
Gore - Rubicon
I can't pick a favourite off Ohms yet.
Adrenaline - Bored
ATF - Be Quiet and Drive
WP - Knife Prty
Deftones - When Girls Telephone Boys
SNW - Beware
Diamond Eyes - Royal
KNY - Rosemary
Gore - Rubicon
Ohms - This Link is Dead
Am i on the bullshit thread?
Hey y'll, did you receive a mail from Deftones stating a message from Abe ? The message leads to instagram. And since I am not on Instagram, can anyone share the message/screenshot here ?
Quote from: pannch on Oct 01, 2020, 10:04 PM
Hey y'll, did you receive a mail from Deftones stating a message from Abe ? The message leads to instagram. And since I am not on Instagram, can anyone share the message/screenshot here ?
It was just a thank you for the adopt a dot thing. And yes, this thread has turned into Reddit lol
Someone feel free to steer it back on course, oh captain my captains
Yo! Received fed my cassette and signed print bundle today. Just waiting on vinyl and zine from the official store and signed CD from Newbury.
So, purchased the album on all formats and glad I did as it's an absolute keeper and any little contribution to the band is an important one in my book.
I guess...
adrenaline - nosebleed
atf - mx
wp - pink maggit
s/t - battle-axe
snw - beware
de - royal
kny - poltergeist
gore - geometric headdress
ohms - ceremony
It's anyone else's package of Ohms on "Shipment ready for UPS?" or am I alone on that?
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 02, 2020, 12:37 AM
It's anyone else's package of Ohms on "Shipment ready for UPS?" or am I alone on that?
Been like that for me since the 25th. Today was the estimated delivery.
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 02, 2020, 01:10 AM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 02, 2020, 12:37 AM
It's anyone else's package of Ohms on "Shipment ready for UPS?" or am I alone on that?
Been like that for me since the 25th. Today was the estimated delivery.
Same here. Very frustrating.
Fandingo just gave it a 3/10 lmao. At least he's consistent?
He's never gotten deftones.
Doesn't get it
As much as I think he's being harsh about it and I do like the record, there's actually a few things I agree with
https://youtu.be/YbU_oJiqWM8
Quote from: nicklav on Oct 02, 2020, 01:22 AM
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 02, 2020, 01:10 AM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 02, 2020, 12:37 AM
It's anyone else's package of Ohms on "Shipment ready for UPS?" or am I alone on that?
Been like that for me since the 25th. Today was the estimated delivery.
Same here. Very frustrating.
Same - haven't checked since Monday so I was fully expecting it to arrive tomorrow - nothing since Sept 25th. Just the label was created. SIGH.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 02:58 AM
As much as I think he's being harsh about it and I do like the record, there's actually a few things I agree with
https://youtu.be/YbU_oJiqWM8
I agree a hell of a lot with a lot of the things he said (especially the "both sides" thing, like, come on chino), but he's just straight up wrong on many of them lmao
I somehow enjoyed that review, it was like watching a funny roast of yourself someone you really like
but yeah his opinion is wrong tho
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 02:58 AM
As much as I think he's being harsh about it and I do like the record, there's actually a few things I agree with
https://youtu.be/YbU_oJiqWM8
Yes, I also found myself in agreement with some stuff he said. (The Error description was amazing though)
Quote from: SMLiberator on Oct 02, 2020, 03:26 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 02:58 AM
As much as I think he's being harsh about it and I do like the record, there's actually a few things I agree with
https://youtu.be/YbU_oJiqWM8
I agree a hell of a lot with a lot of the things he said (especially the "both sides" thing, like, come on chino), but he's just straight up wrong on many of them lmao
I somehow enjoyed that review, it was like watching a funny roast of yourself someone you really like
but yeah his opinion is wrong tho
I haven't watched the review but is he taking the "both sides" lyric as a political statement? I guess you can take it as that, but with most Chino lyrics, I think it's maybe not that clear-cut and can have multiple meanings. I think it's about forging your own path in life and figuring things out for yourself more than some kind of "I'm not a democrat or a republican" viewpoint.
Its clear he's not a fan of the band. Good for him . He gave daughters a 10. That is one of the most painfully pathetic records I've ever heard.
I happen to love the first half of the record and think the second half lacks a little bit.. so to each their own.
Figure we will see the Week 1 Album sales soon. Sure would be great to see Ohms at #1. Gonna be tough to beat Underwood maybe even MGK. Gotta figure they move at least 75,000 units?
Anthony Shitstaino here, the internets busiest music turd.
Dude is such a slap dick and a hack.
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 02, 2020, 03:53 AM
Quote from: SMLiberator on Oct 02, 2020, 03:26 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 02:58 AM
As much as I think he's being harsh about it and I do like the record, there's actually a few things I agree with
https://youtu.be/YbU_oJiqWM8
I agree a hell of a lot with a lot of the things he said (especially the "both sides" thing, like, come on chino), but he's just straight up wrong on many of them lmao
I somehow enjoyed that review, it was like watching a funny roast of yourself someone you really like
but yeah his opinion is wrong tho
I haven't watched the review but is he taking the "both sides" lyric as a political statement? I guess you can take it as that, but with most Chino lyrics, I think it's maybe not that clear-cut and can have multiple meanings. I think it's about forging your own path in life and figuring things out for yourself more than some kind of "I'm not a democrat or a republican" viewpoint.
absolutely agree
there's nothing I hate worse than youtube thumbnail art of someone with their mouth open. Close your f'kin mouth. It's like weirdos that try to swallow a watermelon whole when they get a Nintendo switch.
This guy is at least a partial, but you know what I'm talking about!
Quote from: pannch on Oct 02, 2020, 03:40 AM
(The Error description was amazing though)
I hate when people say shit like "ErRoR iT livEs up To Its NAmE LOL". Like, it's not even because I like the song, you're not fucking clever.
"JAZZ? MORE LIKE ASS, AMIRITE?"
I don't actually mean this as a dig but I don't consider what he does to be 'music criticism'. It's not engaged enough beyond his instinctive, subjective reaction to the sounds. That's fine for what it is but I find his presentation muddled in terms of subjective/objective (I know it's hard to straddle between those two but he tries to have his cake and eat it to the point that the "You know this is just my opinion" line just seems like a cop-out), and because it's not engaged enough, he inevitably misrepresents intention and tone; for example, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the meaning of that Genesis lyric but he clearly caricatures the tone and so fails to understand it.
Honestly, I find his whole thing very dull. Even to try and disagree with his opinion seems to be lending it more than it's worth. I care as much about him giving it a 3 as I would have done had he given it a 10. Complete indifference.
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 02, 2020, 07:01 AM
I don't actually mean this as a dig but I don't consider what he does to be 'music criticism'. It's not engaged enough beyond his instinctive, subjective reaction to the sounds. That's fine for what it is but I find his presentation muddled in terms of subjective/objective (I know it's hard to straddle between those two but he tries to have his cake and eat it to the point that the "You know this is just my opinion" line just seems like a cop-out), and because it's not engaged enough, he inevitably misrepresents intention and tone; for example, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the meaning of that Genesis lyric but he clearly caricatures the tone and so fails to understand it.
Honestly, I find his whole thing very dull. Even to try and disagree with his opinion seems to be lending it more than it's worth. I care as much about him giving it a 3 as I would have done had he given it a 10. Complete indifference.
Guy just does it to get likes/views etc. typical new age prick
this forum seething rn over horseface fandango
(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/At+first+they+sat+awkwardly+in+fantanos+living+room+but+_b6e5043a01278a790a5230bb37b87920.jpg)
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:04 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 02, 2020, 07:01 AM
I don't actually mean this as a dig but I don't consider what he does to be 'music criticism'. It's not engaged enough beyond his instinctive, subjective reaction to the sounds. That's fine for what it is but I find his presentation muddled in terms of subjective/objective (I know it's hard to straddle between those two but he tries to have his cake and eat it to the point that the "You know this is just my opinion" line just seems like a cop-out), and because it's not engaged enough, he inevitably misrepresents intention and tone; for example, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the meaning of that Genesis lyric but he clearly caricatures the tone and so fails to understand it.
Honestly, I find his whole thing very dull. Even to try and disagree with his opinion seems to be lending it more than it's worth. I care as much about him giving it a 3 as I would have done had he given it a 10. Complete indifference.
Guy just does it to get likes/views etc. typical new age prick
Lol that's absolutely false; I think he doesn't give a damn abt likes/views. If that was the case, he could've given Ohms a positive review. Have you seen the like/dislike ratio of that review ? It contradicts what you're saying...
Quote from: pannch on Oct 02, 2020, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:04 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 02, 2020, 07:01 AM
I don't actually mean this as a dig but I don't consider what he does to be 'music criticism'. It's not engaged enough beyond his instinctive, subjective reaction to the sounds. That's fine for what it is but I find his presentation muddled in terms of subjective/objective (I know it's hard to straddle between those two but he tries to have his cake and eat it to the point that the "You know this is just my opinion" line just seems like a cop-out), and because it's not engaged enough, he inevitably misrepresents intention and tone; for example, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the meaning of that Genesis lyric but he clearly caricatures the tone and so fails to understand it.
Honestly, I find his whole thing very dull. Even to try and disagree with his opinion seems to be lending it more than it's worth. I care as much about him giving it a 3 as I would have done had he given it a 10. Complete indifference.
Guy just does it to get likes/views etc. typical new age prick
Lol that's absolutely false; I think he doesn't give a damn abt likes/views. If that was the case, he could've given Ohms a positive review. Have you seen the like/dislike ratio of that review ? It contradicts what you're saying...
Are you him?
Of course he gives negative reviews to get reactions, I don't get why so many people have a hard on for this bloke
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:55 AM
Quote from: pannch on Oct 02, 2020, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:04 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 02, 2020, 07:01 AM
I don't actually mean this as a dig but I don't consider what he does to be 'music criticism'. It's not engaged enough beyond his instinctive, subjective reaction to the sounds. That's fine for what it is but I find his presentation muddled in terms of subjective/objective (I know it's hard to straddle between those two but he tries to have his cake and eat it to the point that the "You know this is just my opinion" line just seems like a cop-out), and because it's not engaged enough, he inevitably misrepresents intention and tone; for example, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the meaning of that Genesis lyric but he clearly caricatures the tone and so fails to understand it.
Honestly, I find his whole thing very dull. Even to try and disagree with his opinion seems to be lending it more than it's worth. I care as much about him giving it a 3 as I would have done had he given it a 10. Complete indifference.
Guy just does it to get likes/views etc. typical new age prick
Lol that's absolutely false; I think he doesn't give a damn abt likes/views. If that was the case, he could've given Ohms a positive review. Have you seen the like/dislike ratio of that review ? It contradicts what you're saying...
Are you him?
Of course he gives negative reviews to get reactions, I don't get why so many people have a hard on for this bloke
No I am not him. I don't get a hard on for him, but I at least appreciate him covering artists across genres, whom I may or may not ever hear, I haven't seen other reviewers do it tbh.
And I may sound biased, but what you're saying just doesn't make sense. He ain't a new boy in town trying to rack up likes and comments for popularity, he has been in the game for quite some time.
Quote from: pannch on Oct 02, 2020, 09:01 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:55 AM
Quote from: pannch on Oct 02, 2020, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:04 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 02, 2020, 07:01 AM
I don't actually mean this as a dig but I don't consider what he does to be 'music criticism'. It's not engaged enough beyond his instinctive, subjective reaction to the sounds. That's fine for what it is but I find his presentation muddled in terms of subjective/objective (I know it's hard to straddle between those two but he tries to have his cake and eat it to the point that the "You know this is just my opinion" line just seems like a cop-out), and because it's not engaged enough, he inevitably misrepresents intention and tone; for example, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the meaning of that Genesis lyric but he clearly caricatures the tone and so fails to understand it.
Honestly, I find his whole thing very dull. Even to try and disagree with his opinion seems to be lending it more than it's worth. I care as much about him giving it a 3 as I would have done had he given it a 10. Complete indifference.
Guy just does it to get likes/views etc. typical new age prick
Lol that's absolutely false; I think he doesn't give a damn abt likes/views. If that was the case, he could've given Ohms a positive review. Have you seen the like/dislike ratio of that review ? It contradicts what you're saying...
Are you him?
Of course he gives negative reviews to get reactions, I don't get why so many people have a hard on for this bloke
No I am not him. I don't get a hard on for him, but I at least appreciate him covering artists across genres, whom I may or may not ever hear, I haven't seen other reviewers do it tbh.
And I may sound biased, but what you're saying just doesn't make sense. He ain't a new boy in town trying to rack up likes and comments for popularity, he has been in the game for quite some time.
Well I'm sticking to my opinion, you can have yours
The sad part is that this guy has a huge audience, and might be the biggest "music review" guy on youtube.
His super-biased, horrible, reviews give the band a real bad exposure to a lot of people who might not be familiar with Deftones.
Which is a pity, because the credibility of this dude regarding Deftones is below 0. They could make the next "Kid A" or "Sgt. Pepper's", he would stiill tear it apart with his bag of "Bland melodies, terrible vocals, terrible guitar, yada yada".
Actually, his review are the closest thing to being bland and generic here.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 02, 2020, 04:31 AM
Figure we will see the Week 1 Album sales soon. Sure would be great to see Ohms at #1. Gonna be tough to beat Underwood maybe even MGK. Gotta figure they move at least 75,000 units?
Hey! First time, long time checking in, (sort of.) I had an account back in the day. Drop Dead's avatar used to be Rey from Tinfed, I think.
I'm a big nut for record sales. I have a topic going on the Deftones subreddit that is getting zero traction, which like who cares.
Anyways, I projected the record to do 40,000-45,000 units and a #6 debut. Projections are currently showing 28-30,000 with it clocking in at #11.
https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=323391&title=YOUR-TOP-20-IS-FULLY-LOADED (https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=323391&title=YOUR-TOP-20-IS-FULLY-LOADED)
A lot of reasons this happened. Amazon & Target had shipment issues via Warner. Also this band has an older fan base. So there's a lot casuals who dropped off. Ticket bundling was halted at the beginning of the year. The older fan base also might not be walking into record stores as much these days. And while they did more marketing than usual, the reality is that they're a legacy act with a fan base whose median age is probably 37. A lot of moms & dads who probably moved on.
Reviews matter and the two publications that cater to 30 & under, ( The Needle Drop & Pitchfork), gave middling to bad reviews of Ohms.
FWIW, I gave it an 86 myself, with the top songs being TSOM, Pompeji, & Radiant City. If y'all want to read it and roast me, check it here:
https://www.albumoftheyear.org/user/ws198x/album/272235-ohms/ (https://www.albumoftheyear.org/user/ws198x/album/272235-ohms/)
Glad this place still exists.
I can't stand Fantano and not just because he shits on Deftones. He's inconsistent at best and his smug attempts at humour make his shit unwatchable.
He said that synths are bad, but at the same time he said Pompeji is a good song lol...no matter if I agree with his opinion or not, but this review is just bad.
About franks overuse of synths on the album, towards the end "yep, they're still there.. still popping up, although adding nothing to the record though,shoving them down our throats"
I lol'd. I love franks shit but i get the less is more thought about his sounds on ohms
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 11:43 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
New album out and u dont listen to the interviews? Lol
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:47 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 11:43 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
New album out and u dont listen to the interviews? Lol
lol no i just lurk here like a real fan
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 12:06 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:47 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 11:43 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
New album out and u dont listen to the interviews? Lol
lol no i just lurk here like a real fan
i understand, but don't question shit when you don't know shit. lurkers shouldn't use such a high tail carriage when walking around here ;D
cringe
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Oct 02, 2020, 01:18 PM
cringe
yeah 14 year old girls use that word about everything nowadays.
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 29, 2020, 11:58 AM
Still struggling a bit with Radiant City but I'm sure I'll come round to it.... I equally love and hate the main riff at the same time.
agree. sadly it didn't grow on me, it became annoying in the end
Quote from: ws198x on Oct 02, 2020, 09:33 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 02, 2020, 04:31 AM
Figure we will see the Week 1 Album sales soon. Sure would be great to see Ohms at #1. Gonna be tough to beat Underwood maybe even MGK. Gotta figure they move at least 75,000 units?
Hey! First time, long time checking in, (sort of.) I had an account back in the day. Drop Dead's avatar used to be Rey from Tinfed, I think.
I'm a big nut for record sales. I have a topic going on the Deftones subreddit that is getting zero traction, which like who cares.
Anyways, I projected the record to do 40,000-45,000 units and a #6 debut. Projections are currently showing 28-30,000 with it clocking in at #11.
https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=323391&title=YOUR-TOP-20-IS-FULLY-LOADED (https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=323391&title=YOUR-TOP-20-IS-FULLY-LOADED)
A lot of reasons this happened. Amazon & Target had shipment issues via Warner. Also this band has an older fan base. So there's a lot casuals who dropped off. Ticket bundling was halted at the beginning of the year. The older fan base also might not be walking into record stores as much these days. And while they did more marketing than usual, the reality is that they're a legacy act with a fan base whose median age is probably 37. A lot of moms & dads who probably moved on.
Reviews matter and the two publications that cater to 30 & under, ( The Needle Drop & Pitchfork), gave middling to bad reviews of Ohms.
FWIW, I gave it an 86 myself, with the top songs being TSOM, Pompeji, & Radiant City. If y'all want to read it and roast me, check it here:
https://www.albumoftheyear.org/user/ws198x/album/272235-ohms/ (https://www.albumoftheyear.org/user/ws198x/album/272235-ohms/)
Glad this place still exists.
I went to 2 Best Buys and 2 Targets before I could find the CD on its release not day - and not because it was sold out. Big box stores barely stock CDs these days, and the small shops are closed due to COVID. I didn't want Spotify to be my first taste of the record. I tend to agree with Fantano's review, except he was too kind to the second half of the record. Just because he doesn't care for something that you like, does not mean his opinion is any more or less valid than yours.
Quote from: pannch on Oct 02, 2020, 09:01 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:55 AM
Quote from: pannch on Oct 02, 2020, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 02, 2020, 08:04 AM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 02, 2020, 07:01 AM
I don't actually mean this as a dig but I don't consider what he does to be 'music criticism'. It's not engaged enough beyond his instinctive, subjective reaction to the sounds. That's fine for what it is but I find his presentation muddled in terms of subjective/objective (I know it's hard to straddle between those two but he tries to have his cake and eat it to the point that the "You know this is just my opinion" line just seems like a cop-out), and because it's not engaged enough, he inevitably misrepresents intention and tone; for example, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the meaning of that Genesis lyric but he clearly caricatures the tone and so fails to understand it.
Honestly, I find his whole thing very dull. Even to try and disagree with his opinion seems to be lending it more than it's worth. I care as much about him giving it a 3 as I would have done had he given it a 10. Complete indifference.
Guy just does it to get likes/views etc. typical new age prick
Lol that's absolutely false; I think he doesn't give a damn abt likes/views. If that was the case, he could've given Ohms a positive review. Have you seen the like/dislike ratio of that review ? It contradicts what you're saying...
Are you him?
Of course he gives negative reviews to get reactions, I don't get why so many people have a hard on for this bloke
No I am not him. I don't get a hard on for him, but I at least appreciate him covering artists across genres, whom I may or may not ever hear, I haven't seen other reviewers do it tbh.
And I may sound biased, but what you're saying just doesn't make sense. He ain't a new boy in town trying to rack up likes and comments for popularity, he has been in the game for quite some time.
Dislikes are as impactful as likes are on the YouTube algorithm. "Hot takes," in some cases, even generate more traffic and more revenue than the consensus opinion.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 08:21 AM
this forum seething rn over horseface fandango
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He sure is getting all the attention of the people here bitching about him. Who gives a fucking shit? Seriously. The record is good, and everyone here who likes it swears they dont care for or respect his opinion but it seems otherwise. Fuck this guy in the face already
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 02:06 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 08:21 AM
this forum seething rn over horseface fandango
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He sure is getting all the attention of the people here bitching about him. Who gives a fucking shit? Seriously. The record is good, and everyone here who likes it swears they dont care for or respect his opinion but it seems otherwise. Fuck this guy in the face already
I "don't care" about his opinion, in the sense that his opinion won't impact mine. However, I recognize that his opinion can and does impact others, whether they will seek out the album or the band in general, how they will view the album, whether they will spend money on the album, or tickets to see the band, or merchandise, etc.
I'm not broken up about what Melon said, but I had hoped he would look more favorably upon Ohms than this, particularly knowing his love for SNW (considering I find many striking similarities between SNW and Ohms). I care about what popular music critics say because I love the band and want them to experience as much success as possible, not because what they say will impact how I feel.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 02, 2020, 02:13 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 02:06 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 08:21 AM
this forum seething rn over horseface fandango
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He sure is getting all the attention of the people here bitching about him. Who gives a fucking shit? Seriously. The record is good, and everyone here who likes it swears they dont care for or respect his opinion but it seems otherwise. Fuck this guy in the face already
I "don't care" about his opinion, in the sense that his opinion won't impact mine. However, I recognize that his opinion can and does impact others, whether they will seek out the album or the band in general, how they will view the album, whether they will spend money on the album, or tickets to see the band, or merchandise, etc.
I'm not broken up about what Melon said, but I had hoped he would look more favorably upon Ohms than this, particularly knowing his love for SNW (considering I find many striking similarities between SNW and Ohms). I care about what popular music critics say because I love the band and want them to experience as much success as possible, not because what they say will impact how I feel.
I agree and well said. But.... at the end of the day, it just pisses u off and theres nothing anyone can do to change his opinion of the band or any album. I guess that bc i checked in to yap about Ohms on this thread i got a little irritated to read over n over about a guy nobody here likes. And then arguing over him. Hes a turd. Doesnt deserve all this ;)
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 02:17 PM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 02, 2020, 02:13 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 02:06 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 08:21 AM
this forum seething rn over horseface fandango
(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/At+first+they+sat+awkwardly+in+fantanos+living+room+but+_b6e5043a01278a790a5230bb37b87920.jpg)
He sure is getting all the attention of the people here bitching about him. Who gives a fucking shit? Seriously. The record is good, and everyone here who likes it swears they dont care for or respect his opinion but it seems otherwise. Fuck this guy in the face already
I "don't care" about his opinion, in the sense that his opinion won't impact mine. However, I recognize that his opinion can and does impact others, whether they will seek out the album or the band in general, how they will view the album, whether they will spend money on the album, or tickets to see the band, or merchandise, etc.
I'm not broken up about what Melon said, but I had hoped he would look more favorably upon Ohms than this, particularly knowing his love for SNW (considering I find many striking similarities between SNW and Ohms). I care about what popular music critics say because I love the band and want them to experience as much success as possible, not because what they say will impact how I feel.
I agree and well said. But.... at the end of the day, it just pisses u off and theres nothing anyone can do to change his opinion of the band or any album. I guess that bc i checked in to yap about Ohms on this thread i got a little irritated to read over n over about a guy nobody here likes. And then arguing over him. Hes a turd. Doesnt deserve all this ;)
I actually don't mind him most times, he is pretty entertaining. I just disagree with him often.
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 02:17 PM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Oct 02, 2020, 02:13 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 02:06 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 08:21 AM
this forum seething rn over horseface fandango
(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/At+first+they+sat+awkwardly+in+fantanos+living+room+but+_b6e5043a01278a790a5230bb37b87920.jpg)
He sure is getting all the attention of the people here bitching about him. Who gives a fucking shit? Seriously. The record is good, and everyone here who likes it swears they dont care for or respect his opinion but it seems otherwise. Fuck this guy in the face already
I "don't care" about his opinion, in the sense that his opinion won't impact mine. However, I recognize that his opinion can and does impact others, whether they will seek out the album or the band in general, how they will view the album, whether they will spend money on the album, or tickets to see the band, or merchandise, etc.
I'm not broken up about what Melon said, but I had hoped he would look more favorably upon Ohms than this, particularly knowing his love for SNW (considering I find many striking similarities between SNW and Ohms). I care about what popular music critics say because I love the band and want them to experience as much success as possible, not because what they say will impact how I feel.
I agree and well said. But.... at the end of the day, it just pisses u off and theres nothing anyone can do to change his opinion of the band or any album. I guess that bc i checked in to yap about Ohms on this thread i got a little irritated to read over n over about a guy nobody here likes. And then arguing over him. Hes a turd. Doesnt deserve all this ;)
THIS!
Think it's more the score he gave - 3/10? Really?!
Just a bit silly really. Although his reviews certainly spark discussion.
give this guy a sticky thread already, mods?
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:47 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 11:43 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
New album out and u dont listen to the interviews? Lol
I've read / listened to every one and missed that part. Which one was it?
Quote from: Crisp X on Oct 02, 2020, 02:46 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:47 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 11:43 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
New album out and u dont listen to the interviews? Lol
I've read / listened to every one and missed that part. Which one was it?
clearly you haven't, but i will spoonfee, i mean post it for you later
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 02:55 PM
Quote from: Crisp X on Oct 02, 2020, 02:46 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:47 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 11:43 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
New album out and u dont listen to the interviews? Lol
I've read / listened to every one and missed that part. Which one was it?
clearly you haven't, but i will spoonfee, i mean post it for you later
Weirdly douchey and passive aggressive response to a simple question, but okay... thanks?
Weirdly whiney and butthurtly comment to a simple answer, but okay...welcome to the board, i guess?
You two, settle down.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2020, 03:24 PM
You two, settle down.
i'm about to help this guy out, just saying
Then stop being a dick about it.
This thread took a weird turn.
Everyone just take a deep breath and say, Ohms.......
*leaves for a day, the forum is dead
*comes back and the forum has devolved into a pissing match...
ah there you are sharinglungs you ole bastard you
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 02, 2020, 05:27 PM
Everyone just take a deep breath and say, Ohms.......
OHMs...
Quote from: Crisp X on Oct 02, 2020, 02:46 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:47 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Oct 02, 2020, 11:43 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 AM
Chino specifically said that "i reject both sides of what I'm being told" was about politics. But i guess you as a listener could make up whatever meaning u want
lol really? source?
New album out and u dont listen to the interviews? Lol
I've read / listened to every one and missed that part. Which one was it?
Straight off the bat on battlecry opening track 'Genesis', Moreno plants his flag firmly in the ground. "I reject both sides of what I'm being told," he squawks.
"That's a strong statement in these political times when everyone is barking at each other: 'I'm right', 'No, I'm right', 'No, I'm right', 'No, I'm right'," says Moreno. "My response is that I don't trust anybody."
"I just said it in that song and thought about changing it because we've never been a political band.
To leave it in there was scary, but I'm happy with it."
https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778
Not sure if it was mentioned yet but Zach Hill is one of the snapping fingers on The Spell of Mathematics.
Okay, so it is a political statement. Getting upset about it kind of proves Chino's point IMO. He's just saying he doesn't belong to any political party and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 02, 2020, 07:44 PM
Okay, so it is a political statement. Getting upset about it kind of proves Chino's point IMO. He's just saying he doesn't belong to any political party and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I am in total agreement with this and the statement made. Thinking for yourself is one of our dearest freedoms. Now let's get back to Ohms Awesomeness!
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 02, 2020, 07:31 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned yet but Zach Hill is one of the snapping fingers on The Spell of Mathematics.
having a guest guitarist, when 2 in the band play guitar, is weird, but bringing in someone as a guest to snap his fingers is even weirder.
maybe he produced the drum machine in tsom
Not saying it's a bad song at all but the more I listen to this album, the more Genesis sticks out negatively.
Special Guest Finger Snapper LOL
The years of practice needed must have been daunting...
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 02, 2020, 07:55 PM
Special Guest Finger Snapper LOL
The years of practice needed must have been daunting...
it really sounds good though.. can't deny it
This album is entirely insane! Every song feels like an album if you give em ten times repeat. And today I am stuck with Headless and the part that Chino singing after "you seek desire... someday..." makes me insane cause I have to know what is he saying. Any ideas?
Once Ohmsthony Notafantano finds out the Death Grips guy snaps his fingers on the album he'll change his score to a 9/10.
looks like the album is only gonna sell 33k (ish) it's first week. Gore sold 69k it's first. that drop off is insane. wtf, like everyone just went bye bye on deftones? oh well, they have their platinum albums, and 10 million sold worldwide. the high selling days are long gone
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 02, 2020, 05:27 PM
Everyone just take a deep breath and say, Ohms.......
jajajajajaj
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 02, 2020, 08:17 PM
looks like the album is only gonna sell 33k (ish) it's first week. Gore sold 69k it's first. that drop off is insane. wtf, like everyone just went bye bye on deftones? oh well, they have their platinum albums, and 10 million sold worldwide. the high selling days are long gone
I bought the Record through iTunes, I also went to 2 local record stores to buy the CD this week as well and they had not come in yet. Strange...Betting week 2 sales will be close to week 1.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 02, 2020, 08:17 PM
looks like the album is only gonna sell 33k (ish) it's first week. Gore sold 69k it's first. that drop off is insane. wtf, like everyone just went bye bye on deftones?
No. Album sales are collapsing year on year. Add in a global pandemic too.
I guess I should get bent. Sorry for wasting the board's time.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 02, 2020, 08:17 PM
looks like the album is only gonna sell 33k (ish) it's first week. Gore sold 69k it's first. that drop off is insane. wtf, like everyone just went bye bye on deftones? oh well, they have their platinum albums, and 10 million sold worldwide. the high selling days are long gone
The music industry has changed a lot in the past few years. Albums don't really sell much anymore unless you're a mainstream mega star - and even they flop now too like Katy Perry, Justin Timberlake and that Beyonce/Jay-Z album.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 02, 2020, 08:17 PM
looks like the album is only gonna sell 33k (ish) it's first week. Gore sold 69k it's first. that drop off is insane. wtf, like everyone just went bye bye on deftones? oh well, they have their platinum albums, and 10 million sold worldwide. the high selling days are long gone
I dont want this to sound harsh, but I dont think they will get that comotion on sales, ever. WP is their most successfull record and the numbers are not even close to some crap from the same time. They are not popular, I wish they were. Its been like that since I can remember. People from all fronts praise them for a number of good reasons, yet, they are like that gigantic and influential band thats going to leave a mark forever, after they decide to hang up the instruments, BUT its not going to come to public knowledge. Its not to everyone. I have friends who strongly hate them for their own reasons.
As a diehard fan, I think they should be way bigger, but if you look at their sound, their core and everything about them, they shy away from the spotlights all the damn time (or most of the time, anyway). Look at Chino. Does not bother me, tbh. It is what it is, I made peace with it long ago.
People cant see shit, even in front of them. Their loss.
Quote from: Far away on Oct 02, 2020, 09:58 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 02, 2020, 08:17 PM
looks like the album is only gonna sell 33k (ish) it's first week. Gore sold 69k it's first. that drop off is insane. wtf, like everyone just went bye bye on deftones? oh well, they have their platinum albums, and 10 million sold worldwide. the high selling days are long gone
I dont want this to sound harsh, but I dont think they will get that comotion on sales, ever. WP is their most successfull record and the numbers are not even close to some crap from the same time. They are not popular, I wish they were. Its been like that since I can remember. People from all fronts praise them for a number of good reasons, yet, they are like that gigantic and influential band thats going to leave a mark forever, after they decide to hang up the instruments, BUT its not going to come to public knowledge. Its not to everyone. I have friends who strongly hate them for their own reasons.
As a diehard fan, I think they should be way bigger, but if you look at their sound, their core and everything about them, they shy away from the spotlights all the damn time (or most of the time, anyway). Look at Chino. Does not bother me, tbh. It is what it is, I made peace with it long ago.
People cant see shit, even in front of them. Their loss.
Whoahh.... they "strongly HATE them"? Can u elaborate? Can you remember one of your friends exact reasons? Or is it the music period? Just dont get it like most people? Like for example, my mother thinks Chino sounds like hes strung out on heroin.... doesnt get his melodies and cant hear him as an instrument. Yeah hes unique, but people some people, just dont get it. :-\ Btw ive heard other people say he sounds strung out too. Wish I could go back and show them where he is rated as an all-time great singer now maybe they would give it another poke but anyways...
No matter what happens, everyone here has special ears. U were blessed to jive with this shit man. Its pretty fucking great too. Love this band forever. Been with me a very long time now and probably always will be. I just hope they keep making music and stay interested in making it for as long as possible. For a few years now I've been waiting for Chino to end it and not in a bad way, but to explore other genres and make the music he wants to make. Let's face it he enjoys the hang, but I believe he enjoys making the other music he's been making that's just my opinion
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Quote from: Far away on Oct 02, 2020, 09:58 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 02, 2020, 08:17 PM
looks like the album is only gonna sell 33k (ish) it's first week. Gore sold 69k it's first. that drop off is insane. wtf, like everyone just went bye bye on deftones? oh well, they have their platinum albums, and 10 million sold worldwide. the high selling days are long gone
I dont want this to sound harsh, but I dont think they will get that comotion on sales, ever. WP is their most successfull record and the numbers are not even close to some crap from the same time. They are not popular, I wish they were. Its been like that since I can remember. People from all fronts praise them for a number of good reasons, yet, they are like that gigantic and influential band thats going to leave a mark forever, after they decide to hang up the instruments, BUT its not going to come to public knowledge. Its not to everyone. I have friends who strongly hate them for their own reasons.
As a diehard fan, I think they should be way bigger, but if you look at their sound, their core and everything about them, they shy away from the spotlights all the damn time (or most of the time, anyway). Look at Chino. Does not bother me, tbh. It is what it is, I made peace with it long ago.
People cant see shit, even in front of them. Their loss.
Whoahh.... they “strongly HATE them”? Can u elaborate? Can you remember one of your friends exact reasons? Or is it the music period? Just dont get it like most people? Like for example, my mother thinks Chino sounds like hes strung out on heroin.... doesnt get his melodies and cant hear him as an instrument. Yeah hes unique, but people some people, just dont get it. :-\ Btw ive heard other people say he sounds strung out too. Wish I could go back and show them where he is rated as an all-time great singer now maybe they would give it another poke but anyways...
So my best friend, right? She is (or used to be, idk anymore) a HUGE Muse / Silverchair fan. She hates Chino. Says he moans way too much and its kinda of a turn off. Loves the band instrumentally, though. As a drummer, she has a big appreciation for Abe's way of playing. Most of them just dislike Chino's style, or how out of touch / tune he is most of the time, live (which is kinda true, since during some years he was either drunk or high... or both, during shows. We can all agree Youtube does not help this particular case, yes?).
Personally, I couldnt care less about it. I love his way of singing and I saw them live twice. He was SPOT on (back in '07 and `'11). I know hes kinda hit and miss, but as long as they keep making great records, like Ohms, Im fine.
I've know her for almost 20 years and til this day she makes fun of me bc I love them so much. I get back at her tho, she likes a lot of shitty music.
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I don't know anyone irl who likes Deftones lol. My brother hates them but he listens to shit like Breaking Benjamin, I was laughing when i showed him not one but two videos of them covering Deftones. ;D
;D
Quote from: Draken on Oct 02, 2020, 10:51 PM
I don't know anyone irl who likes Deftones lol. My brother hates them but he listens to shit like Breaking Benjamin, I was laughing when i showed him not one but two videos of them covering Deftones. ;D
I can picture the surprise on his face, lol...
I think we all probably know someone like your friend. I get the jokes and shit from friends too, even my wife sometimes. Their loss idc. Youre either not liking it at all, casual listener or total die hard like most people round here. Im happy to be the latter. I've always known I wasn't alone on this. I have always assumed because of their smaller diehard fan base compared to a lot of other bands, that those fans had people around them just not getting it. I've never had a problem getting people to go to shows with me to see Deftones but all they got out of it was crowd surfing and moshing so I didn't see them for the whole two hours of the show because I was somewhere trying to listen and enjoy the show ;D I was walking out of a show in Detroit Michigan to see hundreds or thousands of people in those city streets dancing around because we had finally hunted down and killed Osama bin Laden! And I remember linking up with my friends and my two brothers that were with me to ask them what they thought and they could totally care less LOL obviously it was something to celebrate but fuck, I just wanted to know what they thought about Deftones' show bc they fucking ripped it up that night LOL
Don't forget that these random/significant times tend to be quite valuable for people in the long run. Not just financially but in terms of experience etc.
Style wise, a lot of folks will probably look at this time as a golden era for music with the shit that's going on. Also, in terms of physical albums just look back on early/mid 90s records - they're super sought after because they're quite rare but at the time nobody knew any better. The same will probably apply to these times in a few decades if they're printing less
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Don't forget that these random times tend to be quite valuable for people in the long run. Not just financially but in terms of experience etc.
Style wise, a lot of folks will probably look at this time as a golden era for music. Also, in terms of physical albums, look back on early/mid 90s records - they're super sought after because they're quite rare but at the time nobody knew any better. The same will probably apply to these times in a few decades.
Glad I have every original CD I've ever bought pretty much. I just wish I saved my cassettes. "Theyre baaa aaaaack"
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 11:03 PMYoure either not liking it at all, casual listener or total die hard like most people round here.
From my personal experiences with people around me, thats exactly the case. My 3 closest friends, 2 love them to death and one hates 'em. Curious enough, last show we went to in 2011, was on April 4th. We both born on april 4th. It was the best day of my life, nothing comes close to it. Celebrating yours and your best friends birthday on the same day you are watching your favorite band play?
I couldnt talk for almost 3 days. I went totally ape shit crazy, lol... and thats not me at all.
You either like them or you don't. It's like David Lynch movies. There's not really like a middle ground "yeah it's ok", it's like either rabid fandom or vehement hatred, or like most people, they just don't get it so they don't care. It just clicks if you're a fan. There's lots of stuff that didn't click with me at first, Deftones being one of them. But damn when it clicks, it fucking clicks. It's something you have to give time and have patience for.
I understand completely why people would think Chino is whiney... but I also understand what he's trying to do with his voice (a lil bit of Sade mixed with Robert Smith, etc.). It doesn't sound whiney to me at all though. I think there are far more whinier bands out there. I mean, Papa Roach sounds whiney and emo as shit to me. It's not like Chino is catering to teenagers by singing some melodramatic emo shit like "I'm contemplating suicide!"
aaaaaand we're back on the bullshit thread ;D
Quote from: Draken on Oct 02, 2020, 11:30 PM
I understand completely why people would think Chino is whiney... but I also understand what he's trying to do with his voice (a lil bit of Sade mixed with Robert Smith, etc.). It doesn't sound whiney to me at all though. I think there are far more whinier bands out there. I mean, Papa Roach sounds whiney and emo as shit to me. It's not like Chino is catering to teenagers by singing some melodramatic emo shit like "I'm contemplating suicide!"
aaaaaand we're back on the bullshit thread ;D
LMAO
I've been incapacitated for 2 weeks with some strange illness that apparently isn't COVID. I missed the entire album release reaction. So if you don't mind sharing (again). What does everyone think of the album? It's cool seeing reactions from new and old fans alike.
Quote from: Sicario on Oct 03, 2020, 01:20 AM
I've been incapacitated for 2 weeks with some strange illness that apparently isn't COVID. I missed the entire album release reaction. So if you don't mind sharing (again). What does everyone think of the album? It's cool seeing reactions from new and old fans alike.
I loved from day 1. Only music that I didnt instantly fell in love with was Pompeji (altho that ending is amazing) and Radiant city. They are not bad songs at all though.
It's crazy what a difference "7" Days make in how I appreciate this Record. My favorite Tracks shifting, the little inflections in the sound. Focusing on each members contributions to the groove.
Ohms is truly a work of Art.
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 02, 2020, 10:38 PM
No matter what happens, everyone here has special ears. U were blessed to jive with this shit man. Its pretty fucking great too. Love this band forever. Been with me a very long time now and probably always will be. I just hope they keep making music and stay interested in making it for as long as possible. For a few years now I've been waiting for Chino to end it and not in a bad way, but to explore other genres and make the music he wants to make. Let's face it he enjoys the hang, but I believe he enjoys making the other music he's been making that's just my opinion
Totally agree bro. Hoping for him to get back to creating more in the next few years. Would love for him to do another team sleep record. It's time...
My favorite tracks remain the same but the order of others are constantly shifting
It's a useless Game.
As much as i try to love TSOM I cannot place it in the Top 3 on Ohms, IMO. I expect to be crucified, Be kind and understand I'm entirely insane...
This Link is Dead > The Spell of Mathematics
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 03, 2020, 05:07 AM
It's a useless Game.
As much as i try to love TSOM I cannot place it in the Top 3 on Ohms, IMO. I expect to be crucified, Be kind and understand I'm entirely insane...
This Link is Dead > The Spell of Mathematics
I feel you. I did a complete 180 on This Link Is Dead. Didn't like it much at first but it's really grown on me. It's a really fun song and probably one of the most ATF-ish songs they've written post-ATF. I'm having a bit of the opposite effect happen with TSOM. When I heard it in June, it really stood out to me - I thought the chorus was stunning. I still think it's strong, but with each listen, it just slips away from me and I feel like I don't connect with it much. The "I believe your love" refrain feels a little too droney for my tastes. I don't like Stef's verse riff much and the heavy parts feel like too much layering - Chino's shrieking atop Frank's blaring synth atop Stef's lumbering riff is like overkill. Still love the second half of the song, though.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 03, 2020, 05:07 AM
It’s a useless Game.
As much as i try to love TSOM I cannot place it in the Top 3 on Ohms, IMO. I expect to be crucified, Be kind and understand I’m entirely insane...
This Link is Dead > The Spell of Mathematics
I mean, its not like people have to like it because, according to a poll in here, its the most liked song on the record. Thats the thing about music for me, no matter what people say, your interpretation of said music will always be unique. Some similarities and differences within the community, sure, but always unique.
Personally, I find TLID a good song, but not a favorite of mine.
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I did a complete 180 on This Link Is Dead. Didn't like it much at first but it's really grown on me.
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Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 03, 2020, 05:07 AM
This Link is Dead > The Spell of Mathematics
it's like tlid got the wgtb verse chords, the atf feeling, and the fun old school jam awareness of cmnd/ctrl
Still digging Radiant City but I wish the song faded out with Chino repeating the "I'll follow you now" line over and over. Yeah, I have some really odd nitpicks.
I do miss them doing fade outs.
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 03, 2020, 07:09 PM
Still digging Radiant City but I wish the song faded out with Chino repeating the "I'll follow you now" line over and over. Yeah, I have some really odd nitpicks.
I'm with ya. Can't beat a focus on intros and outros. Radiant City just ends so abruptly, despite the rest of the album flowing.
My favourites haven't changed at all. Maybe they will over the next few months, maybe not, but my opinion hasn't really changed since those first three or so listens. Just that Pompeji sunk in more and I love it for what it is, and TSOM I like more (but still not like most here do). Ceremony, Urantia and Pompeji are the standouts on this album for me. And Ohms, which is probably because I didn't overplay it when the single was released.
I love this album and have listened to it non stop since I've had it. My favorite has to be genesis thus far. Each track is just a wall of sound that smacks you in the face like a tidal wave. I can't wait to see them in concert.
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Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 03, 2020, 05:07 AM
This Link is Dead > The Spell of Mathematics
it's like tlid got the wgtb verse chords, the atf feeling, and the fun old school jam awareness of cmnd/ctrl
Nailed It!
Even though Chino or Deftones might not be everyone's cup of tea I think it's very cool to see how whenever they release a new record the whole industry tunes in big time. And I don't see that with every artist. I think it's very cool how everyone stops to check out what Chino is doing whenever he is releasing something new .. he gets respect from other huge artists.. and I think that's rad.
Hoping to get some more music in the future. He's been quiet the last 5 years after really pumping out a ton of material. But I get it he has a family and he wasn't in LA as much. Hope we get a team sleep record. I'll be pretty bummed if they don't at least release a couple of tracks eventually.
Ceremony
Pompeji
The Spell of Mathematics
Radiant City
Error
Headless
This Link is Dead
Genesis
Urantia
Ohms
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Hoping to get some more music in the future. He's been quiet the last 5 years after really pumping out a ton of material. But I get it he has a family and he wasn't in LA as much. Hope we get a team sleep record. I'll be pretty bummed if they don't at least release a couple of tracks eventually.
In recent interviews Chino has said that new Crosses and Palms is in the works. I can't even remember the last time he mentioned Team Sleep, and that bums me out. I was just talking about it today how I wished he would revive that project, it's my favorite thing he's done outside of Deftones.
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 03, 2020, 07:09 PM
Still digging Radiant City but I wish the song faded out with Chino repeating the "I'll follow you now" line over and over. Yeah, I have some really odd nitpicks.
Good idea on ending with a fade out..... just realized not one track on this record does that! Can someone tell me the last song they faded out on? Cant think from top of my head right now but maybe its been a long time? Street Carp ends perfectly with the fading out. Best one i remember.... that riff at the end kills me every time
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 04, 2020, 02:13 PM
Can someone tell me the last song they faded out on?
I think it was Gauze?
it might be just because it's new, but this album seems to have the most ear worms of any of their albums. seems every song is pretty catchy
On the DeftonesLive song by song post series, This Link is Dead has now more likes than TSOM. It was also posted a little more recently obviously.
i feel like "ceremony" and "radiant city" should be the next singles
I'd be surprised if they made another video.
I don't understand the appeal of TLID... it sounded like it was going to be favorite track and ended up being my least favorite. IDK it just doesn't scratch that itch it's supposed to, there's way heavier/angrier songs in their catalog. They'll never top WGTB because Chino will never be that pissed again, and that's okay. He's happily married and has a great career. I'm happy for him, I wouldn't want them back in their "dark days" as they describe it. I'll take tracks like TSOM over TLID any day of the week.
poor Ohms getting embarrassed in the poll. i think it's my favorite so far (very early yet, i've heard the album less than 10 times), Ohms, radiant city, ceremony are top 3 at the moment. i'll admit Ohms video being so good helps
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 04, 2020, 05:08 PM
poor Ohms getting embarrassed in the poll. i think it's my favorite so far (very early yet, i've heard the album less than 10 times), Ohms, radiant city, ceremony are top 3 at the moment. i'll admit Ohms video being so good helps
I really screwed up by playing it as a single almost every day on the ride home b4 the record came. Not only does it not sound cohesive with the rest, i cant help but skip it and Genesis almost every listen. My theory is that it will jive again after some time off from them. Hoping to start the record from Genesis thru Ohms one of these days and retrain my brain on it :-\ i know how that sounds but its what it is
Loving this record more n more with every listen. But is it me or is the record a little "less" as far as details and sounds and small nuances as a whole compared to most their other records? I still discover little things and sometimes bigger things with their older records (hundreds if not thousands of listens)... but i worry this one is a little more cut and dry for me. Not llike some of DE or anything, but "less" for some reason. I love it but theres that
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Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 04, 2020, 05:08 PM
poor Ohms getting embarrassed in the poll. i think it's my favorite so far (very early yet, i've heard the album less than 10 times), Ohms, radiant city, ceremony are top 3 at the moment. i'll admit Ohms video being so good helps
I really screwed up by playing it as a single almost every day on the ride home b4 the record came. Not only does it not sound cohesive with the rest, i cant help but skip it and Genesis almost every listen. My theory is that it will jive again after some time off from them. Hoping to start the record from Genesis thru Ohms one of these days and retrain my brain on it :-\ i know how that sounds but its what it is
Yep, that was my fear, as has happened with other albums, so I really limited the listens to Ohms and didn't listen to Genesis at all.
I've definitely, in general now, stopped listening to single tracks when they're released as that over familiarity can be a real album killer but it's, admittedly, extremely difficult when you're really into a band and naturally want to hear stuff as soon as you can.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 04, 2020, 03:10 PM
On the DeftonesLive song by song post series, This Link is Dead has now more likes than TSOM. It was also posted a little more recently obviously.
Seems like I recall a very well respected member here requesting a "do over" on the poll at Week One after the release...lol
It's on the precipice of being too sludgy but the low end on TSOM sounds absolutely massive on good headphones.
I'm really loving Ceremony. It seems at first it's about walking away from something but those verses build up into that rush of jumping right back in again. Definitely too short though.
I really wish the chorus on Ceremony was the entire song.. It would be 10/10 for me if it was. Can't quite get in to the first half's "It's an illusssiiioooon" for some reason.
Every song has atleast 1 part (musically or vocally) that I absolutely love, but I think the only song that I 100% love everything on is still Headless. A few others are getting close though
Billboard shows Ohms ranked #5 on the Album Chart it's opening week. 49,000 Units sold.
Ranked #1 on the Vinyl Chart with 14,000 sold
Quote from: laurapalmer on Oct 05, 2020, 01:25 AM
Every song has atleast 1 part (musically or vocally) that I absolutely love, but I think the only song that I 100% love everything on is still Headless. A few others are getting close though
For me it's Headless and TSOM. Those songs are perfect in my eyes and quintessential Deftones.
Quote from: plagasx on Oct 05, 2020, 04:09 AM
Quote from: laurapalmer on Oct 05, 2020, 01:25 AM
Every song has atleast 1 part (musically or vocally) that I absolutely love, but I think the only song that I 100% love everything on is still Headless. A few others are getting close though
For me it's Headless and TSOM. Those songs are perfect in my eyes and quintessential Deftones.
No argument here. I didn't understand the universal love for TSOM at first, but it's the one that's creeping up the most
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
I got my 3 cassettes today but they were unsealed , the case on one was broke and didn't contain the signed card (
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
NOPE. Im in NC, USA.... where u at?
Quote from: kleptoned on Oct 06, 2020, 12:03 AM
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
I got my 3 cassettes today but they were unsealed , the case on one was broke and didn't contain the signed card (
Wtf. Sorry man. This is wtf. That has nothing to do with Covid... its rushed, pathetic and unprofessional
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 06, 2020, 12:09 AM
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
NOPE. Im in NC, USA.... where u at?
I see you fellow Tarheel!!!
Quote from: plagasx on Oct 04, 2020, 11:56 PM
I really wish the chorus on Ceremony was the entire song.. It would be 10/10 for me if it was. Can't quite get in to the first half's "It's an illusssiiioooon" for some reason.
This! Ceremony is their catchy track/chorus since WP imo. I wish the chorus repeated at least another two times. Soooo good.
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
Ordered the vinyl/hoodie/zine bundle and it's still showing estimated delivery of October 1st. Hasn't changed since I got the shipping notification a week ago. I went ahead and filed a dispute through my credit card company today. I'd rather have my money back at this point. If they were having issues they should have updated customers. FAQ page says orders placed before the 30th have "mostly" shipped. Looking on Reddit and it sounds like the people who are getting theirs are getting damaged products.
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 06, 2020, 03:06 AM
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
Ordered the vinyl/hoodie/zine bundle and it's still showing estimated delivery of October 1st. Hasn't changed since I got the shipping notification a week ago. I went ahead and filed a dispute through my credit card company today. I'd rather have my money back at this point. If they were having issues they should have updated customers. FAQ page says orders placed before the 30th have "mostly" shipped. Looking on Reddit and it sounds like the people who are getting theirs are getting damaged products.
Man...this is a bad look.
Fortunately got the art card but my tapes have a few scratches on the cases. They were packed loose in a cardboard envelope so it's not great.
It does seem a bit of a mess so far.
Still waiting on my clear vinyl, zine and t-shirt. Not good at all, poor service
s/t
adrenaline
wp
atf
ohms
de
kny
gore
snw
My cassettes and art card all came in just a cardboard envelope but were undamaged thankfully. The CD also came in a cardboard envelope, and the sleeve is just a cardboard one and it's a bit creased annoyingly. Not the best packaging at all. Still waiting on the t-shirt...
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 06, 2020, 09:53 AM
s/t
adrenaline
wp
atf
ohms
de
kny
gore
snw
Ssomeone else who Loves s/t. I just disagree with snw being the last.
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 06, 2020, 03:06 AM
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
Ordered the vinyl/hoodie/zine bundle and it's still showing estimated delivery of October 1st. Hasn't changed since I got the shipping notification a week ago. I went ahead and filed a dispute through my credit card company today. I'd rather have my money back at this point. If they were having issues they should have updated customers. FAQ page says orders placed before the 30th have "mostly" shipped. Looking on Reddit and it sounds like the people who are getting theirs are getting damaged products.
I emailed them last week and got a response a few days later saying that there were carrier delays due to COVID. Bullshit, since I've ordered and received many other products delivered by that same carrier. This really sucks.
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
Yeah overall I think this album is my favourite lyrically along with WP.
Just read through all the posts since the album leaked. What a trip! Some great insights and descriptions of the songs - I was trying to avoid reading them until I listened to the album a few times.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 06, 2020, 03:16 AM
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 06, 2020, 03:06 AM
Quote from: Draken on Oct 05, 2020, 11:51 PM
Quote from: DenakDW on Oct 05, 2020, 10:24 PM
I've taken my time now... and I this record may have my favorite Chino lyrics ever. Amazing record.
Anyone else feeling this?
I was waiting to get my LP in the mail to read the lyrics and listen along with the music but my order still says it's in "Pre-Transit" and I haven't received shit. Pretty disappointed by this, even if it's covid delayed it'd be nice to receive an email update... sigh, oh well. Anyone who ordered from deftones.com get their pre-order items yet?
Ordered the vinyl/hoodie/zine bundle and it's still showing estimated delivery of October 1st. Hasn't changed since I got the shipping notification a week ago. I went ahead and filed a dispute through my credit card company today. I'd rather have my money back at this point. If they were having issues they should have updated customers. FAQ page says orders placed before the 30th have "mostly" shipped. Looking on Reddit and it sounds like the people who are getting theirs are getting damaged products.
Man...this is a bad look.
I ordered my clear vinyl w/ zine the day they became available and I received my package last Friday 10/2.
Actually popped in to see if anyone else is having delays on their pre-order. Glad I'm not the only one
Ordered the regular vinyl and the clear vynl + zine and still nothing. They sent me a tracking number with an estimated delivery date of Oct 2nd but it hasn't even mailed out yet
I'm in northeast USA
Nothing yet here either in the upper Midwest. No estimated date even :/
My bundle came today. Took a minute, but it's here.
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 06, 2020, 09:12 PM
My bundle came today. Took a minute, but it's here.
Did you get any updates on your tracking number or did it just show up?
No updates really. I got one email when it shipped, which was 11 days ago lol. In that email, there's an option to track your package, but when I clicked it, it wouldn't tell me anything really. Or maybe it did, I wasn't really checking much in the past few days tbh. I'm in NY btw, so other east coasters, hopefully you'll get yours delivered soon.
No update on my order yet either. Same as everyone else, got an email that it shipped and the tracking just says that it's in pre-transit. Don't know what that means really. I sent an email today but it just auto generated a reply with the FAQ that says orders were delayed, blah blah blah. I'm in TX so I'll probably be one of the last to get mine. Sorely disappointed with this but hey what can you do...
I've already exhausted the album on repeat listens and I still feel the same way about the songs except I have warmed up to Error a lot more now. My gf too even says she likes the song more and she hated it at first. I always liked the chorus, and I still don't care for the beginning verses but it's no longer at the bottom. TLID is the weakest for me while TSOM still reigns supreme. Urantia is still my 2nd favorite track with Genesis and Ohms right behind.
Anyone notice in Urantia at around 3:20 where the voice on the CB radio or whatever perfectly sounds in sync with the rhythm and melody.... ESPECIALLY the very end of it? At the very end of that part, her last few words jive right in and ill bet they worked at that and i find it very clever and interesting. If u dont get it, go and have a clear listen, its pretty fucking rad. Didnt like the whole part at first but more i listened i found it to be in harmony with the music or beat. Probably Chino's idea of i had to guess but i wouldnt rule out Terry on that timing there either. Nice little gem
Also..... sounds to me she may be saying "and it keeps me cumming" right at the end of it ::) those are the words that really follow the rhythm
Man those fucking skins sound so crisp and deep in Pompeji! Hearing a lot of ppl saying the drums r a little too hidden or behind on the record and i sorta agree bc there r a few tracks they sound perfect to me like Pompeji and Urantia off top of my head. But yeah, TSOM coulda went harder especially with the snaps.... i woulda equalized the two myself i think. But we are hearing what they wanted us to here is what I keep telling myself and it works for me
Just got a notification from usps that my bundle will be delivered tomorrow.
Straight Up, Ohms is the Best 46 minutes of 2020
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 07, 2020, 04:33 AM
Straight Up, Ohms is the Best 46 minutes of 2020
agreed. this one is pretty high up there in their discography
??? Anyone else catch the whole "pinkish red" cigarette thing on Urantia possibly being a nod or something to Mr. Bungle? Ala Pink Cigarette? We all know Chino likes to sex things up a bit, or phemonize (not what im trying to go for, but for the sake of point) but he loves Patton and i know that song and cant get the idea out of my head.... pretty cool either way, if or if not
Btw, M.B. Is baaaaaaack for all the ones here interested in that. Pretty rad lineup of dudes too. Chk it out
To the people who broke the source code of their website when they teased "Ohms", you got your couple seconds of glory (4:50) ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2NS_iZB8_Y
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 07, 2020, 04:33 AM
Straight Up, Ohms is the Best 46 minutes of 2020
Agreed, but the new The ocean record ...not too far behind, imo.
Speaking about Ohms, I'll probably listen to it again. It's been almost a week. I had to give it a rest after pretty much nonstop for the first 3 days or something. I wonder if the order of songs I like the most will change.
Living with the whole album now, I think the title track is a top three song on here.
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 07, 2020, 11:20 PM
Living with the whole album now, I think the title track is a top three song on here.
I agree. Brings the entire album together
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 07, 2020, 12:59 PM
To the people who broke the source code of their website when they teased "Ohms", you got your couple seconds of glory ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2NS_iZB8_Y
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Been spinning my clear vinyl daily. It sounds great and the rainbow metallic jacket pops. I fucking adore this record and every second on it but I still think Error is still my favorite.
Abe gave everyone too much credit. It's literally a right click and select "view page source" to see the underlying html.
I hate coding. I would never have taken the time to do that
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 07, 2020, 11:20 PM
Living with the whole album now, I think the title track is a top three song on here.
Definitely, title track is one is of my faves.
Quote from: nicklav on Oct 08, 2020, 03:06 AM
Abe gave everyone too much credit. It's literally a right click and select "view page source" to see the underlying html.
no. the guy that hacked the code-
(https://i.ibb.co/PWr9gM4/X.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 08, 2020, 12:26 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Oct 08, 2020, 03:06 AM
Abe gave everyone too much credit. It's literally a right click and select "view page source" to see the underlying html.
no. the guy that hacked the code-
(https://i.ibb.co/PWr9gM4/X.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
lmao
Does "Genesis" (in Bizarro) mean this is this the final deftones album?
If anything it means beginning or origin... opposite of the end i would think.
Something I should probably mention for those still waiting for their online store purchases: I received my shipment today despite having never been notified by mail of shipment. I don't know if the issue is purely on my end or theirs, but do not be surprised in case the same happens to you.
The issue is purely on their end, whatever is going on it's not a good look. Update: I just received an email and now the tracking says I should get my order by next Wednesday. Idk whether to believe it this time but I'll be optimistic...
Not at all, some countries have their entire mailing system troubled because of the pandemic. I ordered a CD off discogs in June and it was sent back to the US (from the UK) in late August because it was never dispatched to my local delivery center.
Be patient, most likely there's nothing management can do. You'll get your stuff, it might just take a little longer. It's not just Deftones their and their new album. Tons of businesses have similar issues.
Not really. Mail seems to be working fine over here in the states, but idk about CA which is where it's coming from. Everything else I've ordered online has been delivered to me no problem, I can even order an entire 4 course meal and have it delivered to my house, but not a Deftones vinyl... I'm being patient and trying to keep cool but I can't help but be a little disappointed over the whole ordeal...
*OhMmmmmmmmmmsss*
Yeah I've ordered plenty of stuff during the pandemic and got in on time. This is strictly a Warner issue. Looks like my order finally shipped but I've already got my charge back. So if it shows up I'm just gonna refuse it. From what I've seen it's more than likely damaged anyway.
My package from UPS is waiting to arrive to the facility since September 25th and no updates or nothing at all. Frustrating af for sure.
I got an update today, so check your tracking numbers again. The estimated arrival date finally changed from Oct 2nd to Oct 15th and it's out of pre-transit. Looks like my package (eyyy-oh!) left Anaheim, CA at 11am yesterday, Oct 8th, and headed to NYC
I'm not mad at it. I been listening to the album on youtube premium subscription. I just thought it was odd that I got an estimated delivery date of Oct 2nd, and the package didn't even start it's delivery journey until a week later. Had never seen that before.
I bet most people still waiting will at least have some action on their tracking number by early next week
It's way too quiet...
I've got my ass kicked...and it's a very bad evening...
Give it up, make some fucking noise for the...
tf?
probably drug
haven't listened to ohms for a week and don't really feel like doing so, it's a fine album but don't really think it has anything more to say
U dont sit there and watch over n over till u have Chino down word for word or anything right?
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9463449/deftones-ohms-album-hot-hard-rock-songs-chart (https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9463449/deftones-ohms-album-hot-hard-rock-songs-chart)
not like there's much competition in hard rock out there these days but that's cool, all 10 songs...
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 10, 2020, 01:35 PM
U dont sit there and watch over n over till u have Chino down word for word or anything right?
LOL, you got me dude...
Quote from: Draken on Oct 10, 2020, 04:23 PM
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9463449/deftones-ohms-album-hot-hard-rock-songs-chart (https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9463449/deftones-ohms-album-hot-hard-rock-songs-chart)
not like there's much competition in hard rock out there these days but that's cool, all 10 songs...
That is fantastic!! Go Ohms!!
;D
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 10, 2020, 05:55 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 10, 2020, 01:35 PM
U dont sit there and watch over n over till u have Chino down word for word or anything right?
LOL, you got me dude...
I just wanna say what i though would happen, has happened. Headless was my least favorite song on the record when i first listened to it a couple of times. After exhausting all the catchiness of the other songs, headless has now grown on me and is my new favorite.
All according to keikaku.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Oct 11, 2020, 09:21 PM
I just wanna say what i though would happen, has happened. Headless was my least favorite song on the record when i first listened to it a couple of times. After exhausting all the catchiness of the other songs, headless has now grown on me and is my new favorite.
All according to keikaku.
That's really cool good for you. I really really like the record but I'm worried I'm going to play it out so I'm trying to keep it down but I just love it more and more with every taste.. Like you, I didn't really dig UrantIa that much for a while and now it's the biggest grower for me. That's a rad song it's just something totally unexpected for me from them. He sounds a lot like Robert Smith in it which is a really good thing and I just get these really 80s Pop rock vibes but then there's those little electronica pieces in it that just come from nowhere which weirded me out at first but now it sounds so natural and great to me. God I love this band. Love how "dreamy" Error is also. Song titles don't really mean anything to me but I really wish it had a different name because when I hear this song it's the last word on earth I can think of ::)
The second half to Error sounds like something straight out of Palms.... That's not really a good thing imo. Wasn't a fan of Chino's airy hallway like vocals in Palms.
This thread has screeched to a halt. Was expected but only 2 weeks after release. Hmmm.
Someone quoted me asking about Genesis sounding like Jane's Addiction. Anytime I hear vocalists for guitar based bands post 1988 use echo/delay on their vocals it always reminds me of Perry Farrell. Not a bad thing. To be clear the music for Genesis didn't remind me of Jane's.
Despite Chino in several interviews saying that Deftones record each album with no plan on what a new album will sound like he's also said in many interviews how Deftones are known for their dynamics. Deftones know what the fans want and they probably keep in mind Deftones are kind of like a brand. Like a bottle of Smirnoff. Deftones songs remind me a lot like Nirvana in practice. Loud. Quiet. It's kind of like like buying a can of Pepsi with Deftones. You can expect to know what you're buying. Similar to AC/DC. The next album will probably follow the same loud/quiet formula. Not a bad thing. Just be interesting if they took more musical risks and broke away from their loud/quiet formula.
It'd be cool to hear Deftones do more songs where the mood and feel of the track is consistent through the whole song. Like soft vocals only, use of different vocal effects throughout for dynamics, no screams, with ethereal, textural, ambient, chill, more experimental music. Or songs with full on guitar brutality with screaming/yelled vocals throughout and more use of vocal effects for vocal dynamics. On some tracks wish Abe used double bass and could really hear Abe expand his drum kit with more drums and cymbals to also expand Deftones overall sound. He'll probably never throw in an extra kick drum to his kit though.
Overall Ohms is good. Past albums are better tho IMO.
btw rumor has it Deftones are going to do the theme song for the next Jame's Bond movie. :P On a serious note why haven't Deftones been a musical guest on Saturday Night Live yet???!!
I still keep getting faith no more and Mr. bungle vibes from some of chinos lyrics on this record but also on past records. When he sings "we sway in the wind" on the spell of mathematics.... Mike Patton says that in "falling to pieces". Almost exact but not quite. I know its a basic or common phrase but im quite convinced considering the fandom Chino has for Mike and his projects. Not nitpicking, just pointing it out. I know most of Patton's music, and i catch it. Robert Smith, etc i could go on forever.... and im talking strictly LYRICS. Its obvious his singing is influenced already. Hes just been better IMO at certain times in his career
Quote from: plagasx on Oct 11, 2020, 11:49 PM
The second half to Error sounds like something straight out of Palms.... That's not really a good thing imo. Wasn't a fan of Chino's airy hallway like vocals in Palms.
"Hallway like"....... genius. You, i mean. Nice way to describe it. Spot on. I like it only bc it really fits the music there. Feel like nothing else would. But nice description
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Oct 12, 2020, 05:49 AM
Someone quoted me asking about Genesis sounding like Jane's Addiction. Anytime I hear vocalists for guitar based bands post 1988 use echo/delay on their vocals it always reminds me of Perry Farrell. Not a bad thing. To be clear the music for Genesis didn't remind me of Jane's.
Despite Chino in several interviews saying that Deftones record each album with no plan on what a new album will sound like he's also said in many interviews how Deftones are known for their dynamics. Deftones know what the fans want and they probably keep in mind Deftones are kind of like a brand. Like a bottle of Smirnoff. Deftones songs remind me a lot like Nirvana in practice. Loud. Quiet. It's kind of like like buying a can of Pepsi with Deftones. You can expect to know what you're buying. Similar to AC/DC. The next album will probably follow the same loud/quiet formula. Not a bad thing. Just be interesting if they took more musical risks and broke away from their loud/quiet formula.
It'd be cool to hear Deftones do more songs where the mood and feel of the track is consistent through the whole song. Like soft vocals only, use of different vocal effects throughout for dynamics, no screams, with ethereal, textural, ambient, chill, more experimental music. Or songs with full on guitar brutality with screaming/yelled vocals throughout and more use of vocal effects for vocal dynamics. On some tracks wish Abe used double bass and could really hear Abe expand his drum kit with more drums and cymbals to also expand Deftones overall sound. He'll probably never throw in an extra kick drum to his kit though.
Overall Ohms is good. Past albums are better tho IMO.
btw rumor has it Deftones are going to do the theme song for the next Jame's Bond movie. :P On a serious note why haven't Deftones been a musical guest on Saturday Night Live yet???!!
Doesn't Urantia seem pretty consistent like you're wishing for? I think its pretty straight fwd in that aspect
BTW, weird song title for that track. Way off. Just like Error. Hos naming of songs seems lazy to me the last decade. Tired of it. No surprises anymore there.... just the music. Love when a song title really resonates with me toward it's song and he just doesn't do it. Pompeji, i get.
I don't know who said it but I remember someone saying something about Genesis' last line in the bridge section of the song needing more time to sort of build up and climax. The line "I can show you" instead of being followed directly by "climbing out of the ashes" needed time to breath and reach it's pinnacle: "I can show YOOOU". I didn't really understand what they were talking about at the time but now I hear it, I think it would sound amazing. Still love the song it's still in the top 3 for me.
Quote from: Draken on Oct 13, 2020, 06:26 AM
I don't know who said it but I remember someone saying something about Genesis' last line in the bridge section of the song needing more time to sort of build up and climax. The line "I can show you" instead of being followed directly by "climbing out of the ashes" needed time to breath and reach it's pinnacle: "I can show YOOOU". I didn't really understand what they were talking about at the time but now I hear it, I think it would sound amazing. Still love the song it's still in the top 3 for me.
Yup that was me! Genesis needed one more "I'll show you the way " in the bridge . Where chino goes really high and just nails it... but all good. Still a bitching song. Record has grown on me a lot.
I agree tho the song titles are boring now... and I'd also like to hear less screamy verses and soft chorus's.. if it's a softer song make it a softer song... don't need to be screaming just to do it... I feel like Chino pushed screaming where he didn't need to on some songs..
Still want Stephen it to back to the 6 string and make one more record... will never happen but I can dream.
Still waiting for my pre-order, with no response from the support team :/
Quote from: Martin on Oct 13, 2020, 06:52 PM
Still waiting for my pre-order, with no response from the support team :/
I finally got mine yesterday (Southern California) so hopefully the rest are not too far off!
Wow looking at the poll..... I don't believe any one of their other records could be as evened out as this one is with the exception of TSOM. Its just all bangers no fillers wtsoever imo. Mods should di another soon and see how it changes. Bc a lot of ppl change their minds daily. ::)
It was a fun time to refresh this page so often over the last couple of months, I will miss it :'(
Ohms is my top tier and will always have a special place in my heart. Someone said Genesis and Spell will be the fan favorites. Whoever said that was so right...
Anyone else feel like this is maybe their catchiest album ever? I've never considered Deftones a particularly catchy band (with the possible exception of WP) but I've had to put this album on ice for like 2 weeks because many of the songs have just been stuck in my head relentlessly lately. Ceremony, TSOM, and Radiant City ESPECIALLY.
Quote from: E-Money on Oct 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
I'd also like to hear less screamy verses and soft chorus's.. if it's a softer song make it a softer song... don't need to be screaming just to do it... I feel like Chino pushed screaming where he didn't need to on some songs..
I've kinda felt that way for awhile now too, he just sorta tacks on the screams (for whatever reason) but imo he doesn't need to scream all the time. For example, (L)mirl is a track where the screaming is unnecessary, it ruins the song for me. I honestly don't feel that way with Ohms though, all the screaming belongs and work especially well on TSOM. Likewise the title track is a good example where a song sounds like Deftones without the screaming.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Oct 14, 2020, 01:15 AM
Anyone else feel like this is maybe their catchiest album ever?.
yea i'd say Ohms, and probably diamond eyes are the catchiest deftones records. also think Ohms might be the heaviest since ATF, but just barely over s/t or snw. they're all kinda that amount of heavy, i just think ohms is ever so slightly heavier(no ballads really, all songs but ohms have screams(well Urantia just has 1 scream, the i in "i guess!"), and even ohms has some bangin parts and is pretty heavy, and most songs have at least one really aggressive guitar riff). adrenaline and ATF are still by far their heaviest albums
Yeah, agreed. DE is the only album that comes remotely close to this in terms of catchiness.
I think all the choruses on ATF are very catchy tbh
they've had plenty of catchy material including ATF, what I meant was stuff that gets stuck in your head for days/weeks.
2nd week sales billboard 200, ohms is #75
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 14, 2020, 05:15 AM
also think Ohms might be the heaviest since ATF, but just barely over s/t or snw.
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Do you really believe that or are you just still in the honeymoon phase?
If you mean musically heavy, it's probably Adrenaline or ATF. If you mean emotionally heavy, it's S/T no contest. Ohms isn't THAT heavy, but it's more consistently heavy than I expected. I expected a softer album with 1 or 2 token heavy songs to appease the hardcore fans.
Quote from: Draken on Oct 14, 2020, 04:05 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 14, 2020, 05:15 AM
also think Ohms might be the heaviest since ATF, but just barely over s/t or snw.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/CggoHW4h87Ktq/giphy.gif)
Do you really believe that or are you just still in the honeymoon phase?
might still be in honeymoon phase. but i mean none of the albums are even close to atf and adrenaline heavy. i made the case for this one overall cause it has no ballads really. but i'll probably need a year for it to be my final opinon on it. i don't think there's a clear cut 100% 3rd heaviest album by them, but this one is it by a bit in my opinion(but i do need more time with it for sure). it's the most consistently heavy since atf(might not have something quite as heavy as elite, korea, wgtb, bloody cape, rapture etc, but not far off, and it keeps heavy throughout more) why, do you think i'm way off here?
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Oct 14, 2020, 04:29 PM
If you mean musically heavy, it's probably Adrenaline or ATF. If you mean emotionally heavy, it's S/T no contest. Ohms isn't THAT heavy, but it's more consistently heavy than I expected. I expected a softer album with 1 or 2 token heavy songs to appease the hardcore fans.
i'd say Gore is probably their softest, but it's still a fairly heavy rock album.
I believe theres a chance that ill say Ohms is my favorite Deftones record one day. Theres a chance, its so good. I think anyone here that doesn't really enjoy it and is disappointed with it overall should just listen to something else because if this isn't Deftones to you then I don't think this band is for you anymore in my opinion. It's the essence of them this record. How can one complain about it? Fucking brilliant
Still don't understand why stef is using a 8-9 string guitar. Ohms and Gore get nothing out of it. Very few chuggy songs. 7 string F# (SNW) or G# (Self-titled) sound 100x better.
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 14, 2020, 06:32 PM
I believe theres a chance that ill say Ohms is my favorite Deftones record one day. Theres a chance, its so good. I think anyone here that doesn't really enjoy it and is disappointed with it overall should just listen to something else because if this isn't Deftones to you then I don't think this band is for you anymore in my opinion. It's the essence of them this record. How can one complain about it? Fucking brilliant
I can name several things that I don't like about it. And outside of this forum and reddit, people I know IRL, agree w me.
I love that Chino keeps the distortion on for the clean singing on This Link Is Dead. Works really well.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 14, 2020, 04:33 PM
Quote from: Draken on Oct 14, 2020, 04:05 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 14, 2020, 05:15 AM
also think Ohms might be the heaviest since ATF, but just barely over s/t or snw.
Do you really believe that or are you just still in the honeymoon phase?
might still be in honeymoon phase. but i mean none of the albums are even close to atf and adrenaline heavy. i made the case for this one overall cause it has no ballads really. but i'll probably need a year for it to be my final opinon on it. i don't think there's a clear cut 100% 3rd heaviest album by them, but this one is it by a bit in my opinion(but i do need more time with it for sure). it's the most consistently heavy since atf(might not have something quite as heavy as elite, korea, wgtb, bloody cape, rapture etc, but not far off, and it keeps heavy throughout more) why, do you think i'm way off here?
Not at all, if that's your opinion then who's to say you're off. It's subjective anyway, if you say heavy in terms of no soft slow songs or ballads then I can see that. If you ask me, I wouldn't describe the record as heavy tbh. It's got grooves and Stef's signature style but I don't think it's heavier than S/T. I think Genesis might be the heaviest they've done in awhile but as an entire record I think S/T is heavier in terms of aggression and the real emotional turmoil of that era, like secretbandinsider said.
But yeah in the past I've changed my mind a lot about their albums over time, I didn't like S/T, SNW, or DE that much at first but over the years S/T is now my personal favorite, SNW has grown on me, and DE was my favorite Sergio era until Ohms came in and pushed it aside. Hell, I didn't even like Mascara at first but now it's a favorite. WP is probably the one record of theirs that I haven't changed my mind on, I've always loved it and think of it as their masterpiece, and it's got some great heavy moments.
Genesis is heavy.
Quote from: Draken on Oct 14, 2020, 07:10 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 14, 2020, 04:33 PM
Quote from: Draken on Oct 14, 2020, 04:05 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 14, 2020, 05:15 AM
also think Ohms might be the heaviest since ATF, but just barely over s/t or snw.
Do you really believe that or are you just still in the honeymoon phase?
might still be in honeymoon phase. but i mean none of the albums are even close to atf and adrenaline heavy. i made the case for this one overall cause it has no ballads really. but i'll probably need a year for it to be my final opinon on it. i don't think there's a clear cut 100% 3rd heaviest album by them, but this one is it by a bit in my opinion(but i do need more time with it for sure). it's the most consistently heavy since atf(might not have something quite as heavy as elite, korea, wgtb, bloody cape, rapture etc, but not far off, and it keeps heavy throughout more) why, do you think i'm way off here?
Not at all, if that's your opinion then who's to say you're off. It's subjective anyway, if you say heavy in terms of no soft slow songs or ballads then I can see that. If you ask me, I wouldn't describe the record as heavy tbh. It's got grooves and Stef's signature style but I don't think it's heavier than S/T. I think Genesis might be the heaviest they've done in awhile but as an entire record I think S/T is heavier in terms of aggression and the real emotional turmoil of that era, like secretbandinsider said.
But yeah in the past I've changed my mind a lot about their albums over time, I didn't like S/T, SNW, or DE that much at first but over the years S/T is now my personal favorite, SNW has grown on me, and DE was my favorite Sergio era until Ohms came in and pushed it aside. Hell, I didn't even like Mascara at first but now it's a favorite. WP is probably the one record of theirs that I haven't changed my mind on, I've always loved it and think of it as their masterpiece, and it's got some great heavy moments.
I remember when i had this discussion with hidalgo years ago. it ended abruptly when he said that like linus was heavier than s/t.
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 14, 2020, 08:17 PM
I remember when i had this discussion with hidalgo years ago. it ended abruptly when he said that like linus was heavier than s/t.
lmao ;D
I FINALLY received my pre-order today!
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Beautiful 👌
Quote from: Draken on Oct 14, 2020, 08:52 PM
I FINALLY received my pre-order today!
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Nice! Very festive dude!
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Quote from: Visionz on Oct 14, 2020, 06:32 PM
I believe theres a chance that ill say Ohms is my favorite Deftones record one day. Theres a chance, its so good. I think anyone here that doesn't really enjoy it and is disappointed with it overall should just listen to something else because if this isn't Deftones to you then I don't think this band is for you anymore in my opinion. It's the essence of them this record. How can one complain about it? Fucking brilliant
I can name several things that I don't like about it. And outside of this forum and reddit, people I know IRL, agree w me.
Well, I didn't exactly say it was perfect but I'm not complaining. I said if you're disappointed overall and dont enjoy it. I dont love some of the vocal effects but i enjoy it. Its Deftones at a peak moment. A second wind if u will
I still haven't received my package, and wanted to ask if the inner sleeve, artwork, pictures are interesting? Is there a nice lyric jacket and any pics besides the four pictures I seen of them in the studio recording it? By the way I didn't notice Chino in the four pictures because there are five members.... Maybe I missed it?
My bundle is expected to arrive tomorrow...finally. Anyone know if they are sending the vinyls along with the clothing? I received an email a while back saying they may ship separately?
I took about a week off from the album.
I'm still into it - SOM is still my favorite. Ceremony is a close 2nd now, and on first listen I didn't care for it at all. Same with Radiant City - super into it now. I'm least into Genesis and Ohms, probably because I played them a hundred times each before the album was released.
I hope everyone is well.
I know some of you guys criticized the mix when it first dropped and I'm hearing it. Some of the songs sound kind of tinny, right?
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 12, 2020, 11:49 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Oct 12, 2020, 05:49 AM
Someone quoted me asking about Genesis sounding like Jane's Addiction. Anytime I hear vocalists for guitar based bands post 1988 use echo/delay on their vocals it always reminds me of Perry Farrell. Not a bad thing. To be clear the music for Genesis didn't remind me of Jane's.
Despite Chino in several interviews saying that Deftones record each album with no plan on what a new album will sound like he's also said in many interviews how Deftones are known for their dynamics. Deftones know what the fans want and they probably keep in mind Deftones are kind of like a brand. Like a bottle of Smirnoff. Deftones songs remind me a lot like Nirvana in practice. Loud. Quiet. It's kind of like like buying a can of Pepsi with Deftones. You can expect to know what you're buying. Similar to AC/DC. The next album will probably follow the same loud/quiet formula. Not a bad thing. Just be interesting if they took more musical risks and broke away from their loud/quiet formula.
It'd be cool to hear Deftones do more songs where the mood and feel of the track is consistent through the whole song. Like soft vocals only, use of different vocal effects throughout for dynamics, no screams, with ethereal, textural, ambient, chill, more experimental music. Or songs with full on guitar brutality with screaming/yelled vocals throughout and more use of vocal effects for vocal dynamics. On some tracks wish Abe used double bass and could really hear Abe expand his drum kit with more drums and cymbals to also expand Deftones overall sound. He'll probably never throw in an extra kick drum to his kit though.
Overall Ohms is good. Past albums are better tho IMO.
btw rumor has it Deftones are going to do the theme song for the next Jame's Bond movie. :P On a serious note why haven't Deftones been a musical guest on Saturday Night Live yet???!!
Doesn't Urantia seem pretty consistent like you're wishing for? I think its pretty straight fwd in that aspect
BTW, weird song title for that track. Way off. Just like Error. Hos naming of songs seems lazy to me the last decade. Tired of it. No surprises anymore there.... just the music. Love when a song title really resonates with me toward it's song and he just doesn't do it. Pompeji, i get.
That's one song of ten. They've talked about sequencing of songs an on album. What if tracks on a Deftones album alternated? Like song 1 being heavy/screaming, song 2 song more experimental/no screaming, song 3 heavy/with screaming, repeat, etc.? Or if they are going to release albums on tape and vinyl make one side really heavy/fast/with screaming and the other side more musically experimental with no screaming vocals? Or on a CD like Ohms with 10 songs that would mean the first 5 songs are heavy with screaming vocals and the last 5 songs are more experimental with no screaming vocals. Or vice versa.
Deftones have never released a double album. What if they did and album 1 was ten songs, all heavy, with screams and then album 2 was also ten songs of more experimental music with less emphasis on Metal and no screaming vocals? 20 new Deftones songs!
Deftones have never released a proper EP of new songs like the Alice in Chains "Sap" EP either. A Deftones EP with 4 new songs could be a way to test the alternating format out. Like 2 heavy more Metal songs with screaming vocals then 2 non screaming less Metal songs. The EP could be released on CD, vinyl, and tape and on DVD/ Blu Ray to also make it a visual EP.
Man, I feel bad for anyone who is already bored with the album. I was worried that would happen to me, and I was worried that every time I would return to it I would feel further disappointed like I did with Gore. But that hasn't happened - in fact I feel re-engerized every time I take a break and then put it back on. God I love this album.
This link is dead - 3:45 to the end - might be one of Deftones biggest moments for me since Rodleen on Knife party.
OHMS is on my top 3 now!
Jesus Christ, this are my favorite chino's lyrics since self titled.
Quote from: punkflop01 on Oct 15, 2020, 11:34 AM
This link is dead - 3:45 to the end - might be one of Deftones biggest moments for me since Rodleen on Knife party Annie Hardy on Pink cellphone
fixed
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 15, 2020, 03:19 PM
Quote from: punkflop01 on Oct 15, 2020, 11:34 AM
This link is dead - 3:45 to the end - might be one of Deftones biggest moments for me since Rodleen on Knife party Annie Hardy on Pink cellphone
fixed
Haha!
I just got an update on my UPS Deftones package, it has an arriving date which is Saturday but the weird thing is that it was already in California but I guess now is back in Kansas which is weird af but I'm glad that I finally got an update and an specific delivery date.
Ohms is still amazing. I haven't lost my desire to listen to it, even after dozens of plays.
The best track on the album is Ceremony. Final answer.
It's followed closely by Urantia and Error.
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 15, 2020, 03:19 PM
Quote from: punkflop01 on Oct 15, 2020, 11:34 AM
This link is dead - 3:45 to the end - might be one of Deftones biggest moments for me since Rodleen on Knife party Annie Hardy on Pink cellphone
fixed
yikes
Surprisingly I haven't been listening to it as much as I thought I would. Not for any particular reason as I have it on now. Headless is still the best track
Edit: never thought I'd say this but I theres parts of it where I don't care for the production on the vocals.
Second edit: Ohms is probably one of the best songs on the record
Quote from: nicklav on Oct 13, 2020, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Martin on Oct 13, 2020, 06:52 PM
Still waiting for my pre-order, with no response from the support team :/
I finally got mine yesterday (Southern California) so hopefully the rest are not too far off!
Unfortunately not (in The Netherlands).
I did get a reply from the support team; it hasn't shipped out yet.
That does answer the underlying fear that it had been lost in shipping, so that's something. I suppose maybe I'll get it around Christmas?
I'm still waiting for the t-shirt from my preorder bundle in the UK :(
Quote from: IN WAVES on Oct 16, 2020, 05:08 AMThe best track on the album is Ceremony. Final answer.
It's followed closely by Urantia and Error.
Literally
After listening to this album dozens of times, I think it's a mid-pack Deftones album. Albums I would personally place ahead of it are WP, ATF, ST, and SNW. It is a solid album but too repetitive and not very innovative. TSOM is my favorite track.
A mid-tier Deftones album is a great album.
Quote from: Shells on Oct 16, 2020, 08:24 AM
I'm still waiting for the t-shirt from my preorder bundle in the UK :(
Same! really poor service this
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Oct 16, 2020, 02:07 PM
It is a solid album but too repetitive and not very innovative.
This. It'd be interesting to hear Deftones stay true to who they are and also incorporate more Math Metal/Prog influences with new music resulting in an Alt Prog sound.
Had Chi never died what would Deftones have continued to sound like and how would've Chi evolved as a bass player? Chi's playing undoubtedly affected how and what the rest of the band played and probably even how Chino sings and his lyrics. Chi's style and even choice of bass is different to Sergio's. No disrespect to Sergio. Sergio and Chi have different styles though. There was an interview with Chi where he mentioned being really musically influenced by recordings from Studio One which is a Jamaican record label that put out reggae, dub, and other Jamaican music. Personally I could really hear those influences and this is even mentioned on Wikipedia for Chi regarding recording Change.
Quote from: Martin on Oct 16, 2020, 06:24 AM
Quote from: nicklav on Oct 13, 2020, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Martin on Oct 13, 2020, 06:52 PM
Still waiting for my pre-order, with no response from the support team :/
I finally got mine yesterday (Southern California) so hopefully the rest are not too far off!
Unfortunately not (in The Netherlands).
I did get a reply from the support team; it hasn't shipped out yet.
That does answer the underlying fear that it had been lost in shipping, so that's something. I suppose maybe I'll get it around Christmas?
Wow.
A couple of hours later and the mailman delivered the entire pre-order!
Woop woop!
EDIT: I feel I can now finally keep listening to this album on repeat, now that I heard it properly (on some physical format).
Quote from: E-Money on Oct 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
I'd also like to hear less screamy verses and soft chorus's.. if it's a softer song make it a softer song... don't need to be screaming just to do it... I feel like Chino pushed screaming where he didn't need to on some songs..
I agree. I really wanted a slower atmospheric song on the album in the same vein as a Sextape or Beauty School. We got close with Pompeji but I feel like his screams, while good, were unnecessary in that song.
I got my pre-order yesterday, so I'm set. The only problem now - my record player went ka-put. It straight up won't spin. I haven't used it in about a month - it's some random Amazon crap i've had for like 8 years, and the speakers blow... So now I have a nice new Vinyl and nothing to play it on so I can finally look into something I've had my eye on for awhile
https://www.andoveraudio.com/collections/spinbase-turntable-music-system
Quote from: plagasx on Oct 16, 2020, 11:39 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Oct 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
I'd also like to hear less screamy verses and soft chorus's.. if it's a softer song make it a softer song... don't need to be screaming just to do it... I feel like Chino pushed screaming where he didn't need to on some songs..
I agree. I really wanted a slower atmospheric song on the album in the same vein as a Sextape or Beauty School. We got close with Pompeji but I feel like his screams, while good, were unnecessary in that song.
I fully agree with this
Quote from: laurapalmer on Oct 16, 2020, 05:53 AM
Surprisingly I haven't been listening to it as much as I thought I would. Not for any particular reason as I have it on now. Headless is still the best track
Edit: never thought I'd say this but I theres parts of it where I don't care for the production on the vocals.
Second edit: Ohms is probably one of the best songs on the record
Ohms is really a standout track. Never thought so when i first heard it , but after hearing it with the entire album, I realize how much I love that song. It's just so energetic and actually turned out to be a great closer for the album.
The Spell Of Mathematics, Error and Ohms are my current top three.
The more I hear TLID & Radiant City the more they remind me of Faith No More
Quote from: plagasx on Oct 16, 2020, 11:39 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Oct 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
I'd also like to hear less screamy verses and soft chorus's.. if it's a softer song make it a softer song... don't need to be screaming just to do it... I feel like Chino pushed screaming where he didn't need to on some songs..
I agree. I really wanted a slower atmospheric song on the album in the same vein as a Sextape or Beauty School. We got close with Pompeji but I feel like his screams, while good, were unnecessary in that song.
The people have spoken. Be cool if Deftones got together in the next few months and recorded a slower atmospheric single with no screaming that went direct to streaming.
I find it hilarious that everyone wanted chino to scream on this album. He does on virtually every track sans ohms now everyone is clamoring for slow, sextape type songs with no screaming. If this album would've been all softer, slower tracks y'all would complain there is little to no screaming. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Haha.
100% true
Deftones give 0 fucks what any of us want to hear, that's why they're still relevant and enjoy what they do.
Quote from: only pieces remain on Oct 17, 2020, 01:40 PM
I find it hilarious that everyone wanted chino to scream on this album. He does on virtually every track sans ohms now everyone is clamoring for slow, sextape type songs with no screaming. If this album would've been all softer, slower tracks y'all would complain there is little to no screaming. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Haha.
I didn't necessarily want Chino to scream on this album. I wanted this to be a Deftones album, which means yes, there will be screaming. But, there will also be everything else we expect from them (dynamics, time changes, weird time signatures, unorthodox song structures, intros/outros/interludes, ballads, electronic elements, etc.), and hopefully some unexpected/new things. To my chagrin, we didn't really get any ballads or much new out of the band on this one. Sergio is stepping up his influence on tracks with every album which I dig. I also dig the additional use of synths, but I wish it had been more than just eerie background chords to beef up the melodies. Would like to hear more actual piano lines out of Frank (I know Chino wrote Anniversary, but I would love to see some more stuff like that) and a return of some of the soundscaping via turntables like we saw on earlier stuff like on Change. I also really miss weird shit like Teenager, Lucky You, Konami Code, and even Pink Cellphone, as they brought a lot of diversity to their albums and kept it interesting. This album very much felt formulaic. None of it is really bad (Deftones are like pizza, even bad pizza is still pretty good) it just felt very samey. Pretty much every song had a heavy part, a soft part, and something thrown in there to mix it up a little. To quote Chino, every song felt like it had achieved "balance." I'd prefer it if the album itself was balanced over the course of it. Some songs are soft, some are heavy, some are both, some are what you'd expect out of the band, and some come out of left-field. Didn't really get that on this one.
I think Urantia, TSOM,and Pompeji were pretty fresh.... Sergio era anyways. Maybe it was the long calm second halves of the latter 2, but Urantia was different for me for some reason. I think it was the lyrics and song writing by Chino. It was a little more direct than usual at least some parts. The album really does have balance. Look at the closeness of the poll here... imo there's no fillers. I cant get into TLID but its still something they seemed to really go for
Every Ohms track are my current favorite tracks.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Oct 17, 2020, 06:13 PM
Quote from: only pieces remain on Oct 17, 2020, 01:40 PM
I find it hilarious that everyone wanted chino to scream on this album. He does on virtually every track sans ohms now everyone is clamoring for slow, sextape type songs with no screaming. If this album would've been all softer, slower tracks y'all would complain there is little to no screaming. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Haha.
I didn't necessarily want Chino to scream on this album. I wanted this to be a Deftones album, which means yes, there will be screaming. But, there will also be everything else we expect from them (dynamics, time changes, weird time signatures, unorthodox song structures, intros/outros/interludes, ballads, electronic elements, etc.), and hopefully some unexpected/new things. To my chagrin, we didn't really get any ballads or much new out of the band on this one. Sergio is stepping up his influence on tracks with every album which I dig. I also dig the additional use of synths, but I wish it had been more than just eerie background chords to beef up the melodies. Would like to hear more actual piano lines out of Frank (I know Chino wrote Anniversary, but I would love to see some more stuff like that) and a return of some of the soundscaping via turntables like we saw on earlier stuff like on Change. I also really miss weird shit like Teenager, Lucky You, Konami Code, and even Pink Cellphone, as they brought a lot of diversity to their albums and kept it interesting. This album very much felt formulaic. None of it is really bad (Deftones are like pizza, even bad pizza is still pretty good) it just felt very samey. Pretty much every song had a heavy part, a soft part, and something thrown in there to mix it up a little. To quote Chino, every song felt like it had achieved "balance." I'd prefer it if the album itself was balanced over the course of it. Some songs are soft, some are heavy, some are both, some are what you'd expect out of the band, and some come out of left-field. Didn't really get that on this one.
I miss the electric/weird tracks ala teenager/lucky you/pink cellphone as well. Since Chino hadn't worked on any of his side projects in a while I was a bit hopeful we'd get something similar on Ohms but alas.
This Record continues to grow on me.
Cannot wait to hear it live. Especially hopeful the play Pompeji and TLID in succession as on the Album. Would be epic!
Damn...This place is death?
Anyone else got the Ohms T-shirt package
and the shirt sucks?
Ohms and Spell are far and away my fave on the record. Ceremony is up there as well.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 18, 2020, 04:55 AM
Damn...This place is death?
Anyone else got the Ohms T-shirt package
and the shirt sucks?
The t-shirt looks cool to me, but it had a weird smell on reception.
The album flow is perfect, nearly a month since it's release and it keeps getting better for me, TLID still hasn't grown on me, so thats the only song I skip
Im not the only one that believes TLID is likely for their fanbase:
"I have no patience for expectation" screams vocalist Chino Moreno toward the end of TLID, a track toward the end of the new Deftones album, Ohms. The line doubles as a charged lyric in a song in which he also screams "Im filled with true hatred" and as a rallying cry for his band, which for years has navigated the perilous line between it's own creative vision and what it's fanbase wants - or, more to the point, "expects". - Rock Cellar Magazine
When i mentioned it, someone here refused to believe it to the point they seemed aggrivated with me about it ;D but then, what else is it about then? Btw, its the only track i still cant listen all the way through still
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 19, 2020, 06:17 PM
Im not the only one that believes TLID is likely for their fanbase:
"I have no patience for expectation" screams vocalist Chino Moreno toward the end of TLID, a track toward the end of the new Deftones album, Ohms. The line doubles as a charged lyric in a song in which he also screams "Im filled with true hatred" and as a rallying cry for his band, which for years has navigated the perilous line between it's own creative vision and what it's fanbase wants - or, more to the point, "expects". - Rock Cellar Magazine
When i mentioned it, someone here refused to believe it to the point they seemed aggrivated with me about it ;D but then, what else is it about then? Btw, its the only track i still cant listen all the way through still
I think I get where you are coming from. However I just can't believe the band is filled up with true hate for its fan base and it's opinions. Not sure they care that much lol
Finally home!
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Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 19, 2020, 11:57 PM
Finally home!
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Nice! Good to see several of you guys finally getting your stuff.
Has anyone tried making mix with Gore & Ohms? I get the feel like like maybe i'd appreciate some of the Gore songs more if they were mixed with the Ohms tracks. Or I'll end up hating Ohms for it haha.
I replaced TLID with WGTB, works for me!
I'm calling on Ceremony being the next single, although it would be such a cool move if they used TSOM. A long time buddy of mine who never was able to get into them was amazed by the creativity of the song.
I'm calling there not being a next single from the album.
Could be, but Abe said there might be.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 20, 2020, 04:45 AM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 19, 2020, 11:57 PM
Finally home!
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Nice! Good to see several of you guys finally getting your stuff.
What is the picture below? I only ordered a copy so i havent seen it all
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 19, 2020, 10:51 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 19, 2020, 06:17 PM
Im not the only one that believes TLID is likely for their fanbase:
"I have no patience for expectation" screams vocalist Chino Moreno toward the end of TLID, a track toward the end of the new Deftones album, Ohms. The line doubles as a charged lyric in a song in which he also screams "Im filled with true hatred" and as a rallying cry for his band, which for years has navigated the perilous line between it's own creative vision and what it's fanbase wants - or, more to the point, "expects". - Rock Cellar Magazine
When i mentioned it, someone here refused to believe it to the point they seemed aggrivated with me about it ;D but then, what else is it about then? Btw, its the only track i still cant listen all the way through still
I think I get where you are coming from. However I just can't believe the band is filled up with true hate for its fan base and it's opinions. Not sure they care that much lol
I'm not taking it literally and I don't think it's meant literally. I think it's just the way he expressed it it don't really matter to me as I said it's all good
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 20, 2020, 03:11 PM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 20, 2020, 04:45 AM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 19, 2020, 11:57 PM
Finally home!
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Nice! Good to see several of you guys finally getting your stuff.
What is the picture below? I only ordered a copy so i havent seen it all
I pre ordered the bundle with magazine, vinyl and shorts.
OHMS OWNS!
Okay we Need a Knockout Round....
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 21, 2020, 03:05 AM
I pre ordered the bundle with magazine, vinyl and shorts.
Did the zine come on its own ? Ordered the vinyl / zine w/shorts, hoodie and 2 x t-shirts but the zine turned up today in an envelope. No vinyl or any of the others yet.
I'm still waiting on the vinyl and zine. I'm sure they'll turn up one day.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 21, 2020, 05:34 AM
OHMS OWNS!
Okay we Need a Knockout Round....
Only thing it would confirm is what everyone's second favorite song is. Spell would win (Dont 100% agree with that but I wouldn't be mad)
Quote from: defsteve on Oct 21, 2020, 04:48 PM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 21, 2020, 03:05 AM
I pre ordered the bundle with magazine, vinyl and shorts.
Did the zine come on its own ? Ordered the vinyl / zine w/shorts, hoodie and 2 x t-shirts but the zine turned up today in an envelope. No vinyl or any of the others yet.
No man, it came all together and I packed the magazine inside the vinyl package carefully.
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 19, 2020, 11:57 PM
Finally home!
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Damn, Im a little jealous.
Unpopular opinion: the lyrics to "This Link Is Dead" are likely NOT some sort of juvenile message from the band to fans regarding fans' expectation of Deftones music.
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Oct 22, 2020, 04:19 PM
Unpopular opinion: the lyrics to "This Link Is Dead" are likely NOT some sort of juvenile message from the band to fans regarding fans' expectation of Deftones music.
Agree. Don't even know how this became a semi popular opinion
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 22, 2020, 02:41 AM
Quote from: defsteve on Oct 21, 2020, 04:48 PM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 21, 2020, 03:05 AM
I pre ordered the bundle with magazine, vinyl and shorts.
Did the zine come on its own ? Ordered the vinyl / zine w/shorts, hoodie and 2 x t-shirts but the zine turned up today in an envelope. No vinyl or any of the others yet.
No man, it came all together and I packed the magazine inside the vinyl package carefully.
What is this magazine? Missed something good did i?
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Oct 22, 2020, 04:19 PM
Unpopular opinion: the lyrics to "This Link Is Dead" are likely NOT some sort of juvenile message from the band to fans regarding fans' expectation of Deftones music.
I'm not into this song myself. I don't think it's horrible per se. My theory about what the lyrics mean is with almost any Chino lyrics. I think it's tongue-in-cheek thos time around and at the same time it's for us to believe what we want it is to believe like usual...and the way he wrote it, I believe it was designed for some to think that it meant that or whatever you want it to be. I think it's really easy for someone to look at the lyrics while listening to it and believe that's what it's about because people do pick them apart like any band and make suggestions and nitpick what they want them to do rather than what they are doing. I mean it happens here every day. With that being said, I'm not one to say what anything is literally about but I could see that one could think the song means that. at the end of the day, who gives a fuck? I'm interested to hear what else it could be about in someone else's opinion though. And don't simply give me the "bad relationship" bullshit please... maybe it's about the system? Maybe it's about the music industry? Anyone? Again it doesn't have to be about anything but what do you think?what do you feel while listening to what he says in this track?
Help me out here please, in the picture above what is that object with the picture of the music equipment with the wires? Is that a magazine or a book of pictures? I have no idea. I usually just buy the music since the Sergio era And don't really collect or go any deeper than that but I am interested to see what I missed here.
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 22, 2020, 11:10 PM
Help me out here please, in the picture above what is that object with the picture of the music equipment with the wires? Is that a magazine or a book of pictures? I have no idea. I usually just buy the music since the Sergio era And don't really collect or go any deeper than that but I am interested to see what I missed here.
It's the zine. Just has a bunch of pics in it. I think most of them have been on Instagram.
Quote from: laurapalmer on Oct 22, 2020, 10:19 PM
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Oct 22, 2020, 04:19 PM
Unpopular opinion: the lyrics to "This Link Is Dead" are likely NOT some sort of juvenile message from the band to fans regarding fans' expectation of Deftones music.
Agree. Don't even know how this became a semi popular opinion
Someone here kept repeating it semi-regularly from the moment the album was released. Kinda weird if you ask me.
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Oct 19, 2020, 11:57 PM
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The production on Ohms is great. Would be cool if Terry Date could've gotten Deftones to record to tape and the Ohms vinyl was released on SuperVinyl by Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab, https://www.mofi.com/Articles.asp?ID=254, and Ohms was also released on Reel-to-reel through The Tape Project: https://tapeproject.com/
Also as much as I love Terry's work it'd be cool if Deftones built their own studio to record/produce/mix/master/engineer their own EP and take the "Recording studio as an instrument" approach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recording_studio_as_an_instrument
I didn't like the song Ohms at first because I was expecting a song to showcase Stephens 9 string. Something heavier or faster The song has grown on me. The delivery on some of the vocals still seem overbearing in parts on the song Ohms and the album overall though. I could still hear the song Ohms or any other future guitar heavy song by Deftones with no screaming and just singing sounding really good. Chino's voice isn't generic sounding like some more recent popular guitar bands that get played on the same radio stations that Deftones do.
In that last interview posted Chino referred to their music as having lush parts. Wish there had been a song on the new album that was also just "Lush" all the way through, no heavy guitars, with Chino just singing the whole song to showcase his singing voice. Something more on the Alternative/Shoegazy/Post Rock/Psychedelic side of the band rather than the Metal side of the band. Like if Frank laid down a synth line, some turntable sounds with heavy use of effects on loop, and Abe a drum beat. Then Chino created a vocal melody over that then Stef and Sergio came in with their parts to add after Chino had his vocals done.
Still a good album. I look forward to hear the band growing and evolving though on any new music they release in the future and not reinvent themselves as Chino also put it in the last interview posted.
The section of Ceremony where Chino sings "with one kiss, one caress" to me it sounds very similar to the demo of Combat. Go back and listen and tell me it doesn't sound like it a little bit. The vocal effect and delivery at least...
edit: about the 3:20 mark on the Combat demo... idk, every time I listen to that part on Ceremony it reminds me of it.
Good find dude.
Hate to be a bitch but it kinda bothers me this thread is so Quiet! Our Band has given a gift and best part is "One size fits All"
Brutal Emotive Riffs and Vocals.
Bangers and Ballads combined over just 46 Fucking Minutes of life? Guess I'm just excited still!
This place is death...
I know you
feel the same...
BRILLIANT
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 25, 2020, 03:38 AM
Good find dude.
Hate to be a bitch but it kinda bothers me this thread is so Quiet! Our Band has given a gift and best part is "One size fits All"
Brutal Emotive Riffs and Vocals.
Bangers and Ballads combined over just 46 Fucking Minutes of life? Guess I'm just excited still!
I'm definitely still jamming on the album! I try not to overplay it because this way I keep getting excited every time I put it on after a short break in between. Still discovering little things that I love about the album. Headless has definitely grown to be up there with my favourites - it takes me right back to the mood of the S/T. So eerie and soothing at the same time.
Gracias Amigo!!! This guy gets it...
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 25, 2020, 03:38 AM
Good find dude.
Hate to be a bitch but it kinda bothers me this thread is so Quiet! Our Band has given a gift and best part is "One size fits All"
Brutal Emotive Riffs and Vocals.
Bangers and Ballads combined over just 46 Fucking Minutes of life? Guess I'm just excited still!
I'm still listening everyday! I can't believe it's been a month. now that it's had time to settle and marinate though it still is good as I thought it was when I first heard it. my hype what's fucking through the roof for this album and I absolutely delivered. Genesis is the only track I skip.
on spotify and my music player, everytime a new deaf tones album drops I make a new top 25 list. It's always difficult reevaluate and figure out which tracks are my top 25 favorites after an album drops, but I usually get there. but with Ohms I still don't even know where to begin in terms of my top 25 because this album is just so solid front to back. Headless and Urantia are guaranteed to be on there somewhere, but I could also see spell, radiant City and Error on there as well. I'm not at my computer so I can't see my list, but I'm thinking that five songs from an album would be the most. for the sake of cohesiveness prosperity in terms of sharing it with people I'll probably only put two tracks on there. It just feels criminal though can only have two songs from this album on a top 25 list. I've been a fan for 23 years and Ohms really is that good.
also, I've been posting about this album on my personal Facebook page for months now in anticipation for it. it kind of paid off. I had a friend that I hadn't talked to in over a year, that also really isn't into Deftones, bring me a signed copy. I've had a really rough couple years and he just wanted to do something nice for me and he brought it by a couple weeks ago.I'm going to frame that motherfuker LOL
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Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 25, 2020, 03:38 AM
Good find dude.
Hate to be a bitch but it kinda bothers me this thread is so Quiet! Our Band has given a gift and best part is "One size fits All"
Brutal Emotive Riffs and Vocals.
Bangers and Ballads combined over just 46 Fucking Minutes of life? Guess I'm just excited still!
I'm definitely still jamming on the album! I try not to overplay it because this way I keep getting excited every time I put it on after a short break in between.
Exactly the same here. I played way too much first 2 weeks.
Ceremony is an all-timer.
Clear vinyl, zine and t-shirt have finally shipped to me!
Finally received vinyl and zine, well, two zines for some reason. Still listening to Ohms everyday and not getting tired of it at all. Nothing skippable for me on it either!
It's a brilliant album and one that will stand the test if time and be referred to fondly. It's certainly helped alleviate some of the COVID weirdness for me.
I love the snare and tom tones on Pompeji.
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Quote from: punkflop01 on Oct 25, 2020, 04:42 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 25, 2020, 03:38 AM
Good find dude.
Hate to be a bitch but it kinda bothers me this thread is so Quiet! Our Band has given a gift and best part is "One size fits All"
Brutal Emotive Riffs and Vocals.
Bangers and Ballads combined over just 46 Fucking Minutes of life? Guess I'm just excited still!
I'm definitely still jamming on the album! I try not to overplay it because this way I keep getting excited every time I put it on after a short break in between.
Exactly the same here. I played way too much first 2 weeks.
I've tried not to get burntout from the album but the songs have been in my head since day 1, I can't help but sneak in at least one song per day! ;D
Been watching the forum but had not commented on here in a long time.
I think this is a great album. First few listens I thought it was quite straightforward for them but the textures are revealing more each listen. This album is tight with band pushing in the same direction much more than previous albums. But comparing it to previous albums is a disservice to Ohms. Frank is as present as Stef and Abe over previous albums like S/T and KNY where he coloured in the margins. Sergio's bass playing shows technical prowess but is playing like a fully fledged equal member, instead of compensation like Gore. The hooks are great and Chino's performance is the icing on the cake. He is a skilled vocal song writer now. They came to this album with something to prove but not making a 'best of' type album . They had something to prove to themselves. It's funny that Chino talked about therapy and a feeling of rebirth before the album release. Breakthrough can make you feel that the stuck machine of arrested development has restarted and just feeling is freed. You look your problems in the eye, and feel what you feels. You feel your feet on the ground and get that grit back. You can play from the point and create whatever feels right. That's what I get from this album, tight present rhythm, a solid footing to work from and taking the good with bad.
I have opinions on why I love each song and how it took a lot of listens to figure out the sweet spot where these 6 dudes connect (Terry included) but this is the main message I get from the album.
Already mostly moved on from Ohms. Still my favorite band but the last two have been pretty disappointing (for different reasons). I've seen them go through peaks and valleys before though and I'm cautiously optimistic that they can still throw out another gem before calling it a career.
I think I like Gore better than Ohms, mostly because I like Chino's playing more than Steph's generally. With that said, all the songs here kick ass with the possible exception of Pompeji which I don't think I need hear ever again. I think they botched that song.
Pompeji's one of the best songs on here.
The verses are great but the prechorus/chorus is just... bad.
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 25, 2020, 12:00 PM
Ceremony is an all-timer.
yesss ! I keep waking up with this song playing in my head - and not even in that annoying way !
I wonder if Ceremony chorus will ever not be stuck in my head
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 25, 2020, 12:00 PM
Ceremony is an all-timer.
Certified banger. ✅
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Quote from: punkflop01 on Oct 25, 2020, 04:42 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 25, 2020, 03:38 AM
Good find dude.
Hate to be a bitch but it kinda bothers me this thread is so Quiet! Our Band has given a gift and best part is "One size fits All"
Brutal Emotive Riffs and Vocals.
Bangers and Ballads combined over just 46 Fucking Minutes of life? Guess I'm just excited still!
I'm definitely still jamming on the album! I try not to overplay it because this way I keep getting excited every time I put it on after a short break in between.
Exactly the same here. I played way too much first 2 weeks.
I've tried not to get burntout from the album but the songs have been in my head since day 1, I can't help but sneak in at least one song per day! ;D
Me too. To be completely honest, I still do this with songs from Adrenaline, even (hello One weak). Some songs I just got to listen to a few times during the week. From all their discography, pretty much. And since Ohms is their most recent work, it couldnt be any different.
Maryanne Hobbs is basically playing something from this album every week on 6music.
Still love the album. I'm finding it more original as I become familiar with it. Also starting to focus on stuff I never heard before in certain tracks.
Pompeji is my current favourite to be honest.
https://youtu.be/HIcsb3e1wN0 (https://youtu.be/HIcsb3e1wN0)
It's one month later, and I still love the album. Ceremony is still my top track, but the rest of the album isn't far behind.
Ceremony, Urantia, and Error is the best stretch on the album.
Quote from: Draken on Oct 17, 2020, 05:29 PM
100% true
Deftones give 0 fucks what any of us want to hear, that's why they're still relevant and enjoy what they do.
Exactly. That's what makes them great.
I'm starting to warm up to the "Jesus Christ" lyrics from Pompeji. I'm liking the song more now than I did before.
Unless it's a band like Marilyn Manson or a band of that nature, I'm not a big fan of those types of lyrics. I'm not the most religious guy in the world, but knocking religion isn't really my thing. I'd really like some context as to what the song is actually about. On that radio interview they did a few weeks back, that's one of the songs that didn't get an explanation.
YOU'RE ON YOUR OWNNNNNNNN.
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 28, 2020, 03:01 AM
YOU'RE ON YOUR OWNNNNNNNN.
TLID is way underrated, pure unadulterated brutal Deftones.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 28, 2020, 03:01 AM
YOU'RE ON YOUR OWNNNNNNNN.
TLID is way underrated, pure unadulterated brutal Deftones.
Yes ! That last minute is just so damn powerful. Gives me goosebumps every time the way they build that up.
Quote from: punkflop01 on Oct 28, 2020, 03:47 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Oct 28, 2020, 03:45 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 28, 2020, 03:01 AM
YOU'RE ON YOUR OWNNNNNNNN.
TLID is way underrated, pure unadulterated brutal Deftones.
Yes ! That last minute is just so damn powerful. Gives me goosebumps every time the way they build that up.
The rage to punch someone in the Face!
Captured so elegantly... passion to the max by the entire Band.
Urantia is the best song. Should be the next single if they do another. It deserves a real video. And man WHAT AN EARWORM OF A CHORUS.
I like that beautiful riff Stephan pulls out in the second half of the song ''Error'' just stunning how the music rises so atmospheric, one of their best riffs, and I've been a fan for over a decade, never heard them sound quite like that before. Check it out it starts at like 2:49 into that song ''error'', its just awesome keep returning to it. and great decision to make chinos vocals more sort of reverbed in that part the combination is just so effective. great job from Terry Date.
idk why but that part makes me feel a type of way, it sounds so emotive yet warm too, sad but hopeful. unexplainable.
Quote from: xtalaphextwin on Oct 28, 2020, 05:22 PM
I like that beautiful riff Stephan pulls out in the second half of the song ''Error'' just stunning how the music rises so atmospheric, one of their best riffs, and I've been a fan for over a decade, never heard them sound quite like that before. Check it out it starts at like 2:49 into that song ''error'', its just awesome keep returning to it. and great decision to make chinos vocals more sort of reverbed in that part the combination is just so effective. great job from Terry Date.
idk why but that part makes me feel a type of way, it sounds so emotive yet warm too, sad but hopeful. unexplainable.
That's definitely may favorite part of the album and wish they had done more dreamy leads like that. It's very KNY (the latter half of the song feels a lot like Entombed, my favorite track off there), which is my favorite album since WP. Only problem is that I actually feel like it could have been even bigger. The second time they do it, they should've played a little with the line on the second run through, adding in some flourishes or even turning it into something approaching a solo to really mix it up. Could've been epic. But that's my problem with this album. Feels a lot like Tool's Fear Inoculum album, where it's a distillation of their sound, everything feels pretty safe and by the numbers. I kept waiting for a lot of these songs (and FI) to just take off at some point and blow me out of the water, but it never happens.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Oct 28, 2020, 05:21 PM
Urantia is the best song. Should be the next single if they do another. It deserves a real video. And man WHAT AN EARWORM OF A CHORUS.
The start of Urantia and Bay Area Metal parts are begging for double bass from Abe though. Chino said in a recent interview when have they ever done that, but all the more reason to do that and expand their sound. Double bass could have been added in just the heavy guitar parts and made the song that much more heavier and brutal. I mean there was a point they never did a solo then they had Jerry Cantrell play a solo. There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Oct 28, 2020, 06:02 PM
But that's my problem with this album. where it's a distillation of their sound, everything feels pretty safe and by the numbers. I kept waiting for a lot of these songs (and FI) to just take off at some point and blow me out of the water, but it never happens.
Agree 100%. Wish Abe expanded his drum kit. Not change his playing style. Just a bigger palette of sounds to hear. Abe is one of the best drummers in Rock/Metal over the last 40+ years. He's like John Bonham. You know it's Abe when you hear him. I love the band, but I'd really love to hear them keep growing sonically too. Like if Chino played a tenor guitar or soprano guitar or Sergio played a 6 string piccolo bass. Just something new and different to expand their sound. Frank on a ROLI Seaboard. Seems like the only one continually evolving musically is Stephen trying new extended range guitars.
Or what of they took cue from their past in other ways like having a song with a guest vocalist and also having someone play a solo on the same song?
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Oct 28, 2020, 05:21 PM
Urantia is the best song. Should be the next single if they do another. It deserves a real video. And man WHAT AN EARWORM OF A CHORUS.
As much as I want TSOM to be the next single I know it's likely to be Urantia, if there is another one. I love that song, honestly thought it was going to be the first single when I heard the snippet that Abe teased us with.
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Quote from: xtalaphextwin on Oct 28, 2020, 05:22 PM
I like that beautiful riff Stephan pulls out in the second half of the song ''Error'' just stunning how the music rises so atmospheric, one of their best riffs, and I've been a fan for over a decade, never heard them sound quite like that before. Check it out it starts at like 2:49 into that song ''error'', its just awesome keep returning to it. and great decision to make chinos vocals more sort of reverbed in that part the combination is just so effective. great job from Terry Date.
idk why but that part makes me feel a type of way, it sounds so emotive yet warm too, sad but hopeful. unexplainable.
That's definitely may favorite part of the album and wish they had done more dreamy leads like that. It's very KNY (the latter half of the song feels a lot like Entombed, my favorite track off there), which is my favorite album since WP. Only problem is that I actually feel like it could have been even bigger. The second time they do it, they should've played a little with the line on the second run through, adding in some flourishes or even turning it into something approaching a solo to really mix it up. Could've been epic. But that's my problem with this album. Feels a lot like Tool's Fear Inoculum album, where it's a distillation of their sound, everything feels pretty safe and by the numbers. I kept waiting for a lot of these songs (and FI) to just take off at some point and blow me out of the water, but it never happens.
That's pretty interesting, I felt Deftones really expanded on this album, I really was entertained by it mostly. I felt that the Tool album lacked dynamics in sound, if you go back and listen to Tool's last album before the new one (10,000 Days) the dynamics on that one are crazy, listen to a song like Right In Two, or The pot, so many different sounds and shifts in dynamics in just one song, FI felt like one long boring song to me. Was super disappointed by the Tool album.
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Oct 28, 2020, 10:41 PM
There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.
frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had guest vocalists before white pony (max cavalera and annalyn cunningham)
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Oct 28, 2020, 10:41 PM
There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.
frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had a guest vocalist before white pony (mx/atf)
I wouldn't call what Abe's wife did as a "guest vocalist", but yeah ATF had Max Cavalera on Headup.
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Quote from: from_musings on Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Oct 28, 2020, 10:41 PM
There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.
frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had a guest vocalist before white pony (mx/atf)
I wouldn't call what Abe's wife did as a "guest vocalist", but yeah ATF had Max Cavalera on Headup.
she wasn't a band member that's fore sure
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Oct 28, 2020, 10:41 PM
There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.
frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had guest vocalists before white pony (max cavalera and annalyn cunningham)
Right about Max. But my point exactly about Frank. Frank wasn't a member when the band first started out when they initially played live in the club days. They expanded their sound by adding Frank. There's still room for the band to grow. If they wanted to. And without completely changing who they are. Like on the next album I wouldn't want Abe to play double bass on every song all throughout every song, Chino do Death Metal or Black type vocals, Sergio play slap bass, Stef add pinch harmonics at the end of every riff, etc.
Quote from: xtalaphextwin on Oct 28, 2020, 10:53 PMThat's pretty interesting, I felt Deftones really expanded on this album, I really was entertained by it mostly. I felt that the Tool album lacked dynamics in sound, if you go back and listen to Tool's last album before the new one (10,000 Days) the dynamics on that one are crazy, listen to a song like Right In Two, or The pot, so many different sounds and shifts in dynamics in just one song, FI felt like one long boring song to me. Was super disappointed by the Tool album.
Specifically how do you think Deftones expanded on this album compared to other albums? Frank being more involved? Stefs 9 string?
I actually really liked the last new Tool album and didn't think it sounded boring at all!
Had to give the album a break.. hate to say it but I was loosing interest. Been having some personal issues and didn't want to associate this album with a bad time for me personally. Gave it a 3 week break and just listened to it again today.
I absolutely love the first 5 songs on this record. Was nice to get some chills again from them tonight. Second half is ok but still hasn't blown me away .
Error is my jam. Chino is gorgeous on it.
Quote from: E-Money on Oct 30, 2020, 12:57 AM
Been having some personal issues and didn’t want to associate this album with a bad time for me personally.
Hope things get better as soon as possible! I understand the feeling of trying to avoid associating something special to a bad phase or whatever.
Funny history (???), I used to date this girl back in 2011 and she was big on Deftones too. The first time we had sex she asked me to leave them playing on the background and I said no. Til this day she has no clue why.
The thing is, as much as their songs are so fitting for sex, no way I'd use them as a background for it, with any girl. I also dont want to associate their songs with some drama bulshit or bad breakup.
Its weird, I know, but I love music THAT much. Sex is great, but I'd reather put some random crap I dont really pay attention to or care about.
Yeah, yeah, too much information, sorry... lol
I can imagine the Jesus Christ bit of Pompeji on a song from Mellon Collie or something. It's just weirdly Pumpkins and cool.
Only just noticed those intense breathing noises that Chino makes at the end of This Link is Dead. I find something new to love about this album every time I return to it!
This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones
Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.
That's so awesome to hear the demo! Thanks!
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 04, 2020, 08:18 PM
This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones
Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.
It would be great to hear more stuff like that, great episode 8)
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 04, 2020, 08:18 PM
This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones
Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.
oh man thank you so much for this! Was a real treat. Would love to hear the band break down each song from the new album like this !
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 04, 2020, 08:18 PM
This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones
Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.
Amazing stuff, thanks a lot!!
it's been a while since chino's been so eloquent. hardly any youknow or youknowwhatimeans
That was so cool!
We didn't get to hear Genesis live at a normal non-social-distanced concert. We were robbed. Hearing that groove with a good crowd would have been wild.
That breakdown of the inception of Ohms was great. Can anyone identify the effect responsible for Stef's guitar tone? Is it an octave fuzz or just an octaver?
I'm not sure, but Ohms is such an incredible song. I had some growing pains with it at first, but my god. Utter perfection.
God damn it Defthony Hateano! How dare you :-| (5:50)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhEJZveZZr4&t=350 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhEJZveZZr4&t=350)
No one fucking cares.
I just can't stand his fake high pitched laugh. It is so forced. Like come on.
stop posting this dweeb
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 04, 2020, 08:18 PM
This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones
Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.
That was absolutely wonderful, I could listen to literal hours of that. Hearing the isolated tracks was so cool, especially Frank's and how the effects on the vocals build up etc
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 06, 2020, 02:43 PM
That breakdown of the inception of Ohms was great. Can anyone identify the effect responsible for Stef's guitar tone? Is it an octave fuzz or just an octaver?
I'm not sure about that, but I'm almost certain there's also a subtle harmonizer playing thirds there, along with the also very subtle -1 octave
We need an auto-ban of anyone who even mentions that twats name.
That songexploder podcast was great. Very cool how in depth they got with the creation of Ohms.
I'm shocked Abe didn't use a click track on this album.
This is the first time I've ever heard Chino acknowledge the abuse he's done to his voice over the years.
I kinda liked the original slower Ohms riff...
I wish they would do this kind of stuff more often. Kudos to the podcast for thinking of something new. At least it's better than reading Chino's response as to why Eros isn't released yet. Lol.
Still got Ohms on heavy rotation, still love it, still the only weak track for me is TLID, I don't think it will ever sink in with me, apart from that it's a flawless album.
Quote from: Gaz on Nov 09, 2020, 01:01 PM
Still got Ohms on heavy rotation, still love it, still the only weak track for me is TLID, I don't think it will ever sink in with me, apart from that it's a flawless album.
Same, it just does nothing for me. The rest of the album is still really dope.
I love the whole record, but i still dont get the hype for "the spell of mathematics"...i mean great song but its my least fav. just my useless opinion tho, feel like sharing it.
Quote from: DenakDW on Nov 10, 2020, 02:54 AM
I love the whole record, but i still dont get the hype for "the spell of mathematics"...i mean great song but its my least fav. just my useless opinion tho, feel like sharing it.
"Least fav" like #10???
Seems everybody pretty much loves the Album. However it's interesting how polarizing both TLID and TSOM are to this board. IMO...both are solid tracks. I doubt I will get much support here but.
I think This Link is Dead is far better than TSOM.
Yeah I tend to agree. Actually ranking all 10 would be quite difficult but I'm fairly certain TLID and TSOM are both somewhere in the 6-10 range.
TSOM is easily a top 3 track for me, but there is something really awkward about the way it kicks in. I definitely would have like some kind of intro or better transition into the song proper.
Y'all mad, TSOM is up there. I also like the way it just kicks in. I feel like Rosemary-type intros are overdone.
TSOM is easily one of the best songs!
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2020, 04:14 PM
Y'all mad, TSOM is up there. I also like the way it just kicks in. I feel like Rosemary-type intros are overdone.
True, but I would have killed for a Hearts redux type intro
TSOM Is one of their greatest tracks imo. Such a unique guitar sound to me. Great misical composition and lyrically as well... also I've never tried to make myself like something or discover something that I can't discover where others can until they wrote this link is dead. I just don't get the hype but it's music and that's how it goes
when I first heard the clean part with the 'snaps' my soul literally left my body
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2020, 04:14 PM
Y'all mad, TSOM is up there. I also like the way it just kicks in. I feel like Rosemary-type intros are overdone.
Agreed
I too like the way the song just kicks in
I love that they kept Abe's sticks in the beginning. Genesis too. At the end of Ceremony going into Urantia you get that live feeling also like Abe's sticks give u because there's some very subtle but clear clicking sounds like Terry hitting switches or something or someone doing something with an instrument. Listen for it if u missed it. The record has a bunch of little sounds and ideas that give it more of a live feeling than any of their previous records IMO.... adding to the "finger snaps"
Going into something like my 4th listen, first time since the release week. Genesis sounds pretty great tbh
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 15, 2020, 08:11 PM
Going into something like my 4th listen, first time since the release week. Genesis sounds pretty great tbh
Keep saying the same thing . It's grown on me so much. Pompeji has as Well. Chinos just sounds amazing on Genesis.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 15, 2020, 08:11 PM
Going into something like my 4th listen, first time since the release week. Genesis sounds pretty great tbh
Yes! Genesis went from one of my least favourites to a song I look forward to every time I hit play. It's got such a full and heavy sound - love it!
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Nov 11, 2020, 02:09 AM
I doubt I will get much support here but.
I think This Link is Dead is far better than TSOM.
Not from me, no... lol
In all seriousness tho, I respect your opinion.
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 14, 2020, 05:34 PM
Terry hitting switches or something or someone doing something with an instrument. Listen for it if u missed it. The record has a bunch of little sounds and ideas that give it more of a live feeling than any of their previous records IMO....
Not to discredit Terry whom I love. I think a lot of the overall great "sound"of Ohms should also go Howie Weinberg who mastered Ohms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Weinberg
Personally I think it'd be cool of Deftones got Morten Lindberg to engineer a Deftones album and make their next album an Immersive Audio Album.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 15, 2020, 08:11 PM
Going into something like my 4th listen, first time since the release week. Genesis sounds pretty great tbh
Keep saying the same thing . It's grown on me so much. Pompeji has as Well. Chinos just sounds amazing on Genesis.
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Genesis is like surfing on awesome
Still listening off and on with breaks in between. I feel like this album embodies the best parts of their last 3 albums into one.
Said this before, but Genesis is a banger and I really hope they open sets with it on tours. I'd love them to do Genesis, Korea, My Own Summer, Poltergeist as the front 4 songs. BANGERS
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 16, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 14, 2020, 05:34 PM
Terry hitting switches or something or someone doing something with an instrument. Listen for it if u missed it. The record has a bunch of little sounds and ideas that give it more of a live feeling than any of their previous records IMO....
Not to discredit Terry whom I love. I think a lot of the overall great "sound"of Ohms should also go Howie Weinberg who mastered Ohms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Weinberg
Personally I think it'd be cool of Deftones got Morten Lindberg to engineer a Deftones album and make their next album an Immersive Audio Album.
Im familiar. Hes worked with absolutely everyone including the Beasties. What makes him special to you?
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 18, 2020, 03:25 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 16, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 14, 2020, 05:34 PM
Terry hitting switches or something or someone doing something with an instrument. Listen for it if u missed it. The record has a bunch of little sounds and ideas that give it more of a live feeling than any of their previous records IMO....
Not to discredit Terry whom I love. I think a lot of the overall great "sound"of Ohms should also go Howie Weinberg who mastered Ohms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Weinberg
Personally I think it'd be cool of Deftones got Morten Lindberg to engineer a Deftones album and make their next album an Immersive Audio Album.
Im familiar. Hes worked with absolutely everyone including the Beasties. What makes him special to you?
I read an interview with Butch Vig talking about producing Nirvana's Nevermind. Butch talked about how Howie played a big part in the great sound of Nevermind.
btw maybe a Team Sleep album would be better suited for an Immersive Audio Album. In Dolby Atmos would be so cool.
https://www.dolby.com/technologies/dolby-atmos/
https://professional.dolby.com/content-creation/dolby-atmos/
Morten Lindberg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morten_Lindberg_(sound_engineer)
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 18, 2020, 06:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 18, 2020, 03:25 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 16, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 14, 2020, 05:34 PM
Terry hitting switches or something or someone doing something with an instrument. Listen for it if u missed it. The record has a bunch of little sounds and ideas that give it more of a live feeling than any of their previous records IMO....
Not to discredit Terry whom I love. I think a lot of the overall great "sound"of Ohms should also go Howie Weinberg who mastered Ohms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Weinberg
Personally I think it'd be cool of Deftones got Morten Lindberg to engineer a Deftones album and make their next album an Immersive Audio Album.
Im familiar. Hes worked with absolutely everyone including the Beasties. What makes him special to you?
I read an interview with Butch Vig talking about producing Nirvana's Nevermind. Butch talked about how Howie played a big part in the great sound of Nevermind.
btw maybe a Team Sleep album would be better suited for an Immersive Audio Album. In Dolby Atmos would be so cool.
https://www.dolby.com/technologies/dolby-atmos/
https://professional.dolby.com/content-creation/dolby-atmos/
Morten Lindberg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morten_Lindberg_(sound_engineer)
This is very interesting. Would probably be incredible. I wonder though, lately anyways, if the whole band is still very interested in making anymore records. I think its the age of 50 that gets in my head when i think of them making any more Deftones records . Btw I am totally confident in them but are THEY still interested enough? Plus Chino keeps talking about how difficult it is with all of them living completely away from each other across the country. And then if this Covid thing sticks around like a lot of people suspect, the fact that they won't be able to tour could also lean more towards them not wanting to make any more music. I can't imagine them writing any more material if they can't play it live for us which is who they are and what we all want. But yeah maybe like something you're talking about here would be something they could toy around with as something new and experimental for them. Would be great wouldn't it?
Currently obsessed with Radiant City. That song grooves so hard. Didn't initially dig what Abe was doing on the chorus but I really like it now, especially with the hi-hat placements.
It's one of the songs that benefits from no click as well. The way it pulls back tempo slightly going back into the main riff/verse is perfect.
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 18, 2020, 08:58 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 18, 2020, 06:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 18, 2020, 03:25 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 16, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 14, 2020, 05:34 PM
Terry hitting switches or something or someone doing something with an instrument. Listen for it if u missed it. The record has a bunch of little sounds and ideas that give it more of a live feeling than any of their previous records IMO....
Not to discredit Terry whom I love. I think a lot of the overall great "sound"of Ohms should also go Howie Weinberg who mastered Ohms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Weinberg
Personally I think it'd be cool of Deftones got Morten Lindberg to engineer a Deftones album and make their next album an Immersive Audio Album.
Im familiar. Hes worked with absolutely everyone including the Beasties. What makes him special to you?
I read an interview with Butch Vig talking about producing Nirvana's Nevermind. Butch talked about how Howie played a big part in the great sound of Nevermind.
btw maybe a Team Sleep album would be better suited for an Immersive Audio Album. In Dolby Atmos would be so cool.
https://www.dolby.com/technologies/dolby-atmos/
https://professional.dolby.com/content-creation/dolby-atmos/
Morten Lindberg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morten_Lindberg_(sound_engineer)
This is very interesting. Would probably be incredible. I wonder though, lately anyways, if the whole band is still very interested in making anymore records. I think its the age of 50 that gets in my head when i think of them making any more Deftones records . Btw I am totally confident in them but are THEY still interested enough? Plus Chino keeps talking about how difficult it is with all of them living completely away from each other across the country. And then if this Covid thing sticks around like a lot of people suspect, the fact that they won't be able to tour could also lean more towards them not wanting to make any more music. I can't imagine them writing any more material if they can't play it live for us which is who they are and what we all want. But yeah maybe like something you're talking about here would be something they could toy around with as something new and experimental for them. Would be great wouldn't it?
A Deftones Immerisve Audio album mixed in Dolby Atmos would be awesome!! Like if they expanded with more ambience, textures, and dynamics.
Everyone in Deftones will probably always be passionate to make music together and also play live together as the Deftones. Even if some of the band thinks recording music with another band member in a studio is a pain. They'll also probably always be driven by a business sense to stay together in the long run to make money using deftones as a brand name - like licensing the deftones name to beer, Dia de Los Deftones, etc. - in addition to being a band that records new music, releases that music, and plays that new music and their older music live.
There are already 2 Covid vaccines: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/11/16/moderna-pfizer-covid-vaccine-heres-what-we-know-them/6308571002/.
And apparently a good COVID treatment also: https://www.lilly.com/disease-areas/covid19.
So Deftones if you are reading this: make an Immerisve Audio album mixed in Dolby Atmos!
And fuck COVID!
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 18, 2020, 09:52 PM
Currently obsessed with Radiant City. That song grooves so hard. Didn't initially dig what Abe was doing on the chorus but I really like it now, especially with the hi-hat placements.
It's one of the songs that benefits from no click as well. The way it pulls back tempo slightly going back into the main riff/verse is perfect.
I think the same exact thing each time I listen to it!!!!
Also took a while to grow on me. Chino sounds great at the end.
I almost played the album into the ground first week after it dropped but I haven't listened to it in like a month. Just letting it recharge. I'm so excited to go back to it one of these days ;D
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 18, 2020, 08:58 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 18, 2020, 06:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 18, 2020, 03:25 PM
Quote from: Sal_Ameigh on Nov 16, 2020, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Nov 14, 2020, 05:34 PM
Terry hitting switches or something or someone doing something with an instrument. Listen for it if u missed it. The record has a bunch of little sounds and ideas that give it more of a live feeling than any of their previous records IMO....
Not to discredit Terry whom I love. I think a lot of the overall great "sound"of Ohms should also go Howie Weinberg who mastered Ohms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Weinberg
Personally I think it'd be cool of Deftones got Morten Lindberg to engineer a Deftones album and make their next album an Immersive Audio Album.
Im familiar. Hes worked with absolutely everyone including the Beasties. What makes him special to you?
I read an interview with Butch Vig talking about producing Nirvana's Nevermind. Butch talked about how Howie played a big part in the great sound of Nevermind.
btw maybe a Team Sleep album would be better suited for an Immersive Audio Album. In Dolby Atmos would be so cool.
https://www.dolby.com/technologies/dolby-atmos/
https://professional.dolby.com/content-creation/dolby-atmos/
Morten Lindberg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morten_Lindberg_(sound_engineer)
This is very interesting. Would probably be incredible. But yeah maybe like something you're talking about here would be something they could toy around with as something new and experimental for them. Would be great wouldn't it?
On a somewhat related note I just read TOOL used a very Dolby Atmos-esque 3D surround sound system for their latest live shows:
https://www.lsionline.com/timax-3d-immersive-audio-for-tool-tour
https://outline.it/2020/04/02/outlines-newton-processors-at-the-heart-of-tools-fear-inoculum-world-tour/
Would be cool if Deftones used a the same sound system as TOOL for playing live.
TOOL also is a band that would sound cool making an Immersive Sound Audio album mixed in Dolby Atmos.
Revolver Magazine have placed Ohms as their album of the year.
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/25-best-albums-2020#1-deftones-ohms
Yeah it's a great album but not AOTY lol
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 25, 2020, 06:50 PM
Revolver Magazine have placed Ohms as their album of the year.
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/25-best-albums-2020#1-deftones-ohms
Revolver absolutely loves Deftones, as do all of us here. Good for the guys!
Ohms is #7 on Consequence of Sound's Top 50 albums of 2020:
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/12/top-50-albums-of-2020/6/
Album of the year in Metal Hammer. Didn't expect that - I believe I'm right in saying it's the first time they've come top in Metal Hammer's end of year list.
https://www.loudersound.com/news/and-the-best-metal-album-of-2020-is-deftones-ohms
Just realized yesterday that one of the most charming aspects of how awesome this album is, is that at no point in any of the lyrics does Chino use the titles of the songs as a lyrics in that song. The closest he comes is "The Spell of Mathematics" but that's just a single word from the title.
There's just something about not saying the title of the song in the lyrics that really pleases me and every song on this album is an example of that. Bonus!
Agreed. I hate when bands do this. I realize they end up just naming a track whenever the most repeated/popular phrase is on the particular song but it's just lazy as hell.
Quote from: Hesperian Death-Horse! on Dec 12, 2020, 09:39 PM
Just realized yesterday that one of the most charming aspects of how awesome this album is, is that at no point in any of the lyrics does Chino use the titles of the songs as a lyrics in that song. The closest he comes is "The Spell of Mathematics" but that's just a single word from the title.
There's just something about not saying the title of the song in the lyrics that really pleases me and every song on this album is an example of that. Bonus!
Almost all of their songs are randomly named. I would say almost all of their titles are not in the lyrics. There are some, but not for the most part. Feels "on purpose" almost. Great fucking record
This is a hallmark of most Deftones song titles. As far as why it's not done typically, it's for marketing reasons - easier to find and purchase a song when a few key lyrics are also the title. Most times when Deftones have done this, the song was a single (Change, Beware, Hole in the Earth, Bored, etc.). But then there are rule breakers (like Digital Bath, Passenger, Be Quiet and Drive, My Own Summer, etc.)
Quote from: mandalay on Dec 14, 2020, 10:34 AM
This is a hallmark of most Deftones song titles. As far as why it's not done typically, it's for marketing reasons - easier to find and purchase a song when a few key lyrics are also the title. Most times when Deftones have done this, the song was a single (Change, Beware, Hole in the Earth, Bored, etc.). But then there are rule breakers (like Digital Bath, Passenger, Be Quiet and Drive, My Own Summer, etc.)
Technically Passenger and My Own Summer are in the lyrics of those songs, but I know what you're saying.
They have over 100 songs. And im sure there is no science behind it. They dont dig deep when naming songs, sorry.
I like their song names. It can be cringey when some bands have the title in the chorus, am glad Deftones don't do that, Passenger being the exception.
and Bored, Around the Fur, Headup, Change, Hole in the Earth, Rapture, Beware, Prayers/Triangles... yea i'm glad Deftones don't do that.
damn ok you got me. I completely forgot about Rapture lol
doesn't he whisper hexagram at the end as well
Quote from: Draken on Dec 19, 2020, 03:11 AM
and Bored, Around the Fur, Headup, Change, Hole in the Earth, Rapture, Beware, Prayers/Triangles... yea i'm glad Deftones don't do that.
Again, they have over 100 songs. I dont think theres anything going on here. I do think you all r looking way too deep into it digging up lyrics to prove a dumb point ::)
That wasn't a nice thing or a purposeful thing to say (what i said)..... sorry. But, i don't think they do anything intentional as far as song titles or album titles. They r good at being cool and nonchalant. That though, ..............may be intentional
Also, i have heard Chino say he feels things, tastes things,smells things, sees things when he hears sounds or words. Could be a thing here idk
I love how much Chino abstracts his lyrics. Direct lyrics with no room for interpretation are cringe.
KING KONG GET SOME
SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Dec 20, 2020, 08:45 AM
Direct lyrics with no room for interpretation are cringe.
ehh i don't think so. good songs are good even if the lyrics are straight forward. not a problem for me whatsoever, i love tons of straight forward lyrics. Chino just usually does things different, but that style is kinda rare(and makes him unique, along with his voice and range). some of his stuff is so weird it's like the odd shit you think right before you fall alseep, or while dreaming. then he likes to do metaphors and imagery. but sometimes throws straight forward stuff in there too
Quote from: Visionz on Dec 20, 2020, 01:21 AM
That wasn't a nice thing or a purposeful thing to say (what i said)..... sorry. But, i don't think they do anything intentional as far as song titles or album titles. They r good at being cool and nonchalant. That though, ..............may be intentional
Also, i have heard Chino say he feels things, tastes things,smells things, sees things when he hears sounds or words. Could be a thing here idk
I've never seen the quote of him talking about that but what he is describing is called "synesthesia" and I also have that. I had no idea Chino also experience it.
I never thought Deftones were necessarily going out of their way to accomplish some great feat by not naming songs after exact lyrical phrases but it is something that improves the total package for me simply because I have baggage about song titles being repeated in the lyrics especially the chorus.
And I was certain that Deftones were not guilty of NEVER using song titles in the lyrics. I knew there were plenty of examples of them doing just that. I don't really mind it with them because they just manage to compose their songs in a way where that doesn't really stand out because the music and the vocal style is just so good.
@Hidalgo
I'll walk that back a bit, direct lyrics CAN work, especially in other genres like punk. I was thinking more of cringey metal lyrics like 5FDP or Disturbed lol
;D Some of the comments here, lmao.
Tbh it doesn't really bother me about direct lyrics in the title of the song. The one time it made me cringe was in Prayers/Triangles. PRAYERRRRRZ! TRIANGULLLLZ!
Deftones are just one of those bands who are wise enough to change things up every once and awhile and not fall into stupid trends. Sure they have some moments but they've done a pretty good job of keeping it relatively fresh and true to themselves which is an amazing accomplishment for a mainstream band from the 90's, especially considering the nature of the industry. Back to School is a prime example of where they were kind of backed in to a corner to produce a trendy radio hit, but since they have pretty much done whatever they want. There is no excuse for CMD/CTRL though, they'll just have to live with that one...
Have you all noticed how The Spell of Mathematics looks in the poll? Idk but it looks like a giant...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpiP_jN1Pv4
Quote from: Draken on Dec 21, 2020, 01:02 AM
Have you all noticed how The Spell of Mathematics looks in the poll? Idk but it looks like a giant...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpiP_jN1Pv4
I seriously think it is one of the best things they have composed. Especially Chino's lyrics here and melody. The strange things Stephen and Sergio do here are great too. Just sounds fucking amazing to me. I love that shit man. Its Deftones at their finest
aww, I liked PRAYERRRRRZ! TRIANGULLLLZ lol
Have to agree about Spell, maybe a top 10 of all time song
I am so confused by the overwhelming love for the spell of mathematics in the poll.
And I'm equally confused by the lack of love for the title track.
The overwhelming love for Spell is because it's just that good my dude. I will however agree that the lack of love for t/t is disturbing. Easily second best song on here.
The poll was made when the album came out, wasn't it? New songs are always more exciting than a song you heard a month earlier.
true
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 21, 2020, 04:53 PM
And I'm equally confused by the lack of love for the title track.
me too. i'm one of the whopping 2 people who voted for Ohms as my favortite, and it still is. it has the best riffs on the album in my opinion, and probably the best video they've ever made. it's essential deftones to me
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Dec 20, 2020, 11:05 PM
@Hidalgo
I'll walk that back a bit, direct lyrics CAN work, especially in other genres like punk. I was thinking more of cringey metal lyrics like 5FDP or Disturbed lol
well those are garbage bands, so they write terrible lyrics and crap songs. but good bands with straight forward lyrics make good songs. actually most bands i hate, the band is actually ok, just the singer ruins it. like i think godsmack's music is awesome, if it had no lyrics/vocals
Love the title track, it's probably second favourite after Spell. That crescendo riff near the end is all the love.
The demo Chino played on that broadcast was straight up beautiful.
Ohms is delightful to play on guitar too, I tuned up to standard just to learn it. Such a fun jam, almost brings a tear to my eye. It ALMOST tops TSOM for me :P
Im really grateful for this record. Im almost equally grateful that all the other fans of the band, it seems anyways, loves it also. God, i really cant believe they made this.... after Gore. I dont hate Gore, but what i didnt love abt it is the same as everyone else doesn't love abt it
I voted Headless, not sure if that would still be the case but I haven't listened to it start to finish in a while. I also don't get the overwhelming love for Spell but it's a solid track
can't help but feel like the non-TSOM people are just being contrarians lol
Title track IS underrated, easily one of their best tracks of the Sergio era, imo.
and yes I don't understand how anyone could not love TSOM, I think they are just down playing it to be a contrarian, or maybe they just don't love Deftones for the same reasons? Which is fine, we are all different that way. I love them for the moods they create in the music, and TSOM has mood. I also like how their music paints a picture in my head when I listen to it, the biggest reason why I love Deftones. My favorite songs can transport me somewhere else, like into a fantasy or a daydream. TSOM for me always conjures imagery like Game of Thrones Season 2 episode 1: The Burning of the 7 Gods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2NNvYvynM
TSOM is definitely the best "heavy" song on the album. And, it's in what I think is the heart of the album, tracks 2-5. I personally think Errorr is the way to go. But I wouldn't really argue too much with anyone saying any of those tracks are the best or their favorites on the album. Whoever chooses Pompeji on the other hand, ooph.
After 80+ plays I can officially say that Urantia is underwhelming. Also Pompeji. I actually skip them now. The rest of the album hits like a freight train.
TLID to me, is so corny. Its Chino's lyrics and angst here that i cant listen to ever again. For me its a straight 9for 10 or 9 outta 10 record. Love the rest. Urantia is a cool song that grew on me.
Quote from: Visionz on Dec 22, 2020, 10:47 PM
TLID to me, is so corny. Its Chino's lyrics and angst here that i cant listen to ever again. For me its a straight 9for 10 or 9 outta 10 record. Love the rest. Urantia is a cool song that grew on me.
I mostly agree with this. Song also probably easily goes the least places of the 10
actually you're right, I forgot TLID even existed lol
TLID rules.
Genesis has been my least favourite by a distance since the album came out. Pretty good song but I don't think it's anywhere near the other nine tracks.
Really? Genesis fucking kicks ass! That song goes absolutely ham
I like it but it feels a bit too Deftones by-numbers to me. It doesn't excite me like the rest of the album.
Genesis is one of those many Deftones songs that's so close to being great, which makes it eternally frustrating. All they needed to do was unpack the bridge a little more. That moment at 3:35 when Steph starts playing that other riff got me so pumped...and then back to the chorus riff? In the words of Joe Biden, come on man!
WHAT. You guys are serious? I was actually worried about this album because I found Ohms and Genesis underwhelming at first, but after many listens of the album those songs now rank among the best. I seriously can't believe you're criticizing the bridge into chorus riff right now lol
Fuck Biden
gross
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Dec 24, 2020, 03:04 PM
WHAT. You guys are serious? I was actually worried about this album because I found Ohms and Genesis underwhelming at first, but after many listens of the album those songs now rank among the best. I seriously can't believe you're criticizing the bridge into chorus riff right now lol
Writing 90% of an amazing song and calling it a day is the story of this band's career.
If only rainny was always in the studio to tell them what they're doing wrong.
I'll definitely take a 90% amazing song over a 100% shitty song.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Dec 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Dec 24, 2020, 03:04 PM
WHAT. You guys are serious? I was actually worried about this album because I found Ohms and Genesis underwhelming at first, but after many listens of the album those songs now rank among the best. I seriously can't believe you're criticizing the bridge into chorus riff right now lol
Writing 90% of an amazing song and calling it a day is the story of this band's career.
Please elaborate, I'm very interested in what you mean by that. Btw you've been reported to the admins.
What?
joke
;D Wtf
For those of u who "dont get" Urantia.... it will grow legs in time and you will likely deem it a sleeper. Its like a lot of their music, dont hear it at first but later its like bang! U dont understand why u didnt get it before. That song is so 80's and now at the same time somehow and i like it a lot. But im also an 80s baby so i heard all those sounds and songs that remind of this song, then. Its like nostalgia but i guess it isnt?
Anyone else think the song poll should be reset now so we can see how different is now that it's been out for a few months?
Quote from: only pieces remain on Dec 25, 2020, 05:47 PM
Anyone else think the song poll should be reset now so we can see how different is now that it's been out for a few months?
I requested that also.... yes plz
just make a new thread
Unpopular take: I don't think that Terry is the right producer for this record.
It's a good fucking album with the right producer, if you don't "get it" now then you never will
Quote from: laurapalmer on Dec 26, 2020, 11:33 AM
Unpopular take: I don't think that Terry is the right producer for this record.
What on God's flat Earth would make you think that?
I'm all for differing opinions but that's an extremely odd one.
Well admittedly I was pretty drunk when I wrote that but some of the songs sounded alittle flat to me at the time
it's ok we're here to support you
admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. :D
Quote from: Draken on Dec 27, 2020, 10:17 PM
it's ok we're here to support you
admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. :D
LMAO Brilliant and agreed
I'm actually a bit underwhelmed with the production, not gonna lie.
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 29, 2020, 03:02 PM
I'm actually a bit underwhelmed with the production, not gonna lie.
Let's wait and see what reaction this gets
For some reasons, I agree about the production, but I'm not gonna lie, I love the album!..... especially where they are at and WHEN they are at!!! But let's not nitpick, bud. If you are going to sit here and run a thing like this around this band, if you haven't liked things for SO LONG....what do you like V?
I mean it seems you enjoy Deftones, but you haven't really expressed any enjoyment for at least 90% of the material they have released for maybe a decade or more? I mean why do you come here and run this thing when you only act like you are so for this band? I could be reading you wrong, but seriously, it's like you have these high standards for this band that you run this board for. What do you like V? You seem to be stuck on Pink Maggit (2000) which is my fav too.... but what drives you to stay on here every day or every other day,? If you're not into any of this, then what does this all mean? And fuck anybody who wants to suck his dick.... what's the deal, V?
I guess I have a hard time understanding why some people return to the site every day year after year but don't seem to enjoy most of the band's material they are talking about. I thoroughly love this band. There are things of course that aren't perfect, but I really like this band enough to come here at my age and talk about them and engage in conversation, or at least try. But it's because of my love for this band since 1998, that I try to find some kind of conversation here that I come here but I find that a lot of times, it's all about who's camera or connections are bigger, I dont care. But there you go
This reaction was expected and it's very fair, I sure am very active in the community so I understand the confusion.
I haven't enjoyed any of their music the way I enjoy the one they made with Chi. I had a quick phase with Diamond Eyes that didn't last too long. Sorry to sound dramatic but a part of me died when Chi died. I knew it was never going to be the same.
Me keeping up with them despite my "high standards" was a way to move on. I still enjoy going to their shows. I also still find a lot of satisfaction taking care of DeftonesLive. Besides, I got into the community mostly to find a live version of Pink Maggit, hence DeftonesLive. And I still haven't found one, in 15+ years.
I think it was this year that someone uploaded a video of the show of the (possibly) only time they played it live. Security was tight on that day and the guy was cut short, so I'm slowly starting to accept this quest shall remain fruitless. The only way for me to hear that song live would be to gain access to the SBD of that show (if they even kept it), or see Deftones play it live in the present. I'm not hopeful for either of those two.
By being a part of this community and creating DeftonesLive, I learned a lot as a human being and as a professional, and I was able to do that while focusing on my favorite band. It ain't so bad. DeftonesLive is the main reason I'm still here. I like digging into their live history, it gives me a drive.
The evolution of this band, no matter my possible dissatisfactions, remains one of the most interesting things in the history of music. It's just fascinating to me. I am critical (I don't like Black Stallion as a whole, I don't understand the prod on Gore, I don't get why they're not more daring live, etc.), but that's part of the trip. Deftones are like a beautiful dysfunctional, illogical family. On paper, they're a band that does not work. The fact they got as successful, despite their hard work, was a long shot and I'm sure they know that to an extent. They're like a beautiful accident. SharingLungs user musteatbrainz put that in a brilliant way a few years ago, check out their post history.
I don't know the band personally, but they're metaphorically an extension of things I know, and I guess a bit of myself. To get a little more personal, I had an important love story on this forum. We bonded over this band.
If Deftones were the perfect band with rad setlists, Chino on top of this game all the time, 10/10 music every time, I can't imagine how boring it would be for me. Being critical is part of who I am. I know it sounds weird but that's psychology for you. Them being the way they are with setlists makes it so much more rewarding when they actually do something special and you happen to be there. Hearing Combat live premiere in 2011, and Battle-axe in 2018 after 11 years of not being played, are two of the moments I'll never forget. Those occurrences being so rare make it much more personal in a strange way. Can you imagine how boring the sky would be if you could see shooting stars all the time?
Additionally, regarding DeftonesLive again, so much has been done. My White Pony video was pretty successful, I heard they watched it. I hate to sound like a fanboy but fuck it, it feels great. Not to mention the big following we built over time who like the editing and historian works we provide.
Didn't mean to get too deep but there you go. They're the best band ever. Fuck what everyone says.
And yes, I am super obsessed with Pink Maggit. That doesn't stop me from discovering lots of other beautiful music. But there's nothing like this song. There will never be. It's like that one-in-a-billion shot. And the mystery around it (they almost never played it live - they never talk about the demo they used to play live when they talk about the pre-White Pony days - there's a version on YouTube you can't find anywhere else, etc.) makes it so much more fascinating to me. I don't need an excuse.
Oh I forgot to mention: Ohms is great. There's only one track I can't click with. The Spell of Mathematics is majestic and in my top 10. Every other song is also a banger.
My main beef with the prod is the surprising lack of drum power. It's the same guy who produced White Pony and the self-titled. I didn't feel that hit.
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 30, 2020, 07:29 AM
Oh I forgot to mention: Ohms is great. There's only one track I can't click with. The Spell of Mathematics is majestic and in my top 10. Every other song is also a banger.
My main beef with the prod is the surprising lack of drum power. It's the same guy who produced White Pony and the self-titled. I didn't feel that hit.
Thats grrrrreat to hear that u also enjoy Ohms..... but when I met the band at Gusoline Alley in Royal Oak Michigan USA in 2012, they didn't seem like the type of guys who cared about making any of us happy. It was the third time meeti g most of the band ,and each member simply lead me to believe the music they were making was the music they were simply making and that they wanted to make just like we have all been led to believe..... There is no secret to any of this hiding songs/not playing songs, etc from what ive heard anyways( got to drink with them once in Royal Oak) honest people they were/are i suspect
There's probably not a big mystery behind it. Deftones just happened to become masters at building a mystique without even knowing. That's how I became a fan! And it's fine if there's nothing behind it. The trip is what matters.
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 30, 2020, 08:06 AM
There's probably not a big mystery behind it. Deftones just happened to become masters at building a mystique without even knowing. That's how I became a fan! And it's fine if there's nothing behind it. The trip is what matters.
NICE!!! Thats exactly what i feel... i dont have anyone in my personal life to ruin that or make it better besides this board. I love that and thank you.
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 30, 2020, 07:29 AM
Oh I forgot to mention: Ohms is great. There's only one track I can't click with. The Spell of Mathematics is majestic and in my top 10. Every other song is also a banger.
Motherfucker still ain't into Urantia?
A PICTURE PERFECT STRAAAAAAAAAAANGE
Hey, good to see this place still exists after all these years.
Ohms is a top tier album imo. Only song I can't really get into is Ceremony. Not feeling the "it's an illuuuuuuusion" part. This Link Is Dead and Radiant City are fucking bangers though. Also Urantia for the riffage.
Terry's production on Ohms is a bit "dirty", more Adrenaline and S/T than the "big slickness" of Around the Fur and White Pony. I know nothing about music production, mind you, just going by what my "ear gut" tells me.
Urantia is great but it's not a song I can loop over and over like their other songs. That opening riff gimmick gets old kinda quick.
I agree about the production, though I still feel that Terry was the right choice for producer. The man is like a 6th band member to Deftones. I think not being able to mix the entire album together in the same room might have had an effect on the end result. Genesis just feels off to me, it's probably the drums not slapping like they should as some of you have said. Idk why modern production doesn't favor hard hitting drums they way they used to... I feel the same disappointment in Failure's new music. Just listen to Small Crimes from their Magnified album and then listen to Distorted Fields from their 2018 album afterward and you'll see what I mean. Those drums need to hit you deep in the chest...
and Ves, I feel you on a lot of what you said. It's amazing how everyone has their own personal connections to the art form, it makes it deeply personal and unique to us. That's why it's fascinating to me how everyone here gravitates to different songs and sounds that the same band produces.
I feel the same way about Chi, doesn't mean I don't love some of the Sergio era stuff though. It's just not the same anymore, the dynamic has changed. His spirit isn't in the music because now it's Sergio, and Sergio does a fantastic job, they really couldn't have found a better replacement. (Though you can never replace someone like Chi, same as you can never replace any of them.)
Oh and I just want to thank you Ves again for running DeftonesLive. Good stuff man. I too hope to hear a better setlist from these guys, especially one with Pink Maggit.
Quote from: LG95 on Dec 30, 2020, 02:08 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 30, 2020, 07:29 AM
Oh I forgot to mention: Ohms is great. There's only one track I can't click with. The Spell of Mathematics is majestic and in my top 10. Every other song is also a banger.
Motherfucker still ain't into Urantia?
A PICTURE PERFECT STRAAAAAAAAAAANGE
Haha exactly!! I have to give V shit all the time for it! I'm grateful for this band and the friendships I've made over them ! Even tho I've never met V In person, we have shared so much music over the years and had hundreds of hours of conversation about our favorite band! And I'm super grateful for that!
I feel the same Way. The drums just don't punch like I was expecting. Still really like the record and definitely wish chino played more guitar on it. To me my favorite jams are when Chino and Steph both play guitar.
But that Urantia Chorus is a beauty!!😉🙌🏻
The problem with Urantia and Pompeji is that upon frequent listens, those tracks fall by the wayside. They just don't hold up to repeated playing like the rest of the album does. And I don't really like the production on this album either. It's not bad, but I feel like Date produced this album like it was an old version of Deftones, while the band has kind of modernized since then leaving a bit of a weird disconnect there. Great album though, a strong 8/10
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Dec 31, 2020, 06:21 AM
And I don't really like the production on this album either. It's not bad, but I feel like Date produced this album like it was an old version of Deftones, while the band has kind of modernized since then leaving a bit of a weird disconnect there.
I disagree with this. I don't think this is produced like any of his other Deftones albums. It's more raw, less drum-heavy, more live sounding.
I can completely understand why V is somewhat disillusioned with the band's work following Cheng's death. It's simply not the same band for many reasons and in many ways. They are much safer now. And it's not that Cheng was the source of the band's edge/mystique, or that they wouldn't have progressed this way should that accident not have occurred. It's impossible to nail down the change to one particular reason, but safe to say it's not the same band in many ways.
That said, I still find their past works - particularly WP, ST, some of SNW, and Eros era material - absolutely enthralling, especially live footage from 1999-2004. That connection is so deep and, after 20 years of being a fan, will never be dulled. And it's what keeps me coming back here as well.
As far as Ohms, I'm frankly surprised so many are in love with album. I certainly don't need WP, ST, or older material rehashed and duplicated. But what I've come to expect from the band are interesting, new ideas/riffs, profound lyrics, unique melodies, and unmistakable depth. I didn't find any of those things on this record. Instead, I found some contrived/lazy riffs, uninspired or cringey lyrics, and a band phoning it in with a producer who are all past their creative peaks.
It KILLS me to say these things about a band I love so dearly, but if something doesn't click with me personally, then that's my opinion. Of course, everyone has their own, and no opinion is right/wrong, but some are more shared than others, which can shut out dissenting ones. I will say the riff on "Radiant City" is pretty badass, but after at least 100 listens to Ohms since release, I still can't hear any of the songs in my head when trying to recall them. For me a forgettable record, but truly happy it resonated with so many others.
And in no way does my experience with Ohms at all put a dent in my appreciation for the band I grew up on and with many years ago.
how dare you formulate your own opinion
Quote from: mandalay on Jan 06, 2021, 01:41 AM
I can completely understand why V is somewhat disillusioned with the band's work following Cheng's death. It's simply not the same band for many reasons and in many ways. They are much safer now. And it's not that Cheng was the source of the band's edge/mystique, or that they wouldn't have progressed this way should that accident not have occurred. It's impossible to nail down the change to one particular reason, but safe to say it's not the same band in many ways.
That said, I still find their past works - particularly WP, ST, some of SNW, and Eros era material - absolutely enthralling, especially live footage from 1999-2004. That connection is so deep and, after 20 years of being a fan, will never be dulled. And it's what keeps me coming back here as well.
As far as Ohms, I'm frankly surprised so many are in love with album. I certainly don't need WP, ST, or older material rehashed and duplicated. But what I've come to expect from the band are interesting, new ideas/riffs, profound lyrics, unique melodies, and unmistakable depth. I didn't find any of those things on this record. Instead, I found some contrived/lazy riffs, uninspired or cringey lyrics, and a band phoning it in with a producer who are all past their creative peaks.
It KILLS me to say these things about a band I love so dearly, but if something doesn't click with me personally, then that's my opinion. Of course, everyone has their own, and no opinion is right/wrong, but some are more shared than others, which can shut out dissenting ones. I will say the riff on "Radiant City" is pretty badass, but after at least 100 listens to Ohms since release, I still can't hear any of the songs in my head when trying to recall them. For me a forgettable record, but truly happy it resonated with so many others.
And in no way does my experience with Ohms at all put a dent in my appreciation for the band I grew up on and with many years ago.
10/10
I remember being fascinated by The Spell of Mathematics and the outro to Pompeji when the summer leak occurred. Still I believe they're the two most interesting parts of this record. If I were analyzing those bits with the standards of the previous releases, I would say those two bits are where I only started to feel the "Deftones vibe" again, whatever that means. The depth, the intrigue, the quality, it was getting there. But that's the thing: it was only getting there. I loved the outro to Pompeji and remember being super disappointed nothing on the record accompanied, finished what this bit had started. And the rest of the record falls flat in comparison. I even remember feeling very emotional upon hearing that outro. I was convinced that my favorite band were going in deep again, after all this time with records that wouldn't do half of the job, and this record would finally approach the quality of pre-Sergio era.
Now in retrospect, with a realistic sense of expectation, Ohms in great. While the old me with the old standards would say only those two bits are interesting. I know it sounds weird so I hope you can appreciate the duality of my perspective. I've talked with a mate of mine who has felt completely let down since Diamond Eyes, and she feels exactly the same way about those parts of Ohms. I can't even tell you how much she hates Black Stallion. She feels the band has been self-sabotaging since Diamond Eyes, and I will be honest and say I understand what she means, their popularity barely being an argument. I felt shortchanged with the WP20 release. I still bought it, because I love the band. But I'm with her, I think there is wasted potential. I'll still support whatever they put out, I just won't necessarily be silent about it as an individual. Too bad if I'm shooting myself in the foot, I don't feel the need to compromise.
If I were still deep in old standards, I wouldn't like the title track, and I fucking love the guitar work on the title track. The "crescendo" riff before the repeated intro at the end had me grinning hard when I listened to it on Spotify on release day.
I know the lyrics are "I drink the poison right from your hands", but I hear it as "I drink the poison right from your ass" every single time.
Great write-up, V, and thanks for sharing. I agree the outro of Pompeji is pretty damn interesting and moody. I honestly think it could have opened the record. It feels a bit tacked onto the end of Pompeji. As far as the outro of Spell, nothing makes me cringe more than the visual of Zach Hill and whatever other hipsters they recruited to snap their fingers in the studio. I can just picture it, and now I can't listen to it lol.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 07, 2021, 02:00 AM
I know the lyrics are "I drink the poison right from your hands", but I hear it as "I drink the poison right from your ass" every single time.
LOL! Thanks dude, you just ruined the song for me...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 06, 2021, 02:58 PM
Quote from: mandalay on Jan 06, 2021, 01:41 AM
I can completely understand why V is somewhat disillusioned with the band's work following Cheng's death. It's simply not the same band for many reasons and in many ways. They are much safer now. And it's not that Cheng was the source of the band's edge/mystique, or that they wouldn't have progressed this way should that accident not have occurred. It's impossible to nail down the change to one particular reason, but safe to say it's not the same band in many ways.
That said, I still find their past works - particularly WP, ST, some of SNW, and Eros era material - absolutely enthralling, especially live footage from 1999-2004. That connection is so deep and, after 20 years of being a fan, will never be dulled. And it's what keeps me coming back here as well.
As far as Ohms, I'm frankly surprised so many are in love with album. I certainly don't need WP, ST, or older material rehashed and duplicated. But what I've come to expect from the band are interesting, new ideas/riffs, profound lyrics, unique melodies, and unmistakable depth. I didn't find any of those things on this record. Instead, I found some contrived/lazy riffs, uninspired or cringey lyrics, and a band phoning it in with a producer who are all past their creative peaks.
It KILLS me to say these things about a band I love so dearly, but if something doesn't click with me personally, then that's my opinion. Of course, everyone has their own, and no opinion is right/wrong, but some are more shared than others, which can shut out dissenting ones. I will say the riff on "Radiant City" is pretty badass, but after at least 100 listens to Ohms since release, I still can't hear any of the songs in my head when trying to recall them. For me a forgettable record, but truly happy it resonated with so many others.
And in no way does my experience with Ohms at all put a dent in my appreciation for the band I grew up on and with many years ago.
10/10
I remember being fascinated by The Spell of Mathematics and the outro to Pompeji when the summer leak occurred. Still I believe they're the two most interesting parts of this record. If I were analyzing those bits with the standards of the previous releases, I would say those two bits are where I only started to feel the "Deftones vibe" again, whatever that means. The depth, the intrigue, the quality, it was getting there. But that's the thing: it was only getting there. I loved the outro to Pompeji and remember being super disappointed nothing on the record accompanied, finished what this bit had started. And the rest of the record falls flat in comparison. I even remember feeling very emotional upon hearing that outro. I was convinced that my favorite band were going in deep again, after all this time with records that wouldn't do half of the job, and this record would finally approach the quality of pre-Sergio era.
Now in retrospect, with a realistic sense of expectation, Ohms in great. While the old me with the old standards would say only those two bits are interesting. I know it sounds weird so I hope you can appreciate the duality of my perspective. I've talked with a mate of mine who has felt completely let down since Diamond Eyes, and she feels exactly the same way about those parts of Ohms. I can't even tell you how much she hates Black Stallion. She feels the band has been self-sabotaging since Diamond Eyes, and I will be honest and say I understand what she means, their popularity barely being an argument. I felt shortchanged with the WP20 release. I still bought it, because I love the band. But I'm with her, I think there is wasted potential. I'll still support whatever they put out, I just won't necessarily be silent about it as an individual. Too bad if I'm shooting myself in the foot, I don't feel the need to compromise.
If I were still deep in old standards, I wouldn't like the title track, and I fucking love the guitar work on the title track. The "crescendo" riff before the repeated intro at the end had me grinning hard when I listened to it on Spotify on release day.
I've been coming to the same conclusion about their post-Chi material. None of it has ever lived up to the run they had from ATF to SNW but I do still get that same Deftones feeling from a lot of it. It's a bit less mysterious and etherial and a little more polished and radio-friendly but it still has a lot of the elements I enjoy from the early records.
I do love Ohms quite a bit but I do think the return of Terry Date wasn't what I'd hoped. Some of those elements he brought to the production were missing (the huge drums, the full sounding guitars, Chino's crooning, etc.) so I was a bit underwhelmed by that. However, at least it was competently mixed and mastered so it doesn't sound like Gore (I love Gore but that mix is atrocious).
I didn't think you'd like Ohms for some reason Romain but I'm glad to hear you've been changing your perspective and expectations with their more recent output.
Maybe I'll start coming back to these boards more often again. I've been out of the Deftones fan scene for quite some time.
There's a whole lot of nostalgia and fetishization of this band among the fanbase. Yes, Chi was an awesome dude and Terry Date has been involved with some of their best work, but I hardly think it's accurate to say this band has fallen off post-Chi and that they need Date to get their best sound. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading some interview that stated Stephen was the main songwriter for much of their career. That he wrote most all of the strings which includes the bass (until Chino came along), and had a hand in some of the drums and keys as well. I'm sure Chi wrote his share of good stuff and there's a certain intangibility to his presence that must be acknowledged and must have had an effect on the vibe of the band and the writing. But to say that this band is somehow not as good without Chi and with Sergio is kind of nuts. Sorry, but I believe Sergio to be the better technical player and writer. In fact, without Sergio, I think this band may have had to call it a day. From what we've heard of Eros, it didn't sound that interesting, and I think the band agrees today. Stephen's writing has fallen off quite a bit in my opinion and a lot of the more interesting stuff I believe is coming from Sergio. KNY, and to a lesser extent DE, were new creative peaks for the band and were done without Chi or Date. They clearly don't require Date to make great stuff. Stephen has been the weakest link on these last two. Dude needs to smoke less weed and go back to the 7-string at least. Leave the bass playing to Sergio and start writing more progressive stuff. I'm not asking for Tool or Oceansize, but something between their current sound and that would be the way to go.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 12, 2021, 11:03 PM
Stephen's writing has fallen off quite a bit in my opinion and a lot of the more interesting stuff I believe is coming from Sergio. Stephen has been the weakest link on these last two. Dude needs to smoke less weed and go back to the 7-string at least. Leave the bass playing to Sergio and start writing more progressive stuff.
I agree with these statements completely
I think the guitar works on the album are pretty damn good. I love the breakdown on Genesis, the chorus riff on Ceremony, the rhythmic use of the 9-string on Spell. The riffs on the title track are beautiful.
I think the way they write songs has evolved which means Stef's work tends to be more textural than before, especially on the last two records. Like TSOM for example supposedly originated from Abe and Sergio, and they built it from there. It feels like a Stef song because it's dark and sludgy but he's really just jumping aboard someone else's idea and expanding it. The title track is more an example of Stef's riffing and unsurprisingly it's because the song originated from him.
Stephen's work on the last four albums is a bit of a mixed bag for me, varying from song to song. For every boring, uninspired riff like the ones on Beauty School, the Diamond Eyes title track or What Happened to You?, there's really unique playing like his work on Royal and Acid Hologram. Sometimes the simplicity of his riffs works to beautiful effect (Genesis), other times it leaves something to be desired (Swerve City).
I don't understand not liking the Diamond Eyes and Swerve City riffs. Two of the biggest riffs Stef's ever written.
Both far better than Genesis.
Dislike is a strong word - those songs have other elements that make them listenable for me (Swerve's bridge is really solid), but I just don't think either feature his best work. The Genesis riff has more groove and a certain swing to it, while the Diamond Eyes and Swerve riffs are a bit leaden to me (the DE riff in particular). Just one man's opinion.
Quote from: LG95 on Jan 13, 2021, 11:29 PM
I don't understand not liking the Diamond Eyes and Swerve City riffs. Two of the biggest riffs Stef's ever written.
Both far better than Genesis.
they're boring
The Swerve City riff is by far my least favorite riff he's ever created ... so boring . Same with you've seen the butcher ... both do absolutely nothing for me.
Wanting Stephen to branch out more.. I thought what he did on Smile was really cool. In my opinion he's writing has really gone downhill since he moved to the 8 and 9 string.. his heaviest and best material came on the 6 and 7's for sure... but that's just my opinion..
Nothing compares to BQAD, Lotion, Korea, Change, Hex, WGTB, KimDrac
Someone said a few days ago that they just seem safe now and I totally agree. Way less mysterious than they used to be. More predictable now and I hate that. And I feel the same about their live shows. We don't get many special moments anymore. And very little jams or passages inbetween songs anymore. It's like the atmosphere just isn't there. I remember Frank doing the coolest stuff inbetween songs back in the day. I really miss that.
Got no problem with simplistic riffs, as long as it sounds fresh, and there are other aspects of the song that keep it interesting. One of my biggest gripes with this band is when they rip themselves off. We certainly don't need anymore 0-2-3 type riffs or fake bridges that just amount to playing one of the main guitar riffs without the rest of the band (Moana, etc.) or a completely predictable drone (Rocket Skates). I have no problem with the simplistic riffs on stuff like Swerve City or (to a lesser extent) Diamond Eyes. The thing that makes Swerve City for me is the little solo they threw in there. Again, simplistic, but it was super fresh and catchy. Also, the song doesn't overstay its welcome. Compare that with Hexagram that just drones on and on with the verse riff. If it had been a short number like Swerve City or they had done a proper bridge or something, I'd be ecstatic about that song. Great riffs in that song, but it just gets tired.
I hear a lot of the same problems with the latest album. So many great ideas, but they just don't quite nail the execution. I'm fine with the simple Genesis verse riff. But the chorus sounds very derivative of Poltergeist. And damn it, the bridge. That moment when Steph changes up the riff for like 10 seconds, I was so pumped. And then back to the chorus riff? So boring. That easily could've been something that totally took off (a solo or a proper bridge?) but they just took the easy way out. Same thing when they get to the next to last riff on Ohms. I was like "Hell yeah!" Sounds so much like Hum and I thought they were going to do something similar where they build that riff and throw in a bunch of variations to throw your brain off. But nope, just back to the intro riff and then it ends. These guys are the ultimate slackers that waste their potential.
The problem you have with Genesis is the same problem I have with Swerve. Verses and bridge are great, but then right back to that "dun dun dun dadadun" riff in the chorus and outro. Genesis feels a lot more expansive to me. The outro, for instance, has the main riff but with that extra soloing over it to give it variance.
Also, the Genesis chorus sounds like the Poltergeist chorus? Don't hear that at all. I hear a slight similarity in sound to Leathers (my favorite song off Koi), and Genesis is my favorite from Ohms, so there's probably something there. Honestly, I can try to quantify why something works or doesn't work for me, but a lot of it is just about a particular sound of Deftones that I'm biased to and which songs I'm getting a visceral reaction from.
And since we're talking about Stef riffs, just want to give a little love to his unloved Prayers/Triangles riffs. The soft, melodic one in the verses is straight up beautiful to me.
Quote from: E-Money on Jan 14, 2021, 09:34 PM
The Swerve City riff is by far my least favorite riff he's ever created ... so boring . Same with you've seen the butcher ... both do absolutely nothing for me.
Wanting Stephen to branch out more.. I thought what he did on Smile was really cool. In my opinion he's writing has really gone downhill since he moved to the 8 and 9 string.. his heaviest and best material came on the 6 and 7's for sure... but that's just my opinion..
Nothing compares to BQAD, Lotion, Korea, Change, Hex, WGTB, KimDrac
Someone said a few days ago that they just seem safe now and I totally agree. Way less mysterious than they used to be. More predictable now and I hate that. And I feel the same about their live shows. We don't get many special moments anymore. And very little jams or passages inbetween songs anymore. It's like the atmosphere just isn't there. I remember Frank doing the coolest stuff inbetween songs back in the day. I really miss that.
My thoughts exactly. The 8-string was the downfall.
I feel like Genesis could have gone somewhere really incredible... the bridge is some of the best music they have created and I absolutely hate how it just goes back into the chorus. Could have been a really special song . I feel like right when we're about to go somewhere incredible they just don't quite get there anymore. I've really felt that way since Chi passed. I still love this band with all my heart and I hope Ohms isn't the last time I get to hear new Deftones.
Quote from: E-Money on Jan 14, 2021, 09:34 PM
The Swerve City riff is by far my least favorite riff he's ever created ... so boring . Same with you've seen the butcher ... both do absolutely nothing for me.
Wanting Stephen to branch out more.. I thought what he did on Smile was really cool. In my opinion he's writing has really gone downhill since he moved to the 8 and 9 string.. his heaviest and best material came on the 6 and 7's for sure... but that's just my opinion..
Nothing compares to BQAD, Lotion, Korea, Change, Hex, WGTB, KimDrac
Someone said a few days ago that they just seem safe now and I totally agree. Way less mysterious than they used to be. More predictable now and I hate that. And I feel the same about their live shows. We don't get many special moments anymore. And very little jams or passages inbetween songs anymore. It's like the atmosphere just isn't there. I remember Frank doing the coolest stuff inbetween songs back in the day. I really miss that.
Exactly!!!
The "magic" definitely isn't all the way there anymore. Its all i can say to sum up what i really feel anymore without writing way to much down here and losing focus/my point. I do think it is Chi's absence and Deftones' age as a band. Imagine being 50 with all the expectation and drumming up new ideas especially as a fragmented band (we all are with Covid 19)..... and to antcipate they will bring it next time (fragmented especially) is a scary thought now for me. Wish they had it in them to hit each other in the forehead every morning and screen for fevers and hunker down (sounds like the best time ever if ever a time) and cook up something that they really truly, ALL believe in. Ohms is a good record, i respect it..... but can i dream?
Quote from: mandalay on Jan 06, 2021, 01:41 AM
I can completely understand why V is somewhat disillusioned with the band's work following Cheng's death. It's simply not the same band for many reasons and in many ways. They are much safer now. And it's not that Cheng was the source of the band's edge/mystique, or that they wouldn't have progressed this way should that accident not have occurred. It's impossible to nail down the change to one particular reason, but safe to say it's not the same band in many ways.
That said, I still find their past works - particularly WP, ST, some of SNW, and Eros era material - absolutely enthralling, especially live footage from 1999-2004. That connection is so deep and, after 20 years of being a fan, will never be dulled. And it's what keeps me coming back here as well.
As far as Ohms, I'm frankly surprised so many are in love with album. I certainly don't need WP, ST, or older material rehashed and duplicated. But what I've come to expect from the band are interesting, new ideas/riffs, profound lyrics, unique melodies, and unmistakable depth. I didn't find any of those things on this record. Instead, I found some contrived/lazy riffs, uninspired or cringey lyrics, and a band phoning it in with a producer who are all past their creative peaks.
It KILLS me to say these things about a band I love so dearly, but if something doesn't click with me personally, then that's my opinion. Of course, everyone has their own, and no opinion is right/wrong, but some are more shared than others, which can shut out dissenting ones. I will say the riff on "Radiant City" is pretty badass, but after at least 100 listens to Ohms since release, I still can't hear any of the songs in my head when trying to recall them. For me a forgettable record, but truly happy it resonated with so many others.
And in no way does my experience with Ohms at all put a dent in my appreciation for the band I grew up on and with many years ago.
Quote from: E-Money on Jan 14, 2021, 09:34 PM
The Swerve City riff is by far my least favorite riff he's ever created ... so boring . Same with you've seen the butcher ... both do absolutely nothing for me.
Wanting Stephen to branch out more.. I thought what he did on Smile was really cool. In my opinion he's writing has really gone downhill since he moved to the 8 and 9 string.. his heaviest and best material came on the 6 and 7's for sure... but that's just my opinion..
Nothing compares to BQAD, Lotion, Korea, Change, Hex, WGTB, KimDrac
Someone said a few days ago that they just seem safe now and I totally agree. Way less mysterious than they used to be. More predictable now and I hate that. And I feel the same about their live shows. We don't get many special moments anymore. And very little jams or passages inbetween songs anymore. It's like the atmosphere just isn't there. I remember Frank doing the coolest stuff inbetween songs back in the day. I really miss that.
These are some of the most lucid and spot on analysis I have read of the current state of the band. I think Koi No Yokan hints at some elements from the previous albums until SNW, but still not the same band as it was. OHMS for me so far sounds like a more cohesive version of Gore, which is good but not ideal ....gotta say the last time the band gave me goosebumps was when I heard Smile....still, Spell of Mathematics its the kind of song I always wanted to hear from them.....its sludgy, but its mixed with a mysterious post punk/gothic vibe from the bands Chino and Sergio listen and wear T-shirts at live shows (like Siouxsie And The Banshees).
EDIT: I'm not a forum heavy user, so I don't know how to take my paragraph out of the first quote ;D
I just think that Ohms faces the problem of not breaking totally new ground for the band. There are no truly bold steps on this album, to my ears. The synth sounds may be mentioned as one such step, but that seemed to be more of a theme than anything (an allusion to the 80s sound).
I suppose there doesn't need to be any bold steps on an album, but for a band this long in the tooth why NOT? Bold moves are compelling, sonic changes mean growth! For all Gore is, it at least represented a slightly greater attempt at that (even dealing with the same nostalgic vibes in a prototype way).
The album just doesn't have the feeling of progression to me. The songs are there, as solid as most are, but they don't bring coherent direction. Pompeji certainly FEELS like a climax, but the album doesn't seem to earn it-- what is it truly the climax of? Ohms certainly FEELS triumphant, like an epiphany, especially if you listen to it standalone-- but the album doesn't build up to it (as a closing track) the same way White Pony did Pink Maggit, or SNW did Riviere. Headless is my least favorite track, and within the album it also doesn't set the stage for the closer like a penultimate song should (again, think Kimdracula into Riviere and Change into Pink Maggit).
The album comes across to me like it is trying to be cinematic. It wants to have the exposition, the buildup, the climax, and the (in this case triumphant) closer like a movie does. All of this set in some broken, maybe apocalyptical world metaphorical to our own (per the lyrics of Genesis and Ohms). But personally it didn't work for me. It is certainly a cool idea, but the song power just isn't there to back it up. Perhaps a different song order would help, to better re-contextualize the final track, but again the song power isn't there imo. If it was for you, then hell yeah man! This is certainly not a bad album, and if this album is a daily listen for you then that's killer. It just doesn't achieve (to me) what it appears to set out to.
My top-3 Deftones albums in order they're released: S/T, SNW & Ohms. Those three are like number one for me. White Pony obviously then the second.
I think Ohms is super focused. It still feels fresh after few months. Songs offer more structure-wise than ever. I have no problem Steph doing what he does. I will take a band as a cohesive entity over the need of a guitarist showing off their skills in a heartbeat. Anyday. And that's what Deftones sounds now more than ever during Sergio-era. A cohesive entity. Can't wait what they'll come up with the next one!
Only things I wish were different:
- Genesis: Not a fan of the chorus nor the intro. Both feel a little too familiar from the last 10 years.
- Radiant City: The song would've benefitted of the second verse cutted in half or replace the latter half with the new part in the song. To me it feels a bit too repetitive especially with that repetitive riff as it is.
Ceremony is the new single
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2021, 12:04 AM
Ceremony is the new single
That Track has grown on me more than any other on the Album.
@Formant Headless is your least fave? Dude, that song rules.
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Jan 29, 2021, 11:34 AM
@Formant Headless is your least fave? Dude, that song rules.
I respect your love for it, man. It feels like a combo of SNW and KNY, which should be right up my alley!
But I dunno, I'm not into Chino's vocals throughout the track-- they feel thin and strained. And the lyrics come off an odd way. The transitions between verse and chorus, and then amongst the bridge sections (when the intro guitar returns), don't feel smooth-- more so jittery, like momentum keeps being lost. The song just kinda happens, feels like it wants to be momentous but the production doesn't provide that. A whimper rather than a bang.
Like I said, it also doesn't open the door for Ohms in the best way imo. Then again, no one track can do that, it has to be the whole album.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2021, 12:04 AM
Ceremony is the new single
Best song on the album.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CN3DR_ULv33/
Looks like they have a big Hollywood director for Ceremony. Should be interesting.
I'm looking forward to that. Ceremony feels deserving of a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbl0aSRzvKg
Fun video, liked the guys as shady doormen concept.
Is anyone a lip reader? What is said at the end by that green pendant witch lady ? :)
The video reminded a little bit of a part of the movie 'DARK WEB: CICADA 3301'a little bit. With the questions, rituals and tests.
Applies eye makes up. Steps away/ walks past pristine white car with a lit interior. Descends into deeper levels/states of bad to get to where she thinks she wants to go.
Gives away a golden bee statue - at this point shes pretty much at some debaucherous knife party.
Then walks past an owl - gets fanged - then walks past some lockers. Descends deeper to the last level.
Meets an upside down half moon crescent faced, green pendant wearing witch/ and is told the consequences of her actions? Rejected passage to the afterlife?
She won't be reborn? She's in purgatory? Lost her soul?
She's damned? She's dead? Her fate is revealed?
Some Ohm Seti priestess shit about reincarnation?
......Nickelback wrote all her favourite deftones songs?
...............They don't validate parking?
Seemed to have more than a few nods to the white pony era/ diamond eyes style white owl thrown in there too.
o.O
Hmmm.........I didn't see many ledges.................... So I'm just chalking it up to 'It's just some random shit about honey' 😂
Or more likely, 'You don't want to know what the lyrics really mean.... the truth is too dark' / 'Be careful what you wish for' vibe.
Really dig the film clip.
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 21, 2021, 03:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbl0aSRzvKg
Fun video, liked the guys as shady doormen concept.
Reminds me of a A Serbian Film (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1273235/)
Quote from: lungdamage on Apr 21, 2021, 05:40 PM
Is anyone a lip reader? What is said at the end by that green pendant witch lady ? :)
The trick on this kind of cinematography is to make the sync lip to be completely unsynced to the actual words, so I guess she's just saying blah blah blah
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 30, 2020, 08:06 AM
There's probably not a big mystery behind it. Deftones just happened to become masters at building a mystique without even knowing. That's how I became a fan!
You know what? Thats 1000% the way I feel.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 12, 2021, 11:03 PMFrom what we've heard of Eros, it didn't sound that interesting
It might be me, but I loved a lot of the 'Eros' leak.
I thought the video was really cool!
I was kind of underwhelmed on first watch but it's actually really well done; really cool, creepy vibe, beautifully shot, lots of cool references that I wasn't expecting too.
Two good videos on one Deftones album. Mental.
needs more band playing in outer space imo
Ceremony was fun, I loved the part with Abe, it made me grin. Did anyone else notice the White Pony neon sign inside the bar? I feel like there's more details like that I missed so I want to go back and watch it again. I hope they do Spell next...
Ohms title track is their best music video. I really liked the video for Genesis as well, simple but fits with the music.
I'm really itching to hear songs from Ohms live now!
21 months later and I think Ohms is possibly my 2nd favorite Deftones album behind only ATF. *Favorite*, not best. Best is subjective but White Pony and S/T are almost certainly *better* albums if you could somehow rate music objectively. But almost 2 years out and I still listen to Ohms all the time. "Urantia" and "Spell of Mathematics" are top 5 all time track contenders in my book. Top 10 at worst. Probably throw "Headless" in there too. My only knock on 'headless" would be that it's nothing new. But I do kind of see it as Deftones perfected. Just mt two cents. Hope everyone is having a great summer!
Ohms is still in heavy rotation for me, the whole album, I think it's up their with some of the best work they have done
Love 'Ohms'. Going back and playing it often. It definitely keeps growing.
I'd say it's my fourth favourite album by them; 'Around The Fur', 'S/T', 'White Pony' and then 'Ohms'.
It's been a while since I last listen Ohms. It usually happens when I play something almost nonstop for a few days/week (s).
I remember the 1st Deftones show I went too, I waited that moment for so long and when the gig was over I couldnt listen to them for a while, like a couple months. It literally drained my energy. Not that I got bored or something, I just had to take a break. I dont know how to properly explain. Eventually it all came back and I was listening to songs on a daily basis.
I'll probably listen to Ohms again when Im outside taking a walk or something.
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