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Subliminal

Quote from: dictatesofreason on Mar 25, 2010, 12:58 AM
true that man, i just wish chi wud get better and throw in his talent , not that im puttin down sergio, his work is excellent on the album

Chi practically wrote this whole album if you think about it. His situation has sparked a new conciousness for the band and completely brought the best in them.

Jacob

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Quote from: heythere on Mar 24, 2010, 09:07 PM
A little pissed off. I guess WB pulled all the leak links quick fast and in a fucking hurry.  I've already payed for the goddamn album and they mopped up all the links before I could get to them. Fuckers. Any chance they'll release anything else to those of us who have already purchased the album? And i mean more than that piss poor remix of rocket skates

yeah, poor you for not being able to use the internet properly.

besides, it's not your right in any way to be able to download the leak before the album comes out, or get any other bonuses just because you've already ordered it. find something else to cry about.

right, I can't use the internet properly because I'm not as adept at being some pre-pubescent pimply faced drain or some Starbucks employed idiot that steals their entertainment because I don't have an education or real job. Not exactly a logics major were you? But hey, at least your king of the interwebz! Idiot

getting the leak isn't really a challenge, that's all I'm saying.

and you're not making a good first impression there, buddy. 2 posts and 2 strikes. a third and you're out.
lol, so let me get this straight, you're threatening to ban me from an internet forum (lol) because I posted an initial frustration due to the fact that while having actually paid for the album I can't listen to it while others who have stolen it can, got a shitty response from a moderator whom I guess was trying to sound witty and i don't know......maybe.....defensive? by getting on soapbox about how WB "doesn't owe us anything," which of course had absolutely jack shit zero to do with what I had said. If you can actually follow that line of reasoning, then you're the only one and I envy you living in your own little world where you can weave together completely nonsensical, non-sequitur threads of bullshit and somehow feel empowered by it.  Wow.  IN any case, I did find it, and have since downloaded due to a helpful person on another board. So there ya go tough guy, push that manly man ban button, lol, like anyone gives a fuck. Have a nice day.

it's real easy to jump the good ol' "abuse of power" argument, huh? it's interesting how people think they can behave however the fuck they want, then when someone calls them out on it they have to make a fuss about it.

we have a no leaks policy here, so this place isn't exactly where you should be coming to cry about the leak. and having a really bad attitude and calling people idiot on top of that doesn't really make anything better. I have no reason to ban you as long as you refrain from using personal attacks as some sort of argument.
pray nightfall release me
then i could wander, wander to deep sleep

Hidalgo

yea Chino kicked this album's ass. MVP MVP MVP
Quote from: Subliminal on Mar 25, 2010, 10:29 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Mar 25, 2010, 12:58 AM
true that man, i just wish chi wud get better and throw in his talent , not that im puttin down sergio, his work is excellent on the album

Chi practically wrote this whole album if you think about it. His situation has sparked a new conciousness for the band and completely brought the best in them.
it knocked them out of the fog they were in so long and made them appreciate what they do again, with a new zest and refreshed outlook.

Subliminal

Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 25, 2010, 10:38 AM
yea Chino kicked this album's ass. MVP MVP MVP
Quote from: Subliminal on Mar 25, 2010, 10:29 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Mar 25, 2010, 12:58 AM
true that man, i just wish chi wud get better and throw in his talent , not that im puttin down sergio, his work is excellent on the album

Chi practically wrote this whole album if you think about it. His situation has sparked a new conciousness for the band and completely brought the best in them.
it knocked them out of the fog they were in so long and made them appreciate what they do again, with a new zest and refreshed outlook.

Exactly.

So it's not like this album is missing Chi's presence. This album has his name all over it, just like the rest of them.

rock_n_frost

Quote from: Subliminal on Mar 24, 2010, 11:54 PM
Funny thing is, those 'high notes' in Digital Bath, are his falsetto, just like the one in Cherry Waves where he goes 'Suuuuuuck' and the same with 976 'So I geeeeeeeeeeeeeeet'

So really, it's the same thing, just a bit lower. He can still do the Digital Bath highs man, anyone who knows how to sing in falsetto pretty much can. It's so much easier than belting highs.

yeah dude but when he yells ''geeet'' he actually doesnt use his real voice, i guess its a fake high note that even you can do..its similar to a man imitating a girl voice..

try this you ll see what i mean :

Quote from: rock_n_frost on Mar 24, 2010, 08:53 PM
but its not a even real high voice on 976 ( 1:00 to 02 and 1:18 to 20 )..i dont hear any squeal on his voice..its kinda he's faking us
check digital bath  (2:18)..That's the high note no one can reach that so easly..he did it at cherry waves too..
you know what i mean ?

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Hidalgo

#2365
i'm really proud of them, i honestly thought they'd never get out from underneath that black cloud. 03-08. don't get me wrong, they were still writing good stuff, but something wasn't right and i knew they could do better. it was like they were just going through the motions, and thought of it as their job, not their passion. still made real solid stuff, but ehhh. i been a huge fan since late 95, and i knew something was off. now they're back it seems, snapped out of that slumber, the sleeping giant has finally awoke

jesusinabowlofdirt

c'mon man, s/t got some of their best stuff on it.of course u dont like dark heavy shit like s/t when your more into songs poppy songs like hoburg hop,linus, freaks and gift etc that doesnt make s/t a bad or lack of passion, you just have goofy taste thats all ;)

besides that, diamond eyes is great, def top 3

Subliminal

Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 25, 2010, 11:14 AM
i'm really proud of them, i honestly thought they'd never get out from underneath that black cloud. 03-08. don't get me wrong, they were still writing good stuff, but something wasn't right and i knew they could do better. it was like they were just going through the motions, and thought of it as their job, not their passion. still made real solid stuff, but ehhh. i been a huge fan since late 95, and i knew something was off. now they're back it seems, snapped out of that slumber, the sleeping giant has finally awoke

I agree, S/T and SNW times were definitely dark. They were slowly coming out of it with SNW. But I think it's down to their attitude and outlook on the band. Like you said, it became their job, simply because their label sucks ass. But now they're going full pelt, despite this and all of the issues they once had, are gone. It's all about the experience and the art. How it was before the aftermath of White Ponys huge success kicked in.

Subliminal

#2368
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Mar 25, 2010, 11:03 AM
Quote from: Subliminal on Mar 24, 2010, 11:54 PMFunny thing is, those 'high notes' in Digital Bath, are his falsetto, just like the one in Cherry Waves where he goes 'Suuuuuuck' and the same with 976 'So I geeeeeeeeeeeeeeet'

So really, it's the same thing, just a bit lower. He can still do the Digital Bath highs man, anyone who knows how to sing in falsetto pretty much can. It's so much easier than belting highs.

yeah dude but when he yells ''geeet'' he actually doesnt use his real voice, i guess its a fake high note that even you can do..its similar to a man imitating a girl voice..

try this you ll see what i mean :

Quote from: rock_n_frost on Mar 24, 2010, 08:53 PMbut its not a even real high voice on 976 ( 1:00 to 02 and 1:18 to 20 )..i dont hear any squeal on his voice..its kinda he's faking us
check digital bath  (2:18)..That's the high note no one can reach that so easly..he did it at cherry waves too..
you know what i mean ?



Yeah, the falsetto.. a lot of people use it when they can not full pelt a note anymore. I guess that's what happens when you've been recording/playing shows for 20 odd years.

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 11:07 AM...

They're the same, Chino is NOT belting that note in Digital Bath.

Hidalgo

Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 25, 2010, 11:17 AM
c'mon man, s/t got some of their best stuff on it.of course u dont like dark heavy shit like s/t when your more into songs poppy songs like hoburg hop,linus, freaks and gift etc that doesnt make s/t a bad or lack of passion, you just have goofy taste thats all ;)

besides that, diamond eyes is great, def top 3
i like s/t though, remember. just least of deftones stuff. but i'm not a casual deftones fan, i'm a crazed diehard so i really like everything they've done. i'm bias, i like all their shit. pcp idiot version sucks, but just cause that IP schmuck ruined it

Subliminal

Deftones - Digital Bath @ NBC

Deftones - Digital Bath (live)

I don't see him belting.. I see him using his falsetto :) Cause once you hit that high note, you can push it and it's almost like making a high pitched wail of a cat.

I don't know if you sing, but I have the same range as Chino/Matt Bellamy (Muse) and belting that high note in Digital Bath just takes it out of you..

Oh no wait, I'm tone deaf.  :D

Jacob

I don't hear that much of a difference. his voice is a bit more rough in Digital Bath. probably has more to do with effects than anything else.
pray nightfall release me
then i could wander, wander to deep sleep

Subliminal

#2372
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 11:40 AM...

I can and that's what I'm trying to tell you lol because as soon as he says ''Feel Like'' I can hear the switch in his voice as he's about to push out 'More' and I hear/feel the same thing when I sing it myself. But you're the Master vocalist, so ok.. he's belting the note :)

Subliminal

#2373
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 11:47 AM...

Sounds the same to me, just a different effect over his voice than the one on Digital Bath. It's a lot more echoey and distant.

Like you said, I'm tone deaf, so it doesn't matter.

Subliminal

#2374
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 11:50 AM...

I just did? :) We could argue about it all day, but it really doesn't matter. The only thing that spurred me into the arguement is because people always bang on about Chino's vocals being weaker. Yet his range has hardly changed, the only thing that ever affected it was his weight at the time. Since he was clearly unhealthy after getting off the coke. Which he admitted himself in his interview with Kerrang ages back.

If either of us get to meet him from this point on.. maybe we should just be trivial and ask him if it's a belter or a falsetto note, just for clarification ;)

Sett

I am surprised that so many people dislike the ST. I can not think for a bad song in it. As to the new album, I am becoming addicted to it.

rock_n_frost

#2376
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 11:47 AM...
true that, he did it at ''bored'' and root's end, too..
There's obvious difference between ''feel like'' and ''so i get''
pitch is the same but vocal trick is not

btw you guys are smart, its a musical arguement..do it till the end of the end
i really wanna to see your opinions..

ves can you record your voice for this two parts ?
first try to sing the real high note for ''feel like more'' and then try the belter note
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You used to call me on my cellphone

Subliminal

#2377
^ I'll be up for that Rock_N_Frost

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 11:58 AM...


Doesn't sound like it on this album, he sounds like he does on White Pony. But yes, Birthmark is a prime example of his head voice.. when he was practically a kid.

But yes I was being serious.

jesusinabowlofdirt

#2378
Quote from: Sett on Mar 25, 2010, 11:57 AM
I am surprised that so many people dislike the ST. I can not think for a bad song in it.

s/t is one of their finest work with terry date and snw is their shittiest stuff,done with ezrin and lopez... thats why i just hate when people lump those two records together because they sound nothing like each other.

so what if the band went through bad times during the making of the two, music wise theyre very distant from each other.

as for the new album.. im trying my best not to over play it too much... such great stuff.. i get all dizzy thinking of it. but boy did it leak too early  :-\

Sett