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Deftones Tour: Live guide + video footage

Started by Vesanic, Jul 26, 2012, 06:31 PM

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kurtone

Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 22, 2013, 06:01 PM
Vesanic hasnt just asked Chino, he was alone with him, Frank and Abe and made his point. Talked about the repitioning setlists and asked them to please please, for one time do it and then Chino just said. We'll play it. I think he will keep his word!

What was said about the repetitive set lists?

sing blue silver

But... It's such an easy song to play. They should be able to get that down during soundcheck.

DeftonesNZ

Quote from: sing blue silver on Feb 23, 2013, 02:23 AM
But... It's such an easy song to play. They should be able to get that down during soundcheck.
Yeah the riffs themselves are but the order is probably what's confusing them it's an 8 minute long song so knowing when to transition can be tricky but im sure it will all come back to them pretty quick.

Jerry_Curls

They've been playing music for 25 years..I'm sure they know how to play their own song. If not, they should just quit.
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DeftonesNZ

Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Feb 23, 2013, 03:33 AM
They've been playing music for 25 years..I'm sure they know how to play their own song. If not, they should just quit.
Are you a musician? Yeah they could play them but not to the standard they want to meet it's unreasonable to expect them to tightly play all 80+ of their songs by memory especially since Sergio hasn't even been there for the whole time

slyartwork

Quote from: kurtone on Feb 23, 2013, 01:53 AM
Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 22, 2013, 06:01 PM
Vesanic hasnt just asked Chino, he was alone with him, Frank and Abe and made his point. Talked about the repitioning setlists and asked them to please please, for one time do it and then Chino just said. We'll play it. I think he will keep his word!

What was said about the repetitive set lists?

Ves has to tell us. Only talked to him for about 5 minutes. He said something about it but don't know how they responded.
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shoop

should have just asked for Combat again lol

slyartwork

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UH OHHH... Vesanic's story on facebook:

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DeftonesNZ

That's a sad situation but I can't just believe it's Chino being a dick there's just so many reasons why they might not have been able to play it ,it's pretty difficult to ask a band hours before a gig to play a song they probably haven't played in over 10 years might happen at the upcoming gigs though, tonight was probably just too short notice making it logistically impossible too many things like lights and having the right gear to get sorted.

slyartwork

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Feb 23, 2013, 10:57 AM
That's a sad situation but I can't just believe it's Chino being a dick there's just so many reasons why they might not have been able to play it ,it's pretty difficult to ask a band hours before a gig to play a song they probably haven't played in over 10 years might happen at the upcoming gigs though, tonight was probably just too short notice making it logistically impossible too many things like lights and having the right gear to get sorted.

Amen
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Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 23, 2013, 10:49 AMUH OHHH... Vesanic's story on facebook:

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Wow.
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Longstem

Somebody smart once told me : "Never meet your idols"
To this day I believe very strong in this and the above experience from Ves confirms this.

Ves... don't take it personally. Deftones meet a thousands of fans a year. We each have their love for them, our personal story we want to share with them and they can't be in to all this.
Deftones is a unpolitical band, they communicate very little and when they do this  is very carefully, they don't support any social movement.
They sincerly don't want to be taken very seriously.. they just want to play their music and entertain people. Don't make more of it.



nineteen

#1273
Well, he was probably set on playing it personally but things could have got in the way, like other band members disagreeing or like what was said above by DeftonesNZ. We just don't know.

And yes, of course Chino has changed and of course the fans have changed. It happens to almost every band and is out of their control. The music they write is from different inspirations and experiences along with age and ability and is like any artist making their work. The difference in fans is just down to new people checking them out which certainly isn't a bad thing. We were all new fans once.

But anyway, this certainly wouldn't take away the feeling of being let-down by them not playing a song that was held in such high regard (especially after it was agreed).







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If last night was his last ever Deftones show, imagine if they played it tonight!

That would be fucking hilarious. Haha.
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Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 23, 2013, 10:49 AMUH OHHH... Vesanic's story on facebook:

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Oh my God, a human being has changed over time with age and life experience??? Kill that bastard, how dare his onstage act and his fans change. Jeez, he's not fucked up on coke and getting drunk on stage, being all dark and moody and changing the songs every night, and ppl are whining about it? Yeah, it sucks Chino lied, but as he said, it isnt the first time. Maybe there's a good reason, maybe there's no reason, but they've been playing repetitive setlists for a few yrs now, did anyone expect them to start switching it up frm this point on just because Vesanic shared part of his life with them? And the fans being different, that's hardly their fault. They're making music they wanna make, it's different than it used to be in a lotta ways, so some of their older fans arent gonna like it, and some new fans are gonna love it. It is what it is. Sounds to me like he wants a time machine to live in one specific era, but that's too bad, because time moves forward, and so do ppl, as individuals, as musicians, etc. They're not music-making machines, they have feelings and thoughts and opinions, they dont stay in the same place.

normsteez

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Quote from: slyartwork on Feb 23, 2013, 10:49 AMUH OHHH... Vesanic's story on facebook:

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I understand that they might need to practice it before they play. I know that I won't be making long drives anymore to see the band unless they start changing setlist. Sure I will go see them if they play in my city, but the days of taking long trips and spending mad money to see them are done for me.
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UrZ*

#1279
Gotta agree on the setlist being lame and the performance from Chino is sometimes pretty bad (Feiticeira high notes, Entombed chorus....)

Cant be mad for them not playing Pink Maggit.. I was in on the whole Amsterdam thing.. We all tweeted and RTed stuff about setlists.. But it didn't really go well for them now did it? I mean Combat and Boys Republic were awesome for us diehard fans.. but the other fans don't really know the songs that well.. and for the band themselves? Well (Stef) didn't look too happy about it..

So why would Stef, someone who supposedly wants them to be as perfect as possible, agree to play a song they haven't ever fully played and 13 years ago when they did only played it partially?

Sergio doesn't know the song, does Frank have the effects, does everyone know his parts? How about lights? Changing a setlist to fit the song in? Do they know the structure, riffs, lyrics??

I just read this and it was kind of pretentious to assume that they would, just because one random fan asks...

Ask Sergio to hum the song, maybe he doesn't even know it! ;-)

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