yeah, there is quite a bit of good values and wisdom in the christian bible. too bad most christians either ignore it or take it so literally that it all loses its true meaning. my mom is uber christian as well, and spends a shitload of time studying the bible, but she tends to ignore a lot of the messages, or so it would seem by the way she lives her life. she's definitely not as bad as most, but every time i go to church with her i hear all these great values and wonder if she actually listens. maybe she should try coffee and bailey's beforehand too.