LIES (Nu-Metal) - "Reborn" & "All Our Apologies" Video Clip

[Benhanced]

Hello!

LIES is introducing the video clip of the second Single "All Our Apologies" from the new album "From The Ashes Of Our World":
http://youtu.be/oirqCG1gBNU

Again it's all homemade yeah!
I'll be glad to answer to any of your comment/reaction.

Ben.

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Hello!

I'm posting this new topic to present you my Band called LIES.
We play some kind of Nu-Metal music, and we've just released our second album called "From The Ashes Of Our World" (signed with Send The Wood Music).

We've put online the video clip of the first single "Reborn":
http://youtu.be/gZ8eom8qQEU

You will find eveything else here:
http://www.lies-music.org/

Thanks for your attention and any reaction.
ENJOY

Ben.

[Jacob]

you look like Joel McHale.

[Benhanced]

Yes...it's me!!
I thought no one would have recognized me...Arf

[Benhanced]

No seriously, I didn't know about this actor, but I found some pictures and...you're not wrong 

[theis]

Music (and video) reminds me of Mudvayne.

Btw, that's not a compliment.

[Slacker]

Music (and video) reminds me of Mudvayne.

Btw, that's not a compliment.

haha. i like mudvayne.

nice proyect dude i dig it. nice production, and cool video.

i appreciate the vocal work too, nice backings and 2nd voices.

[Benhanced]

Thanks Slacker!
Really glad you appreciated our work especially as it's all homemade.

[Benhanced]

Hello!

As promised, I've updated the main post of this topic with our new video clip of the single "All Our Apologies".

ENJOY!

[DeftonesNZ]

Music (and video) reminds me of Mudvayne.

Btw, that's not a compliment.

Fuck yes I knew it reminded me of something, it sounds like it's from like 2000 when bands like Staind and Drowning Pool were real popular, Also about the video say away from explosions and too much green screen is you have a low budget.

[Benhanced]

Music (and video) reminds me of Mudvayne.

Btw, that's not a compliment.

Fuck yes I knew it reminded me of something, it sounds like it's from like 2000 when bands like Staind and Drowning Pool were real popular, Also about the video say away from explosions and too much green screen is you have a low budget.

Hi!

Thanks for your comment.
Apart from the fact that this video doesn't take itself so seriously, the next ones will be out of trying special effects, but more focused on real video picturing and filming like a short film  .

[DeftonesNZ]

Yeah they're are very good for home done but people are just used to big budget CGI now I guess, also that second reminds me alot of this one from a NZ band in 2002 with the whole white suit science theme with pop ups, Any influence or is this new to you?

http://youtu.be/gmHI8zp30Es

[Benhanced]

Yeah you're right, people are so used to big budget, and are used to see bands with huge marketing strength and lot of tools around the main subject of a band: the music.
That's why even a new little band has to come with at least a video clip to get people interest.

By the way I didn't know about Blindspott. And yeah our video "Reborn" is well close to their one.
My guitarist has done the whole post work for the videos, I will ask him if he knew about this band and video clip, maybe he found the concept great to bring it on our video

[An bád dubh]

Hey, just a quick comment on these videos and songs:

Checked "Reborn" first and got a feeling of hearing some Chevelle in there. And that is a compliment. Your production and even the very well done videos suggest that you guys have a chance to make it big time. Therefore I as a listener can be demanding and have to compare you to bands who have made it commercially Hence I will say that I would have a high threshold of checking you guys out any further. You would need to upload your full album to this thread for me (and probably a few others) to actually check it out. I would check it if its one click away. On the contrary to lets say a new album from any of my favorite bands would be worth searching for. Thats just how it is, an abundance of good music raises the threshold to check out new music further than a video or two.

Anyways, checked "All our apologies" too and the video and production were again very good. The song itself, as was "Reborn", was ok and in no way inferior to any other "Nu-metal" -bands' songs (as you call yourselves and probably correctly so). What Im saying is that you guys need that one big break, probably some money behind you (a record label which can put you out there), because you really need some publicity. Or maybe you already have it, can I ask you guys, are you visible in some press, radio, whatever similar? How many gigs do you do a year? This isnt 2002 though so its tough for Nu-metal bands to break through. But you never know, you guys are putting all on the line it seems, at least based on your videos. Putting yourselves out there, giving it a shot, at least it feels like that.

Thanks for posting the videos, keep em coming. And keep us updated on what happens to you, would be cool to see you make it big time.

[Benhanced]

Hey, just a quick comment on these videos and songs:

Checked "Reborn" first and got a feeling of hearing some Chevelle in there. And that is a compliment. Your production and even the very well done videos suggest that you guys have a chance to make it big time. Therefore I as a listener can be demanding and have to compare you to bands who have made it commercially Hence I will say that I would have a high threshold of checking you guys out any further. You would need to upload your full album to this thread for me (and probably a few others) to actually check it out. I would check it if its one click away. On the contrary to lets say a new album from any of my favorite bands would be worth searching for. Thats just how it is, an abundance of good music raises the threshold to check out new music further than a video or two.

Anyways, checked "All our apologies" too and the video and production were again very good. The song itself, as was "Reborn", was ok and in no way inferior to any other "Nu-metal" -bands' songs (as you call yourselves and probably correctly so). What Im saying is that you guys need that one big break, probably some money behind you (a record label which can put you out there), because you really need some publicity. Or maybe you already have it, can I ask you guys, are you visible in some press, radio, whatever similar? How many gigs do you do a year? This isnt 2002 though so its tough for Nu-metal bands to break through. But you never know, you guys are putting all on the line it seems, at least based on your videos. Putting yourselves out there, giving it a shot, at least it feels like that.

Thanks for posting the videos, keep em coming. And keep us updated on what happens to you, would be cool to see you make it big time.

Hello!

First of all, thanks a lot for your interesting and motivating reaction

No pb to be linked to a feeling close to Chevelle, this band is one of my favorite, one of the best middle ground between Rock and Metal to my opinion and tastes.
It's really gratifying to know that we can be considered in a kind same level than bands who have made it commercially.
Well, we're working hard to let us do it too, even the bad context for what I will finally call "Post Nu Metal". Well, maybe not so bad, because we see that mainstreams in musics often change radically each 10 years, often to come back to new mainstreams based from old ones.

We first do the music we like, in a natural way, but I think that there is still and there will still be a place for our genre of music, because it's mixing a lot of influences in the same package, remaining really accessible for a large range of people (that's also for this main point that Nu Metal was so discredited and in a full term hated by a big part of the pure Metal community...).
By the way, just ending a little campaign of prospection for Nu Metal communities, I found out that almost 80% of people still really loving Nu Metal and still searching for new stuffs related to this music where linked to the hispanic nations, in particular Latin America (I guess that the band Ill Niño has been more than a simple famous band there, but a real state of culture). So maybe we'll have to look in this direction to get a larger amount of people interest...

To answer to your question, yes we're signed on a Label for the new album. It's a modest Label but leading few bands with more than a simple potentiel I think.
But right, in a realist point of vue, we would need a better financial potential to help us to be more spread...
The band has already toured a lot for the first album in Europe with Stuck Mojo. But as you say with sense, it's even tough now, and we're working on finding new shows to play the new album. A tour is on work with the Label too, for September-November 2013, but I think it will be more around France area, but our music doesn't really match the actual French tastes for Rock/Metal music.

So we're working to get in touch with some Booking agencies and others contacts that will help us to be spread and to be able to play shows.

We're are signed, so first people need to buy our album or songs to get our music, but as we know that we'll have better chance if we let our music be spread easier, we let many plateformes giving links to download for free, like this one:
http://livenumetal.es/lies-from-the-ashes-of-our-world-2013/

But if you want a snapshot of new stuff,  you can enjoy & share those 2 others songs coming from our last album too:

"Somewhere":
http://youtu.be/CGMyaWeGaBo

"Your Fear":
http://youtu.be/MkzzuHGPN2A

And this unreleased track "Have a cigar" (Pink Floyd cover)
http://youtu.be/gV3Qqi6uVuo

You may like a collaboration I've done with the electro artist called Rofar:
http://youtu.be/StyxmeyYa2U

And if after that you're not bored (lol), you can check some of my vocal covers on my Youtube Channel (there is one of chevelle by the way ):
http://www.youtube.com/user/benouble/videos

Cheers from France.
Ben from LIES.

[An bád dubh]

Good thoughts. I too have noticed that especially hispanic nations really into metal music, all types of metal music. As you said, Ill Nino is probably a great example for the nu metal side. Whereas let's say in Germany the majority of the bands who make it play some sort of stadion rock/pop rock. And Im talking about the bands who are bubbling under, the bands who might be big in their own country only (if even there). Thats why many bands from Finland are really popular in Germany.

Lets take as an example a popular band on these boards, Dredg. Hardly a very know band in the US or the rest of the world but very popular in Germany. I was visiting Germany to watch their gig back in 2009 and coincidentally their song "Information" was playing on the background of a weather report on TV. Just an example but its rather odd how some in countries a certain type of music has more commercial possibilities than in some other countries.

Nordic countries are also metal-loving nations. I'd say Norway and Finland especially, but thats just because Sweden and Denmark are seemingly more varied in their own music production. I've come to see that the foreign music that becomes popular to the people of a certain country usually reflects the local musical production and bands. If I were to make Chanson I would more likely become popular in France than lets say in Germany

Long story short, I think you are correct in thinking that you should think about certain countries to focus at first with gaining a fanbase. Also, I think you are correct in trusting that your style of music will come back to the mainstream (as it was huge 10-15 years ago).

You found a fitting band to tour with on your first album too, Stuck Mojo was one of my favorite bands back in the late 90s. So you have somehow crawled your way into that with your first album, which suggests that you could tour with someone even bigger next. And like you said, France is tough with your type of music. On the positive side, if you get big there it will be easier to get big anywhere.

Thanks for posting all the new stuff! I checked the next songs and the Chevelle cover as well as some Leaving Paris stuff as I looked for some live material. You have any live material on Lies shows? Will check the full album which you posted next.

If you or your record label are planning any shows in Finland, I could give you a hand on finding the right person to contact. You probably wont need that but who knows!

[An bád dubh]

Ok, listened the album through a couple of times, some of my thoughts:

- Altogether a solid album, I recommend others on this board to take a stab at it
- Deal With It sounds like an early ca 1993 Korn track, was really cool
- Some more songs sound like Chevelle, again as a compliment
- Better off Alone was aggressive and fun
- Good moments all over the album

The good thing is that, if I leave out the commercial possibilities that I have been focusing on, the actual album is just great. Reminded me a lot of Digital Summer's album "Cause and Effect" from 2007 as well as Opus Dai's album "Tierra Tragame" from 2006. And Chevelle's album "Vena Sera" from 2007 (which is my favorite from them). Those are some of my favorite rock albums so one could say that I really liked this album.

Im just one guy but I will say that you guys can make it big time.

[DeftonesNZ]

Sorry but as far as making the big time goes I just don't thinks it's possible with nu-metal anymore that's been done and gone for years now you might have a small dedicated fan base but you will struggle to get anymore because people have seen it done before, you need to have something different so that when people hear your song on the radio they instantly go and find out what it was, try to take influences from the nu-metal bands you like and work it in with your own style instead.

Sorry if this offends you but I thought I should say something because metal has a big portion of the market share down here and I know that it would still really struggle here and I know if you struggle here you would have no show most other places, it's just that the style has aged look at the bands and songs others are comparing it too there's nothing recent but you guys are good musicians eventually you'll work your own style out.

[Benhanced]

Ok, listened the album through a couple of times, some of my thoughts:

- Altogether a solid album, I recommend others on this board to take a stab at it
- Deal With It sounds like an early ca 1993 Korn track, was really cool
- Some more songs sound like Chevelle, again as a compliment
- Better off Alone was aggressive and fun
- Good moments all over the album

The good thing is that, if I leave out the commercial possibilities that I have been focusing on, the actual album is just great. Reminded me a lot of Digital Summer's album "Cause and Effect" from 2007 as well as Opus Dai's album "Tierra Tragame" from 2006. And Chevelle's album "Vena Sera" from 2007 (which is my favorite from them). Those are some of my favorite rock albums so one could say that I really liked this album.

Im just one guy but I will say that you guys can make it big time.

Sorry for the late reply, I'm working on voices and producing for few new songs, so I don't have a lot of time coming back home late after day work Hell Pfffuiiii
Well, I'm really glad to read your words, and that's one of the reasons I'm still posting in forum, because through a discussion can grow a real exchange and contact.
So whatever if a hundred people don't like or don't give a shit if one is reached as you do.

That's a good thing to know that you would be ok for at least a basic supply if we need to get good contacts in Finland. I think this will be the case, and I hope soon, because we're starting the prospection for shows. Hispanic countries as we said will be some of the targets, but the east and north ones too like Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway...

Meanwhile we've planned a lot of new songs and video work to keep a constant activity on LIES platforms.

And as long I will have the time to, I will often update some news about released new stuffs on the places I have already posted.
We're really active on our Facebook page too, relaying news about us (reviews, articles, interviews, radio broadcasts, shows etc...).

Cheers!!!

[Benhanced]

Sorry but as far as making the big time goes I just don't thinks it's possible with nu-metal anymore that's been done and gone for years now you might have a small dedicated fan base but you will struggle to get anymore because people have seen it done before, you need to have something different so that when people hear your song on the radio they instantly go and find out what it was, try to take influences from the nu-metal bands you like and work it in with your own style instead.

Sorry if this offends you but I thought I should say something because metal has a big portion of the market share down here and I know that it would still really struggle here and I know if you struggle here you would have no show most other places, it's just that the style has aged look at the bands and songs others are comparing it too there's nothing recent but you guys are good musicians eventually you'll work your own style out.

No offends, no pb, I completely understand what you mean
You may right or wrong, it's just a matter of point of vue.

I won't debate each time on this argument that our music is like "over dated" or really not "bringing something new".
Because on this and word-for-word, you're certainly right.
But it's not an ill fate that make people don't like you. Just a way little harder and with less propulsion to get or to lead into a mainstream.

From my point of vue, maybe you're too focused on generations that have already known Nu Metal when it first rose. But as this music is really accessible, the next generations could find it as something new, and maybe they will be interested in bands who first created this genre and the others already famous ones. But if they like, they will expect to go to some actual Nu Metal shows, and will be focused on bands that are still alive and with fresh activity.
As the place is well deserted now, there is a place to take.

As a matter of culture, I think it's wrong to think that some genres should die only because there are 5, 10 or 15 years old. It's normal and beneficial that new genres appear, but I think culture will be sublimated if we can add music genres instead of killing one to say hello to the next.
I think that new generations are able to like all types of music, and that we'd rather feel concerned to make happen that there is still bands emerging to represent everyone of them.
And what makes me support this argument is the lot of requests we have from people from young generations discovering our music with new ears, seem that they don't even know about Nu Metal history...
And finally, we're not really Nu metal (like Rap/Hip-hop mixed with metal), but more "Post Nu Metal" then

It's only my point of vue, I don't own the main truth