he sang this exceptionally well

[deftonekid]

ohhh so liking linkin park makes you gay i get it

YES !..............

[defTHE1s]

back to the topic...

EPIC BIZARRE Hell yeah

and very emotive what happens in Lotion jaja... 

Chino "WHAT THE FUCK!!!!"
"I FEEL SICK, RIGH HERE!!!!"

awesome...

[rock_n_frost]

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i think it wasnt that concert..this 98'   you are talking about 2000 i guess

[lungdamage]

back to the topic...

EPIC BIZARRE Hell yeah

and very emotive what happens in Lotion jaja... 

Chino "WHAT THE FUCK!!!!"
"I FEEL SICK, RIGH HERE!!!!"

awesome...

yeah, that guy was trying to rip a part off his shirt of for the whole song. i'm surprised he didn't lay into him harder hahaha. epic how he lays it out in between lines without skipping a note... and that show is also awesome because it it is pouring and he hits the rails shitloads

[UrZ*]

lotion @ the spaceland gig or whatever?.. that was some sick shit..

oh and you wanna see him sing? look @ root from bamboozle left..that first high note..damn he even does the full thing (a bit of cheating taking a breath in the middle) but still, never seen him done that live!

[UrZ*]

yeah i did..that lotion was sick..intense man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QOFIdzuHuA
I don't hear it... yeaaaah... suuummer(?)..

You show me? oh and most of the song chino was offkey

[UrZ*]

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nah it's funny, that everyone goes like chino was way better back then..it's just not true, listen to the root from bamboozle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7twVxpBC8&feature=related

more control, technique, clearer and he's listening to the notes better... people just think he sang so much better back then because he was fucking up the stage...visual you know..his movement and actions made it more intense than it actually was..

[UrZ*]

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dude do you sing like that for 2.5hours a day 5 days a week??? I played with people that DID (yeah they can't anymore)... chino had a breakdown with his voice. I think that you'll be more careful after that...

Listen to the screaming after the bridge in WGTB @ Pinkpop 2006.. or the screaming part in nosebleed @ Family Values.

Speaking about FV, the screaming in nosebleed almost turns in to statter at a certain point.. he can scream like he did, he's just careful. He knows his voice is his income and he can't fuck it up (+ i don't think he's all that mad anymore)

oh and you shouldn't listen to those on youtube, crappy audio.. i'm pumpin it from the tv-recording on a big ass kenwood amp with a nice 16band EQ ^^

[UrZ*]

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Uhm... you didn't really read what i said did you?...he's just conserving his voice, he's matured and sobered up.. (screaming full on your glottis is easier when you're intoxicated...)

And i dindn't mean that inhale, i was doing that 10 years ago (so i know what it is..for chino just another trick to conserve his voice ).. i mean the part after that... the interlude, inhale and then....... DON"T SPEAK , DON'T SAY NOTHING.. (always funny when you write it down, makes me think of nodoubt)..

The screaming on headup (2nd or 3rd verse) of the same show is soooooo brutal feels like the earth is trembling.. and still nosebleed check out the pitch of that.

(oh and i know the rest of that headup is crappy, bad stamina)

[UrZ*]

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he still does, but the moments are sparse (like the family values nosebleed I WILL COME...that's the sickest screaming i've ever heard from anyone)..

 like i said try screaming after 3-4 beers goes easier...chino drinks 10 he starts to scream insane, but his singing is slurred and offkey. Like the one u just upped, again the high note was ...

+ like i said he's a bit more mature and knows what the consequenses can be.. I'd rather have him singing better then screaming insane (like 2003era) but not being able to sing one decent note.

unowutimean?

[Penicks]

Come on, Chino's voice was way better back then.

[rock_n_frost]

Come on, Chino's voice was way better back then.

here my man tell the truth again...


chino doesnt wanna push it...doesnt wanna lose his voice again...thats why he makes that cat screams

[jesusinabowlofdirt]

Come on, Chino's voice was way better back then.

here my man tell the truth again...


chino doesnt wanna push it...doesnt wanna lose his voice again...thats why he makes that cat screams

cat screams, eagle screams,piggy screams.. man that dude can sound like any animal out there.

and debating weather or not chino's voice was better before or not is a total waste of time.anyone with functional ears can hear his voice was damaged for eternity after late 2000/beginning of 2001

[No More Sugar]

Of course his screaming voice was better 10 years ago... at least then he could hold a fucking scream. he'll never be able to duplicate himself. and he'll never get it back, so he's stuck doing pig squeals. all his screams up until when they started playing self titled tracks were pretty damn good.

and yeah, there's a video him performing hexagram at pinkpop i think it was in 2003, and that has some decent vocals. but his singing voice was 100% better 10-15 years ago, even jumping around on stage.

[No More Sugar]

yeah lol i meant the first verse

[defTHE1s]

I dunno if i'm right, but maybe also he can't reach the notes because of the weight he has gained since 2003 to late 2008.... you know, trying to hit high notes and be on constant movement onstage, a fat man gets too fucking tired doing that!!!
and now he's a lil' thin again, he can do those high notes again... but really dunno if that's a good point to explain...
so don't get me wrong...

[No More Sugar]

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Def. Agree with that. Can't go wrong with Bloody Cape, it's like the Deftones Secret weapon imo (if he can even perform it well) hahaha

@defTHE1s - That's also a very good possibility for Chino as an individual, however I don't think weight has much to do with your vocal chords, it just has more to do with your lung power, and how much air you can put out while keeping control. (as well as the factors of his stage presence like you said)

[rock_n_frost]

i think his worst times was 2005...check this out, even i can sing better :
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this is last year....not a real live performance but that shows when he really uses his voice :

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of course his best voice was 10-15 years ago...

also this is rob's 11/11, may be you didnt see :
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[UrZ*]

rocknfrost,.. that is them screaming pretty live and unedited? not even some effects (reverb or w.e.)..too bad the screaming is too loud for the cam...

but you guys need to watch...
and use your fucking ears for once..djeez...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t151_Frv4k

3.15 (and listen to the response from the crowd?)

show me someone else doing that (glotis) or chino doing THAT in the nineties? it's almost unreal ehtereal sounding..

Yeah...real bad screaming,... (sarcasm)

oh lets compare it to 2003 pinkpop show..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Rlc0HwC88&feature=related
lol..c'mon u guys? that's not chino screaming...that's him doing something that sounds more like that gay-ass "grunting" metalbands do...gay-ass shit

[Penicks]

Don't forget he was high as a kite there.

Pinkpop 2003's where my favorite Korea performance is at.