You must not be talking about Chuck, 4sure, who eventually left the band, but rather about Shaun; he had already worked with Deftones on the SNW album. Chino doesn't seem to like the album, not that I'm implying it has anything to do with Shaun, but Chino always refers to the album as a dark time in their history. In any case, Crosses, they have now signed with Warner Records. This marks the band's first album with a major label. It's not worse than the collaboration Chino did with Trippie Redd, with all that satanic imagery, trying to appeal to the new generation as cool
