The 10th Deftones Studio Album Grief and Coping Support Group

[RaptureWS]

This was mentioned on Discord and I agree. Stef had a wry look on his face when asked about the snake thing. He knows and he has seen it, and is probably just under strict label orders to not say a damn word about the album other than "this year". Thank you for doing the Superchat to try to get us info. Much appreciated!

[Zabytoyee]

Have you heard the new track from Loathe yet? He just released

[RaptureWS]

Have you heard the new track from Loathe yet? He just released

That openiing riff is gnarly! Definition of stank face right there. Not Deftones related but we have little else to speak about.

[Dawnofwar2010]

Have you heard the new track from Loathe yet? He just released

HOLY FUCKING HELL, THIS IS BLESSING MY EARS, I LOVE IT, THANK YOU LOATHE THAT RIFF WAS FUCKING AWESOME, AND THE CLEAN PART oh my god.

[aurdreyen]

The band seem confident it's a good record, surely the wait will be worth it

2 more hours

[Inkblades]

Loathe will help hold me over. One of the few new Deftones-influenced bands I actually like.

[LG95]

I don't like that Loathe song at all. Why do none of these Deftones-inspired bands actually have the confidence to write an actual song? They're all throwing shit at a wall...here's a synth crescendo, here's a stank riff, here's an industrial bit, here's a melancholy clean vocal section, here's a jazz bit, here's a Blade Runner synth bit.

Sleep Token are the worst for it because their genre smashing is so turgid and mawkish and dreary and contrived, but some of the others aren't much better.

Two Way Mirror stood out because it was an actual song with an actual hook.

[Draken]

They sound pretty good.
But I just don't get into the Deftones inspired stuff. I'm happy for people who enjoy what they like though.
Nothing scratches the itch for me unless it's Deftones. It's really annoying for me because I WANT to have something to fill the void.

[plagasx]

I don't like that Loathe song at all. Why do none of these Deftones-inspired bands actually have the confidence to write an actual song? They're all throwing shit at a wall...here's a synth crescendo, here's a stank riff, here's an industrial bit, here's a melancholy clean vocal section, here's a jazz bit, here's a Blade Runner synth bit.

Sleep Token are the worst for it because their genre smashing is so turgid and mawkish and dreary and contrived, but some of the others aren't much better.

Two Way Mirror stood out because it was an actual song with an actual hook.

I agree. Most of their stuff just sounds like generic noise to me. Their most Deftones sounding songs are genuinely GREAT though. ie:Two Way Mirror, Sad Cartoon and Is It Really You. Just wish they were more consistent.

[Dawnofwar2010]

Honestly I don't hear deftones at all in there music and always found that a stupid take, I love them, I like the screams I love everything about them, even the chill songs but I just don't hear thr deftones people are talking about, like all this "deftones sounding" music is just shoegaze that sounds nothing like thr "inspiration" surr there's entombed and like ending of error but that's not even really shoegaze. Sorry if this is like random it makes sense to me

[Inkblades]

A lot of them actually don't sound like Deftones (people act like Thornhill are the second coming of Deftones lmao, don't get that at all) but tell me the :57 second mark isn't a dead ringer for Chino:

It's an imitation for sure, but a pretty damn impressive one IMO.

[TwixPheonix]

Ayyy White Hot, one of my favourite songs from them. I agree with dawn of war on most accounts, like I hear a loose connection to deftones but they have their own sound.

Hot take though, I don't really love it when they do songs that are full on softer, except two-way mirror. I like their heavier side.

[nicklav]

Two Way Mirror is a Minerva tribute.

[Draken]

[Draken]

Doesn't sound like that was what delayed it, but who knows...
I hope he takes care of himself, reading that sorta scared me, probably just exhausted after all the recording/touring.

If Steph is calling it "amazing" that makes me feel very optimistic about the new album.

[RaptureWS]

A lot of them actually don't sound like Deftones (people act like Thornhill are the second coming of Deftones lmao, don't get that at all) but tell me the :57 second mark isn't a dead ringer for Chino:

It's an imitation for sure, but a pretty damn impressive one IMO.

"White Hot" is my favorite song to come out of this entire subset of bands with heavy Deftones inspiration. Such a great track!

I think Thornhill does a good job at sounding distinct enough from Deftones, most of the time. First album was more metalcore, 2nd reminded me a lot of Stabbing Westward actually. Newest album has some heavily inspired Deftones tracks I quite like, but also feels like generic nu-metal at times as well. Basically I *love* Loathe, I *like* Thornhill but most other Deftones-esque bands bore me to tears.

I also agree with LG95 about Sleep Token. I mean, I guess I understand the appeal. People act like they are so revolutionary though. Their music sounds so ham-fisted to me. I am really happy for the people that enjoy it though. Maybe I am just "old man screaming at the kids on the lawn" these days.

Finally and most important: Steph. So glad he doing better now. We all knew something was up with him but glad to know he has decided to make changes. Aging sucks. One Love everyone

[Dawnofwar2010]

Sleep token fucking sucks
Pop music with drop -M tuning breakdowns. Now loathe on the other hand top 3 favorite
1 deftones
2 pantera
3 loathe
Now look I appreciate sleep token and what they've done for people and happy they make others happy, but holy shit the music is ass, it's like Taylor swift and Sam Smith had a baby and threw in cannibal corpse as the step dad, and it sounds like the singer sounds like he's having a stroke every time he sings

No hate, just truth from me 

[LG95]

I don't usually put too much on any band's descriptions of or expressed feelings about their new album. But Stef's not one to overhype something, so when he says, 'The whole record, in total, is amazing,' I trust that at the very least he is really happy with it. And that has me quietly excited.

[cammycarpenter]

I have a prediction that at least 1/3 of the new tones album will be "softer" songs  like Sextape, cherry waves, beauty school, etc. 

[TwixPheonix]

I'd like that. Ohms didn't have enough of it but then again it wasn't that kind of album.