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Kerrang! Interview - 28/4/2010

Started by S, Apr 28, 2010, 10:04 AM

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Law

They should be more careful then!

yeah

They worked on that ~3 months... as it's been said numerous times previously.

White Wrist


aj

I agree with him. Impatience of the masses has killed art.

I for one shall be glad on Friday when I pick up the CD, smell the artwork, analyse the booklet and listen to the album for the first time.

theis


iceache

You know , it just popped into my mind.. once albums go 100% digital.. I bet early leaks will stop.

wondermixx

Quote from: iceache on Apr 28, 2010, 04:20 PM
You know , it just popped into my mind.. once albums go 100% digital.. I bet early leaks will stop.

that would suck ass man! theres nothing better than having the real deal..

fetisher

Quote from: theis on Apr 28, 2010, 11:58 AM
Quote from: aj on Apr 28, 2010, 11:37 AM
Impatience of the masses has killed art.

Truth.

Indeed.  I'm guilty of it as well.   :-[

Urantia23

Quote from: White Wrist on Apr 28, 2010, 11:16 AM
fast internet connection!

LOL

Quote from: yeah on Apr 28, 2010, 10:37 AM
They worked on that ~3 months... as it's been said numerous times previously.

right


Starz

Quote from: aj on Apr 28, 2010, 11:37 AM
I for one shall be glad on Friday when I pick up the CD, smell the artwork, analyse the booklet and listen to the album for the first time.

Excuse my ignorance..but how come you get the CD on Friday?

M1GHTY M4VS

Quote from: Starz on Apr 28, 2010, 04:56 PM
Quote from: aj on Apr 28, 2010, 11:37 AM
I for one shall be glad on Friday when I pick up the CD, smell the artwork, analyse the booklet and listen to the album for the first time.

Excuse my ignorance..but how come you get the CD on Friday?

Germany has the release date on April 30 for DE

raynor

Quote from: theis on Apr 28, 2010, 11:58 AM
Quote from: aj on Apr 28, 2010, 11:37 AM
Impatience of the masses has killed art.

Truth.

Couldn't agree less really. Good music will always be good music and downloading albums has helped me get into pretty much all the bands I listen to today. I don't think Diamond Eyes, or any other album, is more enjoyable when listening though a pair of headphones on your mp3-player or listening to it on a CD.

S

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jesusinabowlofdirt

subliminal has been arguing for deftones leaking the record themsleves and that it is good for them, and now he is acting like he hasnt and now he is refering to the leaker as a "cunt"...  is this guy for real..

S

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Moz

This is one of the best 'Tones interviews ever.

Stuff about Eros, stuff about recording Diamond Eyes, the stuff about Chi... it's enough to get emotional. And very uplifting too: Chino pinpoints exactly what was missing on the previous two records in my opinion. The fact that he flat out states things like 'we weren't trying hard enough' and 'we had to save the band, our career'... it puts them waaaay up in my respect book. wow.

edit: thanks Subliminal, hard work but it's worth it. I don't think Kerrang dramatised it much though, most of the drama is from the mouth of Chino himself.

fetisher

Quote from: raynor on Apr 28, 2010, 06:01 PM
Quote from: theis on Apr 28, 2010, 11:58 AM
Quote from: aj on Apr 28, 2010, 11:37 AM
Impatience of the masses has killed art.
Truth.
Couldn't agree less really. Good music will always be good music and downloading albums has helped me get into pretty much all the bands I listen to today. I don't think Diamond Eyes, or any other album, is more enjoyable when listening though a pair of headphones on your mp3-player or listening to it on a CD.

Like you, I have been introduced to many a song/album online in <insert forum here>.  Though I don't think that's entirely the point aj was making when he/she said that impatience has killed art.  I could be wrong, however. 

My take on the statement is that our instant-gratification, now-now-now, internet society has (at the very least) without argument destroyed the classic album experience.  Which is kind of sad for those of us old enough to remember sitting at our radio with a cassette tape, finger on record, ready to tape the song you just requested on the radio because the album doesn't come out for another two weeks.  And maybe that was a form of impatience too, but at least it was impatience that you had to fucking work for, as opposed to downloading the full CD quality album a month early in three minutes. 

Sometimes that asshole DJ would never even play your request.   ;D

You know, there is something to be said for waiting for something.  Impatience is not a good quality.  And what's happening in our society, especially with regard to audio releases (and film as well) is that there's this standard being set, for being impatient.  It's become the absolute norm, to expect something to be leaked early.  And I feel like that's just setting a really bad precedent.

There's all this fucking demand for the newest thing.  People's attention spans would put a goldfish to shame, anymore.  And what happens with a situation like that is, someone will see the opportunity to take advantage of the situation.  It's usually some corporation ready to bleed it for all it's worth.  The powers that be (be it production companies, record companies, etc...) are more than obliged to take the reigns.  Create focus groups and establish target audiences.  'Discover' new 'talent' and market and sell them.  They'll identify what will make money and what will not, and they will absolutely flood the market with it.

And I'm not knocking the process.  It's a business, and it serves a purpose.  The real problem is that the demand is there.  That's the unfortunate thing, and the reason why these companies succeed as well as they do.  And it's precisely because of our impatience and insatiable need for something new, that this is able to happen.  When people submit to this behavior as the norm, they sacrifice quality for mediocrity.  They get entertainment, instead of art. 

That is what is destroying art.

And I'm not even knocking mindless entertainment.  Mindless entertainment is great.  But only when it's not at the expense of art.  When it doesn't set a precedent of mediocrity.  You know, when Brittany Spears is known the world over, but only three people I know have ever heard of The Cocteau Twins, that's a bad thing.  It's truly sad, in my humble opinon.

That said, I downloaded DE.  Ha!

I was part of the problem on this one (I typically purchase my music).  But I'm trying to change.   ;D

fetisher

Quote from: Moz on Apr 28, 2010, 08:12 PM
This is one of the best 'Tones interviews ever.

Yes, it was.  Nice read.  Thanks for posting.

Moz

Quote from: fetisher on Apr 28, 2010, 08:16 PMstuff

nice read.

I once was the ultimate internet consumer. downloading music and movies. then at one point I realised I never really ENJOYED listening or watching something. I always was in a hurry to get to the next thing. same with buying too much games, you dont have time to appreciate the stuff you're playing.

now I only download music to check out new bands that I don't know about. or if I really can't wait for it because it's one of my favourite bands (like the 'Tones). And if I like it I buy it. But I don't buy too much... don't want to oversaturate myself.

put simply, I want to collect stuff, but in a most minimalistic way possible. only the stuff I really want.