Quote from: DefFsho on Today at 12:28 AMAnybody have any ideas why the version of smile that Chino gave us sounds so much more compressed or why the Eros leaked version sounds better? Maybe there was multiple recordings or whatever but for them to not go back in there and work on anything I just wonder.

My guess is he has likely made so many songs with so many different takes and different mixes throughout his 30+ year career that he likely just forgot about this version. The one he leaked was maybe the first one he found in his files, quick listen, "that works", upload.

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Quote from: DefFsho on Jun 30, 2026, 01:17 AMHoly shit! Unless I'm in the tallgrass here on this information because I don't visit here as much as I used to, wat h NOCTURNE'S video on YouTube. It was released today. He's got some messages going back-and-forth between buyers and sellers on this and it gets nasty also. It's the first I've seen it. I've been hearing about it, but he posted it in the video. This shit is wild. I'm still watching by the way.
It looks like the original buyer and seller going back-and-forth and the buyer gets a stern warning. People I've never heard of

That video added nothing new.  And it was hilariously edited. 

It was New for me. I wasn't here for it and I'm not on Reddit whatsoever. I check in here every once in a while and lurk and talk shit with everyone when there's a new record or something to talk about. I knew there was a bunch of drama going on with the seller and probably still is so I'm just trying to get in the loop. So what exactly was edited? Nocturne's video or that exchange ?

Anybody have any ideas why the version of smile that Chino gave us sounds so much more compressed or why the Eros leaked version sounds better? Maybe there was multiple recordings or whatever but for them to not go back in there and work on anything I just wonder.

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Quote from: Far away on Jun 29, 2026, 03:28 PMI listened to Melanie bc we had a live version laying around for a long ass time... I remember thinking back then it was a banger. Even tho this version is unfinished... yup, still a fucking banger.

So dope. I put it up there in my top 10.... It's classic elite Deftones material. that one could sit on adrenaline or around the fur and fit

Its not even bc its heavy, I like their heavy shit, its just so visceral. Also, loved the outro.
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Quote from: defTHE1s on Jun 29, 2026, 05:59 PMI love how you never changed your profile pic again 

speaking of, @far away, wasn't your pfp foghorn leghorn back in the day?

I honestly have no idea, lol. Maybe... ? Knowing myself, it could be true. 

Quote from: DefFsho on Jun 29, 2026, 11:22 PM

Quote from: Far away on Jun 29, 2026, 03:28 PMI listened to Melanie bc we had a live version laying around for a long ass time... I remember thinking back then it was a banger. Even tho this version is unfinished... yup, still a fucking banger.

So dope. I put it up there in my top 10.... It's classic elite Deftones material. that one could sit on adrenaline or around the fur and fit

Its not even bc its heavy, I like their heavy shit, its just so visceral. Also, loved the outro.

Visceral, yes! I like the way he sings "is it true".  And that "scatting" style I loved and feel like he doesn't use like this anymore.  The live versions that we heard I have always heard like a ringing sound coming from Frank during the last verse of the song I think but yeah, it was toward the end and it sounded great like it was naturally in the song. Maybe they just did it live because they do tend to change things live sometimes but it seems weird to do that with a song that hasn't been released yet. Did anybody else hear that? It's not on this Eros leaked version. I guess I'll go look at the date Melanie was recorded and look at the dates of those live debuts. But I'm guessing Melanie was recorded in January 2009 but was played in 08

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Can't wait for a Taco Bell ad hearing "Shove it Shove it" while displaying a burrito or taco LOL. Also could it be that a retirement or disband is imminent?

Apparently us that think a retirement may be imminent "latch onto the dumbest shit." it's just speculation for me. And I wasn't looking for answers here I was just giving my opinion. Let's hope they keep making music but for now we have quite a bit to marinate on. I knew I wasn't the only one here wondering

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Quote from: truthaddict on Jun 30, 2026, 04:23 AM"Then the third angel breathed into his horn, and a great star fell from the sky as if it was a flame of fire, and fell on a third of the rivers and the water springs. And the name of this star is "Al-Jallem". So a third of the water became bitter like a suspension, and many people died because of the bitterness of the water"!?

Beware the water

That's pretty awesome. I like what I'm hearing there when comparing it to Chino's lyrics. Yeah I think Team Sleep just edited out the two figures. What version of Saturday night wrist did not include this? This came right out of my Album jacket. It's an original CD so maybe the reissues skimped or something? That art jacket was one of if not the best in my opinion.

I've been coming to this forum since back in the day (2002?). I deleted my account, can't remember what I went by then but this was my sig. Some of yall might recognize it.

A drawing I made in 2008 for the album, Eros. I was going to add color and include the title and everything but like the album, it was scrapped.

Quote from: truthaddict on Jun 30, 2026, 04:23 AM"Then the third angel breathed into his horn, and a great star fell from the sky as if it was a flame of fire, and fell on a third of the rivers and the water springs. And the name of this star is "Al-Jallem". So a third of the water became bitter like a suspension, and many people died because of the bitterness of the water"!?

Beware the water

Quote from: DefFsho on Jun 30, 2026, 01:17 AMHoly shit! Unless I'm in the tallgrass here on this information because I don't visit here as much as I used to, wat h NOCTURNE'S video on YouTube. It was released today. He's got some messages going back-and-forth between buyers and sellers on this and it gets nasty also. It's the first I've seen it. I've been hearing about it, but he posted it in the video. This shit is wild. I'm still watching by the way.
It looks like the original buyer and seller going back-and-forth and the buyer gets a stern warning. People I've never heard of

That video added nothing new.  And it was hilariously edited.