I am sure many of you have seen rumors floating around that Sergio is indeed leaving the band/being replaced. I saw some comments on a Facebook that stated he will be replaced by a bassists from another well known act. Again, just rumors, and the details I read were merely social media comments. But I don't understand why someone would conjure up these stories if they were false.
IMO, Sergio was an absolutely perfect fit for the band after Chi's tragic accident. It took a long time for me to really see him for who he was, rather than compare him to Chi. Sergio has just been a fantastic member these past 14 years and I appreciate his contribution to Deftones more than any other words could say. If any of this is true, I hope it was amicable and they are all still great friends.
Real bummer :(
Hmmm, I suppose it's possible, but until an official announcement is made, I would just file under internet rumors. I guess what's making people think that is they uploaded a profile picture on Spotify without Sergio. I know Chino said on one of those podcasts that they meet up roughly once a month (without Sergio because he's on the east coast and/or touring with Quicksand). It's possible that someone just snapped a picture of them during one of those meetings as it looks pretty recent. The only other thing that could bring in a replacement is if the upcoming Deftones tour was at the same time as a Quicksand tour, but I dunno Quicksand's tour dates.
The fact he hasn't replied to any comments on socials makes me think it's true.
wtf are these rumors coming from?.....are they true ?
A lot of places. There's a big reddit thread on it. And it's looking more and more like its true. It is what it is, I guess.
It's official, Sergio has stated he is no longer in Deftones:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ca3t3Hkg5ON/?utm_medium=copy_link
Welp, end of an era. Sergio's a good guy and a damn fine musician. Wish him the best.
This is a pretty ugly situation if Sergio's perspective is true. The band never recognizing him an as official member throughout 14 years is pretty cold if you ask me. I doubt he'd be getting much money from streams, merch, etc during the COVID downtime, if any. I'm getting some bad vibes from this.
If he left early last year then it's actually just over eleven years because he first joined for shows in mid-2009. But the point stands.
I presumed that post-Chi's death he was an official member.
Just read about this.
Wow, this sucks.
Always thought Sergio was a legit full member.
really bizarre how he has to thank the other members in a video message, you'd think that they'd at least have a whatsapp group together
Wow crazy news. I can't believe he was not made an official member after all of those years of writing records together and touring the world together. How dumb is that?
Quote from: Martin on Mar 09, 2022, 09:34 AM
Just read about this.
Wow, this sucks.
Always thought Sergio was a legit full member.
Same. As someone said earlier, something feels odd here. Really sad to hear.
He was always a stand-in in my eyes, don't care for how long. Same would go for anyone else playing bass in the band after Chi. Serg should be glad for the opportunity to play with the sickest band there is. dont let the door hit u on the way out i guess
Dave's not here man
After that flat-earth, anti-vax shit show from last year, to me this is the second nail in the coffin for the band. They had a year to say anything, fucking hell
This hella sucks
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 10, 2022, 07:04 AM
After that flat-earth, anti-vax shit show from last year, to me this is the second nail in the coffin for the band. They had a year to say anything, fucking hell
They don't owe you anything.
Quote from: nicklav on Mar 11, 2022, 02:41 AM
They don't owe you anything.
They do owe it to Sergio, though
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 11, 2022, 06:02 AM
Quote from: nicklav on Mar 11, 2022, 02:41 AM
They don't owe you anything.
They do owe it to Sergio, though
No they don't. Sergio should be thankful for the time he got though.
deftones never making the stand-in for chi a full time member was always the right thing to do.Sergio was always a hired gun, but he could never deeply understand that was where it stopped. He has not been involved in building up the band from rags to riches, just jumped onboard when the ship was already sailing.
Seems to me he got greedy for more money and titles and never fully got what the band been through and why he was there. And now he is canned. grasp all, lose all. all we got from him was gore and that retarded bassline in radiant city, good riddance
lol, that's cold. All right then
Yeah that's weird.
Although the Stef thing has nothing to do with anything either.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 11, 2022, 11:32 AM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 11, 2022, 06:02 AM
Quote from: nicklav on Mar 11, 2022, 02:41 AM
They don't owe you anything.
They do owe it to Sergio, though
No they don't. Sergio should be thankful for the time he got though.
deftones never making the stand-in for chi a full time member was always the right thing to do.Sergio was always a hired gun, but he could never deeply understand that was where it stopped. He has not been involved in building up the band from rags to riches, just jumped onboard when the ship was already sailing.
Seems to me he got greedy for more money and titles and never fully got what the band been through and why he was there. And now he is canned. grasp all, lose all. all we got from him was gore and that retarded bassline in radiant city, good riddance
Objectively awful take. Sergio revitalized this band and has been integral to the writing process at least since KNY. I can understand him being on a "hired gun" level for DE since that was his first appearance. But over a decade and three more albums? Fucking crazy. No one truly knows who is in the wrong other than the band members. But all available evidence unfortunately points to the band and not Sergio.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 11, 2022, 11:32 AM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 11, 2022, 06:02 AM
Quote from: nicklav on Mar 11, 2022, 02:41 AM
They don't owe you anything.
They do owe it to Sergio, though
No they don't. Sergio should be thankful for the time he got though.
deftones never making the stand-in for chi a full time member was always the right thing to do.Sergio was always a hired gun, but he could never deeply understand that was where it stopped. He has not been involved in building up the band from rags to riches, just jumped onboard when the ship was already sailing.
Seems to me he got greedy for more money and titles and never fully got what the band been through and why he was there. And now he is canned. grasp all, lose all. all we got from him was gore and that retarded bassline in radiant city, good riddance
Post this on the subreddit. I wanna see how many times you get downvoted lol.
While I feel a bit more sympathy for Sergio than you do, I do agree he was the most replaceable "member" of the band. If Chino or Stephen left it would immediately end the band and if Abe or Frank left it would be a tremendous blow to their sound. They can lose Sergio and still retain their sound.
Yeah I was definitely speaking to the cheap shots taken at Steph. The Sergio situation is tough, and we only have one side of the story.
Quote from: Inkblades on Mar 11, 2022, 05:15 PM
While I feel a bit more sympathy for Sergio than you do, I do agree he was the most replaceable "member" of the band. If Chino or Stephen left it would immediately end the band and if Abe or Frank left it would be a tremendous blow to their sound. They can lose Sergio and still retain their sound.
It'd be band over if Abe ever left as well. Those three always have been the core. They might carry on if Frank ever left but that would be a sore one for them too.
I don't think any of those things will happen without something drastic anyway. It's just a bit of a shame for Sergio at this stage. I think he did a very fine job coming in at a difficult time and I really like his work particularly on KNY and Ohms. I can only assume the band just never wanted to officially replace Chi. Which would be understandable. It seems like there must have been some miscommunication somewhere along the line. Sergio seemed to be contributing everything a proper band member would and maybe there were some crossed wires about what that meant 'officially'.
Anyway, most of this is just speculation. Doesn't really matter.
Ya'll know the tale of the dog who had a piece of meat in his mouth, went out on a bridge and saw his own reflection in the water,thought the piece of meat in the water looked bigger, gaped after it, and then lost the piece of meat he had. That's sergio right there. he brought it on himself. But ppl are still for serg and against deftones? smh. Maybe ppl should set up a "one love for serg" donation fund
I bet you are really nice to be around
Quote from: nicklav on Mar 11, 2022, 05:31 PM
Yeah I was definitely speaking to the cheap shots taken at Steph. The Sergio situation is tough, and we only have one side of the story.
Stef left himself wide open for ,,cheap shots". He is a tool and deserves being made fun of. I'd be hesitant to call myself a Deftones fan in public, right now. Shit's embarassing.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 12, 2022, 11:46 AM
Quote from: nicklav on Mar 11, 2022, 05:31 PM
Yeah I was definitely speaking to the cheap shots taken at Steph. The Sergio situation is tough, and we only have one side of the story.
Stef left himself wide open for ,,cheap shots". He is a tool and deserves being made fun of. I'd be hesitant to call myself a Deftones fan in public, right now. Shit's embarassing.
Sounds like a personal problem. I understand you need to broadcast your virtue but, once again, they owe narcissists like yourself nothing.
Quote from: GlimmeringMaggit on Mar 11, 2022, 06:14 PM
I can only assume the band just never wanted to officially replace Chi. Which would be understandable.
Well there you go. deftones have done something upright and honorable during all these years, yet ppl are giving them shit for it. go figure
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 12, 2022, 08:14 PM
Quote from: GlimmeringMaggit on Mar 11, 2022, 06:14 PM
I can only assume the band just never wanted to officially replace Chi. Which would be understandable.
Well there you go. deftones have done something upright and honorable during all these years, yet ppl are giving them shit for it. go figure
This is only one person's assumption. Again, the only information we have for any conclusions are Sergio's words and some shit Chino said. Absent any other information, I'm more inclined to believe what Sergio said. Stop deifying the band. While they're amazing musicians, I'm sure they're more than capable of being perfectly shitty people.
I think it's one thing when you are just filling in for live shows with the band. But when you are actually sitting down and writing records together which they have done four times. In my opinion that makes him part of the band. His Creativity and blood sweat and tears are a major part of the last four records. And I personally think they should've worked it out. We don't know the whole story so it's hard to judge what really happened.
I wonder if there will be another bass player that comes in and if they will make another record with somebody else? I hope we at least get one more record out of them.
I can sort of imagine how one would think the band owe them a statement, realistically though they never owed them anything. That's my perspective.
I was always hesitant about Sergio as a replacement but that's just me, I think the band was able to carry on in part thanks to his presence, input and involvement. Sergio went on to say he was told he'd become a full member over time and granted that's true, there's definitely a blurred line in that aspect of the situation, which I can only assume wasn't handled properly.
I do feel bummed out about the unresolved conflict, I think this reaches something a little more personal though and I don't get how people are using the ordeal as a basis to take a stand against the band. That's not to dismiss anything in the situation, I have no interest sitting in judgement.
I think it's a great thing they're going to be back on tour soon, after 2 and half years of no touring, and I'm curious about Deftones with a new bass player.
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 30, 2022, 01:33 PM
I do feel bummed out about the unresolved conflict, I think this reaches something a little more personal though and I don't get how people are using the ordeal as a basis to take a stand against the band. That's not to dismiss anything in the situation, I have no interest sitting in judgement.
There's always a strong initial backlash when shakeups like this happen, but it's already died down. Look at the subreddit now, it's mostly back to Deftones fandom like nothing even happened lol.
https://www.theprp.com/2022/04/12/news/the-mystery-of-deftones-new-touring-bassist-appears-to-have-been-solved/
officially? whispers from deftones camp?
https://www.theprp.com/2022/04/20/news/sergio-vega-speaks-further-on-leaving-deftones-reveals-his-new-project-will-feature-a-new-song-with-ex-every-time-i-die-vocalist-keith-buckley/
Quote from: Martin on Apr 21, 2022, 06:32 PM
https://www.theprp.com/2022/04/20/news/sergio-vega-speaks-further-on-leaving-deftones-reveals-his-new-project-will-feature-a-new-song-with-ex-every-time-i-die-vocalist-keith-buckley/
Sergio: "..
when I filled-in for Chi in '99—he had hurt his toe—bringing that energy and that excitement, having his back, having his band's back.
And then at one point Chino [Moreno, Deftones] comes to me and was like 'Hey, if we asked you to join the band, what would you say?' [I responded] 'I would tell you that Chi is your boy. This is fun and exciting, Chi is your boy, roll with Chi and that's gonna be great.'"What exactly does sergio mean here - that chino actually wanted to kick Chi out of the band, before his accident, and bring in sergio instead? All due to a broken toe? I find that very hard to believe. Maybe serg should just shut his face,stop trashing the band,and move on
Pretty tacky and disrespectful of Sergio to bring Chi into this. Fine to talk about whatever problems you have with the band, but leave Chi and his legacy out of it. Stuff like this is probably what Chino was alluding to when he said Sergio was outta pocket.
I think he's implying that if Chi didn't come back from the injury he would have been asked to replace him.
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 23, 2022, 03:55 PM
Pretty tacky and disrespectful of Sergio to bring Chi into this. Fine to talk about whatever problems you have with the band, but leave Chi and his legacy out of it. Stuff like this is probably what Chino was alluding to when he said Sergio was outta pocket.
No doubt in my mind
Quote from: kurtone on Apr 23, 2022, 04:44 PM
I think he's implying that if Chi didn't come back from the injury he would have been asked to replace him.
".. didn't come back from injury" - dude, he hurt a fucking toe.does that sound career ending to you? He wasn't a ballet dancer
Quote from: from_musings on Apr 23, 2022, 05:18 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 23, 2022, 03:55 PM
Pretty tacky and disrespectful of Sergio to bring Chi into this. Fine to talk about whatever problems you have with the band, but leave Chi and his legacy out of it. Stuff like this is probably what Chino was alluding to when he said Sergio was outta pocket.
No doubt in my mind
Quote from: kurtone on Apr 23, 2022, 04:44 PM
I think he's implying that if Chi didn't come back from the injury he would have been asked to replace him.
".. didn't come back from injury" - dude, he hurt a fucking toe.does that sound career ending to you? He wasn't a ballet dancer
Wasn't a seatbelt wearer either
Oof, lol.
Maybe Chi was thinking about quitting back then, maybe Chino was just fooling around, maybe Chino was annoyed at Chi for missing the shows and was being petty. Who knows? In the past, Sergio has been nothing but respectful about Chi and bringing that story up from '99 isn't disrespectful towards him in particular, either. It's more of a side jab against Chino, if anything.
Sergio on The Jasta Show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIbXLQLNo64
The Sergio Vega "I left Deftones" tell-all media tour continues! He gonna go on Oprah next?
Shiiit crazy, they are all outta pocket