No SNW

[snw9]

Chino envisioned a witch with an army,i.e. the meaning behind Riviere. doesnt sound depressing but rather scary..and indeed it was Speed that Chino was on during SNW.
I think Beware wouldn't be a bad song to play since it doesnt have a personal feel to it. its about temptations and tryin to stay away from it.

[beansandcornbread]

They do Beware great live as well.  One of my favorites.

[Law]

I'd much rather them they play music from their other albums, as quite frankly that album is very weak compared to the others, perhaps apart from Beware and HITE. So at Download I was happy with them leaving out SNW, give me Birthmark anyday.

[rufas]

The lack of any SNW songs is a shame in the current tour but I'm sure that will change as they go into 2011 and will change up the set list.

I love SNW, it's probably the most negative of all albums in terms of imagery and lyrics, but there are some proper shredders on there like Rats! and I love the ambience of Hole in The Earth and Beware (the latter being an excellent live track) Cherry Waves has got to be one of their most 'complete' songs in terms of songwriting too, a definite predecessor to sextape on the new LP.

All of the recent interviews have emphasised just how happy they are as a band to have got the new material out, with a reluctance to look behind them. It would be very logical that at the start of the tour they all said 'fuck the SNW songs for now' so there is a 100% fresh mentality in the setlist, playing often 7, 8 songs off the new album and then the more popular choice cuts from the older LP

I'm sure when Deftones start playing headline shows again post - Black Diamond Skye tour - in bigger halls and venues - they will change and expand the setlist again, and I'm sure Hole in the Earth and Beware will return to be staple set list material.

On a side note, I swear on the 2003 tour (specifically europe / UK) they were playing an instrumental version of 'Pink Cellphone' on theatre PA systems in between bands? I used to be really ghey for being on the barrier back then so would stand through sometimes 2+ hours of music being played off the PA, and I know that deftones make their own mix tapes to play, and as soon as I heard Pink Cellphone I remembered it... it would make sense it was played around that time too before SNW was released .... can anyone confirm this?

[Penicks]

Yeah, they can't really make the arguement "we play what the fans love" anymore. I'm sure they notice the crowd's reaction when they play a rare song. They make it easy for themselves, I guess.

[wheresmysnare]

SNW was shit hence they dont play it

[raynor]

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quite true though.

really, you're guys are digging way to deep into this shit, as with most things.

[raynor]

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We're on a forum, remember ?
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Haha true. But really I don't think they're too fond of it.

[TheShade1989]

You know, with SNW they were going through a hard time and everything, but I think that'd make for really amazing live performances, if they can capture those emotions and portray them through their songs. I mean, they do anyways, but I just think that'd be the plus side to them playing songs that for the most part they dont really seem to wanna play, for personal reasons.

[sing blue silver]

You know, with SNW they were going through a hard time and everything, but I think that'd make for really amazing live performances, if they can capture those emotions and portray them through their songs. I mean, they do anyways, but I just think that'd be the plus side to them playing songs that for the most part they dont really seem to wanna play, for personal reasons.

i think playing any song you don't particularly want to play hinders the performance because you don't put everything into it. i know whenever i'm playing songs i don't really want to it gets a bit tedious. i just don't think the band is as confident about that material which is crazy because, personally, i think it's a goddamn impressive album. still i miss hearing rats rats rats and rapture live. those songs were huge.

[tarkil]

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That might be a stupid guess, but you know, maybe Sergio didn't learn like all the songs, that's why it's "easier" to play the same batch of songs everywhere. I'm not saying that's the case, but that could explain a bit of it too...

[VictorPL]

i love SNW, sometimes I think it might actually be my favorite deftones album which might be weird to some people. a year ago in amsterdam they played HITE and beware if I remember correct, it was great, maybe even xerces but cant remember anymore. i dont get why most people think this album sucks, i think its just as good as the rest of their albums. rapture, beware, combat, cherry waves, riviere, xerces, mein, kimdracula are all great songs!!!!!!!!! thats practically the whole album, if it wasnt for pink cellphone there wouldnt be anything to skip on it. but thats just my opinion, maybe its because i like depressing music. and to add to that, the cover is one of my favorite pictures of all time and i wanna hang it somewhere in my apartment but cant find a decent sized jpg for it to blow it up (any suggestions?).  all in all, SNW FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nineteen]

I really don't know why a few people don't get SNW. I mean fair do's but I find it to be a very interesting in a kinda odd way. It's really emotive.

[snw9]

I asked Stef why they didnt play combat when I met him in 2007 and he said it was because Chino hadnt learnt his guitar parts yet which shows that despite writing the parts he wasnt overly interested at that time, Stef was actually quite scathing about Chino that whole conversation which showed how things were in the band during that period.

Deftones Interview by Hefe (from Romania)

this was the interview i mentioned earlier where chino said that they practiced combat and it didn't sound good enough or something