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Gore

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gwenudo

Quote from: sooniletugo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:52 AM
What is a deftones record though?  :P
Heavy, Aggressive, DARK, yet ever so gentle and beautiful .. Basically S/T lol
Was it like it seemed?...

sooniletugo

I feel ya. I was pleasantly surprised with how dark this was though, compared to what I was expecting. Definitely 'darker' than the last two albums at least although it all seems to be subjective.

B_S_79

A little late on this, but the chorus on P/T on Jimmy Kimmel was great. You hear way more Frank. The music sounded much better.

I've never been a fan of watching them on TV. The soundboard recordings never compare to when you're there, but damn, that chorus was huge.

pelican fly

Quote from: B_S_79 on Apr 14, 2016, 01:45 AM
A little late on this, but the chorus on P/T on Jimmy Kimmel was great. You hear way more Frank. The music sounded much better.

I've never been a fan of watching them on TV. The soundboard recordings never compare to when you're there, but damn, that chorus was huge.

They sounded awesome on both songs.

gwenudo

"My favorite song they play is guns razors and knives" .. Dont you mean Rocket Skates? "Which song is that?" - real convo i had with a "fan" back in 2012 when i saw them in Dallas


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Was it like it seemed?...

B_S_79

Quote from: pelican fly on Apr 14, 2016, 02:25 AM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Apr 14, 2016, 01:45 AM
A little late on this, but the chorus on P/T on Jimmy Kimmel was great. You hear way more Frank. The music sounded much better.

I've never been a fan of watching them on TV. The soundboard recordings never compare to when you're there, but damn, that chorus was huge.

They sounded awesome on both songs.

Looking forward to hearing more from this album live.

If they play GH at the Philly show I'll be satisfied.

Cullision

Anyone notice how much Chino sounds like Bjork on the song gore? It's exactly how she would sing the verses.

gwenudo

Quote from: Cullision on Apr 14, 2016, 02:32 AM
Anyone notice how much Chino sounds like Bjork on the song gore? It's exactly how she would sing the verses.

Was it like it seemed?...

pinata89

Quote from: Cullision on Apr 14, 2016, 02:32 AM
Anyone notice how much Chino sounds like Bjork on the song gore? It's exactly how she would sing the verses.
If you actually listen to Björk (as I do, huge fan), i hear the most Björk influence (vocally) on Pittura Infamante during the little gtr breakdown part. Stylistically, it's spot on

Inkblades

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 02:28 AM
"My favorite song they play is guns razors and knives" .. Dont you mean Rocket Skates? "Which song is that?" - real convo i had with a "fan" back in 2012 when i saw them in Dallas


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Doesn't even make sense. They obviously know the song, but they don't know the title? It's not like Deftones are played on the radio all the time, either. You'd know the song by either listening to Diamond Eyes or watching the music video. Maybe the person's friends played the song to them or some shit. I think people are just oblivious to pesky formalities like song titles.

Lol, I was at the Amoeba show talking to some dude about how much we liked Gore. Then when they started playing Rubicon, he looks at me confused and says "Which song is this?" I'll cut him some slack though, because the album did just come out. Maybe he hasn't been listening to it obsessively like the rest of us.

gwenudo

Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 14, 2016, 02:43 AM
Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 02:28 AM
"My favorite song they play is guns razors and knives" .. Dont you mean Rocket Skates? "Which song is that?" - real convo i had with a "fan" back in 2012 when i saw them in Dallas


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Doesn't even make sense. They obviously know the song, but they don't know the title? It's not like Deftones are played on the radio all the time, either. You'd know the song by either listening to Diamond Eyes or watching the music video. Maybe the person's friends played the song to them or some shit. I think people are just oblivious to pesky formalities like song titles.

Lol, I was at the Amoeba show talking to some dude about how much we liked Gore. Then when they started playing Rubicon, he looks at me confused and says "Which song is this?" I'll cut him some slack though, because the album did just come out. Maybe he hasn't been listening to it obsessively like the rest of us.
Theres alot of fans in mexico who actually do this. They get the titles wrong or dont know the titles at all, they just say what the chorus says and you know what it is lol
Was it like it seemed?...

DenakDW

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 02:46 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 14, 2016, 02:43 AM
Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 02:28 AM
"My favorite song they play is guns razors and knives" .. Dont you mean Rocket Skates? "Which song is that?" - real convo i had with a "fan" back in 2012 when i saw them in Dallas


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Doesn't even make sense. They obviously know the song, but they don't know the title? It's not like Deftones are played on the radio all the time, either. You'd know the song by either listening to Diamond Eyes or watching the music video. Maybe the person's friends played the song to them or some shit. I think people are just oblivious to pesky formalities like song titles.

Lol, I was at the Amoeba show talking to some dude about how much we liked Gore. Then when they started playing Rubicon, he looks at me confused and says "Which song is this?" I'll cut him some slack though, because the album did just come out. Maybe he hasn't been listening to it obsessively like the rest of us.
Theres alot of fans in mexico who actually do this. They get the titles wrong or dont know the titles at all, they just say what the chorus says and you know what it is lol

I'm Mexican... I can tell that's true! Nada más le washa washean en los coros:
Oraciones!!!! Triángulos!! Nunca serás libre!!
And all the days I've missed you 🍂

plagasx

Man...Chino sounded fantastic on Kimmel!

punkflop01

Man Acid Hologram - right from the first time I heard it is easily one of my all time favourite Deftones songs already. Those haunting verses, the chorus, the way it switches between light and dark, those effect towards the end that sounds a bit like maracas (reminds me of Beware) and the way it moves into Doomed User. Basically everything about it is just perfect.

el perro

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:41 AM
Quote from: sooniletugo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:39 AM
Sick of seeing comments from fans trashing the new album and following it up with "I can see why stephen carpenter wasn't happy with this album either." The media really blew the whole thing out of proportion, and people don't care enough to read beyond the headlines. Or maybe they did but just want to spin it their own way so they can say "Yeah, even Stephen agrees with me that this album sucks!" Was it all a publicity stunt by Deftones? Nah, I doubt it. But Steph is all over this album, and he clearly stated (in the same interview I think) that he was happy with the end result. If you just want to listen to Meshuggah, go listen to them. I don't care if people aren't feeling the new album, but so many of these comments are straight up bullshit, and they act like the band owes them. When it's the other way round if anything.

This doesn't apply to anyone here. Even those who aren't big on the new album have been decent and fair about it. I'm just seeing these same comments every time I look at Deftones posts on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc over the last few weeks.
I made a whole post about my feelings towards that. They took his words out of context. I will say this though, this album, i hear steph alot i really do and i love it. And i know steph likes the album yes i know that too, but in my opinion, this isnt a deftones record, its more of a chino moreno album. Thats just me though, love the music and i love what stephen put down

I hadn't listened to Quicksand before until someone on here said how much Gore resembles their music, and I can hear it now after listening to one of their albums. I'd say Gore is more Serjio's album than anyone's.

Jerry_Curls

Quote from: whitefur on Apr 13, 2016, 08:09 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Apr 13, 2016, 07:40 PMTrust me, every show I go to I'm yelling shit like "wake the fuck up!" To the crowd, but it seems like everyone is more concerned with their photos than jumping around. Sad, but true.

Curious to hear why you are concerned with what other people are doing and feel the need to tell them what to do?

Well, when the singer of the band says something similar (Amoeba show), then that's when I start to get hyped and I want people to get excited. I would look around and people aren't even head banging. It's weird. I want people to have a good time and when they aren't showing it, it gets me kind of nervous. I go to shows not just for the band, but for the experience, the vibes, the fans, seeing familiar faces. I could really care less because I'm still going to groove to the music and headband and scream as loud as I want, but don't come for me and get all annoyed if my arm touches your shoulder ... We're in the pit... GET fucking excited. I've been going to deftones shows since I was 10 (front row during White Pony tour... Glass jaw opening) and the energy was amazing. It was for years. I would see them years later during the S/T tour and people would be screaming and jumping up and down even at the bar. These days, you can hardly see the same shit going on.

So no, it doesn't concern me what they're doing, it's what they aren't doing that concerns me. I just want people to have fun feel alive.
..Yeah don't go there,

I let you get to me

yeah yeah.

sooniletugo

Well said. Thankfully the crowd has been wild at both Deftones shows I've attended in 2010 and 2013. I saw one of my other favourite bands a few months ago and everybody just stood still with a lot of camera phones held up throughout. It was so irritating. I still moved as much as I could but I was limited, the people were very nervous about it. It spoiled the concert a bit because the atmosphere in the 'pit' was totally dead. I mean there was loud energetic riffs being played and nobody was moving a muscle, wtf.

So yes, it does affect the concert experience when most of the crowd is static.

Far away

Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Apr 14, 2016, 07:45 AM
Quote from: whitefur on Apr 13, 2016, 08:09 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Apr 13, 2016, 07:40 PMTrust me, every show I go to I'm yelling shit like "wake the fuck up!" To the crowd, but it seems like everyone is more concerned with their photos than jumping around. Sad, but true.

Curious to hear why you are concerned with what other people are doing and feel the need to tell them what to do?

Well, when the singer of the band says something similar (Amoeba show), then that's when I start to get hyped and I want people to get excited. I would look around and people aren't even head banging. It's weird. I want people to have a good time and when they aren't showing it, it gets me kind of nervous. I go to shows not just for the band, but for the experience, the vibes, the fans, seeing familiar faces. I could really care less because I'm still going to groove to the music and headband and scream as loud as I want, but don't come for me and get all annoyed if my arm touches your shoulder ... We're in the pit... GET fucking excited. I've been going to deftones shows since I was 10 (front row during White Pony tour... Glass jaw opening) and the energy was amazing. It was for years. I would see them years later during the S/T tour and people would be screaming and jumping up and down even at the bar. These days, you can hardly see the same shit going on.

So no, it doesn't concern me what they're doing, it's what they aren't doing that concerns me. I just want people to have fun feel alive.

blame the technology.
Yeah, its good to have all these sources and new material basically everyday, but, IMO, this is killing the live shows experience. Ppl are more concerned about filming it to brag to their friends and/or post in social media than to actually enjoy what is in the front of their eyes. Go figure. Also I think all the security thing (no more crowd surfing, etc) and aging process might be doing it as well.

ANattyRat

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:41 AM
Quote from: sooniletugo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:39 AM
Sick of seeing comments from fans trashing the new album and following it up with "I can see why stephen carpenter wasn't happy with this album either." The media really blew the whole thing out of proportion, and people don't care enough to read beyond the headlines. Or maybe they did but just want to spin it their own way so they can say "Yeah, even Stephen agrees with me that this album sucks!" Was it all a publicity stunt by Deftones? Nah, I doubt it. But Steph is all over this album, and he clearly stated (in the same interview I think) that he was happy with the end result. If you just want to listen to Meshuggah, go listen to them. I don't care if people aren't feeling the new album, but so many of these comments are straight up bullshit, and they act like the band owes them. When it's the other way round if anything.

This doesn't apply to anyone here. Even those who aren't big on the new album have been decent and fair about it. I'm just seeing these same comments every time I look at Deftones posts on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc over the last few weeks.
I made a whole post about my feelings towards that. They took his words out of context. I will say this though, this album, i hear steph alot i really do and i love it. And i know steph likes the album yes i know that too, but in my opinion, this isnt a deftones record, its more of a chino moreno album. Thats just me though, love the music and i love what stephen put down

You can say that, but I hate when people act like it's his fault, like Chino is a dictator who drowned out Stef's ideas on this album. Like, Stef admitted he just wasn't excited enough to initiate any song ideas until late into the process, so the band had to come up with ideas without him since he wasn't doing it himself. We'd probably be waiting another good six months or something if they sat around and did nothing until Stef fully participated, you know? So if people think it's more of a Chino album, I can get that, but then you can't blame Chino or the other band for wanting to get the ball rolling until Stef caught up. Also I'd say Sergio had a hell of a lot more influence on the music than the other two albums, for sure.

And he did eventually, and he initiated some ideas, and put his stamp on ideas that the others came up with, and now we have Gore. Hopefully next time he'll be excited right away and have some awesome ideas. But if people think the only time Stef's ideas are there are if we hear songs like Meshuggah or Metallica or something, they're wrong. Like really, Stef could've come up with a super-heavy song on Koi No Yokan but instead wanted a song like Entombed. I think that says it all, haha.

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:55 AM
Quote from: sooniletugo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:52 AM
What is a deftones record though?  :P
Heavy, Aggressive, DARK, yet ever so gentle and beautiful .. Basically S/T lol

Agree with this, though I'd say darkness is subjective. I haven't felt any genuine darkness since the self-titled album. Even Saturday Night Wrist I don't feel has that vibe enough for it to describe the album. With Gore I definitely get that vibe, though not in the same raw, painful way as self-titled, more of an artistic darkness (though I'm sure there are authentic feelings behind it).

N0S3BLEED976

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:55 AM
Quote from: sooniletugo on Apr 14, 2016, 12:52 AM
What is a deftones record though?  :P
Heavy, Aggressive, DARK, yet ever so gentle and beautiful .. Basically S/T lol

Sorry, but this is bullshit. If you listen to Deftones for "the br00talz" and darkness, you listen to them for the wrong reasons. It's funny how people claim they're a dark and heavy as fuck band, when only one album of theirs really applied to that.