Gore

[Seven]

I was disappointed with the song. Thought there was nothing special about it.

[ANattyRat]

Geometric Headdress is overrated ? I feel like I'm the only one here who even mentions it...


Instrumentals are all over the place, then the chorus kicks in and it's fucking beautiful....

I fully agree with you, but I've been praising Geometric Headdress since day one, so you're not the only one. I don't know how so many people dislike it so much, it's magnificent. Lyrically one of my favourite ever songs from the band, too. I remember reading an interview and Chino said that, unlike how he usually writes, he came up with the title first, and then wrote the lyrics based on the title. I wouldn't want all his songs to be like that because he has his own style, but I think in this case it worked brilliantly.

Rubicon? That's overrated. An excellent song, but jeez, every single person was obsessed with it like it was the best song that has ever existed.

[Red Pill]

Chino said that, unlike how he usually writes, he came up with the title first, and then wrote the lyrics based on the title. I wouldn't want all his songs to be like that

I feel the same way, Geometric is weak.
Chino should keep in mind his unique and vulgar songwriting. Otherwise the lack of conviction behind them will make the lyrics feel stale.

[illthrowROCKS@U]

Ya'll are nuts. LMIRL is one of the best tracks on Gore, and GH is definitely up there too.

[The Prodigy]

Opinions... Weak tracks.

[Penicks]

gh is fucking shit

[E-Money]

I think the drums in GH are some of the most pathetic recorded/produced/mixed that I've ever heard. Abe plays so solid all over this record and the drums just sound like shit.

[LG95]

GH is good but Matt Hyde can get to fuck.

[Reichward]

New DAC received today, the bass in GH seems more present and precise than before (although the overwhelming bass of my headphones is starting to annoy me). This track's got some hidden beauty to it. Not a long-time favourite though.

Still a sucker for Acid Hologram however.


Also I agree Matt Hyde is a bigger flaw than any of the music on this record. Almost makes you miss Nick Raskulinecz setting all the knobs and buttons at max.

[O]

I was disappointed with the song. Thought there was nothing special about it.

[defTHE1s]

I think the drums in GORE are some of the most pathetic recorded/produced/mixed that I've ever heard. Abe plays so solid all over this record and the drums just sound like shit.

Fixed.

[stephtones]

I think the drums in GORE are some of the most pathetic recorded/produced/mixed that I've ever heard. Abe plays so solid all over this record and the drums just sound like shit.

Fixed.

Have to agree with this. No idea why they stopped working with Terry Date. Gore is a split for me between really hating Matt Hyde's production and finding the songs to be mostly ok (some of them make me cringe slightly) but not better than what's come before. In terms of live shows to me this means that better songs are being cut for newer material that's just average at best and feels kind of lazy.. just my opinion.

[float here 4ever]

Geometric Headdress is overrated ? I feel like I'm the only one here who even mentions it...


Instrumentals are all over the place, then the chorus kicks in and it's fucking beautiful....

Agree, still my favourite on the album

[The Prodigy]

I think the drums in GORE are some of the most pathetic recorded/produced/mixed that I've ever heard. Abe plays so solid all over this record and the drums just sound like shit.

Fixed.

Gore is a split for me between really hating Matt Hyde's production and finding the songs to be mostly ok (some of them make me cringe slightly) but not better than what's come before. In terms of live shows to me this means that better songs are being cut for newer material that's just average at best

Good point.

[Inkblades]

New DAC received today, the bass in GH seems more present and precise than before (although the overwhelming bass of my headphones is starting to annoy me). This track's got some hidden beauty to it. Not a long-time favourite though.

Still a sucker for Acid Hologram however.


Also I agree Matt Hyde is a bigger flaw than any of the music on this record. Almost makes you miss Nick Raskulinecz setting all the knobs and buttons at max.

Yeah, I can't say I'm itching for them to get back into the studio with Matt Hyde. Kind of a shame that the album with some of the best songwriting of the Sergio era also has the worst production.

[O]

Chino said that, unlike how he usually writes, he came up with the title first, and then wrote the lyrics based on the title. I wouldn't want all his songs to be like that

I feel the same way, Geometric is weak.
Chino should keep in mind his unique and vulgar songwriting. Otherwise the lack of conviction behind them will make the lyrics feel stale.

Well said!

[Inkblades]

Interesting how much of a love it or hate it song Geo is on here. One of my favorites on the album, personally.

[people are people]

Then Stef is vocal about his input or lack thereof and how his band has moved away from him, hinting that dynamic chemistry that has helped create this special sound between members may have run its course. I always saw the response to this as damage control and once I heard the album felt that was exactly that. This was furthered by news of delayed release dates and issues with mixing, allegedly bringing back Terry Date to mix only to discard it and go with something in between.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVsw6MefOQ&t

Clip from recent interview with Stef where he mentions having "no one to count on for practically anything" as a support system mixed with "making the most of it" when recording the album gave me bad vibes. I tend to agree with his "please, let's not be in a rush" attitude to them putting out another Deftones record. Gore is easily my least favorite album they've released.

Exactly... Gore 5/10

Good stuff...

2 overrated songs, in my opinion!

[ANattyRat]

New DAC received today, the bass in GH seems more present and precise than before (although the overwhelming bass of my headphones is starting to annoy me). This track's got some hidden beauty to it. Not a long-time favourite though.

Still a sucker for Acid Hologram however.


Also I agree Matt Hyde is a bigger flaw than any of the music on this record. Almost makes you miss Nick Raskulinecz setting all the knobs and buttons at max.

Yeah, I can't say I'm itching for them to get back into the studio with Matt Hyde. Kind of a shame that the album with some of the best songwriting of the Sergio era also has the worst production.

They didn't seem happy with it either, so I highly doubt they'll be working with him again, to be honest.

[LG95]

Yeah Abe was complaining about the guitar being too loud in the mix not that long after it came out.

I have full trust in the band to go in whatever direction they want to musically - they've earned it by getting to this stage of their career and not having a single mediocre album in their back catalogue - but Terry Date HAS to produce the next record. He just has to.