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thats not as bad as the vegatarian zombie in the day of the dead remake tough.

wow seriously? i knew there was a good reason for refusing to watch it.

I watched it, finally, and it wasn't about the vegetarian zombie, that was just an offhand comment made by one of the characters.  The guy was vegetarian before he was zombified, but his character was supposed to be the updated Bub character from the original, so he was only "friendly" because he retained some memories and mannerisms from when he was alive.  Bud in the remake = Bub in original.


yeah thank god i didn't see that either then. but wasn't it from the people who did the Dawn of the Dead remake? I enjoyed that one

It was not done by the same people.  Around this time period, after the Dawn remake, there were several movies that all jumped on the Romero bandwagon.  I read a few articles about it (had to hunt through my Fango/Rue Morgue archives) and it was meant to be an updated, action filled, reworking of the original film.  And the Dawn remake was awesome, even with the fast moving zombies.  Like Romero said, their ankles would snap if they ran, they're dead.


yeah it wasn't all that good. my biggest problem was the way the zombies moved. i don't mind the fast running zombies, but these were way to fast and pretty much had super powers, running along walls and jumping crazy high, shit like that.

They were ridiculously organized and fast in this one.  It was more like a Return of the Living Dead/28 Days Later/NotLD mix than a faithful Romero universe entry.  I thought it was more humorous than anything.  Some of the head popping scenes had me laughing my ass off.  It was fun to watch but not much for story and a bit too much CGI, yet again.


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bought 1984 few days ago, going to read it soon


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thats not as bad as the vegatarian zombie in the day of the dead remake tough.

wow seriously? i knew there was a good reason for refusing to watch it.

I watched it, finally, and it wasn't about the vegetarian zombie, that was just an offhand comment made by one of the characters.  The guy was vegetarian before he was zombified, but his character was supposed to be the updated Bub character from the original, so he was only "friendly" because he retained some memories and mannerisms from when he was alive.  Bud in the remake = Bub in original.


yeah thank god i didn't see that either then. but wasn't it from the people who did the Dawn of the Dead remake? I enjoyed that one

It was not done by the same people.  Around this time period, after the Dawn remake, there were several movies that all jumped on the Romero bandwagon.  I read a few articles about it (had to hunt through my Fango/Rue Morgue archives) and it was meant to be an updated, action filled, reworking of the original film.  And the Dawn remake was awesome, even with the fast moving zombies.  Like Romero said, their ankles would snap if they ran, they're dead.


yeah it wasn't all that good. my biggest problem was the way the zombies moved. i don't mind the fast running zombies, but these were way to fast and pretty much had super powers, running along walls and jumping crazy high, shit like that.

They were ridiculously organized and fast in this one.  It was more like a Return of the Living Dead/28 Days Later/NotLD mix than a faithful Romero universe entry.  I thought it was more humorous than anything.  Some of the head popping scenes had me laughing my ass off.  It was fun to watch but not much for story and a bit too much CGI, yet again.

yeah i knew he was the updated character bub, and that he had a thing for the main chick probably more or less the reason he was like that. i just thought it was gay, even in the original, to have one mysteriously act different. like in "land" the one gas station attendant who was smarter than the rest, i dunno i don't like that for some reason.

and i read an interview with romero where he finally came around and said 28 days later was an ok movie since he doens't consider them zombies, but still alive and just crazy from the rage virus. which i agree with its not really a zombie movie in my opinion. its a great fucking movie just not a zombie, dead eating the living movie.


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I've read where he said that before, and it's a hell of a movie, well both of them are.  It's similar to a zombie film, but you're right that it isn't exactly.  It's almost like Nightmare City, which was similar to a zombie film as well but had mutated, homicidal humans.  And I was always tore between liking the idea of the evolving zombie or thinking it defeated the purpose of having mindless, flesh eaters to begin with.  The whole idea really started in the original Dawn of the Dead when they were in the mall and the zombies were drawn there because they remembered it was part of their life.


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i really don't like the evolving zombie. espescially for romero, its rediculous for them to be fast cause there dead, but too think and remeber and get smarter is ok? i disagree.

and i've never seen that other movie but i love the "28" movies. one thing i really liked about the first one is that they do starve to death. and get weaker. again romero gets all pissy because it wouldn't be realistic for zombies to be fast but ignores other human biology that conflicts his zombies.

and going back to the book i definitly agree with where it said they would get weaker and weaker as they exerted them selves, since there mucles woulnd't be repairing them selves.

one question for you. has it ever been addressed in the movies about what happens to the things they eat? do they shit? or does their stomach expand and eventually burst? their dead and their organs and insides aren't working so i would imagine the latter but don't remember seeing it said in a movie.


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That's a good question.  I think it's been addressed in horror comedies, like when zombies look engorged or belch, I'd have to think of a movie but can't off the top of my head, but can't remember any other film, serious horror film, that has addressed this.  You'd think that the first wave would be fat or have busted stomachs since there would be more food around, eh?  The later ones, when most of the living have been killed or changed, would be thinner naturally since there would be less to eat.  Hmmm, good point.


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i'm currently reading crime and punishment by fyodor dostoevsky.

just finished reading the trial by franz kafka.

next on my list is slaughterhouse five by kurt vonnegut.


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i'm currently reading crime and punishment by fyodor dostoevsky.

That book really is great...  ^5 for you



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i'm personally enjoying it more than i expected to.

i always wanted to read it, but never got around to it. then i started with a little bit of intimidation.

turns out it's way easier to relate to and understand than you'd expect a novel written and set in the early 1900s in russia would be for a 24 year old american.


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Yes I know what you mean...
You can try other books from Dostoievsky , they're all great actually.

You can try Nicolas Gogol as well, pretty good too.



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The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time. Its a quick, easy read, yet captivating and evokes much perspective of an overly absorbant mind...specifically autism
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i picked up the brothers karamozov by dostoevsky the same day i got crime and punishment... but i've got so many things i want to read, i've got too many on the backburner.


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i picked up the brothers karamozov by dostoevsky the same day i got crime and punishment... but i've got so many things i want to read, i've got too many on the backburner.

this book rocks, i highly reccommend
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i picked up the brothers karamozov by dostoevsky the same day i got crime and punishment... but i've got so many things i want to read, i've got too many on the backburner.

this book rocks, i highly reccommend

Yeah, excellent book.


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dostoievsky kicks ass, yes yes...   :)



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to go with the zombie discussion,

the walking dead anyone? good stuff.


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finished Duma Key by Stephen King last night...the man has not lost his touch, excellent book
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