SL drama. Who'd have thought.

It's true though. Around the time I joined the board I don't think most people would have cared and would have just listened to it.

Quote from: sober_sane on Jun 24, 2026, 09:46 PM

Quote from: RikshawHoward on Jun 24, 2026, 09:24 PMor about the leak

Aren't we allowed even to talk about it? Why does this thread even exist then?

It's like this everywhere right now. Album finally leaks and instead of discussing the material everyone is trying to deduce how it leaked or arguing the ethics of listening vs not listening.

I meant specifically the spreadsheet that has popped up a few times, including on a website. Talk about it if you want, I don't care.

Quote from: RikshawHoward on Jun 24, 2026, 09:24 PMor about the leak

Aren't we allowed even to talk about it? Why does this thread even exist then?

Quote from: tongues_of_flame on Jun 24, 2026, 09:19 PM

Quote from: RikshawHoward on Jun 24, 2026, 06:59 PMIt's not about charity, it's about doing the right thing. They clearly do not want this material out and everyone knows it. What sort of a fan would spit in the face of that, especially knowing the circumstances around the album?

chino doesn't want the material out, and i respect that given the circumstances. however, i wouldn't say that's true of every member. i haven't and will likely never listen to eros. i think it's a damn shame how it made it to the internet and i got a bad vibe from that guy the second i noticed him on here.

I get what you are saying, but even in those interviews Abe says it needs a lot of work before it would be released officially. Clearly that work has not happened.

It's got nothing to do with "how the internet works" The band doesn't want the album to get out. If you have it, listen to it, I don't care, but it's weird that people keep posting links to the leak, or about the leak IN THIS THREAD when it is clear the band doesn't want that. FFS it's the first post in this thread. This isn't private music leaking early, this is a personal record that has some of the last work of a dear friend who tragically passed. Goodness gracious.

Quote from: RikshawHoward on Jun 24, 2026, 06:59 PMIt's not about charity, it's about doing the right thing. They clearly do not want this material out and everyone knows it. What sort of a fan would spit in the face of that, especially knowing the circumstances around the album?

chino doesn't want the material out, and i respect that given the circumstances. however, i wouldn't say that's true of every member. i haven't and will likely never listen to eros. i think it's a damn shame how it made it to the internet and i got a bad vibe from that guy the second i noticed him on here.

if the forum decides on a charity to donate to in cheng's name, i'd happily donate. like B_S_79 said,

Quote from: B_S_79 on Jun 24, 2026, 07:29 PMDonating to a charity and sending money to the band are two completely different fucking things.

Quote from: RxQueenChaos on Jun 24, 2026, 07:59 PMDude I don't understand why you are attempting to make this so controversial? No one is twisting your arm to donate it was an amazing idea for those of us that have been following for decades and were disrupted by the news of his death not just the album. Its only natural we are going to feel a little bit of a slight to our moral compass due to the circumstances surrounding

If you dont want to donate then dont but the way you are going about stating your opinion is going to cause some problems and rub ALOT of people here the wrong way.

So no. You dont have to donate, but what you can do is take that extremely insensitive energy elsewhere my guy.

Otherwise, be prepared for the backlash. No one here will feel sorry or take your side when it comes

Unless this is rage bait... either way

No.

Not sure if you're replying to me or the other guy. I was just stating the obvious about how the internet works. Never said donating was a bad idea.

Quote from: sober_sane on Jun 24, 2026, 07:03 PM

Quote from: RikshawHoward on Jun 24, 2026, 06:59 PMit's about doing the right thing. They clearly do not want this material out and everyone knows it

It is out, period. Nothing they can do about it, like it or not.

Quote from: RikshawHoward on Jun 24, 2026, 06:59 PMWhat sort of a fan would spit in the face of that, especially knowing the circumstances around the album?

Am I a bad guy for appreciating a pretty damn good job they did on it despite the circumstances? Should I also stop listening to SNW because Chino thinks it's a shitty album?

Dude I don't understand why you are attempting to make this so controversial? No one is twisting your arm to donate it was an amazing idea for those of us that have been following for decades and were disrupted by the news of his death not just the album. Its only natural we are going to feel a little bit of a slight to our moral compass due to the circumstances surrounding

If you dont want to donate then dont but the way you are going about stating your opinion is going to cause some problems and rub ALOT of people here the wrong way.

So no. You dont have to donate, but what you can do is take that extremely insensitive energy elsewhere my guy.

Otherwise, be prepared for the backlash. No one here will feel sorry or take your side when it comes

Unless this is rage bait... either way

No.

Quote from: Spruance on Jun 24, 2026, 06:44 PMThe band is raking in MILLIONS and MILLIONS these last few years after the tik tok brigade and the beer and the clothing line and the festival etc. I doubt they need charity over a few 18 year old demos leaking lmao

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Quote from: Spruance on Jun 24, 2026, 06:44 PMThe band is raking in MILLIONS and MILLIONS these last few years after the tik tok brigade and the beer and the clothing line and the festival etc. I doubt they need charity over a few 18 year old demos leaking lmao

You posted the same thing in Reddit. Donating to a charity and sending money to the band are two completely different fucking things.