Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 01:31 AM

Quote from: punkflop01 on Apr 04, 2016, 02:40 PM
http://www.spin.com/2016/04/spin-interview-deftones-gore-new-album/

I read this earlier today. Lots of interesting tidbits to glean from it..

Not the least of which Chino claiming that the Eros stuff was a meandering, uninspired jam session that was still half a year (at least) from completion at the time Chi had his accident. In other words, it was a continuation of what many feel the SNW sessions were, except the band were on friendly terms again and actually all in the same room this time. It wasn't until the writing and recording of DE when he claims they got their groove back

Can't say I'm surprised to hear this. Eros never struck me as anything more than a half-completed album session/recovery phase the band were struggling with at the time the accident occurred.

Maybe, but I've loved pretty much all the stuff I've heard from it (Melanie, Smile, that Youtube jam). Also, Abe, Frank and, most importantly, Chi are all on record saying there's really great material on Eros.

i once had reliable mom/pop stores that would often break street date but they have all closed since. fucking sucks. i'd have to trek to the city to find the album

To borrow from the earlier Target plan...Someone could take an old Deftones CD with them, open the new album and put the old disk in the package.  Put the new CD in their pocket.  Go to the register to pay and say "Opps I already opened it." They pull the disk out and it says Deftones (Self Titled would work).  They tell you you can't buy it and you leave.  Play Gore the way home.

All this talk about this album being weird, experimental, unlike anything the band has ever done...would any of you safely assert that this album, years from now, will be looked back on as a blueprint for a new sound in modern-day hard rock? Kind of like the way people look at albums like SDRE's Diary, STT's Pony Express Record or MBV's Isn't Anything and say "Yep, there's definitely elements of the sound Deftones pioneered on their album Gore"

Or is it more a case of "It's a Deftones record, just a different-sounding kind of Deftones record"?

Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 01:43 AM
All this talk about this album being weird, experimental, unlike anything the band has ever done...would any of you safely assert that this album, years from now, will be looked back on as a blueprint for a new sound in modern-day hard rock? Kind of like the way people look at albums like SDRE's Diary, STT's Pony Express Record or MBV's Isn't Anything and say "Yep, there's definitely elements of the sound Deftones pioneered on their album Gore"

Or is it more a case of "It's a Deftones record, just a different-sounding kind of Deftones record"?

it's hard to say -- stuff like that is difficult to predict. it's an awesome thought though...we'll be all older and stuff reminiscing to our kids, saying...hey i remember we were so desperate to hear that thing...downloading these toss up links that could have been computer destroying viruses just to get a piece

No, IMHO. I really like it, but it's not going to influence other bands the way White Pony did.

Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 01:43 AM
All this talk about this album being weird, experimental, unlike anything the band has ever done...would any of you safely assert that this album, years from now, will be looked back on as a blueprint for a new sound in modern-day hard rock? Kind of like the way people look at albums like SDRE's Diary, STT's Pony Express Record or MBV's Isn't Anything and say "Yep, there's definitely elements of the sound Deftones pioneered on their album Gore"

Or is it more a case of "It's a Deftones record, just a different-sounding kind of Deftones record"?

Geometric Headdress = Afternoon With the Axolotls on speed

Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 01:43 AM
All this talk about this album being weird, experimental, unlike anything the band has ever done...would any of you safely assert that this album, years from now, will be looked back on as a blueprint for a new sound in modern-day hard rock? Kind of like the way people look at albums like SDRE's Diary, STT's Pony Express Record or MBV's Isn't Anything and say "Yep, there's definitely elements of the sound Deftones pioneered on their album Gore"

Or is it more a case of "It's a Deftones record, just a different-sounding kind of Deftones record"?

I'm thinking the latter

Well, then again, who the hell am I to say? Maybe it will influence bands in the future. I think I'm just hesitant to say it will pioneer anything because it has such a 90's alternative sound to me.

Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 05, 2016, 01:50 AM
Well, then again, who the hell am I to say? Maybe it will influence bands in the future. I think I'm just hesitant to say it will pioneer anything because it has such a 90's alternative sound to me.

you may be surprised. alot of these kids never heard of hum, failure and even fuckin faith no more (which i still hear signs of FNM in the deftones to this very day). deftones is bringing that sound to the forefront but once again as always in their own way. i feel this album has gotten the proper hype but maybe not the best press.  i can see bitchfork giving a back handed compliment to the album because they even won't be able to deny this album called "Gore" is some powerful shit. it will turn heads

Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Apr 05, 2016, 01:47 AM
downloading these toss up links that could have been computer destroying viruses just to get a piece

i.e. pretty much every Deftones album since WP 

Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 05, 2016, 01:40 AM
Maybe, but I've loved pretty much all the stuff I've heard from it (Melanie, Smile, that Youtube jam). Also, Abe, Frank and, most importantly, Chi are all on record saying there's really great material on Eros.

Chino obviously thinks its mediocre and Steph's probably like "it'd be fine of it had more heavy guitar on it..."

Quote from: 77years on Apr 05, 2016, 01:48 AM
Geometric Headdress = Afternoon With the Axolotls on speed

I thought everyone was saying GH was a weird experimental "WTF is this" track?

So it's a sonic rager, or...?

Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 01:59 AM

Quote from: 77years on Apr 05, 2016, 01:48 AM
Geometric Headdress = Afternoon With the Axolotls on speed

I thought everyone was saying GH was a weird experimental "WTF is this" track?

So it's a sonic rager, or...?

I'd call it more of a WTF is this track lol

Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 01:59 AM

Quote from: 77years on Apr 05, 2016, 01:48 AM
Geometric Headdress = Afternoon With the Axolotls on speed

I thought everyone was saying GH was a weird experimental "WTF is this" track?

So it's a sonic rager, or...?

Geo is basically 3 songs in one. Its fast, weird, and melodic.

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 05, 2016, 02:00 AM

Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 01:59 AM

Quote from: 77years on Apr 05, 2016, 01:48 AM
Geometric Headdress = Afternoon With the Axolotls on speed

I thought everyone was saying GH was a weird experimental "WTF is this" track?

So it's a sonic rager, or...?

Geo is basically 3 songs in one. Its fast, weird, and melodic.

Good way to describe it

Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 05, 2016, 01:50 AM
I think I'm just hesitant to say it will pioneer anything because it has such a 90's alternative sound to me.

Hmmm

You're definitely not the first to mention Gore having a 90s alternative sound, which I'm very keen to hear

So it's basically a case of if Deftones had made a record conglomerating all their 90s alternative influences? Some are saying 80s metal, others are saying 90s alternative, but those are two very different sounds and genres..

All this pondering just = holy fuck I can't wait to hear this thing in a few days 

Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 05, 2016, 02:02 AM

Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 05, 2016, 01:50 AM
I think I'm just hesitant to say it will pioneer anything because it has such a 90's alternative sound to me.

Hmmm

You're definitely not the first to mention Gore having a 90s alternative sound, which I'm very keen to hear

So it's basically a case of if Deftones had made a record conglomerating all their 90s alternative influences? Some are saying 80s metal, others are saying 90s alternative, but those are two very different sounds and genres..

All this pondering just = holy fuck I can't wait to hear this thing in a few days 

I can't wait for you to hear it. It's fantastic.

Quote from: SCUM on Apr 05, 2016, 01:54 AM

Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 05, 2016, 01:50 AM
Well, then again, who the hell am I to say? Maybe it will influence bands in the future. I think I'm just hesitant to say it will pioneer anything because it has such a 90's alternative sound to me.

you may be surprised. alot of these kids never heard of hum, failure and even fuckin faith no more (which i still hear signs of FNM in the deftones to this very day). deftones is bringing that sound to the forefront but once again as always in their own way. i feel this album has gotten the proper hype but maybe not the best press.  i can see bitchfork giving a back handed compliment to the album because they even won't be able to deny this album called "Gore" is some powerful shit. it will turn heads

True. And the Pitchfork review will be, err, interesting. The guy who has been giving middling reviews to Chino's side project releases is actually a big Deftones fan and seems to love KNY. I can't agree with him that KNY is better than classic Team Sleep songs performed live and Crosses, but hey, to each their own.

Quote from: gwenudo on Apr 05, 2016, 02:00 AM
Geo is basically 3 songs in one. Its fast, weird, and melodic.

And in only 3.5 minutes? This is going to really be something..