Gore

[nicklav]

What do you think about the new in-your-face style of singing that Chino tries on Gore? It appears in the beginning of Geometric Headdress (Hey princess, lay back in your chair / Show us your geometry, see if I stare), at the end of (L)MIRL (Right now / Bear witness / This rebirth / Right now), at the end of Prayers/Triangles (I will never walk this street again).
I always skip it, it's cringeworthy.

I'm with you. It totally takes me out of the songs.

[ANattyRat]

What do you think about the new in-your-face style of singing that Chino tries on Gore? It appears in the beginning of Geometric Headdress (Hey princess, lay back in your chair / Show us your geometry, see if I stare), at the end of (L)MIRL (Right now / Bear witness / This rebirth / Right now), at the end of Prayers/Triangles (I will never walk this street again).
I always skip it, it's cringeworthy.

I'm not really a fan of it, but to be fair, he's been doing that for a while. A lot of his screaming is less raw-sounding and more of a scream-shout, if that makes sense. Like Leathers. So I'm used to it, made my peace with it. I like it in Geometric Headdress though, for some reason I think it fits.

[illthrowROCKS@U]

I agree that the songs from Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan are far more "radio friendly," in the sense that they are more accessible to a wider, more "musically centrist," audience than their previous material.

But I will say. I haven't heard Deftones on the radio as much as I have with the Gore tracks since Minerva. Minerva was on the radio like that was its job. I hear PB and PT on the radio, not as often as I remember Minerva, but still fairly often. I don't remember hearing anything from Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan actually ON the radio, despite it's more "radio friendly" sound.

[pinata89]

The only songs that have been in regular rotation on rock stations (around where I live, at least) are "Change (In the House of Flies)" and "Tempest," with the occasional "Swerve City."

I agree that even though their sound has become more radio-friendly since DE, they still haven't broken the wall of being a radio sensation. But, in the same token, radio is not really a good medium to gauge popularity in mainstream music anymore. Radio is beginning to die just as quickly as the physical CD/Vinyl.


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[Freedomsoldier17]

Looked at one of my city's popular rock radio stations playlists(KROQ, LA area), and not one Deftones play over the last week. There's KYSR 98.7 too but their playlist page isn't working

First time I heard Deftones was change through one of these stations. it was a unique experience

[rainnyx4]

Again, just because a band is getting airplay, doesn't mean they've made a conscious decision to "sell out" and make "radio friendly" music. You can make "catchy" music (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean, I mean that is a fairly subjective term; what is catchy to me, is not necessarily catchy to someone else) with "conventional" song structures (this is also a dumb statement, because virtually every band will on occasion write verse, chorus, verse songs, and this band has been writing songs with similar formats since day 1) without being a "radio friendly, sell out" band.

This band has an incredible amount of "underground" fanbase. That is to say, despite the fact that they don't make music that is easily accessible to the "mainstream", due to consistently making high quality music, they have over the years, amassed a dedicated and expanded following that forces commercial outlets to acknowledge their presence. This is synonymous with bands like Tool and Radiohead, who also clearly don't make "radio friendly" music either but are still acknowledged by commercial outlets due to their rabid fanbase.

[E-Money]

I just really hate that filter or effect they use on his screams on Gore. Sounds terrible to me..

[Cullision]

What do you think about the new in-your-face style of singing that Chino tries on Gore? It appears in the beginning of Geometric Headdress (Hey princess, lay back in your chair / Show us your geometry, see if I stare), at the end of (L)MIRL (Right now / Bear witness / This rebirth / Right now), at the end of Prayers/Triangles (I will never walk this street again).
I always skip it, it's cringeworthy.

I agree it's just plain ugly, that's my problem with this album. So many parts are just actually ugly sounding. In the past they have had abrasive sounds but it was balanced and had context. It sounds like he's shouting into a megaphone.

[snw9]

Nick Raskulinecz became deftones into a radio friendly band.

fuck him.

Oh yeah, KNY was so radio friendly. I totally remember hearing Deftones on the radio constantly back then. And all those 14 year old girls raving about Rosemary, man that was so annoying.

The idea that Deftones ever have been or will be "radio friendly" (whatever that means, since I don't think anyone really "listens to the radio" anymore in the classic sense of the phrase) is retarded.

I wouldn't blame the producer here entirely, don't forget the record label has a say as well in this and I think the publicity is good for Deftones in terms of more fans, higher concert sales. Just my thoughts.

[Inkblades]

Nick Raskulinecz became deftones into a radio friendly band.

fuck him.

Remember that Diamond Eyes was written soon after Chi's accident. It's clear they wanted to create an album that sounded hopeful and positive, so you can't really assign the "conceived commerciality" entirely to Raskulinincez, no matter what you may think of him as a producer.

[tower]

Gore is good, although I'm slightly divided on it. As others have pointed out, it's the sound quality/mix. I actually think all the songs are solid and that's the only drawback. Even live I felt the gore songs had lower sound quality. I was at the Philly show and acid hologram sounded muddled up compared to tempest which they killed.

LMIRL takes a jarring turn from the amazing beginning but I'm getting used to it as with all Deftones albums

[LG95]

The transitioning between songs on Gore is absolutely brilliant. Really neat ideas that make the album flow so well.

[defTHE1s]

Don't know if it has been noticed before but, Deftones have been teasing us with some Gore stuff since 2015. More specific, check this vid at the end of Headup and see whatyou hear:

DEFTONES (Santiago Gets Louder 2015) Audio
https://youtu.be/YTpmUaqgwJQ?t=1h15m45s

And don't know if it was done before that year or until the new shows they did beginning this year but used as an intro.

[FlyingPiranha]

Gotta say, Gore didn't do much for me when it first dropped in April, but after seeing some of the songs live last week I've found a whole new appreciation for it. I don't think I was in the right "mood" for a new Deftones album at the time, and it just never really clicked with me or made me want to go back for more listens, but now it's all I want to hear. I still wish the production wasn't so muddy sounding, but man, Hearts/Wires, Rubicon, Phantom Bride, and (L)MIRL are all top Deftones songs for me right now.

[NYRexall]

Ballz, check yo email man.

i replied to you cause i was locked out of PM. I cant do shit and feel bad for having everyone think i could pull it off

edit: apparently Hokagay and his fellow creeps over at Jane's ANR.org are still upset about me trolling their site 4 years ago and are harrassing some guy with the email i posted here

get a life already, ladies

[cvthedrv]

Nick Raskulinecz became deftones into a radio friendly band.

fuck him.

[ANattyRat]

You can't blame production for radio-friendly music. Clean, polished sounding heavy metal isn't going to be played next to Justin Bieber. If you don't like what he did with the music, fine, but don't act like he forced the band to make their version of a pop album. Diamond Eyes came after Chi's accident and all of them said during interviews that they wanted to make positive music and wanted to enjoy themselves and be in a good mindset. They pulled themselves from a dark place and found a way to create music from that and chose to do it with more optimistic-sounding music, and it allowed them to carry on making music. If you're going to cry about that because it wasn't produced by Terry Date, or because it makes you feel like Deftones 'sold out', that's your own narrow-mindedness, no-one else's fault.

[TheyCallMeP]

After listening multiple times to Gore, the song that grew on me the most was Rubicon. It was never a bad song to me, but it's to the point now where I feel like it's one of the highlights of the entire album. I love the spaced out guitar in the chorus with the random high notes during the "face the lights" section. Some reviews have referred to this song having space rock characteristics, what do you all think? Would you want Deftones to explore a more space rock sound on the next album?

[Cullision]

The first time I listened to rubicon my first thought was "this is some power rangers shit" lol wasn't into it at all. It grew on me a bit but I'm still not a huge fan, it has some really great elements but some that really turn me off as well.

[pelican fly]

Acid Hologram & Geometric Headdress are my fav tracks from this album.
All the rest flow so well ( Pittura till the end of LMIRL is like one song to me ) though and that's why i love this album more than the last 3.  Yea the mix sucks but I still dig it.